Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NFL Week 11 Main Slate | November 17, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's going clear the left on what's up everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberlaine here aka Totagg and Tambo back for another
- 0:40Speaker 1: edition of the Sunday main Slate show week eleven ahead,
- 0:43Speaker 1: eleven games actually on the slate as well. Got Hoopster
- 0:46Speaker 1: title here with me as always and hoop gonna bring
- 0:48Speaker 1: you in first. Man, another free money Sunday, as our
- 0:50Speaker 1: boy title likes to say. Excited for this one. It's
- 0:52Speaker 1: a difficult slate, I think for many trying to put
- 0:55Speaker 1: it together, not a lot of values all that, but
- 0:57Speaker 1: we'll get to it. What's going on, man, how you doing?
- 0:59Speaker 2: Hopefully it's just free? Is the Jake Paul money on
- 1:02Speaker 2: Friday Night? That was? That was fun to inject rate
- 1:04Speaker 2: into the pocket for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'll take some
- 1:08Speaker 2: more free money. I mean that that was a fun moe.
- 1:10Speaker 2: We nailed it and a lot of people on our
- 1:12Speaker 2: team made some nice money on the Jake Paul flight,
- 1:15Speaker 2: which was I don't know, probably the most predictable thing
- 1:17Speaker 2: of all time. Guess it's easier to say in hindsight,
- 1:19Speaker 2: but it ended up playing out exactly how we thought.
- 1:22Speaker 2: So today hopefully it's the same in regards to the slate,
- 1:27Speaker 2: you know, nothing really clear, like in terms of what
- 1:30Speaker 2: you want to do, like stacking wise, roster construction, I'd
- 1:34Speaker 2: say pretty wide open. I mean the running back position.
- 1:36Speaker 2: There's a lot of plays we want to play, but
- 1:38Speaker 2: I think you know where the big decision making is
- 1:41Speaker 2: today is like what quarterbacks you play? How do you
- 1:43Speaker 2: stack them? A lot of it's nasty growth stuff, so
- 1:47Speaker 2: it should be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised to see
- 1:49Speaker 2: something off the wall kind of kind of ship today.
- 1:52Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll talk through it all, go game by game.
- 1:55Speaker 2: I guess the one big piece of news that we
- 1:57Speaker 2: got this morning is George Kittle out, and I guess
- 2:00Speaker 2: it's not necessarily like you know, the Eric Sauberte or
- 2:04Speaker 2: however you pronounce hisn't not necessarily him. But it's like
- 2:07Speaker 2: McCaffrey gets a boost, Debo gets a boost, John Jennings
- 2:10Speaker 2: gets a boost, and those stacks become a little bit
- 2:13Speaker 2: easier as well with perty. So that's the one piece
- 2:16Speaker 2: of news not really waiting on much else. Been a
- 2:18Speaker 2: pretty clean week in regards to news, which is kind
- 2:22Speaker 2: of wild for Week eleven of the NFL season. I
- 2:25Speaker 2: guess the only thing kind of waiting on is Amari Cooper,
- 2:27Speaker 2: But it sounds like he's gonna play and it's not
- 2:29Speaker 2: really Slate breaking news if you were to were to
- 2:34Speaker 2: sit out so pretty clean, we can you know, talk
- 2:37Speaker 2: through it and you know kind of kind of nail
- 2:39Speaker 2: it down here this morning.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yeah, this is certainly the hope shut up to our guy,
- 2:43Speaker 1: Rob easy Slate. When you got the nation, We're gonna
- 2:44Speaker 1: try and make that happen for you. We'll bring up
- 2:46Speaker 1: the stone obviously. If you guys are just joining us
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- 2:58Speaker 1: to get on that now. We'll have more details on
- 3:00Speaker 1: that as we get just a little bit closer. Title
- 3:03Speaker 1: Bring you in, Mandy. Did you get any of that
- 3:04Speaker 1: free cheese on Friday night?
- 3:06Speaker 3: I did.
- 3:07Speaker 4: I got some free cheese Friday night thanks to mom
- 3:09Speaker 4: Man Hoo Big Marley on our Thursday MMA show. Big
- 3:12Speaker 4: Marley touted it pretty highly. He kept firing I know
- 3:15Speaker 4: who tweeted it out, So that was nice to get. Yeah,
- 3:19Speaker 4: excited for this week eleven slates. Do not forget FanDuel. Obviously,
- 3:23Speaker 4: they always have the Sunday night game that's gonna play
- 3:25Speaker 4: a big role tonight on FANDO, one of the better games.
- 3:28Speaker 4: If it was on DraftKings would be one of the
- 3:29Speaker 4: best games on the slate, So do not forget about that.
- 3:32Speaker 4: And then it's really obvious what the field wants to do.
- 3:35Speaker 4: Jam expensive running backs because they're still too cheap even
- 3:38Speaker 4: though they're expensive when you jam the Kamaraes McCaffrey's the
- 3:41Speaker 4: chains of the world. Obviously, we play a salary game.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Most people are saving at quarterback, most people are saving
- 3:47Speaker 4: to the mid tier at receiver, and pretty much saving
- 3:49Speaker 4: at tight end unless they're clicking Travis Kelcey and in
- 3:52Speaker 4: those bills. I think it's going to be two tight
- 3:54Speaker 4: end builds. Talk to it on the Cash Show. Kelsey's
- 3:57Speaker 4: still in that like price as a receiver whide receiver
- 4:00Speaker 4: two as a clear wide receiver one. So I think
- 4:03Speaker 4: it's a pretty easy say pay up at running back.
- 4:05Speaker 4: Everyone's doing they're paying out in other spots. Do you
- 4:07Speaker 4: want to leverage the build like we talk about, It's
- 4:09Speaker 4: really clear how to do.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So, Yeah, and also got a shot at our boy
- 4:13Speaker 1: Big Marley that he was winning a whole mortgage. He said,
- 4:16Speaker 1: put no, not the mortgage, the actual house. I think
- 4:18Speaker 1: he was putting on it on Friday night. So congrats
- 4:20Speaker 1: Tom for that. Went out and did his job again
- 4:22Speaker 1: last night. This guy just crushes you and him both title. Obviously,
- 4:25Speaker 1: all of our team doesn't just talk the talk, they
- 4:28Speaker 1: walked the walk. He went out and got an MMA
- 4:30Speaker 1: Live Final seat and had the second best lineup in
- 4:32Speaker 1: the main almost close to a big chop up there.
- 4:34Speaker 2: I was with him on that one too. That was frustrating. Yeah, man,
- 4:38Speaker 2: I didn't know how many people it was like a
- 4:40Speaker 2: team that would have left, like a lot of I
- 4:42Speaker 2: left a lot of salary on most of my teams.
- 4:44Speaker 2: The team that one must have left, I don't know,
- 4:45Speaker 2: probably like a thousand, so, I mean it was ended
- 4:48Speaker 2: up being a two way shot. But I had that
- 4:49Speaker 2: second team right there at Marley two, which you know,
- 4:52Speaker 2: it's all right, we'll get to the top. We've had
- 4:54Speaker 2: a lot of success in them. Man. A good big
- 4:55Speaker 2: weekend for Big Marley. I mean hit the Jake Paul
- 4:57Speaker 2: fight and then the Live final, and we talked about
- 5:00Speaker 2: it all the time. I mean guys like that just
- 5:02Speaker 2: grind their ass off, grind their ass off, pick up
- 5:04Speaker 2: their wins along the way. Absolutely love to see it.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best part. And real quick, just want
- 5:10Speaker 1: to remind people because you know, get this out of
- 5:11Speaker 1: the way early. But we did put the flash sail
- 5:14Speaker 1: out on Friday as well. It's still going so if
- 5:16Speaker 1: you want to get it on the action at ship
- 5:18Speaker 1: a Nation, you would have had UFC three zero nine
- 5:20Speaker 1: and all the content, all the big win. Saw Rusty
- 5:22Speaker 1: ran like one hundred bucks up to five thousand and
- 5:24Speaker 1: two in the streets last night. So lots of people
- 5:26Speaker 1: making money in NBA, NHL, all the other sports that
- 5:28Speaker 1: are going on. But you're here for football. But the
- 5:30Speaker 1: code is NBA fifty. It was celebrating titles big NBA
- 5:34Speaker 1: win the other night for forty five K. Congrats again
- 5:36Speaker 1: on that. But you get your first month of all access.
- 5:40Speaker 1: So if you go to the site, I'm just gonna
- 5:41Speaker 1: pop this back down for two seconds to let the
- 5:43Speaker 1: people know you click join the Nation, you're going sixty
- 5:46Speaker 1: nine dollars down to thirty four to fifty if you
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- 5:56Speaker 1: and then if you want the other one, it's forty
- 5:58Speaker 1: nine to fifty for your first month, you here to
- 6:00Speaker 1: monthly ninety nine and again just put in the code
- 6:02Speaker 1: NBA fifty and you'll be good to go. You'll also
- 6:05Speaker 1: get access to the stone, which will always put off
- 6:08Speaker 1: for the top. Like I said, we get the four
- 6:09Speaker 1: hundred likes, we'll bring it back. But let's start here title.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I'll go to you first Grand scheme overview for this slate,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you kind of just hit on. Is there anything else
- 6:17Speaker 1: that you would have to add to that?
- 6:18Speaker 2: Just you know, just.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Overall from roster instructure you hit on already, but anything else.
- 6:23Speaker 3: It's man by.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Good luck finding the stack you want to play again.
- 6:26Speaker 4: I think that's where it can start with a lot
- 6:28Speaker 4: of people.
- 6:28Speaker 3: If you feel really good.
- 6:29Speaker 4: About Josh Allen or Jamis Winston or Aaron Rodgers, whatever
- 6:34Speaker 4: name you feel good about it, it will be really easy
- 6:36Speaker 4: to get over the field on those stacks. I'm going
- 6:39Speaker 4: to be concentrated pretty much at the running back position.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I have a couple of pivots off the chalk. But
- 6:44Speaker 4: like McCaffrey should be ten k this week, if not more,
- 6:47Speaker 4: Kamara should be ninety four hundred. It change should be
- 6:50Speaker 4: eighty three hundred. So while they are expensive, they're still
- 6:53Speaker 4: too cheap. NFL is not a sport you just want
- 6:55Speaker 4: to fade all that. You don't want just single digit
- 6:57Speaker 4: owned players in every single one of your spots, just
- 7:00Speaker 4: like NBA. That's a mistake, whereas maybe golf that is
- 7:03Speaker 4: something you can do. So you got to eat some chalk.
- 7:06Speaker 4: But I think there is leverage points and roster construction
- 7:09Speaker 4: right away. If you want to pay up for a receiver,
- 7:11Speaker 4: a Justin Jefferson of sorts or whatever you want to do,
- 7:14Speaker 4: pay up for a tight end, there is ways you
- 7:16Speaker 4: can do that. But yeah, I think that's a broad
- 7:19Speaker 4: slide over read One other thing I wanted to say.
- 7:21Speaker 4: If you're in chip Nation discord, well, I love how
- 7:23Speaker 4: we have it some sites. If you get tagged like
- 7:26Speaker 4: they'll take you for every sport you could care less
- 7:28Speaker 4: about NASCAR, and they're gonna tell you about NASCAR.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Some people don't know.
- 7:32Speaker 4: But if you go to notifications in our discord, whatever
- 7:35Speaker 4: you play, you click that sport, you will be tagged
- 7:38Speaker 4: just for that sport you play NHL for needs, he'll
- 7:41Speaker 4: tag you and his stuff goes up, a goalie gets scratch, etc.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Yesterday big news in them and they I'll shut out
- 7:46Speaker 4: my guy SIGGI. It wasn't even me, he texted me.
- 7:49Speaker 4: No one else in the industry was even close to
- 7:51Speaker 4: that news. I personally didn't get it. Four minutes is
- 7:54Speaker 4: really tough. I was driving some did Big Marley did he?
- 7:57Speaker 4: Global Haight swapped that helped him. I know who did some.
- 8:00Speaker 4: So fortifications is really big in our discord.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely huge information too, because everyone around the industry
- 8:06Speaker 2: still played the canceled fight, I mean, and we had
- 8:08Speaker 2: the news with you know, a little bit of time
- 8:10Speaker 2: to go. I was fortunate enough to get in there
- 8:12Speaker 2: and make the changes that I couldn't rerun. Everything did
- 8:16Speaker 2: the same thing, just Global swapped, and I don't even
- 8:18Speaker 2: know if it really worked my advantage because I ended
- 8:20Speaker 2: up getting a ton of that hasa or whatever the
- 8:23Speaker 2: fuck that guy's name is zero better than zero. I'll
- 8:26Speaker 2: take the eight or nine over the zero for sure.
- 8:29Speaker 2: But it was its valuable news. And these guys are
- 8:32Speaker 2: absolutely grinding, not just our team, you know, our members
- 8:36Speaker 2: as well, and they're looking to help. And if you
- 8:39Speaker 2: were in the MMA discord before before the like tipped
- 8:42Speaker 2: off yesterday, I gave away some tickets too, Like I said,
- 8:45Speaker 2: in honor of all the success I've had because of
- 8:47Speaker 2: the content that Title Marley put up and gave away
- 8:50Speaker 2: ten twenty five dollars tickets and hopefully the winners of
- 8:54Speaker 2: those tickets were able to parlay that money into some winnings.
- 8:57Speaker 2: But it's a great community, man, I mean, that's what
- 8:59Speaker 2: it's all about. The community. Do you feel And you know,
- 9:01Speaker 2: I'm confident to say our community best in the industry,
- 9:04Speaker 2: most helpful for sure in the industry. So, you know,
- 9:08Speaker 2: very excited about that. But yeah, thanks to Siggy for
- 9:10Speaker 2: getting that news out.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing to lose. Check it out, NBA fifty who
- 9:13Speaker 1: before you give your grand scheme, I'm gonna bring this
- 9:15Speaker 1: one up and give mine. I think what Title said
- 9:18Speaker 1: is correct, and you know, you kind of know exactly
- 9:20Speaker 1: that's what we want going into dfs. We always talk
- 9:22Speaker 1: about this. It's not about knowing the picks and plays
- 9:24Speaker 1: that's the end result of these winning lineups, But you
- 9:27Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with the slates so
- 9:28Speaker 1: you can know how to attack it up against the
- 9:30Speaker 1: field of DFS players, which is what we're all about,
- 9:33Speaker 1: that example of ours. I think everybody is in the
- 9:36Speaker 1: right places today. I just fear that everyone's gonna be
- 9:39Speaker 1: myself included potentially on some of the wrong pieces. You're
- 9:42Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, I knew it was this game. I
- 9:44Speaker 1: knew it was that quarterback. I knew it was this spot.
- 9:47Speaker 1: But it ends up being different pieces within it. So
- 9:49Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be very careful when building out
- 9:51Speaker 1: those lineups. But I think when we review the winners tomorrow,
- 9:54Speaker 1: we're going to see that everybody was in the right
- 9:56Speaker 1: places and some of the options were just quite different
- 9:59Speaker 1: than what you thought.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, I mean it's the clear spot. I
- 10:02Speaker 2: mean everyone's gonna be going cheap at tight end. There's
- 10:04Speaker 2: not a ton of value on this slate. I mean
- 10:06Speaker 2: there's very limited value. The running backs. I would consider
- 10:11Speaker 2: them value, but they're expensive, Like they're too cheap in
- 10:14Speaker 2: terms of just raw cheap plays on the slate. It's
- 10:17Speaker 2: only at tight end. So I get the point, and
- 10:20Speaker 2: for sure I'm gonna have some of that too, like
- 10:22Speaker 2: I am playing. When we get to the Miami game.
- 10:24Speaker 2: I am playing some Miami stacks, and in those Miami stacks,
- 10:26Speaker 2: I do want guys like Bowers in there as well,
- 10:29Speaker 2: because man, if those cheap tight ends tank like it's
- 10:33Speaker 2: it's just gonna take one big game from a tight
- 10:35Speaker 2: end and you're gonna need them. So I get that point,
- 10:37Speaker 2: and you know, I kind of I like to play
- 10:39Speaker 2: a lot and those will get there. I think the
- 10:41Speaker 2: ownership on those more expensive tight ends in the industry
- 10:44Speaker 2: is showing a little higher than it's actually gonna because
- 10:46Speaker 2: you start building out these teams and the salary drives
- 10:50Speaker 2: up rather quickly because we just don't have a ton
- 10:53Speaker 2: of super cheap options.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Yeah, like that was an example. That's why I give
- 10:56Speaker 1: the Bowers one instead of Myers. If it's Tyreek instead
- 10:58Speaker 1: of a chan if it's back to the well at
- 11:00Speaker 1: NBS your boy from last week for those that didn't
- 11:03Speaker 1: get to follow up on that one yet. But we'll
- 11:05Speaker 1: get there. Let's let's start this thing off, Hoop and
- 11:07Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with you. The first game is up
- 11:08Speaker 1: on the screen, the Packers at the Bears. If you
- 11:11Speaker 1: guys want to keep the stone up right. Now, we've
- 11:13Speaker 1: got about one hundred and fifty likes, got to get
- 11:15Speaker 1: to four hundred. We'll bring it back, but we'll leave
- 11:17Speaker 1: it up for this first game. Who Packers Bears go ahead?
