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We talk MLB Winter Meetings with Washington Nationals play-by-play broadcaster Charlie Slowes! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  All right, Jabba, we got Charlie in.
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  We're going to talk some baseball with him, but you've
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  got something important to go into.
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  We've got Jabba rules. Jabba rules rules.
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  Like the streaks in my britches. I've always like the job rules
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  now. And it's so awesome that you
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  brought Charlie in for this because this was one of those,
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  one of those rules where I, I wanted to get into it.
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  And obviously now having Charlie on is, is huge.
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  But winter meetings are very anti climactic for me this year.
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  And we knew. We kind of knew.
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  What was what? Was going to happen in the names
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  that we saw, but there wasn't. There wasn't anything that like
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  struck me where it was surprising or anything or any
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  team did anything. And I don't know if that's
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  because they're, they're looking at what's going to happen with
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  the CBA or they're, they're looking at that and as far as
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  like certain things that are happening in the game and
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  evolving. But for me, it was like the
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  winter meetings were it, it didn't do much for me.
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  I usually get excited around this time, like being a part of
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  it and doing it and understanding like kind of what
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  they do. And like the back end that we
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  don't see when, you know, guys are sliding in the back door
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  and, and, and having meetings with, with the owners and the
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  presidents and all the other stuff.
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  But this year just didn't really do anything for me.
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  And we got basically what, 3 big signings, kind of maybe Edwin to
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  the Dodgers was a little bit surprising, but we didn't have a
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  Tucker. We didn't have anybody else that
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  we, we thought might happen. And so for me, what didn't rule
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  in winter meetings was the winter meetings.
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  I, I, I think it was, it was very mundane and very boring.
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  And Charlie, do you think the CBA like is, is it affecting
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  this is as far as like all the things that are happening or, or
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  or am I overthinking it? Well, you, you triggered
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  something that I read today trying to think it was
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  attributed to, but it was just kind of a group thing.
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  And it's going to be back on with you guys, by the way, that
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  the winter meetings used to be a bigger deal before social media
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  and texting became such a big thing because it was when people
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  got in front of each other. And actually now it's just like
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  a shake of a hand. And you know, but it's not like
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  they don't see each other, talk to each other because they're
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  texting even while they're at the winter meetings where it
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  used to be like face to face made something happen.
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  Now it's, I basically heard one GM wasn't quoted saying we could
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  not have the winter meetings and the same things would take place
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  that took place. Maybe you wouldn't have had Pete
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  Alonso drive from Tampa to Orlando to meet with Orioles
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  people and seal the deal if there weren't a winter meetings
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  and he was driving an hour and a half from his home in the Tampa
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  area to Orlando to do this. But they said, you know, they're
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  saying, really deals are going to happen after the winter
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  meetings are over because everybody is texting all the
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  time and talking all the time. And so it isn't the like this
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  big thing where you get everyone together and something huge is
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  going to happen at that moment. And that's maybe what makes it
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  different than what it used to be.
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  You know. We can blame it again on texting
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  and social media. You know what's so funny?
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  And I want to, I want to get into the New York Mets because
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  we had our own take to it, Charlie.
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  And there's a lot going on with the New York Mets over here.
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  A lot of fans want to just completely drop the hammer on
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  David Stearns and Steve Cohen. Your thoughts on the New York
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  Mets in this absolute debacle? What you know, I can see, you
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  know, they send Brandon, MO to a big deal and maybe they thought
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  that it was going to project out the way they had hoped to think.
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  They saw a way to get out of the length of that deal even by
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  Marcus Simeon, an older player who's making more money in the
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  short term. They lost Edwin Diaz over $3
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  million over the course of that deal.
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  So basically, it didn't come down to money for Edwin Diaz.
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  If if $3,000,000 at that point wasn't going to make a
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  difference. If he still wanted to be a Met,
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  they could have matched that deal or he could have taken that
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  deal if he really wanted to be with the Mets.
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  But then, you know, after you've lost him and you're coming down
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  to Pete Alonso and you figure Alonso was pissed the way things
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  went last year, right? He got a two year deal with an
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  out after one year to become a free agent again and that they
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  told him they weren't going to go more than three years.
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  So sure, if you're him, you're coming off another great year
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  production wise. You're the all time Mets home
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  run leader. Why wouldn't you see if
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  somebody's going to give you 4 or five years and then they
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  weren't even involved in it after that point, which OK,
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  there's a long way to go in the offseason, but where is there
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  another player who's going to produce what Pete Alonso does
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  offensively? Are you, if you get Cody
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  Ballinger, seems like he wants to be back with the Yankees if
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  they make the right deal, you're not getting Bellinger.
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  So who else is going to produce and provide those kind of
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  numbers right now with the line? If they have, OK, put Mark
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  Vientos in it first or maybe you get William Contreras.
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  Come on. Contreras is not Pete Alonso
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  offensive now, Not even close. So I don't know where they come
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  up with those numbers, but unless you have a presence
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  behind Juan Soto, good luck paying them all that money to
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  walk 150 times. That's what's going to happen.
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  Charlie, I got an idea because I've been hearing that
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  Philadelphia just gave Schwaber a lot of money, Well, enough
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  money. I wouldn't say a lot of money,
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  but a fair, a fair contract, $30 million that you're hearing that
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  Bryce Harper could be available. Do the Mets trade for Bryce
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  Harper and move him to first base.
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  That gives you that solidify. I don't know if it's it's Pete
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  Alonzo power numbers, but it gives you that power in the
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  lineup. And and by the way, Juan Soto
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  and him are very close. So maybe something like that.
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  Do you see that happening? They say there's no chance in
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  the world. Dave Browse Dave Dombrowski is
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  trading Bryce Harper to the Mets.
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  There is nothing that they will get back the the Phillies.
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  The Phillies are still in in that by giving Schwarber the
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  money. And last year, you know, they
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  they locked up their starting pitching and, you know, maybe
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  they might lose one of their starters this year.
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  If they do anything else, they're going to get another
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  starting pitcher to solidify the rotation.
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  But the Phillies to me, are still on the cusp of a team that
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  that's a World Series contender. They're in the at the age of
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  their players, especially if they signed Rio, Rio Muto,
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  they're in win now mode again. Charlie, what do you what do you
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  think too on, on that? Sorry to cut you off, but what
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  do you think too like obviously with Preston being in the front
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  office with the Phillies, what do you think adding Donnie
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  Baseball to to that? And I had the fortunate
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  pleasure, obviously, to to be with Topper and and Kevin Long
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  and those guys. What do you think he adds to
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  that dynamic of of the clubhouse and and on the bench?
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  He's Donnie Baseball, you know, everybody wants.
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  By the way, that Air Committee missed, missed on it missed.
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  But, but I mean, Bryce Hopper is a student of the game, the
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  history of the game. He's one of the most
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  knowledgeable players about baseball and sports in general.
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  He'll tell you the third string long snapper is on Division 3
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  football teams. This guy's locked in on
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  everything. So believe me, whatever
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  knowledge that he can pull out of Don Matley that can help him
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  or help his team win, he's going to do and he's going to want
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  everybody else to be part of that also.
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  And, you know, you have their manager who was part of that
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  group also in New York, I mean, so well and you know.
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  What people don't understand about what Topper did, Topper
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  ran everything. He literally spring training.
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  He was there at 4:30 shaving his beard.
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  He shaves every day. He was there running everything
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  like Thomas ran everything and he's unbelievable.
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  I don't think he gets it. It took him so many years in
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  people that know the game as you've been around it.
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  Thomas went from every level of everything that he did and he
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  was very well deserving. The only other person that I
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  have come encounter with that should be a manager that hasn't
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  is Sandy Elmar. How is?
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  Sandy Almar Junior, how is that? How is that not happening?
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  How is that not happening at the same time, at the same time this
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  year? I want to ask you this, too.
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  We're we're in New York playing the Yankees, the Nationals in
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  late August. And Willie Randolph's walking
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  around behind the cage, right? He's he's, he's like, I didn't
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  even get to it, right? I didn't even get to it.
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  And I what I wanted to ask Willie because I became close
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  with Lou Pinella when he managed in Tampa Bay.
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  And I was there calling their games.
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  And, you know, these are to me, Lou's royalty, right?
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  Lou Pinella. And you know, he went through a
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  lot with prostate cancer and, you know, his body took a toll.
