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Episode 146 | First Choice · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Mommy, mommy, i want to go back to school.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Mommy, mommy, stayin' open to cold, i want you to understand.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I need an education.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: I want to learn to be fun, be a kind of sony, but what I really, really love the best I want to be in school in time for recess.
• 1:35
  Speaker 4: I want to start by congratulating all the children and all the parents who take part in SCA this week.
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: What is common entrance to SCA?
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: What are we supposed to say?
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: And most of the people who listen to this, i should say common entrance, which has been turned into SCA Because all they might do up to date on it all the hell in the audience in this podcast.
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: But congrats.
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: Sca results come out this week And, of course, as with every year, they have SCA I plan to talk about this week.
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: I plan to see topics and things I say welcome and things.
• 2:06
  Speaker 4: Episode 140 will be here.
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: We'll get to everything.
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: But when it comes to SCA results, we always get to this point where results come out And some people elated, some people disappointed, some people heartbroken.
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: But I want to just start this week's episode by congratulating everybody who participates in the SCA exam, which is such a life-thurning moment, at least in the mind of children at the time.
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: There's been so much pressure put on them going into the exam And waiting on these results.
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: I said you know.
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: I said I'm out of freedom when the exam done.
• 2:41
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine what it's like to get back into them last week or two weeks before results come out, to wait to hear what just happened.
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: I can't remember what it was like waiting for it to come out.
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: That type, i think, for me for common entrance.
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: To be honest with you, when I come out of the exam I know I'd pass from the first choice.
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: I'd put in new work and I think out of that whole paper I must get one question wrong.
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: So I was pretty sure I passed from the first choice before then.
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: But you know the nerves will start to bubble up in you Just before the results come out again, because you know how people go market.
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: Your fate is in somebody else's hands at that point in time, right?
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: And sometimes I wonder if it is the children, is it we, the adults, putting each other under too much pressure?
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: Or is it we wonder, pressure and assuming that each other under a lot of pressure?
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: Because I started here really because of a call hood on Blaze and Miles this morning after the results come out, their next show.
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: After the results came out, happy 4th of July to everybody, right?
• 3:38
  Speaker 4: If you didn't wondering why it did never podcast on Tuesday, it's the 4th of July And from now on we celebrate in all global holidays, no matter which part of a holiday and will and holidays, right.
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: So a guy calling and of course again a lot of calls congratulating the children They pass for the first choice.
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: Many of the parents call and congratulate the children without saying which choice they pass for and all that which That might make life a little easier.
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: You know, i mean a less pressure on people or at least as least public pressure.
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: The shame if you want to call it as a senior child, pass for the school or that school or whatever it might be.
• 4:11
  Speaker 4: But one man called and he's, he opened my saying boy, listen, i break my heart to make this call here by hearing all these results and it hurts.
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: Now, if you know, blaze and them show is a kicks the callers and them on kicks right through.
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: So when the guy say that as well, he coming at something.
• 4:27
  Speaker 4: But then he said his son had a reset.
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you, but they don't say fail again or something.
• 4:31
  Speaker 4: If you get less than 30% this year, tell me at a reset or 40% or something like that.
• 4:36
  Speaker 4: So they don't say failure to reset.
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: And if you're of the, if you're under the age that you could go under the maximum age for primary school, and now again, it's all the way wrong.
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: But if a maximum age, you can stay in primary school and if you're still under age by the time in next year come, they will keep you back and let you do over the exam.
• 4:54
  Speaker 4: Because, as we know, it's not like our time where you do the exam and some people fail and they have to go post primary or whatever you used to call it.
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: Post primary was basically a direct route to YTC in a way.
• 5:06
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you know what I mean.
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: It was such a hard and fast thing back in the day.
• 5:11
  Speaker 4: And they print all the way, name any papers and yet go through the name now and everybody, everybody, now it's social media, right, they're holding shift to Facebook and saying where you're seeing people post what they turn and do one.
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: My advice to everybody going forward is if you see parents, don't post nothing when they turn, don't call, don't call, don't act, don't text to find out nothing.
• 5:34
  Speaker 4: Just allow that, leave that.
• 5:36
  Speaker 4: Let people process their own results in their own way.
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: Let people have their own moments.
• 5:39
  Speaker 4: Whether you're ecstatic or you're depressed with the result, let them have their little moment for themselves first before it become a public thing.
• 5:47
  Speaker 4: But I used to be worried about that common entrance list print out in the Guardian and all the names, small, small area.
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: Go through and see a name and see neighbors name and who pass for where and your mother in like the neighbors So she glad this one fail and all these kinds of things Comrade area, lakeria and Cancun and you know.
• 6:02
  Speaker 4: But now social media kind of replace that.
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: And how do you post if your child do well, congrats to everybody who do well, of course, and everybody who pass and who happy with the choices, right, whether it's first or fourth choice, you pass and you're happy with where you're going.
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: And but how do you deal with it when you're your child and get picked?
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: You had to go back down And the thing about this is like those things are not.
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: It's not black and white, not cut and dry and it's certainly not life and death.
• 6:31
  Speaker 4: And the way we treat these exams sometimes is like it's like it's the end and children depressed.
• 6:37
  Speaker 4: So when this father calling, he basically realizes a serious call and he was saying well, his child get, keep back.
• 6:43
  Speaker 4: His child had to reset the exam And you know he feeling our way now because he hearing all these people celebrating and parents celebrating and stuff.
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: And he said the child was sad and depressed and crying all the time and can't get over it And you know, but he don't want to see that for children.
• 6:57
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: But I feel like it's important lesson to learn the lesson early in life.
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: You might be better off learning them kind of lessons.
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: My father was just telling me to do it.
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: I see it right.
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: My father always just tell me try and get home.
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: and a young He said go through your women problems early.
• 7:16
  Speaker 4: He said we can't be way too late.
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: You got them walking through tongue with one hand on your head, one on your bottom.
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: You see them walking through tongue, right Like I ever listened to Selwyn with his slipper.
• 7:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll play that before this episode done This episode.
• 7:29
  Speaker 4: The calypso in this episode, by the way, is heavy hitters And I watch the lineup for this.
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: This is, this is classics all the way through this episode.
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: So if you love calypso, stay tuned.
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: This is classics all the way down to the end.
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, i want to send an encouraging word to the children who might have had to reset and to tell them congratulations and their parents congratulations as well, because it's in these moments, when you're faced with these kind of hardships and these kind of pivotal points in your life, these are the kind of things that is defined way ahead Not that it will be a road to YTC, like I try and is a point at which you could make a choice, a choice to work harder at what you're going to do, find a different part or accept that they might have shortcomings in some areas and look for the areas where you have strengths and work on them.
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: You know, take inspiration from a lot of people who might not have had what we like to call education, sometimes all definition of education in the Caribbean and trying that so narrow sometimes.
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: You know, i mean education is much, much broader than a primary school education.
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: I try to tell Stacy this you know what you think exactly there.
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: I think of when last he asked somebody who's successful, what primary school they went, what secondary school they passed for, how they do in SA, not saying that those things one to affect the other, but there's so many different definitions of success, so many different routes to successful a successful life or to self actualizing And I know the words could fall on deaf ears, right, because it's hard to explain this to a 11 year old perspective on life just so small and so much pressure was put on the exam, external pressure, that is, which would have probably transferred to internal pressure as well.
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: That you might you see in this as failure being a point, but neither success nor failure is no point.
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: Both of them is just two sides of the same coin, is the same journey.
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: Success and failures doesn't have a major one another as far as I concerned, and you had to figure out as fast as possible in life how to deal with both.