- 11:20Speaker 2: Seems like every show we've done this year, the first
- 11:23Speaker 2: game has been like one of the more appealing. We
- 11:24Speaker 2: end up spending a lot of time breaking it down.
- 11:26Speaker 2: This is going to be a little bit different this
- 11:28Speaker 2: time around. And it's unfortunate that title just pulled the
- 11:32Speaker 2: hoopster and walked away, because it's going to be heading
- 11:34Speaker 2: his way here pretty quickly. Because I don't know if
- 11:37Speaker 2: I'm playing anything here, Like the Bears look like absolute shit.
- 11:40Speaker 2: They're at home now. You know, A seven basically a
- 11:44Speaker 2: touchdown underdog to the Packers. Can't play everything. I mean,
- 11:49Speaker 2: you just can't play everything. Packers has been a very
- 11:51Speaker 2: difficult I know Nads is going to be in here
- 11:53Speaker 2: stroking his Packers within like ten seconds. He's probably typing
- 11:56Speaker 2: up the cot. He's probably typing up the comment right now. Yep, yep.
- 11:59Speaker 2: There it is going to be. Maids is going to
- 12:01Speaker 2: be he has something fireing, but it's like I just
- 12:04Speaker 2: I don't see it. It's been a difficult team to
- 12:06Speaker 2: stack all season long. You really haven't needed them to
- 12:09Speaker 2: win tournaments. Going into Chicago is typically a difficult spot
- 12:14Speaker 2: to play, you know, if doing anything, maybe Jaden Reid, yeah,
- 12:21Speaker 2: there it is, keep it going, Bud, you got better
- 12:24Speaker 2: than wrong and unbelievable. I know they got something. You
- 12:26Speaker 2: can add some more words of that ship, but you know,
- 12:29Speaker 2: maybe Jayden Reid, it's just going to be nothing. And
- 12:31Speaker 2: I mean I'd be willing like any sort of side.
- 12:34Speaker 2: But if Nate's is in here, whatever you want to do,
- 12:36Speaker 2: I will bet that the Packers are not a part
- 12:39Speaker 2: of the winning formula today. Like there's just it's just
- 12:41Speaker 2: not going to happen. I'm out on this game.
- 12:44Speaker 5: Stroking his packer, someone said, stroking the packer the discord
- 12:51Speaker 5: core that always comes out with it. Yeah, it usually
- 12:53Speaker 5: he's got good reason. Today he said, no, he's not
- 12:55Speaker 5: getting there. No comments for the rest of the show.
- 12:57Speaker 5: You really got them pissed off.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Now is the off on he's not playing then to
- 13:01Speaker 2: be playing.
- 13:01Speaker 1: It as he said, you're wrong on it. So anything
- 13:05Speaker 1: to add here, I guess I'll quickly give Mine would
- 13:07Speaker 1: be Jacobs. But there's so many running backs on this slate.
- 13:11Speaker 1: I do, though, think these defenses are in play, and
- 13:14Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm looking at here.
- 13:15Speaker 4: One hundred percent Jacobs and Packers D's pretty much the
- 13:18Speaker 4: only thing for me. Jacobs is the one of the
- 13:21Speaker 4: running back pivots I'm looking at right in the chain
- 13:23Speaker 4: range saves the one kofa Kamara and McCaffrey if you
- 13:27Speaker 4: want to go that route. Bear's D hasn't been great.
- 13:30Speaker 4: They're almost touched on favorites and the props are solid
- 13:33Speaker 4: seventy four and a half yards minus one thirty five
- 13:35Speaker 4: to score, like, why couldn't he get twenty eight today?
- 13:39Speaker 4: And I'll score one of them at a fraction of
- 13:41Speaker 4: the ownership With Caleb, I mean, the old line and
- 13:43Speaker 4: Cale Williams has been awful. Packers D get after him,
- 13:47Speaker 4: make mistakes, Jacob's capitalizes.
- 13:49Speaker 3: They played from the lead. I can see it working.
- 13:51Speaker 4: So really just those two and they're gonna be low owned,
- 13:53Speaker 4: so it's not like you need a bunch of them.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's correct. And I also think
- 13:58Speaker 1: back to your FanDuel talk. Just because it is I'm
- 14:00Speaker 1: playing VANDUAL today, I like it a little bit more
- 14:01Speaker 1: because of that sin CLA game like you talked about
- 14:03Speaker 1: the round up the slate on Sunday Night Football, which
- 14:05Speaker 1: is great because we'll have a slight clan up for
- 14:08Speaker 1: that tonight too. Showdown. You know, it's always a good one.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Tonight should be solid as well. But Jacobs is pretty
- 14:12Speaker 1: much free over there. For example, McCaffrey's like two k
- 14:15Speaker 1: more over there, almost Jacobs is three hundred dollars more.
- 14:18Speaker 1: You get ten k more in salary to use and
- 14:20Speaker 1: fill up the same spot.
- 14:22Speaker 2: So for me, I know why you're playing FanDuel. There's
- 14:24Speaker 2: a quarterback that's substantially cheaper on FanDuel than on DK
- 14:28Speaker 2: that we'll touch on in the afternoon games. I know
- 14:30Speaker 2: why you're over there.
- 14:31Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll get there. We'll get there.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Don't give away at all, Hoop, this is a good one.
- 14:35Speaker 1: We're gonna stay with you cause our guy af Gator
- 14:38Speaker 1: Jag shut up to you. You know, the Jag is
- 14:40Speaker 1: on there for a reason. Are the Lions gonna get
- 14:42Speaker 1: my coach fired today? And Hoop, those are your Lions.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's the next game up on the slate and they
- 14:47Speaker 1: are two touchdown favorites at home.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that guy still has a
- 14:51Speaker 2: coaching job. It's wild to me. I mean, a team
- 14:54Speaker 2: that was supposed to be pretty good and they are
- 14:56Speaker 2: like the worst in the in the NFL. It's it's
- 14:59Speaker 2: pretty insane. He's definitely got something on the on the
- 15:02Speaker 2: upper management because man, it's it's been rough and he
- 15:06Speaker 2: sucks and the team sucks. I mean, the Lions massive
- 15:08Speaker 2: favorites difficult because we know what they want to do,
- 15:13Speaker 2: Like they're going to take an ugly win here, like
- 15:16Speaker 2: you know, twenty eight to seven or something like that
- 15:18Speaker 2: and be happy with it. Nothing to really prove offensively.
- 15:22Speaker 2: We know this. The Lion's offense is one of the
- 15:24Speaker 2: best in the NFL. It know makes it somewhat difficult,
- 15:28Speaker 2: and say for fantasy purposes, but I mean at the
- 15:31Speaker 2: end of the slate today, like if if Jamier Gibbs
- 15:35Speaker 2: is needed or David Montgomery's needed, you wouldn't be surprised.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I mean, both these guys have probably three touchdown upside today.
- 15:42Speaker 2: So definitely going to have these running backs in the mix.
- 15:46Speaker 2: You know, mon Ross Saint Brown, there's not many spends
- 15:48Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. I think he definitely gets
- 15:52Speaker 2: squeezed a little bit. We're not showing crazy ownership on them,
- 15:54Speaker 2: but it could be really really low. You know, what's
- 15:57Speaker 2: the likelihood this game staying competitive? And I mean Lyons
- 16:01Speaker 2: kind of do weird things though, Like you looked what
- 16:03Speaker 2: they did with Dallas. I know that was a little
- 16:04Speaker 2: bit of you know, we're gonna get you to embarrassing
- 16:07Speaker 2: type situation. They probably don't necessarily want to do that,
- 16:09Speaker 2: but occasionally they'll just keep going forward and put up
- 16:12Speaker 2: points like I don't think it's likely today, but there's
- 16:15Speaker 2: a chance, and I'll have some Saint Brown. I think
- 16:18Speaker 2: Jamison Williams is a fine option, but that's really about it.
- 16:23Speaker 2: And I can be stacking the Lions. It's Gibbs Montgomery,
- 16:27Speaker 2: a little bit of Saint Brown because I think he's
- 16:29Speaker 2: really low owned, a little bit of Jamison. It could
- 16:31Speaker 2: just take a couple of plays, definitely the defense and
- 16:35Speaker 2: I'm not playing I'm not playing Jacksonville. I mean, maybe
- 16:38Speaker 2: a little Evan Ingram if needed. But you know this
- 16:42Speaker 2: could be just an absolute ass kicking. Yeah.
- 16:44Speaker 1: The one thing title I'll kick it to do you
- 16:46Speaker 1: on this is, you know a couple of things. One
- 16:47Speaker 1: these when people have to pick between a running back,
- 16:49Speaker 1: they don't like it, even though for me, it's like,
- 16:51Speaker 1: just wherever I land sweet, I'll take it. They're gonna smash.
- 16:54Speaker 1: That's what they want to do. That's their game plan.
- 16:56Speaker 1: It is interesting from that perspective, so it at least
- 16:58Speaker 1: holds them in check. You have Gibbs, he was one
- 17:00Speaker 1: hundred dollars more than a cham We know what that means.
- 17:02Speaker 1: You have Montgomery, who's just not in that range where
- 17:04Speaker 1: people either going up or they're staying up and putting
- 17:07Speaker 1: a second tight end, or they're staying up and putting
- 17:09Speaker 1: estimate who will get too later or something. They're just
- 17:11Speaker 1: not really landing there. And oh, they're gonna play them
- 17:14Speaker 1: ten to fifteen percent. I got on both these guys.
- 17:16Speaker 1: I think that's about accurate. I'm fine with landing on
- 17:18Speaker 1: either of them. The one thing that Mayo talk to
- 17:20Speaker 1: me about on Friday, though, His thought was what if
- 17:22Speaker 1: they let Goff go off just to get right for him.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I know it's not usually their game plan, to Hoop's point,
- 17:27Speaker 1: but sometimes Campbell's kind of liked that. And a Manra
- 17:30Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. You got Laporta out, so it's bright. I mean,
- 17:33Speaker 1: people are talking about Zilstra, but it Brock rights there
- 17:36Speaker 1: it's just it's harder to stack it up and feel
- 17:38Speaker 1: good with the way we have this slate. But I
- 17:40Speaker 1: could certainly see it. And last time people ignored the
- 17:42Speaker 1: Lions in a similar spot like this, they had their
- 17:45Speaker 1: team total crushed by the half with thirty one or
- 17:48Speaker 1: thirty four points or whatever it was, didn't end up
- 17:51Speaker 1: fully needing it. But give us your thoughts on this
- 17:52Speaker 1: one title.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's really interesting because Lions by far the
- 17:57Speaker 4: highest team total on the slate by like three points
- 17:59Speaker 4: at thirty, but the Jags have been awful. They're big
- 18:02Speaker 4: thirteen point favorites. Also, the thing about Dan campbellon the
- 18:06Speaker 4: Lions if they get up by a lot in games
- 18:07Speaker 4: like this. They did it against the Packers too. What
- 18:10Speaker 4: o' lineman wants to try and get a touchdown today?
- 18:12Speaker 4: What full back like? What guy off the street? Which
- 18:15Speaker 4: is not good for dfs. But the running backs, I'm
- 18:18Speaker 4: only gonna be playing the running backs on Detroit Max one,
- 18:21Speaker 4: of course, but both of them.
- 18:22Speaker 3: You can make a clear case for Dy and Montgomery.
- 18:24Speaker 4: He's got one of the best touchdown props on the
- 18:26Speaker 4: slate at minus two twenty five, and he's ten percent
- 18:29Speaker 4: owned Gibbs more explosive.
- 18:31Speaker 3: I guess do you have a lean on stuff?
- 18:33Speaker 4: Like in our mind, everyone's like they're leading, it's gonna
- 18:35Speaker 4: be more David Montgomery, But it feels like it's pretty split.
- 18:38Speaker 4: Like if it's if they're trailing by a good amount,
- 18:40Speaker 4: I feel way better it's Gibbs, if they're just pass happy.
- 18:44Speaker 4: But in closer games, it still feels more at Gibbs.
- 18:46Speaker 4: It feels really close. Do you have any lean on
- 18:48Speaker 4: that you watch them all the time.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just obviously seems like it's as
- 18:51Speaker 2: close to fifty to fifty as you can get. And
- 18:53Speaker 2: it's not like if Gibbs, if they start a drive
- 18:56Speaker 2: with Gibbs and they get down to the five, that
- 18:57Speaker 2: they're gonna bring Montgomery in, Like I think a lot
- 18:59Speaker 2: of people think that's the case, And it's not like
- 19:01Speaker 2: they're letting the Yeah, they're letting these guys kind of
- 19:04Speaker 2: finish out the drive. If if in their mind they're like,
- 19:06Speaker 2: all right, this guy's in there for three more plays
- 19:08Speaker 2: and then Montgomery's coming in, that's how it's gonna go.
- 19:10Speaker 2: If Montgomery's out there, like all right, he has three
- 19:12Speaker 2: more plays and Gibbs is gonna come in. They just
- 19:14Speaker 2: stick with it. They're sticking with the script, and it's
- 19:16Speaker 2: not anything that is predictable. Like it's again, it's not like,
- 19:19Speaker 2: all right, we're inside the five, now Montgomery's coming in.
- 19:22Speaker 2: That's not the case. It's legit fifty to fifty to me,
- 19:25Speaker 2: and I want basically equal exposure to both because again,
- 19:27Speaker 2: I think two touchdown upside for both these guys is there.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Who's it gonna be? It's impossible to predict. And I
- 19:33Speaker 2: do agree with your point, like if the game does
- 19:36Speaker 2: get out of hand and Goss continuing to go like
- 19:38Speaker 2: they'll do some of that funky shit, they'll give it
- 19:40Speaker 2: to alignment, like they're willing to do that to get
- 19:43Speaker 2: these guys touchdowns. They want to get everybody involved, like
- 19:47Speaker 2: literally everybody, not like wide receiver four. You're talking like
- 19:49Speaker 2: offensive linemen and shit. So that's definitely the risk if
- 19:53Speaker 2: you're going like the golf stack sort of thing.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yeah, and shout up to our guy Jared here brings
- 19:58Speaker 1: up a good point. I think there's three games on
- 20:01Speaker 1: the slate today that this applies for. So again, when
- 20:03Speaker 1: you're talking about building out, if you only have one
- 20:04Speaker 1: to three max, I know a lot of people say
- 20:06Speaker 1: all the contents geared toward mme, which I understand. We're
- 20:09Speaker 1: talking at from all angles, not trying to give you
- 20:11Speaker 1: picks and plays. We give you ideas of process that
- 20:13Speaker 1: you can apply, and I'll talk more on that in
- 20:14Speaker 1: a second with this game, but just to note that
- 20:17Speaker 1: could be a thing for this game. If you don't
- 20:18Speaker 1: land there, you don't have to feel that bad. There
- 20:20Speaker 1: is a possibility. It's one for Gibbs with eighty yards
- 20:23Speaker 1: one for Montgomery, and you don't end up fully needing it,
- 20:26Speaker 1: and a Monro gets one. They do something with the
- 20:28Speaker 1: linebacker who knows so certainly think this is one of
- 20:30Speaker 1: the games. You bring up a good point there. The
- 20:32Speaker 1: last thing I'll say and then we'll move on it
- 20:34Speaker 1: entails talking about a guy in this next game is
- 20:37Speaker 1: the if I land on Montgomery. The nice thing about him,
- 20:39Speaker 1: as we just talked about, but he's got the props,
- 20:40Speaker 1: he's got everything that could go his way. It could
- 20:42Speaker 1: be a couple that he falls in for in the
- 20:43Speaker 1: one yard line. But also he can change the build
- 20:46Speaker 1: a little bit. Not as many people are landing at
- 20:47Speaker 1: sixty five hundred. It's just one more boost maybe it's
- 20:50Speaker 1: a Kai Shan boot, a boost off of him up
- 20:53Speaker 1: to a forty something one hundred dollars wide receiver or
- 20:56Speaker 1: better tight end or better defense or whatever it might
- 20:58Speaker 1: be that it can change that way. But the last part,
- 21:01Speaker 1: and it goes into this next game I'm gonna come
- 21:02Speaker 1: to you title on the Dolphins Raiders is he is
- 21:05Speaker 1: one hundred bucks more than a Chan for Gibbs, and
- 21:08Speaker 1: he is more explosive in you know, in general, not
- 21:11Speaker 1: than a Chan, but just in general. I'm saying, like
- 21:12Speaker 1: probably against Montgomery is what people are saying. But you're
- 21:15Speaker 1: allowed to play him in e CHAN together too, you know,
- 21:17Speaker 1: like you can actually play those two and still fit
- 21:19Speaker 1: in one of Kamara or CMC with some of these
- 21:22Speaker 1: other value plays in these cheaper quarterbacks. So you don't
- 21:25Speaker 1: have to be a if this then that, or you know,
- 21:27Speaker 1: I can only play one, I have to separate them
- 21:29Speaker 1: and pivot. You're allowed to play both. So give us
- 21:32Speaker 1: your thoughts with that moving into a Chan at home
- 21:34Speaker 1: versus the Raiders. We know he's going to be extremely
- 21:37Speaker 1: popular on this slate.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I love what you talked about.
- 21:40Speaker 4: The roster construction standpoint from what we talked about earlier,
- 21:44Speaker 4: and I think we right in the first two games.
