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Is 2026 Even Livable? (Plus: Why Reba Doesn't Do Full Albums Anymore) w/ Pharnsworth · Surviving-ISH Podcast

• 0:14
  SPEAKER_03: Hey guys, welcome back to Surviving Ish.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_03: So Farnsworth is with us today, and so I'm glad that we're finally doing this.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_03: Me too.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: How are you, my friend?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm great.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm enjoying this ish that you got going on, man.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm so excited.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, with that being said, what are you surviving ish?
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm surviving the mail company-ish.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: I always am uh getting stuck with uh them giving me notifications that uh that they're gonna deliver stuff, and then I'm waiting, and then I get there.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping it's Christmas-ish, and it's uh it's not.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: And they always do this to me like constantly, like today.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was uh I was waiting for a package to get there, and it said it it was delivered, and then I got there, and then I looked at it and it said delayed-ish.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Come on, man.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking to so uh the the last little job that I had doing like property management.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_03: I talked to uh the mailman that came in.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_03: He was really cute, so I was trying to always find reasons to talk to him.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_03: And people would always come down to my office and say, Hey, I've been told that I had a package delivered.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, no, it's not here.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_03: And so I asked him, I was like, Why do I why are these people getting notifications?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: They're coming to me thinking that I'm still in their team package.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_03: And and he was like, Oh, they don't realize that we're telling that the notification is telling them that it's landed at the or arrived at the post office that will then deliver it, and it could be another 24 to 48 hours from there.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, and that's and it's like false advertisements, it's false hope for those those people that are waiting for their package like myself.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was Timu.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: It was Timu.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_03: Of course it was.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it's all about the wording too, is it'll say ships within 24 to 48 hours or 72 hours.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or it's in transit.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's in transit.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, come, come on.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but the ships within only means they've got 24 48 hour 24 to 48 hours to get it out of their building.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't mean you're gonna receive it within that period, it means it gets shipped out within that period, and then you have another 48 to 72 hours of waiting, depending on how many oceans it has to travel during a war.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, don't want to get me started on that one, yeah.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, that's definitely the the mail company.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we're gonna see increases on that or not, but I don't like what's going on as is, so yeah.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: So team in time, I'm just sad.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: You just want your team.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: What did you order?
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: I ordered an instrument, the keyboard.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because I bought a bunch of new synth stuff because I'm doing synthesizer stuff, building I know I'm doing I'm going down a different avenue, but I go I'm building it into the the rock stuff so that we have like these intros and I'm building them.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_03: Have you have you and forgive my ignorance, but I uh get ads for Timu, and it's usually like fake earrings or gloves that are too small that have a flashlight on one of the fingers, so nothing crazy.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_03: They sell like keyboards and flutes.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they sell everything under the money.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: Do you use flutes in a rock band?
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Not necessarily, but they have some legit keyboards that are like just awesome.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: For I mean it was a hundred dollars.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: What would it be here?
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_03: What would it be if you bought it here?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_03: Say again.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_03: What would that what would the price be if you bought it here?
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: About a hundred and fifty.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_03: So if you have to wait a couple extra days, fine, saving fifty bucks.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_03: But when you had your hopes up thinking I'm getting it today and it's gonna be three days from now, it's like, well, damn, I would I would have just paid the 50 bucks.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: I guess the question is, is like, do I support Amazon or would I just rather support Timu and some poor Chinaman?
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, like, I'd almost rather just go with Timu at this point.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_03: No, I live where I get on the interstate from my house.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_03: I so I've got where I live, the area that I live in, we have two big Amazons.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I've got the big ones there.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that they have they're like the Googles, they have like the gyms, the the the breastfeeding areas, the milking areas.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there's like six restaurants in them.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_03: From an outsider who maybe doesn't know much or follow politics and who owns Amazon and things like that, it seems like it would be a great place to work, right?
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: You go there, you you don't have to pack a lunch.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_03: I can go into this booth and pump my breast milk.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like they have cots where you could take naps.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, but I I I see them and I see how busy they are and how big they are, and I'm just like, I just I'm not a good thing.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder, I you know, I wonder like what part of the the Amazon that actually gets taken care of, like the people that get taken care of, and then the people that just get neglected, like where is that where does that start?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and that's what's so fucked up about our grooming and training is we think, oh, in Knoxville, Tennessee, I'm making$18 an hour.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: It's almost a livable wage, but there's no other perks.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: So or or it costs me a hundred dollars a week for my insurance, or or for whatever reason, but we're groomed to think that we are doing okay with none of us are, not until we're a trillionaire, apparently.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think that uh 18 is definitely not a livable wage anymore, not even who can think 25.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even think 25 is a livable wage anymore with the increases the increase of everything everything and all the costs.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: I think it cost me$42 to fill up my gasing today.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: I have a key uh I have a 2026 Kia K4.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like and it shouldn't be.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_03: It should cost me$25.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_03: When I first bought the car two months ago, it was$25 to fill out.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_03: That yeah, it's doubled.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that uh I don't know what what's going on, but I know that we're not gonna be able to sustain that long with the gas prices they are.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: I know that much.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be good.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_03: No, but you know what?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it will probably a week or so before this podcast comes out, but or this episode episode comes out, but I just saw on Facebook today that President Donald Trump is coming to Knoxville, Tennessee to our big old football game.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: And um yeah, and so I've already been blocked with a couple of death threats and a and a rape threat uh by the family first, children first uh MAGO movement.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: Because before we jumped on, people were shooting this friend was like, Why is Donald Trump coming here to this game?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, everyone was like, Oh, I love that he's coming here, like it's so great that he's coming here.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: My response was, Well, he's coming here to take a nap in a place where he feels safe because no one cares that he's a child rapist and the Epstein files have not been released, and we're losing a non-more.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I got blocked, and a couple of threats in between.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: So there we are.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I loved it, but I knew I was gonna get blocked, so I took screenshots of everything.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: I I guess he's just kind of just I don't know, he's such a celebrity still that like my brain can't I I have a hard time even like accepting it.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of would rather him just go back to being a celebrity and not doing what he's doing because it's not working.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_03: I it's not working, it's not I I respect what you're saying.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: I will not be happy until he's in prison.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so oh yeah, okay, and there's that too.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: He'll be a celebrity there, too, though.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: He'll be a celebrity there, too.