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: And the fact that you're facing something that they want to call failures a juncture in your life at 11 is great, but talking to them about this is hard.
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: My message is more to the parents, because that parent, in the midst of trying to console his child, he say boy, you know, i feel him doing this.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: I feel him, boy, i have him in this position right now, so next year I'm going to work with him closer and pick him up closer.
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: And he use a weird kind analogy.
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: He said Calbert and plan has never killed nobody.
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: I tried to tell this child.
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: Now I don't know if it means he was plan has enjoy.
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think that is what he meant.
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: I think what he was meaning is that when life it is somehow blows and think it could go again, you could move.
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: The reality is that this is just, this is just a point.
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: And I'm a wise man.
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: Tell me once in the end everything will be okay And if it's not okay, it's not the end.
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: I live by that and all that failure thing I mean.
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: So for the parents who might be going through something like this, or disappointed in his school the child passed for, disappointed in the fact that the child had reset, and for parents like him especially, who might be blaming themselves or just just wanting to, we're going to tell your child when everybody are wrong, them celebrating but them sad, is these momentous make?
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: like every, every good book I read somebody best books I read like, especially autobiographies.
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you a few.
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: Right, you see?
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: you see Kevin Hart autobiography.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: Or is it autobiography like when you write about yourself?
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: Kevin Hart is one of the best.
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: I read Tiffany Haddish.
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: There are a few of them who, when you hear these stories and the kind of things that they went through to be able to get to where they are Viola Davis, viola Davis own, kevin Hart and Tiffany Haddish, of course.
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: Very funny Basically, viola Davis book she is when you watch them thing and where she is now as one of the best and highest paid black actors they have.
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: It's amazing where she come from.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Just the open couple paragraphs alone could play in tears when she went through in terms of abject poverty and hunger and just personal hygiene.
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: All those things were challenges for initially, but the most interesting stories come from people who went through issues and face failure and figure out a way and do it again and try again and come through again.
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: Those are the stories that we'll remember for much, much longer.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: I read an interesting statistic this week.
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: I think I was listening to it on this little bit conspiracy or goodness podcast.
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: I was listening to it on my dear unreleased episode, but what the guy was saying is that the number one determining factor for individual wealth is the wealthy appearance.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: So if you have any other words, if your parents and them had money, you use the one who end up having money and making more money in life and them kind of thing.
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: The man said boy, listen, all this talk about work hard and invest by real estate and all these nice things Not that you shouldn't do it.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: We mustn't forget that these people, who we hold in higher esteem and have them, lauded the most successful people in the world.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of it had to do with the position they were placed in in life.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: When you're faced with something like this and you don't know where to go and you have to call the radio station to see how hurt you're feeling and how your care can solve your child and you want to work harder to get your child there, i don't feel you in the right place already and you're ripe to be able to face this and come out on the better side of this.
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: So salute again and congratulations to all the children who went through SAA.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: Now I'll tell you already there's only heavy hitters in this episode, and I want to dedicate this one especially to the children, or the children and the parents of the children, who might be feeling that disappointment and all that in this moment.
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: Just remember that this is one of the greatest opportunities ever presented to you.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Heavy hitters this week.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: This is like a modern day classic.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: So take another road.
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: When they tell you no, so make a feel that shy is your only game.
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: No matter how they try, they can't hold your flame.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: So, no matter what you're meeting life, no matter the pain or strife, don't give up.
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: No, don't give up.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: You only fail when you fail to try.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: So don't stop trying.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Winners never quit.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: Quitters never win.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: So when you're munching your style to claim, one thing I want you to bear in mind don't give up.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: No, no, don't give up.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: You want to reach where the air is fresh and from deep within.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Winners never quit.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Quitters never win.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: One thing that come and wrong in crap.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: So in my life, it's the neck you stand.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Negative people, oh gosh, negative people.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: They just don't want you to get ahead.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: We caught you dumb back talking.
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: Stand Negative people And bad mind people.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: Jealousy is all that beats in their hearts.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: Instead of lifting up, they just tear apart, never motivate, never mentor one youth Your head is all that it contributes.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: So, no matter what you're meeting, life in your back does it drive the night.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Don't give up.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: No, don't give up.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: You're only playing when you're fed to try.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: So never stop trying.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: Winners never quit.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Quitters never win.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: And when you're sleeping, you start to slide with every breath that you have inside.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Don't give up.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: No, don't give up.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: You wanna reach where the air is rare in your heart, just to say Winners never quit, quitters never win.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, i see them smirking all day long With the big con and the moving liner.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Negative people Oh gosh.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Bad mind people.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: How I dress, how I comb a hair, what's the price of the clothes I wear?
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Negative people Negative people.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Great minds discuss ideas.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I learn from some more Small minds.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Discuss people all day, that's all.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: So when they come all day and they disrespect, they just expose me size of their intellect.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: This is what you're gonna jump in me, hip spin with your negativity.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: I won't give up.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, won't give up.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: You're only playing when you're fed to try.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: So don't be down-strolling.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Winners never quit, quitters never win.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: So when you feel that you're rich, they bring.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: When the man tries to swim or sing, don't give up.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Don't give up.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I wanna reach where the air is red.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: So once my heart beats mid, Winners never quit And quitters never win, never win.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Long ago, when I started to sing, my ears were like cats carrying once.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Negative people Oh gosh, negative people, and even though I had my place Behind some of them smiling face, negative people, oh gosh, negative people.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Just to reach the top of my body.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: What's the tab Trying to pull me?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: don't like them, value crab.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Returning them is friend, but I must admit, oh, oh, i just don't have no time for no hip-hop burry and no ball-thing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: So, no matter what you say or do, all I say is show, fly, show.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I won't give up.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, won't give up.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: You're only playing when you're fed to try.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: So don't be a web-dispin.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Winners never quit, quitters never win.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: So no matter how they talk, they talk.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Champions rise when it turns to walk.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Don't give up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Don't give up, no matter how they pull me down, i only keep rising.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Winners never quit And quitters never win, never win.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Ding ding, ding ding.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Voice of the great Kari Narshe.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I tell you, is that heavy hitters kind of episode, if you know what I'm saying?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: it's fine some song when nobody even know and lose them, but this is about heavy hitters today.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: So salute again to all the children who participate in SCA.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Congrats to those who are going on to your schools, congrats to you.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Don't like the school, you're going to Go and make the best of it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: And congrats to you all who get the next opportunity at this.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: There's a little girl in the school, zachary, going, who reset the exam, didn't get through last year And then she passed for her first choice this year.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I forget these things.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Where we going next?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I want to finish your topic with Kevin.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Kevin was this week Kevin, ak Morin, ak, river Wich, ak, young Boss, ak again Sluggy, how much different name you have.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Finally put the rest over the book Last week.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Again, condolences to his family, particularly his mother, and all his followers and friends and fans and so on.