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  And when you see Lou, he he looks every bit of 81 years old
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  now. He does He doesn't look like the
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  Lou you remember. But I said to Willie, how did
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  Lou look on your stomach? Yankees old timer say.
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  And he goes, you know, he kind of like rallied and like come
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  back. And it was like the Lou you
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  knew. And I'm thinking as I'm talking
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  to him and I said to will, I said, Willie, how are you not
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  working in bed? How are you not teaching
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  baseball to somebody? And he said, you know, for the
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  life of me, I can't figure it out.
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  And, and he told me Yankees people don't want him talking to
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  the players about the game. He's a club ambassador,
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  represents them, but they don't want him to be teaching the
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  game. And I'm like, wow, wow.
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  I, I know he managed the Mets and they had that epic collapse,
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  17 games left, seven game lead and they don't win.
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  But how does that guy not have something that that he can give
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  to young players with the with the era and the era and the
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  teams that he played on? But it just takes me to what you
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  what you, what we were talking about to begin with in in this
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  conversation, Don Magley, Willie Randolph, those guys are
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  baseball royalty. They should have always have a
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  place in the game, you know, And that being said, everybody's
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  moving towards hiring guys who worked at Driveline.
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  Baseball, I knew I knew exactly where you're going to go with
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  this and I know Speedy has something to say because he.
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  The team, the team I work for now, when I go to spring
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  training, I will not know a single.
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  Let's say I've been with the Nationals for 21 years.
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  I was with Tampa Bay for seven. I did fill insurance for several
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  years for the Orioles and the Mets.
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  I literally will not know one person other than Sean Doolittle
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  coming back who will be on the coaching staff, the big league
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  staff, and that's maybe never happened before.
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  John, but a part of perspective. So CC and I were talking about
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  this last week. Literally the average age of the
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  Nationals coaching staff is going to what'd you say about 31
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  or something like that? 11 coach who's 51, who's in his
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  40s, who's who's been in the big leagues, is a big league
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  catching coach. But you know, other than
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  Doolittle, none of the others have ever coached at the Major
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  League level. Yeah, neither is the manager.
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  So it doesn't mean it doesn't mean you won't have success, but
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  it's just you're you're going to a different era where this was
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  interesting a couple of years ago, a guy was with when the
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  Nationals started in 2005, Brad Wilkerson was an outfielder who
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  came with them from Montreal when the team moved.
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  And he was the assistant hitting coach for the Yankees.
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  And he told me he could see video of everything that was
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  being worked on with players at every level of the farm system.
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  And the guys who were in the cage with the hitters were video
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  guys. They weren't, they weren't they
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  were the ones who the coaches, but they were video guys that
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  weren't guys who played baseball necessarily.
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  And so it kind of it kind of is a mind blow, but you know, all
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  of it now is these guys who can look at a player, determine what
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  their swing path is, what pitches they're supposed to
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  swing at to have the best success.
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  And that's got to be their approach.
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  So, you know, maybe this started with Tampa Bay where they were
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  making out line UPS based on who the pitcher is.
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  Well, if this guy's a fastball pitcher, these guys are going to
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  play. If this guy's an off speed
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  pitcher, these guys are going to play.
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  And the guys who hit fastballs won't play.
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  You know, and, and I guess it's a way to get around not having a
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  lineup of eight guys who can just freaking hit anybody.
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  You know, that's how you're trying to maximize success now.
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  And the same story with pitchers.
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  You know, we're going to put all these cameras up and determine
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  your, your, your best pitch is all that.
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  Other stuff. Your, your, your angles, your
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  tilt, your spin, you know, Then you listen to the Doctor Who's
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  doing all of the Tommy John surgeries with the with the
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  internal brace, saying all this may not be the best way to go
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  because guys are just trying to maximize every pitch for as long
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  as they can until they blow out. That's that's the thing, Charlie
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  too, where like I, I look at it too.
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  And, and as, as you referenced the guys that we've talked
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  about, we don't have enough baseball dudes in front offices
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  like we see like obviously now Cy in Texas, what do you do?
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  He ended up going to win. Buster's doing a lot of really
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  cool things. What did Cy do at Texas?
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  He brought in Bochy. What they do, they won a World
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  Series, right? Right away.
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  What's Buster going to do? Like they're going to bring
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  baseball guys in. And it's why, why do these minds
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  that we have that should be at the pinnacle and leading an
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  organization or leading A-Team, but when we're relying on
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  freaking dudes that are literally an MIT grad that looks
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  at numbers and be like, this guy's going to be great.
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  Well, no, put eyes on the prize, right?
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  Like. It's it's Stratomatic baseball.
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  And it's it's frustrating as old.
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  I'm a old school baseball guy. I'm a Advil long toss and run
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  that that's what I do. And I teach kids and my son's a
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  sophomore in college. What we do is we play long toss.
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  We do these things and do I look at certain things and I have to
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  adjust to because I know the game is changing and it and it
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  is changing in in certain ways do it.
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  But do I think, and we've talked about this plenty of times on
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  the show, There is there is a place for those things.
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  But when we have great minds that are in the game that we all
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  know and that we see, why are they not put in a position to be
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  able to take care of a team and and do it in the baseball sense?
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  Not in the analytical sense, in the baseball sense, because
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  we've seen now where it's changed.
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  And I think, and Ariel will say the same thing, like he hates
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  the Dodgers because of what they're doing.
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  But also if I'm a player, they're spending the money and
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  giving me, I want to go play with those guys.
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  But if I have somebody else in what?
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  We're asking right now. Yes, he has a great example
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  because talked about his brother who had success in Cincinnati
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  and then fell off and then they he ends up in in LA even though
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  he wasn't there long. He told his brother what it was
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  like there and how they treat everybody.
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  And so if if Edwin Diaz felt his path to win was with the Mets,
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  would $3,000,000 at that point make that much difference to
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  him? OK.
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  But Charlie, at the same time what we're talking about.
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  Who, who? Who?
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  Is in that dugout every day. Who is he?
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  Dave Roberts, a player gets it, understands it.
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  And why do they do these things? And you see the success of these
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  coaches that have played the game and put guys in situations
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  to where it's like, hey, I can I can see these things.
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  And I know the numbers may not tell me what's actually going to
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  happen, or it may tell me what's going to happen.
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  But I'm watching the game. I'm watching the game and that's
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  what they do. Like we seen it.
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  Like one of the most prime examples I think about is you.
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  You brought up Tampa, right? Look at Snow when they took a
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  while. He's facing the line for the
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  third time. What happened?
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  They end up freaking losing a World Series because of their
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  analytical aspect, not you watching the damn game.
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  Right. That night he was lights out and
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  you made a decision based on it, everything that happened in his
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  career up until then. But you didn't trust that night
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  that he could go further. And the other part of it was
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  once you went to the bullpen and you're in Game 7, they're
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  bringing in the same, no offense to relievers, but they're
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  bringing in the same relievers who pitched in every game of the
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  series, who were probably a little bit gassed at that point.
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  But it's not a different look anymore to the hitter cuz
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  they've seen. Them all, the more they see us
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  at that point, the more they see us.
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  It's like you, you already know that what my sequences are you,
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  you know these things. And we switched that up and and
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  that's why we're trying to play chess and not checkers.
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  Charlie's team in the in the nationals, well, they won.
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  They were bringing starters out of the pen and kind of defying
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  those obviously bullpen's. Got shakiness.
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  We didn't. We didn't have enough people in
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  the bullpen. Yeah, our bullpen was was not
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  very good. You had basically you had
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  Doolittle and Hudson. So I mean, that wasn't something
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  that wasn't done before where teams would put starters.
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  It wasn't a time in the postseason.
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  But we we did it a lot that postseason.
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  We did it with Scherzer. We did it with Strasburg, which
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  helped the Nationals win the Wild Card game.
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  Patrick Corbin, those are the best 3 innings he had in six
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  years with the Nationals. And he was only supposed to
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  pitch 1 inning, 1 inning, the 6th inning after Scherzer
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  pitched the first five in Game 7.
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  And Scherzer was the one saying leave them in, leave them in.
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  We don't have enough to get to Doolittle and Hudson.
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  He ended up pitching 3 innings, lights out, nobody got on base.
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  And then they turned the game around against the Astros who
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  took their starter out after he gave up.
