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Bigfoots Shot During Fugitive Manhunt & Seaway Valley Bigfoot with Dean Gleason · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. Welcome into
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  Speaker 2: On the Hunt tonight, where we are going on the
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  Speaker 2: hunt with a longtime Bigfoot field researcher out of New York.
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  Speaker 2: We have from Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research, by the way, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Dean Gleason is with us tonight. And you guys are
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  Speaker 2: in for a treat. He is brand new to the
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  Speaker 2: Cryptid Hunters channel. And we were just getting to know
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  Speaker 2: each other before the show. And man, I tell you
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  Speaker 2: all what, it's going to be a great show tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He has a fantastic TikTok that I've been following for
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  Speaker 2: a while. And he tells some of the best Bigfoot stories.
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  Speaker 2: He's been doing investigations and taking reports from eyewitnesses. And
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  Speaker 2: he's had at least six of his own Bigfoot sightings
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  Speaker 2: and encounters. He's got a bunch of encounters, but at
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  Speaker 2: least six sightings himself. And even some dogman encounters we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about tonight as well. There's actually one
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  Speaker 2: really fascinating story. about a fugitive manhunt that went down.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was in New York, but we're going
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  Speaker 2: to find out tonight. We're going to get some details, okay,
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  Speaker 2: about this, where two Bigfoots allegedly, we're going to say allegedly,
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  Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes only, were shot and unalived by law enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of an accident a little bit. It
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  Speaker 2: was an accident, but they weren't responding to the commands
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  Speaker 2: to put their hands in the air and stuff, okay?
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  Speaker 2: So anyways... This is going to be a wild ride tonight, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I can't wait. I love having fellow
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot field researchers here in the studio, especially on my
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night shows. And I just saw my buddy Billy
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  Speaker 2: Howell's in the chat tonight. Billy, I believe Billy's probably
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  Speaker 2: going to be our guest for our Halloween special next weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Next weekend is Halloween, y'all. And so I have it
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  Speaker 2: on good authority. He might have had a pretty serious
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  Speaker 2: dogman encounter today. I've seen some pictures, y'all. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and so, yeah, so buckle up buttercups. We're in for
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  Speaker 2: a great ride tonight. And, uh, if you guys want
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  Speaker 2: to check out my website and all of my shows
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  Speaker 2: and everything, please go over to my website, the cryptid huntress.com.
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  Speaker 2: You can find, um, all of my shows there, my
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  Speaker 2: calendar of events as well. I have two events coming up, uh,
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  Speaker 2: within the next few weeks, I'm going to be over
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  Speaker 2: at the Molina Bigfoot festival here in Georgia, in Molina, Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've got a flyer. If you guys want
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  Speaker 2: to come see me on November the 14th, and that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be one of the best small town Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: events in the world. Y'all come see me at that.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Cox is actually going to be there. Y'all know
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  Speaker 2: Rick that comes on the show sometimes. He's speaking, and
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  Speaker 2: Angie Williamson has also been on the show. She'll be
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  Speaker 2: speaking there as well as a host of other folks.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be fun, and there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: live music.
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  Speaker 1: What was that? What were those?
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  Speaker 2: There was some kind of, I forgot what kind. There's
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  Speaker 2: like old timey. It's just real country, y'all, and it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Not mandolins. I forgot what kind of instruments those ladies
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  Speaker 2: were playing. C. Duke will remember. She's in the chat tonight,
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  Speaker 2: if you can remember. But there are some women that
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  Speaker 2: have a whole group of women playing old-timey instruments and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I always look forward to that at that festival.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It is what it is, y'all. I love it. But anyways,
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  Speaker 2: I got that. And then we have the UFO conference
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  Speaker 2: coming up in Huntsville, Alabama. If you guys want to
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  Speaker 2: come see me in December... I think I may have
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  Speaker 2: a flyer for that as well. Huntsville, I believe that's
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  Speaker 2: becoming the headquarters of Space Force, by the way. And
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  Speaker 2: they've asked me to come speak about UFOs and my
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  Speaker 2: experience with ETs and stuff at the World UFO UAP
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  Speaker 2: Conference in Huntsville, Alabama, home of a space center, the
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  Speaker 2: Huntsville Space Center. I went there when I was in
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  Speaker 2: sixth grade about 100 years ago and rode the Gravitron.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget that. out in Huntsville, so I would
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  Speaker 2: love to see all of y'all there. Please come see me, okay?
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, tonight, let's get to our show, y'all,
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  Speaker 2: because I have a fantastic guest, and I am just
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  Speaker 2: tickled to death to have him here in the studio tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So tonight, we're going on the hunt with Bigfoot field
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  Speaker 2: researcher Dean Gleason of Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research to discuss
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  Speaker 2: his multiple Bigfoot encounters, his investigations into creatures across New York,
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  Speaker 2: and he lives on the border of Canada, y'all. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get details into a report of the Bigfoots,
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  Speaker 2: which were reportedly shot and killed by law enforcement officials
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  Speaker 2: during an intensive fugitive manhunt. And there's a whole bunch
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  Speaker 2: of other stuff I want to talk to him about
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  Speaker 2: as well tonight. Dean Gleason is founder and director of
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  Speaker 2: Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research. And he's been a Bigfoot researcher
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  Speaker 2: for over 35 years. He's done many field investigations, interviewed
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  Speaker 2: many eyewitnesses. and join investigations with other research organizations, including
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  Speaker 2: the BFRO. Dean has had six Bigfoot sightings over the years,
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  Speaker 2: in addition to many other encounters, and he's currently located
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  Speaker 2: in the northern and central areas of New York. You
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  Speaker 2: guys can find him over on his YouTube, not YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a Facebook group. It's the Seaway Valley Bigfoot Researchers,
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  Speaker 2: and also he's over on TikTok, and I put the
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  Speaker 2: links down in the description box, you guys. Please help
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  Speaker 2: me welcome to the show, Mr. Dean Gleason.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Dean. Hey, good evening. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for being here. I heard that you're
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  Speaker 2: in one of your Bigfoot research areas tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. I came up here tonight to close the place
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  Speaker 1: down for the year. It's getting way too cold to
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  Speaker 1: be out here, and I'm getting way too old to
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  Speaker 1: put up with it anymore. So I came up here
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  Speaker 1: this weekend to close things down and and get the
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  Speaker 1: camp ready and try to mouse and rat proof it
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  Speaker 1: for the winter. And, you know, just get everything ready.
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  Speaker 1: And I was a little concerned. The only way I
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  Speaker 1: could stay here tonight was if the heat was working.
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  Speaker 1: And when I first got here, the heat wasn't working.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I've got my heat problems solved. So
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be okay tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. If you're like me, you carry some
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  Speaker 2: propane tanks and camping heaters in the back of your
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  Speaker 2: truck everywhere you go. That's what I've been doing lately.
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  Speaker 1: I got a propane heater here, but it's never worked right.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going with the old fashioned kerosene tonight. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's rustic. I like that. I like that. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have, do you have big foots around that area
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  Speaker 2: where you're at?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I've had them right here on the, near
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  Speaker 1: the camp, um, several times. Oh, I've never seen one
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  Speaker 1: out here, but they've come by and slapped the side
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  Speaker 1: of the camp. And, um, one time they left me
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  Speaker 1: a gift out here. Um, They left me four corn
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  Speaker 1: cobs and seven potatoes one day out here in a
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  Speaker 1: little circle next to the camp. I had been giving
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  Speaker 1: them cookies fairly often all summer. So I think that
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  Speaker 1: was their way of coming back and saying thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I love that. You know, I actually
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  Speaker 2: had a gentleman on the show a while back from California,
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Brandenburg. was on the show and he said that he,
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  Speaker 2: years ago, he was gifted an ear of corn by
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  Speaker 2: some Bigfoots. And he said, it was really odd. He
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  Speaker 2: was like, it was really weird. But they left me
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  Speaker 2: this beautiful ear of corn. He was like, and I
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  Speaker 2: put it away and I eventually ended up eating it.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I felt like I needed to eat this thing.
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  Speaker 2: And he did. And he said that it was weird
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  Speaker 2: that they left him that, but it was even more
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  Speaker 2: strange that when he ate it, he felt like he
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  Speaker 2: had like some kind of weird psychic connection to those things,
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  Speaker 2: to the Bigfoot out there. that had left that for him.
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  Speaker 2: He said it was just, it was just a really cool,
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  Speaker 2: interesting story. And I love getting, I love hearing from
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  Speaker 2: everybody that has Bigfoot encounters.
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  Speaker 1: We have a local place up here that makes their
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  Speaker 1: own hot dogs and are the greatest hot dogs you'd
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  Speaker 1: ever have. They're red and they pop when you bite
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  Speaker 1: into them. And this is the only area of the
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  Speaker 1: country you can get them. And they also make pickled
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  Speaker 1: sausages that are awesome. And a lot of the bars
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  Speaker 1: around here sell them, you know, for a buck or
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  Speaker 1: two with a couple of crackers and they're, Really good.
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  Speaker 1: I bought a jar of them and I brought them
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  Speaker 1: here and I forgot I had them. And they sat
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  Speaker 1: here at the headquarters for like three years. They got
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  Speaker 1: pushed behind something. So I found them when I was
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  Speaker 1: cleaning the camp last summer. I'm like, oh man, these things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can't be any good. So I put
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  Speaker 1: them out on the picnic table with every intent to
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  Speaker 1: take them and throw them out. Well, I forgot and
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  Speaker 1: left them there. And I came back the next week
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  Speaker 1: and they were gone. The jar was still there. The
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  Speaker 1: lid was still there, but the sausages were gone. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking that poor Bigfoot that ate them. I felt
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  Speaker 1: bad for him. He probably had the worst bellyache for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days after he ate those sausages. They
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have been any good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, they probably eat raw meat. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure they can stomach it, I would think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I still kind of felt bad. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? One of the ongoing, I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of a regular thing that I do on the channel,
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  Speaker 2: is when I have friends from the South that come
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  Speaker 2: on my show, Dean, I always ask them, how do
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  Speaker 2: you pronounce Vienna sausage? Okay, and it's kind of an
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  Speaker 2: ongoing joke that I have because I cannot pronounce it right, apparently.
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  Speaker 2: i say vienna and this is something that we take
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  Speaker 2: out to the woods we go big footing or vienna
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  Speaker 2: sausages right and i didn't know for the long you
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  Speaker 2: say vienna yeah well that that is the civilized way
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  Speaker 2: to say it i guess right And all the guys
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  Speaker 2: down here.
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  Speaker 1: I've been accused of a lot of things, but I've
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  Speaker 1: never been accused of being civilized. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm the first one to call you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: compared to me, you're civilized apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But, uh, Oh no, I know. Well, it's funny. I'm
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  Speaker 2: glad you have pickled sausages. Cause I grew up with
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  Speaker 2: pickled eggs, pickled sausages in Viena sausages myself. So, so
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  Speaker 2: I would leave some of those out for Bigfoot if
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  Speaker 2: I needed to myself. So that's great. Are you into
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  Speaker 2: gifting Bigfoot? Have you, do you do that regularly or
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  Speaker 2: is that something.
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  Speaker 1: That you did? I used to quite a bit. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't so much anymore because I'm not here at
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  Speaker 1: the headquarters as much as I used to. I used
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  Speaker 1: to live a half an hour from the headquarters and
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  Speaker 1: now I live two hours from the headquarters. So it's
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  Speaker 1: harder for me to get up here to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But when I was a half an hour away, I
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  Speaker 1: was doing it almost every week. And, um, I did
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  Speaker 1: that for several years. Um, I had a source where
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  Speaker 1: people were giving me stuff to bring to them like
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  Speaker 1: cookies and, and things like that. And they, so I
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  Speaker 1: was leaving them out for the Bigfoot quite often. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: I could always tell whether they took it or whether
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  Speaker 1: another animal got into them because they would take the
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  Speaker 1: package and everything. And if something else got into them,
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  Speaker 1: they would just eat it there and make a mess.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to clean up, but the Bigfoot would take,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what they did with the packages after
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  Speaker 1: they took them, but they, I never saw the packages again. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've been doing this for 35 years, Dean. 35 years.
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  Speaker 2: That's about as long as I've been out of high school.
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  Speaker 2: Getting old. But you've been doing this for a while,
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  Speaker 2: a long time, longer than I have. How did you
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  Speaker 2: get into Bigfoot? Did you have an encounter or were
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  Speaker 2: you just really interested in it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, when I was a kid, I was interested in it.
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  Speaker 1: They used to have book fairs when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: They always had these little paperback books, scholastic books, Bigfoot books.
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  Speaker 1: I used to buy them and read them all the time. um,
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  Speaker 1: the first time I really ever heard about Bigfoot was
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  Speaker 1: a movie called mysterious monsters that came out back in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies. Peter Graves hosted it. It was a, a
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  Speaker 1: sun international picture. They did a lot of movies like that.
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  Speaker 1: They did one on Noah's Ark and they did one
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  Speaker 1: on Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. It was combined.