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: But I can tell you, you know they say live by the gun, die by the gun.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Sorry for the pun right, but if you live a back and a lish life.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: You're going to have a back and a lish life.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: We can't have a back and a lish life.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I've had Kevin on several lives saying he wants to burn, he don't want to bury Because he want nobody to pull him toe.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: He have spiritual baptism too, but then baptism decide he's to bury.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Kevin, you're $90,000.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: They name my house, what is called that house and carriage and thing.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: You know I mean what is old view?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: You know it's time to reach old.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: When you're watching you're going funeral and you still got good in the caskets, you know, i mean, i mean I was in the west at the age.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But the thing about it is just a couple things I want to say about this.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Right, i mean rest in peace, stay my game.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: But the commenters on the live for his funeral you know the commenters had a come and I want to say, like, make a spectacle of yourself, even in the live, anything.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: People come there to say I just want to make sure he dead, i want to see dead for sure.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I mean sure we did body so we could see Satan for the last time.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: These was the kind of comments inside the take And this was the last week.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I can't vex with nobody if your enemy dead on your say but I spit on your grave.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: But we could ease back to some of them, things You could keep in your mind among the car.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: But, most importantly, this man entertain people, including myself, from many, many, well months years.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know how long he been doing it, but I would have come across him a couple of years ago and he went viral many times.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I'm a big following, big Facebook group, young nation They call themselves and all these things And they let it put a go fund me for this man burial and it go fund me Can make a thousand dollars is an important lesson in this life And it's something important to pay attention to.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: You study people and think like, if you feel followers is the equivalent of support and love on them, kind of thing.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: You could really be misguided in this life.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: You could really be misguided.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: So if I want to go deeper into this, i want to say call guardian surgical, any one of these people.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Get yourself a little cheap policy, a little tomb something.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: You know you can get something small, some cheap.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Don't let nobody have to be head to head on headache.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to death, when you go on and they're to borrow money to bury your, go, fund me and take me.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Girl, nobody can help you when you're dead or like me.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: So come and talk about it and then contribute as sent, try and be able to pay your way out of this life, just like always, pay one tax if they're pay for your last ride to you know, i mean, check one of them insurance company and buy a small policy, a family indemnity plan.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Do, do do something for yourself, get yourself together.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: We too big and all, i think everyone was 40 something, late 30s, really 40s.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: That's too big a man to make sure, you know, is a celebrity.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Organize yourself your celebrity funeral, you know, i mean, i always tell you about them.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Pablo is say don't claim the body, anything happen to him.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: He said don't claim the body.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Just when they, when they, when they put him in the morgue, gather everybody close to him Best friends, family and then come close to him.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Let them go and they pull out the draw anymore And you watch.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: He says somebody say a silent prayer there and then say, well, they don't know him.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: He said let me stay in barrier.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: If you know, is a pop of funeral looking for, pay for a pop of little insurance and go out like a pop, if you know is a big talker and is a internet celebrity or whatever you think is me and is a hundred grand for one of them kind of funeral.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: You had to go by a boy named Danny funeral home and they had to stand up and put everything to eat and drink and play in PlayStation and thing by your, your throne and thing, before you go to here and your PlayStation and all them thing and get a hundred grand together and pay yourself.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: You don't mean get yourself in a gear to be leaving nothing back here for nobody to be studying you anything And you know not that I have done very good at this.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I just saying maybe I talk to myself here a little bit, but in terms of the last right, how much of us have our last right sorted out like your family know what you want, where they want to go up down.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I see a thing now they could trade a whole casket in a CD things rather than take talks in a.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: It's a thousands of caskets down in a CD because apparently it legal to just go out on a boat and have a special kind of casket is get with some hole and they just throw you down by the Titanic, by the people and them who went in a little submarine thing.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: they could land up down by them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: You know, i mean I'm like, see what I know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Maybe that might be my way out, but it'll be nice to put together a little thing that's saying you know, this is what I want, is my final right, i put in a hundred grand because I want to have big fat for my thing, i want to perform and all these things.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: You could put these things ahead of time and then you could do the little thing that's say well, you know, i mean this parcel and I give into this one.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I'm a little pat finder given this one, all my jewels are given that person.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Or, if you think of them smaller, and the smaller thing is going to laptop going.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: So how do we do we take these things seriously, this thing?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: make my pause for a minute to know, because I couldn't believe that, with all the support maybe I was being naive but with all the support he have and all the people who not just said they love him before he died, or, i talk more, people like the Facebook page that was his fan page and his insert them things active now like people commented, hundreds of comments, all his videos sharing.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: If all of them had given a dollar we could have pay for the man funeral.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: But well, maybe just put your own things in place and forget people when it comes to these things.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, more from last week.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I had a revisited a topic.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I asked for some feedback on it and I get more than enough feedback on it last week to write, because people these pole, these issues be so polarizing sometimes and then they're not new, to be honest, because this issue about Trinity College and the the here that people had like I will never need a pass for Trinity if these turn, who put Trinity as their first choice, or those who pass for Trinity if they see this issue and pay attention to it before they head there.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I hope they didn't know.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I hope all you all they pay attention to it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: But since I recorded because, as I told you last week, the thing just came out when I record last week and not much statement or made about it there was just a viral story.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: So who should I go to first?
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I go to the minister education or should I go to the principal.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Let me let me from the principal.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Is it chairperson irreverent Shelley and tenure Dean and rector.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: She said for immediate release, trinity College, Mocha, is a government.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I had a part boring.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I want to get to the part with the here that she just told me what the school is and if the school it, you know, routine, is the school, the principal, the prison, the fucking prison where the house, you know, makes this game o.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: When I got know from me and also by the direction, the jail and just plain findet said a funny反 And Pokémon DU.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: The photograph, with the narrative being widely circulated, showing a group of boys standing outside the church is misleading and deeply disturbing.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Contrary to some reports, all graduands and parents who are accommodated at the service, the students who failed to comply with the school uniform policy, hairstyle or otherwise, regardless of ethnicity, were seated in the side of the chapel, within the body of the church, and received their certificates At the event.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: After the vote after the vote after the event, we acknowledged that this course of action did not sit well with all the parents and students.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: We understand the disappointment, embarrassment and vexation of parents and students, both those who received their certificates later in the program and those who witnessed and endured the conduct of a few young men and some parents were said that nobody who got their certificate at the time was upset.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I highly doubt that, as if I was a parent there and my son got a certificate and he partnered with them didn't get through, i would be like what's that one?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: the boys here and things.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: But we'll get to that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: We'll get to my stance on this in a little bit.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: The valedictory service is an annual act of worship held as an Anglican church.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: After months of regular email notices and reminders in assemblies about the various aspects of the uniform policy, and in the weekly notices of the 11th 18th, they say they tell them already and they comment it's in violation of the dress code and they would not be able to process with their peers or graduate with their peers.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: So, in other words, they were said that it is a hell of a long statement and well, this would have been not part of the statement.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: But you already seen my know the images of the boys who were not allowed to graduate.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: So if you didn't see it yet, i'll describe here.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Some of them have some cane room.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Some of them have some spree.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Well, some have some Iversons, one of them looking like what's he man named blue here from Simpsons.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: One of them looking like he, someone that I can play, and man have a big afro here.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: So while it says all ethnicities and so on, i guess the backlash at the time would be African, because there's plenty of African is seen here, although everybody back to never.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of hairstyles and the young African seem to like these days Afro, trinidadian, i consider, seem to like these days.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: But the school came out and make their statement.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I want to hear from the minister of education as well.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: What do you, minister, statement?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: The minister say something to him?