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah in Bubba's bunk.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Just saying.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: I hope he goes to prison and gets zero dick.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_03: Because isn't the Epstein files of Loving Dick, it's it just happened, it wouldn't matter in prison because they're the dick's too old.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: Not his dick.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Not his not his dick.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: Is it gonna be like the South Park dick that he's getting sued right now?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: They're getting sued, I guess, right now, too, from him.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: I guess that's pretty good.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: And good.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, bring it on.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Because they're gonna be fine.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: Here is what I'm surviving ish.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: And this one is gonna be the first out of a year of grievances.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be a little bit of a first because this is something um that I'm actually kind of looking forward to, but it brought up questions in my head, uh, and I'm okay with them.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I before we logged in, I was flipping through Facebook reading rape and death threats.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: And then my next little scroll was a post by the queen of country music, Miss Reba McIntyre.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Reba McIntyre, uh-huh.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_03: And she was playing one of her her newest songs, and it's one of those classic Reba ballads that just rips your heart out, twist it, puts it back in just to bring it out and rip it again, you know, which is why I love her.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: And she said, Oh, this is still one of my favorites.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe I should release another one this Friday.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: The answer is yes, Reba, you should.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: So here's my ish.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: Do and and you may have some insight on this because you're a musician, you're a singer, you're a performer, you release albums, we'll talk about that.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_03: But um, it's been a few years since Reba's release like an actual full album.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_03: She has a lot of EPs that it's like she'll she'll release a two new songs, but there'll be six songs on there, and the other four will be songs that are kind of in the same little mix family where it tells a story.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm obsessed with that.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, this is not a knock at all with with that direction.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: But my question is, are we not doing like full albums anymore?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_03: Are is the world just past that?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: That is interesting.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, promotion-wise, they've been teaching everybody to like they they told us they were like you should just do one song at a time, and I was like, No, we're gonna release the whole thing at the same all at once.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Do you blame Taylor Swift?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think Taylor Swift I I Yes all the time.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I I think but because she was so good at the Easter eggs, right?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like, leave a little Easter eggs of when she's gonna release a song that was very strategic, and I think it really changed the dynamic of music release.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have the patience to like sit and click on the single and then sit and like wait weeks to get to the next one.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just go, oh, they're not out yet, and I move on because I'm just that way.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I just forget to go back until like months later, and then I'll check the whole album out.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: But a lot of people are swipers and clickers, and so like hitting on the single and then saving it or whatever in Spotify to their favorite or whatever is kind of what they do.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, like I'll download the album and it'll have like the one or two songs that's been released, or have the other ones grayed out, and I'm looking every day at the hate that so bad.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: I hate that it's kind of love that makes me mad.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: I kind of love to hate it though, or I kind of hate to love it or love to hate.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, I don't know which one it would be, but that there's a thrill and excitement to it because there's sometimes where Because it's an unknown, it's an unknown thing, but it's a happy unknown, right?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Because like when it comes to Reba's album, I'm gonna love every song.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I want to love it as much as the one released before or after, but there's that whole game with me of like, what category do I put this in?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna love it.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: How quick can I learn all the words?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: When can I karaoke at it?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: There's you know, but I'm a very loyal person to Reba, right?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: With but if it came to someone that maybe I liked a song or two of, but wasn't like a diehard fan of, I could see how I could scroll through, and I haven't thought about this until you said it, but I see how I could scroll through and be like, uh, well, I'll get notification when the full album comes out.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'll check it out then because if I just listen to the first one or two songs, they're gonna be like the radio songs, and those are ones I usually don't like as much, you know.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like I like the non-release, never heard before kind of stuff versus whatever the radio tells me I need and want to hear.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: And so I would be like, meh, I'll get notification when the full album comes out and I'll come check it out then.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: And so, like you said, it's gonna be six months from now, and I'm gonna be like, Oh my god, have you heard this song?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's so good.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: They're like, bitch, they've released two albums since then.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I hope not it's gonna be kind of a disaster for you.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no, man, the the industry is is strange now.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: My uh my bass player, he's like, Hey man, do you think you could use these old flyers and revamp them?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: He sends me the old hand-drawn flyers, like and I'm like, Oh my god, I have it thought about doing a hand-drawn flyer since like 97.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: So that that aged me.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_03: I know, but at the same time, it's like I think it's brilliant because people in our age range are now in a place, most of us uh I want to make sure I said this correctly.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of us, some of us, whatever of us, right um, are in a place where we can splurge on maybe a few things.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so, like when we see those uh old school, like when we were growing up and those albums came out and someone drew it and we were like, oh my god, it's so great.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: And to see it brought back to life or redone, like I would pay even a few dollars extra for it now, you know.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: So, because we're kind of at the demographic now where we're in our careers, we're in a place where we will spend a few extra dollars on those nothargic kind of I mean, records are back, cassette tapes are back.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy, yeah.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we're planning on getting our our record out here too.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I love it.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm wanting to create a wall in my bedroom.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to redo my bedroom.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't done anything to it yet.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to like just whitewall redesign, redesign it, but I think that I want a record label wall.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, like a yeah, like the record cover wall.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they got those uh those cool ones that you could put records in and then put them up like a frame.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's what I would do.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: And of course it would all be Reba.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: It would be all Reba, of course it would be, but in the middle, there'd be a Farnsworth band, just right.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: So okay, before we get to the bigger topic that we're gonna talk about, which has been an ongoing conversation with us.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Since we've been talking about your band, tell us a little bit about your band, your music, your genre, and what got you into it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's um a band called A Data Burn.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it is alternative, kind of like a mix between like the Foo Fighters and some kind of like post-hardcore band, you know, maybe like the used or something like that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: We have kind of a combo mix because we have this like alternative um we've been getting labeled as New Grunge, which is New Apparently New Grunge, and uh we also have like a post-hardcore and um alternative label that we get labeled as too.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: But uh it's really aggressive and like uh kind of in your face.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think my last advertisement was we melt hippies faces, and we do.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_03: I love it though, and and uh like when you sent me how long has the album been out, this this latest one?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Two months.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: So when you sent it to me, did you send it to me before it came out?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: I did.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, because I'm gonna say I feel like I no one.