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Stand Your Ground Confusion, Karmelo Anthony case revisited · The Flo Show, no filter

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_04: Wake up, wake up, wake up.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's the flow show no filter.
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  SPEAKER_04: Back for another crazy episode.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, before I get into all that, let's get my ass off.
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• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: Wait away, uh, wait a way, stop, wait, no, wait, stop selling.
• 1:13
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• 2:16
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody, what's going on?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_04: Who we got in here?
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: Robin said, Good morning, everybody in chat.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: Denise, good morning.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_04: Congratulations to the Knicks.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_04: We even got some Knicks updates.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_04: A lot went on out there uh in the Knicks.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_04: Uh a lot went on yesterday in the Knicks.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_04: Well, not yesterday, but over the weekend with the Knicks winning the championships.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_04: Congratulations, Denise.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_04: Your team did their thing.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_04: Knicks and five.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_04: As we join this live, what's up?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_04: Enoch, Elise, what's going on with you?
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_04: Laura, Sharon, Robin.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we all in here.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_04: We all in here.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_04: A lot to get caught up on.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_04: Man, I got so much shit to do this week.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_04: How many of y'all?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_04: If you got a lot of shit to do this week, put a one in the chat.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_04: So I won't feel alone.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_04: Put a one in the chat.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_04: If you got a lot to do this week, put a one in the chat.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_04: I got a lot to do this week.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_04: Enoch says she's the day she's enjoying football.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_04: C.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_04: Tuxer, he got a lot of shit to do this week.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_04: Sharon got a lot of shit to do this week.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't feel alone, man.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_04: I got so much shit to do this week, it don't even make no damn sense.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_04: I don't feel it.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_04: I don't feel it.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_04: But uh, man, I think Diddy for sure, they are for sure bringing those charges down on Diddy, y'all.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know when, but I'm hearing so much news about Diddy and and and and and and what he got going on.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_04: They are trying to bring, and and like I said, it might even be re looking like Rico.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_04: It might not just be looking for no damn sexual assault type of things.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_04: They they might be bringing another Rico down on Diddy.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna get into that a little bit.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_04: But uh man, we still can't put the bed the Carmelo Anthony case.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's it's a lot going on.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_04: The country is probably more divided than I've seen in a long, long, long, long time.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_04: Which in these types of cases, you can't just put on the bed, you gotta talk through them.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_04: Gotta talk through them.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: Cause it it's sad right now.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we got more minors with different lawyers.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_04: It ain't just Busby.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_04: So they can't just attack Tony Busby.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: They can't just attack Tony Busby.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_04: They're gonna have to they're gonna have to deal with three different lawyers and two of the and the lawyers are part of the team that has that is dealing with the LA DA that are trying to file the charges on Diddy.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_04: Diddy about to be, and I think Diddy know it.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think Diddy know it, his ass is grass right now.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_04: We heard nothing on that appeal.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_04: Nothing on that appeal yet.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_04: Boosie donated 500,000.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_04: To where?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: To to Carmelo Anthony to what?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't hear about that.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, congratulations, Portia.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_04: Portia's Portia said England playing on Wednesday and her daughter turns 18 on Sunday.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_04: Congratulations, Portia.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: Enjoy.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_04: And that is a major accomplishment.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_04: Your daughter's an adult now, or about to be an adult, making adult decisions.