- 21:47Speaker 4: Three clear running back plays the Chaine Kamara CMC all
- 21:49Speaker 4: spend ups, Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery Gibbs, three guys that
- 21:53Speaker 4: of course have the upside, all favorite to score a touchdowns.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Solid props.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Those are three guys I'll be looking at as pivots
- 21:59Speaker 4: at running back position, and good call out on the
- 22:02Speaker 4: roster construction this game Vegas and Miami Vegas. That's really easy.
- 22:07Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers and Brock Bauers. Jacoby Myers is going to
- 22:10Speaker 4: be pretty popular today, There's no doubt about that.
- 22:13Speaker 3: And why is that the case?
- 22:15Speaker 4: While he's wide receiver one on a team that should
- 22:17Speaker 4: be trailing a good amount and everyone's spending up that
- 22:20Speaker 4: running back you need to go mid tier or cheaper
- 22:23Speaker 4: for receiver. People are naturally going to land on Jacoby
- 22:25Speaker 4: Myers on both sites. I think it's a fine play.
- 22:28Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna be playing some Does he overly excite
- 22:31Speaker 4: me by any means? No, it's a really gross Gardner
- 22:35Speaker 4: Minshew team. The offense can't move the football. Brock Powers
- 22:38Speaker 4: is a really interesting I don't know if pivots the
- 22:41Speaker 4: right word because obviously there are different positions. Two tight
- 22:44Speaker 4: ends is viable today though, and he's two hundred more.
- 22:47Speaker 4: And if you want to play brock Powers and not
- 22:49Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers, someone called the brock Bowers game earlier. It
- 22:52Speaker 4: is one of the best tight ends in football. He's
- 22:54Speaker 4: a lot lot less lower owned. And you're talking about
- 22:57Speaker 4: like tight end position. Almost everyone's going down, they go up.
- 23:00Speaker 4: I expect it to be Kelsey. Brock Bowers has that upside,
- 23:04Speaker 4: So just Jakobe Myers. Brock Bowers that side Miami side
- 23:08Speaker 4: a chain is one of the better plays on the slate.
- 23:10Speaker 3: He's just so much better with Tua.
- 23:12Speaker 4: If you want to leverage off a chain, I mean
- 23:15Speaker 4: I think I'd rather not. I think I'd rather make
- 23:18Speaker 4: a running back pivot like it gives Montgomery in that
- 23:20Speaker 4: then I would go Tua Tyreek and waddle. You can
- 23:23Speaker 4: do it. It is expensive, though, seventy four hundred Tyreek.
- 23:26Speaker 4: That means you're probably not playing one of like the
- 23:29Speaker 4: Kamaras McCaffrey's.
- 23:30Speaker 3: You have to pick some of the world.
- 23:32Speaker 4: He does leverage off a chain, though, If you want
- 23:34Speaker 4: to go Tua chain Tyreek, I think it's interesting, but
- 23:37Speaker 4: it's just so expensive on this slate. It's hard for
- 23:39Speaker 4: me to get there much so, to be honest, it's
- 23:41Speaker 4: really more one off pieces. I don't even love Tyreek
- 23:45Speaker 4: or Wattle much. Obviously, that's really scary to say they
- 23:47Speaker 4: can break a slate, but I think it's mainly a
- 23:49Speaker 4: chain Bowers, Jacoby and one off pieces.
- 23:53Speaker 2: That's it.
- 23:53Speaker 1: If Tyreek breaks the slate, it's this one. And it's
- 23:56Speaker 1: very simple. It's the spot if almost a thirty point
- 23:58Speaker 1: team till it's like twenty six twenty seven, everyone's playing
- 24:01Speaker 1: the seventy two hundred. It's literally the same thing as
- 24:03Speaker 1: the other side you just mentioned it. It's Meyers's fifty six.
- 24:07Speaker 1: His leverage on his own team is going to the
- 24:09Speaker 1: tight end position, playing a pay up tight end instead
- 24:12Speaker 1: of everyone's paying down. I think pretty much any Meers
- 24:16Speaker 1: Henry lineup Hunter Henry in the next game could probably
- 24:19Speaker 1: be Bowers with Boot, who will talk about in a second.
- 24:22Speaker 1: And I got a pivot there as well. So just
- 24:24Speaker 1: little things like that that you can look at on
- 24:25Speaker 1: this slave. But I think this is the spot. And
- 24:27Speaker 1: for me, it's not Waddle, it's Tua, Tyreek and John
- 24:30Speaker 1: new Smith. John new Smith is thirty eight hundred bucks.
- 24:33Speaker 1: If they're putting up the twenty six points, they're going
- 24:35Speaker 1: to somebody. I mean, they have to literally, So it's like,
- 24:38Speaker 1: if it's not a Chan, that's gonna be the thing.
- 24:40Speaker 1: It's gonna tilt a lot of people. But this was
- 24:42Speaker 1: my take today earlier when I mentioned where it feels like,
- 24:44Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be some setup of this where
- 24:46Speaker 1: it's the right spot, wrong guy. And unfortunately, as good
- 24:49Speaker 1: of a chalk piece as e Chan looks like, I
- 24:52Speaker 1: do have a little bit of the concerns there. I'm
- 24:53Speaker 1: still in on them. I'm playing them a ton. I'm
- 24:55Speaker 1: just explaining how I'm looking at it in other builds.
- 24:58Speaker 1: And then obviously the easiest way to let is just
- 25:00Speaker 1: go to that passing stack. You can still run it
- 25:02Speaker 1: back with Meyers if you want, you know, I'm fine
- 25:04Speaker 1: with it, or just no run back at all, hoop
- 25:06Speaker 1: kick it do you well?
- 25:07Speaker 4: One question for you, Tamp, But first of all, I
- 25:08Speaker 4: wanted to mention John, who could call there just say
- 25:11Speaker 4: you're building one team, and you're building it to a team.
- 25:13Speaker 3: Obviously a chain can go with two. It's a pass catcher.
- 25:16Speaker 4: He's good that way, But would you rather try and
- 25:18Speaker 4: leverage off that ownership or what do you play it with?
- 25:20Speaker 3: You you would leave him off.
- 25:22Speaker 1: It's a great question because the answer is that you
- 25:24Speaker 1: can do it. I think that's funny that everyone automatically
- 25:26Speaker 1: goes like what I just said automatically went to I
- 25:28Speaker 1: want to leverage it. I don't think that should always
- 25:31Speaker 1: be the case. I think you can play some party
- 25:33Speaker 1: with some CMC. I think there's other stef Like I
- 25:34Speaker 1: talked about this one all the time, is everyone wants
- 25:37Speaker 1: to leverage Gino or something like. You can play Geno
- 25:38Speaker 1: with Walker. He literally throws them twenty yard touchdown passes
- 25:42Speaker 1: into the end zone. Walker looks like a better receiver
- 25:44Speaker 1: than half the league or more. But in this specific scenario,
- 25:48Speaker 1: especially when we get into the higher stake, smaller dollar stuff,
- 25:50Speaker 1: a chan is just going to continue to rise up
- 25:52Speaker 1: because he's just been so good. And if he's not,
- 25:56Speaker 1: they still are likely in my eyes, against this Raiders
- 25:58Speaker 1: team at home to put up twenty five plus points,
- 26:01Speaker 1: and so I'm seeing it. I just have to trust it.
- 26:03Speaker 1: And it's for me going to be with Hill and
- 26:05Speaker 1: with John who to fill up the onesie position just
- 26:07Speaker 1: to round it out. So I like that set up
- 26:09Speaker 1: there for myself.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Yeap makes sense, but you got who uh yeah, I
- 26:13Speaker 2: mean the Raiders stuff. It's just it's Meyer's fine mid
- 26:16Speaker 2: tier wide receiver. Bowers I think is a fine pivot
- 26:20Speaker 2: off of the cheap tight ends and I'm good with
- 26:23Speaker 2: especially in this game. Like if you if you're going
- 26:25Speaker 2: to a stuff which I am actually like the two
- 26:27Speaker 2: of stuff today, I'm going to make sure that I
- 26:29Speaker 2: have some Bowers in there. And you know you're getting
- 26:32Speaker 2: my as of the same Dolphins team as last year's
- 26:35Speaker 2: are the same Tyreek, same situation. No, not yet, but
- 26:38Speaker 2: I think it could maybe be trending in that direction.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Like they got a big win last week. You know,
- 26:43Speaker 2: Tyreek kind of made the statement we're not done yet,
- 26:45Speaker 2: like they're playing to win these games. You know, six
- 26:49Speaker 2: K for two seventy four for Tyreek, and I like
- 26:52Speaker 2: to comment earlier. I don't know exactly where it went,
- 26:55Speaker 2: but basically someone said I didn't have like Tyreek as
- 26:57Speaker 2: a pivot in twenty twenty four. My maybe binga on
- 27:00Speaker 2: my Bengo card last year. Yeah, like this is like
- 27:03Speaker 2: a slam dunk. You would have been like seventy percent owned.
- 27:07Speaker 2: But it's like the same situation now was last year.
- 27:09Speaker 2: They're in a good matchup. Tuoa is healthy, they have
- 27:12Speaker 2: a running back that can take some of the pressure
- 27:15Speaker 2: off of him. I really like the two of the
- 27:17Speaker 2: Tyreek stuff to it. A Wattle to John new Smith like,
- 27:20Speaker 2: you can do it in a variety of different ways.
- 27:22Speaker 2: You can do Tua with a Chan like like we
- 27:25Speaker 2: talked about. So there's so many different ways to stack
- 27:27Speaker 2: to a quarterback. I'd say it's relatively weak today. It
- 27:31Speaker 2: is a position where like twenty two could be the winner, Like,
- 27:35Speaker 2: there's not many standout like really good quarterback plays. Everything
- 27:39Speaker 2: on the side is as cheap as humanly possible. You
- 27:42Speaker 2: can play it as a leverage too, Like if you
- 27:43Speaker 2: still want to play you know CMC and Kamara and
- 27:47Speaker 2: you can't get the a Chan, you can do a
- 27:49Speaker 2: cheap Miami. You can do like Tamba talked about, Tua
- 27:52Speaker 2: to Wattle to John Wu You're getting everything. Besides, you
- 27:56Speaker 2: know a Chan and Tyreek Hill Wattles had big games.
- 28:00Speaker 2: It just all makes a lot of sense to me.
- 28:02Speaker 2: And you have two solid runbacks on the other sides.
- 28:04Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be in on this for sure today.
- 28:07Speaker 2: I actually I like it a lot. I like AHM
- 28:09Speaker 2: two like. I think he's a great play, and I
- 28:11Speaker 2: do think his ownership has to get held in check
- 28:13Speaker 2: a little bit today because CMC stock is now rising
- 28:16Speaker 2: with Kittle out kamaras in a really good spot and
- 28:19Speaker 2: way too cheap. Both of them are way too cheap.
- 28:21Speaker 2: So really, like everything on Miami, I'll be way overweight
- 28:25Speaker 2: on the full Miami side. And then yeah, like Jacobe
- 28:28Speaker 2: and Bowers, I think are fine options.
- 28:30Speaker 3: I know what you're laughing at. Yeah, I hear that
- 28:32Speaker 3: shit I saw just got me so bad.
- 28:35Speaker 1: I never get got either. That was a good one,
- 28:37Speaker 1: rob He's descriptions. Do I need to buy to get
- 28:39Speaker 1: Zach a background other than his dining room? Dude deserves better.
- 28:43Speaker 1: He literally just won like fifty K the other night.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Can't buy a background though? That's a that's a nice
- 28:48Speaker 1: house though, that's a you know, you got a whole spot?
- 28:50Speaker 1: This is I think he is at his buddy's house.
- 28:51Speaker 4: Good.
- 28:52Speaker 1: He has a nice house himself. I already know about
- 28:54Speaker 1: so it looks nice.
- 28:55Speaker 2: The thing that kills me people without the background there
- 28:57Speaker 2: they got It's like a nasty set up behind the
- 29:00Speaker 2: ship all over the place, like at least he got
- 29:02Speaker 2: the nice little you know, light hanging from the ceiling.
- 29:05Speaker 2: You can see you know, you got the high ceilings
- 29:07Speaker 2: going on. It's not in your bedroom or anything like that.
- 29:11Speaker 1: I was gonna say that, buddy, chandelier back there's taller
- 29:14Speaker 1: than most people regular ceiling ceiling, and there this guy.
- 29:18Speaker 3: It ain't my crib.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Chandelier. Yeah, look at that thing. So all right, I
- 29:23Speaker 1: don't have I don't have much else on this game, but.
- 29:28Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that a little bit. I
- 29:29Speaker 3: like it.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it too. It's we don't like anything,
- 29:32Speaker 1: that's the whole point, but a pre show.
- 29:36Speaker 2: I like it too.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I like it too hot. What did he say? He said,
- 29:43Speaker 1: I forget what you said about the stacking. I said, no, No,
- 29:45Speaker 1: he says, hard to find something to say the way
- 29:47Speaker 1: you said it was what you meant was what I
- 29:48Speaker 1: said it was. Actually it's easy to find stuff to stack.
- 29:50Speaker 1: I just don't know if I like any of it.
- 29:52Speaker 1: And that's kind of what this set up looks like
- 29:54Speaker 1: as well. So we'll move on to the next one.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I was gonna bring some happy Gilmore. There's happy Gilmore too,
- 29:59Speaker 1: by the way, is coming soon. I saw their filming it.
- 30:01Speaker 1: But if you remember the scene when he says, hey, hey,
- 30:04Speaker 1: what do you say? Down by the bay plays some
- 30:07Speaker 1: Drake May for a big pay day? Is that what
- 30:08Speaker 1: we're gonna do here? These Patriots. We've got Drake May,
- 30:11Speaker 1: Millie Maker at home against the Rams. Lots of dudes
- 30:15Speaker 1: that you can go to in the old Kaishaan Bute
- 30:18Speaker 1: down by the Bay. They said, too, you got to
- 30:20Speaker 1: get his name right. But I do think there's something
- 30:22Speaker 1: interesting about this game, all seriousness. The Patriots let go
- 30:25Speaker 1: of a healthy Taekwon Thornton, and I think they're gonna
- 30:29Speaker 1: I think one of these dudes is gonna be inactive
- 30:31Speaker 1: and it's gonna be born. That comes up at thirty
- 30:34Speaker 1: one hundred and nobody's I mean, some people are talking
- 30:37Speaker 1: about him lightly, but he's not gonna get played. It's
- 30:39Speaker 1: gonna be a very inside the bubble. DFS sites only
- 30:43Speaker 1: maybe certain shows only talking about this because he's thirty
- 30:46Speaker 1: one hundred. Projection sites ares included everyone for good reason
- 30:49Speaker 1: right now, like Kaishaan Bute about you know, thirty five hundred.
- 30:54Speaker 1: But it's it's a tricky play and if he only
- 30:56Speaker 1: gets to the you know, what is it who was
- 30:58Speaker 1: it last week? Like Matt Call versus Curtis Samuel, or
- 31:01Speaker 1: I should have flipped the Curtis Samuel because he got
- 31:03Speaker 1: three for eighteen yards because he catches it and falls
- 31:06Speaker 1: on it. But nothing for Hollands yet, and then Hollins
- 31:08Speaker 1: gets the big boy plays. That's what I could see
- 31:11Speaker 1: here happening with Bourne. So title a kick it? Do
- 31:12Speaker 1: you Patriots at the Rams your thoughts on that and
- 31:15Speaker 1: anything else here?
- 31:16Speaker 3: So you think Bourne's going to be active in one
- 31:18Speaker 3: of like Pole.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Maybe Osborne maybe? Yeah? For whatever they do, I think
- 31:23Speaker 1: I think Bourne could come back and eat all their lunch.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting value.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Play, not like break this. I mean, maybe break this
- 31:29Speaker 1: light because you need him as the value. But I'm
- 31:31Speaker 1: saying over picking some of these other guys just to
- 31:33Speaker 1: pick them because projections told you.
- 31:35Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, And that's leverage off of Boute thanks
- 31:39Speaker 4: our man Jordan and a French accent Bute. I like that,
- 31:41Speaker 4: and Hunter Henry who definitely are getting ownership. So Bote
- 31:47Speaker 4: for sure makes sense because it's really cheap or value
- 31:50Speaker 4: is really tough on this late and the last two
- 31:51Speaker 4: weeks he played ninety seven and ninety six percent of snaps,
- 31:54Speaker 4: which has been at the expense Douglass, Polk Osbourne, all
- 31:57Speaker 4: of them were mixing in in two receiver sets, so
- 32:00Speaker 4: you Boute's on the field, not almost the whole time.
- 32:03Speaker 4: He's thirty five hundred on a slate without value. With
- 32:05Speaker 4: all that being said, it's still Kate or it's Boute
- 32:09Speaker 4: with Drake May and an eighteen total like in the Patriots,
- 32:13Speaker 4: so you can buy far get off of it. I
- 32:15Speaker 4: will be playing some Drake May's stuff though, because how
- 32:18Speaker 4: cheap they are.
- 32:19Speaker 3: What it gets you the McCaffrey's the Kamars of the world.
- 32:23Speaker 4: It's low owned, and like Tomorrio, Douglas is standing out
- 32:26Speaker 4: to me is I just think he's a good football player. Again,
- 32:29Speaker 4: the snap counts event a little of a concern if
- 32:31Speaker 4: he gets seventy percent of snaps or something. I think
- 32:33Speaker 4: he's more talented than Butte Hunter, Henry, etc. He's leverage
- 32:37Speaker 4: off of them. He's lower owned. You can just go
- 32:39Speaker 4: Drake May Douglas if you really want it. I'm more
- 32:42Speaker 4: than likely to probably throw in one of the other ones.