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  Speaker 1: And they did one on the Bermuda triangle and they
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  Speaker 1: were all great. They were, when you were a kid,
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  Speaker 1: they were fascinating. Uh, but my first Bigfoot encounter happened
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  Speaker 1: when I was a junior in high school. Um, My
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  Speaker 1: grandfather and I used to trap and hunt together all
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  Speaker 1: the time. And he was the greatest woodsman I ever met.
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  Speaker 1: He knew everything about the woods. He knew everything about hunting, fishing.
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  Speaker 1: He taught me everything. And we were trapping muskrats in
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  Speaker 1: a small creek near our farm. Back then, you could
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  Speaker 1: get four or five bucks for a muskrat pelt. So
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  Speaker 1: that was good extra money for a kid back then.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, we were trapping this one area. And he
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  Speaker 1: told me not to go down this one inlet. which
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  Speaker 1: surprised me because it looked like it was a good
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  Speaker 1: place to put traps. But he said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: don't go down in there. So to this day, I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe my grandfather saw something down in there. He
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  Speaker 1: never said anything about it, but I think maybe he did,
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  Speaker 1: just didn't want to scare me or upset me. Well, anyways,
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  Speaker 1: after he decided he didn't want to do it anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and he kind of gave the business over to me,
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  Speaker 1: being the cocky young gentleman I was back then, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see any reason not to put traps down in there,
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  Speaker 1: so I did. And one day when I went down
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  Speaker 1: to check the traps, I noticed that I had caught
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  Speaker 1: something and it was still alive, which was surprising because
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  Speaker 1: we use the humane traps. They're instant kill traps. And
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  Speaker 1: it was very rare that you ever caught something and
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  Speaker 1: it was still, you know, still living. So I went
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  Speaker 1: down in to get it. And what had happened was
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  Speaker 1: I had caught a snapping turtle by the back flipper.
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  Speaker 1: And they're probably next to a crocodile, the meanest thing
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  Speaker 1: that lives in a swamp. They're just... Yeah, they are.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up on a lake.
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  Speaker 2: We had a bunch of big snappers and stuff. You
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to get, they'd take your toes off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They'll take your finger, your hand. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was trying to figure out what I was
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  Speaker 1: going to do. So I took my boat over and
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  Speaker 1: I stuck it by his head and I got him
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  Speaker 1: distracted and I reached over and I got ahold of
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  Speaker 1: the trap and I got it off the flipper. So
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  Speaker 1: he kind of gave me the little turtle finger and
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  Speaker 1: he went off into the swamp. So I went to
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  Speaker 1: reset the trap and I looked over and I saw
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  Speaker 1: that there was a set of tracks that coming out
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  Speaker 1: to the trap from the shore. So after the mud
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  Speaker 1: and everything calmed down from the turtle, I could see
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  Speaker 1: that they looked like giant barefoot human tracks. And they
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  Speaker 1: come right out to where the trap was. But then
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  Speaker 1: they went around the trap and went into the creek.
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  Speaker 1: So I decided not to reset the trap and I
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  Speaker 1: took it out and put it in the boat. And
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  Speaker 1: I rode over to the other side of the creek
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  Speaker 1: and I found where the creature had come up on
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  Speaker 1: the other side and come up out of the creek.
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  Speaker 1: So it swam across the creek and pulled itself up
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  Speaker 1: onto shore on the other side. And I never told
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  Speaker 1: anybody about that for years and years and years. I
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  Speaker 1: kept it to myself because I was just so afraid
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  Speaker 1: people thought I was nuts. But I was pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: I found Bigfoot tracks. So I thought about it later
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  Speaker 1: and I think what happened was is the Bigfoot saw
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  Speaker 1: this thing flashing around in the swamp and thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a fish or something's caught up in there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: easy dinner. And then he got out there and saw
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  Speaker 1: that it was a snapping turtle and came to the
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  Speaker 1: same conclusion I did. He didn't want to mess with it.
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  Speaker 1: And so he just decided he was going to take
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  Speaker 1: off and go to the other side of the creek.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't read Bigfoot's mind, but That seemed
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  Speaker 1: like a logical course of events that might have happened.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of what got me started.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that Bigfoot wanted nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with that snapping turtle, probably. However, they do make good soup,
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  Speaker 2: I heard. I remember, I know this is terrible, and
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  Speaker 2: I know, please forgive me, y'all. I know there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be people that get mad about this. But my
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  Speaker 2: dad used to, I remember, we caught a snapping turtle
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  Speaker 2: one time in a net down the lake. And my
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  Speaker 2: dad ended up making soup out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard it's good too. I've never done it. I've
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  Speaker 1: never had turtle soup, but I heard it's good.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't eat it because I watched it. It was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: It was terrible. And I smelled it and it was
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  Speaker 2: enough for me to say, no, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, probably about 15 years after this happened, I went,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to go deer hunting and I was
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  Speaker 1: going to go hunting on my brother's land. He owns
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the farm now where we grew up and he raised
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: beef cows. And so He has a summer pasture and
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: a winter pasture for the beef cows. And the summer
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: pasture borders on the woods and the cows can actually
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: go in the woods to get out of the sun
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and everything. And then in the wintertime, he moves them
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: across the road to their winter pasture. So I stopped
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: at my brother's house to see if he'd moved the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: cows yet before I went back in the woods because
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't want, you know, a cow to accidentally get,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you know, unalived while we were hunting deer. So he
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: had told me he'd moved them and he says, hey,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you might get a treat today. And I go, really, why?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And he said, well, he goes, there was a cow
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: moose out in the hayfield today. And to see a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: moose where we live is a big deal. The moose
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: kind of hang out down in the Adirondacks and we're
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: north of the Adirondacks. So it's very, very rare that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you see a moose. So I have never seen one,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: but my brother's seen one a couple of times and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: other people have talked about them. So anyways, I went
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: back and I found my place to set for my
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: hunting day. And I sat there most of the day
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and didn't see anything. So it got to be just
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: about dusk and I was thinking about leaving. And my
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: father had this old beat up pickup truck that he
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: used to use for feed to feed the beef cows.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And he started that thing up and it never had
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a muffler on it. You could hear it for 30
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: miles when he started this truck. And when the truck
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: got started, the cows got all excited because they knew
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: they were going to get fed. So they're all bellaring
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and mooing and making all kinds of noise. And right
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: directly out in front of where I was sitting, there
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: was a bunch of brush and And all of a sudden,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the brush started moving. And I'm like, holy cow, there's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: something big in that brush. So I'm thinking I'm going
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to see the moose, you know, because I'm not thinking
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: anything else. And a deer couldn't make the brush move
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like this. I mean, this brush was really rocking. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a Bigfoot popped up out of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that brush. I could only see him from the waist up,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but it appeared to be a big male. He was
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: probably about eight foot tall. And he was standing there
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: looking around, and he made a noise like a big
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: barrel-chested man that's frustrated. He went, oh, like that. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: then he turned around and he walked away. I saw
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: him for probably all of 10 seconds, if that. But
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there was no doubt at what it was. It was
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot. And that was my first eyeball sighting of
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a Sasquatch. Oh, my gosh. Wow.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. Did it acknowledge you? Did it see you?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think it knew I was there. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was upwind of it. And I was sitting in the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: shade of the trees on a hill. And I was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: in camo. And I don't think it ever knew I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was there. I think it just, it was frustrated because
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the cows were making all that noise, maybe. And it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: was probably doing the same thing I was doing. It
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: was hoping a deer would come down through that little
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: clearing lane. So we could jump the deer and I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: was hoping a deer would come down through there so
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I could shoot the deer. So we were like on
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the same mission, probably with different, different methods. I don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: think he was armed.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: No. Well, you know, a lot of times I have
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: several friends that have said that they've been out hunting.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a common reoccurring theme is
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: they're out hunting. They shoot a deer and it goes
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: off and they're following the blood trail and stuff to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: go get it. And they see the deer dead right there.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: They go to get something to, you know, their truck
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: to go load it up and stuff. And when they
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: come back to get the deer, it's gone.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I had that happen.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I had run him with a Bigfoot earlier
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in the deer season. I didn't see him that day,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but I heard him. I mean, he screamed at me
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: with one of those big aggressive howls. He was mad
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: because I think I was in that area. It was
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on my property. It actually was just not too far
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: from where I am right now. I was up in
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a tree stand and he came through there and a
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: couple of, he, a doe spooked and they took off
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and he was mad and he yelled. And it was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like the weirdest thing I ever heard in my life.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It was the first time I heard that big aggressive howl.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I've heard it a couple of times since then, but
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: that was the first time I heard it. And he
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: was close and he did it once. And every coyote
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: for 20 miles started howling. And then he, and then
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: he did it a second time. And it was like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: somebody shut the volume off to the world. It was
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: just like dead quiet. The coyotes stopped howling. I mean,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you couldn't hear anything. It was just like, the only
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: thing I could compare it to was if you ever saw,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: there was an episode of Happy Days where the Fonzie
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and the boys went camping. And the boys all found
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: girls and they all took off and Fonzie was at
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the camp by himself. So he decided he was going
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to go to sleep. So he lays down in his
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: sleeping bag and he's trying to go to sleep. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the chipmunks are chipping away and the howls are hooting
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and the raccoons are chattering away. And he sets up
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in his sleeping bag and he yells, cool it. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: everything went quiet. And then he kind of grinned. He goes, ha,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: let's see Tarzan do that. And he laid back down
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and went to sleep. Well, that was the only thing
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I could compare it to. When that Bigfoot yelled, it
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was like everything in the woods just cooled it. He said, okay,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: we're going to be quiet. You know, sorry, mister. Oh yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That's, that's one of the things that we, we know
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that there's a Bigfoot in the environment, in our area,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: when everything goes mute, I call it mute. It just,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been talking to a friend of mine,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you know, we're out there at a known Bigfoot area,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: one of my research areas, and we're just sitting there
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: catching up, just talking and the crickets are chirping and
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the bugs are making noise and the frogs are frogging,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: whatever they're doing, croaking. And, and we're just sitting there
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: kind of, almost like kind of yelling over each other.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, trying to talk and not paying any attention.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden everything goes mute. And then
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: he and I are still yelling at each other, talking
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: in the way. And it was so, it was so jarring.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Cause it's like, Oh, several years ago, I did one
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of these shows with Bigfoot or not Bigfooters, ghost hunters. They,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: they had a pod show for a while and they
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: asked me to come on to talk about Bigfoot. So
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I went on and I was on the show. They
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: got called to a ghost investigation in Bath, New York.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: While they were there, they found Bigfoot tracks in a
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: cornfield near where they were doing the investigation. They told
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the family, hey, you should get a hold of Dean.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: He's not far from here. He'll probably come down and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: do an investigation and let you know what's going on. They,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: through a series of ways, got a hold of me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I went down and did a couple of weekends investigation.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: We never saw one, but we had We had some
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: wood knocks and we had one wood knock that was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: real close to us. Scared the heck out of the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: young lady that was with me. She jumped up on
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: top of me like Scooby-Doo and Shaggy, grabbing hands full
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: of me, yelling.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: There's one right over there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, it's right over there. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: know where it is. It's not going to hurt you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But anyways, I went down there for this investigation. A
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: couple of weekends, like I said, we had great results.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And the young lady that I was talking about, the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: one that got so scared, she graduated from college and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: she asked her mom and dad if she could invite
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: me to her graduation party. So I got there and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you a little funny side story. When I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: got there and she, she's a lesbian and all of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: her friends from school that are also lesbians all came
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to the party. So it was just like her family,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: me and all these, these girls and I'm old school. Okay.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So please nobody take offense what I'm going to say.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Cause I don't mean it that way. They're all trying
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to tell me their pronouns. Okay. And I have never
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: been into that. So finally I just said, guys, I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: too old for that stuff. I'm going to tell you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: right now, everybody, The rest of the weekend is Ralph. Okay,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call everybody Ralph. If anybody's offended by
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: being called Ralph, let me know now. And they all
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: laughed and they thought it was funny. So the rest
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: of the weekend, I called everybody Ralph. So they all...