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  He was pitching shut out ball, gives up a solo home run, they
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  take him out and the Nationals hit two home runs and turn the
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  game around and score 602 runs. So I mean, frankly, it was
• 22:47
  lights out, but they didn't trust him to go deeper into the
• 22:51
  game. Same thing.
• 22:53
  We've talked about this too, and Ariel L will chime in because I
• 22:56
  know as soon as I say this exactly what he's going to say.
• 22:59
  But when we were winning stick, Michael was in our front office
• 23:04
  and I know who you're going to say that did other things.
• 23:07
  They're all I know what you're going to say.
• 23:10
  But you got a baseball dude that came his way to Trenton, NJ to
• 23:16
  watch me pitch and be like, this kid can help us in the big
• 23:18
  leagues. It wasn't like, oh, he's doing
• 23:21
  this, he's doing that. And other guys that helped the
• 23:24
  team. He's like, I have to like, and
• 23:26
  he even told me this and God rest his soul, he was like, I
• 23:30
  have to, I have to see it. I want to see it like you can
• 23:34
  tell me how good he is in his numbers, but if I don't see it
• 23:38
  and it ain't there, that's not going to be what we want.
• 23:44
  And we I don't I don't think we have enough of that like because
• 23:48
  it it starts so young now where everything is exit below it's
• 23:53
  spin rate. It's all this other stuff.
• 23:55
  But let's put an eye on a prize. You, you look at so many guys
• 23:59
  that have played this game where if you would have put them on a
• 24:03
  track man or rap Sato or whatever it is and they had
• 24:07
  those, you wouldn't have spent 2 seconds on them.
• 24:14
  But they're gamers. Dustin Pedroia, perfect example.
• 24:18
  And there's way more. Billy too small, too small,
• 24:25
  they're not good enough. They're not big enough.
• 24:29
  Goes wins a rookie a year in the MVP like he's a gamer, Charlie.
• 24:35
  And if you came to. Your eyes on a prize.
• 24:37
  Charlie, you mentioned Willie where where Willie Randolph and
• 24:41
  you're saying that Willie Randolph obviously the Yankees
• 24:44
  aren't letting him work with the younger guys.
• 24:46
  And, and we've seen this Andy Pettitte for years.
• 24:48
  He used to go to spring training.
• 24:50
  All of them usually go to spring training and work with the
• 24:53
  younger kids. And you have Reggie Jackson, who
• 24:55
  I think the Yankees did him wrong and that's why he went to
• 24:59
  the Astros. And that's.
• 25:00
  Why he no, he'd burn his own bridge.
• 25:02
  Well, I'm sure I, I don't know, you probably know more than I
• 25:04
  do, but I, I think that obviously Reggie Jackson is a
• 25:09
  guy that I've always liked. I've always respected his game
• 25:12
  and, and what he's all about. I checked out his Reggie
• 25:15
  documentary, by the way. It's sensational pride put a put
• 25:19
  a really good product out there. And I haven't even checked out
• 25:21
  Alex Rodriguez documentary, which I heard is really, really
• 25:24
  good too. So one of these days I'm going
• 25:26
  to get to that Charlie Jabba's talking about obviously the game
• 25:31
  and how a lot of these ex players, the guys that know the
• 25:34
  game very, very well, why aren't they put in the position to
• 25:37
  succeed from the guys that don't know the game?
• 25:40
  Is there a particular organization right now besides
• 25:43
  the teams that we bring up, Tampa being one of them that
• 25:46
  have been very well known to develop players?
• 25:49
  Is there a particular organization that you have
• 25:52
  watched grow players in the farm system that you believe has
• 25:57
  really transitioned the game and helped the game grow over the
• 26:00
  last couple of years? Is there a particular
• 26:02
  organization that you like out of all the rest?
• 26:06
  I think, you know, Atlanta has always been good at homegrown
• 26:11
  players coming up through their system, maybe not as much in
• 26:14
  recent years. They've always been able to
• 26:16
  identify players in the Atlanta area and have scouted and
• 26:20
  drafted them and developed them to get to the big league level.
• 26:25
  You know, the Dodgers maybe not as much in recent years.
• 26:28
  A lot of their prospects, they used to trade, but again, you
• 26:35
  developed a Will Smith. They have the money now to go
• 26:39
  out and still sign whoever they want.
• 26:41
  So they haven't developed as many.
• 26:43
  You've got their center fielders come through the organization.
• 26:46
  You know, I, I, I think, you know, more teams that don't have
• 26:52
  the financial resources are focused on trying to develop
• 26:56
  players and get them to the big leagues through their farm
• 26:59
  system. So what, what you know, it's,
• 27:01
  it's not that, it's not that what you find out is it's not
• 27:05
  that easy. It's not that easy.
• 27:08
  And so that's why you have these organizations trying different
• 27:13
  types of ways to develop players and bring in these people who
• 27:17
  think they're going to accelerate development and
• 27:23
  establish a culture and a way to go about it at the.
• 27:25
  Same time you say these owners, all of them are billionaires.
• 27:31
  They, they can do whatever the heck they want.
• 27:36
  And it's do you want to put a product on the field that puts
• 27:41
  butts in seats or do we want to win?
• 27:46
  And they, I think they go hand in hand, right?
• 27:49
  Because if you, if you don't have those dudes that kids want
• 27:54
  to buy their jerseys and do all those things where we always, we
• 27:59
  always talk about certain things of like, oh, they don't want to
• 28:02
  spend like the end of the day. We call baseball in our in, in
• 28:07
  the club. It's a billionaire's board game.
• 28:09
  Do you want to get, do you want to get Atlantic?
• 28:12
  Do you want to buy a railroad? It's a club.
• 28:17
  It's it's, it's their monopoly board like you're saying.
• 28:21
  So and and we talked about this the last time I was on, which
• 28:26
  goes to what just happened yesterday.
• 28:30
  Did the Orioles just find a way to sell some tickets 1000% right
• 28:35
  by signing Pete Alonso for five years?
• 28:38
  Because now fans are going, OK, you sign Helsley.
• 28:44
  If, you know, you just sign Alonso.
• 28:47
  If we get another starting pitcher here and all those young
• 28:50
  players who didn't have great years rebound, the Orioles have
• 28:54
  a chance to contend for the division in the AL ES now.
• 28:58
  Right away, right away. If if their pitching's better,
• 29:02
  they have a closer of Helsley. You know, it's true that he was
• 29:05
  tipping pitches and figured that out.
• 29:07
  That's why he was unsuccessful with the Mets.
• 29:10
  And he he turns that around right away and he's the pitcher
• 29:13
  he was in Saint Louis. And maybe they add a starting
• 29:16
  pitcher to the mix. They're right there.
• 29:18
  They might be as good as better than the Yankees.
• 29:21
  And you know, depending what Toronto does that, you know,
• 29:24
  Toronto's probably still, you know, contends for the division.
• 29:27
  But the Orioles step, the Orioles step in a step up in a
• 29:32
  way, Alonso. And that's what he that's what
• 29:35
  excites a fan base. I don't like I don't like the
• 29:38
  Orioles making that move for Pete Alonso for one reason.
• 29:41
  And if you look at Peter, Pete Alonso's numbers in in the
• 29:45
  American League East, it's not very good.
• 29:47
  And, and now you're coming, you're coming into a division
• 29:50
  where you're going to have to compete with the Yankees 15
• 29:52
  games a year. You got to play the Red Sox, the
• 29:55
  the Rays and the Blue Jays and you're an Oreos team that kind
• 29:59
  of underperformed last year. So there's a lot of pressure on
• 30:03
  the Orioles this year if if the the Orioles do not produce, are
• 30:06
  they going to be able to keep the younger players?
• 30:08
  You have all these great younger players and you have all these
• 30:11
  great draft classes that you've had over the years.
• 30:13
  You traded away your best pitching prospect for for what?
• 30:18
  I mean, a lot of things that the Orioles have done this offseason
• 30:21
  have you shaking your head and and and you're bringing Pete
• 30:24
  Alonzo because the Mets are just foolish organization that let
• 30:28
  their best power hitter go so. Now, you know, I, Grayson
• 30:32
  Rodriguez A-Team always knows the medicals on their player
• 30:38
  better than anybody who's going to acquire them.