- 32:44Speaker 4: But it's so cheap. It gets you all the studs,
- 32:47Speaker 4: maybe sixteen from May and twelve from Douglas and gets
- 32:50Speaker 4: you all the flames. The spend ups is enough on
- 32:53Speaker 4: this slate, So just because of the pricing and what
- 32:56Speaker 4: four and half point dogs. If the Rams can jump
- 32:58Speaker 4: out Drake May, we seen them drop back over forty times.
- 33:01Speaker 3: That's the stuff you like.
- 33:02Speaker 4: So and I'm not that that excited for Drake May,
- 33:05Speaker 4: but on this slate I am playing some Drake May
- 33:08Speaker 4: other side with the Rams. I'm not nearly as excited
- 33:11Speaker 4: now with Pook Cooper cut Kyron Williams.
- 33:14Speaker 3: It's like, man, which one is it gonna be? You
- 33:16Speaker 3: absolutely can't miss.
- 33:17Speaker 4: On him and the price tag on the main slate,
- 33:21Speaker 4: I think I just rather than Jacobs Montgomery pivots of
- 33:23Speaker 4: the world for a little cheaper and I don't see
- 33:26Speaker 4: myself going too far up at receivers. So really just
- 33:29Speaker 4: Patriot stuff if you are full stacking it, though you
- 33:31Speaker 4: can pick a run back. The clear one is Davis Allen,
- 33:34Speaker 4: though at twenty five hundred we talked about it. He
- 33:37Speaker 4: overtook Parkinson's role on the Showdown. He's mid price at
- 33:40Speaker 4: twenty five hundred, ten points could be enough. I'll take
- 33:43Speaker 4: ten points any day, and what it gets you so yeah,
- 33:47Speaker 4: some Drake may stuff and mainly Davis Allen on the RAMS.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Yeah, all the jokes aside who but I'll kick it
- 33:51Speaker 1: to you. But I think one interesting spot is definitely
- 33:53Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, just because he's the opposite side of Davis Allen.
- 33:56Speaker 1: It's all he's getting no love. People are still playing Henry.
- 33:58Speaker 1: But you can just shut it down. You don't have
- 34:00Speaker 1: to play with may Or. You could just play May
- 34:03Speaker 1: and him and skip over figuring out who these guys are.
- 34:06Speaker 1: You could put Douglas in there pop. Douglas certainly a
- 34:08Speaker 1: good player that I think is fine to fit in there.
- 34:09Speaker 1: But if you wanted to skip over figuring out the
- 34:12Speaker 1: Patriots wide receiver acting like that's a big thing because
- 34:15Speaker 1: people are making it a big thing with the ownership
- 34:17Speaker 1: on Kayshan, I think it's just Hunter Henry right there
- 34:20Speaker 1: at thirty nine hundred, and even if a double tight
- 34:22Speaker 1: end build, I would be fine too, because he's thirty
- 34:24Speaker 1: nine hundred. I know Knox is going to be there
- 34:27Speaker 1: later on at thirty five hundred, but Alan Henry. The
- 34:31Speaker 1: one thing I worry about too, as I caick it
- 34:32Speaker 1: do is Kyen Williams looks like a good pivot solid.
- 34:35Speaker 1: He's seventy nine hundred. He's just below those other guys.
- 34:38Speaker 1: But I feel like he's the guy that could get
- 34:39Speaker 1: two touchdowns and not be needed just because it is
- 34:42Speaker 1: like a fall in type of thing. I don't know.
- 34:44Speaker 1: I have to see how it goes. What's your thoughts
- 34:45Speaker 1: in this game?
- 34:45Speaker 3: Hoo.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tod This game's tough all around, like the Patriots.
- 34:49Speaker 2: So that's the only reason anyone's talking about the Patriots
- 34:51Speaker 2: side is because we don't have value and these guys
- 34:54Speaker 2: are showing up as as value. And if you are
- 34:56Speaker 2: just using an optimizer, be careful because you're gonna end
- 34:59Speaker 2: up up with a lot of boutet in your life.
- 35:01Speaker 2: And I mean maybe you like that sort of thing.
- 35:03Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's gonna be popular if you
- 35:05Speaker 2: just run shit like it's there's not many value plays
- 35:08Speaker 2: have the wide receiver position, Douglas. I mean, I'm playing them,
- 35:11Speaker 2: but I'm capping them a little bit. Hunter Henry, I'm
- 35:13Speaker 2: fine with that. And then ramondre Stevenson on FanDuel title.
- 35:18Speaker 2: You probably know this off top of your head. I
- 35:20Speaker 2: think like sixty five hundred, right, I mean, he's he's
- 35:22Speaker 2: pretty damn cheap yep. Yeah yeah, solid play over there.
- 35:26Speaker 2: Prefer him over on FanDuel opposed to.
- 35:29Speaker 4: Chase Brown pivot but like the Sunday Night Game, he's
- 35:32Speaker 4: gonna Chase Brown sixty eight.
- 35:33Speaker 3: That's your chain. Montgomery gives pivots of the world.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So, I mean I'm fine with you as individually.
- 35:38Speaker 2: I'm just not super excited about it. The only reason
- 35:41Speaker 2: we're talking about him is because we just don't have
- 35:43Speaker 2: a ton of value. So I'm going to have some Bote,
- 35:46Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some Douglas, I'm gonna have some Henry,
- 35:48Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some Stevenson Nfandueled definitely not playing uh
- 35:52Speaker 2: Drake may I know you guys had a little bit
- 35:53Speaker 2: of interest. If I was playing a quarterback in this game,
- 35:55Speaker 2: I think it might be Stafford, and I'm probably not
- 35:58Speaker 2: playing Stafford. So that's where we're at. Like the Kieran
- 36:01Speaker 2: William things, like, man, he's right there, like in terms
- 36:04Speaker 2: of price with CMC and Alvin Kamara, they're just such
- 36:10Speaker 2: better plays than him. But like, you know, this dude's
- 36:12Speaker 2: falling in the box like three times if you fade him,
- 36:14Speaker 2: Like you know, what's happening. If you fade Kieran Williams,
- 36:17Speaker 2: he's scoring like three touchdowns, Alice scoring Kamara and CMC.
- 36:21Speaker 2: So I haven't decided what I'm doing with Williams as
- 36:23Speaker 2: of now. I have him in, but I'm not a
- 36:27Speaker 2: post to taking them out in order to get more
- 36:29Speaker 2: CMC and and Kamara pooka cup. I mean single digit
- 36:36Speaker 2: ownership for sure. So like I'm gonna play him, I'm
- 36:38Speaker 2: gonna get get some exposure to both. Who's it gonna be?
- 36:41Speaker 2: Like you guys said, who the hell knows? I mean,
- 36:43Speaker 2: it's one of those situations, the same thing like Gibbs Montgomery,
- 36:46Speaker 2: Who's it gonna be? Who the hell knows? Same situation here,
- 36:49Speaker 2: don't know, Just gonna play them both. And then David
- 36:52Speaker 2: Allen I thought would be a little more popular just
- 36:55Speaker 2: because we saw him on that primetime slate. He got
- 36:58Speaker 2: all the work, getting all the target. Twenty five hundred
- 37:01Speaker 2: we need value still getting some ownership looks like mid teams,
- 37:05Speaker 2: but I thought it was gonna be even higher. I mean,
- 37:07Speaker 2: twenty five hundred for a tight end on the slate
- 37:10Speaker 2: goes a very very long way, very long way, and
- 37:12Speaker 2: you're able to make a lot work. I think it
- 37:15Speaker 2: was like five targets brought them all in. I think
- 37:17Speaker 2: he's a phenomenal player on the slate, and you know
- 37:21Speaker 2: if the tight end position tanks, like no one absolutely
- 37:24Speaker 2: goes off him getting like eight nine, ten could win GPPs.
- 37:28Speaker 2: I mean cash games definitely, but it could even win GPPs.
- 37:31Speaker 2: So yeah, in on Allen, Cup, Puka, both Kieran, I
- 37:37Speaker 2: have him in now, but I could potentially take him out.
- 37:39Speaker 2: I just it's one of those situations like you know
- 37:42Speaker 2: you're not gonna make the right decision reguard likes if
- 37:44Speaker 2: you play them and you take away some Kamara and
- 37:47Speaker 2: CMC shares. He's gonna do nothing if you fade him.
- 37:51Speaker 2: His ass is score in three touchdowns. That's like the
- 37:53Speaker 2: feeling I have on Kiaren Williams right now. So maybe
- 37:56Speaker 2: just play him a little underweight or something. That's probably
- 37:59Speaker 2: what I'll end up doing.
- 38:00Speaker 1: I would also say, like, I think that's a great
- 38:01Speaker 1: point because there's you know two things I would do
- 38:03Speaker 1: with Kien Williams. One, I'm playing Drake May. I want
- 38:05Speaker 1: to play him to make that go, and it's if
- 38:07Speaker 1: he goes and he's in a good spot, it's obviously
- 38:09Speaker 1: already a good matchup. That is what the RAMS should
- 38:11Speaker 1: try and do going into New England. Just jam it
- 38:14Speaker 1: in with him and see if it works, and then
- 38:16Speaker 1: hopefully we get Drake Maystacks on the way back. You
- 38:18Speaker 1: could even go something as simple as May Hunter Henry
- 38:21Speaker 1: and Karen Williams and just leave it at that. That's
- 38:23Speaker 1: literally a perfect way to set it up, not too
- 38:25Speaker 1: much ownership anywhere, and now you can fill it out
- 38:27Speaker 1: with the chalk around it the other values. The other
- 38:30Speaker 1: thing I would say though, is if you you know,
- 38:32Speaker 1: still like him in the spot, put him with the
- 38:34Speaker 1: rams D. If you think he's gonna go but you're
- 38:36Speaker 1: worried that May is not going to bring it on
- 38:38Speaker 1: the other side, jam the rams D in at thirty
- 38:40Speaker 1: two hundred with him. It's basically the same price as
- 38:42Speaker 1: playing I don't know who's coming up next. We're about
- 38:45Speaker 1: to get to it, like Kamara and the whatever the
- 38:48Speaker 1: Jets D is or something that's a popular D is
- 38:51Speaker 1: basically the same price you pay up four hundred down,
- 38:53Speaker 1: three hundred fine, one hundred bucks somewhere else. It's very
- 38:56Speaker 1: close to that. So I think there's a few ways
- 38:58Speaker 1: you can go in this game if you like the spot.
- 38:59Speaker 1: But to Hoop's original point, the only reason we're talking
- 39:02Speaker 1: about any value in that game is because of the
- 39:06Speaker 1: least amount of value we've seen in a while, especially
- 39:08Speaker 1: a wide receiver on a slate with this many games.
- 39:10Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next one. Title.
- 39:13Speaker 1: It is the Browns at the Saints just talked about
- 39:15Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. The chat's already talking about Nick Chubb. Do
- 39:18Speaker 1: we want the Jamis revenge game in the Dome? What
- 39:20Speaker 1: are you doing here with this one? This is a
- 39:22Speaker 1: certain certainly an interesting game to talk about.
- 39:24Speaker 2: How about the Chubb Chubb Chubb boutet combo? That sounds
- 39:27Speaker 2: pretty pretty tasty tasty for me.
- 39:32Speaker 3: I don't know what side of.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Your tasting any dude, title you're up?
- 39:39Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I want to play Jamis. But the
- 39:41Speaker 4: problem is I think everyone wants to play Jamis. Like
- 39:44Speaker 4: if I had to pick the highest on quarterback on
- 39:46Speaker 4: the slate, I think it would be Jamis. And the
- 39:48Speaker 4: reason for that is a the price is good at
- 39:51Speaker 4: fifty five hundred, and all this pass catchers are pretty
- 39:54Speaker 4: cheap right in that five K four K range, And
- 39:57Speaker 4: all the dude does is sling the ball, whether he
- 39:59Speaker 4: throws fourgners that he'll keep throwing it.
- 40:01Speaker 3: You want to go a little revenge narrative, they're in
- 40:03Speaker 3: the dome.
- 40:04Speaker 4: He's gonna be popular, but I'm still gonna play him
- 40:06Speaker 4: because Tilman's gonna be popular. Elijah Ward's gonna get some
- 40:10Speaker 4: Judy will Is the clear leverage on both of them,
- 40:13Speaker 4: the lowest owned of them all. You can play all
- 40:15Speaker 4: three of them if you want. With Jamis, if you
- 40:17Speaker 4: really think he slings it. If I'm doing that, I'm
- 40:19Speaker 4: definitely playing Kamara. On the other side, I'm expecting a
- 40:22Speaker 4: high paced game. With all that being said, someone mentioned
- 40:25Speaker 4: the Nick Chubb. How do you leverage off the most?
- 40:27Speaker 4: Like Tilman's getting ownership, More's getting ownership, Jamis is getting ownership.
- 40:31Speaker 3: If they don't get.
- 40:32Speaker 4: There, it's either Saint Steve just absolutely smashes them, which
- 40:35Speaker 4: you can go that route, or it's probably Nick Chubb
- 40:38Speaker 4: falls in the box twice. His rushing prop is actually
- 40:40Speaker 4: pretty good sixty seven and a half. You're also you
- 40:44Speaker 4: talked about the roster construction wise six k. You're one
- 40:48Speaker 4: k less in the chain, two k less than the
- 40:50Speaker 4: Kamaras of the world, So you flip your build a
- 40:52Speaker 4: little bit plus one hundred to score. I'm fine with it.
- 40:56Speaker 4: Even Fandway has a really good price take too, and
- 40:58Speaker 4: even fits the scoring better on Fans. I do prefer
- 41:00Speaker 4: it a little over there. But again I do think
- 41:02Speaker 4: this Jamis stacks do get steam and that is a
- 41:05Speaker 4: way that it can busts if Chubb falls in twice.
- 41:07Speaker 3: So yeah, I like these Browns.
- 41:09Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna be playing the receivers a little Jamis,
- 41:12Speaker 4: but I will probably try and get different in some
- 41:14Speaker 4: Jamis stuff. Same side, I'll let talk who talk about
- 41:18Speaker 4: his voice scantling. All I'll say is Kamara and that's
- 41:21Speaker 4: pretty much it. Kamar is a strong play. He's coming
- 41:24Speaker 4: with ownership not really. What's interesting is how good of
- 41:27Speaker 4: a play is He's minus one forty to score and
- 41:29Speaker 4: he's still because of his PPR upside, his receptions everything,
- 41:33Speaker 4: He's just such a DraftKings God when it comes to dfs.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Easier fate on Fandal for me, even though the price
- 41:39Speaker 4: is silly.
- 41:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a funny, same price on Vandal, but it's
- 41:42Speaker 1: the whole point of the setup that is where even
- 41:43Speaker 1: with Fandal adding the bonuses and talking about it through
- 41:46Speaker 1: on certain showdown slates and things where you see more
- 41:48Speaker 1: wide receivers up top now and that sort of set
- 41:50Speaker 1: up the full point PPR seemingly matters so much more
- 41:53Speaker 1: in the running back segment of guys like an Alvin Kamara.
- 41:56Speaker 1: So the one thing is who's just kicking it to you?
- 41:58Speaker 1: Is love it or hate it or think it's disgusting, whatever.
- 42:01Speaker 3: It might be.
- 42:01Speaker 1: The Chubb play is double leverage. Like your your your
- 42:05Speaker 1: opposite side of Kamara, You're within the Jameis Winston stacks.
- 42:09Speaker 1: I don't really like stacking them up. So whereas earlier you,
- 42:12Speaker 1: like a title was saying you could put a cham
- 42:14Speaker 1: with two no problem, and I just wanted to leverage
- 42:17Speaker 1: it that way, here I just would be like, I
- 42:18Speaker 1: don't want these two together. I want Jamis with those
- 42:20Speaker 1: pass catchers. Also, Judy has to be a good play,
- 42:24Speaker 1: like he's literally projected everywhere including our site, the exact
- 42:27Speaker 1: same projection almost like one two points less, I should
- 42:29Speaker 1: say to be accurate. But the ownership is one third
- 42:32Speaker 1: to one fourth depending on where you're looking. I mean,
- 42:34Speaker 1: that is is what it is. Tilman has the game log.
- 42:37Speaker 1: It looks good, but it's one game, anything could happen,
- 42:39Speaker 1: So I'll kick it to you. Hoop Brown's at the Saints.