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: In terms of... It's a term of.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I meant nothing bad about it. Like, hey, Ralph. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: they all thought it was funny. So anyways... My pronoun
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: is Bigfoot.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm Bigfoot. My pronoun is Bigfoot. Bigfoot Lake.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot Lake. Okay.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I know. So anyway, all the girls took off wherever
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they were going to go and left their parents and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: me at the fire. We were the only ones left.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: And about 1130 at night, some coyotes killed something. Okay.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You could tell they had got something down and they
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: killed something. And about 15 minutes later, there was a big,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: aggressive Bigfoot howl. And the parents had never heard one before.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And they jumped up and they go, is that what
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we think it is? They automatically knew what it was.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And they had never heard one before. Is that what
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: we think it is? Was that a Bigfoot? And I go, yep,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that was a Bigfoot. And I says, you know what
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: else just happened? And they go, what? I go, the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: coyotes just lost their dinner.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. Well, to me, that's a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: treat getting to hear stuff like that. But I know
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that's terrifying to people who are not Oh, yeah.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: They were like, wow.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. It's so it's pretty exhilarating, but it's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: also terrifying for some people. You know, for you and I,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: we'd be excited about that kind of stuff.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's pretty darn cool. I mean, you've had six,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: six sightings. You said you've actually seen six Bigfoots at least.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: What is the kind of general consensus of what they
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: look like? Have they all been New York Bigfoots?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the ones I've seen have been all New
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: York Bigfoots, and they've actually been all pretty much local Bigfoots.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: What do they look like? Because I know we've got
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: skunk apes down here in the south, and a lot
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of them look very similar. But how do you describe
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the ones that you've seen?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Well, most of the ones I've seen, I've seen at
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a distance. Um, closest ones I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: saw were the one I was just telling you about.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: And then I saw a juvenile and the juvenile, I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was right up on top of the juvenile. I was
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: probably only 50, 60 feet away from him. And, um,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: so he may have looked a little different cause he
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: was young. He was probably only about four foot tall. Um,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he looked very human in the face. Um, the skin
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was very dark. Um, I could compare it to somebody
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: from the southern part of Africa, that tone of skin
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: that they have. It was very similar to that tone
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of skin. He didn't have a lot of hair on
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: his face. He had little hair, not very much hair
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: on his hands either, but his chest and his shoulders
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and his arms were very hairy. And he had just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: enough hair that it was covering up his little big foot.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: You could barely see it, but it was there. Oh
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: my gosh.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: His little big foot.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: His little big foot. Yeah. It was funny. I was
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: on a, one of my friends has a show, a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: live show he does every night. And so every once
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in a while I come out and just chat with him.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And there was a guy that he, his first time there.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And so I was telling the story about the big
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: one I saw. And he says, can I ask you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a question? I'm like, yeah. He goes, how do you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: know if it's a male or a female? And I go,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Because they have male and female parts and everybody laughs.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they do. Well, you know, there's been
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of controversy lately about the whole Patterson. It
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: comes in waves, right? They're always debunking the Patterson Gimlin
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: film and stuff. And, you know, I just went on
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: my good friend of mine, Barry, he has a show
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: on YouTube and we watched that movie Capturing Bigfoot together.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And I haven't given it a whole lot of advertising
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: on my channel, you know, Uh, but, uh, but I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: went over to Barry's channel to talk about it yesterday.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: We watched the documentary and it's, it's interesting, you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: like I believe Patty is real.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I do. And, uh, oh, by the way, I wanted
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to ask you about the Adirondack Bigfoot body. Cause I,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's how I came across you on, on TikTok.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I may have been following you already.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: That's the most controversial Bigfoot thing I've ever been involved with.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And I really wasn't involved.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It was so funny. I saw, I saw, I think
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I commented on your TikTok. Cause I was like, thank goodness.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Somebody has seen it. It's a Bigfoot researcher. And, and so, well,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: let me, I'll finish my, my, my sentence, my, my
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: thought about Patty, you know, she has breasts and stuff
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and you can see these breasts and, And that was
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: kind of a topic of that movie, that documentary that
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I watched and stuff. Nonetheless, there's people like M.K. Davis
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and some other researchers who have really put a lot
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of decades of research into her anatomy and stuff. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: so that's fascinating. So I always take that into account
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: when there's people trying to debunk that film and stuff.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: But that's kind of a different topic. I don't know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: what your opinions are on that, but I do know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: every five or six years, there's one of these things
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that comes out about that. I probably seen four or
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: five of them and nobody debunks it. I mean, they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: come close, they come close, but they don't debunk it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: They did not debunk it. Like, I gotta say, this
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: is my opinion as a researcher and stuff. and having more,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: you know, I've seen other, more information with the Patterson
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Gimlin film, like what happened before Patty was filmed and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: all this stuff, like all the, there's a lot of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: dark stuff behind the scenes. Uh, I'm going to say
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to the audience tonight, uh, What that documentary did was
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: expose a lot of the dark underbelly side of what
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: happened there. And there were some pretty shady people involved
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in that. And I do admit that. I'm glad they
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: exposed that. But it was not a smoking gun to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: say that Patty's fake. It wasn't. They did not prove that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I heard Bob say that it was real. It's real.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And Bob, I find to be a very truthful person. gentleman. Okay. He's,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: he's every part of a gentleman. When you talk to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the guy, you can't help. He's like everybody's granddad. When
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you talk to him, you know, he's, he's a gentleman.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: He's a nice man. I don't think he's lying. If
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the film, and I've said this is a big F
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: cause I don't believe it was fake. Yes. If it
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: was faked, then he also fooled Bob. Bob, I think
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: truly believes it's real. Bob truly believes what he saw
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that day. Um, So that's that's my opinion. That's really
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: all I can say, because I, you know, I'm not
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a film expert and I have not seen the documentary yet.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't plan on seeing it because, like I said,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many of these and they're all basically
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the same thing.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I watched it. So everybody else doesn't have to. OK,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that's what I did. And and I'm glad that I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: did see it because I got to see there are
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: things that were left out. that are, you know, kind
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of hidden from the public. And I, and they did
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: expose that and that's cool. I'm for full disclosure, Dean. And,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and I speak at a lot of disclosure conferences and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I do talk about mostly Bigfoot and Dogman encrypted, of course, but,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: but that, that is, you know, it's kind of, it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: kind of a big deal, but it's kind of not,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's kind of, it is,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but it's not at the same time. Now I wanted
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to talk.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: The bottom line is, the bottom line is if they,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: just one more thing on Patty, then I'll shut up.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: The bottom line thing is if, they ever do prove
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that that film is fake, which I don't think they
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: ever will. Bigfoot is real. The film might be fake,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: but Bigfoot is still real. I have seen them. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: have touched them. I have been... I've seen everything you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: possibly can see about a Bigfoot. I found their scat.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I found their kills. I found the remains of deer
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that they've eaten. I've seen so much that I just
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: know they're there. And I... you know, I'm not making
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: this up. I mean, I was right there, eyewitness and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the people and just eyewitnesses I've talked to and some
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of these people that I've, I've talked to, I've known
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: for years and I know they're not lying to me
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and that they have no reason to. And some of
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: them have a reason not to tell you the story. Yes.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, big, Bigfoot is real no matter what. I do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: believe that the, the Patty side of that film is real.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I really do. And, um, And whether all the other
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: stuff is real or fake, I don't know. But we're
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: going to keep on keeping on no matter what, no
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: matter what. And there's always a hoax. Listen, I live
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: in Georgia. It's home of what is that? Was it
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Rick Dyer? I think he's from Georgia.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: The guy that had the Bigfoot in a freezer a
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: few years ago. I don't know if you remember that one.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: We got a guy in New York just running around
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: with one right now that says he's got a body
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I have covered it. Dean, I covered this and I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: remember telling, I think I mentioned you to the audience
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: one day because I was like, well, there's a fellow
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that's a Bigfoot field researcher out of New York who
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: said he saw it and he said it's completely fake.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Tell me. It's not even a good fake. It's a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: terrible fake. Well, okay.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Let me, let me pull up some pictures of this quickly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: So to refresh the audience's memory, I did pull up
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a couple of pictures. This was, it was called bigfootremains.com
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: was this guy's, not to give him too much advertisement here.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: But you guys will remember there was this Bigfoot that
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: was found dead in the Adirondacks. And according to what
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: this guy said, now listen, Dean, I know good and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: well enough, I don't think the Park Service or anybody's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: going to allow this guy to pull a dead body
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of a Bigfoot out of a national park.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Right? It's made out of papier-mâché and old wigs. I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: have been pre-enthusiastic from it, okay? Oh, yeah? Well, he
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: let me see it. Which I was actually surprised. First,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he wanted to charge me $ 25 to see it. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm not paying you $ 25 to see it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: And so finally he was like, well, and then I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: told him who I was. I said, you know, I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: from Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research. And I said, and I says,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen, it looks like you made a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: really bad copy of the Minnesota Iceman. And he kind
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of grinned when I said that. Okay. And I'm sure
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you know the Minnesota Iceman. But anyway, I said, it
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: looks like a very bad copy of the Minnesota Iceman.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And he even had it in the same pose as
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Iceman.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Did he?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: In the case, because this was at the New York
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: State Fair.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had it at the New York State Fair. Okay.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: So you went to go visit at the New York
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: State Fair. I was actually kind of putting it out
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in the audience. Hey, if anybody's there, please. contact me.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I'd love to bring you on the show to talk
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: about it. Nobody ever went to go see it that
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I knew. So you're the first person that I didn't.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Even know he was going to be there. This was
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: last year. I saw it. He was there again this year,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: but it was last year that I saw it. I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: didn't know he was going to be there. I just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was at the fair. I go every year. Okay. And I,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I just was walking around and he, he was in
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: one of the buildings and I saw it and I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: saw the Bigfoot sign first and I go, Oh, it's
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: probably somebody's, you know, he's selling, you know, something. I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: went over there. He was. He was selling mugs. Actually,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I did buy a mug from him because he had
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: some pretty cool mugs. I bought a Bigfoot mug from him.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: He says, oh, yeah, I've got the body in there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I found it and all this stuff. I'm like, okay.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I says, come on. I says, I've been doing this
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: for 35 years. I says, I really don't think you
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: have a Bigfoot body in there. He's like, well, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: want to see it? I'm like, yeah. He goes, well,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I charge you $ 20 a piece to see it. I go,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not paying you $ 20 a piece to see it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't believe you have one. And I said,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a Bigfoot researcher. I know what I'm talking about.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: He goes, okay. I walked in and I go, really?
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I just looked at him and went, really? I said,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: this is the Minnesota Iceman. And I said, you even
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: have it. He's got it. That picture, it's a little
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: bit different pose than what I saw. But it's the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: same thing. And the face is definitely paper mache. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly how he made the hands, but the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: thing looks like it's a bunch of old wigs hooked together.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Those pictures actually look better than the real thing looks. Really?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, what I found interesting is that he
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: had some famous people backing it. And he had actually
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: put out that one of the universities, like a huge university,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: had done a DNA study, but they denied it. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: forgot which university that was. But they put out a
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: press release and said, we never did a DNA test
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they didn't. I'm sure they didn't. There are
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: several credible DNA testing surveys going on right now. Uh,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: if you want to know what they are, I can't
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: tell you the exact university, but if you contact, um, um,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot and beyond that, they're, they're kind of helping sponsor
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it and, and they could give you the information, but I, uh,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: not that I'm trying to plug your competition, but I'm
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: just saying, I know that they're involved with it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Um, No, I'm all for the research and whoever's doing research. I, I, I,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you know, lift up everybody out there in the community.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I'm the, I'm the Bigfoot community's biggest cheerleader, even though
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: some of them try to eat me occasionally.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: That's the one that Cliff and Bobo run.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I met Cliff before. I met Cliff at the Alabama Bigfoot.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I liked Bobo when I didn't care for Cliff.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Tell us how you really feel, Dean. I'm just kidding.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I will always tell you how I really feel. I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: don't know how most people have that little voice in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: their head that says, I probably shouldn't say this. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: don't have one of them. I don't have one of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: those voices.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. No, I, you know, I can appreciate that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I am a very upfront, you know, just give me
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the meat and bones, the meat and potatoes, the bare
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: bones of everything. And we put the truth out there
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: as we know it. Okay. The truth is we know it. And, uh,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and I can appreciate that. No fluff.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and so, yeah, I, I appreciate that you
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: went there and, and did the investigation of that thing
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: because I was wondering, uh, there's, I just knew there's
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: no way that could have been real. It's not real.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Paper mache. And what, what do you think? Uh, do
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you think it's just some kind of project or do
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: you think it's just for the money and the attention?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's, he's just trying to get his
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes, you know, and, um, he's making a little
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: money on it. I don't know how much he's making
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: because the state fair charges you actually quite a bit
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to be there. So I don't know how much he's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: actually making. But, you know, when I was there, he
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: had two or three people come in and put down
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the money to go see it. But it wasn't like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: he looked like he was making a ton of money,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: not for the state fair. The state fair is, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you know, 60, 70,000 people a day, if not more,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: go through that building. And so, you know, if he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: had two or three out of that many people going
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: through there, he probably didn't make a whole lot of