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody say everybody, congratulations, everybody.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_04: Shout out Portia for her amazing week that she got coming up.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um wow.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well I'm thinking about something, y'all.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_04: That case is is is is just it's got our our our our country in a wreck.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_04: People are people are threatening each other.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_04: If you whatever side you on, a person threatening the other side, mainly if you supporting Carmelo Anthony, and especially if you white, if you white, something about if you white and and supporting Carmelo Anthony and not and don't think that that was the right decision, that right verdict, the guilty verdict of him being guilty of murder.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_04: If you white and don't support that, they are coming for your head.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_04: Like I've seen a couple white content creators that that don't agree with the verdict and been and have been speaking out, they get death threats left and right.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_04: Um it's been amazing how crazy, how how how how how volatile this situation has become.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like we did something wrong.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't say it, he said it.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm gonna tell you, this is I'm starting to get to the bottom of why there is so much uh division and why why people are so on two different sides of the of the of the globe or two different sides of the spectrum of this case, and I've figured it out.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_04: A big reason why people are so divided and no, and each side doesn't understand the other side.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_04: If you're for Carmelo, they don't understand why, and they say you are behind a murderer, and if you're against Carmelo, then we feel like you then we feel like you're a racist, and the rules are different because we look at different cases where stand your ground, where you are allowed to basically come back whatever force you need to feel like to stay to stay alive and whatever, whatever.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_04: But the more I start hearing the facts and the story and what happened and all the different stories and all the different scenarios, there are so many different stories.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_04: So what I found out is it depends on what story you believe, and that is why people are arguing so much.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_04: Because if you believe that he asked Carmelo at that that uh Austin Metcalf, if you believe Austin Metcalf asked Carmelo Anthony to uh leave the tent, and then Carmelo Anthony said, touch me, and you see what happened.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_04: And if you believe that Austin Metcalf literally only just touched Carmelo Anthony's shoulder, just literally just touched it.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_04: If you think that's what happened, because that's what some stories are saying, as I told you, it's a million different stories.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_04: If you believe he just touched his shoulder, and then Carmelo Anthony just stabbed him to death off of that, then I understand.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: But that's some of you believe that's what happened, and that's why y'all calling him a murderer for the most part.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_04: And then, so when people say that we don't think the verdict was right or just think the verdict was wrong, um, you look those people looking at us like, oh, you you behind a murderer, but see, you don't understand, we don't for the most part, and I'm speaking for me, we don't believe he just touched his shoulder, and then Carmelo Anthony just stabbed him to death.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_04: That ain't what happened in my mind, and so like I said, if people would quit being so egocentric and thinking that the only way that they see this case going, the only way they see the what happened was the only way they seen it happen, and and and they only think it only happened one way, then you're gonna you're gonna be up here screaming and hollering.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_04: But if you grow up and open your mind and realize, hey, there we weren't there.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_04: There are different scenarios that could have played out, and which is why people have different opinions.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't agree with the verdict, right?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm also not screaming and making racial threats and calling people stupid who disagree with me.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_04: That is my problem.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_04: See how that works?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_04: We haven't been privy to no camera footage, we don't know what the fuck happened, none of us, we weren't there, and again, we haven't seen video footage, so we are all guessing.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_04: So again, I don't agree with the verdict, but guess what?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_04: I'm also not screaming and going crazy and and threatening people's lives and racially talking about people and down in other people because they agree with the verdict.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_04: Because guess what?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_04: I wasn't there, but you the the people who are going crazy and calling people names, calling people stupid, calling people this or that, and going crazy because somebody has a different opinion of what they think took place and what they think is fair.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_04: You need to grow up.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_04: You weren't there, you don't know, none of us know exactly what happened.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_04: We are all expected to make our own judgment and guesstimate of was Carmelo Anthony, did he fear if he was in danger?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_04: Did he fear, did he fear if his life was in danger?