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: the guardian, garth B Dolly, promises consultation and conversation on subjectivity of male hairstyles.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Education minister Dr Nyan Garth B Dolly has responded to reports that she described as regrettable and unfortunate regarding male students who were made to be meant to graduate from Trinity College in Mocha being prevented from crossing the stage.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: The boys were there in Cane Rose or Afro, which was said to be against the dress code for the event.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Guardian media understands that a verbal conversation between parents and faculty.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Guardian media understands that, after verbal conversation between parents and faculty, the boys were allowed to walk sometime after their schoolmates who had heard the rules Without taking sides.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Garth B Dolly addressed the matter in a Facebook post, which she acknowledged that she received and reviewed reports from various perspectives.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: She said that from what she gleaned from the events there was, from what she gleaned from those reports was that there was indeed a breach of the rules.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: From the accounts received, the rules of the school relevant to the dress code for the graduation ceremony were reiterated to both students and parents.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Therefore, it seems clear that those who did not conform were, or should have, been aware of their breach.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: She is also quoted as saying however, the question of suitability of the graduation ceremony as a forum to enforce the rules of a school from which students who actively graduate is a valid one.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I like Nayan Gadhvi Dali already.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I like measured approaches to thinking.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: I like when you take up very much.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I like this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Regardless of one's emotional and visceral response to this issue, it is a fact that societal order depends on rule keeping And that is a critical facet of the education in schools.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: That is a critical facet of the education schools are meant to impart.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Clearly, i didn't go to school because reading is a challenge.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: No matter how non-conformist one's outlook, we all follow rules in some way or another.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I wonder if she's running for prime minister PNM.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Have back for vote again.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I like this.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I like this.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I could vote PNM.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: She runs for local government election by chance.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: She goes on to say.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Therefore, the practice of adherence to school rules is important and, where their divergent views, dialogue rather than open confrontations should be encouraged, especially in a school setting.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I like this a lot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Gadhvi Dali further noted that she intends to act on the matter, as she announced plans to initiate conversations surrounding the removal of subjectivity regarding school hairstyles.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: She said that decisions arising out of these talks would be implemented in the upcoming academic year.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Yet another critical conversation arises out of these circumstances, which speaks to the standardization of rules and removal of subjectivity with surround school hairstyles, especially for male students.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: The time for this conversation turned out as big as come, and decisions will be taken for implementation of the upcoming academic year based on the Ministry of Education's discussion with our valedictor.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Nayan Gadhvi Dali saluted.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: The time had to review these things has not come in Trinidad and Tobago.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: The time for this conversation, it come, it go on, it come back wrong.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: This is not the first time.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Who is Nayan Gadhvi Dali.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know if she's a young girl.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: We stand to reach the age now where the politicians is at least our age and just know they will be all younger than we know.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Where's your?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: age Because you're singing like you're in a wrong lawn.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: They don't tell you the politicians age online or usually when the Google celebrity age has come up one time.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: But I don't know if people will remember the issue with the guilty hijab in Sags.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I was going to the Stingers and I didn't want to learn the hijab.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: This hairstyle thing has been around for a long time.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: This is not gender specific.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: It has been with girls and with boys.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: This is going on for some time.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Gratefully, it's come back up now, just like I was saying, with having to reset SEA.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: These things are opportunities.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: These conversations are important.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Listening to all sides of the conversation is critical.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Hence the reason I was asking for feedback last week because I saw people on social media and this reason I do like posting things on social media, because people have a tendency to make assumptions about what your stance is or how strong your stance is or how committed you are.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: You know, like am I going to hold on to this thing and try to battle this when it might just be your initial thoughts or something that you find funny or something like that?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: So I prefer podcasts because I could talk for long to distill the issue.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I don't have no host.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I have no co-host.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I had to argue both sides of our argument a lot of the times And that's where I am on this issue as well.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: So salute to everybody.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: We give them some feedback.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I know I talked to my boy last week And his basic stance was that the principle is right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I hope I gained it right here.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: The principle is right and rules are rules, and his idea of following the rules is as simple as that, and I don't know if I agree with that necessarily, because, as the principle of the school, there are many, many rules that are broken every day.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I can guarantee anybody who is for the hard and fast implementation of the rule that those were not the only rules broken on that day The hairstyles, that is, and other children who broke other rules would have also been allowed to graduate.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: So while rules are rules and that's a true statement and everything that I'm going to be done, i don't think I could agree with that statement more.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I like the way she put it together too.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like this is something I would have right if I had to respond to our contentious issue Very measured, addressing both sides, saying that she needs time She will take into consideration on.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean Not not going too far off about it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I like the way she put this together, but the reality is that if we live in a world where there's a rule that we know is contentious, then, as I'll say, i like the way I'll put it as well.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I'll say there's a time for discussing the changing of rules, but the time for discussing the changing of rules is not the time when it being enforced.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I find that to be true as well.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: So the reality is that if I, for instance, going into a public sector office and I have on a short pants and I know that is the rule and I know they will not let me in I was in time and energy and maneuver system and my stress level go down, go and get it, just to go there and make a whole quarrel and a scene and this and that and media come and all those things are wasting time, when in fact it's just the MTS or whoever the person is.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: There is just their job to enforce the rule and they should enforce the rule if there's anything.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: But the reality is that I remember getting an injury a year and something ago, right Going into the border in land revenue with our short pants because I've on a boot.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Right The time I can come in the short pants and say cool.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I went back to the next day, i put on a long pants with the boot and they tell me I cannot go into BIR because my toes exposed in the walking boot.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Now anybody who in that situation, who charged with enforcing rules, must realize that this rule is ridiculous.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: And while we understand the purpose of the rule and the spirit of the rule, they are clearly exception to everything, because if your friend had come in and walking booted the toes out, he was letting them in.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: So there's a few different things happening here.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: The guard at the office at BIR might not have the authority to make a change to a rule or a judgment call.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: They should, but they may not have the authority to make a judgment call on a person who come up and they might take a chance for the friend.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: But if they know me from nowhere, they ain't taking that chance from me.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And once again, if my attitude point, i want to quarrel and make a scene, like some of these parents say that they make, a scene which would have probably made it worse If it is the MTS person, though, have the ability to be flexible on the rule.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Certainly the principal of school or whatever they call her, whatever the extracker, whatever the hell she is, she's sung like she have a high enough position in the school to make a judgment call on this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: When the students came.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: The lady name is Dr Sheila.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: What's her name?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Shelly Antenio, that's a lot.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: The very reverend Dr Shelly Antenio, dean and Rector, that's a lot.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: With all them name, all them set a title to your name, you must have the authority to say okay, this is the rule, you're lying.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Contravention is a rule, you're breaking the rule.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I reinforce this many, many times.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: What is the outcome of me enforcing this rule today with a bunch of boys who graduate, and what do I do?
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: And my thing is this in a situation like this, if I am the principal, i am making a concession, exceeding I don't know what's your right word, but I am making a judgment call on that day because my first thing is that I have an obligation to the students.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I have rules and things to follow, but I have an obligation to the students.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I also have an obligation to their parents.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I have an obligation to the other students and all the other parents.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I have an obligation to society.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Several stakeholders are playing here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I am going to make a judgment call on the rule that, as people do all the time, with every single rule, all the rules are rules.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: People fully well know that they don't have nowhere in the world, including the military, that is run by every single rule.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That, written down on paper, the rules them rules.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: That says guidelines when times change or circumstances change or the environment change.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Rules flex every single moment or every single day.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: If you don't find that is true, i want you to go back.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: You and your wife sit down with only a marriage contract.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Whatever religion you go by what the rules are of the marriage and enforce them thing every day.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Any relationship you run in by the rule book or by the contract is going to come to an end.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: The only time we revisit all the rules is when it's time for separation, any time it could be employment contract.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: There's no employer who come into you every day with your job description and all the things in your contract and all the rules you're supposed to follow.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: They come to you every last day.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: They go and look for a next work somewhere else.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: So I, as the very reverent Corey Shepardine and Rector, would make a judgment call at that moment, because I understand what that would be.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I understand the spirit of the rule and what is the purpose of it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I understand why some rules might be unfair to some ethnicities, some religions.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I might see the bigger picture.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: But I also understand that there may be social media blowback to this thing and I don't want the day of these children that's supposed to be their day, who's supposed to graduate?