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: I sent you like I sent you some.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think I sent you like like when I just got it mastered, I think I sent it to you.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like I feel like I remember the text of like don't put this out on anything.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: This is just for you to listen to, which thank you for trusting me.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um I did not put anything out.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and so I don't know if there's any legging it, man.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say, I don't know if there's any uh kickback of not releasing anything, or would there have been more kickback had I this is leaked, you know?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe this is leaked.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: Seriously, a lot of bands do that too.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, next time let's discuss, we'll figure out a strategy.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: But I so everyone knows you even knew when you sent it to me that there would be a big possibility that I wouldn't listen all the way through, that I wouldn't love it, because people ask me like what genre of music do you like?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I say female country.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: That that I was like, I'll give it to David, he'll at least tell me if it's not female country, and I but I do love and support my friends, and so I wanted, and and there were uh a few songs on there that I'm sure are great, but it I just it was way out of my genre.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: But there was I sent you the name of it, and I know I have it in text.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's gonna bother me until I find it, but I feel like it was either.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was song number three.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: So um why can't I remember that?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's my own song.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but oh wait.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: My brain's like, see, with my stuff.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, even I found the text.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: It said, It's not Ruben McIntyre.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh no, you said it's not Ruben McIntyre, but I hope you like it.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get you, I think is what you liked.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yep, that one was it because I said I love the titles.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh like the titles really got me, and I really like the cover too.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_03: I'll put the link to whatever links you would allow me to or can send to me to I'll put it in the show notes.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: But okay, let me it's gonna bother me until I know exactly the name.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: So and I will say you are number three most played on my Spotify.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what do you know?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Unpopular.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, I'm gonna get you.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get you.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you said you said is I'm gonna get you is the one you liked, which is a pretty cool song because that one's about kind of getting older and remembering that like to leave some of the kids alone, let them just let them figure it out.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: Let them figure it out.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's kind of and just for proof, you can see out of the out of your album, that one is hell out of green because that one's the most played by me.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and no, no, I yeah, I love it.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that's that's really cool.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: And you and you all do live shows?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't you do a tour?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh not yet.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Not yet, but we are playing live shows.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: We just played one um September 13th.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: That was at the Atrium, which is a pretty cool little venue in Fort Collins.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: And where are we going?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're going Lion's Lair, which is um one of Denver's oldest venues.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're playing October 16th, which is a Friday.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: Nice.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Still waiting to hear who else we're playing with.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Well, if you ever want to come down this way, I have connections to one of the most gorgeous music theaters.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it was called the Tennessee Theater.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: And it is there, there's no bad seat.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's not like a huge Coliseum.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's one of I'm actually going this Friday to see one of one of my favorite country singers, Ashley McBride.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm on the floor, of course, because I'm spoiled.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: But I've been concerts where you're on the third balcony there, and there's literally on the third balcony, I could still see if you had a single gray hair.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's just one of those intimate play.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's stunning.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: I've got to send you some pictures, and I have a great connection.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of up-and-coming people, and even there are a lot of artists that know they could sell out a call Sam, but they're like, I want to do a fan, what what are those called?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, when you're in the fan club, like a fan club kind of intimate concert.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Intimate concert, yeah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: Or uh, you know, the certain the the fans that pay a lot of money, right?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, and so they'll do it and it's stunning, and I have a great connection with them.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm actually maybe one day gonna be recording my first live podcast show there.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: So if you all ever are torn out this way or trying to map quests and make connections, let me know.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: Map quest.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: I I said map quest.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've I really just showed my age.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: You just aged it, bro.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: Just like oh.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Luckily, I also do the editing of the show.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: So but what I meant is when you're trying to map out like where you would want to tour and what regions.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna print it all out on the way down.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give you the copies when I get to autographed.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: All I ask is I have to be backstage with you all.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there'll be a request for me to not have my shirt on when I'm playing.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Well, okay, which leads me to the next question before we get to another topic is when you all perform, where are your shirts?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're on our bodies.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's a boring concert don't come.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: So funny is I did buy a shirt that looks like I don't have a shirt on, and I was gonna wear that on.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, that would be great.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't find it though.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: That would be so funny.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so to the listener, so what I love of love is Farnsworth is a straight man.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: I'm an a gay man.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: And but he immediately would get my humor, was not insecure or worried or uh about my jokes.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so I always had this thing with him, and it's been a running joke for years of hey, can I talk to you about something?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have your shirt on?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: Or hey, can you take off your shirt and call me in five minutes?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: And and just because of life, we went a couple months without talking or whatever, we were texting the other day, and we're like, hey, no, let's have some phone time and call and catch up.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so you call and answer the phone, and uh yeah, well, however, and I said, Hey, quick quash, where's your shirt?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, God damn it, David.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: But I do I appreciate that.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate that you are secure enough that little o' me is not worth a death threat.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think honestly, I I mean I understand the humor.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I hang out with enough dudes, yeah, that we joke around all the time like this, and it doesn't bug me at all.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it may bug some people, but I guess I'm just secure where I'm at.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: I guess exactly.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: I judge people for their characters and how awesome they are, and if they're not awesome, then I don't hang out with them.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh god.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Is this confirmation that you think I'm awesome?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_03: David, you're a cool dude.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: You you get you get two thumbs up, bud.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so a conversation, uh a thing that you and I have talked about that you are very passionate about, justifiably so, is there are bad guys, there are bad fathers out there, but they should not represent all.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: And what we find common, you know, I I've done a lot of true crime cases, a lot of court cases, and then just through conversations that we had is that when it comes to divorce, when it comes to certain things with laws, automatically the father is the one questioned for visitation rights and and then when it involves their child, right?