- 42:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like the I like the Jamis
- 42:44Speaker 2: stuff today for sure, But I like it. I don't
- 42:47Speaker 2: know if it's like in a unique manner. I like
- 42:49Speaker 2: double stacking him. I like him with two of these
- 42:51Speaker 2: pass catchers. Hope we get like the forty eight you know,
- 42:54Speaker 2: pass attempt Jameis Winston today, and he can easily pay
- 42:58Speaker 2: off all of these guys or multiple these guys, because
- 43:00Speaker 2: they're pretty cheap. I mean, Tillman five to three, Judy
- 43:03Speaker 2: five to fourlives are more four to three than David
- 43:06Speaker 2: Njoku five to five. The quarterback's already cheap in Jamis.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Then you have the natural runback in Kamara. They're not
- 43:12Speaker 2: gonna be able to even if the Browns are playing
- 43:15Speaker 2: from behind, like they don't have a running back, they
- 43:17Speaker 2: can just drain the clock with So I could see
- 43:20Speaker 2: some back and forth here. So definitely like Jamis, like
- 43:24Speaker 2: I said, but I almost prefer I'm gonna have some
- 43:26Speaker 2: single stacks too, but I almost prefer him doubled up
- 43:28Speaker 2: with Kamara coming back on the other side. The Nick
- 43:31Speaker 2: Chubb stuff very interesting gonna be somewhat popular on FanDuel
- 43:34Speaker 2: because again he's another one of these running backs. It's
- 43:36Speaker 2: just much cheaper. I think he has like the same
- 43:38Speaker 2: price tag over on fanduels see a six point two
- 43:40Speaker 2: K on FanDuel where his game kind of fits FanDuel
- 43:43Speaker 2: scoring much better. But he's gonna have ownership there. He's
- 43:46Speaker 2: not going to really have the ownership on DK. I'm
- 43:49Speaker 2: not really getting to him much on DK, but I
- 43:51Speaker 2: understand the play. I'm just gonna be more on this
- 43:53Speaker 2: passing stuff for sure, and then I'll make sure I'm
- 43:55Speaker 2: overweight on him on FanDuel because I'm playing on both sites.
- 43:58Speaker 2: So that's kind of how I'm playing this one. I
- 44:00Speaker 2: agree with the Judy play. Judy has to be a
- 44:02Speaker 2: really good play to say, you know, everyone's going to Tillman,
- 44:04Speaker 2: Elijah Moore is getting a little bit, but even in Joku,
- 44:07Speaker 2: like he's kind of in that spend range at tight
- 44:11Speaker 2: end where a lot of people are going cheap. Like
- 44:12Speaker 2: I'm definitely forcing in something Joku. So yeah, like Tillman
- 44:16Speaker 2: will get some ownership maybe a little bit to Elijah Moore,
- 44:19Speaker 2: but like Judy and in Djoku, looking like no ownership
- 44:23Speaker 2: like whatsoever. So I'm definitely in on all those pass
- 44:26Speaker 2: catchers and then it's just Kamara and then uh, you know,
- 44:31Speaker 2: maybe Taso them a little bit of Taysom at forty five.
- 44:34Speaker 2: And I swear if you guys keep bringing up the
- 44:36Speaker 2: MVS shit, you know you know who I'm going to
- 44:38Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. That game is still yet
- 44:41Speaker 2: to be talked about. So that's all I'm saying there.
- 44:43Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say. It's funny he said. I thought
- 44:44Speaker 1: he was gonna let it slide and I wasn't even
- 44:46Speaker 1: gonna try and bring it back up to get you
- 44:47Speaker 1: the The clip is clipped in our discord, still pinning.
- 44:50Speaker 1: If you want to go get a good laugh.
- 44:51Speaker 2: I stand by it. Stand by it, man, Actually stand
- 44:54Speaker 2: by the statement.
- 44:56Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something. I have MBS in my pool
- 44:58Speaker 1: this week. It has nothing that people are just like,
- 45:01Speaker 1: you're not getting thirty points again or whatever it was.
- 45:03Speaker 1: You're not getting three for two touchdowns all that. But
- 45:06Speaker 1: what people forget is you need one for eighty and
- 45:08Speaker 1: a touchdown and that's enough. Like that crushes at this
- 45:11Speaker 1: price with no value on the slate. He's not Camara,
- 45:14Speaker 1: so you already got to a leverage option there on
- 45:16Speaker 1: his own team. He's not Taysom Hill. When we got
- 45:18Speaker 1: other cheap tight ends to fill it out, I'll have
- 45:20Speaker 1: some Taysom. But I'm saying that's just the reason why
- 45:22Speaker 1: I forty four hundred. He's a bit higher than some
- 45:24Speaker 1: of these three K guys people are trying to make work.
- 45:27Speaker 1: And I guess it was probably Mayo that sold me
- 45:29Speaker 1: on it a little bit. Was he's literally Shaheed for
- 45:31Speaker 1: cheaper in this offense. And people kept saying it about Shied.
- 45:35Speaker 1: They kept saying, Oh, you can't do it again this week. Bang,
- 45:37Speaker 1: can't do it again this week. Bang, And we only
- 45:39Speaker 1: need one Bang, Like I said, we need one.
- 45:41Speaker 2: Please please stop, you're at here talking me into playing
- 45:43Speaker 2: MBS today. Please can we make it? You got you
- 45:46Speaker 2: gotta make it stop.
- 45:47Speaker 1: I will stop, but I'll just say it's it's one time.
- 45:50Speaker 1: And the chub thing was just mentioned.
- 45:52Speaker 2: The chub thing is we have to get the official
- 45:56Speaker 2: on MBS before.
- 45:57Speaker 3: It's the same as I said last week.
- 45:58Speaker 4: But I agree with Tamba like he's so he's the
- 46:00Speaker 4: guy that it just takes one plays.
- 46:02Speaker 3: We saw it last week.
- 46:03Speaker 2: He had really am I really about to enter MVS
- 46:06Speaker 2: into my player today.
- 46:07Speaker 1: James Winston too, How does the game speed up quick?
- 46:09Speaker 1: That eighty yard bomb Whenever it's like, oh, I can't
- 46:12Speaker 1: take this anymore? MVS again. Oh yeah, they do run
- 46:14Speaker 1: the same ship with that.
- 46:16Speaker 2: I come full circle and end up shipping with Jamie
- 46:20Speaker 2: Stack with MVS on the other side.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Even more in it. I do want to say this
- 46:27Speaker 1: last thing before we go to the next game, and
- 46:28Speaker 1: I got something for that too. But the Chubb thing
- 46:30Speaker 1: was in the tidbits. I know there's a game on Thursday,
- 46:33Speaker 1: but he was very upbeat about all. He's good, he's
- 46:36Speaker 1: back and ready. It's a great matchup on the ground.
- 46:39Speaker 1: And the FanDuel key was what you mentioned. Who just
- 46:41Speaker 1: back to it because somebody brought it up. It's the
- 46:43Speaker 1: It's literally the same thing we said about Kamara, but
- 46:46Speaker 1: on the Browns it's like he's the same price, but
- 46:48Speaker 1: you he's the better fit for FanDuel. That's why. Yeah,
- 46:51Speaker 1: he actually isn't play today, by the way. He keeps
- 46:53Speaker 1: popping up for me.
- 46:54Speaker 2: But you say, hey, I didn't say it. I'm sticking
- 46:59Speaker 2: to my deals.
- 47:01Speaker 1: An ugly slade. I gotta go back and find one thing. Oh,
- 47:03Speaker 1: shut up to my boy, Aaron Rasmus, he's back, all love, brother.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Remember when you told me the Ravens were gonna get
- 47:09Speaker 1: destroyed by bo Nicks and we rolled them. I appreciate
- 47:11Speaker 1: you coming back and circle them back and it brings
- 47:13Speaker 1: us into a Ravens game. So tell me what's gonna
- 47:15Speaker 1: happen in this one? Ravens at the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Hoop.
- 47:19Speaker 1: I'm sticking with you. I know you. You don't want
- 47:21Speaker 1: to talk about that last game anymore, so we'll move on.
- 47:23Speaker 1: But do you want to talk about Russ? Russ is
- 47:25Speaker 1: cooking now. There's no way he fails this week with
- 47:28Speaker 1: a big total at home against these Ravens. But let's
- 47:30Speaker 1: get thoughts Russell Wilson and the Steelers at home versus
- 47:33Speaker 1: the Ravens.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Aaron got putting time out for
- 47:36Speaker 2: like a couple of weeks before he resurfaced here.
- 47:39Speaker 1: He's like, good dude, man, he circled back. Everybody else
- 47:42Speaker 1: runs off. He's coming back. Shout at Aaron, man, he's
- 47:44Speaker 1: the man.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Yeah he got hey, got you gotta have your takes
- 47:47Speaker 2: and stick with him. Unfortunately, that was a really bad one.
- 47:49Speaker 2: And I'm completely wrong. Uh yeah, So man, it's like it
- 47:57Speaker 2: is Russ cooking this week, like fifty nine high hundred
- 48:00Speaker 2: on DraftKings. Uh, not many quarterbacks we want to play.
- 48:04Speaker 2: We know how to beat the ra or you know
- 48:06Speaker 2: how you can beat the Ravens passing the ball. Good
- 48:09Speaker 2: connection with Pickens, Oh gosh, it's another it's another play
- 48:14Speaker 2: a heye, because I just cannot stand this guy. But
- 48:16Speaker 2: I'm going to be in on some rough stuff today.
- 48:18Speaker 2: I mean, it does look like he has a really
- 48:19Speaker 2: good connection with Pickens, and you know, Pickens one of
- 48:22Speaker 2: those guys just got to give him a chance and
- 48:24Speaker 2: he can make a play. That's what he's been doing.
- 48:26Speaker 2: So I'm interested in russa Pickens. You can add Friarmouth
- 48:30Speaker 2: in there at tight end, coming in at really no
- 48:32Speaker 2: ownership because there's so many cheap plays. But that's the
- 48:36Speaker 2: kind of obvious side. I think Russell is gonna get
- 48:38Speaker 2: a little bit of ownership stay not a ton, but
- 48:40Speaker 2: people are liking that. Getting to Lamar, though, on the
- 48:43Speaker 2: slate is pretty Getting to on the slate is pretty difficult.
- 48:47Speaker 2: I will say, like there's not a ton of value.
- 48:50Speaker 2: The stack stacks have to look a little bit awkward,
- 48:53Speaker 2: But you know, this has one of the highest totals
- 48:55Speaker 2: on the slate, maybe the highest forty eight. I have
- 48:58Speaker 2: to get some exposure or to lamar him, to say
- 49:03Speaker 2: Flowers to Bateman, Mark Andrews. I mean, I'm going to
- 49:06Speaker 2: continue to play Mark Andrews like no one wants to
- 49:08Speaker 2: play him ever, and he's just been playing much much better.
- 49:11Speaker 2: So I like lamar to Andrews, Flowers Bateman. But again,
- 49:15Speaker 2: it does get somewhat difficult with these stacks because the
- 49:18Speaker 2: salary does add up pretty quickly. But I'm forcing in
- 49:21Speaker 2: some Lamar stuff today no matter what I no matter
- 49:24Speaker 2: what I do. I mean, they have their projective to
- 49:25Speaker 2: score twenty six. I think the Steelers can do enough
- 49:28Speaker 2: to make this a little bit of a back and
- 49:30Speaker 2: forth type game. Then Derrick Henry, you know, probably no ownership,
- 49:36Speaker 2: three four five percent, you know, three touchdown upside every
- 49:41Speaker 2: time he takes the field. So you give me a
- 49:43Speaker 2: guy that I think can score three touchdowns had no ownership.
- 49:46Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure to play him a little bit today. Uh.
- 49:50Speaker 2: You know the difficult part with Henry is we have
- 49:52Speaker 2: CMC there that everyone's gonna want to play we have
- 49:55Speaker 2: Kamara there that everyone's gonna want to play. There's no
- 49:57Speaker 2: way he gets ownership. He'll get some worshipping my lineups today.
- 50:01Speaker 1: Yeah, Henry is the king Man. He could be back.
- 50:04Speaker 1: This is the thing everyone's talking about. The King CMC
- 50:06Speaker 1: is back, which will get there later. But two hundred
- 50:08Speaker 1: bucks less. This could be again not the best matchup
- 50:10Speaker 1: on the ground, but this one to me title I
- 50:13Speaker 1: just I know it was the second. This is the
- 50:14Speaker 1: second game. I said earlier to Jared that there was
- 50:17Speaker 1: three games where you could just not need it even
- 50:19Speaker 1: though it looks good on paper. This could end up
- 50:21Speaker 1: being the spot because it does have It's maybe it's
- 50:24Speaker 1: in the back of my mind because a Thursday. But
- 50:25Speaker 1: Washington Philly, Remember we said that title that total now
- 50:28Speaker 1: they almost that total came got a little bit there
- 50:30Speaker 1: more late because of the Barkley stuff breaking it off quickly,
- 50:33Speaker 1: but other than that, it was way way under. And
- 50:36Speaker 1: this one just worries me. AFC North Battle Tomlin versus Harribaugh.
- 50:39Speaker 1: Both teams like to run it a lot more. If
- 50:41Speaker 1: you got the stone. It's one of the bigger swings
- 50:43Speaker 1: to the rush attempts than the pass attempts, but that
- 50:46Speaker 1: f all spoiler alert people that want the stone, the
- 50:48Speaker 1: f still exists for the Ravens pass East, so take
- 50:51Speaker 1: it away. Title. What do you got?
- 50:52Speaker 4: Yeah, all year, the Ravens are gonna be probably the
- 50:54Speaker 4: biggest pass fun out there. You can't run on them,
- 50:56Speaker 4: You're gonna have to pass on them. And I'm with you, tamp.
- 51:00Speaker 4: I don't like this game. I'm not playing any Ravens.
- 51:03Speaker 4: It's just so expensive. Like sure, you can always play
- 51:05Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, you can always play Lamar. I only have
- 51:08Speaker 4: so many lineups I play. I gotta make Stans zero Ravens.
- 51:11Speaker 4: For me, Steel Side was tough because the Russell Wilson
- 51:14Speaker 4: thing I was going back and forth on. I ultimately
- 51:17Speaker 4: decided I'm not playing him. A I just don't think
- 51:19Speaker 4: he's great at football. The second reason he's catching steam
- 51:23Speaker 4: because of the nature of the late and the Ravens
- 51:26Speaker 4: being a pass funnel. But the most important I came back,
- 51:28Speaker 4: just say six or seven percent, ninety nine percent of
- 51:31Speaker 4: those ligneups are gonna be George Pickens. My favorite guy
- 51:34Speaker 4: to play is George Pickens. But I'm not playing Friar
- 51:37Speaker 4: with I'm not playing Austin. I'm not playing Van Jefferson,
- 51:40Speaker 4: so I don't want seven percent of Russ Wilson to
- 51:43Speaker 4: have the exact same skinny stack as everyone else.
- 51:45Speaker 3: I'll play Pickens by himself. He can catch a bomb.
- 51:48Speaker 4: They are throwing a little more and a lot of
- 51:50Speaker 4: Pickens routes are go routes. Russell Wilson's final throwing it
- 51:53Speaker 4: up to him. George Pickens is a grown ass man,
- 51:55Speaker 4: so I'm gonna play some of him.
- 51:57Speaker 3: But I just don't think I'm gonna get to Russ
- 51:58Speaker 3: like it's so gross too.
- 52:00Speaker 4: But I think I'm gonna go like Drake, May you
- 52:02Speaker 4: guys talk me into tool a little bit. We'll get
- 52:04Speaker 4: to a couple other spots. So Pickens or bus for
- 52:07Speaker 4: me in this one.
- 52:08Speaker 1: I want to call this so real quick shout out
- 52:10Speaker 1: to It's bow Time twenty five hundred K winner. Last week,
- 52:13Speaker 1: his brother Dirty chic in Our Discord won one hundred
- 52:17Speaker 1: and forty K and he won a hundred on the
- 52:19Speaker 1: same day. They both shipped one hundred K in different tournaments,
- 52:23Speaker 1: and then Dirty sheic our Boy came second place to
- 52:25Speaker 1: his brother for forty K and the other one for
- 52:28Speaker 1: one hundred and forty, So shout out to those boys.
- 52:30Speaker 1: That must have been a good week, good weekend finishing
- 52:33Speaker 1: it up, and then a good week I had. You
- 52:34Speaker 1: can't lose money now the rest of the season, he said, though,
- 52:36Speaker 1: you gotta be smart with that money. It's bow time,
- 52:38Speaker 1: so make sure put some of that away. Don't go
- 52:41Speaker 1: blow it all today on a guy like Drake May
- 52:43Speaker 1: Maybe what do you say? We could keep it rolling.
- 52:45Speaker 1: But my boy, Aaron Rasmus back in there right against
- 52:49Speaker 1: me again Pittsburgh, you said, what's Russ cooking out? My smoke?
- 52:52Speaker 1: Alarm moms went off in my office here because it
- 52:55Speaker 1: might be We'll have to wait that. I love to
- 52:57Speaker 1: call out, though title that you have one of the
- 52:59Speaker 1: most interesting ways I got to stack this today and
- 53:01Speaker 1: it's worked a lot in my experience in the past.
- 53:04Speaker 1: It's Russ Wilson, Mike Williams, and one of Calvin Austen
- 53:09Speaker 1: or Friarmuth and then run it back with Zay on
- 53:11Speaker 1: the other side. The reason I mentioned it first without Friarmuth,
- 53:14Speaker 1: and you could do it with Andrews on the other side.
- 53:16Speaker 1: But I really like just filling up all the wide
- 53:18Speaker 1: receiver positions and let's just say, what would the Ravens
- 53:21Speaker 1: be smartest to do? Very simple? Shut down Pickens, Let
- 53:25Speaker 1: Russ throw to Mike Williams, Calvin Austen, Van Jefferson and
- 53:29Speaker 1: Pat Fryarmouth. That's a good setup. But the Ravens still
- 53:32Speaker 1: get smoked in the secondary. So if that happens, you
- 53:35Speaker 1: could see it where all the Russ lineups like, yeah,
- 53:37Speaker 1: but Pickens killed me. Yeah, that's what happens because you
- 53:40Speaker 1: went and did what everybody else does with Russ. He
- 53:42Speaker 1: is the best play with him, but you have to
- 53:44Speaker 1: think outside the box. And if you have a portfolio
- 53:46Speaker 1: of lineups and you're playing a certain percentage of Russ,
- 53:48Speaker 1: I would highly recommend you put some of it with Russ.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Williams zay. If you want to add in Calvin Austen,
- 53:54Speaker 1: do that too. I like Calvin Austin today as a value.