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: money on it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Dean, he had William Shatner narrating that event. Did you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: hear that? Did you hear William Shatner?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: No, I did not. I didn't know that. Shatner will
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: do anything. I could tell you stories about Shatner. I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: know Shatner, too, and I could tell you stories about Shatner.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: He is not a nice man, and he'll do anything
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: for a buck.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I like you, Dean. I like you. You're no holds barred.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: One of my friends almost beat the snot out of
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: him one day. We did.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I would ask you about that. We got to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: talk about Bigfoot tonight.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. We can get to that if
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: we have time later. Because I love that story about Shatner.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: So I'd love to tell that story.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: That is so funny.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Larry says, was it Cornell University? I think it was Cornell, actually.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I think it was, but I'm not sure. There's another one.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Right now, a big one or a huge one. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: can't remember what the Cornell was. Cornell, I'm sure, is
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: probably doing one, but there's another university that's got an
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: ongoing one that they've had going for like over a year.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, wonderful.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Wonderful.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Let me take a quick commercial break. I want to
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: thank Gary Spikes Sr. Thank you, Pops, for that super
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: sticker tonight. Thank you so much for your support, Gary.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and thank you for being a moderator
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: over here on the channel too, Gary. Much appreciated. Yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I have some of my Bigfoot field research teammates in
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the chat tonight. Oh, Stanford.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: It was, this is Ed, one of my teammates here, actually.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: He lives up in North, he's a Bigfooter out of
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: North Carolina. And he said Stanford. It was Stanford.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That sounds like it could be, that sounds like the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: one that they could be involved with.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: It was. Okay. Well, well, that's great.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You guys be careful. If you, somebody says they have
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: a Bigfoot body, they probably don't have a Bigfoot body.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: If they have a Bigfoot body, they won't have it
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: long enough to show it to you.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Well, don't you think, you know, we were talking before
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: we went live about the MIBs and stuff where, you know, the,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the government, they, there's, I, I believe personally, there's a
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: connection between, you know, the government, there's definitely coverups going on.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I'd mentioned that to you before we went
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: live again. Another thing I mentioned, I, I, through my investigation,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: through what I know, through my eyewitness accounts, I think
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that there's probably some kind of huge coverup that's been
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: going on in this age of disclosure and, you'd think
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that maybe even our governments would be, or agencies would
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: be a little more open about Bigfoot and stuff. But
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, there haven't been a whole lot of bodies
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: found that we know of because I think they come
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: in and they scoop them up.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They hide them from us.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think that they'll, first of all, do
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: you think that we're ever going to get disclosure on Bigfoot?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: It's like we're getting with the aliens right now through
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: our government.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we kind of did get a little crumb thrown
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to us during the pandemic where the FBI did try
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to say, well, yeah, they are Bigfoot out there. You know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: we have DNA, blah, blah, blah. But they kind of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: released it at a time when they knew that not
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: too many people would pay attention. And it was right
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: around the same time they started, you know, giving us
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: drips and drabs of the Bigfoot or not the Bigfoot,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the UFO information. They did come out and say, oh, yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we're kind of, you know, under the impression that Bigfoot
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is real, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, like I said,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't make a big deal out of it. I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: think eventually they'll have to because just there's enough younger
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: people getting into government now that the old crew is
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: dying out. And I think some of the younger people
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: will be more apt to let us know what's going
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: on and more apt to tell us the truth about things.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think they just did another UFO disclosure dump,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, because I've logged into my Instagram
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: today and every post was about the disclosure on skinwalkers. So,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you know, of course they've been doing, I think the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: skinwalker ranch, actually, I think that's more of a laboratory,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I think, for, you know, and this is my opinion
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: on it. Okay. But I think that it's kind of
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: like a testing site. in my opinion, as far as
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: cryptids go. And I mean, who's not to say that
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: like a lot of the places that we research too,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: you know, where the places that my team's research, we,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: one of them is compared to the Skinwalker Ranch. They
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: call it the Skinwalker Ranch of the South. And we
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: have all the stuff or more stuff that goes on
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: there that then Skinwalker Ranch has, I guess. So it's
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: not just Bigfoot. Have you, have you found that in
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: your research? Like, is it, you're going out to look
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: for Bigfoot, but do you find other stuff out there too?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people that have any kind
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of a cryptid encounter or any kind of a paranormal
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: encounter are more apt to have more than one. Like, um,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: me personally, I have seen UFOs. I've actually got a
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: picture of one, uh, from my, get one of my
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: game camps here on this property. I got a picture
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of a, of a saucer, um, that I almost deleted
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: because I thought it was, there was nothing in the frame.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And then I saw something up in the sky and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I blew it up and lo and behold, I had
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a saucer. Um, but, uh, I've seen other things too
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: around this area. I have never seen, uh, I think
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I saw an alien once when I was little, when
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I was a kid. Um, I thought I, I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I might've seen a gray, but, um, I have never
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: seen anything with Bigfoot in this area personally, but, um,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I have had other paranormal encounters. Um, part of the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: reason being that, uh, I used to be a youth
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: pastor at a church and we had some weird things
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: happen there. Um, We had a kid that was demon influenced.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, I've had some experience with some
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of that kind of thing, spiritual warfare kind of thing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But as far as other cryptids, Bigfoot's the only thing
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I've actually seen seen. Oh, wow.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what I started learning right off the
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: bat when I started going on expeditions and with my
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot team, my research team, those fellows that I was
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: out there researching with were, they had been researching Bigfoot
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: for decades before I met them. And they had established
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: that Bigfoot was real. They had all the evidence, the proof,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: they knew where they were. And they had actually gone
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: into another level kind of to start communicating. They were
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: already communicating with Bigfoot and stuff and doing experimentation with
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: telepathy and mind speak and all that kind of stuff.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And so it was really interesting hopping onto a team,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you know, after they were decades into this research they
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: were doing already and getting to experience that. And so
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: kind of being in that environment was very special for me.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And I didn't realize how special it was. So I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: started meeting other Bigfoot researchers and stuff. We were seeing
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: that there's an X factor to Bigfoot. And there's something
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: more than just a big monkey running around the woods, right?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Big primate. or what do you call it? Gigantopithecus or something.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's not just that. There's something to it. What do
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: you think about that? Have you seen that there's maybe
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: like an X factor, as we call it, where there's
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: something more like maybe supernatural Bigfoot?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I don't. Okay. The Bigfoot that are in the woods
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that are Bigfoot, I think are question blood hominids. Okay.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But I do believe that there are other things in
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the woods that That if it's to their advantage to
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: make you think that they're a Bigfoot, make you think
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that they're a Bigfoot. I think that there are other
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: creatures out there that mimic Bigfoot. Okay. I don't believe
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that Bigfoot can disappear. I don't believe that Bigfoot can
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just like, you can shoot a Bigfoot and it just
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: pops into a ball of light and floats away. And
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: other stories that I've heard like that. I don't think
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot can do that. The Bigfoot that are real, real
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot are flesh and blood animals. that follow the normal
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: rules that animals follow. They live, they breed, they die,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: they eat, they drink, they chase other Bigfoot around for
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: whatever reason you want to name. But I think that
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: they follow the same rules as a regular animal does.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: But I do believe that there are other beings, because
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I've had experience, like I said, I've had experience with demons,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: As a youth director at a church, I do believe
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: that there are other things like that that are on
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: this earth that we have to contend with. And for
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: their advantage, if they think, okay, I can get by
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: with this human thinking I'm a Bigfoot, and it's not
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: going to question it any further than that, then I'll
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: let it think I'm a Bigfoot. And it'll go on
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: its own evil little deeds it's doing. And you say, hey,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I saw a Bigfoot when you didn't. You saw something else. Ooh.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I like the way you think. I think you're right
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: with that. I think there's a lot of, we are
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: in a, I'll call it spiritual warfare kind of a
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: thing that is going on right now. And Bigfoot, I
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: think all of this is a part of it. You know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: when I started doing the Bigfoot field research, I would
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: wake up at night and have, I had like ETs
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: in my house and stuff that showed up. It was weird.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: And the experience that I had, you know, when I
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: was a kid, I used to see ghosts. And stuff
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and uh when i was a young adult i saw
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: what i thought were ghosts because it looked like victorian
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: era humans that were solid just like you and i
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: right now uh standing in the room my bedroom talking
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: to me and their mouths weren't moving so they were
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: telepathically speaking to me but their mouths weren't moving and
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: as an a a old lady, grown adult, like I
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: am today.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I was having that same encounter, but like with ETs
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And it was just weird. And I started thinking, well,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: what is really going on here? Like when I was younger,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: was I seeing ETs, but it was in my mind,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: it was something different. They were giving me a screen
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: memory or what? Like, it's just, it got really confusing
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: for me. I think Dean, because I think it was
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: all the same phenomenon, but it was whatever my brain
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: was making it out to be.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in ghosts, even though I've seen one.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I personally don't believe in ghosts. I believe the Bible
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: says that to be absent from the body is to
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: be present with the Lord. That's what the Bible says.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that souls stay behind. When you die,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you go to see God. You're judged on what your
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: belief is, whether you go to heaven or whether you
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: go to hell. And then you go to one of
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: those two destinations. I don't think you're allowed to stay
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: around the world and be a ghost. Okay. What I
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: was taught when I went to Bible college was that
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: people who see ghosts are actually seeing demons. Now, my
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: opinion on demons has changed over the years. I, I've
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: researched it a little bit. And I think that most
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: of the fall, people think of a demon. They think
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: of a fallen angel. I think most of the fallen
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: angels were incarcerated by God when they fell. except for
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: some of the major really big ones like, you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Satan and some of his lieutenants. But the minor ones,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the smaller angels that went along with everything, I think
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: they were incarcerated because it talks about the angels being in,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you know, being in prison and stuff. If you read
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: some of like the book of Enoch and other books
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like that, talk about that. But it also talks about
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the Nephilim. Now the Nephilim, if I'm a big Lord
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: of the Rings fan and in the Lord of the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Rings lore is, was based on biblical principles because J.R.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Tolkien was a Christian. And he talked in there about
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: how the dwarves weren't a creation of God, they were
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a creation of one of the Valar. But God blessed
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: them and made them into a sentient race. But the Nephilim,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think were ever meant to be. And the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Book of Enoch talks about when the Nephilim die, they
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: don't go to heaven and they don't go to hell.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: They stay behind and they plague mankind. So I think
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that the Nephilim spirits are what a lot of people see.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: They're the demons. They're the ghosts. They're the spirits that
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: plague mankind are the Nephilim spirits. That's my opinion.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: That actually can make sense. That does make sense, actually. And,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: you know, over the past two or three years, I've
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: had a lot of conversations about this being the end
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: times because it seems like the book of Revelation is
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: really playing out today. And people worry, you know, talk
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: about how Bigfoot and all these dogman encounters too, like
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: werewolves and stuff. Yeah, that's what a lot of people think.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: There's really only one major event that has to happen
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: for the end times to start, and that's the rebuilding
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: of the temple in Israel. And there are plans for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: them to build the third temple. They just can't do
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: it yet because of political situations and other things. And
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the mosque being on the site of where the temple
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: is supposed to go is kind of slowing things up too,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: but they, they are making plans to build the third temple.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And that's really the last major prophecy that the Bible
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: talks about before, you know, the end times begin and, and,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: you know, the Lord comes back and we go into
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the tribulation period. I don't mean to preach. I'm not
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: trying to push my religion on anybody, but that's, but
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that's what, uh, you know, it was pretty obvious by
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the Bible, but.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: And I love that. I actually think that it's, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: think it's important that we do look at the biblical
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: side of things as well, because I, you know, we're
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: all just trying to make sense of what's going on
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: today and why we're having all these encounters with Bigfoot
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and why there's an uptick in dogman encounters and dogman sightings.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: You know, we have a, we've had an uptick in
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Northwest Georgia of a lot of dogman encounters.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I believe the dogmen are pure evil. I don't think
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: there's any redeeming quality to dogmen. I've never heard of
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: a pleasant dogman encounter. They're always vicious. They're always very negative.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: A dogman encounter, I've never heard of a good one. Now, Bigfoot,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, you hear about Bigfoot helping people.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You hear about Bigfoot actually doing very nice things sometimes.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot protecting children that lost in the woods and bringing
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: them back. You hear things like that all the time.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I've heard many stories like that. The little boy that
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: was lost, I think, down in Kentucky, he was gone
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: for six or seven days. And when he was finally found,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: he said that a bear took care of him that
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: whole time and kept him warm and brought him food.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: You know, a bear is not going to bring him
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: food and keep him warm. A bear is going to
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: eat him. OK, that's very simple. A bear catches a
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: little kid. It's going to eat him. A Bigfoot took
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: care of that kid. I'm convinced that a Bigfoot was there,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: took care of that kid for the six or seven
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: days he was gone, fed him, kept him warm at night.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And when it was, you know, when he had an
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: opportunity to bring that kid back to civilization, he did
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: or she did. So that's my opinion on that. But
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you never hear of a good dogman story where a
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: dogman helps somebody. You know, it's always negative. And we
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: were talking before and I talked about the dogman story
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that happened here near where I am now. And it
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: was very negative.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me about that?