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like in my per am I painting this picture right?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like Yeah, the father's always labeled as as the the wicked one in the in the case, yeah.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the courts make it that way.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because they know they can make money off of the off the dads, yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: That situation for the kids.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: So so let's talk about this.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: Where do you like this it okay?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I want to say this, and how I really connected when you and I first talked about this is uh, and I have permission to say this.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: I've been very open about my past and my parents.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, my parents had me at 14 years old.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: My mom at 17 years old left me and my brother on a doorstep.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: Luckily, it was my aunt's doorstep, but she drove off and went back to Michigan where her family lived because, of course, the church, the time her my when she got pregnant at 14, they had to get married, right?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: So she a lot of people thought that they automatically assumed my mom had custody.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_03: My mom was the one that abandoned me.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, she's back, she's been back for a long time.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: She's mother of the year, she's fucking amazing, but it took her some time to grow up.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_03: But my dad actually was 14, right?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: Fucking 14.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: My you know, my dad actually had custody of me and Brandon.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: And and when we would say that to people, they were completely in shock.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: And my dad's one of the good ones, right?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: I know that that's a little different than some of the situations that you know about or have maybe experienced, but the fact that, like, if I said, Well, my mom lives in Michigan, my dad has custody, I live with my dad, immediately they're like, Cost CPS, there's something wrong with this, you know.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: So even when there are a lot of times that just men don't have a fair fight, and I want to be careful how I say that because a lot of times I am like men, you know what I mean?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did, yeah.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: But there are so many cases where you do have the good ones and they're they're they don't get a fair fight.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of my background with it.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: So please take over from here.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: So basically, I mean it all started, I think it all starts with um in like 19 like 65, the government really wanted to break apart the black families, and when they started to break apart the black families, they introduced heroin into the black communities, and a lot of people don't know this, but what ended up happening is from that they found that welfare is just a big cycle.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: And when a mom, single mom is raising these kids, the chance of those kids going on welfare themselves and then also uh ending up in the system, which means arrests, things like that, is higher, and that's where we started to really start to see the boom of private prisons.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Fast forward.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're in we have court cases now where they've figured out that if they can, and they teach us in in law school that if we can just the start of a divorce pin a restraining order on that father, it gives them the leverage for that court case.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's a lot of that happening along with the amount of money that is revenued through family court systems, which is about 65 billion dollars a year and growing.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: People are waking up to it.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people fighting for 50-50 again.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: There's a big movement for 50-50 custody.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: If there wasn't anything, I mean, you probably know it, and I know it, that when we were growing up, that like it was kind of told that like, why don't we like whenever you hear that mom is getting divorced or whatever, but and they would say, hey, let's make that, don't worry about it.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna get half of everything, anyways.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: You hear that all the time.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: You hear that kind of stuff that kind of talk all the time.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is nowadays, women are making just as much as men because the way our society works, everyone has to work.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: So why are we doing it this way?
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: And why are men being taken their why are they getting their rights taken away when it comes to a restrainer or now they're being delegated in the CPS system as uh neg uh negligence and now they have to have visit visitation supervised, and that's another dump in when it's$200 per supervision visit.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: You do the math on that if you're doing that twice two visits a week.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: I took loans out for mine.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean I don't remember that.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: That that's when I became friends.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: You were just starting just starting it, yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_03: When you and I became friends, and one thing that I loved and admired about you is you're like, I don't care if I have to sit give plasma if I just sell feet pictures on you know, like whatever I gotta do.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think one time you messed me and you're like, hey David, would you give me couple hundred dollars for a shirtless pick?
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, eh.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: But but no, and all jokes aside, but like you were and are one of those fathers that was like, whatever it takes.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what does make me so mad about today's society, is that I know so many fathers that they might not have been the best partner, they might not have been the best husband, but they're good fathers, and and then the child gets used as a weapon, you know, because he was bad to me, and by bad, I don't mean abusive, but bad to me as in he hurt my feelings, he hurt my heart, so therefore he's gonna do that to the children, and that's not always the case.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: I can be a good uncle and hate my brother, right?