- 53:57Speaker 1: He is one hundred dollars more than Boute today with
- 54:00Speaker 1: Greg May. So you can do that too, you know.
- 54:02Speaker 1: So keep it rolling with these rhymes.
- 54:04Speaker 4: But anything else your favorite is awesome, your favorite if
- 54:06Speaker 4: you had to pick outside of obviously Pickens.
- 54:09Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I've seen a lot of sharper dudes following
- 54:13Speaker 1: the tidbits and stuff too that he didn't make it in.
- 54:15Speaker 1: But a lot of people that I follow, like a
- 54:16Speaker 1: lot of his overprops today, and they do more dissection
- 54:19Speaker 1: of the data. It's kind of like when people say,
- 54:21Speaker 1: I don't make my own projections, just easier to take
- 54:23Speaker 1: a site, use it and play with them and figure
- 54:25Speaker 1: it out and finagle them. That's the same type of
- 54:27Speaker 1: thing I look at there. I'm not digging into deep
- 54:29Speaker 1: dive all the data. Other people do it, and then
- 54:32Speaker 1: I take that information to move with it. I think
- 54:34Speaker 1: he's interesting here at thirty six hundred on a slate
- 54:36Speaker 1: where we're starve for value. So you know Zay Flowers,
- 54:39Speaker 1: Henry Andrew's other side. If you can get to Lamar lineups,
- 54:42Speaker 1: it's very difficult, but if you can, you could easily
- 54:44Speaker 1: see where he smokes Russ and puts Russ. He got
- 54:47Speaker 1: the Michelin stars and Russ is back in the sandwich
- 54:50Speaker 1: shop doing work and Lamar got the Michelin stars. Maybe
- 54:53Speaker 1: so we'll have to see that, but I like this
- 54:55Speaker 1: matchup if you're going for stacking it otherwise, I'm with you. Title.
- 54:58Speaker 1: It's one that I think you could just leave Loan
- 55:00Speaker 1: and get away with it because it could be an
- 55:01Speaker 1: under Yep, absolutely, all right, take us into this next one. Man,
- 55:05Speaker 1: it's your boy. Gosh, when is Jedna gonna show up?
- 55:08Speaker 2: Man?
- 55:08Speaker 1: He keeps doing his little twenty point thing or fifteen
- 55:11Speaker 1: point thing. When's he gonna break a slate himself? Yeah?
- 55:13Speaker 4: You owe my ass. Last week I was like, good
- 55:16Speaker 4: luck fading this dude. Yeah, good luck playing and that
- 55:18Speaker 4: was awful. It's the first week I'm not gonna play him.
- 55:21Speaker 4: So here goes three touchdowns, one hundred eighty yards, all
- 55:24Speaker 4: the gritties. It's just like what we talked about earlier,
- 55:27Speaker 4: like he really has to do it today. He's got
- 55:30Speaker 4: to outscore the CMCs, the Kamars of the world, maybe
- 55:33Speaker 4: by a decent bit because like there's mid tier, cheaper
- 55:37Speaker 4: receivers that are solid, but the running back position, like
- 55:40Speaker 4: you'd have to get the Nick Chubbs of the world
- 55:42Speaker 4: and stuff. Right, Yeah, it's really really hard for me
- 55:45Speaker 4: to say I'm not doing it, but I'm not doing it.
- 55:47Speaker 4: My favorite Viking actually, and I don't like this game
- 55:49Speaker 4: much is TJ. Hockinson, though. I mean he might be
- 55:52Speaker 4: two percent owned, and again it's tight ends just not great.
- 55:56Speaker 4: He's in the mid tier where no one else is
- 55:57Speaker 4: gonna go. They're gonna go really cheap to these guys
- 56:00Speaker 4: the Hunter, Henry's, John Smith Allen's of the world, but
- 56:03Speaker 4: they're going to go up from Kelsey. The snapcount still
- 56:05Speaker 4: it's about fifty percent, but a lot of them are
- 56:07Speaker 4: high leverage targets.
- 56:09Speaker 3: And eleven points last week.
- 56:11Speaker 4: If he falls in the box and goes five for sixty,
- 56:14Speaker 4: falls in the box eighteen at two percent ownership.
- 56:17Speaker 3: Like TJ.
- 56:18Speaker 4: Hockinson's working his way back from the ACL, he has
- 56:20Speaker 4: a good quarterback defense.
- 56:22Speaker 3: Focus on Jefferson. I'm gonna be buying into TJ.
- 56:24Speaker 4: Hockinson, so he's the only Viking for me and the
- 56:28Speaker 4: Titan side, I think it's just Kelvin Ridley and Titans defense.
- 56:32Speaker 4: I saw someone mentioned Nick West Perkakine earlier. We talked
- 56:36Speaker 4: about it last week. The dude always falls in the
- 56:38Speaker 4: box and it is value is cheap or values tough
- 56:42Speaker 4: on this late I still don't think I'm gonna get
- 56:44Speaker 4: there myself. Ridley's been great as of late, big play
- 56:47Speaker 4: upside and Titans defense for very cheap. At twenty three hundred,
- 56:51Speaker 4: I will say they are getting some ownership at home,
- 56:54Speaker 4: though I don't hate it.
- 56:55Speaker 3: So Hockinson Ridley Titans, d Yeah.
- 56:57Speaker 1: We got to flip the bill this week. Get your
- 56:59Speaker 1: get Jefferson Tyreek lineups and talk to talk me to Jefferson.
- 57:05Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, it's really tough. It's what
- 57:07Speaker 1: you said, we don't if. The difference is we don't
- 57:09Speaker 1: have anything to make it work, so it almost doubles down.
- 57:11Speaker 1: We haven't seen it from him yet. Darnald looked horrible
- 57:14Speaker 1: last week. That doesn't matter to me because that's one
- 57:15Speaker 1: week's sample. You know, I don't give a shit. It's like,
- 57:17Speaker 1: let's just move on. But the problem is I still
- 57:19Speaker 1: have to have a way to see it work for DFS.
- 57:22Speaker 1: And that's the thing is, like Jefferson could have his
- 57:23Speaker 1: big game finally today, show up randomly and be involved.
- 57:26Speaker 1: But it's like, man, there is so many other plays
- 57:29Speaker 1: on this slate and we just don't have enough to
- 57:31Speaker 1: make it work. It's gonna you're gonna need two cheap
- 57:33Speaker 1: tight ends to really bust it. You're gonna need estimate
- 57:36Speaker 1: to come through. You're gonna really need something to boost
- 57:38Speaker 1: it and make it happen. So I really struggle with it. Hawkinson.
- 57:41Speaker 1: I thought was a great call out because he's right
- 57:43Speaker 1: in that mid range of the three K thirty five
- 57:46Speaker 1: hundred type tight ends. We know, we like Ridley. I'm
- 57:48Speaker 1: gonna kick it to Hoop on this. I know Ridley's
- 57:50Speaker 1: got to make your pool, even as it's just a
- 57:52Speaker 1: one off, our guy Juice probably stacking up the whole
- 57:54Speaker 1: damn thing over there. He's getting their Nick Westbrook, a
- 57:56Speaker 1: keyne Ridley, Levis, Jefferson. He's gonna win all the money
- 58:00Speaker 1: over on FanDuel again like he did last year. But
- 58:02Speaker 1: give us your thoughts Hoop on this one. Titans at
- 58:04Speaker 1: Home versus Darnold, who was certainly seeing ghosts again last week,
- 58:07Speaker 1: it looked.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, not a ton in this one. I like
- 58:10Speaker 2: the Hockinson call. I actually pulled up and I really
- 58:13Speaker 2: didn't have much of him. I'm including him nine targets
- 58:16Speaker 2: last week, like you said, like, even if he's not
- 58:18Speaker 2: playing close to one hundred percent of the snaps, when
- 58:20Speaker 2: he's out there, he's gonna be targeted and you'll be
- 58:23Speaker 2: out there in high leverage situation. So I really like
- 58:26Speaker 2: the Hockinson call, Like there's no case to really make
- 58:31Speaker 2: for Jefferson besides the fact that he's like unowned, and
- 58:34Speaker 2: if you're playing one to fifty, it's much easier to
- 58:36Speaker 2: play Justin Jefferson than if you're handbuilding three teams. It's
- 58:40Speaker 2: probably impossible to get there. So for me, i'm playing
- 58:42Speaker 2: one to fifty, I can go to Justin Jefferson and
- 58:47Speaker 2: put like five percent ownership in on him, and I'm
- 58:50Speaker 2: way over the field really. I mean, he's basically coming
- 58:53Speaker 2: in unowned and I'll be able to find some combinations
- 58:55Speaker 2: that work. But I get it, if you're handbuilding, even
- 58:58Speaker 2: if you're building twenty teams, it's difficult to get to
- 59:00Speaker 2: a guy like Jefferson. So I wouldn't play him unless
- 59:03Speaker 2: you're playing a lot of lineups. So I'm playing a
- 59:05Speaker 2: lot of lineups today. I will include him because he's
- 59:07Speaker 2: unowned and it's easy for me to get him in there.
- 59:10Speaker 2: There's like no case. So like you guys said, like,
- 59:12Speaker 2: how do you make the argument to play him over
- 59:15Speaker 2: some of these other guys outside of ownership? So in
- 59:18Speaker 2: I'm out on like Aaron Jones, there's too many good
- 59:21Speaker 2: running backs. Cam Akers is starting to get a little
- 59:23Speaker 2: more work, So definitely Hockinson for sure. On the Viking side,
- 59:26Speaker 2: my favorite Jefferson as an unknown play, which is another
- 59:31Speaker 2: one of those things like last year, remember we're just
- 59:32Speaker 2: jamming these high end wide receivers. Tyreek unowned today, Justin
- 59:37Speaker 2: Jefferson unowned today, Amanra Saint Brown unnowned today. It's like crazy,
- 59:42Speaker 2: just one year, how things need to like totally totally flip.
- 59:44Speaker 2: We're playing CD LAMB every single slate last year whenever
- 59:47Speaker 2: we can get him in there, and just not the
- 59:50Speaker 2: case this year. It's kind kind of crazy. Even Jamar Chase,
- 59:52Speaker 2: like Jamar Chase so expensive, hard to get him in there.
- 59:55Speaker 2: It's like times have change. But yeah, in on Jefferson
- 59:59Speaker 2: to say the least, and then yeah, just going to
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: be Ridley on the other side. The price on FanDuel
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: is still really cheap. He'll be pretty popular over there,
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: but you know a lot of targets, red zone targets,
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: like he's their main guy and fits any game script,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: likely playing from behind. They play from behind every week
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: and he's crushed recently. So good with Ridley on the
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: other side, but that's it.
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- 1:00:49Speaker 1: My final thoughts on this one, just the justin Jefferson
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: stuff is the you know, it's almost like back in
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: the day though, where even DeVante Adams when he used
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: to be eighty eight hundred cup when he was eighty
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: eight hundred, they could put up third and not show
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: off anywhere near a winning lineup because there's just too
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: many guys priced at six k and fifty six hundred
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: and fifty three hundred that can put up twenty eight
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: or almost the same raw points and still you know,
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: crush for two thousand and three thousand less. So that's
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: really what it comes down to, and just the way
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: this Slate's shaking out. We can move on, though. Let's
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: go Colts at the Jets. This interesting one on the
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Stone two titles, so you can take us through this one.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: First Colts of the Jets. Aaron Rodgers is finally his week.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: We got to get this guy going at some point
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: with your boy speaking to Devonte Adams, what do you
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: think of this spot?
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if Whoop's gonna like it. I'm
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: playing these Jets.
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: It has a lot to do with the Slate, like
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: me not loving many stacks. The main reason is these
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: Colts absolutely stink. Their defense is atrocious. I almost still
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: wish it was Flack Gold to push him a little more,
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: but he's been so bad.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: I still don't think Richardson is any better, but that
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: is something to note. I'm gonna be playing in a
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: lot of ways though. I'm gonna play Rogers with Davante
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: and Garrett Wilson or you can't pick one of them too,
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: because he is just fifty five hundred Rogers that is,
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: and you hope it is just all Wilson or Adams.
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: I will have some of both, and yeah, fool me one,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: Shame on me. Fool me twice. So, like, what's the
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: with the saying, go, I'm going back to breeze.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: He can.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: You can keep adding that number up is once, it's
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: not twice, it's not three. Just keep going. I'm gonna
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: get it for sure, I get it.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: How many championships you know they're getting all these ones?
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: Go for it.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: These Colts are awful. They're at home decent sized favorites.
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: He's still like so he he had eighty two percent
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: of snaps last week, which was more than he's had
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: since week seven. Brail now and finally went a little less.
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: He's minus one forty to store. He can catch passes
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: out of the batfield. He's Colt Sting. He's explosive. He's
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: a clear pivot from all these other running backs recentcy
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: bias and rightfully so these everyone's writing off these Jets,
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: Rogers dust, Priest's dust, this ownership team total's fine. Colt
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: ste Stings, I'm playing the Jets man. Yeah, could burn me,
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: but I'm playing them in all the ways Rogers with
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: the Adams or Wilson. I don't think I'm a mess
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: with the conflines of the world unless you talk me
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: into it. I'm playing britsall on lineups. I don't really
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: have Rodgers and I hope some jet is probably on
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: the optimum.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Oh man, Marley got you on this one. Called to
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: DST to keep betting against old guys this week and
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: it's been working out for him against everybody Tyson and
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: then in the MMA streets last night again. So there
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: you go, bet against Aaron Rodgers. The one thing I
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: will say, and who clearly doesn't like him, but I'm
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: way more on title side here is it's thet again.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: I know what we got for a result last week
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: was the shit soup that Russ Wilson might cook up
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: today for everybody. But I will say it's the same spot.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: It was the same matchups, the same shitty defense, and
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: he couldn't get it done there. Probably won't get it
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: done again, is what Hoop's gonna say. But why did
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: everyone play it last week? Because they like the spot.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: This spot is the same, The prices are the same
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: or less. I think you can play them with Adams
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: just hopefully the two touchdown game, and if you want
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: to put Conklin in just to round it out, get
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: a cheap tight end there and then fit everything else
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: the same. It fits in a lot of the same
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: spots that your Jamis Winston Stacks fit that your Drake
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: may Stacks fit. It fits the same. It's just whether
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: or not it does the trick. So, who, I know
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: you hate it, but I'll kick it to you. What
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: do you like in this game?
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: Well, I mean you just said it four times? Why
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: why are you assuming that I hate it?
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: You the way you your body language associated to work Lange?
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you're reading the body language, and
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: good read the body I say, take because I think
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: I've probably played this more than anyone on the show
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: this year, right, I've endorsed it all season long, and
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: it's fucking not paid off. You think my ass is
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: quitting now, I'm in. I'm not. I'm not quitting this yet.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: I gotta keep going. I have no choice, man, I'm invested,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: gotta gotta gotta see this through. Uh So in on
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: it more on the FanDuel side, to be honest with you,
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: but I'm playing it on on DK too. Definitely, gonna
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: have a lot of briefs, a lot of Garrett Wilson,
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: a lot of DeVante Adams. It's painful, it's been painful
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: all year, lost a lot of money playing it, but
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: I'm not done yet. I've lost money on dumber stuff
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: in with you guys again, probably more so on the
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: FanDuel side, just because I'm struggling to find quarterbacks a
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: little bit more over there that I like. But I'm
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: playing all the pieces on DKs well, I just don't
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna fully get to like Aaron Rodgers.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Tough part is the runbacks, because there's really nothing you
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: want to play on the cold sides. I don't think
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: you need to. I don't think you need to run
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: him back with anyone. I will say Aaron Richard, Aaron Gosh,
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Anthony richardson Double Air.
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: It's not bad enough. You don't need to know his
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: first name.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, sixty four hundred for Richardson on fanduels interesting.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: I mean, he's way less than anyone else over there.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: There's a lot of things you can do, Like McCaffrey's
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: expensive at ninety eight hundred over on FanDuel. There's a
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: lot of unique things you can do with Anthony Richardson
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: over on FanDuel. Don't necessarily have to pair him with anyone.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: I don't think at that price tag you can kind
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: of run naked and then play one of Breis Hall,
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, Davante Adams or multiple. I mean you could
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: play two of those guys. I think with Anthony Richardson,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: I hope he runs into and we get a high
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: scoring game and it allows two of these Jets guys
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: to get there as well. So I don't hate that
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: sort of build on fan duel. But you know, long
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: story short, I'm with you, guys. I've talked about it.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: I'm sure we're going to be back here next week
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: talking shit about it. But at that point I might
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: have to bail if it doesn't go well this week,
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: I might have to bail for what week twelve of
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: the NFL season. We'll see. But now I like it.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: You know, at the end of that game was last week,
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: I mean, they're getting their ass kick, got absolutely embarrassed.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: But Aaron Rodgers just feeding DeVante Adams, just absolutely feeding him.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Maybe like they start the game with that this week.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: I think that would be something they should look into
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: potentially doing so in on it. It hasn't worked all year.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: Maybe this is a week eleven.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Yeah, who put on the chapstick.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: Now it's not Yeah, that's the that's the towel, that's
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: the tel right there. When I'm in on something like
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: the chapstick goes out.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: Really, what I was to do was, you know, talk
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: you into shitting on Aaron Rodgers so we could run
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: that clip back next week. You finally get the three
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: for three hundred.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: You don't have to talk me into anything else. You
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: maybe got my ass to play MVS this week.