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_04: None of us know that, man.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: We all guess.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_04: There's no way you can sit at home on your fucking couch and say he didn't fear for his life.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_04: How the fuck do you know?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_04: And at the same token, for me to feel like he was in fear for his life, I don't fucking know.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_04: But if you look and pay attention to what's going on, everybody on each side act like they were there and know exactly what happened.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_04: And if you don't agree with what they're saying, then you gotta be stupid.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta be this, you gotta be supporting a murderer, you gotta be this and that.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_04: That is just not fair.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_04: We gotta grow up as a society, man, and just because somebody disagrees don't mean they they dumb or they stupid or they rocking with murderers.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes people have different scenarios, they have different beliefs on how the shit played out.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's just bottom line.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_04: You can't say whether he was in fear of his life or not if you weren't there, and we don't even have video footage that we've seen.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_04: Now, I've saw some people who have saw the video footage and they spoke on it, and uh and uh and the people that seen the footage they are saying they believe in self-defense, but they saw the footage.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't, but it's just amazing to me that on something with a million different stories, and we're talking about two kids involved, two kids, remember that these are two kids who both made childlike decisions and both paid the paid and ultimate cost.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_04: Austin Metcalf lost his life in the physical form, and and and and and uh listen, just we know witness testimony.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yo, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_04: Let me tell you this.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_04: So I like this.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_04: We're having a healthy discovery.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_04: They they are that that's on both sides.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_04: If you think he's guilty and you're black, then you're a rat.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_04: Right, exactly.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_04: And then we do know on witness testimony, but what I'm saying is that witness testimony is skewed because everybody who's on the witness testimony was from the side of the school, for the side of Austin.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_04: Ask a bunch of my friends.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_04: If I if if if I get caught up in a if I get caught up in something, ask a bunch of my friends what happened, or a bunch of people who know me.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_04: Most of the time, they're not going to throw me under the bus.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: So, witness testimony and a horrible defense.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_04: If you if I'm just a very open-minded person who I do have a strong opinion, but I'm very open-minded enough to know that I don't know everything, and if you weren't there, you don't.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_04: Which is why I can stand ten toes on what I believe, but I also don't go crazy.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: If you think it was a if you if you agree with the verdict, that's your that's your choice.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm not jumping up and down and going crazy about it because there is a lot of unknowns in this case and a lot of biases in this case.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_04: I just believe that a little dude like that on enemy grounds with four, two, three, four people bigger than him, I believe he could have been in fear for his life.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't I don't I don't see what's so hard about that.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_04: If you don't believe it, you don't believe it.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is it's too many people uh standing up and cussing people out and threatening people's lives for somebody who for people who have who weren't there, and all you're doing is going off somebody else's word, and you're doing all of that, you threatening lives, and you're just going off a he say, she say.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_04: Now, if we had video and we all could see video, that would be a different story.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_04: Kind of like the Cassie Diddy video.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_04: Let me use the Cassie Diddy video as an example.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_04: If that wasn't captured on video, we would, and they just just just said whatever happened.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_04: We would have people swearing up and down, Diddy didn't put his hands on her.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_04: Remember, Diddy never admitted it until the video came out, and and we would have been arguing.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_04: You'd have been had the people saying that Diddy didn't do nothing to her and she just wants money.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_04: Then you'd have had the people arguing like we don't never believe victims, all of that.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_04: But guess what?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_04: The video's footage and the video evidence shut all of that down.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_04: Because we were able to look at video evidence, we know what the fuck happened, and then now we have something more concrete that we can argue about.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_04: But in this case, for some strange reason, they won't let us see.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_04: In the Carmelo Anthony case, they won't let us see the video, and so we are judging strictly off of witness testimony.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_04: Who is old enough and been in the trending toppings enough to remember the Trayvon Martin case?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_04: This episode is about understanding each other.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_04: This this episode ain't about trolling and and threatening each other's lives and all that.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_04: Look, y'all, we all we all got we all got lives to live.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_04: All got bills to pay and children to raise.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not but getting bent out of shape and threatening people's lives over a case.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know anybody involved.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_04: I pray for everybody involved.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_04: I nobody should ever lose a life in no capacity.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: There's no coming back from that.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_04: I never wish death on anybody.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it's sad, no, especially kids who haven't even had a chance to live their life yet.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_04: But who remembers the Trayvon Martin case?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm gonna just give me, I'm just giving people who who who are here for understanding and not arguing and fighting and bickering like we're kids.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_04: If you're here to try to understand, that's who I'm talking to.