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: on these things?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want it to be mad by this.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Although they are the wrong, the children are wrong and the parents more wrong.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: But I will make a judgment call on that day.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that I'm going to let them walk with everybody else and I'm going to get them the certificate and I'm going to close one eye and pray.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: It's a plenty of rules we are closing one eye and I don't blind in one eye already it's a plenty of rules we are closing one eye.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: This may not be one of them because, with that obligation that I have to these children, i must let them know that they are consequences to their actions.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And if you're 14, 15, whatever age it is, 16, 17 and your parents slack.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: You had to start to learn from then, if not earlier, that your parents not responsible for your decisions, you responsible for your decisions, and both my mother and my father always said this when you're doing your thing, they may.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: They cannot be there.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: they cannot take the consequences for you, they cannot take the, they can't take the licks, they can't take the detention, they can't take the lock up or whatever the thing is.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: You have to face that yourself.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: So my obligation to the children would have been that I would find a way to give them the certificate, let it happen, let it go through, and find a way to discipline them.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, to show them the error of their ways and forget their parents and all that sort of scenic.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Parents would have called.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Now, it take my week, right, and I ain't come up with nothing, to be honest with you, because I'm feeling like, if anything I do, but let them walk them, parents would have make a scene, and that speaks to the discipline of the parents themselves.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, because I can tell you this let me, let me, let me, let me reverse the thing.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Let me reverse this.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Forget me being the principal, because my stance is that, if I am the principal, i'm finding a way to not turn that into a whole scene and I'm finding a way to teach these children a lesson.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I want to give the principal all the grace and will, because I don't think when I watch, for anytime.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Your name is Dr Revrand Dean Rector.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: She is studying social media and she must be thinking about what he blow back there.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: So I wanted to say that that would be completely out of her wheel.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Well, if I had to assume and also say that I was trying to think of some ways before I started recording, like, okay, if I don't let them walk, what can I do?
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Can I put them for last and make it a shame and think?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I feel as though, regardless of all the options I came up with, those parents would have reacted the same way.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: So I want to give a.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that's what she should have done.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I was to do if I was her.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Let me change that now to be one of the parents of one of those children.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: You see me As a young black child.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I have a young black son and he had a similar.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Now he started to reach that age.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: One time he said he wanted a Mohawk.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: So the mother is always make a little deal with him during the vacation.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: They say, boy, you could wear a Mohawk when school, on vacation.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: But we both of us always agree that, alright, cut it when it's time to go back to school.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: He was going to a Catholic school for all the time, right, and I can't remember what he said.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: He wanted to do it here now this time, like he wanted to let me grow out.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: If he wanted a twist, he wanted to.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Let me know.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Where does he want?
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Personally, as a parent of a black child, especially one who have all kind of hair receding issues absolutely, ronald, thanks for coming back and hopefully I could see you soon and get trim but who have all kind of hair issues, right, i find that the way my son wears his hair should be an extension of his identity as a young black child and if he feels aware as a religion or whatever, i find he should be living in a society where he's free to do that and be free of judgment.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: The issue is that I do not make the rules in society, i don't make the rules in institutions, i don't make the rules of perception or how people see each other.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I don't make the changes that society makes, and so on.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: So, while I will fight for his right to do those things and by fight I mean talk about this in our podcast.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: If you are the one graduate, brother, and after exams you grow out a hair and you came to get hair and everything at 16 and whatever age that is let me say somewhere between 15 and 18, the discussion home by me here in this house is you're not going to graduation ceremony.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: If you're doing trim, trim, you're here.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: The people have a guideline.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: You can't fight the guideline.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: The guidelines say you could have a small fade, you could have a.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Well, listen, the people are not supposed to put pictures.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: This is how much they try to rein this thing in.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Right, because, in fairness to you, see little children or youths like that, especially youths who parents is, let them do what they feel to do, whatever the boundary is, they go, push it further.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: They go, push it further.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: So, dr Shelley, dr Dean Rectiver very reverent, she has a hard spot because I'm trying to push her buttons.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: You know how that is go.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: So for me in my household it's like, brother, the people are rules.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: You're going to the school, to the.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow is your last day, so you have a decision to make, because if at 17 you decided to arrest a new granite dread, i going to tell you all the things that could come along with that and how society will treat you and how the job market might treat you and how some institutions might treat you.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I could get all the things and I could shelter you from some of it as a parent or give you a landing spot If you go out there and you fail to get the things you want.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I could try and do that as a parent if I am alive and I are wrong at the time.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: But what we're not going to do right while in school is to play blind and play like.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: If you will show up there and somebody there have the obligation to let you do things when you blatantly decide that you're going to follow the rules, that not happen home by me That night.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: So my thing would be brother, cut here here.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: If you don't want to cut here and you refuse to cut here, well then we have a bigger problem to write, because then you have to find a suffine residence and them kind of thing.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: But if I decide that, okay, well, if it's so important to use Samson, right, you Samson, so you don't want to cut here at all.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Don't graduate, don't graduate, do not go back in the school.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Forget about that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Send somebody, let mother go and collect your certificate for you and you could move forward with that.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: I'm going to apply to places where RAS and so on is allowed and these kind of things.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: So it's just two different positions from me.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I hope I say in making sense, right, i know I spoke with the both sides and mothers.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Now I'm trying to do.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: I just think that as a parent and I'll let my child go that way, but as the principal, i might have find a different way to approach this.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Rather than to be honest with you, one of my ways to approach it might just be to say ladies sharing graduate.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, because if your parents can't talk to you and think and do the right thing, i know fighting this battle at this point in time, which might be the best approach.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: So, the very reverend Shelley and Dr Tenir, dean and Rector of the Catholic Church of the Holy Trinity, trinity College, mokam Haravaz.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: So to you, the people say you do the right thing, so you do the right thing.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: And one of the things before moving on from this is that I don't want us to forget the pattern and that Gatsby Dolly statement that said this is a time to review these rules.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: What tends to happen is these issues flare up and when they come and they bubble up high, everybody seems to forget that there was an issue like this.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: And then you have another education minister 10 years from now, who now turned 20 something years old, and then start to say oh my God, this here thing is an issue.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: We should revisit this and because, again, I want to, the wise words are the time to discuss the rule and whether it is relevant or not.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: It's not at the time where the rule is to be applied.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: There's two separate times and two separate spaces.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: The problem is that the time to enforce the rule is always there while the rule is in place, but it does seem as though he's ever made the time to revisit the rules, like your toes outside or your short pants or your hairstyle when you go different places.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: And I see somebody say on Facebook recently too, it's not about the rule itself sometimes.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's about people ability To put you in a place and make sure you know, and I feel strongly about that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: When I read that, go and read up the history of the Anglican church right and see where it is the Anglican church on them, kind of thing, i think I'll get frightened immediately when people come from certain church.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: It's telling a story about the way you see your world and the way you see K-Inron, afro, mohawk, all them kind of things.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Your vision about these things could never be a surprise to me at that point in time.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: So salute to everybody involved.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I hope it gets, should I?
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: just?
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I'm moving on right.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I know I'm talking about this for long, but I had to tell you this.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: I had to tell you this Just before you were Pickle TT Newsday.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: As the controversy over hairstyles continues to rage, mp Keith Scotland says his hairstyle came from choice after 50 years.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: He was responding to a comment made by roots founder Mitma Solwasi, who said I admire your hairstyle, there are four exits here and you should take none.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: In other words, she's saying we're happy here.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: I just want to say that, no matter when we discuss the rule and We get Dr Revran Sheila Nia, dean and Rector and all these people, everybody get committee, get your roots, founder.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: What do you mean by name David Mohammed?
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Get everybody from every ethnicity and every religious group come together and think.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: But let me just agree that, whatever it is, scotland wins That ban right.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: That ban I don't want, that's not allowed nowhere.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: My salute to everybody.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I hope everybody do good day.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on now?
