Latest / Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald / TV Marriages, Divorces, and RHONJ Drama with Tammy Pescatelli
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- 0:52Speaker 2: listen up. Woo, woo. Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have my good friend,
- 1:03Speaker 1: fellow funny lady, stand-up comic extraordinaire, Tammy Pascatelli, welcome back
- 1:08Speaker 1: to Juicy Scoop and welcome back to LA.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, my friend. I love you.
- 1:13Speaker 2: You look beautiful. You look sunshiny. You're a true California girl.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I am wearing the sexy version of the outfit that
- 1:21Speaker 1: so many female comics wear on stage, which is the
- 1:24Speaker 1: I work at a Jiffy Lube.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rosie the Riveter.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:28Speaker 1: But I just bought this yesterday. It's a short version, shorts,
- 1:32Speaker 1: but it really is comfortable and I really see why Yeah.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Female comics make it their uniform.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And it's really sexy, too, because you have great legs.
- 1:41Speaker 1: It's short.
- 1:42Speaker 2: It looks like you're going to either have sex with
- 1:44Speaker 2: someone or change their oil. That's it. That's one of
- 1:47Speaker 2: the two things you're going to do.
- 1:48Speaker 1: You look great. I love it. Go to HeatherMcDonald.net. I
- 1:52Speaker 1: have all my dates. Tammy, what's your next date? Let's
- 1:56Speaker 1: just do it at the top. Where's your next shows coming?
- 1:59Speaker 2: I have shows in Kenosha, Wisconsin, at the Kenosha Comedy Club.
- 2:02Speaker 2: You can come see me there. In Boston at the
- 2:04Speaker 2: end of June. I mean, I've, I don't know, go
- 2:06Speaker 2: to pescatelli.com.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Where can they find you? And then we'll do it
- 2:08Speaker 1: at the end too. Not at my house.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Don't follow me to my house. Go to pescatelli.com.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Awesome. Okay, now let's get into some juicy stories. So
- 2:17Speaker 1: Megan Thee Stallion is being sued by a former employee
- 2:23Speaker 1: who says that he was traumatized because allegedly he was
- 2:29Speaker 1: in a limo with her and he was like her
- 2:32Speaker 1: camera guy, I guess for social media or video. And
- 2:36Speaker 1: she was getting together with another woman and she forced
- 2:38Speaker 1: him to watch and he did not want to be there.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And then he said afterwards he went from being a
- 2:46Speaker 1: full-time employee to a gig employee and Now he's suing.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And her people are like, this is ridiculous. This is
- 2:54Speaker 1: just like a money grab thing. And I mean, the
- 2:58Speaker 1: comments were pretty hilarious, as you can imagine.
- 3:00Speaker 2: It's amazing to me how we grew up in such
- 3:03Speaker 2: a different time that these stories that these people are
- 3:06Speaker 2: suing for were all stories that they wrote into Penthouse.
- 3:13Speaker 2: That is so true.
- 3:15Speaker 1: They're just fantasies.
- 3:17Speaker 2: They were just all these great things. And now celebs
- 3:19Speaker 2: are having to pay for it. I'm just saying, what
- 3:22Speaker 2: is the point of being a celebrity if you can't
- 3:25Speaker 2: have bad behavior and unbridled sex? That was the whole
- 3:28Speaker 2: point of getting famous and being rich.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Well, she and her people deny it. And he's asking
- 3:34Speaker 1: for millions of dollars. He's never going to be the same.
- 3:38Speaker 1: He's traumatized. Billie Eilish. Yes. She has now said– she
- 3:45Speaker 1: finally spoke on her– not vagina– spoke on her sexuality saying,
- 3:49Speaker 1: I wanted my face in a vagina. She said, I
- 3:53Speaker 1: wasn't going to speak about this, but I've always been
- 3:54Speaker 1: attracted to girls. And then one day I just woke
- 3:56Speaker 1: up and I was like, all I want is my
- 3:58Speaker 1: face to be in a vagina. And I'm like, tell
- 4:00Speaker 1: us how you really feel, Billie.
- 4:01Speaker 2: But it was when you were born. It was already there.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Like you didn't have to– like it was.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Yes.
- 4:07Speaker 2: That's how you work. You're born face up, right in
- 4:09Speaker 2: the vagina. That's how it works.
- 4:10Speaker 1: She wrote a song about going to lunch, munch. I
- 4:15Speaker 1: don't know.
- 4:16Speaker 2: It's the new Kiss the Girl. I kissed a girl's
- 4:19Speaker 2: vajayjay and I liked it now. I mean, what do
- 4:21Speaker 2: we do?
- 4:23Speaker 4: Go.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Be you.
- 4:24Speaker 1: It's not a shock or anything. She has dated guys,
- 4:27Speaker 1: but whatever. And then this story, just as we're keeping
- 4:31Speaker 1: in the late in life, Les, you know, or early
- 4:33Speaker 1: in life for Billy. Yeah. Mel B had a relationship
- 4:38Speaker 1: with a woman for like five years in the early 2000s,
- 4:42Speaker 1: and they're still very friendly. And she just said that,
- 4:46Speaker 1: you know, they were, you know, she's fluid and all
- 4:49Speaker 1: of this. But I'm kind of like, when was this?
- 4:51Speaker 2: No, I think I remember.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:53Speaker 2: I think it was right before the Eddie Murphy stuff.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Because she had a child with Eddie Murphy.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I remember this happening because it was
- 5:03Speaker 2: so scandalous at the time because the women weren't out
- 5:07Speaker 2: like that.
- 5:07Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 5:08Speaker 2: It wasn't, it wasn't so, you know, typical or topical. Like,
- 5:13Speaker 2: you know, that was a, they had to pay off
- 5:16Speaker 2: National Enquirer, I'm sure they didn't hide it. They just
- 5:19Speaker 2: paid a lot of money to hide it.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Or did they hide it? I wonder if there's like
- 5:22Speaker 1: people that are like, oh my God, why didn't I
- 5:24Speaker 1: get this attention? I was a lesbian for a minute
- 5:28Speaker 1: and it didn't help me at all. I didn't get
- 5:30Speaker 1: any articles. Maybe they didn't hide it, but like nobody cared.
- 5:34Speaker 2: I just want you to notice the jumpsuit.
- 5:35Speaker 1: It's back in.
- 5:36Speaker 2: That's what I want you to see. I want you
- 5:38Speaker 2: to see.
- 5:38Speaker 1: The jean jumpsuit, good American, shout out to Khloe Kardashian,
- 5:42Speaker 1: makes a really cute In a short version like that, Jean,
- 5:48Speaker 1: and also the whole body. And I remember J-Lo was
- 5:50Speaker 1: the one that kind of made that famous in the
- 5:53Speaker 1: early 2000s. But you need a curvy body to make
- 5:57Speaker 1: that work. Yeah, you do. You need an ass.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Some things are really cute. But let's
- 6:03Speaker 2: also talk about that's adorable that you have on right there, right?
- 6:06Speaker 2: It is. But we just went to the restroom before
- 6:08Speaker 2: we came here. And it did take you about seven
- 6:10Speaker 2: minutes to get in and out, right? I mean, listen,
- 6:13Speaker 2: you can do it because you're quick and fast. I'm
- 6:16Speaker 2: a little bit older than you, and if I have
- 6:18Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom, I don't have the seven minutes,
- 6:20Speaker 2: all right? I don't have the time to do all
- 6:22Speaker 2: the– if I could have a Velcro in my crotch,
- 6:26Speaker 2: I think I would do that.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Like a dude?
- 6:28Speaker 2: No, like a baby. I just want to do the
- 6:30Speaker 2: baby thing and just walk around just like that.
- 6:33Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, I think it went like Spice Girls–
- 6:37Speaker 1: Then I think maybe she had, like, one kid or
- 6:40Speaker 1: maybe not.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Then she had this. Then it was Eddie Murphy. Then
- 6:45Speaker 1: it was America's Got Talent.
- 6:46Speaker 2: That crazy guy, though. She dated— well, allegedly crazy, right? Oh,
- 6:50Speaker 2: wasn't she— Her husband was really super controlling.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Wait, wasn't that Belafonte's son? Wasn't she married to him, too?
- 6:58Speaker 2: I don't remember. She's had some— really public relationship.
- 7:01Speaker 1: This was probably the nicest one she had. That's why
- 7:04Speaker 1: she's probably looking on it fondly now. She was like,
- 7:07Speaker 1: that was the only normal person I dated because she
- 7:09Speaker 1: was a woman.
- 7:10Speaker 2: She was part of that. I think he alleged that
- 7:13Speaker 2: she was with a woman.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Oh.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I mean, look, people need to find who they are.
- 7:18Speaker 2: That's fine. Whenever it takes. You don't know who you
- 7:20Speaker 2: are really until you're 40s anyway. I mean, she looks great.
- 7:23Speaker 2: They just did that whole reunion where They sang the
- 7:26Speaker 2: karaoke song so nobody there could sing it. I mean,
- 7:29Speaker 2: how about that? What if the Spice Girls was your
- 7:31Speaker 2: go-to karaoke song and then you go to Posh's birthday
- 7:34Speaker 2: party and they just take it from you?
- 7:38Speaker 1: She said, I fell in love with a woman for
- 7:40Speaker 1: five years. An experiment doesn't last five years. So she's
- 7:43Speaker 1: saying it was an experiment, but she's fluid. And she said,
- 7:48Speaker 1: I don't see any fear. Why would I have fear?
- 7:50Speaker 1: I'm not a fearful person. As soon as I left home,
- 7:53Speaker 1: I lived my life fully. So she's, you know, doesn't
- 7:56Speaker 1: fear homophobia in any way. And then, but also Billie Eilish,
- 8:00Speaker 1: I found the lyrics to her song. I could eat
- 8:03Speaker 1: that girl for lunch. Yeah, she dances on my tongue.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Tastes like she might be the one. And I can
- 8:08Speaker 1: never get enough.
- 8:11Speaker 2: No, I know how this song goes. I know how
- 8:12Speaker 2: it goes.
- 8:12Speaker 1: But every Billie Eilish song is like, let me just,
- 8:15Speaker 1: I don't know how this song goes. So someone's going
- 8:17Speaker 1: to be like, that's not how it goes. But like,
- 8:18Speaker 1: it was like, I could eat that girl for lunch.
- 8:25Speaker 1: It's opera. Yeah, she dances on my tongue. Tastes like
- 8:34Speaker 1: she might be the one.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Listen, I'm no prude. I don't care what you do.
- 8:40Speaker 2: But is there anything else to sing about anymore? Is
- 8:43Speaker 2: it all sex? Is it all sex? Does anybody look
- 8:47Speaker 2: at flowers, watch birds? I mean, do you read a book?
- 8:51Speaker 1: I was in the car with my son, so he
- 8:55Speaker 1: turns on his music, which are all the songs that,
- 8:58Speaker 1: you know, have the dirty words or whatever. And I'm
- 9:02Speaker 1: just like, oh, my God. And he goes, could you
- 9:04Speaker 1: just stop that? I felt like such an old lady.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I was like, Brandon, like, this is horrible. Like, these
- 9:10Speaker 1: words are horrible. It's so– the girl raps have got, like,
- 9:14Speaker 1: so hardcore about, like– Getting it wet and sticking, like, everything. Yeah.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Well, Prince had the Dirty album, right? And he had
- 9:25Speaker 2: Darling Nikki, where he talked about, you know... Can I
- 9:29Speaker 2: say it? I don't even know.
- 9:30Speaker 1: I feel like so many of those things were over
- 9:31Speaker 1: my head. I didn't even get it.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Really? You never heard? I knew a girl named Nikki.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You had to know that. No, I remember the song,
- 9:36Speaker 1: but I don't know what was.
- 9:37Speaker 2: The- Masturbating with a magazine. You had to know what
- 9:39Speaker 2: that was.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Well, it's masturbating with a magazine, but I mean, it
- 9:42Speaker 1: was spelled out for you. Was there some secret thing
- 9:44Speaker 1: that was worse in it that went over my head?
- 9:46Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. I'm just saying there was just,
- 9:48Speaker 2: he had erotic city. Okay. We can, to the dawn,
- 9:52Speaker 2: making love till something. I don't want to say things
- 9:55Speaker 2: because I don't even want to say them now, even
- 9:57Speaker 2: though I didn't even sing them back then. So I
- 10:00Speaker 2: guess it's just it's not shocking. It's been done. We
- 10:05Speaker 2: talked about it. You know what I mean? Like, I
- 10:08Speaker 2: didn't know half the stuff. There was other things, though, too.
