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Michael Wann | MFTIC Lost Episode: Your Handbook For The Apocalypse · My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think some crazy podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Mystic Mark, presenting to you an archive lost episode that was only published on the Patreon for whatever reason, the video of the Patreon episode is up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think some crazy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, Mystic Mark and returning to the show is my friend who's been making what seems like a monthly appearance lately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very grateful for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike won.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Susquan Alchemist himself, back from another journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: International journey this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Mike could to see you again in a full Dolby digital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mystic Mark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say about this when you're given that introduction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be, and I'm watching, you know, on the Zoom interface, like my face next to your face and you're kind of talking about, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the journey which we've had like in these shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I would love to see a side by side of like whatever that first conversation was that we recorded the first time we did a show together because I can see how much your background has changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can see how much you have changed like in an outer appearance, both like you physically and then you're setting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just cool to like notice the
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[SPEAKER_01]: the progression, I guess you could say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I can't even look at myself from when I started there was totally different person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had hair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm losing my hair, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now maybe that's because of the podcast, but no, yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, when you first came on like, you had this like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least visually, this, on the edge, this sort of like, there was a sharpness to you with like the hair and like there's like this, this kind of like, there was like this vibrancy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And compared to where you are now, it's like everything is like mellowed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's been, it's been sanded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you've got like wood, if you're like working on something with wood or like marble, like you go through this process of where things are kind of like rough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it starts to like come into focus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe even more so like a leather jacket, anything that Pantino's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it goes through that process of life and things start to look cool in a way that only experience does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I asked you this question when we start recording.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it look like this strange pixelated vision of me because of my camera?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what does that look like to someone we're kind of playing with that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I could say the same thing about you right now because the progression of this journey we're on and I think this is going to tie into our overall conversation is like we've started this show as your handbook for the apocalypse, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're only 21, I think, 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the full title?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could have you remember handbook for the apocalypse?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your handbook for the apocalypse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was always done kind of tongue and cheeky about this knowing that like, you know, whatever the apocalypse is, it's coming around the corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you actually looked around and what is being presented, particularly through like media stories, like this is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, like look at how we've, you know, you me and the collective, like audience who listens, like I encourage them to do the same thing with their own lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's like how much you've changed in this last like four or five years and you've probably pantinaed in a way as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can see clearly with Mark, but I'm not suggesting Mark's only mother fucker who's gone through this process.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I am suggesting is this is how this process went through Mark and it's brought this other thing out and here we are now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're in this place, like if you really look around it, there are two things, like it's like friggin' insane out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or at least the stories, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you couple with it, I think most people would also look at, or at least the people who I interact with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm imagining that's his audience as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if they actually looked at what they've become over these past four or five years,
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[SPEAKER_01]: where things have taken root.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it may not be on the surface pretty, but I guarantee it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like your first thing you said to me is like you made fun of yourself about your hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think your hair makes you look like established in a way what you didn't before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what a lot of people probably are experiencing is they're looking at the last five years and they're looking at something where they think they got beaten up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, look at this black eye and it's like, no, that's actually like, how you've established yourself because we're in the apocalypse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like what they told you it would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and to comment on your pixelated self again, I'm getting the the image in my mind of a scene from Star Wars where like a character is talking through one of those holographic projectors to like