• 30:41
  So there's something they that they are afraid of if they
• 30:44
  traded him at this point when he was one of their top pitching
• 30:47
  prospects and, and. Charlie, what I, what I heard
• 30:50
  too in to piggyback kind of what you're saying is from the guy
• 30:56
  that I talked to, they both were like, we've seen all and, and
• 31:01
  they kind of just gave up on him because they're like, well, it,
• 31:04
  we couldn't figure it out. We couldn't do anything and they
• 31:06
  just were like, well, if it works, it works, but obviously
• 31:10
  it didn't work there. So he literally is like just a
• 31:15
  fish out of water at that point and they're like, well, what are
• 31:19
  we going to get for him? And did they get anything for
• 31:22
  him? Not really, but they just kind
• 31:25
  of gave up on him And, and I know that does happen.
• 31:28
  I, I, I get that because of, you know, injuries and, and stuff
• 31:31
  like that, but if he goes out and does anything, they didn't
• 31:35
  get anything back for him. He got he got a left fielder,
• 31:39
  right-handed hitter who produces some power.
• 31:42
  So they needed it. They.
• 31:43
  Need and he's an everyday player.
• 31:45
  Right in in left field. So there's there's value in
• 31:48
  that. If they had another starting
• 31:50
  pitcher, Rogers, who was a disaster when they traded for
• 31:53
  him from Miami and gave up a couple of really good players,
• 31:56
  it's look what happened with Stowers in Miami.
• 31:59
  But then Rogers was great the second-half of last year when he
• 32:03
  came back from the injury. So again, those he wasn't
• 32:07
  pitching in the pressure of a Pennant race.
• 32:09
  So let's let's see what he is Trevor Rogers out of the gate
• 32:13
  this coming year. But but you know, when you talk
• 32:17
  about every owner is a billionaire in a billionaire's
• 32:21
  club, you know, it goes back to, you know, when I talked about
• 32:26
  San Diego, when they moved into that ballpark, they didn't sell
• 32:29
  out there a team that drew 1520 thousand fans a game there.
• 32:34
  And now they're number 2IN attendance in the major leagues
• 32:36
  to the Dodgers ahead of the Yankees.
• 32:38
  Saint Louis used to be at the top, fell off in a big way, and
• 32:42
  that's because they have superstars in their lineup.
• 32:45
  That's what sells tickets. Whether you win a championship,
• 32:47
  when you get to the postseason or not, you've put yourself in
• 32:51
  that position to get there. But you're a team that's making
• 32:54
  money because you're drawing. And so it's hard for me to
• 32:59
  comprehend if you you own a team, if you take revenue
• 33:04
  sharing and that's enough for you to make a profit with TV
• 33:08
  money and everything else. But you're not putting people in
• 33:11
  the stands. If you try to win and you sign
• 33:16
  players, your value of your franchise only goes up if and
• 33:20
  when the time comes, you're ready to sell.
• 33:22
  That's what it's all about. So let me, so let me ask you
• 33:25
  this from from your perspective, if, if you understand like
• 33:29
  what's in the clubhouse, like what, what's going on, You see
• 33:32
  it from a different perspective for you to try to relay the game
• 33:36
  to people and, and make it relatable and make it fun and
• 33:41
  have listeners have viewership and all that.
• 33:44
  Is it hard for you to, as someone in your position to
• 33:49
  like, if they're not doing that, like, yeah, but that's kind of
• 33:52
  it's, it's hard for me to like relate a great product when I
• 33:56
  know it's not the best product that we can put on the field.
• 34:00
  That's that's, you know, we're an extension of trying to sell
• 34:04
  this to fans. And so, you know, the bottom
• 34:07
  line when it comes, when it comes to the, you know, right
• 34:11
  down to it, and I'm there, I'm saying here's the two, one
• 34:15
  pitch. That's, that's, that's what it
• 34:18
  comes down to for me. And it's I can't dress it up any
• 34:21
  better than it is because fans are fans know what the numbers
• 34:26
  are. They know what the wins and
• 34:27
  losses are. They're watching the games of
• 34:29
  the team is successful or not successful.
• 34:32
  So, you know, I'm either the bearer of good news, I'm the
• 34:36
  bearer of bad news, you know, and from a broadcaster
• 34:40
  standpoint, you know, I've spent a lot of years calling teams
• 34:44
  that were not successful. I could have said bad teams, but
• 34:47
  I said teams that were not successful on the field.
• 34:50
  So then the goal for me and, and I said this to my in 2005, the
• 34:55
  Nationals could have won 1000 games or lost 1000 games.
• 34:58
  People were so excited to have baseball, they didn't care.
• 35:01
  And then the team in June ran off 10 wins in a row.
• 35:05
  They went 20 and six. They were, they were 50 and 31
• 35:10
  at the midway point. And it were a team that nobody
• 35:13
  expected to do anything. And they were getting huge
• 35:16
  crowds, averaged over 40 / 40,000 a game first half of the
• 35:20
  year at RFK Stadium, which was pretty much a dump, you know,
• 35:24
  not a good place to watch a game.
• 35:26
  But for people who remembered baseball when they had it, they,
• 35:29
  they didn't care. They were excited to go there
• 35:31
  and, and see games. And so you had a honeymoon
• 35:34
  period. They went 31 and 50 the
• 35:37
  second-half of the season, fell out of the wild card race in
• 35:40
  September and finished 81 and 81, fifth place, 500 people were
• 35:44
  still happy, you know, but that's, that's not going to, you
• 35:48
  know, that's not going to last. And it didn't.
• 35:50
  And, you know, the second or third year, I said to my
• 35:53
  partner, we're going to have to find a way to tell stories and
• 35:56
  make these broadcasts interesting because people are
• 35:58
  not going to tune in for for wins because this team's not
• 36:02
  going to be good enough while they're while they're building.
• 36:04
  So we have to, you know, get into, you know, where the
• 36:11
  players are from trying, you know, find out different things,
• 36:14
  stories to tell because it's got to be about more than just a
• 36:17
  game. But you know, now where the
• 36:20
  Nationals are, a team that won in 2019, they had great teams
• 36:25
  from 2012 all the way through winning the World Series 2021,
• 36:30
  expiring contracts. They fall off in July.
• 36:33
  They trade everybody away and have been in a rebuild since.
• 36:37
  So you have an entirely new front office now with the 35
• 36:40
  year old president of baseball operations.
• 36:43
  You know, the first day of the winter meetings they put out a
• 36:46
  statement to fans talking about the kind of club he wants to
• 36:51
  build and wants young kids to fall in love with baseball the
• 36:55
  way he did growing up in San Francisco, which was a team he
• 36:58
  grew up watching. That one, three World Series in
• 37:02
  what, 5 or 6 years with Bruce Bochy and those teams in San
• 37:06
  Francisco from 2010 to 2014, OK, that you fall in love with the
• 37:12
  winner. That's how it happens.
• 37:13
  That's why there's, that's why there's Yankees fans all over
• 37:17
  the country that go to games when the Yankees are on the
• 37:19
  road, because they became such huge fans of an iconic
• 37:22
  franchise, especially after they won four World Series in, in a
• 37:27
  short span of, of time in, in the late 90s, early 2000s.
• 37:31
  And so, and then another one in 2009, you know, so when it comes
• 37:37
  to it, you know, you have a new front office from top to bottom,
• 37:40
  a new manager and you've stated the type of chemistry you want
• 37:43
  to build and a team you want fans to fall in love with.
• 37:47
  But these fans are ready for someone to be signed and try
• 37:50
  and, and build a winner. You're trying basically you're
• 37:53
  asking for a honeymoon period. That's a tough thing at this
• 37:56
  point. All right, Charlie, we're going
• 37:59
  to do. We have a game.
• 38:00
  You're a, you're a trivia guy. We're going to get you involved
• 38:04
  in. This is the first time you've
• 38:06
  ever done this before. We call this trivia game Tic
• 38:09
  Tac. No tick.
• 38:10
  Tick. Morris right in the butt.
• 38:15
  We get the prizes cheap because they're stolen.
• 38:18
  No, no, no, no, no, no. All right, ladies, each.
• 38:28
  Other going wrong? We have a wonderful, wonderful
• 38:32
  game. And Charlie's never done Tic
• 38:34
  Tac. No, it's a trivia game and we
• 38:35
  call it Tic Tac. No, because somebody always says
• 38:39
  no and Speedy is going to be leading this trivia game.
• 38:44
  Are you ready, Speedy? I am.
• 38:45
  All right, let's go. All right, so we'll start.
• 38:48
  Good thing I had some extra baseball.