- 10:11Speaker 2: It took me till I was in my 20s to
- 10:13Speaker 2: understand that the village people meant because they were gay
- 10:16Speaker 2: men from the East Village.
- 10:18Speaker 1: In New York. My mom said she didn't even know
- 10:20Speaker 1: that women could be gay until she was like 30.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Not only men could be gay.
- 10:25Speaker 2: That's Catholic.
- 10:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Except that she didn't realize that some of the nuns
- 10:28Speaker 2: were just hanging out. That's the reason. Because nun was N-O-N-E.
- 10:32Speaker 1: I remember one Christmas my sister Shannon gave me this book.
- 10:36Speaker 1: I was in high school, but she knew I would
- 10:37Speaker 1: love it. And it was like Secrets of Lesbian Nuns.
- 10:40Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you. I loved reading that book. And
- 10:46Speaker 1: I was like, yeah.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I don't remember. I remember. I feel like they didn't.
- 10:51Speaker 1: It's only in the secret book. They didn't talk about
- 10:54Speaker 1: being a lesbian.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Did it have a decoder ring?
- 10:56Speaker 1: No, but in the book it talked about these women's
- 11:00Speaker 1: stories of the convent and everything. And then I listened
- 11:04Speaker 1: to this podcast about Mother Teresa.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Wait, stop yourself, Heather. I got a whole life that
- 11:12Speaker 2: I've lived to go to heaven. So if you're going
- 11:15Speaker 2: to jinx my heaven entry pass right here, like I
- 11:18Speaker 2: got the special VIP. I got the close parking. I've
- 11:21Speaker 2: been working really hard. So watch what you're about to
- 11:25Speaker 2: say with your Mother Teresa thing because I might just
- 11:28Speaker 2: have to put a disclaimer.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Well, then don't look it up.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Come on, for real?
- 11:34Speaker 1: Not that she was a lesbian.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I thought you were saying.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I wish that was all it was. No, she was mean.
- 11:41Speaker 1: It was that she was a mean bitch.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:44Speaker 1: She, it was a very, and she was kind of
- 11:46Speaker 1: thirsty and, and it was very, you know, definitely cult-like.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It wasn't, the work that they were doing was not
- 11:53Speaker 1: the nuns I knew that taught, like there's the nuns
- 11:56Speaker 1: that are nurses and there's the nuns that are teachers.
- 11:58Speaker 1: And then there's the ones that like help the poor, whatever. Yes,
- 12:01Speaker 1: they were helping the poor, but it was, Such a
- 12:04Speaker 1: PR thing about Mother Teresa back in that time. And,
- 12:08Speaker 1: you know, Catholic girls, you know, did get sucked into it.
- 12:11Speaker 1: It's very, very juicy. I know. But there were some
- 12:16Speaker 1: women that told their story that, you know, were attracted
- 12:18Speaker 1: to women and that type of thing that found themselves
- 12:21Speaker 1: in this really kind of, it was sort of culty. Yeah,
- 12:25Speaker 1: people are going to be mad that I said that.
- 12:26Speaker 1: But if you listen to this thing, just look it up.
- 12:28Speaker 1: It is juicy as hell.
- 12:30Speaker 2: No, you can't be mad. You know, look. You can't
- 12:32Speaker 2: be a saint all the time. You have to have
- 12:36Speaker 2: a few moments off of sainthood. There has to be,
- 12:39Speaker 2: you know.
- 12:40Speaker 1: The story I remember from it that was the most,
- 12:42Speaker 1: so this woman goes, tells her story that she was
- 12:44Speaker 1: kind of like Mother Teresa's like Girl Friday or whatever,
- 12:48Speaker 1: like her assistant. And she was a nun too. And
- 12:51Speaker 1: they go on this plane and everyone's like, oh my God,
- 12:53Speaker 1: we're on the plane with Mother Teresa. You know, she's,
- 12:56Speaker 1: you know, this little tiny thing humbled over. And she said, um,
- 13:00Speaker 1: Can we get a bag to gather all the extra
- 13:03Speaker 1: food on the plane that wasn't used so that I
- 13:06Speaker 1: can bring it to the poor? And so they bring
- 13:09Speaker 1: her this. Everybody's like, oh, my God, they're giving their lunch.
- 13:11Speaker 1: They're buying, you know. Handing you to all the extra peanuts.
- 13:14Speaker 1: And she gets this big bag. Oh, thank you. And
- 13:17Speaker 1: then they got off the plane and she threw it away.
- 13:19Speaker 1: It was just like for looks. That's this woman's story.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Well, we know that sometimes people lie.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Let's also go.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Let's also know that maybe one day Mother Teresa forgot
- 13:30Speaker 2: her assistant's name. I mean, she was 100, you know.
- 13:34Speaker 1: OK, first of all, you know, you know, this supposed
- 13:36Speaker 1: ban of TikTok is happening. Yes. Biden said no to
- 13:39Speaker 1: TikTok unless an American company buys it because he doesn't
- 13:42Speaker 1: trust that, you know, whatever, the Chinese are not taking
- 13:47Speaker 1: all our information.
- 13:48Speaker 2: And I just have to say this. I am not
- 13:49Speaker 2: for censorship, clearly, as someone who works with words. But
- 13:54Speaker 2: as someone who doesn't have high numbers on TikTok, I
- 13:56Speaker 2: would love that the field would level a little bit.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Because literally all of us who have like 30 years
- 14:03Speaker 2: in an industry got obliterated by someone who just had
- 14:08Speaker 2: a phone. And, you know, we didn't know to do it.
- 14:12Speaker 1: So I follow a lot of people that are like
- 14:14Speaker 1: great creators that give scoop. But I, too, you know.
- 14:19Speaker 1: work really hard to put my stuff out there and
- 14:21Speaker 1: it doesn't really like pop as much as other, when
- 14:24Speaker 1: I put it on other places. But I did see
- 14:28Speaker 1: that the kids that are in like China, their TikTok feeds,
- 14:33Speaker 1: it's all educational, great stuff that they make them see.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Yet our people here are seeing the worst stuff. Sometimes
- 14:41Speaker 1: it's radicalization of like, you know, things that are just
- 14:44Speaker 1: not true and, you know, making us dumber. So there's
- 14:48Speaker 1: that with your kids.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:51Speaker 1: But I, too, agree with the no censorship. However, this
- 14:55Speaker 1: thing I found out, this is Rin and Jacqueline. And
- 14:59Speaker 1: this little girl is only four and has 17 million
- 15:03Speaker 1: followers because her mom is doing it. And there's a
- 15:06Speaker 1: lot of people thinking the mom. Yeah. The mom knows
- 15:09Speaker 1: what she's doing, though, in that she will have her
- 15:12Speaker 1: do things that can be seen as very sexualized. And
- 15:18Speaker 1: some people won't recognize that it's sexualized because they're just,
- 15:21Speaker 1: you know, following her. But you can see they dressed
- 15:24Speaker 1: her up and she put this makeup on. And it
- 15:26Speaker 1: has down here 26,800 people saved it. So why are
- 15:33Speaker 1: you saving it?
- 15:34Speaker 2: I'm a little sick.
- 15:35Speaker 1: This one, she's eating a popsicle. And all she does
- 15:39Speaker 1: is sit there. There's no sound, no music. It's just
- 15:41Speaker 1: her eating, sucking on the Popsicle at two years old.
- 15:46Speaker 1: And the really disturbing thing is, not only is that disturbing,
- 15:50Speaker 1: but you can, with AI now, replace that image with
- 15:54Speaker 1: something else. And she has no, well, I mean, she's
- 15:56Speaker 1: just a two-year-old. She doesn't know what's going on. And
- 15:58Speaker 1: I think some of these parents are like, well, it's
- 16:00Speaker 1: not like she's out of my care, but her image
- 16:04Speaker 1: without her consent. And she's very recognizable. She has a
- 16:08Speaker 1: very unique face. And this is going to be out
- 16:10Speaker 1: there forever.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Ever since, you know, I told you my best friend Laura,
- 16:16Speaker 2: the police officer, and I, we do The Cop and
- 16:18Speaker 2: the Comedian, which everybody's been so cool to follow. I've
- 16:21Speaker 2: had the hardest time deprogramming a lot of that stuff.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:27Speaker 2: It's very hard. And we've talked to experts that are like,
- 16:32Speaker 2: you should never put any child on the internet right now.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It's not the old days. It's not the place where
- 16:40Speaker 2: your relatives could see what was going on with your child.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Right now, there are pedophiles that are combing the internet
- 16:47Speaker 2: to take those pictures, to replace those photos. When you
- 16:51Speaker 2: put makeup on your kid's even though we know it's
- 16:53Speaker 2: cute and it's adorable to us because we know in
- 16:56Speaker 2: what spirit we did it, there is someone who is
- 17:00Speaker 2: now in your home.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Well, also the woman, Jacqueline, her Instagram is private. Her
- 17:07Speaker 1: life is very private. She doesn't share anything about herself,
- 17:11Speaker 1: yet her four-year-old, who's been, she's been filming since birth
- 17:15Speaker 1: and has accumulated 17 million followers and is probably, I'm sure.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Supporting the whole family. That child might, we don't even
- 17:23Speaker 2: know the mother. You don't even know if they know her?
- 17:26Speaker 1: No, I mean, they're real people. They're real people. But
- 17:29Speaker 1: I'm saying like, how is it okay that you exploit
- 17:32Speaker 1: your child like that? Like, you know, I have a
- 17:34Speaker 1: lot more respect for the mom who's doing OnlyFans. That's
- 17:38Speaker 1: the mom. Like, what are you, your kid is not
- 17:40Speaker 1: asking for this. They can't consent to their images being
- 17:44Speaker 1: around for the rest of their life.
- 17:45Speaker 2: No, and it's really hard too, because like, if you
- 17:48Speaker 2: say something to somebody, like, I'll never forget saying something
- 17:52Speaker 2: to like, I had a friend that was putting up
- 17:55Speaker 2: these videos of their daughter who was amazing in gymnastics,
- 17:59Speaker 2: but tiny little suit and all that out. And it's
- 18:03Speaker 2: just like local gymnastics. And I said, I'd be very
- 18:05Speaker 2: careful because people are really, really sick. And she was like, oh,
- 18:10Speaker 2: that's how you think. And I'm like, yeah, I know
- 18:13Speaker 2: I think that way. I wish I didn't. But I
- 18:16Speaker 2: think that way.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Talk to anybody who's ever been in the FBI and
- 18:18Speaker 1: they'd agree with you.
- 18:19Speaker 2: I think that way because it's real.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Like it's real. The car is beautiful.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Where did you end up going for it?
- 18:26Speaker 2: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
- 18:29Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
- 18:32Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
- 18:34Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Where?
- 18:38Speaker 1: Dune ADL.
- 18:39Speaker 2: There's an accent on the E.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Do you mean?
- 18:42Speaker 2: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal cars.
- 18:44Speaker 3: Lift?
- 18:45Speaker 1: Please. You're going past Kimmage. Oh, Kimmage.
- 18:48Speaker 3: No.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Done deal cars.
- 18:50Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 18:56Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 18:59Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks. and yet somehow have found a
- 19:04Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
- 19:10Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
- 19:12Speaker 1: filed against me.
- 19:13Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
- 19:15Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
- 19:18Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 19:21Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
- 19:23Speaker 1: He said, I have a work debt.
- 19:24Speaker 3: I need a home debt.
- 19:25Speaker 2: What happens next?
- 19:26Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying. Everybody in life
- 19:29Speaker 1: encounters hardships.
- 19:30Speaker 3: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
- 19:34Speaker 3: go through.
- 19:34Speaker 2: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
- 19:37Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
- 19:43Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
- 19:45Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 19:48Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 19:59Speaker 1: Okay, I wanted to talk about....
- 20:02Speaker 2: Oh boy, let's do it.
- 20:04Speaker 1: The Vanderpump is... So good. And so is the Valley.
- 20:09Speaker 1: And Sheena got very upset with Tom in the last
- 20:14Speaker 1: episode because he said, God, you cheated too, you know.
- 20:18Speaker 1: And she was like, I was 21. It was 2006.