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[SPEAKER_00]: to tell an infant vital information I need about the rebel lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take it completely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what's so friggin' funny about this whole sort of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you could step back and just kind of look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is exactly that storyline that archetype as a story presented in the Star Wars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, that's kind of like you could see that lens what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a perfect segue if you will because I want to talk about this trip, which I just returned from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to look at this trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like, this is meant to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is, this is the, this is the feel-good apocalypse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what I mean by that is like, we approach the fact that, like, that's where each of us are and like, like, it's an adventure, like somewhere sometime, like someone's watching this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they are, but it's a valid of a perspective as any perspective that's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Though I would say it's really like it has many, many benefits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I look at my adventures as like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: from this sort of grandiose lens, but at the same time immensely grounded in reality, like in the experience I'm having, but like from looking at it from really far out in this interesting, like this is a crazy ass movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what's really happening right now, as you said, like I'm translate, I'm transferring information from somewhere else, like Star Wars S. And I'm going to tell you the story about Ecuador, and this is going to be what I'm hoping will like maybe like paint an image of the texture of where or how I'm transferring from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, come January, this past January, I'm down in St. Petersburg, Florida, and I'm like, I don't know what my next step is gonna be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like an intense time down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm literally in the underworld, like I realized that like all this underworld, shit was happening, I'm like, okay, I'm ready for this, I'm ready for this to be done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had absolutely like no plans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like I didn't have anything lined up and I didn't have like access to like resources where I could do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was just like, but I'm ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So shortly like seven days after that internal recognition, I get this text from a friend I haven't heard from for nine months and he sent the text in such a way that if you would have sent it in any other way, I probably wouldn't have responded immediately, but I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had me hooked and so I respond immediately and within like 15 minutes of the conversation he presents to me my next step which is an all-expense paid trip down to Ecuador and then how sitting for the people you're going to go down to Ecuador with for through July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, and in the perfect location, so I'm like, game on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I didn't write this script, but this script is unfolding through me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really know anything other than the fact that this is like perfect timing and it's my job to figure this thing out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do it in the most natural way and I don't do it in a way to freak out everyone who's around me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what's going on in my own in her lens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why I'm going down to Ecuador is because these people, it's a couple, and they've got three dogs, and they love these dogs like their children, and they just bought property down there, and they're going through, they're like, all right, this is our next step we're going down to Ecuador.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're bringing our puppies, our dogs, who we love, like the same way people who don't have, who have children, like the same, that same degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here was the rub.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had three dogs and you have to have one human being to every dog if you're gonna fly international.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they needed a third body to carry the dog down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what happened to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my cell art trip was from Washington, D.C. at one in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got these dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're about to say, they're Chihuahuas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I typically, like I know a lot about dogs, I've done a lot of dog hair, I'm good with dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the little dogs are not my strong suit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm good with big dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have a real negative connotation because they're really hippy, like they're loud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just never calm down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, I need to apply an effort to hold my own balance around them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, if they weren't yippin' all the time,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, that's what I'm thinking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I meet these two wild wilds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the sweetest two wild wild I've ever met.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was more like a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just like held stayed in your arm, and it was long-haired, and like I'm a dog guy, as I told you, I'm smitten with this dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so here I am, I'm laughing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, like already this is gonna be good, because I thought it was gonna be bad, cause it was two wild wilds, but it's the world's greatest two wild wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they funnel us into this airplane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like stuck with like the dog is under the seat and it's like the up against a window and it's at one in the morning and this great big person is next to me we're not speaking the same language and they fall asleep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes sense because it's one in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, kind of like stuck in the most uncomfortable position in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you know, I'm just like kind of like trying to hold that balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the trip down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually we lay in and we're in Panama.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just relieved to be out of the plane and like moving around and like, we're out of the country and this thing is happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I sent you a picture of what I saw there, but I see this individual walking through the Panama Airport, easily six feet tall, built like me, like really tall and thin, and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't tell, like, by looking at the face, the gender, like, it could have been male, it could have been female, it could have been, you know, something else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you couldn't even tell, like, even more yearly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not exaggerating where I say this is just, like, literally, like, if there was going to be some sort of, like, like, hybrid between a human and an extra terrestrial race, like, this is what it may look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't just, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The face, it was, they were dressed in this impeccable, impeccable Catholic garb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was obvious it was Catholic because you could see the, the, the iconology on it, but it was like unbelievably well made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could just see it and they were like the fancy boots and like just like the tunic and the colors and the emblems on it and like this, this, this being just walked around
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just walked around the airport, like they owned it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I don't know what this is, but I know this is something, so I take a picture of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I sent to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I go and, you know, I was curious, I was like, well, obviously, I want to know what this is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was asking the people I was traveling with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, well, you know, you can upload images to Google, it does the Google search.