• 38:49
  Was prepared for this. We'll start with a baseball one
• 38:51
  I've had saved for since the MVP stuff came out.
• 38:54
  So Barry Bond and Showy Otani have won four or more MVPS.
• 38:59
  Bonds won seven. But there are three players that
• 39:01
  have won exactly 3 or 4 players have won exactly 3 MVPS that
• 39:05
  were National League players. Name two of those guys. 3 MVPS,
• 39:13
  all National League MVPS. You're saying National League?
• 39:16
  Guys. And they won three of them.
• 39:17
  They won three exactly, yes. Bonds is one, right?
• 39:22
  No, no, Bonds won seven. These are the guys that have won
• 39:25
  exactly 3 MVP's. So not Bonds, not Showy Otani,
• 39:28
  who won four. OK, exactly 3.
• 39:32
  Yep. We go go really far back on
• 39:39
  this. Some of them, Some of them go
• 39:42
  back to the 50s. Yes, and 1 is.
• 39:45
  Stan Mutual. Yep.
• 39:47
  That's one. There's one and there's one kind
• 39:50
  of seventies, 80s, and there's one that's 2000s.
• 39:55
  All right, I got my guess was right.
• 39:56
  So we just need to get one more and we get the point.
• 39:59
  Yep, and looks like Java disappeared.
• 40:03
  He said he's literally, yeah, he's his.
• 40:05
  Internet's acting up. Let's say you said a 70s.
• 40:12
  There's one like seventies 80s guy, one more 50s error.
• 40:16
  Hank Aaron. Nope, not Hank Aaron.
• 40:21
  I have no clue. You want me to guess for some
• 40:27
  for you, Tommy? Yeah, I'll give you my guess.
• 40:30
  All right, so 70s National League, they all the MVPS are in
• 40:35
  the National League. They didn't couldn't have gotten
• 40:37
  it one one of them in the AL or anything like that They're.
• 40:40
  All in the National League. OK, wow.
• 40:47
  Not Hank Aaron. That's tough.
• 40:53
  Oh, no, it would have been. I already got the old one.
• 40:58
  Johnny Bench. It's not Johnny Bench.
• 41:02
  Good guess though taking. Somebody off the Big Red
• 41:08
  Machine. Right.
• 41:09
  Yeah. Nope, there's not anyone on that
• 41:12
  team. No, it's a good guess though.
• 41:17
  National League, Wow, I I don't think I'm going to get that one,
• 41:23
  he said. There was a couple of more
• 41:24
  recent ones those. There was one.
• 41:25
  There was one 2000s era player. Oh geez.
• 41:33
  Pool holes, anyone? From the Pirates.
• 41:38
  Nope, pools fish got it all right.
• 41:39
  Fish with both of them, Albert. Pool.
• 41:41
  Holes, Albert. Pool holes, yeah.
• 41:43
  You guys were able? To get all right, Cardinals.
• 41:47
  OK, so here we go. This is how we play the game.
• 41:50
  Everyone has an icon. Charlie.
• 41:52
  Here's your icon for tonight. Did we get the 70s Eighties one?
• 41:58
  Oh, Speedy, tell us the ones that we didn't get.
• 42:00
  So the the other 50s one was Roy Campanella and then the the 70s
• 42:07
  eighties one was Mike Schmidt. Oh wow, should have gotten that
• 42:11
  one. All right, so I got the center
• 42:14
  square. Next question, Speedy?
• 42:16
  All right, we'll go to an Edwin Diaz theme question.
• 42:19
  So he had the he's tied for second in the American League
• 42:22
  all time with his 57 save season back in 2018, the year before
• 42:27
  the Mets traded for him. He is tied with what American
• 42:30
  reliever that did it in 1990. 57 saves.
• 42:36
  Yep, in 199057. Saves Bobby.
• 42:40
  And Charlie gets. It very.
• 42:42
  Good. All right, that's awesome.
• 42:46
  I would have never gotten that one.
• 42:50
  Here it is, Charlie. Where do you want to put the
• 42:53
  piece? We got to make tic tac toe.
• 42:55
  So you tell us that bottom corner.
• 42:59
  Take a corner. Yep, all.
• 43:01
  Right here we go. Right here.
• 43:03
  All right, Speedy, you got to get what you got to give us your
• 43:05
  hard one. Now you got to.
• 43:06
  Block us. We're going to shift to a little
• 43:08
  basketball for this one. So LeBron James that just
• 43:11
  recently had his 1920 seven 297 game streak broken where he
• 43:17
  scored double digit points in a game.
• 43:18
  So the last time he did not do that before just recently
• 43:21
  against the Raptors was on January 6th, 2007 when he did it
• 43:25
  against what East Coast team? Oh come on, that is literally we
• 43:32
  just have to randomly guess the right team that he played was
• 43:35
  his rookie. Was that that?
• 43:36
  I'm assuming that's his rookie year.
• 43:37
  Nope. 2007. No, 2007 you said so he had a
• 43:41
  single point game like 3 years into his career.
• 43:43
  So he had like a really bad game.
• 43:45
  I guess he'll start off, I don't know with.
• 43:48
  The Knicks and. It's not the Knicks.
• 43:50
  No, he only he never scored less than 30 against the Knicks.
• 43:53
  It's never happened. I don't know.
• 44:00
  You said East Coast, so Boston. No, Charlie.
• 44:06
  Guess the East Coast. I'm going to guess Detroit.
• 44:14
  Nope. That's more Midwest.
• 44:18
  Still East Coast. It's not East Coast, it's in the
• 44:22
  middle of the country. It's East Coast.
• 44:25
  Michigan's not East Coast. Shut up, fish.
• 44:30
  It's. Literally an East Coast team.
• 44:34
  Yes, it's an East Coast team that held LeBron James a single
• 44:37
  digits. I know when this happened the
• 44:44
  other day I was trying to they mentioned it the last time he
• 44:49
  had a single digit game. Oh, I I think I might have
• 44:56
  figured it out, I think. I have a team 2 now but I don't
• 44:59
  I already. Guessed Boston.
• 45:01
  Did we say Boston? I said Boston, Miami.
• 45:06
  It is not Miami Fish. What was your what was your
• 45:09
  hunch that you just got? I think it might be.
• 45:13
  I know it wasn't Washington. It was not Washington.
• 45:15
  That would have been a funny coincidence if it was.
• 45:18
  Though is that the Dwight Howard Orlando team?
• 45:21
  No, Goody would have had. Goody would have had too much
• 45:24
  fun with that. No, it was actually the at that
• 45:25
  time. New Jersey Next.
• 45:27
  I was going to say that I don't know.
• 45:28
  Oh my God. Well, Speedy, you earned that
• 45:33
  one that that sufficiently stumped all of us.
• 45:36
  I'm assuming we're going for the block here.
• 45:38
  Yes, we are. All right, Speedy, next
• 45:41
  question. Let's keep it moving.
• 45:43
  Some college football for this one.
• 45:44
  So the recently hired Matt Campbell got the Penn State job,
• 45:47
  turned down a director of player personnel job in 2003 for what
• 45:53
  NFL team that won a Super Bowl? Say that all over again.
• 45:56
  I'm sorry. So Matt Campbell in 2003, the
• 45:59
  new head coach for Penn State, previously Iowa State head
• 46:01
  coach, turned down a director of player personnel job in 2003 for
• 46:05
  what NFL team that won a Super Bowl in the 21st century, he.
• 46:11
  Turned down the job. Well, that rules out The Jets.
• 46:17
  I'm going to say during that time won a Super Bowl.
• 46:27
  The Eagles not. The Eagles.
• 46:29
  Damn. They won a Super Bowl after he
• 46:35
  turned them down. Yes.
• 46:38
  All right. I thought you were trying to
• 46:39
  pull a fast one on me here who's gone through a bunch of
• 46:52
  upheaval. That's what also won, and it
• 46:57
  wouldn't be like a great franchise if you turned it down,
• 47:01
  right, Raiders? They did not win in the 21st
• 47:11
  century. Oh that's I thought they won in.
• 47:15
  No, they didn't win. They lost that super.
• 47:17
  Bowl. That's as bad as me picking
• 47:18
  Detroit. That's why I asked in the 1st
• 47:20
  place. I don't even know why I said no.
• 47:22
  It is not as bad as you not knowing where in the country.