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: It's 50 years.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: carry coming on.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Music That's a little heavy Music.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, let's have a party, a Caribbean party, the entire region together In one day.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Splash, don't be a star.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: A Caribbean connection, a regional vibration.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I say we jam in to the songs of the Caribbean.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: We groove in to Calaiso and Silver Music.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: This Django be airy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Music, music, music, music, the songs of the Caribbean.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: We groove in To Calaiso and Silver Music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Music, music.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: One common level of duty is set for all the products you can imagine coming in.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: So once we're inside we're free, but if you're coming from the outside to the inside, then we charge in the same thing, regardless of which island you go to.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: It kinda makes sense when you think about it, because if Trinidad say TV is duty free and Jamaica say TV is coming in from these states is 100% duties, one man go do his ship the thing to Trinidad.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: We done brighter already Ship the thing to Trinidad duty free, and then we go send it to Jamaica duty free because we're in our free trade area, right.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: So the second step is to do a customs union which is one external tariff, one external duty level, right.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: And then you move to what you call a common market.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: In a common market you add not just the free movement of goods and services, but you could also move money freely between countries so capital could move and so on.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Right, and you go to economic union.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: You, by the time you reach, i think, in a common market as well, you're supposed to be working toward free movement of labor.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: I hope I write about that.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: But in a common market is not just goods could move, you could also move your money and you could move yourself.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: So you could.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: You find that in a common market, jamaicans could come and work here with no hassle.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Guyanese could work here.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: We could go there and work.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Guyan or oil and gas, we could go down there and work and so on.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: And then in a economic union, we started to work towards getting our same dollar.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: So it's the same things as all the other three, but we get the same dollar.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: Now, right?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: So, for example, an economic union is like how the fellows at the euro over in Europe how all them countries come together, make a region and they're using one dollar.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Now I mean England still using the Pong, but well then pull out right, so the rest of them in Europe integrated and they have one dollar.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: And then the final step is a political union where we just have one government and one government.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: I think in an economic union they have one central bank like the central bank of Europe I know I have that wrong with that Some kind of thing they call the central bank of Europe.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: And when you go political union you have one leader.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: Now one from 10 leaders.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know a long story here to get to one from 10 leads, not right.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: The issue of one from 10 leads not back any day is that they couldn't really figure out who was going to be the leader of CARICOM or where CARICOM at the time was CARIFTER, caribbean Free Trade Area, the so that's the earliest stage of integration.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: They couldn't really work out who was going to be the leader and which party headquarters will be and all them kind of things.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: And I believe Jamaica decided that they opened up normal manly.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: They said they don't want to partner federation and not making sense and stuff, and Eric Williams responded it was one, one from 10 leads, not genius statement, right Going down in the political, political legend room, the Hall of Fame.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: So the thing about it is this you tend to find that these things, even when you look at England, they work in Europe towards a whole political union right, they will get there eventually.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: I feel in our lifetime we will see probably Angela Merkel being the head of Europe and then is common policy across the whole of Europe and then when they have big countries like that who trade in together and making decisions together, you can't compete when you're looking at small regions like this.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, carycom, or what's supposed to be CSME, is still at the stage of common market, while all the other big boys don't start into head, pass economic union and go to political union.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: We have an economic union in Caribbean here already.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: If you think of the countries that use the EC Eastern Caribbean dollar.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: It's a former economic union that they form it on another, but we still can't seem to get to the point where we have one Caribbean dollar and working toward one Caribbean.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: You can imagine one Caribbean government that is PNM, unc, jlp and PNP and some ones in Guyana to coalition government.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: Imagine all of them having to come together to fight one another.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: But I think it could be to the benefit of us as a region.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I just feel as if we are a little slower.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: This.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: We seem to have reached common market status and we stuck like we're not going anywhere past that.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Even with common market, where there's supposed to be free movement of labor, and with our free trade, we have all kinds of tricks we're playing on.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: When products come into the country, we say we should be not charging you tariff, but you print out to be on your front.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: If you print out the back, it has to go back.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Those things are trade barriers, just like everything else.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: So while we say we're making these regional integration steps, on the ground, what happened in customs and on the port does not usually support what actually happened.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Again, example right, you're supposed to have free movement of labor, which should mean that I could get up and go and work security in Jamaica tomorrow.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: If I feel to go and work security, i go and I work.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: If I feel to go to Guyana and work in your island gas, or if I feel to train dog, i supposed to be able to go.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: If we're in a common market, there's supposed to be a free movement of labor.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: But we put a little thing they call skilled labor now.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: So you have to be skilled.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, because you try and pay laborer, who you call unskilled, to do things for you All they think what you want to do.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: But anyway they say skilled labor.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: So a university degree supposed to have your skill right.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: So again, i have a university degree.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't move to Jamaica for business in 2006, here, 2006 or 2007.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: So I went and applied for the Ministry.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: The Caribbean's CSME skills certificate is where you call it.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: I went and applied for that in the Ministry of Labor in Trinidad.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I get out and well, matter of fact, i didn't even get it.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, i had to get it.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: I get it and I get it stamped.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: And they stamp my passport six months.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: I said, nah, i come in here to live in the bus, i ain't going back.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: And he said, nah, you can't live here, you only have six months.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: So I show him my skills certificate.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Bam, he said, nah, we don't recognize that.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: You don't go to any Ministry of Labor here, or foreign affairs or whatever it is.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: When I go on the immense.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: We don't accept that you had applied for a skills certificate here.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I said, well, that's odd, because if it's a CSME skills certificate, this is it.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: Why should it matter which country I apply for, applied for?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: you know, i tried to say why should it matter which country I try to get it from?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: It should all be the same.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Well, i had to go through the process with Jamaica too, and when I asked, when they asked me about what I need for it, it was the exact same requirements they asked for in Trinidad and I was like, well, this is weird.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: So I was like, well, all right, cool, bring my copies of my certificate.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: They said I need to bring original certificates.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: My new, my degree, is in UE, so the same UE in in in San Augustine, supposed to be a branch in Mona.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: And I asked him like why can't I get just Mona to write me a letter?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't, why wouldn't you, mona, be able to verify copies of them?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: So I had to come back to that, get my original certificates, go back there and apply for it And I wish I had the two documents now to show you that the two documents don't look nothing like one another.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: The two documents don't even resemble the same shape, the same.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: There's not even the same color.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: You got to go and get a different.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: The passport picture is two different background.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: When you're looking at the CSM, his skin certificate from Trinidad, versus you won from Jamaica.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: So it kind of tells us story.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: It kinda tells a story about what we rarely fall in terms of Caribbean unity, and I think Murchin put it best when he was saying that hey, let me just have a party now and let me get together and enjoy myself, because that is about as far as we're willing to go when it comes to unity and regionalization.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: And all them think what matters Long time I ain't see Pandey and I really feel like I could see him.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: I wanna see whether I feel like how we going these days.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: You know, i mean, look how manning pass and gone, we can see him.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: So when we come down in Trinidad, we nice line up everything for we set way up in the Hyatt I think Yuma was supposed to have a band launch or something.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: So Hyatt in the UK.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: I stay here.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: Too much security concern or let it go or let it postpone all the day.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: So that seems to be the more important part of the Caribbean.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: But salute, 50 years is a long time.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Any amount of progress is still good, but I think we need to get on our horse where regionalization is considered.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: If we're really serious about being globally competitive and the way West Indies come together there, maybe we better offer it on our own.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: No song will summit up better than this one.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Hikari Band by Ee, from the same place that make the same trip on the same ship.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: So we must push one, for our intention is for a better life in the region for we women and we children.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: That must be the ambition of the Caribbean man, the.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Caribbean man the Caribbean man, you say that the federation was imported quite from England and you're going on for my carifter with the true West Indian flavor.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: But since carifters started running morning, noon and night, all are hearing with just money.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Speech then prime minister giving, but I say no set of money good for my unity, good for all your people need here I get the feeling like one race from the same place that make the same trip on the same ship.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: So we must push one, for our intention is for a better life in the region for we women and we children.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: That must be the ambition of the Caribbean man.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: The Caribbean man.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: The Caribbean man.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Caricum is based in time, the whole Caribbean one blind.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: If we don't know from where we come in, then we clear a plan where we go in.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: That's why some want to become units.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Rather, some want to be socialists and one set of religion to utter the foolishness.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Look a man who don't know history here.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: For no unity.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: How could a man who don't know his rules want to go on and hear all the things?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: that one race from the same place that make the same trip on the same ship.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: So we must push one for our intention is for a better life in the region for we women and we children that must be the ambition of the Caribbean man.