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: I could be a good dad and not like baby mama, sure.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_03: So so I think so.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: May I ask your thoughts on that?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like when people start using children as a weapon, I feel like that's kind of what happened with you.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I think almost every case, unless the ones that they've just decided to actually work it out, they uh a lot of people, a lot of the moms will allow the state to take control over that situation, and that was my case where they took control over the entire situation, and we were talking about what Lindsay Clancy the other day, and I was like, dude, I've got stuff that I gave to CPS about my ex.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: And they didn't care.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: They could care less, and now I bet you they don't.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: I bet you they would love to see it.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just saying that like the court system, they favor the mother in a lot of cases, and here's another thing I found out Montana's in big trouble because they caught CPS trafficking.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's like this big lowdown thing, like no one's reporting it, and like I was like in shock, and so here's what they were doing is they were taking the stronger figure, getting them out of the picture, and then letting the mom fail, and then coming in and taking the kids, and that's a fact.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: They can go anybody can go look it up, you're gonna have to dig, it's there though.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'll find it and I'll put it in the show notes.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: But but the fact that, like, even when you're telling me this in today's America, the fact that I don't doubt it.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's not argument, not like it's it's right there, right?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I'd believe it before I decided to not believe it.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like, so fucked all this is the entire thing.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean the system is broken, and it's broken for a reason.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's a revenue maker.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: They know this.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: And when the federal government takes a loan out without your consent until your kids are 18 or 19 years old, depending on the state, and then they just funnel that money back up through and run it through like CPS or you know, whoever's collecting the money, it's it goes to the state, so then it comes back through.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: So everybody's making a little money.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not like the lawyers, you can't you can't trust on the lawyers because the lawyers are part are shaking hands with the judges, they're shaking hands with the other lawyers, they're all buddies going and playing golf on a su on a Saturday, you know.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_01: So it's rough when when you trust in a lawyer and then they go behind your back and make a bunch of handshake deals because they know that they can make money off of you.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like I I think I think it all stems from racism, right?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: And so the minute that we uh as a white person, right, we're when we're told that the enemy is this demographic, you know, like there are literally in people in prison to this day, black people in prison to this day, that's been there for 20, 30, 40 years for marijuana, our president rapes children, but this black man is in prison for 40 years for marijuana.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_03: But it it's like one of those things where it's like we're told that he's the enemy and we should be fine with that.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: But then when we're fine with that, it's eventually going to come to us, right?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_03: So the white men that we're fine with, black man going to jail for marijuana is now the white man working three jobs trying to pay child support that can't see his children that has some kind of record when he's never touched his child.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, like it's just this financial cycle.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's like once you once you turn your morals, ethics, and values against one group, it's just the gateway before they come to your group.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if you've probably heard of this, but Greenwood in uh Tulsa, Oklahoma, it was I believe it was called the Black Wall Street.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: And in and like they literally burn this place to the ground.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's because family structure is huge.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: When there's a father figure involved in kids' lives, the chance of their success is so much higher than these are statistics, but it they are way higher than mothers.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: They actually the statistics are that a single father home is equivalent to a a double uh dual parent home.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: And they found that the single mother homes, the higher chance of them being on welfare, higher chance of them not going to college, higher chance of them ending up back in the system somehow is so much higher than if they are with the father.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because fathers are empathetic and but we teach tough love at the same time.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we teach lesson.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Mothers are are a huge part of learning too, but they're also empathetic and soothing.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's a different kind of structure.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: But when soothing becomes soothing when you're older, when they start to get older, the problem is that they just try to become their friend, and then we have structure problems with the kid in discipline and having respect towards others and things like that.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: So there's this huge fallout, and I'm not saying every one of the mothers are like that, I'm just saying there's a large percentage that this happens to, and that's why fathers are so important to be in lives, but every other weekend I think is not a good place for our society to be in, and they know that.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: So let me ask this.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um what was going through my mind when you were saying that is that I always ask myself, where has society failed us, right?
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_03: We're all just naturally groomed into things.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I'm not saying that there's not truth behind you know the what you had just said, or even the uh research behind it.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_03: But a part of me wonders how much of that is just what we're told, right?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_03: Like we're told that I remember being told growing up that women were less than.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it was it was said more respectfully, but it was like, well, of course, you know, let her go pour your Coca-Cola, or hey Lisa, go get me a Mountain Dew out of the refrigerator because I've worked all day and it's your job to go get me Mountain Dew.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like that there's this there's this stigma that society puts on people where when you think of a single mother, it I think that I'm trying to find the what right words for things.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_03: I just a part of me wonders how much truth is behind that study on because we're single mothers, we're groomed with things, you know.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like I just I know so many single mothers, I know so many single fathers that are so great and so strong, and also have weaknesses, right?
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: But I just don't see these.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_03: I don't we have a family friend, she's a single mother, or has always been a single mother.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, she worked two jobs, graduated college, uh, has three children, all while doing these things.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_03: All of her children are in college that she's paying for.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, they're we're not trying to say everyone is the same, right?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like I just I don't know that the question is, is what was that woman's structure at home?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, well, what her father was a murderer and was in prison, and her mom committed suicide, and she's been on her own since she was 15.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, a victim of rape several times.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: So already you telling me that I feel like she's a very strong person, right?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: So she don't put shit.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm guessing the home had some father type structure, which then there you go.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, which home?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Her home with her kids.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying that because her kids are successful.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, her kids are successful, correct?
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but there was never a father, they don't know their father.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, but I'm saying the the the masculinity in her structure was because she basically had to do it all herself, and she's like, I'm putting my fist down, this ain't happening, and I gotta do it.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Well, why does that have to be, and it's not me trying to negate or debate, like I'm truly asking, like, why does that have to be like I guess I have a hard time with a woman showing power as masculinity when when why can't it just be strength?
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: Why does it have to be defined as it comes from a man or it comes from a woman?
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just because when it comes to when it comes to things, women are like supposed to be more empathetic, sensitive, and and and compassionate with children and and things.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: And men are in nature supposed to be more upfront, straightforward, and aggressive.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: We have a mix right now because they have dumped so much hormones into so much stuff that now I mean men don't even have Adam's apples almost anymore.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's that our bodies are out of this, I was born this way.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: If we can eliminate that and have more feminist views, we can control the masses.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: They know they can do that.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: They've already done their studies, and you can go look that up too.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's a trip.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: They like have done studies about how they can control women through voting, and they've done so much in since they put they put the first vote for women.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: And they've done so much to just kind of collapse that whole thing and so that they can get what they need out of the system.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying bring bring the power back to the family, and we can have our if we can bring the power back to the family, eliminate child support, period, and make it 50-50, there'll be a it'll drop the 56% of divorce rate, probably down to 20.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: I put money on it.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because if there's nothing to fight over, then why leave?
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so you're not saying if we change the percentage.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: So you're saying people are staying together because of the fear of what's gonna happen to them financially if they leave.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: Financial is a huge factor in divorce.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: So so you're you're not saying that if we change these things, it's gonna keep going.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, women marry, I think, for different reasons than men.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Men can men seem to marry because they truly love that person and they they want to share that with them.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: Women look, I mean, I'm not all women, but I'm just saying that women do look at men a little bit different.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: They look at us like, what can he offer me?