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not talking to the people who just want to argue and be racist and and and and threaten people and and talk shit about everybody.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not here.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_04: That's not even my point.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_04: I don't care to even get into that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to come to an understanding where people should at least understand everything ain't about being evil.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_04: Sometimes people just have a different opinion, and I'm gonna explain to you why.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_04: Who remembers the Trayvon Martin case?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_04: Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, George Zimmerman.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_04: All right, this for many of us, this was the that was the first case that I covered before I was a content creator, meaning I looked that case up and down.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: I I I was intrigued by the case and everything.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_04: Well, in that case, we got, and I'm talking for black people, many black people, we got a crash course in Stand Your Ground.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_04: Before that case, we didn't think as a whole, we didn't think you could kill an unarmed person one-on-one and get away with it.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_04: But it happened.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_04: Not gonna go into the whole story.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: We all know the story, but George Zimmerman followed a young black man who just went to the store grabbing some Skittles and a juice.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_04: The police told George Zimmerman, leave that mail alone.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_04: This is all documented.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: The police told George Zimmerman to leave him alone.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: George Zimmerman still continued to follow this guy, Trayvon Martin.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_04: To the point where they run into each other.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_04: Now, now George Zimmerman is instigating this whole thing.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_04: Trayvon Martin doesn't even know that a George Zimmerman exists because he's being stalked and doesn't know it until he finally realizes, like, hey, this weird guy is following me around.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: Now Trayvon Martin don't know what the hell is going on.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: George Zimmerman following the police, and I already told George Zimmerman do not follow that guy.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_04: George Zimmerman, it turns into an altercation one-on-one.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_04: One person has a gun, the other person doesn't.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_04: Trayvon Martin had no weapon.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_04: Somehow they get into a grabbing and a skirmish, and then George Zimmerman kills Trayvon Martin dead.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_04: Now, at that time, everybody and their mama thought that was a clear-cut case of murder.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_04: Everybody would have bet they bottom dollar, this is murder.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_04: And then we find out that he's found innocent.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: And he's found innocent because of a law called Stand Your Ground.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_04: Where if you are in fear for your life, and you unalive somebody, you are innocent.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Now we had to take that on the chin.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_04: Now, can y'all imagine so so if if you think put a I want I'm I'm curious.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_04: So when you when you add up that George Zimmerman case, put a one in the chat if you believe George Zimmerman was innocent.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: Put a one in the chat if you think George Zimmerman was innocent.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: And I'll and follow me because I'm making a point.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_04: For those who might not understand why people are confused about this fucking law.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all have to realize these laws and how these laws are implemented and how these laws are carried out.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: That is the enemy.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_04: See, this is the part where I'm we gotta be smarter than this system.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_04: Don't let the system that moves goalposts and has has us unclear about how this fucking law works, don't have that arguing with me and you.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_04: That is where I get frustrated because I haven't had one person be able to tell me that George Zimmerman was innocent.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: So if we just saw if we just saw a man stalk another black man, and the police told him not to, told him to stop, and he continued to do it anyway, and then shoots this poor kid dead and is found innocent because of the stand your ground law, and the main reason was because he said he felt fear for his life.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_04: Now he followed Trayvon Martin all around and then says he's in fear for his life.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_04: Do you know how many people were hurt behind that verdict and could not believe that you could get away with unaliving somebody in that manner after you stalked them and after the police told you to leave them alone and you following them, they not paying you no attention, and then you kill them and you're innocent.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we as a people, black and white, I'm not even just talking about that verdict hurt a lot of people because none of us want to see kids dead.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to see Austin Metcalf die.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want to see nobody die, especially no kids.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_04: They haven't even lived their life yet.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_04: I don't care if you're black, white, Chinese, Asian, Hispanic, I don't want to see nobody die.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_04: No kids die.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_04: So that verdict not only hurt black people, but it hurt anybody that cares about kids who just minding their business going to the store, and because of some rambunctious adult, they're not here no more.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_04: So this is where I want to land this plane.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_04: So now let's fast forward to Carmelo Anthony and what's going on.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: Now, same case.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_04: You can't be mad at those who can believe he may have been in fear for his health and safety in life at that moment.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_04: Especially if we just saw what happened in the Trayvon Martin case, where it stands your ground.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: If you are in fear for your life, you can defend yourself with as much force as needed or whatever.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_04: So now in this situation, some uh Austin and and his and his friends and his brother approached this uh Carmelo Anthony about moving out to leaving the tent.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_04: Um, Carmelo Anthony uh could have been in fear.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_04: He's he's you talking about anywhere they saying what four to five, six people?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_04: And you talking about one person?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Where is he?