- 20:20Speaker 1: This guy lied to me. I didn't. How would she know?
- 20:24Speaker 1: It's not like Eddie Cibrianne. was some famous, famous, famous actor.
- 20:29Speaker 1: He was like a soap guy or something or a small...
- 20:32Speaker 1: And so she believed that he was separated, whatever. And God,
- 20:36Speaker 1: let's not forget, the only reason Vanderpump Rules is here
- 20:39Speaker 1: is because Sheena Shea had an affair with Brandi Glanville's
- 20:44Speaker 1: husband who was a serial cheater. So, yeah, I thought
- 20:48Speaker 1: that was pretty great when she brought that up to him.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
- 20:52Speaker 1: I texted you.
- 20:53Speaker 2: And I said, all of this point He kept waiting.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Tom kept waiting for Raquel or Rachel, whatever her name is,
- 21:01Speaker 2: to come back. Right. If she'd have come back, Rachel,
- 21:05Speaker 2: you better believe, would have been marching her unabashed behind
- 21:09Speaker 2: up into that house with Ariana there. And he would
- 21:13Speaker 2: have had her there. They'd have been frolicking in the pool.
- 21:16Speaker 2: He was keeping that house for her and their babies.
- 21:19Speaker 2: That was the whole point. If she'd have been back
- 21:21Speaker 2: on this show, you would have really seen what the
- 21:25Speaker 2: dementia that was happening with him where he was going
- 21:28Speaker 2: to just have her be part of it. He has
- 21:30Speaker 2: no respect for any of it. I was really– I've
- 21:33Speaker 2: never been a huge Brock fan, I'll be honest. I
- 21:35Speaker 2: did not like him. I just– you know, I always
- 21:38Speaker 2: thought like he doesn't understand the nanny situation because– God bless,
- 21:41Speaker 2: but he wasn't there when his children were little. He
- 21:44Speaker 2: was over here, so he didn't understand what it went through, right,
- 21:47Speaker 2: why she wouldn't want to do that. But when Brock
- 21:50Speaker 2: stood up for her, I thought that was pretty good.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Brock physically put himself in between Tom and Sheena, and
- 21:56Speaker 2: Sheena was hot. Like, that's not a friend. I don't
- 21:58Speaker 2: know why she'd ever want to talk to Tom again.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Friends don't bring up all that stuff. I feel like
- 22:04Speaker 2: this season is such a— it' s like, you know that saying
- 22:09Speaker 2: with friends like that who needs enemies?
- 22:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:11Speaker 2: That poor Katie, I don't know them from Adam, but
- 22:15Speaker 2: has anybody a respecter of what she's been through in
- 22:18Speaker 2: the past couple years? Do you now see what Tom
- 22:20Speaker 2: did to that girl, that girl Jo?
- 22:22Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz, yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 2: How she flipped out in four months, whether she was
- 22:27Speaker 2: before or not.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 22:27Speaker 1: She's now.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Because he lied and let her on it.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:31Speaker 2: He did. He gaslit Katie for a decade.
- 22:33Speaker 4: Yes.
- 22:34Speaker 2: Maybe she was tequila Katie because he was shoving her
- 22:37Speaker 2: off the cliff all the time. Why don't we get
- 22:39Speaker 2: a little bit of grace for this woman right there?
- 22:42Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Like, I think we're forgetting about grace. You know, you
- 22:47Speaker 2: get mad at Ariana for staying or I never say
- 22:50Speaker 2: it correctly.
- 22:50Speaker 1: So she says you can say it either way. I guess,
- 22:53Speaker 1: you know, there's not a correct way.
- 22:54Speaker 2: But yeah, we all have to move at our own
- 22:57Speaker 2: pace with things, you know. I get when when she
- 23:00Speaker 2: is having a hard time saying that she doesn't trust
- 23:02Speaker 2: Brock with Lala, not because of them. I had a
- 23:05Speaker 2: cousin whose husband cheated. I was there the day they met.
- 23:09Speaker 2: You believe in that love. You believe. And when you
- 23:11Speaker 2: see a friendship that you really or a couple really
- 23:14Speaker 2: break up because of something like that, you're like, oh,
- 23:17Speaker 2: my gosh, it's like getting hit by a two by four.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:20Speaker 2: You start thinking intrusive thoughts.
- 23:22Speaker 1: So.
- 23:23Speaker 2: I think they're all really going through it. It would
- 23:25Speaker 2: have been really neat to invoke a doctor. They should
- 23:28Speaker 2: all be going through group therapy. That's how they should
- 23:30Speaker 2: take this to the next level.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Well, I think this is a level of group therapy,
- 23:33Speaker 1: the show. Now, the Valley was very explosive last night.
- 23:37Speaker 1: We had a shocking guest star show up. That is me.
- 23:43Speaker 1: As you can see, my bracelet and my nails and
- 23:46Speaker 1: my gloves. They just focused on me at Jack's– losing
- 23:51Speaker 1: hair party for his product. Here I am in the
- 23:54Speaker 1: back just talking.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Oh, there you are, beautiful.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen. Anyway, a lot of people are like, why
- 24:01Speaker 1: are you there? And I'm like, because I was invited
- 24:03Speaker 1: and why wouldn't I go?
- 24:05Speaker 2: This whole thing is him laying the groundwork to leave her.
- 24:08Speaker 2: You know that one episode when the Toms on Vanderpump
- 24:12Speaker 2: were going, oh, she's so mean to me. Ariana's mean
- 24:15Speaker 2: to you?
- 24:16Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 24:17Speaker 2: She discounts me. She puts me down. She belittles me, dude.
- 24:21Speaker 2: That's this whole thing is setting up. Oh, we never
- 24:23Speaker 2: have sex. I almost felt like when he was talking
- 24:26Speaker 2: to Jasmine, he was like trying to say, hey, we
- 24:29Speaker 2: never have sex. You know, my wife and I and.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Jasmine is the one who brought it up. I mean,
- 24:35Speaker 1: it was a very set scene, obviously, to have the conversation.
- 24:38Speaker 1: I feel so bad.
- 24:39Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I got caught in that
- 24:41Speaker 2: whole thing with all these fake accounts saying I know
- 24:45Speaker 2: anything about their life. I don't. I'm just a viewer.
- 24:47Speaker 2: I don't know them at all. I just feel like
- 24:49Speaker 2: it's really sad. I also think that it's very funny
- 24:51Speaker 2: that Kristen, who went so hardcore for Ariana with Tom,
- 24:57Speaker 2: then kept it a secret for a year that her
- 25:00Speaker 2: friend had a boyfriend and was cheating on her husband.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Like her morality level is kind of.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Well, the argument would be I'm friends with Michelle. I'm not.
- 25:11Speaker 1: And who knows how good friends they really were. But
- 25:14Speaker 1: the whole thing is I kept my girlfriend's secret. But
- 25:16Speaker 1: you're right. That's the same thing Tom Schwartz did. Now,
- 25:19Speaker 1: there's not– I don't know the friendship history, but what
- 25:21Speaker 1: does it matter if you're friends for six months or
- 25:23Speaker 1: six years? You're right. That's a really good point. So
- 25:26Speaker 1: on the Valley, the latest episode, you know, they start
- 25:29Speaker 1: getting in the fight because the realtor guy, you know,
- 25:33Speaker 1: is freaking out, feeling insecure and all this. And he
- 25:38Speaker 1: has another moment where he slams the table. And they're
- 25:42Speaker 1: going after– I like that Christian's boyfriend stands up for
- 25:45Speaker 1: her too. I loved it. And I love the other guy,
- 25:48Speaker 1: the cutie patootie. What's his name? Those two.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Nia and Danny. They steal it. We love them.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Yeah. The one. Wait. He's not in the photo.
- 25:55Speaker 2: He's right there with his vest on having a good time.
- 25:57Speaker 2: He's sitting.
- 25:57Speaker 1: He looks so tiny.
- 25:58Speaker 2: No, no. He's the dad.
- 25:58Speaker 1: But wait. Brittany's gay best friend. Luke. He's not in
- 26:03Speaker 1: the poster.
- 26:03Speaker 2: I can't figure out if Luke has a wig on
- 26:05Speaker 2: or is that a hair hat?
- 26:06Speaker 1: No, I met him in person. It's his hair.
- 26:07Speaker 2: It's amazing hair.
- 26:08Speaker 1: So anyway, I mean, I love that he was like
- 26:10Speaker 1: physically keeping everybody apart and no one seemed to address that.
- 26:16Speaker 1: But then Kristen finally was like, yeah, fuck you. I
- 26:19Speaker 1: kept your secret that you had a boyfriend for a year. Well,
- 26:21Speaker 1: now they are separated. She already is out going around
- 26:24Speaker 1: with another boyfriend. I don't know if that was the
- 26:25Speaker 1: same guy or a different one. But they're done. And
- 26:29Speaker 1: it's just very, very real to see all that.
- 26:33Speaker 2: It's hard for me. Here's real quick just to say,
- 26:36Speaker 2: since it's all new, I don't know if does Jesse
- 26:40Speaker 2: have a point to be crazy and be rude because
- 26:44Speaker 2: his wife is cheating or is she cheating because he's
- 26:46Speaker 2: crazy and rude? Yeah. Is Brittany... drinking too much. And
- 26:51Speaker 2: so now Jax alienated or is she drinking too much
- 26:54Speaker 2: because Jax has alienated her?
- 26:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:57Speaker 2: I don't know yet that I don't know who I
- 27:00Speaker 2: side with yet in this show, but I'm interested in it.
- 27:03Speaker 2: It's a really, really, really good show.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really, really good. I mean, I like Jax
- 27:08Speaker 1: and Brittany a lot. You know, it's hard to say
- 27:11Speaker 1: if someone can get past this time or not. I
- 27:14Speaker 1: think it's like if you give yourself that breather time
- 27:18Speaker 1: to separate and explore other things, I do think, as
- 27:23Speaker 1: someone who's been married a long time who's never done that,
- 27:25Speaker 1: I think your chances are way less.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Of getting back together?
- 27:29Speaker 1: Of getting back together.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 27:30Speaker 1: I really, really do. You have to get through the hate.
- 27:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:35Speaker 1: And you have to, you have to still, like, whatever
- 27:38Speaker 1: it is, and hope that in the marriage, things will
- 27:43Speaker 1: get better, and this was a rough patch. Everybody that
- 27:46Speaker 1: I've ever talked to not everybody, but several people I
- 27:49Speaker 1: talked to, I remember when I was at like year
- 27:51Speaker 1: 10 of marriage, I talked to this woman and they
- 27:52Speaker 1: were at 24 and they were like years of marriage
- 27:54Speaker 1: and they were sexy and fun. And I was like,
- 27:56Speaker 1: oh my God, I aspire to be you. How did
- 28:00Speaker 1: it work? And she was like, it wasn't always good.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Like it wasn't always good. And she didn't get into
- 28:05Speaker 1: the details of what their issue was because every marriage
- 28:07Speaker 1: is different. But like, ugh, you know, like really being
- 28:11Speaker 1: able to like Whatever. But then, yeah, would it be great,
- 28:14Speaker 1: like I said, if everyone could just have, like, a sabbatical, like,
- 28:18Speaker 1: for a year and then get back together? But it
- 28:21Speaker 1: doesn't really work that way.
- 28:22Speaker 2: And you can't erase that sabbatical, what happens in between.
- 28:25Speaker 2: It's really hard to overcome. Like, you had your problems.
- 28:28Speaker 2: Then what happens in between? Like, my husband and I, listen,
- 28:32Speaker 2: we're crazy Italians. We've had really rough patches. But we've
- 28:36Speaker 2: stayed in. Because I'm like, if you leave, then the
- 28:39Speaker 2: door opens. The door shuts.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Yes.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Like it's done. You have to. And I had a
- 28:43Speaker 2: friend that told me someone has to love someone more
- 28:48Speaker 2: in every month. Like that you can love. I have
- 28:52Speaker 2: to love him enough for the both of us while
- 28:55Speaker 2: he's mad. She has to love him.
- 28:59Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 28:59Speaker 2: Like you have to balance it out because no one's perfect.
- 29:03Speaker 2: There's no 50 50. Yeah.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Ever. But, you know, I mean, we also didn't have
- 29:07Speaker 1: cameras in our face for 10 years. So that makes
- 29:09Speaker 1: a huge difference.