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. And now, I mean he's actually
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: way more expensive on FanDuel, but it's just how it
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: sets up. And also the receivers like Devanta Adams is
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: the same price over on FanDuel on a touchdown type site.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: I love that because it's two touchdowns to him. That's
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: a big game for Rogers and for Adams, so I
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: think that's good.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: Also, it's just he's just significantly cheaper compared to all
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: the other guys over on FanDuel, like in the range
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: that he's in on DK, like he's another step below
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: those guys over on FanDuel.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, he's the same price as Kirk Cousins
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: over there, And who knows what you think of that
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: or others do. But yeah, I will say we might
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: have to pull the UNO reverse next week because nine
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: hundred people watching is more than last week. At this time,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: still only three hundred and sixty seven likes, And now
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: I start to think it's the members holding out because
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: they don't want people to see the stone. But you
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: guys know, when you join ship a Nation, we're a
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: number Our number one thing is about giving back. So
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: we might just give back the whole thing next week
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: and do it un no reverse and make it the
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: free show this week. Though the giveaway is not a giveaway,
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: it's a the best deal you could possibly get. This
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: ends on Monday. You want to make sure you get
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: in now fifty percent off your first month over at
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: ship in Nation, so as little as thirty four fifty,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: which is basically the weekly price for most of our stuff,
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: and that gets you everything. If you go to the
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: forty nine to fifty the ninety nine dollars all access package,
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: that gets you everything we offer, plus ship devisers. So
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: check that out, go over to the site, make sure
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: you're getting in on the action. There only other thing
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I'll add to this game then is the Jonathan Taylor side.
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: This reminds me a lot of the Kien Williams stuff
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: I brought up earlier. If you like him to speed
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: up the game with your Rogers stacks, put him in
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: with those, because that's how he gets going. That's how
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: you beat the Jets on the ground, roll him through,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: run the stack back to make it so that Rogers
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: does have to pass. You had the stone, you would
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: see how often they pass, how often Wilson Adams are
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: on the field, how much they're getting targeted. Same with Conklin.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: That's why I mentioned him earlier. But if you don't
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: like it, I think you should just pair up Jonathan
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Taylor with the Colts d that simple. Just end it there,
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: move on. I'm not trying to figure out these wide
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: receivers or pay up for them. I think that's kind
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: of the setup for me there. But let's move on.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: Title anything else you want to mention on that game.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: If not, you could take us into the Falcons with
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: a matchup at in Denver against Bonnicks at home with
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: the Broncos.
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: This, guessing, is your third game. You have no interest.
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: This is a game I have no interest. So I'm
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: just gonna shout out Mark f for winning the two
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: K and MMA yesterday for eighteen K.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: I love that call out and he said he's flying.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: He's always flying on Sunday. Yeah he's rich. Yeah, well
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: he is rich. He won the Milli last year. Y
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: so well we'll just say that about him. But we
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: love Mark. He's a good dude. We got to meet
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: up with him in Arizona last year. Awesome guy, came
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: over to the house, hung out, went to the golf course.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: All in that and more so shut up to Mark Hoop.
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you then, because little Jordan Humphrey
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: back in your life again this week thirty two hundred.
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: You know, people like Sutton what is it delay they like?
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: And then you got little Jordan Humphrey there. So what's
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one?
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: Yeah, the little little Jordan at thirty two. I mean
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: it is uh if you are playing bow knicks, I
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: mean I guess potentially you could go there if you
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: like zero to him. I mean he gets like target,
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: So it's not like he's just not like three six
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: five three thirty two hundred, no value. I'm not gonna
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: argue for for little Jordan anymore, but might have might
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: have a few shares in my life today. I mean,
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: I'm like some of the bow Nick stuff, Like he's
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: looked pretty damn good. Uh, his connection with Sutton looks solid.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: It is tough though. Again it's very similar to the
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Pittsburgh situation, the Russell Wilson stuff, where it's like, I
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: thought it was a really good point you guys brought up,
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: where it's like, if you're stacking Russ, it's probably just
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: with Pickens. It's very similar with the bow Knick situation,
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: like if you're stacking bow Nicks, it's just to Sutton
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: and that's what everyone else is doing. So I'm fine
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: playing those stacks. I'm fine, I'm playing the Russ stuff.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: But you got to be I think, creative with what
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: you do the rest of your lineup if you are
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: like handbuilding. So I'm in on bo Nicks, I guess
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: at home, like the Falcons have given it up a
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: few times this year, but it is difficult outside of Sutton,
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: Like there's not many other plays you want estimate forty
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: five hundred getting a lot of work. One of the
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: I probably like, really the only cheap running back on
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: the slate on DK. I think he's he's fine Drake,
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: London Pitt, maybe a little bit of bije on you know,
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: coming back. I mean, the only way I'm really going
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: to play the Falcon stuff is if I'm on the
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: Denver stuff. Like, if you're not playing the Denver stuff.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: I don't think you need to play the Falcon stuff
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: just because it's not a good spot in Denver. It's another,
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: you know, somewhat difficult spot to play, so kind of
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: where I'm.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: At, Yeah, I think that's a good point. I also
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: don't think you need to run it back at all,
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: just so they're they're the spot where they can spread
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: it out a bunch. It's not the other game. I
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: got one more. I'm gonna mention on that in a second.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: But the the setup here is, like, you know, Sutton,
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: who you mentioned Denver. The estimate thing is what I
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: want to talk to title about because I don't think
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: he would even be talked about if it wasn't this slate.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: I get it, like there's more potential for him, all
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: these other factors that people are bringing up. He's taken
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: over now, you know, I saw him, can't remember he
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: made the tidbits or almost did. Maybe I left about
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: on purpose because I just wasn't feeling it. But I
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: listened to somebody I was talking to you over text,
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, you got to get estimated there.
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: I was like, I just can list in two seconds
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: on my phone twelve running backs. I would want to
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: play in front of him, but I get it because
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: there's no value on this slate and it is a
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: way to change the build. So for me, that's why
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: he would make a little bit of you know, a
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: few lineups. The set up is because it does flip
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: the bild. But I'll let you go first and I'll
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: talk more if I think of it.
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's the salary, it's the flipping the build.
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: But I mean I running backs, you're giving up the
- 1:12:40Speaker 4: opportunity costs that running back you just can't miss today.
- 1:12:42Speaker 4: Like I I'd rather play the Gibbs, the Montgomerys, the
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: Jacobs of the world as pivots, but not completely flip
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: the build. I'd rather go Nick Chubb is my cheapest
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: and leverage it multiple ways and hope he falls into
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: then go estimate. I mean, they're still going to be
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: working in some of these other guys, like he's not
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: going to be eighty percent get eighty percent of the snaps.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: I don't think by any means I don't love it.
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: I don't fandel to be honest, I like it more
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: than draftings.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the stone up. Shout of that everybody.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: The four to one one came through. We got four
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: to eleven on there. We appreciate you. I guess the
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: only thing I was gonna say is like, you know,
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: if you get him in there, you could put him
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: with Denver d is certainly a way to go, like
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: if you don't like cousins or you don't feel goodbout
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: it's twenty nine hundred. Most people are playing the twenty
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars Jets or going down to twenty four
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: hundred dollars or twenty three with the Titans and the Bears,
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: or just slightly above. So I guess there's that angle
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: of it. But he does get you a little bit
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: different in the overall build because most people are paying
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: up for three running backs. So that's about the only
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: thing I can say. It's just we do have mid
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: range wide receivers already, so it's kind of more of
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: if you want to go the balanced build on today's slate.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: You may still end up with a cheap tight end,
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: that's just the nature of it. But it may get
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: you all like fifty three hundred and above wide receivers
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: while still getting two pretty good running backs and a
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: good quarterback that fits your stack. So who any other
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: thoughts on that? If not, you can take us into
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: the other one.
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: Just the one question I had for you guys is like, Bijeon,
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: what are you doing there?
- 1:14:04Speaker 4: Like?
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: Very similar to Kyron Williams. I'd say, like Kyen Williams,
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: Breise Hall, Bijeon Robinson, I think very hard to decide
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: what you do with those guys because their price very
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: closely to CMC, their price very closely to Kamara, Like
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: where do you stack him up? Are you guys playing them?
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: Just the overall thoughts on Bijon.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: Good call out, I'll go quick is just out put
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: him in these Bonick stacks. I want him to get
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: the game going early. I don't think he's again. I
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: think he's an excellent running back. I just don't think
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: on this slate the same as like Kyron Williams. I
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: kind of want because I like the Drake maystacks better.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: I have ways to go there even if I skip
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: those receivers. But his matchup is way better too, and
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: I feel less likely that he's going to be competing.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: I always say this, though, I'm not scared of Algier.
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: That's built in already. People have to remember that I've
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: went on rants about this already. Don't be mad when
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: Algier gets chances at the goal liner stakes a touchdown
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: that's already built in. You're playing Bijon hoping for twenty touches,
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: catches and a touchdown or two, But title you give
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: your thoughts on it.
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: Oh, that just reminded me.
- 1:15:05Speaker 4: At the one one yard line last week, Elgier zero,
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: Eli Elier zero, all right, fourth.
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: Down, I guess you gotta give it to our guy.
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: He'd still be running like inside doggy coaches just so dumb.
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: So yeah, the Bijon stuff, man, he's one of my
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: favorite plays last week. This week it's he's on the road.
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: They're dogs. But just the eye test wise, Bijon has
- 1:15:27Speaker 4: looked absolutely incredible this year, Like one catch, one run
- 1:15:31Speaker 4: to be sixty yards and completely nuke that eleven percent
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: ownership we have. I wouldn't be surprised if that's seven percent,
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: six percent. I do like Bruse Moore because home favorites
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: so that I expect the game script to be better
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: awful defense on the other side, But comparing the other
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: ones in the range, like I like Vjon more than Kyroen,
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: I like Bjon more than Derrick Henry, I like Djon
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: more than j T.
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: But I do like.
- 1:15:56Speaker 4: Gibbs, A Chain, Jacobs, Kamara, McCaffrey on more. So it's like,
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: I guess, how far do I want to spread out things?
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: Like I know I want a ton to see him.
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: See I'm gonna play a ton of Kamara. How many
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: pivots do I need up there? He's a solid play.
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: But I at the end of the day, I don't
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: think I'm gonna be able to get as much as
- 1:16:13Speaker 4: I want. But I'm never gonna talk you off a
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: Bijon seven percent on this slate, like he's so good,
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: he's so good.
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: I just feel like for me, it's exactly I mean
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: you said. But that's why when I build my portfolio out,
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: it's like, that's I know where he's going, he's gonna
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: be go. Oh, you only took a little bit of him.
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: I took him exactly where I want him. I want
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: him in bo Nick stacks because I think he gets
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: the motor going and if it worked, it doesn't. It
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: doesn't always work out that way, And obviously I have
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: the whole portfolio for a reason to play around with it.
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: But for the most part, that's what I'm looking at.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: Like I want if he speeds up the game for
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: us playing the bon Nick stacks, then I would want
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: to have that happen. But it just it's simple bon Nicks,
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: Sutton him and you'll fill out the spots the rest
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: of the way.
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: That's how That's how I feel. That's why I feel
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: like with all the Falcon guys, like the only way
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: I think it makes sense to be on even even
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: like London today, like I'm gonna play it. I just
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: there's just such better suited to be in the Denver
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: stacks if you're on boone Nix, like if you're not
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: on bone Nick stuff, Like I'd be totally fine being
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: off the Falcon stuff. I'm in on bo Nicks a
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: little bit, so I will be in on some of
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: this Falcon stuff, but like, I think it's totally fine
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: to be off this game completely, to be.
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: Honest, men, That's why I don't think I'll get to
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: the bj on as much.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we got two more games before we
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: get to that. I like this comment from my boy Aaron.
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: I got to give him some love too. We know
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: that the ownership will be spread. One thing I will
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: say though, about the exact combo you brought up, is
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: like Russ Wilson with Pickens is basically the same price
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: as Rogers with Adams, and that will not be the
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: same ownership. Adams will be much lower owned, especially coming
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: in with a Q tag. That's not real on in
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: that just that two v two just so you know.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: And that's an example where people will say all the
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: chalk got there. The Russ Wilson line has even more
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: chock in it because it adds Pickens, and Wilson probably
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: has more than Rogers, maybe doesn't. Maybe it comes in
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: close there, but it will not be close on Pickens
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: versus Adams. And that's where the setup lies. And that's
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: where the GENO to JSN A couple of weeks ago
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: or whenever it was, you know, a all to chalk hit.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: No nobody actually played JSN. Nobody played GENO. It was
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: like six percent and five percent or something. Like that.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: So little things like that, you gotta keep an eye
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: on a good call out by you. The last two
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: games and title I'm Gonna stay with you brought up
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: the CMC stuff, but I said earlier to Jared there
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: was three games. It's no shit that the last game
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: on this late stuff gets spread out. I was talking
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: about games that people are really heavily focused on. This
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: Seahawks forty nine ers was the one. I'm playing it
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: for stacks, almost like the Pittsburgh Baltimore. But I won't
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: be surprised if it is just McCaffrey that's needed or
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: just Jennings that is needed. And it's because it gets
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: spread out to too many guys between Walker, metcalf, JSN, Lockett,
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: Burner on the other side, McCaffrey, Debo, Jennings, Piercel, whoever else.
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: Like it's that's the kind of setup I could see
- 1:18:52Speaker 1: here as well, But obviously CMC the talking point go ahead, title.
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it to you.
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: I like Brack BERDYMC, Debo, Juwan, Jennings, Ricky Pearson, the
- 1:19:03Speaker 4: Eric Salver stuff, I'm not quite sure yet, Like he's
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: so cheap if you're playing purty stuff. The one sample
- 1:19:08Speaker 4: we do have with George Kittle off the field those
- 1:19:10Speaker 4: Week three deebo Is also didn't play that game.
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: He had eighty six percent of snaps.
- 1:19:15Speaker 4: He only got two targets though, like they have a
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: billion other guys. So I don't love Salbert. What are
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: your thoughts, Tampa, just say twenty teams or less? I
- 1:19:23Speaker 4: debated it last week. I talked a little Hoop on
- 1:19:25Speaker 4: the Friday Show making a rule to have at least
- 1:19:28Speaker 4: one forty nine er. Yeah, well, like it's hard to
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: see all of them busting, especially with Kittle with a
- 1:19:33Speaker 4: target tree that condenses more Like someone said, how to
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: see them see fail today? Well bred Perty might throw
- 1:19:38Speaker 4: for three hundred and fifty yards, Seahawks might control the clock.
- 1:19:43Speaker 4: Just first down, first down, first down, Kenneth Walker and
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: then just see MC gets stuffed a little bit. Maybe
- 1:19:50Speaker 4: he gets twenty two but gives Montgomery a chain. Jacobs
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: get thirty something, so there's ways he can. But if
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: he doesn't get there, it feels really hard to not
- 1:19:58Speaker 4: see Demo or Joe or Ricky piersall. So I love
- 1:20:02Speaker 4: these forty nine ers. I'm gonna play a bunch. I
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: am debating that rule, I like twenty teams or less.
- 1:20:07Speaker 4: CMC is the clear guy, like I wouldn't argue locking CMC.
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: I mean he's should be ten K ten point two
- 1:20:13Speaker 4: K cool to see CMC back in our lives. You're
- 1:20:16Speaker 4: gonna be playing the party stuff you can playing with CMC.
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: You can play party Juan deebo pearsoll pick two. You
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: can throw sowbrny in there. So forty nine er stuff
- 1:20:25Speaker 4: is gonna be popular, rightfully, so great spot the Seattle side, I.
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: Don't know, man, it's tough. It's tough.
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: But if I'm playing Seahawks stuff, I think I need
- 1:20:35Speaker 4: to go to some aj Barner for thirty one hundred
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: and double tight end stuff. He's been tight end one.
- 1:20:41Speaker 4: Tight End's not great. He's a pivot from those other
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: guys at lower ownership. And then I think it's really DK,
- 1:20:48Speaker 4: like I don't love Kenneth Walker is a pivot up
- 1:20:50Speaker 4: there from a chain. I prefer Gibbs, I prefer Montgomery,
- 1:20:52Speaker 4: I prefer Jacobs. You can go that route six and
- 1:20:55Speaker 4: that point dogs. I think it'd probably just be DK
- 1:20:57Speaker 4: or JSN though, and hope that's what carries on that side.
- 1:21:00Speaker 4: But I love the forty nine erstuff.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: Yeah, if you like this game that, so I was
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: gonna say, I certainly like DK as treating him like
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: Jamar Chase with Burrow, Like if DK has the big Day,
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: it's very likely Gino comes along with it. You could see,
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: and I know everyone's you know, gonna just say the
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: two weeks ago example, I just brought up where you
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: had GENO with JSN. There was no DK in that game.