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, sure. Well, this happened back in the day. It
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: happened probably back in the late 40s. It was right
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: after they expanded Fort Drum, which is a big military
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: base up here. And when they expanded Fort Drum, they
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: displaced a lot of farm families because the eminent domain
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: took over the farms. Well, back then, the government was
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a little nicer about it than they are today. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: they actually tried to rehome some of these farmers, find
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: them other farms that they could farm. And that's what
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: happened to my neighbor and my best friend's mom and dad.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: They were actually rehomed by the government. The government found
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: them another farm.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Dagnabbit. I tell you what, that eminent domain just chaps
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: my hide.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, me too. Me too. Everybody.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: We all feel the same.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I got a Bigfoot story related to eminent domain too,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I can tell you. But anyway, every farm back then
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: had a boneyard. They had a place where they would
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: take animals from the farm that passed away. Nowadays, farmers
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: have somebody come and take the body away. But back then,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: they had a place where they took a spot on
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the farm somewhere where they would take the dead cows
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: or the dead horses or whatever they had that had
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: passed away, and they would leave them there. And the
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: ones that died are natural causes. Or even the carcasses,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: if they butchered a cow, the bones and stuff they
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: didn't want, they would put them in the boneyard. Every
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: farm had one. Well, the farm next door had one
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: like in our farm had one too. It's mostly gone now,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: but every once in a while a bone pops up
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: out of the ground there. So anyway, they had a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: cow die. So they asked the hired man to take
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the cow back to the boneyard and they didn't have
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: tractors and gas to spare at the time. So he
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: hooked a horse to it and took the horse and
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: dragged the cow back to the boneyard. Well, when he
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: had got there, there was another carcass that had been
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: there for probably a week of a horse that had died. Okay.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: That they had taken back there. They had a couple
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: of bad luck things over the last couple of weeks
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: where a couple of animals had died. When he got there,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: something was feeding on the carcass that was left behind
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and he didn't see it at first. So he got
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: down off the horse and he was unhooking the, the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: cow that he dragged back there and he turned around
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: and he was face to face, whatever this creature was. And, um,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the horse came back without him. So the farmer went
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: looking for him. And when they found him, the guy
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: was almost dead. I mean, he had been mauled by
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: something and they thought at first, maybe it was a bear,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: but bear are very rare in this area. Uh, I've
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: seen more Bigfoot in this area that I've seen bear. OK,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm in the woods a lot. I've seen one
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: bear over the years and I've seen six bigfoot. So
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: six to one is what it is right now. But anyway,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: they brought him back home. You know, back then the
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: doctors came out. You didn't go to the hospital. A
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: doctor came out to your house. So the doctor came out,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: did what he could for him. The guy was kind
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of unconscious for two or three days. When he finally
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: came to, we told everybody what happened. And he described
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that he's as a big, hairy animal. And I don't
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: think it was a Bigfoot because Bigfoot normally don't do that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: If you came up on a Bigfoot feeding on a carcass,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot probably would just run away. But this thing
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: was aggressive and came after it and had no reason to.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Dean, you know what? I don't mean to interrupt you,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: but you're not too far from where the Beast of
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Seven Shoots was photographed. And that was somewhere between New
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: York and Canada. I think somewhere right there. And that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: a Gugwe. You're familiar with Gugwe, right? Those are supposed
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: to be pretty violent.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, I heard this story when I was
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a kid. and i never believed i never believed it
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: okay i thought it was just one of those stories
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that went around and then if i never included it
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in my bigfoot stories you know even though i knew
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: it was without my back of my mind and every
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: once in a while i would come up and my
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: brother and i would talk about it once in a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: while But I ran into an old timer one day,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't even remember how we got cocking on
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that subject. But he goes, oh, yeah, you're not too
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: far from where that guy almost got killed by that animal.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're talking about the boneyard story? And
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah. And I'm like, was that true? And
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, that really happened. He goes, we
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: had a big hunt. We looked for that thing, never
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: found it. And I'd heard that, too, that a lot
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: of the farmers kind of got a posse together, and
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: they went looking for that thing, and they never did
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: find whatever it was. But the mysterious part about the
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: whole thing was, even though this kind of the whole
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: thing is mysterious, the guy disappeared. He got attacked.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: After he healed, did he heal? He healed up a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: little bit?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: He healed up a little bit and then he just disappeared.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: He left all of his stuff behind. He never took,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: he didn't take any of his stuff with him. Just
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: one day he was gone and nobody, nobody knows where
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: he went and nobody ever heard from him again.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe the MIBs came and caught him or something.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: If there were MIBs back then. I don't know. Oh, wow.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: That's terrifying. That's really scary. You know, but I mean,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: you know, I kind of cover different cryptid or, you know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: different attacks on people from all over the United States
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: at least once a week or every couple of weeks.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: You know, just strange cryptids and encounters that people have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: with werewolves and things like that. they go back for centuries, uh,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: werewolf sightings, werewolf reports and stuff like that. I mean,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it very well could have been something like that. Especially
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: up there.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, um, yeah, they said it was, he said
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: it was, that was about all they got out of it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: They didn't get a real good description of it. He
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: just said it was big and it was hairy. And, uh,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and it was weird. Now you asked me about the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: other thing to happen with the bodies. Um, You want
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: me to tell that story now or you want to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: wait on that? Go ahead.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear it.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I was here actually at the headquarters and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I got a phone call. I'd heard rumors that there
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: had been a Bigfoot sighting not too far from here
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of days before that. I'd went in to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: pick up some stuff from a printer and she had
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: asked me, she said, did you hear there was a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot sighting? Blah, blah, blah. You know, because everybody knows
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: who I am. Small town. And I was like, no,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear about that. She said, oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: There was Louisville, New York. There was a sighting in Louisville,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: New York. I'm like, oh, which is about maybe from
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: where I used to live was like 15 miles. So
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I haven't heard anything about it yet.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: So I got here to the headquarters and I was
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: doing some stuff here and I got a phone call.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: And they said, the eyewitness was one of the other
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot researchers. I know the eyewitness wants to meet with
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: some of the Bigfoot researchers tonight and tell his story.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Do you want to come? So I said, sure. So
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I went to, and it was the first time we'd
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: gotten together in a long time. It was four or
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: five of us showed up. And we interviewed the guy
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and we found him to be very credible. So how
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot people are when they get together, we started telling stories.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: And one of the guys that was there, it was
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: an ex-prison guard, ex-CO. And he started telling this story.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: He says, you remember when those guys broke out of
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: prison a few years ago? And this is a national story.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: You can look it up. Actually, they even made a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: movie about it, made for TV movie about it. Apparently
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: there was a seamstress that worked there at the prison
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and she fell in love with one of the inmates
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and he talked her into helping him and his buddy escape.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And they did. And they were gone for a couple
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: of weeks before they caught him. And well, actually the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: one guy got unalived because he decided to stay in
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: a fight instead of surrendering when they did catch up
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: to him. The other guy made a run for the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Canadian border, and he almost made it, and a state
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: trooper shot him but didn't kill him, shot him as
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: he was running, and he was recaptured, and now he's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: off at some maximum security prison down south somewhere. But anyway,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: so this story, the first part of the story is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: easily verified. Okay, then it did happen. Well, while they
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: were looking for the, this is all wooded area around
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: this prison, very thick woods, okay, in the Adirondacks, very
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: thick woods. A lot of hunting camps, a lot of,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you know, places to hide. So these guys eluded the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: police for quite a while. Well, he had retired at
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: this point, the CO that I'm talking to was telling
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the story. But he was very interested in what was
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: going on, you know, professionally and otherwise. And he still
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: had all of his scanners and everything, his radio scanners
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that he had when he was, you know, a CO.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: that tuned a few channels that, you know, the general
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: public can't really get into, the police channels and the
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: police bands and things. So he had been listening, you know,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: in his spare time when he was around the house,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: he had it on listening to what was going on.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: And this guy came on whose voice he recognized. And
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the guy said, I need backup and I need it now.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: And then he goes, oh, he goes, must be that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: he saw him. So then he got really interested. So
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: now he's glued to the radio. And the guy came
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: back on even more frantic. He goes, where in the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: hell is my backup? I told you guys I need
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you here and I need you here now. A few
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: minutes went by and another voice came on the radio
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and said, I want radio silence. Nobody's talking. Everybody shut
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the hell up. And when the guy was on the air,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: he could hear gunshots in the background. And he says,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: then the radio was silent. And he goes, wow, they
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: must have them. So we ran over because that source
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: of information was shut off. So we ran over and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: turned the TV on. Some of the local stations were
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: making a big deal out of it. It was a
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: big deal. So there was like wall-to-wall coverage on some
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: of the local channels. They were breaking in, oh, this
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: is what's going on, blah, blah, blah. So he was
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: expecting there was going to be a big newsflash. Okay,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: we got him, right? Nothing. Not a thing. Not a peep.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: So two or three more days went by and then
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: they caught that they shot and killed the one guy.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of days after that, they got
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the other one. But no mention of what happened that day.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: So he went to a retirement meeting kind of thing.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And there was other CEOs there. And the guy that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: he heard on the radio was there. So he went
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: over to him and he said to him, What was
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: going on that day? I heard you guys on the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: radio and blah, blah, blah, blah. So he pulled him aside.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: He goes, I can't talk to you here. I'll talk
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: to you before I leave. So when they went outside,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: he goes, okay. He goes, I'm going to tell you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: this because I know you're into Bigfoot. He says, there
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: was two individuals walking towards me and I thought it
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: was them. He goes, I ordered them to get down
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: on the ground and they didn't. They kept coming toward me.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: So I retreated because I was by myself. He goes,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I called for backup. A couple of state trooper sharpshooters
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: were not too far from me. They came running, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: they opened fire, and they killed them. He goes, when
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: we got over to where they were, they weren't the people.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: They were two Bigfoot. He goes, they shot and killed
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: two Bigfoot. Wow. And he said, well, what happened? He goes...
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: First of all, they gathered us all together. They separated us.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: They told us, they read us the riot act. Don't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: tell anybody, you know, keep your mouth shut. He goes
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a few minutes later, a helicopter came in. They bagged
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: and tagged the Bigfoot and flew them out of there
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: on the helicopter. Wow. So I was at, it was
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: quite a little bit of time after, maybe a year
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: or two later. I was at a conference in Vermont.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: And Burlington, Vermont, I was up there at a conference
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: and somehow that story got talked about, not the story
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: about the Bigfoot, but about them breaking out. So I said, oh,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you don't live too far from where those guys broke out, right?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, I don't. So then me
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: with my big mouth, I told the story kind of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: pretty much as I just told it. And I didn't
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: think any more of it. It was just a story
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I told at a conference along with other Bigfoot stories
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I told and the experiences that I shared. So I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: got home and about, I don't know, two or three
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: weeks later, I got a very cryptic message sent to me,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: basically telling me that I was to keep my mouth
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: shut and never, ever, ever tell that story again. If
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I knew what was good for me and if I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: knew it was good for my organization and I read the,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I read it. Okay. And, uh, I didn't respond. I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: read the message and I thought about it for a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: little while, maybe three or four hours. And I went
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: back to respond to the message and it was gone.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It was not on any of my, and I thought,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: did I delete it? I went and checked my delete file.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: It wasn't in my delete file. I checked everywhere I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: possibly could. I put keywords in and searched. I couldn't
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: find it. The message was gone. It was just totally
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: erased from my, from my message board. So that was
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: when I made the video saying, okay, if you guys
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: really want to talk to me about this, this is
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: where I'm going to be, you know, come and talk
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to me. And they they never contacted me again. But
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: shortly after that, some weird stuff happened to me. Well,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever watched Netflix or not,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: but there was a program called there was actually called
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the program. It was about a school that I used
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to work at. Okay. I was never accused of doing
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: anything wrong at the school. It was a school for,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for? Delinquent teenagers. It was
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: a lockdown facility. They couldn't leave there. They had to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: stay there. And apparently there had been some things that
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: had gone on there that I didn't know about. I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: just was an employee there. I worked there. as what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: they call the dorm dad for a little while. And
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: then I worked maintenance there and I did some other
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: things for the school. I worked there for a couple
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: of years. And then I didn't like the way things
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: were run. It was run by the Mormon church and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: it had a lot, and they were always pushing the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Mormon doctrine and stuff on you, which being a Baptist
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: kind of rubbed me the wrong way too. So I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: didn't stay, I left. And it was 20 some years ago.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: The school has been closed down that long. It's been
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: closed 20 some years ago. So anyways, after this expose
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: came out, about the school, a partial list of employees
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: was released to the general public and my name was
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: on it. And I had only worked there for a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: very short time and I was not involved in any
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: of the wrongdoing that they were accusing people of. My
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: name never came up on the thing. The local DA
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: did an investigation of everybody that was on the list
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and my name was cleared. I was the only one
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: on the list that the kids actually went online and
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: defended me. They said, I wasn't, I was not involved
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: in any of that stuff. I was nice to them
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: when I was nice as I could be while I
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: was there. I used to do them favors. They remembered me. Well, they,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: they always thought I was a nice guy. Um, you know,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I was the only one that was defended by the students,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: but my name is here. And a lot of people
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: that were involved with the stuff that were bad were
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: never named, but, A select few of us were named
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and I was one of the people that was named.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: But like I said, I was cleared of no wrong.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong. I just, you know, I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: was just an employee of the school.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: And you think it's connected?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's connected. Wow. It could be.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, well, as soon as I heard that,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: because I saw your video and I heard that and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: I actually commented on your TikTok about it and I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: was like, Cause you, cause I heard you say now this,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: this was, you reposted this, I think from last year.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: It was a year ago when that happened, but I,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: but it was very, to me, that's like relevant information
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: here because first of all, you didn't put it on
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: the internet.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: At all until, you know, somebody had kind of threatened you,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: but you, you told them, you said, Hey, you know,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: after you got that email, come see me, I'm going
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: to be at this public event. If you need to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: come talk to me, you come see me here. I'll
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: be here. And so when they didn't show up, that's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: when you decided, you know, to talk about it on
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: your TikTok.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had never told the story. I had never
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: told the story. Okay. And one of the reasons why