- 29:10Speaker 2: And I don't know how you dipping in and out
- 29:12Speaker 2: of it because I couldn't. I don't want to know
- 29:14Speaker 2: him because I want to enjoy it.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I want to get into Real Housewives of New Jersey. OK.
- 29:21Speaker 1: To just tell you what is happening right here. So
- 29:24Speaker 1: it's about to air any day now. The new season.
- 29:27Speaker 1: They're not. Teresa and Melissa never film together. So we've heard.
- 29:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:33Speaker 1: This whole thing is happening with these accounts. Look at me.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Who said something about Louie and then got bought an account?
- 29:44Speaker 1: Tell what happened.
- 29:45Speaker 2: So I said some bad things about Louie last time
- 29:47Speaker 2: I was on the show publicly. Not bad. Just like
- 29:50Speaker 2: joking that he was red. That he was the cause.
- 29:53Speaker 2: I felt like as a husband he should have tried
- 29:57Speaker 2: to make it more peaceful than separate. That's a spouse
- 30:01Speaker 2: should never separate you from your family. You should try
- 30:04Speaker 2: or stay neutral unless they're absolutely horrid people. I said
- 30:08Speaker 2: that on this show shortly thereafter, I had an account
- 30:13Speaker 2: that posed as me that went on a lot of
- 30:16Speaker 2: public accounts and said horrible things about people like for weeks.
- 30:22Speaker 2: And went to Jax and Britney's, some reality post, and
- 30:27Speaker 2: said that I knew for a fact that he was
- 30:31Speaker 2: no longer attracted to her because she gained weight. Odd, right?
- 30:35Speaker 2: Very odd.
- 30:36Speaker 1: I mean, it's very.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Bo Dito follows me. I don't know. Let's ask Bo.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Well, I did a video about bots and people faking,
- 30:44Speaker 1: you know, you can Photoshop something saying someone liked something,
- 30:48Speaker 1: that all this exists. And then it causes all these
- 30:50Speaker 1: problems with people in this business. And you then go,
- 30:55Speaker 1: who is the puppet master that could be stirring all
- 30:58Speaker 1: of this so that people are no longer friends with
- 31:01Speaker 1: each other? That's the ultimate revenge is that you lose,
- 31:04Speaker 1: you know, people that you may have liked or have
- 31:07Speaker 1: people think of you in a poor way. This is
- 31:09Speaker 1: why I said on the show last week, like they have,
- 31:12Speaker 1: we have to be like, they should do what Australia
- 31:14Speaker 1: does with reality stars. And I mean, it's too late
- 31:17Speaker 1: now with these people, but with anybody new, take their,
- 31:22Speaker 1: their Instagram, take over their social media accounts while they're working.
- 31:26Speaker 1: And two months after, and like, don't let them see it.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Don't let them be a part of it. Don't let
- 31:31Speaker 1: all these fans and bots and don't let them hire bots.
- 31:34Speaker 1: And it's like, Oh, like who knows, but it does.
- 31:38Speaker 1: And then to try to, figure out who was really
- 31:41Speaker 1: behind it and who, I mean, remember the whole Diane
- 31:45Speaker 1: Jenkins thing and Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was they
- 31:49Speaker 1: believed that Diane Jenkins hired bots or hired haters or
- 31:53Speaker 1: whatever to go after Garcelle's son. And she, my understanding
- 31:58Speaker 1: is she went so far to hire attorneys to then
- 32:02Speaker 1: file a lawsuit so that Meta would have to show
- 32:05Speaker 1: who bought these bots But she would need Garcelle to
- 32:09Speaker 1: also go on it. And Garcelle's like, no, I don't
- 32:11Speaker 1: want to.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Well, that's weird. Why wouldn't you want to know?
- 32:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd do it.
- 32:14Speaker 1: And of course, Diane Jenkins wants to clear her name
- 32:17Speaker 1: because she's like, I never fucking did this. I had
- 32:19Speaker 1: nothing to get. But it happened right after they had
- 32:22Speaker 1: a little spat on the show.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember.
- 32:24Speaker 1: So everyone's like, oh, it must be Diane Jenkins' account
- 32:28Speaker 1: or her camp. And it was a big storyline and
- 32:32Speaker 1: it said a lot about racism and it said a
- 32:34Speaker 1: lot of awful things. And this boy was the subject
- 32:38Speaker 1: of this cyber bullying. And it's like, what was really
- 32:42Speaker 1: the truth? What you think is the truth is not.
- 32:46Speaker 1: It can be one person that's hiring all these people
- 32:49Speaker 1: and interjecting this stuff. It's very easy to do in
- 32:53Speaker 1: this day's world. And you think that this stuff is
- 32:55Speaker 1: true when it's like, oh my God.
- 32:57Speaker 2: It's usually the one that's pointing the finger. It goes
- 33:00Speaker 2: back to Shakespeare. He doth protest too much. It's the
- 33:03Speaker 2: one that's saying, oh, it's you, it's you, it's you.
- 33:05Speaker 2: It's usually the one that literally is trying to place
- 33:08Speaker 2: the blame elsewhere. It's like a magic trick, you know?
- 33:11Speaker 2: Look over here while I do this over here. And
- 33:14Speaker 2: I think it's all, the problem is, is we're so
- 33:17Speaker 2: far down this rabbit hole with so many of these
- 33:21Speaker 2: fake accounts and stuff. It's just so hard to tell
- 33:23Speaker 2: what's real. You just have to literally like just live
- 33:26Speaker 2: in your light. You have to tell the truth at
- 33:28Speaker 2: all point, hold on your camera and you know who
- 33:31Speaker 2: you are, you know?
- 33:32Speaker 1: I don't know. I love the show. It's sad. It
- 33:36Speaker 1: would be interesting if this ever cracked open and maybe
- 33:39Speaker 1: it wasn't coming from each other and they could get together.
- 33:42Speaker 1: But I say expose it all. Tell the truth. If
- 33:46Speaker 1: you were a blogger that was getting information from a
- 33:48Speaker 1: particular housewife, You know, that was the enemy. Like, just
- 33:51Speaker 1: come clean. Just come clean with it and let us
- 33:55Speaker 1: know the truth because it is really gross and, you know,
- 33:59Speaker 1: and we want to know. We want to know because
- 34:01Speaker 1: we watch and spend hours with these people. We want
- 34:03Speaker 1: to know the truth.
- 34:04Speaker 2: It's horrible, too, that what everybody forgets about this show
- 34:07Speaker 2: more than any of them is there's a real family involved.
- 34:10Speaker 2: That's a real family. That's a real rift where these
- 34:14Speaker 2: cousins aren't hanging out together and those kids were adorable together.
- 34:18Speaker 2: You know, I mean— They'll find their own way because
- 34:21Speaker 2: kids always do find their way back. I don't know
- 34:24Speaker 2: about the sister-in-laws and the brother, but, you know, it's
- 34:29Speaker 2: a tough thing. Plus respect gets into it.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Yeah, the Italian respect.
- 34:32Speaker 2: It's our whole bravado. So it'll be really interesting. You'll
- 34:35Speaker 2: call me while this season airs, I'm sure, because there'll
- 34:38Speaker 2: be a lot of.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Moving on. Kim Kardashian, with all this Kim and Taylor stuff,
- 34:45Speaker 1: she posted a photo with Taylor Swift's frenemy, Karlie Kloss. recently.
- 34:51Speaker 1: And I, I think this, this type of stuff, whether
- 34:56Speaker 1: you're famous or not, is so of today's time of posting,
- 35:02Speaker 1: hanging out with someone that you know is, you know,
- 35:04Speaker 1: your enemy or frenemy or whatever, your enemy's former friend
- 35:09Speaker 1: that you remain friends with. And you're like having a
- 35:12Speaker 1: good time and you put it out there knowing that
- 35:16Speaker 1: Either the person will see it or the fans will somehow,
- 35:18Speaker 1: even if you're no longer following that person, you've blocked them,
- 35:21Speaker 1: the fans will take a photo of it and let
- 35:23Speaker 1: you know that your former two best friends are hanging
- 35:26Speaker 1: out and they know what they're doing.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Yeah, they know what they're doing. I would say that, listen.
- 35:31Speaker 1: And of course she knows what she's doing, but even
- 35:34Speaker 1: for the normies, normies do this.
- 35:36Speaker 2: I would just think that at this stage, Kim, who's
- 35:39Speaker 2: elevated herself, trying to go to law school or did.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Go to law school. I feel like that's over with.
- 35:44Speaker 2: Clearly it is.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Yeah. Clearly.
- 35:49Speaker 2: No busy attorney that I know has time to go
- 35:52Speaker 2: back and forth on Instagram with someone. I also think
- 35:56Speaker 2: that she's really missing the boat as a mother of
- 36:00Speaker 2: girls because her girls are going to go through this.
- 36:04Speaker 2: And all this, not to borrow from Taylor, but it's
- 36:07Speaker 2: bad karma.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:09Speaker 2: And her daughters clearly have a parent that has a
- 36:13Speaker 2: mental issue. I keep tapping on the table because I'm
- 36:17Speaker 2: Italian and I feel like flipping it. We'll get to
- 36:19Speaker 2: Teresa later. But literally, I think that it's just so
- 36:25Speaker 2: like at some point, you know, you know how she
- 36:27Speaker 2: should win. She should totally just soften up and be like,
- 36:31Speaker 2: you know, I did do some bad stuff. I'm sending
- 36:34Speaker 2: all my love, all my I was wrong.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Yeah, but what she has to say, though, is that.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Kanye Forster.
- 36:43Speaker 1: Well, if Kanye Forster or I did edit it or
- 36:46Speaker 1: I wasn't really aware of it, what she would have
- 36:49Speaker 1: to admit to, I think, would be stickier than just
- 36:52Speaker 1: what she's doing.
- 36:53Speaker 2: I don't even think she has to admit. She should
- 36:54Speaker 2: just stop.
- 36:55Speaker 1: But I don't think she should have posed this photo.
- 36:56Speaker 1: I think she should just do what she's doing, say
- 36:59Speaker 1: everything's great, distract people with a new, you know, Skims bra, and, like, just...
- 37:05Speaker 1: But if you're really going to... put this to rest
- 37:09Speaker 1: and be like, hey, this was a shitty thing I
- 37:12Speaker 1: did and why, and here's the juicy scoop behind it.
- 37:15Speaker 1: I didn't know it was edited. I got the edited
- 37:18Speaker 1: version myself. I didn't really remember. We put it out there.
- 37:21Speaker 1: We didn't think it was a big deal. The fact
- 37:23Speaker 1: that she's been thriving for years, I didn't know that
- 37:26Speaker 1: it still affected her. Apparently it did, and that's why
- 37:28Speaker 1: this stuff needs to stop. Like if she did that,
- 37:32Speaker 1: then I think people would actually really gain a lot.
- 37:35Speaker 1: But I think there's a risk in admitting that you
- 37:38Speaker 1: maybe– that you did a premeditated bullying thing. No, there's
- 37:42Speaker 1: no risk in the truth.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Just dead it. Take your lumps and move forward and
- 37:47Speaker 2: you'll gain more. The other thing is, though, is maybe
- 37:50Speaker 2: she's doing this because you have to really understand that
- 37:53Speaker 2: her kid's stepmother is walking around in nylons with her
- 37:56Speaker 2: vagina out.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 37:58Speaker 2: With ace bandages on her feet and, you know, her, like,
- 38:02Speaker 2: we're all watching this.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you what's going on since we're
- 38:06Speaker 1: just talking about it. Let me just jump ahead to
- 38:09Speaker 1: my Kanye stuff.
- 38:12Speaker 2: We're all watching this and And I just don't understand, like,
- 38:15Speaker 2: when we say we want to see something, say something,
- 38:18Speaker 2: this girl never says a word in public. She used
- 38:22Speaker 2: to be a very vocal architect. Articulate.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Yeah, articulate.