• 47:25
  Detroit is. You, you not knowing where
• 47:28
  Detroit is is. Significantly worse, right?
• 47:32
  No, it's not the fact that. You.
• 47:34
  You are out of your mind if you don't think.
• 47:35
  That's worse in the 21st. You not knowing no geography,
• 47:39
  the fact the fact of our country, the fact that they have
• 47:42
  puzzles for like 6 year olds. Here's the puzzle.
• 47:45
  I'm tired and I don't want to listen.
• 47:46
  To your pig now. You're the one fighting.
• 47:49
  No, you're the one that actually said that the Raiders had won
• 47:53
  something in the 21st century when they had.
• 47:55
  It I was trying to think of a crap franchise that a guy like
• 47:59
  Campbell, who must have been in his 20s at the time, would turn
• 48:03
  down as opposed to not knowing where Detroit is.
• 48:08
  I think the 21st century, you picking the Oakland Raiders is
• 48:12
  absolutely pathetic. Well, I disagree with you.
• 48:14
  I think yours I. Disagree.
• 48:16
  The last time they were. In But we can agree to disagree
• 48:18
  with Rich. Cannon. 2025 against the almost
• 48:21
  2026. That was the last time they even
• 48:23
  got close so. That's the one I was thinking of
• 48:26
  and for some reason I I don't know why.
• 48:27
  They didn't wait. I.
• 48:28
  Remember the Barrett Robbins disappearance?
• 48:31
  That Super Bowl? The stairs like All Pro Center
• 48:33
  that never played again after that.
• 48:36
  Speedy. I'm going to say the Broncos.
• 48:38
  It's not the Broncos. So who is it?
• 48:41
  It's Charlie has a guest left. Wild guest Charlie I.
• 48:47
  Have a team now that. I'm thinking of, I will say
• 48:54
  Carolina. And it's not Carolina.
• 48:57
  Carolina fish. Kind of.
• 48:58
  Wild guest, yeah. Fish kind of redirected.
• 49:01
  It actually was a great franchise.
• 49:03
  It was. The really what it?
• 49:05
  Was the Patriots. So wait, the Patriots, they
• 49:08
  offered a 20 year old, they offered a because he in 2003.
• 49:15
  Like isn't he only in his early 40s?
• 49:17
  Matt? Can't this guy like he would
• 49:19
  have been like 21? Yeah, something like that.
• 49:21
  He's definitely young still. He is 46, so I guess he would
• 49:27
  have. Yeah, he would have been. 20 he
• 49:29
  would have been like 2 years out of college time.
• 49:31
  Yeah, and he turned it down. What?
• 49:33
  Who's impressive enough two years out of college to be
• 49:36
  named? You know what?
• 49:38
  Who knows what the way that they did stuff.
• 49:40
  It's the Patriot way, I guess. Speedy.
• 49:42
  Speedy. Where do you want to go all?
• 49:44
  Right, let's go. Oh, whoops, that's not the right
• 49:48
  one. That's the one with you dancing.
• 49:52
  That one over like a foreign church.
• 49:58
  Breaking news, I need Brittany also.
• 50:00
  Let me just get rid of that. Breaking news, they call me the
• 50:04
  ladies man and Mr. Still your girl.
• 50:06
  All right, Speedy, where all? Right, we will go.
• 50:09
  Let's go top to right. Why is that there, Speedy?
• 50:19
  Here we go. All right, starting to get a
• 50:22
  little hairy. All right, let's go, Speedy.
• 50:23
  We'll see if you guys can get the base the last baseball 1 I
• 50:26
  have. So obviously Pete Alonso getting
• 50:29
  the biggest contract in Orioles history.
• 50:31
  We know all about the Chris Davis debacle too as the other
• 50:34
  bad contract in Orioles history. Besides those two players, who
• 50:38
  got the next highest? The next biggest contract for
• 50:44
  the Orioles? Yep, besides Chris Davis and
• 50:47
  obviously Pete Alonso just signed.
• 50:52
  How far back are we going? Not as far, not that far.
• 50:58
  Miguel Tata. Nope.
• 51:02
  That's a good guess. That's a good guess, Brady
• 51:08
  Anderson. Nope.
• 51:11
  Steroid. Man and cash in on that steroid.
• 51:15
  I mean, Luke, 50 home run season.
• 51:22
  All right, Maybe it's more recent.
• 51:23
  Maybe it's like I'm going to say Adam Jones.
• 51:26
  That's correct, yeah. All.
• 51:30
  Right. All right, Speedy, we're going
• 51:32
  to block you. All right.
• 51:39
  Next question all. Right.
• 51:40
  So you guys brought it up in Deuce of the Day, Phillip
• 51:42
  Rivers. They call Cam Newton debacle.
• 51:45
  So Cam Newton's MVP season, Phillip Rivers leading receiver
• 51:49
  that year was not a running, was not a receiver, was either a
• 51:53
  running back or a tight end. Name this player.
• 51:56
  I'll name the first one Antonio Gates.
• 51:58
  It's not. Antonio Gates.
• 51:59
  Oh, you said a run. So then it's the then it's the
• 52:01
  Hall of Fame running back. The Hall of Fame running back.
• 52:06
  Denny's, 2015 Oh, No 20. 15 Oh, you said you said old 2015.
• 52:10
  Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
• 52:11
  Yeah, 2015's, then I didn't run. It back.
• 52:15
  Was Eckler on the team then? No, no, no, no, not Eckler.
• 52:22
  Well, it wasn't. Gates.
• 52:24
  No, it's it's only 2015. Tomlinson was already done by
• 52:27
  then. Who the?
• 52:28
  Hell did they have at the running backroom then?
• 52:33
  Is that like? I don't know.
• 52:39
  Yeah, I have no clue. Give me give me your guess then,
• 52:42
  Tommy. Yeah, I'll get fish.
• 52:44
  My guess? So you're saying that it wasn't
• 52:47
  Gates? So the leading receiver as far
• 52:49
  as yards or receptions or both yards yards.
• 52:54
  Wow. Keenan Allen was second with
• 52:58
  755. And that's obviously not great,
• 53:02
  but it was a running back that would have gotten that many
• 53:05
  yards. That's really fascinating.
• 53:08
  Who did they have? Like on the tip of my tongue.
• 53:16
  No one will get this. I mean, after Tomlinson, who was
• 53:23
  their running back? So like Michael Turner or
• 53:26
  something like that, Didn't we have him on the show?
• 53:28
  I don't think he was a receiving threat though.
• 53:33
  No, he was. He was.
• 53:34
  He was in Atlanta. Then that's right, Atlanta.
• 53:38
  No. Was the Chargers back up took
• 53:42
  over? Danny Woodhead.
• 53:43
  Charlie gets it. Very good.
• 53:45
  Woodhead and I was not going. To get that well.
• 53:47
  Charlie already guessed, though, that.
• 53:50
  Was it? Charlie got it.
• 53:52
  I'll get in that. All right.
• 53:54
  Well then it's game over, Charlie.
• 53:56
  We have done it. All right, you can there.
• 54:02
  You go. All right, There we go.
• 54:06
  Tic Tac. No.
• 54:07
  Charlie's first Tic Tac No game. All right, so we got one more
• 54:12
  segment, and since Jabba's no longer with us because his
• 54:17
  computer went down, we will have Charlie join us.
• 54:20
  I'm sure he has his own take on this, as we call this.
• 54:23
  What's that smell? Hold up, what is that smell?
• 54:27
  What's that? Smell.
• 54:33
  Wow, you don't see that every day.
• 54:35
  I am absolutely pissed off by the Buccaneers.
• 54:37
  They have not used Bucky Irving at all.
• 54:40
  Godwin has a touchdown and I'm playing Godwin in my fantasy
• 54:44
  league. It's just absolutely pathetic.
• 54:45
  And still no Bucky Irving. Enough of Bucky.
• 54:49
  Irving, it doesn't answer me this.
• 54:51
  Errol, the Atlanta scores, it's 2820, Yeah, with over 9 minutes
• 54:57
  to go. And they went for two and they
• 54:59
  didn't get it. I don't understand that, but
• 55:02
  also if if the Buccaneers are smart, they run the ball so they
• 55:06
  run the clock out. But.
• 55:09
  The analytics, the analytics say that you do do that Charlie
• 55:12
  though, because like the idea is if you get it.
• 55:15
  Worked in their favor because Mayfield on the next possession
• 55:19
  just got intercepted. Well, I mean.