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I did was because I didn't want to involve the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: CEO that told me the story. Okay. Because I didn't
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: want people, I thought maybe if I told a story,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I would leak enough information that maybe they could figure
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: out who he was. Okay. And I didn't want to
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: get him involved in it. I didn't want him to,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, have any repercussions or anything, uh, professionally
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: or otherwise. Um, so I kept the story to myself
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: for a long time. I, I didn't say it and I,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: you know, and it was a good story and I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: really did want to put it on my, on my
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: TikTok channel, but I held back until this whole thing happened.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: And I kind of did it because I am what
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of a person. I don't like to be threatened.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I don't respond well to threats, you know, um, I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: don't start fights, but I don't back down from them
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. And, uh, like my dad used to say,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: never start a fight, but always finish it. And that's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: kind of been my life philosophy, I guess.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: I'm the same way, Dean.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I'm the same way. And, uh, and I don't like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: people pushing me around and telling me what to do
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And I have a very healthy dose of respect.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm, I'm the same as you. Like I, when
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: it comes to that kind of stuff, like, um, You know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I protect people's names and stuff, but I get information,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: you know, with some of these cases. And I've gotten
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: to where, you know, when I first went public, when
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: I reluctantly started speaking publicly about my research and stuff,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I was actually told from people in the sidelines, like, hey,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: you need to be careful about what you're saying and stuff.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: And it got to the point to where I kept
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: kind of, I was just telling the truth. And it
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: got to be to where I don't really... I mean,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I'm still here.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: And I've still had a proverbial knock at my door
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: once over something that I was talking about. But, you know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: it takes people like yourself and me too to tell
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: the truth about stuff and to not have that fear
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: and to put it out there if we're going to
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: get anywhere in this world.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Because there's just been a very long, very deep cover
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: up of a lot of this Bigfoot stuff.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of it. There has been. And I think
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: it's time for the disclosure of it. And I've gotten
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: to the point to where I just say things now.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I tell the truth as I know it. And nothing's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: happened to me yet. Okay, so nothing's happened to me yet.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: And I like to bring people like yourself on.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: We talk about disclosure. And a friend of mine and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I were talking about this just the other day. And
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, you think they're going to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: do it. And I go, I don't think they're going
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: to do it unless they're taking their kicking and screaming.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Because I think that they have gotten enough DNA evidence
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: back so far that proves that Bigfoot is very, very,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: very closely related to us. Yes. And that's going to
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: open up a whole can of worms. Okay. What kind
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: of rights does he have? Does he have the same
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: rights as he, as he, a U S citizen? Okay.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Does he have the rights of, does he have the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: rights to healthcare? Does he have the rights to this,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that the other thing, you know, does he have the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: right to vote? You know, I'm sure that there's some
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Democrats that would be out there trying to sign his
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: name up real quick. But anyway, I'm kidding. I'm sorry.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: This is for entertainment purposes only. We are not political.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: That was just there. I had to say it, you know. Oh,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: my gosh. We were looking at a building to rent
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: one time, and the head of the Democrat chair was there.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: And it was election day. And I looked at him.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I go, what are you doing here? And he goes,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? I go, I figured you'd be
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: down at the cemetery filling out absentee votes. Oh, no.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: He goes, ho, ho, ho. Stop it.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: We like to, yeah, it's just.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm just picking. I'm just picking.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: I worked in politics my entire adult life up until
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I had my son or a little after I had
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: my son. And so, yeah, I just, I learned to
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: never talk politics, you know, publicly or at the dinner table.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: But, but it's funny. Listen, you can say whatever you want.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just joking. Oh, man.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: If we're not laughing, we're crying, y'all. Okay. That's what
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: that's about.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: But to get back to Bigfoot, that meeting that we had,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: one of the good things, one of the, well, a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: lot of good things happened from that meeting when we
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: got together. But one of the good things that happened
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: was I met a Native American gentleman at this meeting
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: that I had never met before. And I call him
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot whisperer because anytime I've ever been on a
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: field investigation with him, He'll walk into the area and say, nah,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: we're wasting our time here. Five minutes after we're there. Right.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: And he's never wrong. We are wasting our time there.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: We don't get any, nothing. Other times they'll go in.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah. And boom. Next thing you know, we're
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: hearing tree knocks. We're hearing yips. We're hearing everything. And
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: he was here one night and we weren't even big footing.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: We were just kind of like celebrating that we got
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: the building up and everything. And so people came over
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: and we ate. Cooked hot dogs, you know, and just
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: stood around and had a couple of adult beverages. And
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: we're just having a nice time. And my grandson was
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: here with me, my oldest grandson. And everybody left except
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: for my grandson, him, and myself. And him and my
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: grandson were out there making s'mores and everything. And I'm
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: sitting there just relaxing and enjoying everything. And all of
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: a sudden, he got real quiet. And his first name
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: is Adam. I said, Adam, what's up? He goes, we're
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: being watched. And I go, good or bad? He goes,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: they're curious. And I says, well, you might speak with them.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Tell them to come in and get some s'mores. And
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: he laughed. He goes, I don't think they'll come in
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: and do that. But this guy, he's been having encounters
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: since he was six years old. Wow. He had a
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: family of Bigfoot that lived in the woods behind his house.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: And they had a little girl Bigfoot. They used to
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: come into the backyard and play with him when the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: adults were around. And everybody thought he had an imaginary friend.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: He said she wasn't imaginary. She was a little Bigfoot,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: a little girl Bigfoot. And he goes, her name was Luna.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: And he goes, how I know her name was Luna,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. But I always know her name
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: was Luna. And he goes, and that's how I always
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: referred to her. And my mom and dad thought I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: had an imaginary friend, but Luna would come in the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: backyard when he wasn't there and play with his toys.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: He would move, she would move his toys around. And
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: then his mom would yell at him for leaving a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: mess in the backyard and make him go pick up
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: the toys. And he'd always say, but mom, Luna did it.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: And so she always thought that she was blaming things
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: on this imaginary friend and his imaginary friend did stuff,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: but it was really in real. He said it was
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: really Luna moving the stuff around. And he says he
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: occasionally still sees her when he goes home.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: She's a grown up Bigfoot now, but sometimes she'll, She
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: knows he's there, and she'll come to the edge of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the woods, and she'll make herself known. She'll wave to him,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: or she'll just let him see her for a second
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: or two, and then she'll move away. He goes, I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: think she's probably had kids by now. He goes, her
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: breasts are a little droopy, so she looks like she's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: probably had kids over the years. Like Patty. Like Patty, yeah.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Like Patty.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: He's had so many things happen to him. He was
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: there for the candle horror incident. He wasn't there when
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: they killed it, but he was there before they flew
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: it out. He saw the body. Really? Yeah. I mentioned
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: this to you before we came on the air. Turn
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I think he got a phone call.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Am I back? I don't know yet. You're back.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I had a phone call.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Sweet home Alabama in the background.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Somebody was checking on me to see if I was okay.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Um, that's great. Yep.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Because I'm at camp by myself. So they were checking
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: on me to see if I was all right. Um,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: so anyway, um, he, um, when he got back to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the States, he was stationed out in California for a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: short time before he, he, he left. And, um, everybody
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: knew that he had seen the candle hard giant and
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: he was there for the can. And, um, He also
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: people knew he told the stories about his imaginary friend
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: story about the little girl Bigfoot. So a lot of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: people knew about it. So anyways, he got called in.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: He got called into the commander commanding officers office one day.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: And the commanding officer said, hey, we got a problem.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I think you're the right man for
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: the job. And he goes, what's that? He goes, well,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the Forest Service just called us. A couple of hikers
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: were killed. And their bodies were pretty badly mutilated. And
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it was coyotes and it doesn't
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: look like it was mountain lions or anything like that.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: He goes, they think it might have been a Bigfoot.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: He goes, I know you know things about Bigfoot. He says,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: they're asking us to send some people up there to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: help them out. They don't have enough manpower to do
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: what they got to do to figure out what killed
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: these hikers. He goes, I want to send a squad
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: up there and I want you to go up with them.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: So he took a group and they went up there
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: and they were there for a day or two. They
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: didn't see any sign and they had orders to shoot
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: and kill this Bigfoot if they found it. And in fact,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: they asked him, are you willing to do it? And
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: he said, well, if it's killing people, yeah, I'm willing
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: to do it. He goes, on normal circumstances, I wouldn't be.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: But if it's killing people, I'm willing to do it.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: So anyways, they were there for a couple of days.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: They didn't see any Bigfoot sign. They weren't having any luck.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: And they were supposed to stay, I think, a week.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's the time period he said they were
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: going to stay. So anyway, it was nighttime and they
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: were getting ready to, you know, to hit the hay
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: for the night. And he was sitting by his tent
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: and a pebble hit him. And he thought one of
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: the guys was screwing around. So he told him to
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: quit screwing around. They're like, no, no, we didn't do nothing.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: So he thought, okay, they're lying. So he's watching them.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: And he said, I could see where they all were.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, pop, I got hit by
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: another pebble. He goes, so I knew probably the general
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: direction the pebble came from. So I got up and
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I started walking towards the direction where I thought the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: pebble came from. And he says, I walked a little
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: ways and I went past a couple of trees and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I came on this little clearing. And he goes, on
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: the other side of the clearing, there was a bigfoot
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: standing looking at me. And he goes, It didn't say nothing.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: It didn't make any noise. But he said, I kept
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: hearing over and over and over again in my mind.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: We're aware of the situation and we took care of it.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: You can leave. And he goes, I kept hearing that
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: over and over and over in my mind. The same message.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: So he said, I didn't say nothing. He said, I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: went back to camp. He says, I went to bed
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: for the night. He goes, next morning I got up
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: and I told the guys to break camp. We were leaving.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: And a couple of the guys said something about, oh,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I thought we were staying longer. He goes, nope, we're leaving.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: So he says, they packed up and they went back
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: to camp. He says, we were back there very long.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: He goes, I was expecting it. I got called to
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: the commander's office. And I walked in. He goes, how
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: come you're back so early? And he says, I just
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: repeated to him what the Bigfoot said. The situation was
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: taken care of. And he says, he just looked at
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: me for a minute. He goes, are you sure about this?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: And he goes, yes, the situation was taken care of.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: And he goes, did you get this from a good source?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I got it from the best source.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: And the commander just looked at him for a couple seconds.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I really don't want to know. Okay, bye. And kicked
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: him out of his office.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: And took his word for it, too. That's interesting, isn't it?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? It's almost like they know that maybe
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: they knew he had a connection to the Bigfoot.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they figured. That was why they put
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: him in charge. Man.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: That is, that is wild. But you know what?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Want not to get into like personal stuff here, but,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: but I do, I have been approached by people who
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: have contracts potentially with, you know, certain government agencies and stuff.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: And they're, I think they're fully aware that Bigfoots exists
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And I mean, I've, I've been questioned about
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff that, you know, that I, I
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: know about Bigfoot before from people who have befriended me.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: And stuff like that. And, you know, I keep everything
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: kind of close to my chest personally. Okay. But not
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: to ever compromise any of my research or any of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: the relationships that I may or may not have with,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Bigfoots and critters out in the woods.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: But there is an interest there. And I think they're
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: fully aware of that.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: We have a big military base not far from here.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: It's called Fort Drum. It's the home of the 10th
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Mountain Division. It's the most deployed division in the Army.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: And they do a lot of winter training up here
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: in case they have to go into winter situations. So
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: it's a really important base to the military. And there
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: used to be another big military base in Plattsburgh. I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: think it was more of an Air Force base. But anyways,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: there was another one in Plattsburgh, another big base, which
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: has been closed down. Well, anyways, I was just in
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: this pizza restaurant one day and I had on a
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot sweatshirt I had. And I was sitting there eating
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: my lunch and These group of soldiers came in from
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Fort Drum, and they sat across from me. And we
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: just got talking, you know, shooting the breeze. There was
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: hardly anybody in there. We were just talking back and forth.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: And the one guy said something about my sweatshirt. And
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: there was a younger soldier there, and he said, ah,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: that's a bunch of bullshit. And it was like the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: rest of them all snapped their heads and looked at
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: him like he had just, you know, said a cuss
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: word to me. And they go, really? You think it's nothing?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: And they're like, he looked at him like he was
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: shocked at the reaction, right?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: He was the minority, huh?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: And he's like, why? And he goes, you haven't been
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: on the base that long, have you, son? The one
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: guy said to him. And he goes, no. He goes,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: after you're there a while, you'll have a different opinion. Oh.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, come on. He goes, there can't
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: be Bigfoot around. People would find them. And he says, well,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: he goes, I think you just volunteered for our next outing.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: And he goes, what's that?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: He goes, once a year, he goes, I take a
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: group up to Plattsburgh to the old base up there.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: And our mission is, is to go from that base
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: back to Fort Drum on foot. And it's not no
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: little distance. It's quite a ways. It's probably, I'm guessing
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: probably all the 200 miles, maybe, or maybe not quite
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: that far, but it's quite long ways. It's way over
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: a hundred miles. He goes, our goal is we leave
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: the Plattsburgh base and come back to Fort Drum without
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: being seen. And he goes, and we've never been caught
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: by anybody. He goes, we have to move at night.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: We go through fields. We go, you know, if we
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: have to go through a populated area, we do it
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: in the dead of night. He goes, we've never been caught.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: He goes, now, if we can do it, being humans
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: and being as clumsy and as stupid as we are,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: he goes, don't you think something as smart as Bigfoot
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: can stay hidden and we don't see him? He goes,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: we have sightings of them on the base all the time.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: There's a connection. There's a connection to the Bigfoots and
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: these military bases, Dean. I talk about that all the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: time myself. There's so many sightings around these military bases.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I have people that are actually on my research teams
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: that are in the, you know, former military fellows. And
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: they've had, you know, in Georgia, we have Fort Benning.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: We have Fort Stewart. We have several different, a lot
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: of bases. around Georgia, but those are two of the
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: main ones that I know of. And, and they've been out,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: they've come face to face with Bigfoots doing like operations
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of the woods and stuff.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: That's what these soldiers were telling me too. They see
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: them all the time up there. Fort Drum, Fort Drum
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: is a huge place. You know, looking up on the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: map sometimes it's huge, you know, and it's, They do
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: all kinds of winter training there. And when I was
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: a kid, that was during the Vietnam era, the end
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: of the Vietnam era. But they were doing live fire
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: training up there. And we used to be able to
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: drive down the road from our house. And if you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: got in a certain place, you could see the flashes
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: from the guns. You know, when they were doing the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: live fire exercises over there at night. So it was...