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: The Caribbean man, the.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Caribbean man.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: When Stalin put together this last verse, I think he had a week like this week in mind.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: If the rafters now in St Lucia, but the run-carifters, yes, you get in pressure.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: if the rafters are moving, spreading and the carifters are dying slow, then if something the rafters are gone, then politicians will know that there is one race from the same place, that make the same trip on the same ship.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: So they push in one, for our intention is for a better life in the region for the women and the children that must be the ambition of the Caribbean man, the Caribbean man.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: I find some people should invite me to something to knock out the glass.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: I'm working hard, you know what I mean.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: So, julien Rogers, i want to one day host a little career.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: He comes summit when they have summit time and this is what I work.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: This is the kind of thing I work towards them kind of gigs.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: Now, when you talk about Caribbean unity, one of the things I realize this week is if Jamaica, trinidad and some kids put together one side, you might have a chance to win the group.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: That's the kind of Caribbean unity we need.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: We need to come together and join forces.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: You see the importance of regional economic integration if we come together and wait.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: But West Indies might buy a bad example of that.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Listen, west Indies.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: They say West Indies could break a dog heart.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: If we have a West Indies cricket team, you feel it will go the same way.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: I mean sorry, if we have a West Indies football team, you feel it will go the same way as the West Indies cricket team.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: It's really a heart breaking thing.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Talk to all the West Indies fans over the course of this week just to find out if they are right, and you know what I mean, if they will make it, we could all reflect on the glory days of the West Indies and see how bad it was.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe if we start regional football right now we might be in for some glory days up front.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Before I get into Angus, i hear Angus were lost.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: They say before he lost he was looking to step aside.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: But before I get into the discussion of a West Indies football team, i just want to go back to the glory days of West Indies where it took great players.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: It took the top notch player in the world to break down a West Indies team and not no man from Scotland who played golf and have a day.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: What can think beats any West Indies Man from the Netherlands who smoked weed whole day coming and beat West Indies?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: So I tell all you, this episode is heavy.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: It doesn't calypso right.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: A lovely day for cricket Blue skies and gentle breeze.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: The Indians are waiting now to play the West Indies.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: A signal from the Empire.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: The match is going to start.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: The cricket has come on the field.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: They all look very smart.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: They make the West Indies team look so bad.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: We was in all kind of trouble.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: We were in trouble.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: Without a doubt, the real master, just like a wall.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: We couldn't knock a basket at all.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: Not at all.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: You know the West Indies couldn't knock a basket at all.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: They helped to win the series against the West Indies At Sabina Park and Queens Park 158 by Ghanai Norie Ghanai for 95.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: The Indian team is still so bad.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: It was Garbaskar, the real master, just like a wall.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: We couldn't knock a basket at all, not at all.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: You know the West Indies couldn't knock a basket at all.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: That's related.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Ben Katara, gavan, baby Enato, he's right, the song is a great thing.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: The West Indies is on the route to play India.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: My best advice is, if we had to play India coming off our losses, all kind of non-cricketing teams Maybe what we should do is try and angle, scooch that side and carry Molino and them fellas on them and see if they can try the hand over on that side Over here must be able to bowl a ball.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: You see our battle tall there.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: I feel he could run in and he could drop a few.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: But the West Indies is coming, india is coming to the West Indies.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: I don't find it looking good at all.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know who set up these stores.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: We're still at test match.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: But we are two test match to play.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: I think one is in Dominic or somebody and the next one is in Trinidad.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: The other time the oval used to be full.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Now when the oval is full here to play India, people go into the back India.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: They don't try to have some bad habit, people go into the back India against West Indies.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: I don't like it at all.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: And then we have about three, one days and five.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: I figure we best bet is to just focus on the T20s.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know how that will look.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Anyhow, the one day test match and them could be just as short as one day.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: Good luck to the West Indies.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: I should name a few.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: Good luck to the West Indies.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Good luck to the West Indies fans as we approach a week, just like what he's so worried about.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: So they'll have many in right.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: We had a lot of high hopes for Angus.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: We had a lot of high hopes for the Soca Warriors and a lot of high hopes for qualifying for the World Cup, next World Cup.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: But I'm very frightened.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: I'm very frightened.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: We end up in the World Cup through a technicality Nicaragua be the self and we be them.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: Basically, we was in, as they say.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: I mean I celebrate that a lot.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: We beat ups and kids are Trinidad.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: I say, well, alright, we looking good, we looking sharp, we looking sharp, but we be you know.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: I mean Trinidad is Trinidad, you'll sign on them trying to warn me.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: And then we run into Jamaica.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: Jamaica was a complete death trap.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: It was 4-1.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: It was brutal.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: We never look good.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: We never look like we as any game.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: We never look like we had much chances to score.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: We never look attacking.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: We play a lot of defenders in that game that I feel we needed to win And then you say, come on, we got BT Magensui and we get 6.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Rough, it was rough.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: It was rough, it didn't look good at all And all the things that Angus Eve do well to.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: I mean in fairness, as I was reading in some of the Lassana articles and in all the articles, but people are saying that Angus definitely better than Dennis Lawrence and what the next one name Terry Fenwick, for sure, and remember we had a man named Sint Fleet.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: He better than all them fellas.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: But boy, they say it.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: It looked painful, it looked like we signed it.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Have it together And not.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: I always say that one of the reasons I go back Weston is because they don't fight And Trinidad to be go football seems to still have some fight in them.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: But it looking like we do her direction, like we ensure we do, and we, we, we need a striker to where we need a striker.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: I don't think we have enough of a threat up front.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if our coach could do anything about that.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: But inside news, as much as I am an Angus Eve fan and having done the greatest coach of all time is being reported here.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: It says this from Lassana again and why they say Angus Eve has allegedly told players that he will not seek a renewal for his post at Shrindan to become men's national senior team head coach.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: In the wake of his teams he'll be elimination from 2023.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: We'll come to have Gorka.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: There's been no official statement yet from TTF and Eve could not be reached for comment.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: I would not answer neither The 51 year old coaches to the 51 year old coaches.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: Two year term ends with the ongoing competition.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, he was supposed to get up to the goal cup and if he had qualified for goal goal cup and do well he was a gap promotion which I think he do equal.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: If I go up and little league before Copa, i'm a very good but boy Trinidad to be go next senior team engagement is in September and if there's no FIFA and there is no FIFA match window available to prepare, which they basically saying that between now and September we not going to have any games, and if we, if Eve bust out now and we get a new coach preparation time short, you're not going to be able to get the team together If we get a big international coach who could get big names.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: You see how Jamaica, all Jamaica big names come home and play.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: They had the Marie Gray, michael Antonio, upfront Leon Bailey.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: But you see, the thing about it too is I don't know who we have.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: I was going to say if you get big international coach, you could get more big players to come home.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: But like who's who can win, i'm sure we could get who we have out there in the biggest leagues We have the little parents at granola, but in our little on Jail and reprims self, nothing we can get to come back.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, he's uncertain whether either former club sand on Na Prima College coach would have won a second extension to his post anyway.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: So they basically saying he'd busting out before he get fired.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: And then, within a couple hours of that, the Guardian is reporting that heart set for soca warriors return after TNT gold cup exit.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: This is from Nigel Simon I putt St James boy.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: Former TNT soca warriors coach, canada based Stephen Hart is set for return of the helmet of the team as a replacement for the outgoing Angus Eve, the 51 year old Eve, who replaced Englishman Terry Fenwick in 2021 after this country failed to qualify for the 2022 World Cup.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, now I feel like it's a good thing we didn't qualify The 2021 World Cup against Montserrat.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: So he just given me a history based on it, but apparently the rumor now is that, anyway, the way he writes article here it's in song, like no rumor, like he knows something.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: It seems as though he went on to coach Canada and they say he had 20 wins, 10 draws and 15 defeats over 45 matches and then he got hosted from that position And he did win a court case against the TTFF at the time.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: I can't remember if that would be a wrongful dismissal.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Think how he wasn't getting paid.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: We famous for having coaches and not paying them to men when it's getting short pay on a regular basis here.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: But if part of them reported this, it had to be that some kind of offer and acceptance didn't happen and some somehow Eve get the walking papers or he didn't tell them already, according to the sources.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: According to the sources, the decisions are point hard.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: It's a possibility while Kenwin Jones are former national men's team captain and senior women's coach expected to be a member, so heart with Kenwin are part of the thing.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: So I mean Eve completely out.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: Guardian media also learned that Jones recently turned on the women's coaching job to join heart.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, this thing advanced.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: According to the source, angus Eve was a possible target for the job as a coach for the national women's team, but he's now expected to return to duties with TMT, premier League football club, tiger Tanks club Sandal.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: What is Sorsen saying?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: They saying that he was a target for the women's team.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: If he get fired from the men's team, are you going to club football and that way?