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: Does is he stable?
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_01: Does he have a job?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: Does he do this?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Does he do that?
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_01: Men, we can we dig down or up.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: We don't care because we don't think that way.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: We if they have something to offer us in our hearts, then we usually will take it on.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many guys right now that are not at all doing anything.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I asked some some students what do you guys do at a dance?
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, we just hang out with our friends.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you just hang out with your friends?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you guys go dance?
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we don't really do that because then they like treat us weird.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then someone said something about filming them, like they get filmed or something, and I'm like, what does that have to do with it?
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't understand anything nowadays.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make any sense.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like and maybe maybe this is a victim mentality, maybe true crime mentality, maybe a statistic mentality, but it's like so the boys are afraid of being filmed dancing with girls, and the girls and the boys are hanging out with only the boys because it feels weird dancing with girls.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_03: Could it be because stats show boys don't know how to control themselves and they would sexually assault the women or the girls?
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's what stats show, right?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think I think what it is is I think a lot of times it has everything to do with the put themselves out there because one, it always ends in like a tragedy of some sort, and they're like, I don't really want to deal with any of this anymore.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: There's well just working around middle schoolers when I was doing some parallel, the amount of empathy towards each other was probably the worst I've ever seen.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_01: The girls could care less what is what they say about the men because they don't have consequences anymore.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: There's never any consequences for anything, and the men, the boys don't want to put themselves around it because they don't want to be blamed for something they didn't do.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: And this happens a lot.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: So much that when I talk to an officer about how often they get bell whistle, you know, I mean whistleblowers on like, or what do you call that, when um uh wolf cry wolf, like when people cry wolf about sexual assault, he said it's unfathomable.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_01: I get a couple calls a week and it's always nothing.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they make it up and they know there's no consequences.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: I said, that doesn't seem right.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Why is that?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: He goes, I don't know.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: They just don't care.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, that's messed up.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_01: So they either do it to their family members or they do it to a peer.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen it where a girl got in trouble because she was skipping school and the security guard was bringing her in and she's screaming rape.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: Screaming rape.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_03: Could there be a world?
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not saying this is justified, right?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's like what is going on?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not I'm not saying this is justified, but we are taught, I was taught as a child, if someone attacks me in some kind of way to yell fire and not help.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Because if I yell help, people turn away.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_03: So what what I wonder is, and do I do I think there are people that use and say things absolutely do I think that the percentage is as high as as I feel like maybe you're trying to portray it?
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't know that I agree with that.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_03: I wonder if when people are are if they're saying if they're on the phone with 911 and they're saying I'm being assaulted, I yes it's sexual, whatever.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, are they saying that to try to hurry and get help?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_03: Because if they said it in any other kind of way, and especially with it being a woman, no one gives a fuck about women.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, um I would say almost the opposite.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: I would say they don't care about the men, they care about the woman because they'll just be able to do that.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, they care about the they they do care about men as long as they're straight, white, and rich.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, good point.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe yellow hair or orange hair.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but yeah, I get I get where you're coming from.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'm not trying to take a look at the case.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think status definitely has something to do with that.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, look, you know this and you've seen it, where colleges, especially like in Texas and things like that, where there's these horrible things that happen, and because they have status, nothing goes un undone.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, nothing goes punished, right?
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: But then we have situations where you've seen also where they use that, the girls use that as a a place where they can get what they want or revenge on that man, and say he did XYZ.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I will say this out of the men's groups, almost all of our stories are exactly the same.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: You could pull little things out and put little things in, but I'm telling you right now, I just talked to one Monday, talked to a mom, gave me her son's story.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was in shock because I was like, wow, this is like my story.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: I said, you should, you know, join some of these Facebook groups and have him reach out and get some legal help because I think now's a good time for him to go back and get a new parenting plan.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: And um just all I could think about that day was that and uh yeah.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just hoping that like we can figure out a better way to like we teach our boys always how to try to be gentlemen, but like are we teaching our our girls enough to how to be a lady?
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like it's not happening.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, I think I think that you're spot on.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think that we we want to teach our boys how to be gentlemen, but I think what happens a lot of times along with the teachings of a gentleman is if you're a gentleman, you get to take what you want and you deserve all of this.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: Now, before hear me out, um, I think on the flip side of that, that we we want to teach the women how to be a lady.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, when you think of like the biblical southern Baptist, what is a lady supposed to do?
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: I see where you're coming from.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_03: And so so it's like I think so many things can be wrong at the same time, and so many things can be true at the same time.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that I think that sometimes ugly, hurtful things come out of the teachings that were taught by ignorant people, and so it causes a cluster of shit.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_03: For example, and I won't go into crazy, but my personal example is I do not think the person that broke inside my home, that raped me, and that beat me and turned himself in for murder, I don't think that he's always been and always will be a horrible person.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think he did some fucked up shit, right?
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like I just I feel like so much was engraved in him in a way that he didn't know he was doing completely wrong.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_03: And again, it's not justification, but it goes to one thing that I always say is we are only as good as our leader.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_03: Our leader is in the Epstein Files more than Jesus is mentioned in the Bible.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_03: He has raped children, he has assaulted children, he has raped women, he steals, he connives, he's doing it right now, and he is our leader, and we are only as good as him.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_03: The day after you mentioned Texas, the day after they announced that Donald Trump won, there were boys in at Texas College.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_03: What is that?
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_03: University Kentucky.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_03: No, University of Texas, whatever.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um but he that they were going around videotaping ATM or whatever it is.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, where do I live?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_03: Either way, it doesn't matter.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: It was the big, obviously, big Texas college.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: There were videos the next morning of boys, college boys walking through campus in groups, filming, telling girls, your body my choice.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my, where did they get that?