- 38:26Speaker 2: She can't speak to her family. Her family's trying to
- 38:28Speaker 2: reach her. It's kind of like, you know, albeit, I'm
- 38:32Speaker 2: not saying it's exactly like it or anything. I'm just
- 38:34Speaker 2: saying that when I watched the R. Kelly documentary- Her
- 38:38Speaker 2: family sounds like those people. Like we used to.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Talk to her. I've gone back and forth. First, I
- 38:42Speaker 1: was like super concerned for her. Okay. And I was like,
- 38:45Speaker 1: where is this girl's family and friends? Then I was like,
- 38:47Speaker 1: maybe she's in on it and maybe she's getting paid
- 38:51Speaker 1: almost to be this You know, maybe she's been convinced like, hey,
- 38:55Speaker 1: this is, you know, what do you call it? The
- 38:57Speaker 1: kind of art that's performance art. And I'm going to
- 39:01Speaker 1: be a part of it. And we're not really a
- 39:03Speaker 1: couple or whatever, but I'm getting paid all this money.
- 39:06Speaker 1: So when I decide to leave, I'm going to have
- 39:08Speaker 1: a couple million in the bank and I can do
- 39:09Speaker 1: my own thing. That's what I'm hoping and praying. But
- 39:12Speaker 1: the longer it goes, the more I'm going back to
- 39:14Speaker 1: my original thought, which is yours, and that she really
- 39:17Speaker 1: is in a brainwashed, weird, sick place. relationship and her
- 39:21Speaker 1: family cannot get to her.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they keep saying. I mean, I understand
- 39:26Speaker 2: that fashion sometimes is wacky.
- 39:29Speaker 4: Okay.
- 39:30Speaker 2: But when you're just randomly on a Tuesday at Chili's
- 39:34Speaker 2: with your whole butt hanging out, you know, it's not
- 39:38Speaker 2: fashion anymore.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Ordering the espresso martini from Sheena and Katie.
- 39:40Speaker 2: You're sitting on the booth and you got to put, right,
- 39:43Speaker 2: with their huge cutout of them at every Chili's so
- 39:47Speaker 2: Brock can repost it.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:49Speaker 2: So it's so great. But, you know, it's just, it's enough.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Then let her say it.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Let her say, this is something we've crafted. Let her
- 39:59Speaker 2: be like Yoko Ono.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I've talked about the ace bandages around the feet, you know,
- 40:05Speaker 1: at Disneyland. And I really think that is what bothers
- 40:08Speaker 1: me more than anything. Because, like, how much your feet
- 40:12Speaker 1: must hurt not to have, like, normal support, right?
- 40:16Speaker 2: How about her breasts at some point?
- 40:19Speaker 1: I know. Those real boobs need a bra.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Yeah, like forever, forever, forever. You're chafed.
- 40:24Speaker 1: You're walking around. I wonder if she could get the
- 40:25Speaker 1: Skims bra with the nips. She's probably dying for it.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I just wonder what she wears in front of North.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Like we see what they put on her. But like
- 40:34Speaker 2: what happens at the house?
- 40:35Speaker 1: I think when they do anything with the kids, she
- 40:38Speaker 1: is not in the nylons.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they put her in the closet. That's
- 40:41Speaker 2: what I think. I think he makes her go sit
- 40:42Speaker 2: in the closet and contemplate life.
- 40:44Speaker 1: Well, this story, the newest story is, I don't know
- 40:48Speaker 1: when this happened, but Kanye jokes about, he was doing
- 40:52Speaker 1: a podcast and he was saying how he joked about
- 40:54Speaker 1: punching a man after an alleged Bianca, his wife's sort
- 40:59Speaker 1: of wife. I don't know if she is. Sexual assault incident.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Okay, wait.
- 41:03Speaker 1: So at the Chateau Marmont, which is where I saw
- 41:06Speaker 1: them the night that I met Brittany, December 16th or
- 41:09Speaker 1: around that date, they were also there. Okay. In a corner.
- 41:13Speaker 1: I did not see what she was wearing and I
- 41:15Speaker 1: did not approach them and I did not talk to them.
- 41:17Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was this night or what.
- 41:19Speaker 1: It wasn't like a crazy busy night.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Was Michelle there from the Valley with that mysterious director
- 41:24Speaker 2: that you have to tell me? Because I know you
- 41:26Speaker 2: know who it is and I've been trying to figure
- 41:27Speaker 2: it out.
- 41:29Speaker 1: Let's get to the Valley in a minute, but I
- 41:31Speaker 1: don't know who that is. I can't.
- 41:33Speaker 2: All right. We'll figure it out.
- 41:33Speaker 1: I think Michael Bay is a better choice than Quentin Tarantino.
- 41:37Speaker 1: That's what people were guessing.
- 41:38Speaker 2: What about Brett Ratner? We'll go later. We'll get it later.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Oh, God. I hope it's not him. You never know. Anyway,
- 41:43Speaker 1: we're going to get back to the Valley in a minute.
- 41:45Speaker 1: But the people at the Chateau Vermont said, yes, this
- 41:49Speaker 1: did happen, that somebody groped her and then he punched her,
- 41:51Speaker 1: but then he actually ended up punching the wrong dude,
- 41:55Speaker 1: a TMZ source said.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Because they were twins, identical twins. And it's a bad
- 42:01Speaker 2: 70s sitcom.
- 42:02Speaker 1: But everybody should take. So she so she he didn't
- 42:05Speaker 1: see it. She went and told him. Somebody groped me.
- 42:08Speaker 1: He went and punched a guy. It was the wrong guy.
- 42:10Speaker 1: But the Chateau Marmont is saying, you know, we believe
- 42:13Speaker 1: that it happened to Bianca and we'll believe women. And
- 42:16Speaker 1: it was very.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Well, you can believe it, but it wasn't him. He
- 42:19Speaker 2: has an identical twin brother that happened to be there
- 42:21Speaker 2: and he punched the wrong twin. That's what happened.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Well, no, for real. That's what happened.
- 42:27Speaker 1: I'm not joking. Oh, wait, that's part of the story?
- 42:28Speaker 2: That's part of the story.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Oh, wait, there were twins there?
- 42:30Speaker 2: There were twins. Oh, I thought you were just joking.
- 42:32Speaker 1: I'm not just joking.
- 42:33Speaker 2: That's what's hysterical about it.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 42:35Speaker 2: This guy came out and goes... I didn't do it.
- 42:38Speaker 2: There's a guy that's a twin and he's the one
- 42:42Speaker 2: that sees that identical twin. And he goes, I got punched.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Maybe my brother did it. Maybe he didn't. But I
- 42:48Speaker 2: did not do it. He goes, he must have punched
- 42:51Speaker 2: the wrong one. So this guy not only threw his
- 42:53Speaker 2: brother under the bus, but he came out and said that.
- 42:57Speaker 1: It's so funny that you bring up twins. I'm going
- 42:59Speaker 1: to bring up my twin story. OK. Eleven sets of twins.
- 43:04Speaker 1: are graduating from the same Pennsylvania high school together. I
- 43:08Speaker 1: don't know that they're all identical, but 11 sets of
- 43:11Speaker 1: twins were all. So they're like, we don't know if
- 43:13Speaker 1: there was something in the water. Of course, you know, IVF,
- 43:16Speaker 1: you have a more likely chance of there, but a
- 43:18Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, have twins naturally. I find.
- 43:23Speaker 1: twin stuff so fascinating. One is that your brother could
- 43:27Speaker 1: be punched by... If you're identical. If you're identical. Also,
- 43:31Speaker 1: if you're identical, you have the same DNA. So someone
- 43:34Speaker 1: could murder somebody and leave their DNA there and they
- 43:38Speaker 1: wouldn't know which twin did it.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 43:40Speaker 1: So you could, you know.
- 43:42Speaker 2: That was a phenomenal Law & Order SVU episode. I
- 43:45Speaker 2: saw this guy didn't know he was separated at birth
- 43:47Speaker 2: from his identical twin and they came and got him
- 43:50Speaker 2: and they were like, you're a rapist, you're... And he's like, no, no, no,
- 43:52Speaker 2: it wasn't me, it wasn't me. And then it turns
- 43:54Speaker 2: out it was his twin brother who was upset because
- 43:56Speaker 2: he had gotten adopted and the kid had grown up
- 43:59Speaker 2: in foster families. Crazy. Wow. I live in Pennsylvania.
- 44:03Speaker 4: Okay.
- 44:04Speaker 2: I can confirm this story. Yes. I don't know about
- 44:07Speaker 2: 11 sets of twins from this place, but I will
- 44:09Speaker 2: tell you that at the small Catholic school that I
- 44:10Speaker 2: sent my son, out of 28 children, there were three
- 44:13Speaker 2: sets of twins.
- 44:14Speaker 4: Really?
- 44:15Speaker 2: Three sets of twins.
- 44:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:17Speaker 1: And were they fraternal or identical or mixed?
- 44:21Speaker 2: The two boys were fraternal. Yeah, the two girls were fraternal.
- 44:27Speaker 2: And the two– there was a boy and a girl.
- 44:29Speaker 1: So those are always fraternal, obviously. Also, I thought this
- 44:32Speaker 1: was really interesting. Identical twin sisters married identical twin brothers.
- 44:38Speaker 1: So genetically, their offspring are not– Cousins, their DNA is sisters.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:49Speaker 2: It's funny you're in this twin. I've been going down
- 44:52Speaker 2: the conjoined twin thing ever since the one got married.
- 44:55Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with the conjoined twin situation.
- 44:58Speaker 2: I mean, ever since... And it was a big week
- 45:01Speaker 2: for conjoined twins a couple weeks ago because the other ones.
- 45:04Speaker 1: Passed.
- 45:04Speaker 2: Passed.
- 45:06Speaker 1: And then those two other ones are killing it on TikTok. Yeah,
- 45:08Speaker 1: they're doing Q & As. Yeah. Because I said... I
- 45:14Speaker 1: don't think there's any other conjoined twins that are walking–
- 45:18Speaker 1: no pun intended, but they can walk– walking together around
- 45:22Speaker 1: the world. And then people are like, no, there are
- 45:24Speaker 1: a few others. Oh, yeah. And so then that's where
- 45:26Speaker 1: that came about. But with this one, I think it's
- 45:32Speaker 1: so great. that they found other identical twins because they're like,
- 45:38Speaker 1: we were best friends. We went to the same college.
- 45:40Speaker 1: These twins went to the same college. I don't know
- 45:43Speaker 1: if they went to a twin convention or what, but
- 45:45Speaker 1: they found each other and they fell in love. And
- 45:48Speaker 1: you want to be really– I think it is really
- 45:53Speaker 1: hard when someone marries– a twin that's that close to
- 45:57Speaker 1: their twin. They want to be really close to their twin,
- 46:01Speaker 1: especially when it's identical. Yeah. And you like shared a
- 46:03Speaker 1: sack and you're the same sex and everything. So it's
- 46:06Speaker 1: so great that they can all be together.
- 46:08Speaker 2: I just hope they all stay together.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:10Speaker 2: That is the problem with it. They have to all
- 46:12Speaker 2: stay together.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Like live in the same house.
- 46:14Speaker 2: Well, I just mean no divorces.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:17Speaker 1: You're right. No divorces.
- 46:19Speaker 2: There's nothing that's going to be amicable. You're never going
- 46:21Speaker 2: to get away from it.
- 46:22Speaker 1: Yes.
- 46:23Speaker 2: It's going to be a horrible thing. It's not– you
- 46:26Speaker 2: can't separate. I'm sure that's brother or sister too regardless
- 46:29Speaker 2: like– I mean without being identical but specifically with them.
- 46:33Speaker 2: I also think that what's amazing with these stories is
- 46:37Speaker 2: that I grew up in Ohio, okay? Twinsburg is where
- 46:41Speaker 2: they have the conferences. Oh, really?
- 46:44Speaker 1: How cute.
- 46:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 46:45Speaker 2: So all these twins from all over the world.
- 46:47Speaker 1: And that's where a lot of them meet and hook up.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Right.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 46:50Speaker 2: It's like the little people convention, right?
- 46:52Speaker 1: What if you're little people identical twins and you married
- 46:55Speaker 1: other little people identical twins?
- 46:57Speaker 2: Stop. You're going to make my brain explode. I literally
- 47:00Speaker 2: will never get off. Between that and bulldog puppies, I'll
- 47:03Speaker 2: never get off. Because, you know, bulldog puppies, when they
- 47:05Speaker 2: go in the water, they just sink because they're so cute.
- 47:07Speaker 2: They can't swim. They just– Oh. It's the cutest thing
- 47:10Speaker 2: because everybody has to go rescue them. But they want
- 47:12Speaker 2: to swim so bad.