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: It's a big, huge place.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Well, first of all,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: I want to do a quick commercial break. Angel, thank
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: you so much for that super sticker. I'm so thankful
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: to have you here tonight. Thank you, Angel, for that.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: You're awesome. Thank you for your support. I have a question.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of rewind and go back to
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: when those hikers were mauled to death or attacked or
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: whatever happened to them. And the gentleman got kind of
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: like a telepathic mind speak message, some kind of download,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: let's just say. that the matter was taken care of.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: This is just your opinion that I'm asking.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think, what was your feeling? Do you think
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: that maybe there was a Bigfoot that was attacking them
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: or a dog man or something? I mean, it had
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: to have been something related to.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: It could have been one or the other. It could
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: have been one or the other. You know, there's the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: old Indian story about the female Bigfoot that was snatching kids.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: And that happened out in that area, not too far
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: from where he was. Back in the day, I guess before,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: you know, before Europeans came here. And the Bigfoot and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: the Native Americans actually had kind of a little bit
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: of a war between them. And they kind of, it
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: ended with, you know, well, this female Bigfoot, for whatever reason,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: was taking kids and killing them and eating them, I guess.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: And they think she might have gone crazy or there
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: was something wrong with her. Well, anyways, the Native Americans
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: hunted her down and killed her. And the rest of
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot in the area were not happy that they
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: did it. So they started raiding the villages. And it
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: went on for a little while. And finally, they come
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: to some kind of agreement where you stay there and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: we'll stay here. And they didn't have much interaction after that.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Before that, they had quite a bit of interaction with
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: each other. But after that, they kind of kept to themselves.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: And it might have been probably maybe the beginning of
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot isolating themselves from the Native Americans. Oh my gosh.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: That's tragic.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bigfoot researcher that I heard tell the story
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: about this was a young lady. And she had gotten
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: special permission from the tribe to go up and interview
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: some of their elders about Bigfoot. And this is the
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: other part of the story. She said, she goes, when
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: she went to leave, it was dark. And because she'd
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: been there quite a while because she was, you know,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: getting so much. They were actually opening up and telling
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: her a lot of great information. And she was, you know,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: really soaking it in. So she stayed quite a while
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: listening to these elders talk and really enjoying it. And
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: when she went to leave, the one elder said, he goes,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I've got to ask you a question before I let
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: you leave. He says, but please, please, please do not
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: take it the wrong way. I do not need it
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: mean any disrespect to you, but I have to ask
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: you this question. And she said, well, of course, you
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: can ask me anything. He goes, okay. He goes, like
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I said, please don't take this offense to this. He said,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: but are you menstruating at this time? And she was shocked.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: And he asked her that, right? It just happened to
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: be that she was. And he goes, okay. He says, well,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: he goes, if that's the case, he says, I'm going
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: to have to have a couple of my young men
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: walk you to your car. He says, this is the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: mating season. And he goes, they have been known to
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: grab young females that are on the menstrual cycle. And
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: he goes, so for your safety, I'm going to have
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: a couple of my people walk into your car. Oh, man. Yeah. Whoa.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was actually kind of surprised that that aspect
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: of women who are on... I guess they're, they're cycles,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: wherever you want to call it. That was included in
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: that capturing Bigfoot documentary that I watched. It was, it
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: was because the son of Roger Patterson said that when
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: he was a little boy, when he was, he was
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: very young, him and his dad took a trip up
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: into the mountains to go Bigfooting. And that's when they
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: stuck these two horses in the back of their Volkswagen van.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they did that. I don't know
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: how they, I was, I was more impressed with the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: fact they got two horses in the back of a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: Volkswagen van. okay and shut the door and uh but
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: they they had gone up to some area and his
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: and roger patterson had actually um put a mannequin of
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: a woman with a blonde wig on in a sleeping
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: bag and had a jar full of some let's just
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: say female body fluid okay the red stuff and uh
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: and had put it kind of taken, you know, cotton
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: balls of it or something and put it around the,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: in that, that sleeping bag. And, and he said that
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: when he was, when they went to go, you know,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: kind of turn in for the night, the Bigfoots out
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: there went absolutely crazy. And, and it was so, it
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: was like dangerous. And, and he said that when his
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: mother found out about that, when he got home, she
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: never let him go back out there with his dad again.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: There has been, I've heard several stories about Native American women,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: that were, you know, grabbed by Bigfoot. And one of
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: them actually escaped and came back and she was pregnant.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: And the baby didn't live and neither did she. They
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: both died. But when she came back, she was, when
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: she got away from them and got back to the tribe,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: she was pregnant. And, um, um, you've all heard about
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: the prospector that was captured or, uh, taken and held
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: by the family of Bigfoot. Um, yeah. Um, I just
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: recently heard more to that story. In fact, I included
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: it in my Bigfoot stories that he said that he
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: really got the impression after he was there for a
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: little while that they may have been scoping him out
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: as a possible mate for their young daughter. Yes.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: I heard that. I've heard that before.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I hadn't heard that. I, I, I'd heard
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: that story a million times and I'd seen the interview
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: with him, you know, that they got before he passed away. And, and, um,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: But I had never heard that aspect of the story before,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: but he really thought that they were scoping him out
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: as a mate for their daughter. That was why they
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: grabbed him in the first place.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Well, some people speculate that, you know, there's four, just
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: for the sake of an argument or a debate or
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: for a discussion, there are four different types of categories
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: of Bigfoot. And the first type would be like the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: patty type. Second type would be kind of like more
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: of an ape type, I guess. The third type would
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: be like a genoscope or a Gugwe type that's kind
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: of looks, has a muzzle on it. And then the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: fourth type is kind of a Neanderthal wild man, right?
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Like a Neanderthal looking, more human-like looking Bigfoot. And some
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: people theorize that actually that's the result of one of
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: the other types that's more kind of primate-like mating with
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: a human woman. And maybe that's why they look more human,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: you know? So I don't know.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's wild.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: There's a really good book. I don't recommend many books
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: on Bigfoot, but this one I really, I really do recommend.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: It's called Enoch, a Bigfoot story. And it's about a
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: gentleman that claims that he kind of has been accepted
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: by a group of Bigfoot down in Florida. And he,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: and he pretty much lives with them most of the time.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: And he talks about the differences in the Bigfoot, how
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: they look. And he goes, some of them look almost
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: darn near human, you know, Face-wise, there's some that look
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: really gorilla-like. And even the same thing you were saying,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: some will look really, really gorilla-like and other ones look
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: almost human. And I enjoyed that book. I really think
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: that it's based on a true story. It wasn't written
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: by the man that's telling the story. It was written
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: by a Bigfoot researcher who he told the story to.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed that book. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: I have to check that out. I've not heard of
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: That's a good book. I can't remember the name of
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: the author, but it's called Enoch, A Bigfoot Story. Not
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: to be confused with the book of Enoch, you know,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: but I really enjoyed that book. And somebody recommended it
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: to me and I read it. And then the gentleman
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: I was telling you about, the Native American guy that's
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: on my research team, I recommended it to him and
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: he read it one day, he said. And he said,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: I couldn't put it down. He said, I read it
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: one day and he goes, and he goes, I believe
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: everything in there. He says it. And a lot of
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: this stuff, just from my research that I read in
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: that book rang true, you know, the things I know
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: about Bigfoot and he described in that book, you know,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: rang true to what my beliefs about Bigfoot are. Yeah.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: We need, we need to start a book club. I'm
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: going to do the cryptic hunters book club one day and, uh,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: and get book recommendations on Bigfoot and, you know the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: theories behind it and all that i think that would
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: be a great idea yeah we need to start doing
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: that yeah dean how how many bigfoots do you think
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: are there out in the united states alone and where
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: do you think they live do you think they're living
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: in the cave systems or where where do you think
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: they live when we're not seeing them.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Oh gee i don't know um That's a, that's a
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: huge question. I really have no idea how many Bigfoot
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: there are. I think that there's probably quite more than
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: we think there are. You know, I, I've heard very
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: low ball numbers, you know, from some of the bigger
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: researchers say, Oh, there can't be more than, you know, 10,000
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: in the whole country. There's more than 10,000. There's probably
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: more than 10,000. There's more than 10,000 Bigfoot and probably California. Okay. Um,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: I think they're dispersed pretty, you know, um, not evenly pretty,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: you know, there's, they're few and far between, but I
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: think that they know, um, enough to stay out of
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: our way. And, and, and I think they know where
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: all the other Bigfoot are, you know, um, I think
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: they can, uh, the guy in that book I was
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: talking about, he says that he thinks that they have
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: gatherings every so many years where they all meet or
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: not all of them, but, the ones in the local
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: area will meet and, you know, probably pick mates and,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: and exchange Bigfoot information with whatever they have, you know,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: you know, where all the good, where all the good
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: eats are and all that stuff probably. But anyways, he's,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: he really got that feeling after living with them for
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: so many years that they actually do, you know, get
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: together every so many years. So it's like clockwork. All
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: of a sudden there's more Bigfoot in the area than
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: there were before that. Then the boom, they're gone. And
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: just the local ones are still there. And then boom,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: you'll see new ones come in that you never saw before.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, that's what he was saying. Part
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: of one of the things in the book he was
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: talking about. And that makes sense, you know, because Native
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Americans used to do things like that. The tribes that
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: they were friendly with, they would get together every so
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: many years and, you know, do things like that, you know.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: See who was the eligible, you know, couple they could
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: hook up and everything, you know, to keep the tribes together.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: genetic pool going strong, things like that. Bigfoot probably do
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: something similar to that. But I would not even want
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: to venture a guess of how many Bigfoot there are.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: And it was kind of a trick question because I
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: don't know either.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: I kind of know how many are on my property.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: I really think there are at least four, but I
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: have evidence that there probably is at least four because
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: I know that there has to be a mom and
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: a dad because I saw the young one. Okay. So
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that makes three. And then about maybe six or seven
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: years ago, when my grandson, um, my grandson came up
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: to be here because, uh, PBS was doing, um, a
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: cryptid special and they wanted to shoot on my property. So, uh,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: my grandson came up cause he wanted to see that.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: So they came up and PBS did a segment, um,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: on local cryptids, the local PBS station did. And, uh,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: The day before, I went out with my grandson looking
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: around because I wanted to see if I could find
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: something cool to show him. I just didn't want to say, oh, yeah,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: here's the woods. There's Bigfoot in there. I wanted to
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: see if I could find something. Oh, yeah, here it
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: looks like there might have been something here or whatever.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: And I did find one spot where it looked like
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: it was a Bigfoot blind. But my grandson actually found it.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: My brother hazed the fields near the woods. And he
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: had moved the hay a few days before that, and
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: there was a bald spot on the ground where the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: bale had set for a few weeks until he had
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: moved it. And so the ground was kind of wet there,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: and it was kind of the grass wasn't really growing there.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: And he walked by, and he goes, hey, Pop, look.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: And I came back and looked, and it looked like
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: an infant foot track. There was only two of them,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: but it looked like a baby had stood there. No,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think any human baby was way back there standing.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing it was a baby Bigfoot stood there
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: for a minute or two and left those two tracks.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm guessing there's probably at least four.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: That's fantastic. So they feel safe raising families on your
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: property out there.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I think they may have, but I'm not so sure
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: they do anymore because my nephews have been really running
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: the place ragged here deer hunting the last couple of years.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: And my Bigfoot encounters have gone way down the last
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: couple of years. So I'm thinking they're kind of literally
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: of my nephews being out there all the time. When
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I was just here by myself, I wasn't out there
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: that much. I mean, I deer hunted, but I didn't
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: push it hard.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, one of my favorite stories. that I've
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: heard you talk about was about a woman. It was
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: a couple who had built a cabin in the woods.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: And shortly after they built this cabin, they went out
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: there to retire, I believe, if I'm getting the story right.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: And then the husband died and the woman stayed out
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: there and there was a blizzard. And this blizzard happened
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: and she was kind of stuck in the house. And
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: she started, I think she found a couple of baby
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Bigfoots on her porch.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently they got stuck. That story was going around
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: for like two years, but it was always different when
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: I heard it. The main part of the story was
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: always the same, but it was always different whether it
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: was a couple and they were there together or it
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: was just one person. That was really the only variations
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: in the story. So I didn't tell the story for
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: a long time on my thing because I thought, well,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: you know, that is kind of a he said, she
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: said kind of thing. So I preface it at the
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: beginning of the story. When I tell the story, I
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if the story is true, but I hope
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: it is because it's a nice story. And then I