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Because the whole your body, your choice thing, they were the opposite of, and so now where Donald Trump is pretty much said, I control your body.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: I have put in these judges, put it in these people's guys, put done away with Roe v.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_03: Wade and all these things where you have women have no anatomy anymore.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um women, girls are dying, women are dying in in parking lots because they doctors are not allowed to give emergency abortions to save their lives.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the baby and the mothers die in the parking lot.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_03: There's crazy cases of this, and so um it was Wow, I didn't know about that.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, I'm gonna send you forget.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: What is that?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: Ben Shapiro, isn't that his name?
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_03: One of Donald Trump's podcast people.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_03: Ben Shapiro said he was the one that started the quote.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_03: He was having a podcast live during that.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: So when um they announced that Donald Trump won, he said, All right, ladies, it is now your body, my choice.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_03: Meaning he's the man and he has to say something.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: So within 12 hours, college boys were going around Texas campus, making videos, going up to girls, saying, Your body, my choice.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_03: I can fuck you, I can get you pregnant, and I can decide if you get to keep the baby or not, if you get to live or not, your body, my choice.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's what these fucking children, college people are saying to other girls.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's just fucked up.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: That is pretty fucked up.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's so it goes back to we are only as good as our leader, and our leader is a child rapist.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_03: So what do we I mean?
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I think that goes for that goes for any, I would say that goes for any business aspects, you're only as good as your leader, right?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're only as good as your to your teacher, to to any superior that you have, right?
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm some kind of if I'm an influence to my godchildren, well, obviously I'm an influence to my godchildren.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm taking my godchildren out to McDonald's and Walmart, and I'm saying, hey, when you see a girl, flip her off.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_03: If you see a girl in a short skirt, you can grab her butt.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: If you see a girl, just know that it's your choice over her body, what are they gonna believe and think?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like that their superior is sold.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_03: So it doesn't matter if it's a president, a vice president, uh, a McDonald's manager, if it is somebody with authoritarian ship over another human, right?
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna believe that.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna mimic that.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I think maybe if we as a community, if we got rid of like the the child support made it 50-50, it'd allow dads to come back into the structure of the home and teach respect, honesty, kindness, boundaries, and responsibilities for the families.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that single-parent homes don't do that.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that the statistics already show that there are some things that are missing that fathers bring to that.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that would be really big if we could figure out a way to keep fathers in their kids' lives more than every other weekend.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, 100%.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: I agree with that.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not trying to knock that.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I'm just I was just stating, like, yeah, we are only as good as our leaders, stating that our parents are our leaders when we're kids.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and that and and that's what I want to be careful with is and I know that you didn't necessarily mean it this way, but where in in most times uh the the father, you know, you get 50-ish casty or every other weekend or whatever, usually it is the father that gets the last time.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_03: And so I just don't want it to seem as if we're saying that the father needs to have the predominant time, you know.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think there, I think there needs to be an that's why the 50-50, and usually the courts don't give 50-50.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course not.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, they'll give they make it like a a percentage below because they know they can knock them with uh child support.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's like the whole point of it.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's always the money, right?
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's like now the dad, now the dad has to work two jobs in order to pay child support, to pay alimony as well as his new house money.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: The mother has to either not have a job and live on welfare and just the child support, or work two jobs never see their child in order to pay for a babysitter, but yet she's a horrible mother.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_03: Dad is a horrible father because the dad works too many jobs.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's just an endless cycle when it all comes to the bucket the money is going into.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that it gets lost, the the the eyes get shifted, right?
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we kind of forgot also that I call it um I call it the substitute.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: And what it is is the mom will kids are always second to what mom's doing at the time, and she'll go get another man, but yet the dad is still paying his huge amount of child support, and she's got some other man now paying for everything else.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm going, okay, this happens quite a bit, and I see it almost more just in the last like 10 years more than I've ever seen before.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_01: Where I hear about the woman that like, oh, they're getting a divorce, she's living at her boyfriend's house already.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_01: They're already, they've already moved on.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, okay, so it's those.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_03: We're not gonna get I'm not gonna marry him as the mother, right?
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna marry him because when I do, I lose alimony or the child support percentage.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_01: No, they don't.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_01: They still get to keep it, they still get it because even if they marry even if they marry, they get to still get child support because the child's not alimony, just child support.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything about the alimony.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: I only know about child support on that scale.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_01: I bet some states are.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in doubt.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what Colorado's is, but I know that probably other you know what I would love.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_03: I would love for us to have a part two with this.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_03: I love that we I think that you and I have the same goal, thoughts, and beliefs, and morals and values and and things with this.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think that we think of them separately, but we end up getting to the same place, which I think is great conversation, right?
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_03: Because I've heard you say things that I haven't necessarily thought of.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I would love to say vice versa.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to say and think before I go to bed that you have heard me say things.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, okay, maybe Dave was right a little bit.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, perfect.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've I I'm always so good for conversation, I'm not like that at all.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I know, and I I was just no, I think here's what I would love.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think you've told me some things that might blew my mind for sure, like today.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_01: But what that happened?
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_03: So here's what I would love as a part two.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_03: I would love for us to look at.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to share some of those videos with you, right?
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, right, and and have your your thoughts on that uh if you hadn't seen them.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_03: But most importantly, I would love to know and research the things that you and I have debated tonight when it comes to mothers having custody, fathers having custody, payments and rights and things.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_03: Does it Matter if it's a red or blue state.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good one.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think I know the answer.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um I really do think you're right on something there, for sure.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_03: I would love for us to look into that.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_03: And and here's the thing that I love about my platform is we could log in tomorrow and Google enroll time together.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like we don't have to come in as as if we're experts, right?