- 47:13Speaker 1: My new favorite thing on TikTok– People know that I
- 47:17Speaker 1: love a military homecoming surprise. I'm coming home. And I
- 47:22Speaker 1: also love dog stuff. So somehow TikTok now has turned
- 47:27Speaker 1: me on to– they brought it to me like a gift.
- 47:30Speaker 1: Military dogs in training.
- 47:33Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I can't.
- 47:35Speaker 1: These German shepherds are with these hot guys doing training.
- 47:40Speaker 1: And the dogs even have like blindfolds on for their training.
- 47:44Speaker 1: And the guy with all his muscles is going through
- 47:47Speaker 1: like with machine guns looking for stuff. The dog will
- 47:50Speaker 1: be in between his legs. ahead of him doing this
- 47:54Speaker 1: stuff and talk about the comments that are hilarious because
- 47:56Speaker 1: the comments are like as my dog gets tangled in
- 47:59Speaker 1: its own blanket like what's my dog doing like these
- 48:02Speaker 1: dogs are like helping the world like.
- 48:05Speaker 2: It is so it's put across the carpet oh.
- 48:08Speaker 1: My god it is so amazing because i take pilates
- 48:12Speaker 1: and my private pilates and my girl amanda she has
- 48:15Speaker 1: a little dog who helps he thinks he's helping with
- 48:18Speaker 1: the plot so she's like this is amazing i'm like
- 48:21Speaker 1: Don't underestimate the Pilate dog. That dog gives me instruction.
- 48:25Speaker 1: That dog is looking at me like, you keep going, Heather. No,
- 48:28Speaker 1: but it is so cute. Yes. So, okay. So going back,
- 48:32Speaker 1: you said those bulldogs drown. What else? The twin stuff.
- 48:36Speaker 2: So I always, I don't smoke, but you know, nothing
- 48:39Speaker 2: gets people that do, but I always wanted to take
- 48:42Speaker 2: someone and smoke them out and take them to Twinsburg,
- 48:45Speaker 2: but not tell them. Yeah. That it was a twin convention,
- 48:47Speaker 2: so they would just be I walking around. So confused.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Just freaking out. Like, am I in the twilight zone?
- 48:55Speaker 1: No. Like, did I just see that person walk by
- 48:57Speaker 1: and then this person walk by? Oh, my God.
- 49:00Speaker 2: I love it.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Maybe we could do that. Okay, so then this other
- 49:02Speaker 1: thing that's going on is twin. There's a challenge going
- 49:05Speaker 1: on on social media. about a twin telepathy challenge. They
- 49:10Speaker 1: put twins. I've seen it with two little boy twins
- 49:13Speaker 1: that are like two. And then these girls are, one
- 49:18Speaker 1: has brown hair and one has blood, but I think
- 49:19Speaker 1: they might be identical i don't know you're identical they
- 49:22Speaker 1: said identical and they put them with the door between
- 49:25Speaker 1: them and they say just do these things lift one
- 49:27Speaker 1: foot they both lift the right do a pose they
- 49:30Speaker 1: both go like this think of a number and one
- 49:33Speaker 1: two three they both say six it's crazy.
- 49:37Speaker 2: Maybe they're born on the sixth No, but I mean, no, no.
- 49:40Speaker 1: You got to watch it. It was like.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Okay.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Like out of the 10 questions, eight were identical.
- 49:46Speaker 2: But what good is that?
- 49:47Speaker 1: They could do a dance and they both do the
- 49:49Speaker 1: same dance.
- 49:49Speaker 2: Well, that's great. But what good does that do the world?
- 49:51Speaker 2: It only benefits those two. That's the thing about telepathy.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Like it should figure out how to harness it for
- 49:58Speaker 2: all of us. I like that. But I also think
- 50:00Speaker 2: that if you and I spend enough time together, you
- 50:02Speaker 2: know what we're thinking. Like, I mean, I'm easily readable.
- 50:07Speaker 1: There's times, well, actually, not thinking, but my sister and I,
- 50:13Speaker 1: we went to Cabo for her birthday and we left
- 50:16Speaker 1: this house and to go like, let's go into town.
- 50:19Speaker 1: And we're like at some town. And I say to her,
- 50:23Speaker 1: I go, oh, why did we leave the mansion? And
- 50:26Speaker 1: we started to laugh so hard, like crying, laughing. And
- 50:30Speaker 1: her other girlfriends were like, what? Is so funny. And
- 50:34Speaker 1: then for some reason that just made us laugh more
- 50:36Speaker 1: and more and more because it's like a weird thing
- 50:38Speaker 1: that you have with like a best friend or a
- 50:40Speaker 1: sister and we're not identical. But just like why that
- 50:43Speaker 1: is so weird and funny or like because she was
- 50:45Speaker 1: thinking like the same thing at the same time that
- 50:47Speaker 1: I said it. So it was one of those things. Okay.
- 50:50Speaker 1: Kanye West plans to launch Yeezy Porn.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
- 50:56Speaker 1: And he is getting together with Stormi Daniels' ex-husband to
- 51:02Speaker 1: do this. So his name's Mike Moz, and he was
- 51:08Speaker 1: a producer in the adult film industry, Stormy Daniels' ex-husband. Anyway,
- 51:14Speaker 1: they're having business meetings and all this other stuff to
- 51:18Speaker 1: get it together. But to remind people, Wes' addiction to
- 51:23Speaker 1: pornography became public knowledge when he shared explicit content during
- 51:26Speaker 1: business meetings and allegedly showed explicit photos of Kardashian to employees.
- 51:33Speaker 1: So then he got into his religious stuff. Yeah. Now
- 51:37Speaker 1: he's back saying, I might as well just do porn
- 51:40Speaker 1: and sexual and all this stuff. And they're going to
- 51:42Speaker 1: build their own studio to do it called Yeezy Porn.
- 51:47Speaker 2: Tell me when the last time he put out any
- 51:48Speaker 2: music is. Pete Davidson era, right?
- 51:52Speaker 1: I don't know. Did he? I always feel like there's
- 51:54Speaker 1: new songs and stuff. He showed up at Kylie Jenner's
- 52:00Speaker 1: ex party. boyfriend or father of her no father of
- 52:04Speaker 1: her kids Travis and when when people heard like the
- 52:09Speaker 1: one note from his song and he came out I
- 52:11Speaker 1: mean the place exploded okay so like I think people
- 52:16Speaker 1: love his music they know he's like off his rocker
- 52:20Speaker 1: whatever but now this latest thing I'm just like what
- 52:24Speaker 1: I mean what Kim must hear this and just be
- 52:26Speaker 1: like I don't even know what to do with this
- 52:28Speaker 1: anymore like I you know but.
- 52:31Speaker 2: Let's be honest. It all is part of it. That's
- 52:33Speaker 2: he had fantasized about her when he saw her video. He,
- 52:37Speaker 2: I mean, he said it in his stuff. So that
- 52:39Speaker 2: was all part. This is all part and parcel of
- 52:42Speaker 2: this guy.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 52:43Speaker 2: So, I mean, make your money while you can, but
- 52:45Speaker 2: you know that there's going to be, I would just say.
- 52:49Speaker 1: But why do you have to, you don't have to
- 52:51Speaker 1: make this money. So it's like, why are you doing this?
- 52:53Speaker 1: But that.
- 52:54Speaker 2: It's all coming though. It's all that, whatever it is
- 52:57Speaker 2: that is coming for people who do bad things to people.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Even if you don't, there's going to be allegations and
- 53:05Speaker 2: they're enough to take you down. You can't be in
- 53:08Speaker 2: this industry just jumping in now.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 53:12Speaker 2: The way he is and marching your woman around naked
- 53:15Speaker 2: and stuff like that without there's going to be some
- 53:17Speaker 2: kind of allegations coming. I'm not saying he did anything.
- 53:20Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's going to look bad. And by
- 53:22Speaker 2: the time you extricate yourself from that, I mean, look
- 53:26Speaker 2: who he's already associating himself with, Stormy Daniels.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Well, this is Stormy Daniels X. And by the way,
- 53:32Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Which one? I don't know, but I'm
- 53:35Speaker 1: a fan of Stormy Daniels.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Well, I love anybody.
- 53:38Speaker 1: And I'm excited for her to come on the show.
- 53:39Speaker 1: And I'm a fan in the sense that I read
- 53:42Speaker 1: her book years ago. And then I watched her Peacock documentary. Oh,
- 53:48Speaker 1: I did. And it's very interesting. It's very interesting because
- 53:52Speaker 1: they go– they're filming it and they're not supposed to
- 53:54Speaker 1: be filming it. They're not supposed to be filming anything
- 53:56Speaker 1: because she's going through all the stuff.
- 53:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:00Speaker 1: With being given the money and it coming out and everything.
- 54:03Speaker 1: But someone just said, we'll film it. And if we
- 54:06Speaker 1: get to a place legally that we can share it,
- 54:08Speaker 1: then we'll have it. And if we don't, we don't.
- 54:10Speaker 1: And you see the Avenante guy, Michael Avenante, I always
- 54:15Speaker 1: say his name, the attorney guy, going on TV shows
- 54:20Speaker 1: with her and getting her a book deal to the
- 54:22Speaker 1: point where he screws her over on the book deal.
- 54:24Speaker 1: And she is suspicious of it. And But in the doc,
- 54:29Speaker 1: she marries this guy. And I don't know if this
- 54:32Speaker 1: is the guy. She marries this guy who is a musician.
- 54:35Speaker 1: But then she says, you're the only one I want
- 54:37Speaker 1: to have sex with on camera. So I need you
- 54:42Speaker 1: to be a porn star now. So then he becomes
- 54:44Speaker 1: a porn star. And then all this stuff happens. And
- 54:48Speaker 1: all the Trump stuff happens. And that causes a big
- 54:51Speaker 1: rift in their marriage. But while she's going on tour...
- 54:56Speaker 1: she ends up having an affair with the doc documentary guy.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Oh my God.
- 55:00Speaker 2: I have to watch it.
- 55:02Speaker 1: It's really, it's good. It's good. And, um, so I
- 55:06Speaker 1: have a lot of questions for her. So I reached
- 55:08Speaker 1: out and we're gonna try, you know, um, I think
- 55:11Speaker 1: she's a little busy right now. I think she has to,
- 55:13Speaker 1: I'm sure she is. I think she has to testify.
- 55:15Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with all that,
- 55:17Speaker 1: but I'm like, maybe when after that's done, then she can,
- 55:20Speaker 1: you know, speak freely about what she's been through and,
- 55:24Speaker 1: All of it. So I don't know if this is
- 55:25Speaker 1: the guy who's the father of her kid or if
- 55:27Speaker 1: this is like a previous husband she had.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's what I mean. I'm like they I
- 55:32Speaker 2: just I was friendly with, you know, I lived in
- 55:36Speaker 2: that stripper colony. We've talked about that before.
- 55:38Speaker 1: Well, remind me.
- 55:39Speaker 2: And so I moved into an apartment building that had
- 55:43Speaker 2: seven units. It was myself and a young black attorney.
- 55:47Speaker 2: And we were on the upcoming. The other ones were
- 55:49Speaker 2: strippers in various stages of their career. Yeah. The older
- 55:52Speaker 2: Magda one that used to go to Hemet and dance
- 55:56Speaker 2: on Monday through Wednesday and smoke.
- 55:59Speaker 1: She had the bad nights.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it was out. This was in L.A., obviously. This
- 56:04Speaker 2: was in L.A., and the one who hoarded animals. She
- 56:07Speaker 2: was like a hoarder of animals, so like free-flying birds
- 56:12Speaker 2: and– rabbits and dogs and cats. It was like a
- 56:15Speaker 2: whole menagerie up there, but she was absolutely stunning, beautiful.
- 56:18Speaker 2: And then, you know, they're just, it was an amazing,
- 56:21Speaker 2: the one that was the environmentalist, but had double G breasts.
- 56:26Speaker 2: And like would ride to work in those like golf
- 56:29Speaker 2: carty type electric cars.
- 56:31Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 56:31Speaker 1: Remember those? Jax has one now in the Valley.
- 56:34Speaker 2: They shouldn't be allowed to work right on the streets.
- 56:37Speaker 2: But she would pull over and pick up garbage. She
- 56:39Speaker 2: had one of those little things like prisoners do.
- 56:41Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 56:42Speaker 2: To pick up garbage on her horse. She would leave
- 56:44Speaker 2: for work.
- 56:44Speaker 1: Like community service.