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: go ahead and tell the story about how she heard
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: noise outside the cabin during this blizzard and opened the
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: door up. And there were two baby, well, not baby, baby,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: but they were very young Bigfoot huddling together on her porch.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: And she brought them in the house and warmed them
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: up and fed them and kept them overnight. And then
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: the next morning, the parents came to the cabin and
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: got them. And then a couple, I think it was
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: a day or two after that, they actually brought her
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: some dried flowers that they found somewhere. The baby Bigfoot
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: brought the flowers to them and gave them to her.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: It was a nice story. So I put it on
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: the channel. But like I said, I didn't. I prefaced
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: it by saying I have no idea if this is
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: true or not. And you'll hear me say that on there.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Once I really kind of have my doubts about it,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: I'll say that. This is a cool story, but I'm
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: not sure if it's true or not. But it's a
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: nice story.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: It was a great story. That was one of my favorites.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some of my favorite stories
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: that I've heard. I remember you were singing a song
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: about fish heads. That was funny.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: I was just being silly. That's an old Dr. Demento song,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: fish heads, roly-poly fish heads. Yeah, I think Billy Mummy
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: actually sang it from Lost in Space. I think he
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: was the one that actually sang that song. Really? Yeah,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: then I told the story about the Native Americans having
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: the fish head fight. Bigfoot coming and cleaning them up later.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, one more thing. I mean, because listen, I
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: could talk to you all night, Dean. I swear, I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: love hearing your stories.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: And all the encounters and all the information you have
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: is just fantastic. Um, but there's something that I've, I've
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: heard you talking about and I've experienced it myself. And, uh,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: and you called it counting coup. And, uh, and that's
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: where potentially I think a Bigfoot might run up and,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: and touch you or, you know, and not be seen. Well, that,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: that happened to me the first time I ever went Bigfooting. And, uh.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: That's an old Native American, um, uh, practice, you know.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: Can you tell us about that?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Well, um, counting coup was, um, kind of a way
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: to prove that you were an honorable warrior during, you know,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: when the Indians were, you know, still waging war against
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: each other and waging war against us, where they would sometimes,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: instead of killing their adversary, they would touch them. Maybe
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: with a stick, maybe with a tomahawk, not hard enough
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: to hurt the person, but they would ride up on
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: their horse and touch them. In fact, I think there's
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: a scene in Dancing with Wolves where they do it,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: one of those movies, there's one of those movies about
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: the native American where they, where they, they show a
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: guy doing that. It was considered a brave, something brave
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: to do. And it's other cultures did similar things to
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: that too. And sometimes they would kidnap somebody, an enemy
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: or an adversary, and they would hold them for a
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: day or two. And then they would make a big
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: deal of returning them. You know, see, we're not that
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: bad of people. We, we had him, we could have
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: hurt him, but we didn't kind of thing. And I, I,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: was told the story about the guy, he baked an
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: apple pie for the Bigfoot and left it in the woods.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: And he went back later to check and see if
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: it was gone. And on the way back, something kept
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: touching him on the way back, you know, and it
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: kind of made me think of the counting coup. And
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: I've had other Bigfoot researchers say where they have been
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: touched in the dark, you know, by some, you know,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: and I actually counted coup a Bigfoot one time by accident,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: but it was, I ran into it, but it was, um,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: something I thought was, it just made me think of that.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: The counting Kula thing made me think of that experience.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: So that's why I told that story and started it
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: off by talking about counting Kula.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: I can appreciate it because I had an incident where
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: I was actually Being Bigfoot bait, Dean. I love being
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot bait.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: And I was sent up to go walk up a
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: hill by myself. And the guys stayed back at the
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: bottom watching me with their night vision and their thermals.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: And I had to go walk up to a tree
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: line or something like that. And I got about halfway
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: up and something ran up behind me. I thought it
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: was one of the guys about to scare me. And
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: I heard them running. And when they got right up
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: to me, instead of them grabbing me and saying boo,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: like I thought they were going to do, Uh, something
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: just kicked, like it kind of sweat my legs out
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: from underneath me from behind and they kept running and
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: I could, I felt the wind. I, my legs got
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: knocked out from underneath me, my feet. And then it's
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: like my hair moved and everything. Like it was wild. And, uh,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: and I looked over and there was nobody there, but
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: I could hear them. I could hear them running. I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: could feel the energy from it.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: It was wild.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and I always, I look back on that
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: today and I'm, I always look back on that and
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I think that some, something
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: was out there being initiated And then they were initiating
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: me into the Bigfoot world. That's what I felt.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Almost that same exact spot where I had my first
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot encounter. A friend of mine called me and told
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: me his dog had come up missing. And he asked
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: me to come help him look for it. And so
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: I said, okay. I said, well, I'll go over to
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: where the logging road is, which was right kind of
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: where I was that day when I saw the Bigfoot.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: This was like a year or two later after I'd
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: seen it. And I says, I'll go there and I'll
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: walk the logging road all the way over to your
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: property line and I'll call for the dog. And if
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: it's there, it'll come to me because the dog knew me.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: So then he would come to me. So I got
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: over there and I decided it wasn't a good idea
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: to park on the logging road because it was after
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: deer season and I didn't want the game warden to
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: think I was in there jacking deer. So I left
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: my car down the road and I walked across the
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: hayfield and into the woods. And the wind was kind
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: of coming into my face as I was walking down
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: through there. So I was downwind of anything that I
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: was walking toward. And I walked through this brush and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: I ran right into something. I mean, I can't say
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  Speaker 1: it was a Bigfoot, but I think I ran into
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  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot. I mean, I ran right into it and went, bam.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, and I thought I ran into
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: a person. And I thought, well, did he make it
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: all the way down here already? I thought maybe it
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: was him. And it turned around and it went. And
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I go, who's there? And it walked away. So I
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: think maybe I touched one in the dark by accident.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see it. It was too dark. It was
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  Speaker 1: too dark. And I was right in the middle of
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: the brush. And I think it must have heard me coming.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: But the only thing I could think of was maybe
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: there was more than one of them there. And it
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  Speaker 1: thought I was the other one coming up behind it
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  Speaker 1: or her. And I ran right. I mean, it was hard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I hit that thing hard, too. I was
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  Speaker 1: on full boogie and across that field when I ran
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  Speaker 1: into it. I just hit the brush line when I
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  Speaker 1: ran into it. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of anybody doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, I've never heard of anybody doing it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even sure I did it. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 1: for a fact that I did it, but I hit
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  Speaker 1: something and it was alive. At first I thought, was
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: that a deer? I go, a deer went away. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, your rational brain goes into overdrive,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: doesn't it? And it's like, you got to think of
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: all the things that can happen. It's like when I,
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  Speaker 2: when I got my legs swept out from behind me
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  Speaker 2: from some invisible person or creature, I thought I had
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: stepped in a hole or I, a limb had hit
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: my leg or I tripped over a log. Like I, I, everything, everything,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: but an invisible person went through my mind. Anything, but.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a, I don't have Bigfoot on
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: the brain. Like they say, you know, I don't think everything,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think everything that moves, I don't ever think
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: every little sound I hear is a Bigfoot. I still
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: have the rational mind where I try to make out
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: what else it could be. Oh, is it a deer?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Or is it this? Is it that, that? And then
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of times your conclusion comes to it. No,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: it was a Bigfoot. You know, when you eliminate the improbable,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: what's left is the truth. I know I'm misquoting the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes thing there, but it was like, when you
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: eliminate the impossible, the only thing that's left is the truth.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: Something like that he used to say. And so that's
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: what I tried to do. And a lot of times
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: you have to come to the conclusion, hey, that was
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the last thing you want to think it
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: is sometimes. And yeah, it's like process of elimination. It's
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: got to be something rational. Can't be a Bigfoot. Cause
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you go out in the woods and
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: some people you're with everything, they think everything's a Bigfoot.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: You gotta be like, Nope, it's not a Bigfoot.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Not everything's a dog, man. If you go looking for
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: a UFO, everything's UFO. If you're looking for a dog, man,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: everything's a dog, man. If you're looking for Bigfoot, everything's
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: a Bigfoot, but it's really not. But sometimes it is.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it is.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it is. It is.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. It sounds like the odds are
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: in your favor up there. You're probably going to have
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: a Bigfoot encounter around where you live, Dean. And I
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed having you here on the show tonight.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Well, hey, I enjoyed being there. I'm sorry about the lighting,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: but I explained that to you. I'm at the camp,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: and all I got is a little small lantern, and
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: I got candles.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just glad you're here. I don't have power here.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: You know what you have, you have a internet there
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: and it's all we need tonight. And, uh, we can
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: still see you and, uh, we can definitely hear you
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: loud and clear. So, uh, so this is just absolutely wonderful. Uh,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: before we go tonight, tell us about your research group,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Seaway Valley, Bigfoot research. And, uh, what do you guys
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: have going on and where can people find you online?
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: We have a Facebook page, which is a big, just
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: called Seaway Valley, Bigfoot research. Um, we aren't very serious
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: on that page. We post a lot of memes. I
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: do post things that I find that I, I feel
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: are interesting. In fact, we, um, I think we lost
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to be on, um, um, expedition unknown because
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: of our Facebook page. Um, yeah, I think he thought
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: we were just being silly in it because he called
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: me and wanted me, wanted me to go on the,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: on the thing with him. And I was like, okay.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, He said, do you have a Facebook page?
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: And I said, yeah. And then after that, I never
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: heard from him again. So I think I might've come. So,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: so don't judge us by our Facebook page. Okay.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: So take things too serious.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: We don't take things real serious on our Facebook page,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: but I do, I do try to post interesting things
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: or interesting memes or whatever I find on there. And, um,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: but we're there. You can contact me through there. If
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: you want to just message me on there. And I
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: try to get back to you as quick as I can.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: I also do have, uh, a Tik TOK account here,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: which I'm a big foot man, 1963 on, on Tik TOK. And, uh,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: I try to come on at least once a week
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: or every once every couple of weeks, if I can't,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: if I don't have the time. And I try to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: tell an interesting big foot story that's happened to me
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: or has happened to one of my friends or has
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: happened to somebody that I've talked to, or maybe one
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: that I just heard online or I heard from another
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: researcher that, And I tell them on my own style.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: I don't try to be too technical. I don't try
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: to be too precise. You know, I don't give out
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: names or anything. I'll say, you know, a lot of
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: times I do no names, but I don't put anybody's
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: name out there because I don't know if people want
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: to be bothered or not. So I just, I try
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: to tell the story in an interesting way. I don't
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: add to it. I know I tell this a lot
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: of times I subtract to it because I don't want
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: people to think it was too outrageous. Because some of
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: the stories I hear are pretty outrageous sometimes. So sometimes
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I might subtract a little bit to it to make
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: it a little bit more, sound a little more palatable.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: But I try to make them interesting. And my feedback
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: I usually get is pretty good. People, I think, enjoy it.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: I don't get a whole heck of a lot of views,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: but I'm not looking for views. I'm just looking for
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: something to do to entertain people that want to see it. And,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: you know, it's something I enjoy. Well, you know what?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: That's how I found you, Dean. I found you through TikTok. Okay.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: So I appreciate it. I love your TikTok. I think
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: it's great. And I appreciate all the stories you put out.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: And it keeps me entertained for sure. And I'm sure
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: we'll have a whole bunch more people following you over
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: on TikTok from here on out for sure. And so, wow.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you so much, Dean. This has just
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: been great.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, thank you very much for having me. I've
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: learned a lot.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. I have definitely learned a lot. And so y'all
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: please go over to Seaway Valley Bigfoot research on Facebook.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: He's got a Facebook group. Y'all go join it and,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: and follow Dean Bigfoot man is at Bigfoot man, 1963
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: on Tik TOK today. And Dean, please come back and
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: see me again. Will you come back and share some
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: more stories?
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Sure. Anytime. Okay. Wonderful. Wonderful.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you again so much. And before we go tonight,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: I want to thank all of you guys are, All
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: the support. Thank you all so much in the chat tonight. Pops,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: Gary Spikes, thank you so much for the super sticker.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: And Amariel Angel, thank you for that as well, for
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: the super sticker. And I want to thank all my
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: moderators and everybody. who stuck with us for the show tonight.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: Thank y'all so much for being here. And I hope
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: everybody learned a little something tonight or a lot of somethings.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess y'all come back and see me
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: on Monday. I'll be here live Monday at 1 p.m.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: Eastern here on the Cryptid Hunters channel. All right, Mr.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Dean Gleason, take care. Be safe tonight out there in
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: your cabin.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Wonderful.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: It was great meeting you, Dean. And we will have
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: you back on the show soon.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: Please stay in touch with me.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: We'll keep in touch.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody have a great night and I will see you
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: guys back here on Monday.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: All right, everybody.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: You