• 55:22
  Has the Atlanta has the ball near midfield.
• 55:28
  That's really interesting. Maybe this game's going up in
• 55:29
  overtime or come down to that two point conversion.
• 55:32
  But the idea is if they make the two point conversion, then they
• 55:35
  get a touchdown and they win with the extra point.
• 55:37
  If they don't make it, they still have a chance to tie with
• 55:40
  getting a 2 point conversion. So technically that's a better
• 55:43
  set of outcomes than just kicking the extra point, they
• 55:47
  say. I wouldn't be surprised if
• 55:49
  Atlanta wins this game. It's very typical.
• 55:52
  Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, so it's pretty simple how you
• 55:55
  play this game. We're going to go around in a
• 55:58
  circle and we're going to tell you something that is happening
• 56:02
  in football, baseball, hockey, basketball, and we're going to
• 56:07
  tell you what it smells like. It could be anything.
• 56:09
  It could be something bad, something good, whatever, and
• 56:12
  we're going to tell you what it smells like after we give you
• 56:16
  the take. So First things first, we're
• 56:18
  going to go Speedy, we're going to go fish, we're going to go
• 56:20
  poops, we're going to go Charlie, we're going to go me.
• 56:22
  Here we go, all. Right, so I'm going to start it
• 56:24
  off with CVS Sports and 24/7 Sports.
• 56:27
  College football radio host and personality Bud Elliott
• 56:32
  literally decided to say it is a safety issue, putting James
• 56:37
  Madison the number 12 seed and Tulane the number 11 seed in the
• 56:40
  College Football Playoff field. He said football is not like any
• 56:43
  other sport, it is a safety issue.
• 56:45
  He said that eight and five. Duke deserved a spot and also
• 56:48
  Notre Dame, Texas and Vanderbilt deserving spots over those two
• 56:53
  group of five teams because it is a safety issue.
• 56:55
  Tulane and JMU being in our avoid our charity to avoid
• 56:59
  getting sued and then literally responded to some fans that took
• 57:03
  shots at the SEC for scheduling schools like the Citadel and
• 57:07
  stuff like that try to defend this issue when literally
• 57:09
  football is the same game. If anything, it's just as
• 57:12
  physical just because those teams have to play more
• 57:14
  physical, including somebody like Tulane that's had some good
• 57:16
  defensive lineman and linebackers, Jeff from the NFL
• 57:18
  recently, and Jamie JMU, which has been an FCS powerhouse for a
• 57:22
  while. So I don't know what you're
• 57:24
  thinking. Safety issue.
• 57:25
  Football is the same game. Yikes.
• 57:26
  Why do you work there? You're going to make takes like
• 57:28
  that. So what does that smell like?
• 57:30
  It smells like a Green Wave that Tulane likes to bring, but
• 57:33
  instead of a green color, it's green, filled with mold and
• 57:36
  algae going all on to Bud's head.
• 57:43
  So the giants I got, I actually have two giants.
• 57:47
  What's that smells? We're going to combine them.
• 57:49
  The first one is did you know on that wonderful missed field goal
• 57:56
  by young Waku where he got his foot stuck in the ground and and
• 58:02
  couldn't actually kick the ball and it looked like he got frozen
• 58:05
  by a magical spell in a video game.
• 58:09
  The punter, Jamie Gillan, who is the holder for the kicks, ended
• 58:13
  up injuring his knee on that play and will likely miss the
• 58:17
  game this week. So that play not only was one of
• 58:21
  the worst plays I saw in real time, also got our punter
• 58:24
  probably injured possibly for the rest of the season.
• 58:27
  That is so terrible. And on top of that, listen to
• 58:32
  this, this one, you know, the Giants used to have employ Brian
• 58:35
  Cox, guess the same Brian Cox that made Tom Brady's career
• 58:38
  possible. Brian Cox as assistant defensive
• 58:41
  line coach. And he was fired by Mike Kafka
• 58:45
  over a large disagreement last week over apparently Kafka
• 58:51
  telling him and his assistant group that they are now sitting
• 58:55
  in the back of the plane. That is some horrible optics
• 59:00
  that I don't understand why the story is not being talked about
• 59:03
  a little bit more. It smells like that everything
• 59:07
  is wrong in the Kingdom of Mike Krapka.
• 59:11
  Yes, I'm going to be calling him Mike Krapka from now on.
• 59:14
  He is just as bad as the rest of them.
• 59:17
  Obviously Cox was a Dabel guy apparently, and the Dabel Kafka,
• 59:22
  I mean, Dabel did like bully him for Four Seasons straight.
• 59:25
  So I guess that that there's some some retribution, but man,
• 59:29
  what an absolute stink bomb of a crap show in crap town.
• 59:35
  That's what it smells like. Just the most crap.
• 59:40
  You brought up Brian Cox accelerating Tom Brady's career.
• 59:43
  It was funny. The one Jets game I ever went to
• 59:45
  back in 2015, they were playing the Patriots and they were.
• 59:48
  They were honoring MO Lewis before the game.
• 59:51
  Oh my God. All right, Tommy, All right.
• 59:54
  Right, so I'm going to be keeping it with some wrestling.
• 59:56
  I know I did wrestling last week, but this Saturday?
• 1:00:00
  Alex is going. To be this Saturday, the
• 1:00:02
  conclusion will be coming to an end for a specific man.
• 1:00:06
  The last time is now, and I'm talking about the 17 time. 1 of
• 1:00:10
  the greatest champions with the greatest wrestlings of wrestlers
• 1:00:13
  of all time, Mr. John Cena himself.
• 1:00:15
  You want to jerk me off now? This retirement tour is going to
• 1:00:19
  be concluding on Saturday. Like I said, shout out to my
• 1:00:21
  father's birthday on that day as well.
• 1:00:23
  Going to. Be concluding on Saturday.
• 1:00:26
  Now The thing is, is that I just have to point out how oh
• 1:00:30
  somewhat piss poor this retirement tour has been now
• 1:00:33
  ever since the last year when he announced that he had 17 dates.
• 1:00:36
  17 dates to go and wrestle for the last time.
• 1:00:40
  Last time he was going to be in certain countries.
• 1:00:41
  Last time he was going to be in certain cities, areas, arenas,
• 1:00:44
  whatnot for the last time on certain pay per views.
• 1:00:47
  Now I will say I'm not dissing the retirement tour itself.
• 1:00:51
  I think that like I said, John Cena, one of the best of all
• 1:00:53
  time, definitely deserves a retirement tour.
• 1:00:55
  However, I feel as if the 17 dates were a lot wasted.
• 1:00:59
  For instance, he's fighting goon third on his last match that
• 1:01:01
  should have been wasted instead of having, I don't know, they
• 1:01:04
  had like tag matches with Logan Paul and it was very random.
• 1:01:08
  So my thing is, is that I feel. I get more girls than.
• 1:01:12
  Scoops The heel run wasn't entirely all there.
• 1:01:14
  I feel like the the creative decision actually decided to
• 1:01:17
  pull some of it back. So my thing is, is creative you
• 1:01:21
  need to Start learning how to book your retirement tours a
• 1:01:23
  little bit better. Because for the man, like I said
• 1:01:25
  for the last 20 years, who has been one of the guys who have
• 1:01:28
  put WWE on blast in PG era in the last 20 years or so, John
• 1:01:33
  Cena definitely deserved a better retirement tour.
• 1:01:35
  But like I said, I'm not going to be trash talking a retirement
• 1:01:38
  tour because the retirement of one of the best of all time and
• 1:01:41
  with their career of one of the best of all time smells like
• 1:01:43
  roses. However, this retirement tour.
• 1:01:45
  Poops gets no coots. Well, this retirement tour,
• 1:01:48
  actually, Speaking of Nathan, that's just on this.
• 1:01:51
  Suck my indo. Errol obviously loves so much.
• 1:01:54
  The smell of his retirement tour smells like Lisa Anne's Groba
• 1:01:57
  trusty aunties. Groba, I love Lisa Anne.
• 1:02:02
  So there we. Go.
• 1:02:04
  All right, Charlie, what do you got for us?
• 1:02:07
  Well, I was. I wasn't prepared for this.
• 1:02:09
  So you you need something that stinks.
• 1:02:11
  Right. Something that stinks.
• 1:02:13
  Give us something that. Stinks.