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like you know, and like I want this to be a conversational piece.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_03: And luckily, like what I would love is to be able to release this episode.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so to the listener, I want to release this episode, and I want to give a few weeks before uh uh Farnsworth and I do a part two um to give you all time to send your thoughts, questions, links, videos, whatever.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, what I love Farnsworth is politics were brought up a little bit tonight.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we we we obviously see things from different perspectives, uh, but all out of love.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_03: I still feel as if we're friends when we log off here.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_03: You and I didn't fight, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_03: Like we so this is a prime example that we can have these conversations, we can have these these uh thoughts and and express them to someone that might have a different perspective and still be good, which is why I fucking love this.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't I mean, if I offended at anybody, I always say before you just get upset and come at me, go do your research, yeah, and then come at me, and I'd be glad to have that conversation, you know.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's what I get attacked quite a bit.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I get attacked quite a bit.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, here's the thing.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing is like I'm very calm and collective about how I feel about fathers being in households.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's really important, especially when you have uh, you know, uh a single family.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_01: You can still raise your kid if it's even a single family home with one parent being here and one parent being over here, you can still raise your kids without without problems.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_01: If we had a better system to allow that.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: But the system is what we're fighting, we need to be fighting against, not each other.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, see, I think that's the point that I want to highlight is I know that sometimes we can word things where it's like we're attacking the home, we're attacking the mother that wanted to divorce the father, or the or the father that wanted to divorce the mother, and there and there's that divide, which absolutely could be, and a lot of times is a factor, but what you just said was so brilliant.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_03: My house can be here and your house can be there, but we can live on the same street, right?
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like we can I even think that like they can live an hour away from each other, and still if they had a better plan, well, and by the same street, I mean same harmony, right?
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, same harmony.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, yeah, if they're if that harmony is the same, those kids are gonna get what they need, yeah, and they're not gonna feel like they have to do attention-seeking things, they don't have to feel like they have to go and be part of a gang, they don't feel like they have to do all these things to get that attention from that parent.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's also I've just been teaching a lot of dads that look, man, you gotta think outside the box.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta think outside the box when you do things.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think when it comes to dads and moms, they just we need to work together to fight the system so that they these kids can have a better hope for the future.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the that's the true beauty behind what I'm really trying to say.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not throwing out things just because I'm trying to be hateful in any way.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm throwing out statistics that really exist.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, 100%.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_03: And and I I do not think that you're trying to being hateful by any means or speaking.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_03: Some people would think I was because I was I'm saying well, there's going wrong home or something, you know.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_03: There's gonna be things that any of us can say that's gonna be triggering to people.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I get a lot of um uh responses to that people hate.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the but your trigger is your responsibility, not mine.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I will say I was someone who had you said that to me 10 years ago, I'd have been like, fuck you, you're the worst person ever.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_03: Shame on you.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_03: A couple years into it, through some therapy, through some healing, I was like, oh, yeah.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_03: So if someone is triggered and hates you, then that's I'm used to it by now.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's just as what it is, but if I can hate that, right?
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think there's always gonna be haters, but that's not on me.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, exactly, and when I said that I hate that, I don't hate that for you.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_03: You're you're in a healed place, you're in a great place, you're like, I can take the hate.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_03: I hate it for the people hating because that's a lot of wasted energy.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine, imagine if as much people that hate me for speaking out against child rapists, for speaking out against racism, for speaking out against celebrating poverty.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine if I took all of that, if we took all that hate and put it into putting making sure every child was fat at school.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would be amazing.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't that be great?
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I will tell you right now working at a being being at a school system, those kids that when they go for summer, they actually some of them don't eat.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: I worked especially with with uh kids that were very neglected and stuff, and they ate like once a day, maybe.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_01: So getting them those meals is huge.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I agree with you on that.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Feeding the kids, man, it's huge.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's fucking huge.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_03: I know I'm a put all that hate and stuff and put it into something great like that, you know?
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_03: You can disagree with me.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_03: You can be like, that bitch.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_03: That bitch.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_03: But it is taking the time to send me a death threat, a rape threat, a fuck you slur threat.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, worth it?
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_03: Because I don't care what you think of me.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_03: You probably come up from a red state, you're probably uneducated, you are probably unable to pay for gas in your car, and you will probably vote for Donald Trump again, even though it's against our constitution.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm okay.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm fine.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_03: But what I do want to say is every time that you do like, comment, even thumbs down, or leave a review, I get money for it.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_03: And what I do is I send that money to my elementary school, the the school that I that I was went to elementary school, like I'm so partial to it.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_03: They did a lovely thing um when my family went through a tragedy when I was a child, like did blood drives and donations um that saved so many people.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_03: And so when I get 25 cents,$30,$150 at a time, I send it to that school to feed a child.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_03: So when you tell me that you want to rape and kill me, um because you are family first, I have not been raped or killed by you, but I felt I fed a I fed a child or two.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_02: I guess so.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Ish.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_03: No, yeah.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_03: It was so good to hang out with you again and to record with you.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_03: Let's definitely do the part two to this.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_03: What I love about these conversations is when we can when you get two people from two for two different kinds of walks of life that can be open and receptive to each other's thoughts and experiences, and we don't fight about it.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_03: This wasn't a a debate of us trying to improve each other.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think there's so many truths.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I love that this can be an ongoing conversation.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's a I think it's a good conversation.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think we got a lot of funny things that we could probably talk about too.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I um uh thanks for having me on.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is awesome-ish.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_03: So well, I need you to learn how to use ish properly.
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_03: This is awesome.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_03: Could have been a complete sentence.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome-ish.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, fine.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_00: You're probably I didn't know what to come up with.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was just going with it, man.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and maybe we'll get matching tattoos and what maybe we'll both get a trans that just says ish.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_03: We'll talk about it.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_03: Where's the rest of it?
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, would you like to know?
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, buddy.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for being here.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_03: I um I can't wait to have this out.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_03: Let's have off the record conversations about part two.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I think this is gonna be a fun, ongoing conversation.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Touche.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_03: All right, buddy.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'll talk to you soon.