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: They say where's he tuck?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, we waiting on him.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: Somebody say right here, somebody said there are two or four witnesses that are saying that they saw a skill for photograph where where there was whelps on mellow, and then they saw another photograph of a steel where they the airbrushed the whelps off.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, it's just so many different scenarios.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_04: And so when you got so many different people saying so many different things, and then you got the Trayvon Martin, uh George Zimmerman case where I mean it's no more plain as day.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_04: I thought I thought I thought what George Zimmerman did to Trayvon Martin was was was murdered every day of the week twice on Sundays.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_04: I I I mean, I thought that.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_04: And then we come to this case where we feel like the same the same fundamental was in place, and it wasn't even manslaughter, it was just flat out first degree murder.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: And so whether you believe and you know, are with the verdict or against the verdict, if you look at all of that and really look at what happened in the Trayvon Martin case, if you have an open mind, you should be able to at least understand why some people you should be able to understand why some people believe the other way.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, shoot, oh yeah, let me put the link in there for Sea Tuck.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_04: My bad sea tucked out.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_04: So fire glory, that's what I'm saying.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_04: For those, I would think Fire Glory says he was in fear of a team walking away from him.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, he used to stay on your ground as leverage.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: Fuck out of here.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: So imagine.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: So fire glory.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_04: So this is what I'm saying to those who who who think and don't understand why there are many people who believe that see, she said she says it doesn't help black defenders, but that's why, like, if you are on the side and don't understand why people think that the verdict was wrong, you need to look at the Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman case, explain that to us, and then that'll let us know.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_04: Then then then explain to us how that is self-defense, but you don't see how Carmelo Anthony's situation is.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I want to know.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: I want to know, I want to know the differentiating factors too.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's what and that's what I want to know.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: And that's why I said, like, even if you believe like, like we always say, everybody got right to their opinion.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_04: We wasn't there, but even if you believe, even if you believe that was the right verdict, even if you're one of those people, right?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_04: I don't see how you can see can see what happened in the Trayvon Martin case and George Zimmerman case and not understand why there are so many people who do think the verdict was wrong.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and ain't had I haven't had one person break it down to me yet and give me the major difference.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't had one person do it.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, because like like again, like just as everybody, like we say, just like we entitled to our opinion, that that should go both ways.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: We entitled to our way of thinking, and they entitled to their way of thinking.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: But we able to, if I'm laying out actual key points in the case and the whole situation and the ordeal that's been presented, as your I won't even say argument, as your debate as to what I'm saying, why shouldn't you have to lay out the same key points?
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: So compare notes and come to some type of common resolution, like you're supposed to do.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_04: What did Chicago say?