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Anyway, i just hope Angus learn on his feet.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: I hope everything goes to them.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: I think we need to continue to do this and develop more local coaches.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: I feel Stephen Hart had something with the team.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: We had a system.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: We had a little to merit.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: The team used to look a little more harder to beat, if not beaten people bad, we used to look a little harder to beat.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: We used to look like we developed in our system and to be fair, even though if we go back and not see anything in this article, right, but the if you also look at the record that's Stephen Hart had with his soca warriors, it was no big, stellar record like we was beaten people and you know what I mean.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: I think they have it here 16 wins, 12 draws and 15 defeats in 43 matches.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: So that's not much different from what Angus was on route to do.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: Or you know what I mean Somebody coaches before he's no Lawrence or no following, like we're talking about Lawrence, like that's a well done.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Insurance Record was a little bad and final course was, but it's not to say that that heart had this great record.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: But what?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: what I used to see with heart a little more is that the team started to look like they was gelling, like we headed somewhere, like we are hard to beat, we showing up in big games.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: So I welcome him back by field as a figure and start back from scratch again.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: And my main concern and I know I should be considered a long-term development of football in the country and all these nice things there.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: But I kind of want to see you qualify for the next World Cup.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think we'll have a better chance than we.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: We probably never gonna have a better chance with USA, mexico and Canada already qualified as well, as they're saying that that might be the first World Cup where instead of I think a World Cup now is 32 teams.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have extra teams added, so Conqueror might actually get six spaces and I see a little bit analysis the other day that was that was heartbreaking without USA, mexico and Canada any mix, right, that means we have the teams who are from number four to number ten should be the ones.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: That is the top six if you take out the top three, right.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: So all the way from four to ten should qualify because we're taking the next best six, right?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: You know Trinidad is 14.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: If I go down any Choga meeting now I can't point out 14 Prime Minister, these guys, i want to know who is these 14 people, who better than Trinidad and Tobago?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: but, boy, steve Mhardt, i hope you come back, i hope you take the work, i hope you do get out bangersland and if he tiff dies the case, we will report on that next week when he sees final things come out.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: But we are real work to do between now and then.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: And somebody, somebody had to be claiming they're on children or they can't just not mind your child.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: We go like Mexico.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: They have a Trinidadian father.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: You don't have a kind of way looking like you from you know.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: I mean you're looking from Kipechimer.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: You have a Kipechimer.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Look, somebody must have a child out there who could play football.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: We could add to the mix here, because even though you might want to blame a coach for a game, right, i just find, like our players, i know what it is about.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Let me come out of this episode.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: I really play in this last song in this episode as a reminder for myself, right, because this, this episode, happened to have a lot, of, a lot of downside.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: We waste only West Indies.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: We talk about Trinidad and them, who, who distraught about the, the, the SEA results, and and try to get them some encouraging words to bounce back.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: We talk about Cary Common.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: We glad faith, but, boy, the downside, looking high to when the carry comes out, because I'm them first looking high when every picture is here, then the men looking high that.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: I found this on the web for a series, a series, nobody asks you nothing.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: They looking a little bit nice when they take the little sour things too.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: So I want to play this song again, one of the greatest calypso's ever written, written, composed.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: put together it has some songs, is a perfect song, and this might be one of them, just as a reminder that again, going back to going back to the children.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: Even the West Indies fans, everybody listen.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: Sometimes when you're rebuilding, you're rebuilding.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: I talking to myself here, right, sometimes when you're rebuilding, you're rebuilding and we must remember that, regardless of how much times we stumble, the aim is to get up and dust off your knees and keep going forward, because your reality is that anything would get in.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: It's a easy to get and any story that we're telling have plenty ups and downs, so I'll even only have a safe week, have a good week.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: The water levels back high.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: Only Yankees go back to work.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: They'll be trying to make no short weekend in people place.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: I do the right thing and go to work, and everybody else in Caribbean who enjoyed the 4th of July holiday, all right, i'll enjoy only one upon we, but we have about 25 holiday again for the rest of the year, but I want to leave all this one as a reminder that no matter how much time you bruise that knee or bust that Achilles, here the bandit up and go again right.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: I see footprints that man have left on the sun while walking through times.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: I see through sufferer ambition, figments of our imaginations, and I ask myself when militant?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: when militant, it is plain to see.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: The universe of this land is not bountiful as it was, simply because, in its quest for success, nothing stands in man's way.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: All rivers run dry, soon the birds will fly, the mountains will be no longer high, and when I really think of it, i just wonder why, oh why.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I see charity deplored, equal rights totally ignored, wisdom and ingenuity walking in a quarter simply to afford such inventions as to monocle warfare and environmental warfare.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: And I wonder now, where do we go from here?
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: profits everywhere gaze upon the horizon and declare that judgment will come as the savage hands of unscrupulous men file everything passed by.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Time is running out as we eat and drink, species at the brink of being extinct, and I think no one can deny that the price of progress is high just remember that price of progress high, right, sometimes the price of progress is a few coaches that will go through.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: We have to get about 25 gold.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: We have to alter about six over all.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: That is the price of progress.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: I see consciousness as bait, as the day.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: We live recklessly money, make egos inflate and thereby create a toad.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: You learn state.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: I see a struggle between the sexes.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: You hang up on all complexes.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Now the question is right in context what shall be next?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: I've already seen this word have come.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Divided between race, color, freedom, class and some of the things the scripture predicts jutefully come to pass soil that wouldn't fear children, making children to be a part of this growing mass.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: And I ask if this is progress, oh lord, will it last?