• 1:02:14
  It could stink nicely sometimes. You could do a nice one.
• 1:02:18
  You smell like roses. The Mets over the last few days,
• 1:02:21
  I mean, what stinks? What does it?
• 1:02:25
  Smell like. I mean, nothing tops.
• 1:02:28
  Nothing tops Losing Edwin Diaz and Pete Alonso in consecutive
• 1:02:32
  days. That's not beatable.
• 1:02:36
  You want my cream pie? That's a show end there, really.
• 1:02:41
  My rear end is burning. There you go, that's what it
• 1:02:45
  smells like if. It's a rent burning after he
• 1:02:52
  tries to put on Lisa Ann's panties.
• 1:02:53
  That's true all. Right.
• 1:02:55
  My God the. Final mine was short.
• 1:02:57
  Mine was short. And sweet that.
• 1:02:59
  I can't come up with anything that stinks.
• 1:03:01
  More. I've got a good one.
• 1:03:03
  I got a good one. My final What's that smell goes
• 1:03:06
  to? Finally, Jeff Kent getting into
• 1:03:09
  the Hall of Fame. But now Donnie Baseball's got to
• 1:03:13
  wait until 2028 for the committee to actually look at
• 1:03:18
  him again and vote him into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:03:21
  This guy in a 5 to 6 year span has some of the best numbers
• 1:03:24
  we've ever seen an infielder have.
• 1:03:27
  How many Gold Gloves does this guy have to win?
• 1:03:29
  How many hitting, batting titles did he, this guy had to win in
• 1:03:33
  the time that he did it And, and really with a Yankee team that
• 1:03:36
  was really that bad. And this guy did everything.
• 1:03:41
  He was the Yankee. He was the captain, He was
• 1:03:44
  everything. Donnie Baseball should be in the
• 1:03:46
  Hall of Fame and should be inducted in all of fame,
• 1:03:49
  including the one and only the chief himself, the general.
• 1:03:54
  Yes, you know, I'm talking about the one, the only Mr.
• 1:03:58
  Steinbrenner who's still not in the Hall of Fame. 2 guys that
• 1:04:01
  should be inducted into Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:03
  It's not there. You know what it smells like?
• 1:04:05
  It smells like Bud Selig's ass when he takes a dump.
• 1:04:09
  OK, how is Bud Selig in the Hall of Fame and George Steinbrenner
• 1:04:14
  isn't this guy allowed steroids, allowed everything to go on and
• 1:04:19
  he gets away with it because Robbie Manford was allowing this
• 1:04:24
  guy. And actually as soon as Rob
• 1:04:26
  Manfer gets into position to get his, his, well, whatever Bud
• 1:04:31
  Selig was his, you know, Rob Manfer was his protege.
• 1:04:34
  The the fact is, is that this guy's in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:37
  George Stamper is not in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:38
  Don Manley is not in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:40
  Makes no sense. Albert Bell should be in the
• 1:04:43
  Hall of Fame. Just absolutely.
• 1:04:44
  Potential. I just want to say Errol, I, I
• 1:04:47
  agree with you, the writers missed on Jeff Kent.
• 1:04:51
  He should have been voted in 100% when they had the chance in
• 1:04:53
  the 1st 10 years, right? Yep.
• 1:04:56
  But Mattingly should be in, yes. Keith Hernandez should be in,
• 1:05:00
  Yep. You know, they don't, they don't
• 1:05:03
  get them all right and and they don't the boss, they don't get
• 1:05:06
  them within that that 10 year period, you know.
• 1:05:09
  George Steinbrenner saved baseball.
• 1:05:11
  He saved baseball and and this guy's not in the Hall of Fame,
• 1:05:14
  but Bud ceiling is as the steroid error just magically
• 1:05:18
  happened. So it's just unbelievable.
• 1:05:21
  It's absolutely I agree with you, Charlie.
• 1:05:23
  There's a lot of these guys in and what I don't understand and
• 1:05:26
  what you know what you're trying to come by the way, Kyle Pitts
• 1:05:29
  had another touchdown. That's three touchdowns in a
• 1:05:31
  game. So now they need now, Now they
• 1:05:34
  need that. Here comes the two point
• 1:05:35
  conversion try you were talking about.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, well, and that's and now here's the the, you know, that's
• 1:05:41
  the gamble you take. But now it's to tie the game
• 1:05:44
  now. It's Yeah, well, I'm hoping they
• 1:05:46
  make it because I've got the Bucs kicker in my fantasy and
• 1:05:49
  this is just prime time for kicker points.
• 1:05:51
  If they tie it well. Let's see, like this is 3 1/2
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  minutes left. I want to see Bucky Irving time,
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  and that's what I want to see. They're giving it to that
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  Syracuse kid at the goal line. It's not.
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  They're not giving it to Bucky at the goal line.
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  They didn't get it. They didn't get the 2.
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  Oh well, I guess I'm not getting any more kicker points.
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  Well, that means Bucky, Bucky, Bucky.
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  Give it to buck, Give it to the buck, don't you?
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  Should be, should be giving it to him right now.
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  They should be, but I don't know if that's going to happen.
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  Anyways, that's it for a show. Thank you, Charlie, for joining
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  us. You're sensational as always.
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  I want you to start coming on more, more often.
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  Right now it's the offseason. And like I said, you're a mentor
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  of mine, a person that I look up to and and just the fact that
• 1:06:33
  you came on after having a nice dinner with Mr. Alley.
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  Oh, the old Alex. I always listening to the show.
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  Alex, I want to give a shout out to my my boy, all the all the
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  fans out there that tune into our Spotify and Apple.
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  We have been in the top 200 over the last past week.
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  So all the Spotify and Apple fans that TuneIn and download
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  our product, we really appreciate you guys, all the
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  YouTube fans. It was a big day on YouTube
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  tonight and all the guys and all the ladies tuning in and
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  watching our show. We really appreciate you guys.
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  Facebook, all of it, Instagram, Twitter X, whatever you call it,
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  chop in the mouth, Rolo the mouth 34.
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  and and really support what we do all around the country.
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  We really appreciate you guys and keep up the good work.
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  My new mic, ladies and gentlemen, it's very sweet.
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  Got a good sound to it. So thank you to the new mic as
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  well anyways, and Jabba Chamberlain for popping in and
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  popping up. We love you Jabba.
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  It was a really, really, really good show.
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  Speedy, who do we have on next? Week.
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  All right, so quit suddenly we had Charlie coming out tonight.
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  We actually have Charlie. Come on next.
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  Week we had we had on 2 by the by the way, we are moving to
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  Tuesday next week as well. Joining us at 8:45 is the guy
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  that used to play with the Montreal Expos.
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  Former Expos, Cubs, Padres and Blue Jays catcher Michael
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  Barrett will be joining us on the show at 8:45 to shout out to
• 1:07:58
  the the Lisa Ann Lover for getting that one.
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  Oh yeah. That's and I on.
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  Thursday I love Lisa Ann. Confirmed with me earlier today
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  we have Yankees reporter Brian Hoch will be coming on top of
• 1:08:10
  little winter meetings as well. Lulu Pass Liquor.
• 1:08:15
  I also do want to mention as well congratulations to our
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  friend Derek as well. Derek, his him and his wife just
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  had his first their first kid yesterday.
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  I wasn't. I wasn't invited to the wedding.
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  The Mountain Man the. Mountain Man didn't invite me to
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  his wedding. He didn't invite me to, you
• 1:08:31
  know, be invited to that beautiful opportunity to see the
• 1:08:35
  baby for the first time. That sounds.
• 1:08:37
  Like. Dodger, that's what it smells
• 1:08:39
  like anyways. Thank you to death.
• 1:08:41
  By the way, give a shout out to the Mountain family for another
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  grandchild, Steve, Mr. Steve Mountain being a grandfather.
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  Shout out to a very, a very well known person that I respect very
• 1:08:54
  well, my agent, Brian Mountain. He's a, he's a uncle and he's a,
• 1:08:58
  he's a father too. So shout out to the Mountain
• 1:09:00
  family. We really appreciate all the
• 1:09:02
  work that they do behind the scenes for me and us.
• 1:09:06
  Anyways, that is it. It is wonderful.
• 1:09:09
  It is sweet. It is time to go.
• 1:09:12
  I am not singing a song. I just want to pass and maybe
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  eat some food. So good night.
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  Farewell, we will talk to you. Goodnight.
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