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_04: Those are two different cases.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, what's the difference?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: It was an aggressor and and a and somebody else.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what yeah, what what I want somebody to let me out.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_04: Zimmerman had injuries to show the jury mellow didn't.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_04: Nah, that ain't got nothing to do with ain't nowhere in the in in the stand your ground law do it say and a person has this injury that fear for life, yeah, it's fear, it ain't injuries, doesn't say injuries.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_04: We going by the law.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_04: Nice try, uh Chicago, but that ain't it.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then, like you, and then you can't really take it upon yourself to gauge what you may think fear is, if you can't really put yourself in that category.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: That he they not like it's pointed out, they not even from there, they from Louisiana.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_03: So, what if before they move from Louisiana to Texas, he probably got a whole bunch of motherfuckers.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, better be careful out there.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_03: Them motherfuckers be doing XYZ out in Texas, and so he he fucking scared.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: You don't, you don't, and he because he don't know what to expect.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: That and I don't don't even take that as anything concrete.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's just that's just a scenario.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_04: If I got six people about to jump me, let's just say a whole different case.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_04: I got six people that just run up on me about to jump me.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_04: They got me cornered in the alley, and I and I got a gun and I killed one of them.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_04: I ain't gonna have no injuries, but I damn sure was you could you know I feared for my life if I got people about to jump.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: I had to pull a gun up.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't have to have a uh scratch on me, yeah, because I don't want to have no fucking scratch on me.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: You you you wait for the injuries to come your ass dead at that point if you outnumber like just being real being realistic, like being realistic.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: That's why I said it ain't it's just it's just this, it ain't even picking size.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if if it if he wasn't black, if he was another if he was another white kid, I would be saying the same shit same thing, so like it's not it's not about those picking size if it was white kid and and it was black kids trying to kick him out and and and and tell them to go here, go there, they fall five D, and one of them got stabbed up for being all aggressive on him, it'd be the same thing, and then like and you in this in this like if you an individual that ain't never been in that predicament, not even just that alone.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_03: If you ain't never been in a situation where you outnumbered and you know you get into this motherfucking debacle that you about to get into, that would where you at, you ain't gonna get no type of help or protection.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: You whatever go down is gonna go down, and you just gonna be at the ass end of it.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: And it's really fight or flight.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: If you ain't never been in them type situations, you can't really comment on that type of type, because you really don't know.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: You can know what somebody or some other people told you or some shit like that, but you don't know how I feel to really be like fight or flight.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I gotta get out of here.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_03: Because if I don't, it's gonna get ugly.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because like just okay, another hypothetical scenario.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: What if it was just no pocket knife or whatever involved?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_03: What if it was they were just throwing the motherfuckers?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_03: And he outnumbered and he getting stumped out on the fucking bleachers and all of this shit, and we reporting that.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_03: When that hypothetically, what that's that's a what because it didn't happen.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_03: So don't nail me to the cross board.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I think I'm being a free party.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_04: But I don't know, and like I said, and see another thing, I'm I'm looking at this.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_04: Look, I'm looking at this too, and I and this is why I I I I love see the biggest part of the you know, the biggest part of the debate, and this is why I am good at at not only understanding my side, but understanding the other side because I can take myself out and understand different people have different experiences.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_04: So check this out.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_04: I like this, I like this statement by Chicago.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all are looking at this, y'all, y'all aren't looking at this logically.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_04: Slow down and think.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_04: He was at a school event in front of coaches and parents and other students.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_04: Start talking from that perspective.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_04: We did.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_04: So I like that point, Chicago, right?
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_04: So you using that to say that he was there, but how about Austin Metcalf and everybody who was pressing, they were there too, and they were around coaches, parents, and it was at a school event, which means you had a school event, you don't do the policing.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know how long, how long it been, how I ain't been in high school in a long time, but I know when I was in high school, I went to Shaker.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_04: We didn't run shit, we didn't tell nobody you could be in trouble if you tell the motherfuckers where they can be and not be.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like you had to go to a faculty person.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: You couldn't be like, oh, see Tuck, you can't sit here, and then and now I'm pressing you to where you got to sit and where you could be.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's what this coach is for, the faculty and all that.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_04: So it worked both ways.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_04: So, right, you're right.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_04: He was at a school event in front of coaches and parents and other students.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: So, where the fuck were they, and why didn't they handle this thing?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_03: Where was the coach this piece?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_04: Where were they at?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_04: This peaceful school event you talking about, it ain't like that.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_04: We got to go off what really happened.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_04: This sounds good, and this is what the point me and C Tuck been making is where is the structure from the school, where is the security, where is the the rules, and who enforcing these rules?