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[SPEAKER_01]: an image search.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like, all right, I've never done that before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So go and I load up into Google.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this order?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is obviously something and Google spits back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say that this is a human being who's like in some sort of theatrical costume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the answer, like something along those lines from Google.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was quite obvious that it wasn't someone in costume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was really a person who carried a lot of authority and they were sumped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the conclusion is either,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Google doesn't know, however their database works for regular folks like you and me asking simplistic questions and they're like, this is what you're allowed to answer or what and this is what you're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's either that or it knows exactly what it is and it just can't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was like, I was like, I know we're further along the lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm asking around like some people once I got into Ecuador.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one person, they spoke with like a very, very high degree of confidence, like I don't know if they tell them if they're accurate or not, but this is what they said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, there isn't, there's like this really underground order within the Catholic church.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's lots underground orders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that makes sense if you've done any research in like how the Vatican works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's filled with like all sorts of secret banking and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, of course, they're underground orders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and this is an underground order which is still connected to the times of the Inquisition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so whatever the Inquisition was, even if it was or was in whatever that story is that type of what they like both in terms of the seriousness, like we're going to torture you with the craziest torture ways ever, and then they're also trying to eradicate a certain sort of
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least the way the story is usually told, spiritual capability of a human being outside of the Vatican.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The church is trying to eliminate all their competition for people to have direct connection with source.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's usually how it's described.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I was told was, this order still exists and you usually see them in South America because in South America,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a higher concentration of people within the Vatican Church who still have this capability and yet they're not torturing like they used to, but they're using intimidation and stuff like that, it's the same order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the point I'm trying to get at is like, I bumped up, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like reality like I think that that felt accurate whether it's completely the way they described it the feeling I had inside when when I saw this individual is like whoever the fuck they are they mean business and they know that nothing can stop them like meaning they've got green lights to do whatever they want to do I could tell that by the way they were just moving around and talking to people in the airport but they didn't fly private so they can't be that high up
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the flip side, when I was leaving Ecuador, while I was in Ecuador, there was a story that was released in international story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it said that the United States government, the specials, one of the branches of special forces, had done, had a,
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[SPEAKER_01]: could done an operation with the Ecuadorian military to fight narco terrorism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of similar to some of the story lines of what would go on in Venezuela, but it's different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't quite get the same level of international attention because of other stories that are happening in the news right now, but it was an international story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so basically what I was saying was that the U.S. Special Forces is down and working with Ecuador, and it was while I was down there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And where they were was exactly where I was, like in the general sort of place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we were leaving, so I stated this farm, which was, I don't know, it was like a two-hour car ride from the airport, which we flew into, as we were driving back to the airport.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were put over by one of these special forces groups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty men, all in camouflage, all with like automatic weapons and multiple multiple clips around their vest, face with masks, helmets on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that they were the Ecuadorian special forces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were part of that because they wore a patch on their uniform, which indicated that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they surrounded us, and they were screaming at us in Spanish, known in the car could speak Spanish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like literally there were 30 bodies around the car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel really threatened, like I didn't think anything was going to happen, but I did recognize that this is unusual, it's uncommon for just a regular person, at least in the United States, to bump up against like special forces, like in operation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I rolled down the window and it's a guy like 12 inches from me and we're just staring each other in the eye Like it wasn't contentious, but we're just like staring each other like right in the eye And then all of a sudden I realized what they were saying and I just started to say no weapons No weapons and as soon as I said no weapons, they're like I free to go like we didn't have to get out of the car But for like five minutes who is immensely immensely tense
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the point I'm trying to make with you and there was a lot a lot that happened in between was like whatever was occurring, like whatever was occurring in my regular life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, I have to go and I'm going to help someone dog, dog transport and I'm going to house it for him because I live this nomadic weird lifestyle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also like not just in this like made-up sort of sense like I'm really bumping up against when this trip down to the equator during the equinox like the dude who's like really into the heavens right you know he happens to go down to the Ecuador at the equinox which is when the sun goes over the equator like you know who else would like find that like interesting other than someone who thinks like me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was encapsulated by these two very objective touches of the underworld of the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it is from that, that's where I'm operating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not like part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there wasn't anything more than just that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just coincidental, nothing else happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a touch to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a level of reality where that touch is material.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is from that level of reality that I pass back to everyone else who, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wants to have another perspective of what they're experiencing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this increased awareness and this narrative that
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[SPEAKER_00]: seems to reflect what's going on in the greater reality, but it's funny the Star Wars comment and then you have a guy in the airport who looks like he could be a Sith Order or something not to obsess over the Star Wars analogy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was exactly that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think about that as an archetype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that concept behind like military and spiritual and like have an order no one else really knows about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, that's that idea holds an archetype and suppose you insert that idea or that archetype in what you see day to day when you go to the 711.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a possibility mark that I just have such a creative imagination, and that's how this realm works, whatever this realm may be, is that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It values what I'm calling creative imagination.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who goes and they presses upon the fabric of reality will reality begins to fold to your impression because you can hold a structure in such a way that then life forms around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's how our reality could work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that would mean like I literally made that happen just because like I'm afraid and weirdo who like really focuses and is like really effective on what's called the imaginary plane that then reality just like kind of like pops that up or like I'm really into this sort of stuff and then I find where that exists already in reality like I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you start looking for it, you find it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That sort of thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it does feel like, you know, the narrative that you're building is a positive one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one that even though there's these characters in it that don't necessarily represent positive structures in our reality, you weren't necessarily negatively affected by your interactions with with those two events.