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: And then on top of it, the other setup was
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: that you know, he got forty. If he doesn't get forty,
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: it's not necessarily needed. So you could have like a
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: JSN with a Jennings stack or a JSN with a
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: McCaffrey if I got Metcalf, though, I'm more likely or
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: the majority of the builds that have Metcalf are going
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: to have one of Gino or Purdy because it means
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: the game's going back and forth and we're having that
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: you can overstack it. Like the chat says, for sure,
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: I like the Geno Metcalf burner with a McCaffrey on
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: the other side. That cuts into the ownership and cuts
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: into the price point of that as well. Of Gino
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: is right there in the same price range. As all
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: these quarterbacks we've been talking about, the Russ Wilson's, the Winston's,
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: the Rogers of the Worlds, the Drake Mays, all of
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: them are in that same range that goes to Aaron's
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: point earlier where it gets spread out. I don't see
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: dk getting big ownership here. I don't see Bernard getting
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: any ownership. How do you cut into the McCaffrey stuff?
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: Is that way the one worry I do have? And
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: I'm playing a ton of Christian McCaffrey because sometimes you
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: just get away with it anyway. But is what you said,
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: if he has the twenty two point game and some
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: of those twelve running backs I talked about that I
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: listed off earlier, if they all have the bigger days,
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: and then it becomes a problem. And what if Jennings
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: still has like eighteen, you know, then he's really good
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: at fifty three hundred and maybe that's your Seattle guy,
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: last two hoop and then I'll kick it to you
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: because it's a popular game. But Deebo Samuel squeezed hard
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: here right between the middle, like he just can't get ownership.
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: People are gonna play Jennings, They're gonna play McCaffrey, they're
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: gonna poor McCaffrey, or they're gonna play both of those
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: two before they get to Samuel. I think at sixty
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: eight hundred we talked about ways that you can build
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: up your salary so that you can get to these
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: mid range wide receivers, but just not many people are
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: ending up there, so I think that's a key point.
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: And then the last one is Kenneth Walker opposite He's
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: the same. I mean, would you play there's money involved
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: here for sure, but it's would you play Chubb instead
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: of Kamara and Winston or would you play Walker instead
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: of Geno Purty? You can put him in pretty sacks,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: I guess, instead of McCaffrey, or with McCaffrey. How would
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: you handle that? Who Chubb or Walker as the double
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: average spot Walker?
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, just because I want to be more
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: in on this game than the other game. To touch
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: on titles point, I really like that call, and I
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: mean the way I'm building teams, I'm naturally gonna have that,
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: but I like, you know, one of these guys, like
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: it's just hard to imagine that a forty nine er
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: is not on the optimal lineup at the end of
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: the slate today, Like whether it's McCaffrey, Purdy, Debo, Jennings, Piercel,
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: you know I'd be shocked, you know, the debo thing.
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: I think I want to be way over on debo
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: because I know Perty's going to be the probably the
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: highest own quarterback. McCaffrey's gonna be him, and Kamara the
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: highest one running back. Jennings, he's going to be very
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: popular now at wide receiver, will get some ownership, but
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: he's gonna fall behind those other three forty nine ers guys,
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: So he's gonna be a big part of what I
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: do today. Pierce will a fine option to a lot
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: of different ways to go about stacking it too. Like
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: you can play purty with McCaffrey, you can play purty
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: with two pass catchers. I mean, just so many different
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: ways to go about it. And then the tight is
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: it sober? Is that how you pronounce his name? Not
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: as excited about him, but you know he'll be in
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: the pool and I'll get some exposure to him as well.
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: I mean, you probably need a low scoring tight end
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: slate for him to be the guy. But at twenty
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: five hundred, we know a lot of people go to
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: Davis Allen, He's a fine option. Seattle side, it's mostly
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. I mean, when Metcalf's been healthy this year,
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: it's just been him, Like they've just absolutely fed him
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: the ball. Big time playmaker prices, I think, cheap ownership,
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: low love the DK stuff. Good with Gino. I mean
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: they passed the ball a ton. If they're trailing, they're
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: just gonna pass the ball. They've done it all season long.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: One of the highest pass rates in the NFL. You know,
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: not the greatest matchup, but playing from behind, he'll just
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: absolutely sling it. Barner, cheap tight end. The one I'm
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: struggling though with is Kenneth Walker. Just so many, so
- 1:25:14Speaker 2: many good running back plays. I have him in because
- 1:25:16Speaker 2: I'm going to be on this forty nine er stuff.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: But he's got to beat a lot of guys. I mean,
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: he's got to beat a lot of guys at the position.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: But the workload is certainly there and he can get
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: there in any sort of game script. So have him
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: in as of now, probably a little underweight, just because
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: there's so many really strong running back plays, I mean
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: very very strong, and then like he's kind of in
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: that range right in between like Gibbs and Montgomery, So
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: you're sacrificing some of those Detroit running backs in order
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: to get more Walker. But either way, like this is
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: a big time game on all aspects of it.
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't have to do this. I'm just
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: saying the way I think about it, right, Like, he's
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: only sixty five hundred, that's a nice thing. He's usually
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: a lot more money. And that's where it gets a
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: bit trickier. What I'm talking about the Jamar Chase example.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: It's the style of play, the capability of two to
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and that would really hook up Gino. But
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: at sixty five hundred, it's not the same versus Jamar
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: Chase as usually eighty two hundred or seventy nine hundred
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: or something, big boy price tag. So there's that. The
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: other thing I will say, though, that's super intriguing about
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: this game is Gino Metcalf JSN debo. Like, even if
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: you drop one of those Metcalf or JSN plays at
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: sixty five hundred to get that mid range of wide receiver,
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: you might still be able with a cheap D and
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: a cheap tight end, maybe even a two tight end
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: builder and estimate be able to get this game stack
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: without McCaffrey, but with a completely different build, and then
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: you still have money to spend on Hn and some
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: of those other good running backs that we talked about.
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: So that's the way that you could see this where
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: where you're on the right spots. But the slate gets
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: a little bit of a shake up because of that.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: So just a little thought there, last game on the
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: slate title, I'll go back to you gonna be quick
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: for me because I don't really care about any of
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: this stuff. I think Kelsey Knocks maybe that's it.
- 1:27:01Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure Shakir and d Hap that's all I got.
- 1:27:05Speaker 4: I'm with you, Kelsey Knox, Shakir and d Hop Yeah.
- 1:27:09Speaker 4: I mean I'm paying up for quarterback is really tough
- 1:27:11Speaker 4: on a slate like this. If I was to pay
- 1:27:13Speaker 4: off for anyone, I think it would be Naked Lamar
- 1:27:16Speaker 4: or Lamar and Za. And that's just because if someone's
- 1:27:19Speaker 4: getting you a thirty five forty at quarterback, I'll always
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: bake on Lamar's upside. It's definitely can't be playing mahomes
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: that expensive. Josh Allen does have that upside too, I
- 1:27:28Speaker 4: very much respect this Chiefs defense, though they always come
- 1:27:31Speaker 4: very well prepared while coached. Hard to see two too
- 1:27:34Speaker 4: much upside on the Allen side, and even if he
- 1:27:37Speaker 4: got thirty thirty three, that might not be enough because
- 1:27:40Speaker 4: of this tight salary that we're talking about.
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: So it's one off.
- 1:27:43Speaker 4: Like I prefer other pivots in the James Cook and
- 1:27:46Speaker 4: Hunt range, so I don't see myself going there. We
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: do expect a Marii Cooper to be back. They are
- 1:27:51Speaker 4: without Dalton Kikaid and Kean Coleman though, which is why
- 1:27:54Speaker 4: Shakiir's price tags great promise. Shakier Man, it feels like
- 1:27:57Speaker 4: every single one of his targets is a wide receiver
- 1:28:00Speaker 4: and he gets like eight yards, but there's not the
- 1:28:03Speaker 4: a dots, not a lot.
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:28:06Speaker 4: He's a fine plays ownership on both sites. I really
- 1:28:08Speaker 4: don't get that excited about it. De Hop and Kelsey
- 1:28:11Speaker 4: are my favorite plays though, like Mahomes is gonna get
- 1:28:14Speaker 4: those to the football plenty PPR upside and the thing
- 1:28:17Speaker 4: with Kelsey in two tight end builds, guys sees Pricer
- 1:28:20Speaker 4: on a receiver JSN DK, Jayden Reed Shakir, who will
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: probably be higher on Calvin Ridley Sutton. You look at
- 1:28:28Speaker 4: what Kelsey has been doing recently, those targets are massive.
- 1:28:32Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's the best playout of all
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: those guys I mentioned. Maybe DK is a little better,
- 1:28:36Speaker 4: So more than likely, probably Kelsey when I play him,
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: will be two tight end builds, because the second one
- 1:28:42Speaker 4: will be like a twenty five hundred Allen, a three
- 1:28:44Speaker 4: k et cetera, and just go to Knox on the
- 1:28:46Speaker 4: other side. But yeah, one offs and it's the PPR
- 1:28:50Speaker 4: guys d hop Kelsey, Shakir Knox and call it to day.
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: The Shakier point was a good one too. He made
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: the tip. It's like he's it Like it was basically
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: talking about him gonna be able to eat in the
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: slot matchup. But it's like, what you say, you're sixty
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: three hundred for it, so it's gonna rack up to
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: what you know, eight catches for eighty five solid, But
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: it's like he's still you're paying sixty three. You're gonna
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: need the touchdown. It need something big to pay it off,
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: and it's possible. Definitely, don't hate it. If you had
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: like a Kareem Hunt Shakir secondary stack. Maybe some of
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: those are Shakir Kelsey. I also think it's kind of
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: interesting because I'm not interested in the quarterbacks, but to
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: play Kelsey and knocks and do my two tight end
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: build that way where it's less than ten k for both,
- 1:29:26Speaker 1: and you could definitely see thirty five to forty points
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: from those two guys. With the injuries stacking up. These
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: two quarterbacks get a piece of it and then still
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: be able to fill out the rest of your lineup
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: from there. But Hoop, I'll kick it to you final
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: game of the slate.
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely more in on this game than you guys.
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: Like the reason I like the Bill stuff is, yes,
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: Josh Allen is expensive at quarterback, but there's not a
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: ton of quarterbacks that stand out. Is man, I need
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: this guy like he's gonna go off for thirty. Like
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: him going off for thirty, I think does win the slate,
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: and it's not as expensive as you think, Like you
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: get a cheap I'd end with him in Knox thirty
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: five hundred. The pass catcher in Shakir is mid tier.
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: I still like mccollins regardless of what happens with MARII Cooper.
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: He's cheap and then you have clear runbacks on the
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: other side, Hopkins and Kelsey, who are both kind of
- 1:30:16Speaker 2: priced in the mid tier, So I'm going to force
- 1:30:19Speaker 2: in some Josh Allen stuff. I just kind of, as
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: you guys were talking, looked at the teams to make
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: sure they're not like super nasty, and the teams are
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: pretty legitimate with Josh Allen a pass catcher and a
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: runback on the chief side. Like it. I don't have
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: to do anything too crazy. Yes, getting some double tight
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: end teams, but you're gonna get a lot of that today,
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: especially on DK with lack of value. So interested in
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: Josh Allen stuff. And then man quarterback I'm FanDuel is tough.
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: Definitely not going to play Patrick Mahomes on DK, but
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: seventy nine hundred, he's under eight K. I like Hopkins,
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: I like Kelsey. This is a slate I think where
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: quarterback scoring could be low, he could potentially be the winner.
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: You don't even have to comment on it. You don't even.
- 1:31:04Speaker 6: I don't even you don't you don't even you don't
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: even need to. You don't even need to. Like I
- 1:31:07Speaker 6: know you like to talk, you don't even need to
- 1:31:08Speaker 6: talk about this. One week we can move right past it. Uh,
- 1:31:12Speaker 6: but I am going to have some homes on on
- 1:31:14Speaker 6: fan duel. I think I know never mahomes all that,
- 1:31:18Speaker 6: and you're not going to talk me off of it.
- 1:31:20Speaker 2: So there's there's some good right now.
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: Ship it donation, keep donating, buddy. It's like eighty weeks
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: now and you just want to keep them away.
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't wait to clip that one when
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: when my home ships.
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: Nine more clips when I proved it wrong. So it
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And you know you said sometimes mahomes, how's
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: your third place? I love you wrong.
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: I mean you can. Really. The thing is you can
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: say that. You can say that about like almost every quarterback.
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: I mean, there's very few quarterbacks that kind of end.
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough to be on the winter. I
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: don't know. I'm I'm in on it under a K.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: There's no quarterbacks that stand out. I like Hopkins, I
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: like Kelsey, I like Knox, I like Shaqui. On the
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: other side, like I said, I like Mac Collins a
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: little bit too. So I have direct direct runbacks. Again,
- 1:32:06Speaker 2: I'm not doing it on DK it's too expensive. Don't
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: like it there, but I'm gonna I'm gonna play.
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: The Allen side though, like I would, I'm playing that.
- 1:32:14Speaker 2: I'm playing the Allen side too. It is actually it
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: is weird because it is a little more difficult on
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: FanDuel to play the Allen side, which typically isn't the
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: case just from what I'm seeing with my teams my build.
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: Maybe it's because McCaffrey is so so much more expensive
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: over there, but it is kind of difficult to play
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: the Allen stuff. But yeah, I like this, like this
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: definitely more than you guys.
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the way I would do it. Like,
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: I think the one thing you said that was key
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: is you know no one's paying up at quarterback and
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: you have a way to do it via Knox, which
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: people are at least somewhat considering Knocks in some cases,
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: even in a two tight end build. And that two
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: tight end build can be with Kelsey on the other side.
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: So like you could legitimately play Alan Knox Kelsey and
- 1:32:53Speaker 1: call today you could get off the two tight end
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: and say forget that build. I'm gonna go to Alan Knox,
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: Hopkins or Kareem Like, yeah, I'm fine with that setup
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: of it. I just Mahomes has to go for like
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: four hundred yards, three touchdowns, et cetera. It just doesn't happen.
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: And it's not like it's free. Even over on FanDuel,
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: you're paying up almost eight k for Mahomes, You're paying
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: up from DK to almost seven k for Hopkins, almost
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: seventy five hundred for Kelsey. It gets even more expensive
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: over there, dude, on DraftKings, maybe sixty eight fifty seven
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: sixty three. Use Knox as you're cheapy, and if a
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: Marii Cooper plays, I mean fifty seven hundred, fifty seven
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: hundred for Amari Cooper and Knox for what eighty You know,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: it's not not much money to put those two together
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: and try and get thirty points out of them if
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: you think Alan's gonna have a big day. So not
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: much else there, title, do you have anything else on
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: that one or anything else on the slate as.
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: A whole lakeswap stuff?
- 1:33:43Speaker 4: There's only three games in the afternoon, and it's very
- 1:33:46Speaker 4: clear that forty nine er stuff will by far be
- 1:33:48Speaker 4: the most popular. So you need to go seemc the
- 1:33:51Speaker 4: bijon because you're behind, and then you upgrade to some
- 1:33:54Speaker 4: other chalk or get off a chalk to upgrade somewhere
- 1:33:57Speaker 4: else you have estimate for really cheap if you need
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: a pivot to absolutely flip your build kind of.
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: The lockers got upside.
- 1:34:04Speaker 4: Yeah, just the only three games afternoon, which I don't love,
- 1:34:06Speaker 4: but it's clear where ownership is going to go.
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: And late swap is very very big in DFS, So yeah.
- 1:34:12Speaker 1: Very big on this slate. Actually, guess a good point
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: you brought that up. I didn't think to mention it.
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: But everybody in the afternoon's going to have Seahawks and
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: forty nine ers. No one's gonna have the Broncos. Really,
- 1:34:20Speaker 1: there's some I'm you know, I'm always putting it in
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: general generalities, but it's, you know, seventy it feels like
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: seventy percent of the action in the afternoon is going
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: to be in on forty nine or Seahawks stuff in
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: one way, shape or form. And it's like there's bon
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: Nicks to Sutton with Bijon over there. That's definitely gonna
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: be an opportunity to get to some of your purty
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: McCaffrey Jennings type stuff. You can get Debo in there.
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: If people are playing the other side, you get Deebo
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: as a pivot. You've got the Chiefs Bill stuff that
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: we just mentioned, so certainly interesting from that perspective, Like
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: maybe I end up getting to some more Josh Allen
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: if some stuff fails in the morning, or some more
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: bon Nicks if stuff fails in the morning. But other
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: than that, I'm gonna be set up I think with
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: Gino and the Rock Purty side more in the afternoon.
- 1:35:00Speaker 1: And then Beatleman mentioned it too that that was another
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: division game there with the Seahawks forty nine ers could
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: be a slow and that's why I brought it up
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: earlier too. It's kind of those games today. Whop Any
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: final thoughts from you.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: Man, fun slate, I mean pretty wide open. I mean
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: there's not many builds at the end of the slate
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: where I'd be shocked to like that was what you
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: needed to win. I mean, there's a lot of different
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: ways to go. Quarterback is the key. The stacks are
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: the key today. We know who people are playing at
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: running back, we know people are going cheap at tight end,
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: so there's a clear path of what to expect in
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: terms of roster construction. But the stacks are where it's
- 1:35:34Speaker 2: at today. What quarterbacks you play how you and that's
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: always the case, but I think a little more emphasis
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: today like how you play them overstack, that sort of thing.
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