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_03: Because it looked like the kids are policing themselves at this peaceful school event that we're talking about, and then and then not only that, like you can't really go based off of the times that motherfuckers grew up in.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: You can't go based off of how it was when you was in high school or when I was in high school, nothing like that.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's a different day and age where most of these motherfuckers in high school is running around with grown man guns and type shit.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: We gotta think from these motherfuckers running around like Grand Theft Auto in real life.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: So you so if you want to keep thinking with that aged way of thinking and not come to terms as to what the fuck is really.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: Going on out here now, so you can really combat this shit, you at a disadvantage in yourself.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_03: Even on the policing side.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_04: It's sad.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, people, we all come from different backgrounds, different walks of life.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um, like I said, I I use myself as an example.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_04: When we went to events, you know, I went to Shaker, which was a suburb school, but my cousins went to more of an urban school.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_04: And guess what?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_04: When they came, when they went when my one cousin moved up to the suburbs, they still had that trauma of where they came from.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_04: And he still was going around, had his little pocket knife on him.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_04: Now he ain't never had to stab nobody, but he carried it around for protection.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's my cousin.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: And then if something was to happen, you'd be like, Why are you at Shaker with the da-da-da-da-da?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: You don't know you.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_04: So if you don't understand different walks of life and where people come from, you're not gonna understand this.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_04: If you only see it from one point of view, if you only see it from one point of view, then you're not gonna see the other side of how it can happen.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: Even though that one point of view is how it it generally is supposed to be.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: That's just like just like I told like me and my homeboy be telling, yeah, we grew up in the hood and stuff.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: We grew up underneath these principles, but the majority of the world does not abide by hood principles.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, we want our kids to go to these schools and these higher-ranked school districts, them not in the hood.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, so if we moving out to these communities, we have to conduct ourselves as not no gang member or whatever, mm, whatever type of street neighborhood member you want to call yourself.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_03: Can't conduct yourself out there like that.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: Because you're gonna that's how you're gonna get sunk and you're gonna get tricked up out the streets.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta conduct yourself under civilian principles to where you may have been you've been used to or accustomed in to be in the one area where if you slap somebody, y'all about to throw them.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: You go, you in this nicer area, you slap somebody, they call 911 and press an assault charges like they're supposed to do.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_04: So it what we need to be doing, and what we need to be doing while we all arguing is we need to be letting kids and letting people know how important it is to let security handle shit, man.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_04: Period.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_04: Or keep doing the same thing and trying to figure out why how it ain't right and this ain't right.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_04: The bottom line is the bottom line is ain't nobody gonna people gonna protect themselves, people gonna have guns, people gonna have knives.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_04: If you want to live long and give yourself the best chance out here, it do not go looking for trouble, do not handle stuff that's out of your control.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know why nobody wants to say see, my if you really care, like I care about you know what I would tell my son, I would tell my son, if somebody, if his students or whatever doing something they ain't supposed to be doing, or you feel like it's wrong, go get a teacher.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_04: That's the lesson because because if he did that nothing happens, but you wanna you wanna think, you wanna we wanna act like it's okay for kids to handle grown-up shit, and then now we look back, people have lost lives.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_04: We got uh uh 40, 35 years, uh Carmelo and thing, all this happened.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_04: But if you look at where it started at, the route, it started by Austin going over there to tell him where he the fuck can sit at.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_04: That's where it started at.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_04: That's where their whole their whole engagement happened off of Austin and his boys trying to tell another kid where they could sit at.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_03: And my even my mama, like even she'd tell me, like, going to school, she like somebody doing something to you, let your teacher know.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_03: Let your teacher know what's going on, and you put the accountability and you put the ball in their court.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, minute they don't do something and they keep going, you got the right to defend yourself, and then you recute.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's how you cover yourself.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_03: My mama always told me that.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: Now, listen, and I like to this this what this is why I told you people like on the other side, they just literally have a mental block.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_04: Like Chicago, I'm glad he's in this chat because he's the perfect example of who I'm who I'm talking about in this whole episode.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_04: Like Melo wasn't a baby, he wasn't in the right section.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_04: Do you really we really trying to justify him not being in the right section?