- 56:45Speaker 2: Yeah, she would leave for work. She was so sweet.
- 56:47Speaker 1: Keeping the streets clean before she cleans up. Then she
- 56:51Speaker 1: picks up all the dollars with the same thing. That's
- 56:53Speaker 1: very convenient. This is kind of.
- 56:56Speaker 2: Aw.
- 56:56Speaker 1: Sad and interesting. But Anne Heche, her son, says that
- 57:02Speaker 1: the estate, you know, she was the actress who was,
- 57:06Speaker 1: I don't know, having a psychotic episode or something, speeding,
- 57:10Speaker 1: crashed into a house and died. Caught on fire, right?
- 57:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 57:14Speaker 1: And then died.
- 57:15Speaker 2: And then died.
- 57:15Speaker 1: And a lot of conspiracy theories about that, of why
- 57:18Speaker 1: that may have happened to her. But then they... The
- 57:21Speaker 1: more convincing one is that exactly what I said. She
- 57:24Speaker 1: had a, you know, having a psychotic episode. Her son,
- 57:27Speaker 1: who's only 22, is the one in charge of her estate.
- 57:30Speaker 1: And there's $ 6 million in debt and they cannot cover it.
- 57:36Speaker 1: So basically, he's not really going to have anything. But
- 57:39Speaker 1: what's interesting is that she had a book come out
- 57:42Speaker 1: that I guess was about to come out before she died.
- 57:44Speaker 1: And That has only brought in $ 25, 000 because I guess
- 57:49Speaker 1: people really were not that interested in her book.
- 57:52Speaker 2: That's bizarre. I'll bet you also, too, they didn't put
- 57:54Speaker 2: any press or promotion behind it. Yeah.
- 57:57Speaker 1: It said sales for Hesch's post-Humus memoir called Call Me Anne,
- 58:03Speaker 1: We're Not Strong, and claimed that its total income is
- 58:06Speaker 1: estimated to be less than $ 25, 000. And, yes, that happened
- 58:12Speaker 1: August 5th, 2022.
- 58:13Speaker 2: Well, he should document this. I know it's painful.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Document what?
- 58:19Speaker 2: This whole situation. He should have a documentary about this,
- 58:22Speaker 2: like a series.
- 58:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:24Speaker 2: About this because this is the problem.
- 58:26Speaker 1: About his mom passing or not having any money after
- 58:29Speaker 1: being an actor.
- 58:29Speaker 2: The whole thing.
- 58:30Speaker 3: Right.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Because people assume that when you're on television, like there's
- 58:35Speaker 2: a million times, and I'm not lying, and I'll say
- 58:38Speaker 2: this with all humility, that I'm on television and I'm
- 58:42Speaker 2: probably one of the brokest people on television.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:45Speaker 2: You know?
- 58:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 58:46Speaker 2: COVID killed us. COVID was hard for a lot of people.
- 58:49Speaker 2: It broke their finances. My husband had had a stroke
- 58:53Speaker 2: before then. We had medical bills. So there's a lot
- 58:56Speaker 2: of people assume because you're on TV, they see none
- 58:58Speaker 2: of the expenses. They don't know that the government takes this.
- 59:01Speaker 2: Your agents take that. Your managers take this. It costs
- 59:04Speaker 2: to travel. You do this, that, whatever. You buy something.
- 59:07Speaker 2: So it'd be interesting to hear this story.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Yeah, they said some assets have amounted to $ 110, 000. However,
- 59:13Speaker 1: creditors claim totaling over $ 6 million and the anticipated value
- 59:18Speaker 1: of the combined inventories and appraisals says there's, you know,
- 59:21Speaker 1: they won't be able to pay the debts.
- 59:23Speaker 2: She didn't get an exit package.
- 59:24Speaker 1: So he's going to end up like with nothing.
- 59:26Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking. She didn't get an exit package from... Uh,
- 59:30Speaker 2: Ellen almost said Helen.
- 59:32Speaker 1: I don't think so. They were not married. Um, I
- 59:35Speaker 1: don't think she went for palimony of any kind. Uh,
- 59:38Speaker 1: then after that, they were together so long ago. It
- 59:41Speaker 1: was after that, that she met this 22 year old's father.
- 59:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 59:46Speaker 1: And then, and then had him and then they divorced.
- 59:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 59:50Speaker 1: So that was just a very long time ago that
- 59:53Speaker 1: she was with Ellen.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Um, This is kind of interesting. This Disney character actor
- 59:59Speaker 1: claims she was fired for posting a snow white. So,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: you know, she was in her outfit or whatever. And
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: she was like, hey, you know how like everybody has
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: like every Gen Z person that has a job has
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: to let us know what their day is like. So
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: it's like, hi, follow me for a day in the
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: life of being a nanny for a really rich person
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: who is if they ever see this will probably fire me.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: So I wake up. I separate the grapes. And then
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: I take the little girl to the park and you're like,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: why am I paying you so much money for you
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: to like do TikToks while you're working for me? Same
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: thing with like chefs and all that. Though I like
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: their content, so I don't want them to stop. Disney is, like,
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: we definitely never want to, you know. People have, like,
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Disney characters have, like, died, like, while working. And they, like,
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: go through this thing where they put, like, a black, like,
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: walk around and try to cover it. And, like, don't
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: want to call the ambulance or anything. Yeah. Because they
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: don't want the illusion that, like, Dopey or whatever died. Well,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: and you see that face? Yeah.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: If you're posting, I don't know if that's the one
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: that posted, but let's just pretend that that's her.
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: Let's just pretend that that's the one because I don't know.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: Your little girl sees that. And there are 47 Snow Whites.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: You're not the only Snow White. Right. You can't do
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: every shift seven days a week. There are, I don't
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: know the 47, but there's a bunch of Snow Whites.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: So if my little sweet angel were to see that,
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: I don't have a daughter, but, and that's who she's expecting.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: And then the other one comes out who doesn't look
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: exactly like that. You can't trick all kids. That's so,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: there'll be like, I drove all the way here and
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: that's not Snow White. And then she'll be like, that's
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Snow White's sister.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: That's an.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: Impersonator. You know what I mean?
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Right. That's a good point. I didn't even think of that. Well,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: I mean, I remember my brother-in-law had a restaurant in
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: downtown LA when I was at USC. And, you know,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: there was always, you know, people that were not doing
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: well in life that would like just stumble into the restaurant.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: That was me?
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: Yeah. And you'd have to like push them out, whatever.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: And so they were having a birthday party for one
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: of my nieces or nephews. And this girl walked in
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: and she looked very, you know, cracked out and suspicious.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: And she went into the bathroom and I'm like, you know,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: feeling like Richard Gere in Pretty Woman. Like, what are
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: you doing in there, you know? And so I'm like, oh,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: my God. Like, you know, I'm like, excuse me. Excuse me.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: What are you doing in there? And she was like,
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: I'm Snow White. And she was. She was just getting ready.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: But she really looked bad before she got in her outfit.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: She was hired by my brother.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: That's crazy.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: But this girl, you know, it's so sad that they
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: fired her and everything. And now she's just going to, like,
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: now she went back to college and is working on
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: her degree. And I'm like, oh, is she living in
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: a dorm with seven little men? Like, what is she doing?
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: Can we also say?
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: You can make good OnlyFans out of this, though. Now
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: that you're fired and you can't go there anymore, at
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: least you can be, like, sexy Snow White now because
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: you really were Snow White. And you got fired for
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: posting about it.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Can I just say this? When you work for somebody,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: you have to follow their rules.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Yeah. I just read this.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Article of this 23-year-old who had a ton of tattoos
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: on the face, horns, whatever. Do whatever you want.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Do what you want with yourself.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: I don't care. But when you go– she applied at
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: TJ Maxx. And TJ Maxx– I saw this video. You
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: saw the thing? didn't they just she's.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Giving it thinking the world's gonna be on her side
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: where she was just like yeah i can't believe that
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: what how how hard is it to get a job
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: these days.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: Yeah and then she went for they sent her a
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: very nice thank you you didn't make the next round
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: of interviews she got upset and went there and confronted
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: the manager why didn't you hire me is it because
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: of my tattoos and well maybe it's this attitude yeah
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: this is what we're in the public business we're not
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: like There are people that you have to talk to.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Like that manager didn't do anything but just show up
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: at work that day and you're going to talk to
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: her that way. Imagine a customer that has a problem
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: because she wants to buy the eyeliner and it was
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: already used. Like what is she going to do with it?
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: You can do what you want.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: But I as an employee or as an employer have
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: the right to not hire you. Right. I'm allowed to
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: say this is the aesthetic I want. Right?
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: Or this is the attitude that I want.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: You're going to scare children. Yeah. Well, that's so funny. Okay.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: So this was sort of interesting. So this David Mamet,
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: you know, was at the LA Times, I think book
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: festival thing. Yeah. And he was saying that he does
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: not like the diversity that's been going on in Hollywood. And,
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: but then at the same time, he's like, Then someone's like,
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: what about nepo babies? Because your daughter has gotten all
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: these opportunities. He's like, well, that's totally different. So that
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: was kind of like, listen, you can't have it both ways, dude.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: But his point was like, this has just gotten out
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: of hand. But then think about the nepo baby thing,
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: which that means like your nepotism. So, you know, stars
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: get their opportunity in there. This I came across this
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: girl just wrote an essay and she is Nick Jack
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: Nicholson's daughter.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: That he doesn't really acknowledge publicly. Wow. And it's very interesting.
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: She's an actress. She's going to acting class. She lives
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: in New York. Her name's Tessa Nicholson. Gorin. She's like,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: I did meet, you know, he did provide for them.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: But she also got an article written about her and
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: the average actor who is in class.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: She's like 28. So it's like, I'm just saying, but no, no,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: she's not, she's not boohooing about it. She's saying like,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: as someone who could be a Nepo baby and he
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: has other children that he does acknowledge that she believes
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: have gotten more opportunities than she, um, She really has not,
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: but she's also like for, but also in defense of
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Nepo babies, which is what I've always said. Yes, that
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: door is open to you. And the only person I
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: really saw it happen that was like kind of at
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: my level at one time and then skyrocketed was Tracee
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Ellis Ross.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: So when we were both on, got our first sketch
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: show together.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Lyricist Lounge. But for me to get that I did
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: groundlings and stand up and didn't have any representations for
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: representation for years. She had a video camera in her
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: kitchen and she decided to do a bunch of little
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: funny characters in her kitchen. This is like you're like, well,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: that's not how they're hard, Heather. Well, this is before TikTok.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: So that was kind of a big deal that you
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: had access to a camera and all this stuff.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: And then gave it to her agent as like a
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: funny thing to give to him. And then he was like, oh, wait,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: you're like really funny. Let's try to get you in
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: a sketch show. So then she got on the sketch
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: show with me and she was very good. And then,
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: you know, and then we went out to dinner one
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: night and the creator of Girlfriends happened to be there.
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: And was like, ooh, that's my Joan. She was the
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: lead in that. That's who should be perfect for this.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: And then, of course, she killed it in Girlfriends. She's
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: killed it in everything she's done since. But she did
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: have the articles and stuff written about her as this
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: quirky actress that's now graduated from college and is Diana
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: Ross's daughter.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: But.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: no one keeps giving you parts unless you can do it.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: But yes, did she skip a bunch of steps that
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: I could not skip as far as getting an agent?
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: And I mean, to be able to be represented by
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: William Morris, because your mom picks up the phone or does,
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: or maybe your mom doesn't even have to pick up
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: the phone. Like that is amazing. And so she was
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: saying in that, like, no one should, um, downplay the
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: talent of a Nepo baby. No one's saying that, you know, um,
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Jane Fonda isn't talented. She's clearly very, very talented and
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: has lived a life of many talented roles. But yes,
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: you know, and there's.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: Just no way to there's no way to tell. Look,
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: if I if I'm the the the foreman at the factory.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: And my nephew is applying there.
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: Odds are he's probably going to be treated well. At
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: least he'll get an interview. It'll be up to him
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: if he gets in or– you know what I mean?
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Same with like firemen too.
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: So it is what it is.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: And someone who grows up in a family of firemen
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: also not only knows about the jobs and knows about
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: the risks of the job but also kind of knows
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: the lifestyle of the job. And so they're like– and
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: sometimes the talent is there too.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Look at real estate. Your parents were realtors. You know
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: a little bit more about it.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: It is in your DNA sometimes your interests and your talents.
