Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Trump's new AI czar and task force announcement sends advisors 'scrambling'
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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump announced he will appoint an artificial intelligence czar
- 0:04Speaker 1: to overlook the administration's response to the fastly developing technology.
- 0:09Speaker 1: In a social media post, the president promised not to, quote,
- 0:12Speaker 1: hinder or stifle the growth of this incredible industry, but
- 0:16Speaker 1: instead be looking for bad. And we can do that
- 0:21Speaker 1: very easily with our already existing criminal and civil justice system.
- 0:26Speaker 1: The Saturday statement also noted the president intends to create
- 0:30Speaker 1: an AI task force through, though the president did not
- 0:34Speaker 1: offer much explanation on how the body would work or
- 0:37Speaker 1: what authority it would have. The move comes as the
- 0:39Speaker 1: White House faces growing backlash from critics and even AI
- 0:43Speaker 1: companies themselves for its slow response to regulating the technology.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Joining us now, tech policy reporter for Axios, Maria Curry. Maria,
- 0:51Speaker 1: So what has the response been like to President Trump's
- 0:56Speaker 1: AI force news? Because, as you know, the president was
- 1:01Speaker 1: at first very resistant to doing anything on AI, calling
- 1:05Speaker 1: it a hoax just a week ago, despite industry leader warnings.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So is this seen as a step in the direction
- 1:12Speaker 1: of actual regulation?
- 1:14Speaker 2: So this was one of another one of the president's
- 1:18Speaker 2: announcements made over the weekend on social media that has
- 1:21Speaker 2: really left his advisers in the inside of the administration
- 1:25Speaker 2: and the outside scrambling to figure out what it's actually
- 1:28Speaker 2: going to mean and who could potentially take on this
- 1:30Speaker 2: new role as a czar. In terms of whether or
- 1:34Speaker 2: not this actually satisfies industry demands, I think it is
- 1:37Speaker 2: very much an open question. It depends on what this
- 1:41Speaker 2: government body will actually do, where it is housed, what
- 1:44Speaker 2: authorities it will have. And in terms of who might
- 1:47Speaker 2: actually become the new A.I. czar, we know that the
- 1:50Speaker 2: former person who held that position, David Sachs, was a
- 1:53Speaker 2: Silicon Valley businessman. player with messaging chops, which is another
- 1:57Speaker 2: potential purpose of this of these series of announcements, you know,
- 2:01Speaker 2: really rebranding artificial intelligence away from the doomer language that
- 2:06Speaker 2: the president has been chalking up to a hoax and
- 2:10Speaker 2: making it a more palatable idea for the American public.
- 2:15Speaker 2: You know, even trying to rename artificial intelligence itself and
- 2:18Speaker 2: holding a poll on social media to see if it
- 2:21Speaker 2: should be named something new. Right.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I think one of the ones he was proposing was
- 2:26Speaker 1: supreme intelligence instead of artificial intelligence. I want to ask
- 2:31Speaker 1: you about your latest reporting, because you report that California
- 2:36Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom's executive order on artificial intelligence, which proposes,
- 2:40Speaker 1: I think, an AI kill switch. First, what is an
- 2:45Speaker 1: AI kill switch? And do you think that more potential
- 2:48Speaker 1: 2028 candidates are going to be focused on AI?
- 2:52Speaker 2: Right. So we're really seeing this juxtaposition, whereas Washington is
- 2:56Speaker 2: not stepping into the regulatory vote that void that a
- 2:59Speaker 2: lot of these Democratic policymakers and candidates see. They're stepping
- 3:05Speaker 2: into this. And it's not just, you know, Gavin Newsom, his.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Kill switch idea essentially just means, you know, allowing the
- 3:11Speaker 2: companies to have the ability to shut down their own
- 3:13Speaker 2: models when risk reaches a certain threshold. This is actually
- 3:17Speaker 2: an idea that is already aligned with some industry players
- 3:20Speaker 2: and much of California's regulatory approach already is one that
- 3:24Speaker 2: major players such as OpenAI are behind and trying to
- 3:27Speaker 2: export to the rest of the country. And so, you know,
- 3:30Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom is really towing that line there where he
- 3:33Speaker 2: is positioning himself as stepping in where Washington is seemingly failing.
- 3:37Speaker 2: but also maintaining relations with the industry. Other governors did
- 3:41Speaker 2: the same in the aftermath of this AI alarm, including J.B. Pritzker,
- 3:46Speaker 2: who is also a 2028 contender. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is
- 3:52Speaker 2: also coming out with a new position that is more
- 3:54Speaker 2: focused on the actual economic impacts of AI itself, how
- 3:59Speaker 2: the economy being potentially propped up by seven companies could
- 4:02Speaker 2: end up impacting people's retirements and their life savings.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Maria, the president is expected to talk a lot about
- 4:09Speaker 1: AI this week, whether it's at the United Nations General
- 4:13Speaker 1: Assembly or with Chinese President Xi Jinping when he visits
- 4:16Speaker 1: the White House on Thursday. Do you think that there's
- 4:18Speaker 1: going to be any concrete actions taken out of the
- 4:22Speaker 1: meetings this week, any kind of agreement to disarm in
- 4:25Speaker 1: this arms race?
- 4:27Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because you have the administration and the
- 4:30Speaker 2: president in particular calling this a hoax. But we have
- 4:33Speaker 2: also seen even over the weekend during Treasury Secretary Scott
- 4:38Speaker 2: Besson's discussions with his Chinese counterparts that some steps are
- 4:41Speaker 2: being taken in the direction of these industry demands, including
- 4:45Speaker 2: more collaboration with China on safety concerns. This new U.S.-China
- 4:51Speaker 2: AI dialogue is going to continue. More meetings are going
- 4:54Speaker 2: to happen. And they now have this mechanism or they're
- 4:57Speaker 2: building this mechanism for incidents. What I'm expecting out of
- 5:02Speaker 2: the state dinner later this week is maybe less discussion
- 5:07Speaker 2: on the technical level and concrete action and more of
- 5:10Speaker 2: a messaging sign that is a continuation of what Treasury
- 5:13Speaker 2: Scott Besson has already laid the groundwork on of U.S.-China
- 5:16Speaker 2: collaboration at the highest risk level.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But I think people are going to be
- 5:21Speaker 1: looking for actual action. So we'll see if any really
- 5:24Speaker 1: comes out of these meetings this week. Tech policy reporter
- 5:27Speaker 1: for Axios, Maria Curry. Thank you.
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