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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly and like or maybe more so than negatively like it wasn't uncomfortable, but I brushed upon that and I think that's where I wanted to go with the reason I wanted to paint a picture like that as as detailed as I did to tell that story is that could be kind of like metaphorical
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: with like brushing up against all of these boogie men that are being projected across at the very least you're the display of your
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: your phone.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So because we don't know they're really happening, you just know that these are the stories that are tied to emotion.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And like we know that everything is emotionally manipulated, that goes through particularly the anything which is owned and operated by the mainstream.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The mainstream distribution alternative above the board of information.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all meant to be manipulative and some of it may not even be happening.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that like make you create that like all of those your fair questions?
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the answer to that and anyone who says they do know the answer to it like you know the either haven't thought enough about it to realize they don't or they're full in themselves.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't know like this is what it means to be an experiment like you're figuring out for yourself.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, reminding me of something I was listening to today where they're describing the internet.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a shadow gate documentaries what they were talking about, and they're describing the internet as, you know, putting this programming in everyone's hands, and everyone's going to be affected by it, and it's just a degree to which they want to use you that will, you know, cause.
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: the degree to which you're affected by this and up to con of really the way they described as everyone's a targeted individual, it's just a different degrees.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% 100% like as soon as someone just stops worrying about like privacy, at least the fear of it goes away.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I put a lot of energy around this, or I put some energy at least into this kind of arena of thought.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And would always like really captured my interest, my curiosity, like I trust my curiosity, usually what I'm curious in, there's like something deeper to it.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And these stories came out 2013 was like maybe the first time it became like kind of publicly talked about.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the Pentagon's simulation model quantum computer of the world.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm talking about?
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were saying like as far back as 2012 that the Department of Defense had a model which had like a high tech like AI quantum computer.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now imagine trying to understand that in 2012, like in 2012 mine, like your understanding of what like AI was is different than what people think about it now.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I tell the story, keep in mind, like this is what it was first introduced into the collective mind.
29:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But they say, was that the Pentagon had this model, this database, which has what, for every human being, they have a reflection of them in this simulator, and that human being, which is tied like through your, whatever their ID tracking system would be, like at the very least, like a social security number, then fed through it, like everything, which is like government data about you, like that would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like your W2s and all that sort of stuff, coupled with all of the internet stuff, which was known about you, would feed a model so that then human beings would act basically the way you would act in these different scenarios.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were saying this 13 years ago that this is what
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: If that's accurate, like, who knows if that's accurate?
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I just know that that was a story and I know I've thought a lot about that, like, what the fuck does that even mean?
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna go back to the whole thing of the strange things that happened when my trip to Ecuador was, world, the world has gotten weirder since then.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And it would be unclear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we, like, is this what it looks like when the government creates, like, they've already told you, like, 15 years ago, that they've created some sort of a AI thing where everything is replicated, and they've got all this other sort of stuff, and you've, we've always surrounded it in an electromagnetic field, like, is this what it looks like when they actually bridge like computer technology and, like, organic living?
31:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did I see the special forces for the same reason in my life, my living experience, the same reason that I'd get an ad on YouTube, which is based upon like something I've done, you know, is it the same mechanism?
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's kind of where we are right now, like you're someone's being honest like, so the only thing you can say for certain is that we're here and you can begin to see and recognize what's happening.
32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd hope not.
32:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, to some degree, that sounds great, but to another degree, that's very frightening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, why would it matter if it's greater frightening
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like here, you're left with a quandary, you're left with a quandary look that one are you going to look through it with a lens of like, what I prefer, not prefer, you know, greater, like, oh, unfortunate, as opposed to like, is this happening or is this not happening?
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, there's no way to really, like,
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: all we can say for certain is like this is where we are like this is what I meant in the beginning when I was talking about like the apocalypse is here.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we talked about this in the beginning of the first times when we began making shows, was this idea of this coming apocalypse.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm suggesting that whatever the apocalypse or whatever that is, like not only has that happened, how we got here is not going to be clear.
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what I mean by that is you could probably come up with stories that given enough like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wait to the story and imagination that becomes real no matter what.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing that you can say for certain is like you're here and it's probably not so bad.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like and what I mean by that saying like the worst part is like oh my god is this going to happen.