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: And you have a science brain. You have a math
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: or you have a more literary brain, even if you
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: weren't raised in a home where everyone's a writer or whatever.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: But anyway, with this girl, she said she did get
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: to meet Jack Nicholson. She did see him on occasion,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: but she always felt like... She said it felt like
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: when you go on a date with someone that you
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: know is not interested in you, but you still get
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: through the meal. And he just was never... I always.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: Felt bad for Larry. I love, you know, I love basketball.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: I always loved Larry Bird. And then he went on
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: after he left the Celtics to coach for the Indiana Pacers.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: And apparently he had had a daughter out of wedlock,
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: at least allegedly. And this girl used to sit right
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: behind the bench trying to get him to acknowledge her,
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: the story goes. And she looked like Larry Bird with
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: a wig on. So it really, like, I don't know
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: that you needed a DNA test. Either that or she
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: just had the same exact genetics. Maybe somebody in her family,
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: maybe her mother slept with Larry Bird's cousin and then
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: said it was Larry just because maybe their family genetics
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: are strong. I always do feel sorry for those kids
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: that were the celebrity baby that didn't get the life
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: that some of them got.
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Well, her mom was a waitress that he met. And
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: she said, you know, when she was at her like
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: all-girl private school or whatever her high school was, because
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: he did pay for like a nice education stuff, you know,
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: her mom would show up in the Juicy Couture outfits
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: and they knew, people knew that like, oh, you have
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: the sexy, cute mom that, you know, was able to
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: have a little dalliance with, you know, Jack Nicholson. And,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: but she's like, we both study the same kind of
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: acting and she's into acting and they both have the
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: same kind of sense of humor that she's gathered. She
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: just doesn't have a relationship with him. But he has
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: a relationship with other kids. And, you know, Owen Wilson,
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: I just saw a photo of Owen Wilson. He has
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: three kids, all from different women. And he's seen with
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: his two sons, but he doesn't have anything to do
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: with his daughter, allegedly.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes around. Like, sometimes that stuff happens. There's
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: that singer Brian McKnight who's raising his.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. What's the latest story with that? I just
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: saw him talking about something.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: Yeah, he's married to a woman, and he raised her children. Okay.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: But he doesn't acknowledge apparently his own children, allegedly. And
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: then when he did come out, he said that they
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: were selfish and greedy. Oh. So it was really– listen,
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: family dynamics are messed up. And then when you have
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: the public eye and money about it, and it's just
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: always– there's just– families– that's why I always laugh. Like,
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: God bless Meghan Markle, but what– oh, they were mean
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: to you? Honey, that's in-laws. Like, that's– That's how it works.
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: There are people who have the same exact blood. Those
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: identical twins will probably be fighting in a decade.
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: Like people fight.
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: Hopefully not the conjoined ones because that's hard to get away.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: This is a trend I saw which is very interesting.
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: Beards?
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: No.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: What did you say?
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Beards and guys who look like Chris Bassett?
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: No. But it's– women are asking– well, first it started
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: out with people– someone on the street would go up
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: to women. and say, if you were left alone in
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: the woods all by yourself, would you rather be left
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: with a man that you didn't know or a bear?
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: And predominantly, like every woman said, I guess a bear,
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: you know? And so it's, the point is for like,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: and this has happened with me, with my own husband,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: where he would be like, I just don't understand, you know,
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: these women, like if, if Bill Cosby did that to me.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: The next morning I'd be at the LAPD. And I
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: remember I just said to him one day, I go,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: let me just ask you, when was the last time
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: you were scared ever?
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: Like walking to your car, walking into a store, being
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: a white 6'3 man. Were you maybe 11? Like when
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: was the last time? You were physically scared. Even my
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: sons will be like, you know, we'll be walking and
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: there's someone that looks a little unsavory coming down. I'm like,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: let's cross the street. And my son will be like, oh,
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: my God, Mom, like trying to act like I'm like judgy.
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: And I'm like, first of all, dude, who's 6'2 and
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: like has never worried about anything in your life because
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: you have a very plush life. Let me explain what
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: it's like to be a girl. We are scared every minute,
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: every moment, walking to our car. You have to get
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: in the car, lock the door. So anyway, in saying this.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Especially because we watch and listen to true crime podcasts.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: And I do one. So now I don't trust anybody.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: Right. I know it's true. You think about all the
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: things and you're like, oh, my God, how someone was– oh, yeah,
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: I'll help you. Or believing that someone's like, oh, you
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: know what? Someone just hit the back of your car.
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: Is that your daughter? Yeah. Or did somebody just hit
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: the back of your car? Come out with me, you know,
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: so I can show you what this person just did.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, my God, thank you so much.
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: And then they kidnap you. Anyway, but in this, it's
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: really interesting because in the two videos I saw, the
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: woman is filming her husband. And they have a little daughter.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: And they're like, hey, if– You had to leave little
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: Jennifer in the woods with a man or a bear.
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: Who would it be? And it's really funny because they
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: don't know the challenge. They're just like, well, what do
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: you mean? Who's the man? Well, you don't know the man.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: It's just a stranger man or a bear. And all
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: the men, after thinking about it, are like a bear.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: Maybe she'll just be raised like a cub or something.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: And they're like, don't you think that's sad that you
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: would trust a vicious animal that can be vicious? More
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: than a strange man and then it's like– and that's–
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: and all these men are now realizing in that kind
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: of like, OK, if they didn't get it before, like, oh,
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: now I get what it's like to be a woman
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: because I didn't really get it until you made me
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: put my daughter in that position and having to decide.
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: You have to go with the man. A bear will
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: kill you. You will at least have a chance to
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: live and escape and work through whatever trauma. Well, that's
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: your opinion but a lot of– But I travel by
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: myself all the time. It's petrifying. It's petrifying. You have
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: to fight through fear. That's the one thing I tell, like,
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: women will say things to me all the time, like,
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: how do you do it by yourself? You just got
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: to fight through the fear. You got to always have
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: a plan of what you would do and know that
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: maybe you can't, like, listen, you might get me, right?
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: You might, because I'm old now and I can't, you know.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: But you should try to be prepared for it. Take
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: the iron out of your closet at the hotel and
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: sleep with it next to the bed. So if someone
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: tries to get in your room, do all those things.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: I've never heard that. That's a good one.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Take that towel and roll it up to stick it
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: through the door so they can't. You stick it through
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: that little thing that goes like this and they can't
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: open it. You have to. Now, everybody laughs at me.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: I also look for bed bugs, too. But everybody laughs
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: at me. But how do you think I survive? I
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: fight through the fear. You have to keep moving. Otherwise,
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: you'll never go anywhere.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: You'll never do anything. So those kind of things, yes,
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: maybe the bear would take you in and cuddle. Also,
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: the bear may just rip your jugular out and it'll
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: be over in 36 seconds. The man might be nice.
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: What about the– Also, you have– What if it's your son,
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: my son? Someone else would say– but the man also–
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: Might use and abuse you for years, and that's a
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: lifetime of trauma.
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about your husband, my son?
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: Well, it's a what if we're never going to get.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, not all men are bad. Right.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: But the point is it makes people think. But they
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: said not knowing the man. You don't know the man.
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: This was another thing I saw. Uh-oh. I came across.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: I see a tiny house, and I'm excited. So we
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: can go keep going.
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: No, this was like such a weird story. It popped up.
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: This girl started this whole thing called the Trade Me Project.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: And she was on Ellen. I never followed it. She
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: wrote a book.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: And it was like, I'll trade you for a bobby
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: pin for this. And the whole point was to get
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: to a house. And she got to a house where
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: someone traded her for a house.
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: I don't know how it happened.
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: A boat for a house, yes. And she got the
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: house and she goes, now I'm going to give it
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: to someone who really needs it. So somebody did the trade, whatever.
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: She found this girl who was 19 who had a
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: boyfriend or a husband. And everyone's like, oh, my God.
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: And everyone's loving it because she has this huge following.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: And they all, oh, here's her Amazon wish list. And
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: she shows the video of the girl moving in. Oh,
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: my God. It's a cute little house. And so now
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: she does a follow-up a year and a half later.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: And the girl who gave the house and was like,
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: I need to do a follow-up because apparently the girl
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: that she gave the house to has done a video
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: not so nice to her. So she's like, let me
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: tell you what happened. Through DMs, someone who followed my
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: story is like, hey, I want you to know there's
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: all these Amazon packages that are at the house and
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: they're getting soaked. They're wet. You know, they're going to
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: get wet. No one is taking them in. So she
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: reaches out to the girl that she gave the house
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: to and the girl's like, oh, I'm in North Carolina,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: but I'm coming back. I just had to leave or whatever.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: She's like, OK, well, and she finds some other follower
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: in the neighborhood to go every couple of days, take
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: all the packages and bring it to her garage.
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: OK.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: So then there's all these packages for this girl and
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: she never comes back to the house. And she keeps
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: writing her like, are you going to come back to
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: the house? Oh, I'm trying to get my driver's license
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: and this and all these. And she's showing all the.
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: Like she's getting catfished by a scam artist.
- 1:18:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: But I mean, the girl did move in for a month,
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: but then she didn't come back for 18 months. Finally,
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: the other good Samaritan who's like, I've got all this stuff.
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: That's great. They give it all to Goodwill. They're like,
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: too bad. Like, I can't keep this in my garage.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: I don't hear. Finally, you know, and all the correspondence
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: is very nice. And finally, the girl's like, look, obviously
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: you're going through stuff, but you know, um, and she's
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: paid for a, a gardener and made sure the lawn
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: is clean. Finally, she just goes into the house.
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: And it's disgusting from 18 months ago, the girl spent
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: one month there And he destroyed it in one month.
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Trash everywhere. Trash in the closets and everything. And so
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: people are like, I mean, this girl was on Ellen. Yeah. Oh,
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: my God. All somebody needs is just, you know, a
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: beautiful chance. And it's so unfortunate because you don't want
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: to lose hope in the humanity of the people that
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: do get an incredible gift like this and really do
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: cherish it and really do take great care of it.
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: But it's so unfortunate. discerning to hear that. And the
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: girl's crying and she and her husband or boyfriend clean
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: it up for 24 hours and put it together. And
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: now they're going to, you know, find someone else who
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: can enjoy it. But like, my God.
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: The problem with those things are is that you just,
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: people don't understand their blessing sometimes when they're standing in
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: the middle of it. Yeah. Has anyone ever given you
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: a house?
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: Yeah. No. Everyone's like, my God, the people that would
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: just die for this.
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: No one ever gave me a she shed.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: I don't know how, why she picked it. a 19-year-old
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: or how it worked with the trading. Because I'm like,
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: I would have picked a single mom that was on
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: a list for subsidized housing or whatever. And like, okay,
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: so I don't know. But I guess it had to
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: work with the trading. But anyway, that was kind of interesting.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Did you know that Ryan Seacrest had a girlfriend for
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: three years and they broke up?
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: No, and I don't care. Moving on.
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: Did you know that Glenn Powell... And Sidney Sweeney, I'm
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: kind of shocked. They did this movie, Anybody But You. Yes.
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: And it did pretty well as like a fresh romantic comedy.
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: And I thought they also were in love and fell
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: in love on set. They're now coming out saying, no,
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: that was all a publicity ploy. They were never a couple.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: I love that they're telling the truth, but I'm like.
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: I love it, but I hate it. I mean, it's
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: your truth to tell, and that's great. But like, let
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: us believe it. I mean, at this point, I need
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: something sweet. I want to know that Zendaya is still
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: with Tom Holland. But then I guess they.
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: Would have to have like a fake breakup or something.
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: And so they were just like, oh, it was just
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: all publicity ploy.
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: No, you just have to never confirm it, really. You
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: know what I mean? You can have dalliances. You can
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: have all those little things.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: Oh, here's my new merch, by the way. Sorry my
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: happiness triggered you.
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: You can get that at HeatherMcDonald.net.
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: Lean into it. You should turn that over and it
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: should be my face because I always have your back.
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: I know. You really always do. Okay. Well, tell everybody
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: where they can follow you again and go see your shows.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: Pescatelli.com and then The Cop and the Comedian. That comes out.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: Such a juicy podcast. So fun. Thank you. Thank you, Tammy.
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: You're a delight.
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: Thank you. You are too.
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