33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like well it's happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not so bad.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you do now?
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: What are our next steps?
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I say that for myself like individually, and I encourage each person to think about that individually, but then maybe even like, you know, I don't know what collectively, I don't want to, but like, how does that, how does it relate to other people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like that.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's inspiring a lot of personal thoughts that I'd rather not share, but I'm just thinking about being present and thinking about the future and I don't think you can think about the future.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can think about really any more than six months.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If you free or so, that's about, like, like, let's be honest.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is shifted in the regular world, everything is shifting.
34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's shifting fast.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And those who are still thinking about the future in the same way they were before things began to become quite evident that everything's shifting.
34:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a,
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: that's only going to go to disappointment, do more destruction.
35:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you can't, like, it no longer makes sense.
35:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, my video grainyness with, like, the modern day.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't quite line up.
35:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing you can do is realize, like, all right, well, I don't know what's gonna happen.
35:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And things don't change so fast, so they haven't changed so fast, yet that in six months, that six months is like a lot's gonna happen in six months.
35:40
[SPEAKER_01]: and even if it does it like that's part of what I was saying when I was talking about you and Mark you're missing the picture like you have pantinaed part of what I was suggesting was
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are capable of actually looking at yourself with fresh eyes right now, Mark, you would see how frigging awesome it looks.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to go and be able to do that, and then if you could have the self-awareness then say, did I realize I was becoming this awesome as I was becoming this awesome?
36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But probably not because you were probably more aware of all of just like the surviving like the like just life's beatings sort of stuff like that's what the last five years for everyone has been relative to themselves.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And so there with the point I'm trying to make is if you look at where you arrive now you probably didn't realize that.
36:36
[SPEAKER_01]: what it took to get here and here's pretty awesome like whatever a person finds themselves a human being finds them at self at at this moment like okay that's what that's what's brought you to right now i'm gonna suggest that there's going to be more of that and right now you're gonna look your future self right you know in six months and six week and six years looking back to this moment to be like if they only knew if i only knew
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's the case, the only thing you really can focus upon is the next six months.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, you can't let go completely yet of everything beyond that.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But as you begin to like focus on the next six months, this funny thing happens, Mark, you become present.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, President is also kind of relative.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're just not part of the trickery of what holds the old in place is that people are like, they're always envisioning the future.
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what could happen?
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: When you free yourself from that, well, then some other things have space in order to come, but at the very least, you free yourself from all of that sort of worry.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm going to suggest that like a six months, a six month interval of just like kind of like okay this is what I'm working with and like I'm going to see again what do things look like in six months.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So what would that be it's so probably right when fall and winter is starting to come in so like okay where am I where it's what's the state of the world where have I shifted where have I stayed rooted.
38:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a really good way to approach it.
38:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And in my current situation, that, yeah, there's a little bit of relief and thinking, thinking in those terms.
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, yeah, it's interesting the state of the world.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like lately,
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Recycling, upcycling, trying to deal with that constant stream of pollution that we're bringing to the planet has become my latest interest and in a way I feel like it is a response to.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: this apocalypse and seeing how the world is changing so much, you know, going back to conversations we've had in the past few months about this where it's like, you know, reclaiming old things and again, trying to reduce waste in this modern age seems to be imperative.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like anything else is like is like guilt accepted guilt from from like a society that's blaming you for shit you didn't create.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you have the awareness to recognize like like take care of what you can take care.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I should
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And the coolest thing is, is why they, like, archetypically, like the whole idea of, like, putting new life into old stuff.
39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's the, that's, I think that's the, like the, the highest badge of honor, a person who is like, in still with some degree of connection within society.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you walk that through, like, that's so much friggin' fun, I love to,
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I find so let me take a step back before I go forward.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: The upcycling culture which includes the thrifting world, I'm going to suggest that one of the ways in which magic happens, in whatever this realm is, things that can't be explained, like they're certain archetypes within our culture where that is allowed to still exist or where it still exists no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Use bookstores,
40:46
[SPEAKER_01]: thrift stores and then like pop up markets like that antique market which we're going to do together.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like these are like straight up magic places and the more you can integrate ones experience with it, like the more you're like touching into that random excitement of what can be.
41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the most fun thing, and I'm always immensely when I talk about you, Pantine, and I'm talking about the stuff you're creating and making.
41:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and I should say it's not like just crap that I'm upcycling it is valuable stuff, you know, but yeah, there's so much waste.
41:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously stuff that you sift through to find the good stuff, but yeah, no, I'm not some kind of martyr just taking on all this stuff.
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It does feel like that sometimes though with the amount of clothes I've pulled in, I'm hoarding them a little bit.
41:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
41:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Be on the lookout folks for new shirts on the merch store because I got a ton of blank shirts that I need to print stuff on and I have some designs ready to go, but you said doing the market together.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: What's your idea for For coming to the market?
42:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you're gonna visit.
42:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you did you want to sit with some stuff?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm open to the possibility.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I were going to go and it would be like two to three items, like literally two to three items, not like 20 versions of two to three items, like just two to three items.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they would be very thoughtful.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then I'd suggest you get there early in the week and, you know, we'll see, that's what I was thinking like to go on the Tuesday as opposed to the weekend.
42:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then as a, you know, shopper, you'll be able to see everything before it gets picked through, you know, that's like the best first dibs kind of days Tuesday, but
42:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, it's funny because we would talk about these kind of concepts for years on the podcast, and now I feel like I kind of found a zone in area where this is actually taking place, you know, like people trading like that conversation we had a couple months ago or last year.
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Market, what was it?
43:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a market.
43:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a music festival type of thing and you were like you should definitely consider coming to one of these like this is your vibe like get out here and you know set up a tent and set up a podcast tent or something right so I don't know that I'll do that, but I definitely would like to while you're there we'll record a podcast in person and I'm hoping other characters turn up that we can record with as well, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: my expectation, you know, however it's met doesn't matter, but like I'm coming into the understanding that, you know, there's, there's still a lot of space between now and that, but if this materializes, this will be immensely like something significant will come from it, like what significant is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: but I'll be looking for that and that will include people who are met, contacts that are made, you know, it could be anything.
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's why I mean, like these events they invite, they invite magic and magic is like that's, you know, one definition or at least one of the definitions I'm using it is like an unexpected, unexpected results that are positive and pleasing.
44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I, um, I was amazed.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, not to dwell on.
44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the audience that isn't local to the East Coast and won't be going and taking doesn't care much, but I think the overall concept that you just touched on previously about, you know, upcycling is super important.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,
45:10
[SPEAKER_00]: In this time, when things are becoming more and more expensive, why not learn how to repurpose old things and bring one up?
45:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in this time.
45:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
45:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, particularly funny about that.
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like, it feels like,
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever heard like the phrase, a old soul, this person's an old soul?
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of times when that's used, like who's hand and glove, is that the person's ass is saying something like, would you anticipate those words to come from someone much much older than they are?
45:56
[SPEAKER_00]: and like you sounded like you could be someone's grandfather like in these times, like, well, you know, I said to some extent, I was raised by my grandparents, so it is evident.
46:08
[SPEAKER_00]: People always love me.
46:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll open, open the door for them, pick them up if they fall.
46:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I told you that story, so I'm an old lady, fall in front of the bank and I help her help
46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ever think about yourself as the superhero in Netflix like a multi-dimensional Netflix show which people are watching in those terms?
46:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe when I was in my really 20's sure, but no, not anymore.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so you've seen Seinfeld, right?
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, signed failed like the setup, like on the regular setup for a regular person who watches it, it was, this is a show about nothing, and they're introducing this idea that even shit about nothing is immensely entertaining, to like people who want to watch it.
47:04
[SPEAKER_01]: all right.
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's true.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to go and take like if you could imagine for a moment that like sign fell George Lane and and Kramer are like real individuals somewhere and they're really living like they have no idea like all these people here in our dimension are watching them in loving them.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So you could just flip that script a little bit, like not all the time, but sometimes it's kind of good to do.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And realize like, there are people somewhere, and you could even be part of them, like there's somewhere on the other side of like whether you would have called the firmmen to the sleep or the dream, like somewhere wherever that other place is, they're literally watching me.
47:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the main, I'm the, there's a show called Mystic Mark.
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the number one show in like some,
47:53
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many planets that are out there.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the number one show somewhere and they're loving it.
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So that being said, Mark, you are the superhero and they're the certain members.
48:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how people watch shows and they talk about certain episodes.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, don't you love that episode when this happened?
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like those iconic episodes which people love.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And so those are true for the people who watch your life story, your video.
48:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, they like the story of when they, when, when you threw the brick in the back of the speeding off vehicle, like that was part of this year or like that was a big story of the brick.
48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It does exactly, there was brick throwing and you lived it.
48:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're also the guy who picks up the old ladies who fall down.
48:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was a very, very special episode.
48:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're watching this, sir.
48:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like sometimes I am as well.
48:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, yeah, and recent events have shown me also that I need to think and communicate before I act on my emotions.
49:00
[SPEAKER_00]: In those moments, yeah, you do get a breakthrough through your window.
49:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes metaphorically speaking.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get a metaphorical brick thrown through your window recently?
49:14
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not, not, not, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't think maybe to that severity, I think there's other metaphors that could work, but to certain extent, yeah, and it's nothing I want to make public, but I definitely, I'm definitely, yeah, reconsidering how I act and think in the world,
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Funny how life will make you do that sometimes.
49:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and people who you care about will make you do that.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that's important to have people you care about around you.
49:54
[UNKNOWN]: So
49:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you wouldn't find out the things that are important to you.
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, it's a group effort, right?
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but on that note, where do we go next with what Chad plans to talk about?
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, I feel like I took it into a different direction.
50:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what I was what I'm interested in, or where I think that we can talk about some things,
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: is just a grounding awareness that there's a lot of change happening right now and it's going to continue to tap like and some of this is going to be uncomfortable but for the most part
50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: become less attached to that which is changing the end result, maybe exactly what someone is always wanted.
51:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it will not be what you think it's going to be.
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be a whole lot better.
51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I think that's kind of this overlining to a lot of what we talk about with sync or mysticism and, you know, I think that the misunderstanding of that is trying to create your future, you know, the true understanding of that is trying to live in your present, you know?
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's exactly what we talked about with the six months, like in a very practical sense.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is more than just the time store philosophy.
51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: This is if one chooses to, if one, if someone is really looking around,
51:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a variety of individuals, like keep on taking your step back and we're gonna go and move forward.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a variety of individuals out there.
52:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And they can look at what's happening in the world and they can have a variety of responses to it.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it is just complete, like, you know,
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: just giving up on it, like not caring anymore.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And some is just like maybe even embracing, embracing.
52:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, this is what's coming.
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though I know it's like probably going to end up shitty, it's not the best thing.
52:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do it anyway.
52:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a practical example of that is like, you know, people who took that vaccine trial shots.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like now it's becoming very, very,
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, can I say, I want to spend a moment on this because I think it's, this is a really, really good example to talk to like realize how the dreaming approach meets like real world stuff so the, the COVID vaccine right.
53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: that was when it was first coming out, there were like three basic camps.
53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There was like one camp, which was like absolutely not.
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Another camp, absolutely yes, and then this other camp is like, well, I probably would say no, but I'm going to do it anyway because I have no choice, and you know, at the end of the day, I trust the system.
53:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But nowadays, it's, you know, the information is coming out that I think the last thing I saw was from the
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Executive Chairman of the Pennsylvania Department of Funeral Directors, they're seeing one out of every three corpses their bodies are filled with this white fibrous growth that they have not seen prior to two years ago.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy literally linked it to the guy who's describing it, he linked it to the vaccine.
54:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's all the other kind of secondary evidence like all the young people who are having heart attacks and stuff like that.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So the point I'm trying to make is like the scare tactic which was like everyone's going to drop over dead immediately, which is what a lot of people were thinking who are like very anti it.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that hasn't happened either.
54:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is like a little bit of an oversell so that like what actually is happening is easy to overlook or maybe to be seen as like maybe not as much, but regardless, this is where we are.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is where it gets really interesting.
54:35
[SPEAKER_01]: There are probably a whole bunch of people who might be coming to this awareness, like people who may be taking a shot and are now thinking like, I wish I didn't take that shot, I felt coerced to take that shot or I was coerced to take that shot, whatever it would be.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: There are people who are probably thinking about that right now or maybe even thinking about that as it relates to someone else.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: who they care about, who did take a shot.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is such a wide spread of possibilities if someone took shots.
55:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Based upon the manufacturer, and then all the different manufacturers were also running placebo, like just straight up saline solution in some of the vials.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's like really like a chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a shredigers, cats, chance for people right now who've taken a shot and they're like thinking in their mind all the stuff like what could have happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like oh my goodness, is this like was it a mistake?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I going to die?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or am I going to have white fibers throughout my body?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's
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[SPEAKER_01]: real likelihood that there's a possibility that's real that there is a real possibility that they never received anything that would cause that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we're in this really, really interesting place for anyone who's caught up in that shot debacle of how to like approach and think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that is really where we are right now because as you and I talked about a little bit earlier,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way to know what this thing is, and it really does a matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you found out this was a simulation tomorrow, like this is a simulation, like, what would you do different?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how would you simulate differently?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like, what are those things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you're fucked no matter what.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're fucked, like, you're not gonna know if it's a simulation or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then too, like, let's say that you could figure it out, like, what would you do different?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that topic, that whole topic has really become a strange to me in so many ways because yeah, didn't really, I didn't see anything really come of it other than everybody was, you know, forced to live under these extreme circumstances and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all you can do, all we can do for certain is know that we're here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what here is, you could just say I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we don't know for certain what the relationship is between like thought, imagination, expectation, and then the reality that unfolds, because it could be very possible that the only reason that a person is having those thoughts anyway is because that's the reality that's going to unfold and that's why they're thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, that's a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make it argument that that's as accurate as anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the one thing we know is that we can have greater awareness of what we can control, which is some degree of our conscious thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could at least get stop ourselves from being lost in them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we could realize that most of the stuff that the system is always worked upon is worry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: worry about the future, worry worry worry worry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all the stuff you're supposed to be worried about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is your living in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it really is always six months away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're always telling you something else is six months away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Though it is getting a little bit trickier other things are popping up as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And each of us has a different like load which we carry,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a mainstream narrative will I carry, like that's a fair question for each person to finish, or a fair statement, because not everyone can carry the same load.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think part of, you know, whatever called me to do this podcast is very similar to whatever called me to get into all these markets and sort of reselling stuff and, you know, how many times did I talk about wanting a van and, you know, you just kind of come together and
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, comes together, comes to death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does come together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is part of what you're describing is what someone could build a very, very strong foundation of faith upon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the reason why I can have faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why I can trust in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why I can trust that there's certain things that are out of my hands is because I've seen all the stuff firsthand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that was really what I want to talk about because there's, you know, what's ever going to happen is going to happen, it's, you know, it's what's going to happen is going to happen and they've been trying to scare us all the time, so like, you know, 90% of the stuff they try to scare people with, like, never happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if something does happen, it's usually something you're not expecting, and you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to meet it, and you'll probably, it'll bring you someplace in a way which you probably wouldn't have gotten there without the event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I hope it gets me to a place where I can afford $4 a gallon of gas, hopefully no more than that, but yeah, that's definitely been the biggest change I've noticed recently is, oh yeah, that's going to have changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully that no matter what the price of gas is, it will never stop you from going to where you need to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is what this had like to wrap up this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anyone like for all of those listeners who've listened long enough or listened to this point, that's this is what the reward is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They should put on their calendars that they come out to Massachusetts Mark for when we're gonna do the antique market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come by do your thing like, you know, stop by say hello to us, but there's something of I'm sensing that we can create something of great magic at the antique market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what it's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know that
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can make it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll put the dates in the website in the episode description for people who are interested in can make it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd love to see anybody there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a big endeavor to go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if people are going there, I hope they're not going there solely to see us, you know, be prepared to find some cool stuff, but maybe they'll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they should be going there for this reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going there to open themselves up to an experience our life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: right so so you're fair what you're saying right there mark is you're like hey it's not my responsibility to show you good time but this is what we're doing right now is we're saying that there's gonna be something in the air yeah no it'll be a great time I feel free to say hi if you do run into me but I'll tell you what good luck find in me there's a lot of tables there's a lot of tens there's a lot of fields uh I know Mike and I will be in touch but you know get in touch on Instagram
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[SPEAKER_01]: so that so the gauntlet has been thrown, can they find it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you want to think of it, they're for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, so this is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's someone who hears this and like if there's like something that's ringing inside of them and they're like, huh, that sounds kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my suggestion is this is, that would be like a, like a sign or a symbol that this is a calling for something that is going to be coming in your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what you don't want to do is like limit it to like what I'm saying like okay I'm going to go there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to find out some information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The expectation is I'm going to go on a journey And this journey will have an effect in my life in a way I can't imagine it could be obvious It won't be obvious either way I am going and I'm meeting life with this openness to allow life meet to bring me to where I need to go
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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise that life will be different afterwards than it was then before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a great place to to leave it for now, Mike.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully we'll have you back on soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If not, we'll see you in May and with that folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go and check out Mike's YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go on Alchemy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the links are on his link tree in the YouTube description and until next episode, I'm going to immerse yourself in the moment wherever you are in the now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.