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_04: Is why it that cause for all this, it's cause for going over there telling somebody where to sit.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_04: Man, come on, man, wake up.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_03: But then not only that, they said that he's seen somebody that he knew.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_03: That that's my point.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_03: And he went and sat next to somebody that he knew and started chopping it with them.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: So so to add to what you're saying, C Tuck, my point is we can't even get into that where he was sitting at that that that that should have been left alone.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_04: Why is that so hard to say?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_04: If if if if Chicago sitting somewhere that he chose to sit at to get out the rain, if a kid comes over him telling where the hell he's gonna sit at, Chicago ain't moved.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: If see, if if I'm sitting, if I'm getting out the rain and I'm under a tent, ain't no assigned seats, and and then hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_04: And then on top of that, we already that they already said that he could have sat there.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not even getting to that.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_04: We they've already said he could have been sitting there, they've already made that uh public.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_04: Ain't no assigned seats, ain't no this and that.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_04: He could and had a right to be sitting there, they've already said that.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_04: So you coming over there enforcing a law that don't even that ain't even a law or a rule, and here we are, but nobody wants to look at that, and that's why we and that's why the next kid is gonna go up and do the same thing and put his life in danger for no fucking reason.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_04: Because we not even saying, like, hold on, this is a fucked up situation, but going forward, y'all, don't even put your, don't do, do, do, do your job, don't do other people's job.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_04: It's a reason why you have security and their job is to enforce rules, because they are prepared for that.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_04: I don't want my son, I don't want C Tucks kids, nobody in the chat, I don't want none of our kids at no event feeling like they gotta be the police.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_04: At all.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_04: That is where it went wrong right then.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_04: Because as far as people carrying weapons, you can't control that.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta tell your you can't control who got a weapon, who got who's gonna use the weapon, who gonna have you can't control that.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_04: But guess what?
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_04: You can control you can control what you do, you can control you standing minding your business and telling some type of authority.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_04: You can control that.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_04: You can't control if the next person got a knife or if the next person got a gun, and if they're gonna feel any kind of way about you doing X, Y, Z to them and what they might do.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_04: You can't control that, but you can control yourself, and you can control not putting yourself in harm's way for free and for no reason.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_04: That is what I wish people would would would learn.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_04: So now we don't have the next kid going up to kids, posseing up and doing all this, and then now we losing lives, and then now we arguing about who should when it just leave well enough alone.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_04: That's all you had to do, but it's too hard.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's I think it's just even too hard for people who are on that side to even admit that.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_04: They don't even want to talk about that.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_04: He keeps talking about like he lost his life.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_04: Somebody being in the wrong section is not worth losing your life about, right?
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_04: So they sit up here and be talking about he knew he wasn't in the right section.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_04: So you're gonna lose, you're gonna put your life on the line for that.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_03: Like I I think, I think his life was worth more than a seat underneath a tent.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_04: There you go.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_04: I agree a hundred times.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_04: His life was more, Austin Metcalf's life was more worth way more than than than getting into a skirmish about where somebody's sitting at, man.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't see how why is that so hard to understand for people.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_04: Why is that so hard to understand?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_04: We it's the same thing with George Zimmerman.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_04: George Zimmerman did the same exact thing, except he was the one that killed the person.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_04: He caused that and instigated that whole interaction.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_04: He did.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_04: And and and and trayvon martin lost his life because of it.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_04: If George Zimmerman just would have gone on home, Trayvon Martin would have gone on home.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_03: See, he was already on his way home.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what I said.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_04: He was already on his way there, and so that's the thing.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_04: I'm saying, like, y'all, tell these kids, man, and just tell people in general, mess.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_04: Don't you because you don't know who got what, man.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not, I'm not doing it.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_04: I'm definitely not gonna be telling people where they can be, how they can be, and where they need to go, and then getting all in putting my hand, whatever.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_04: It it went way too far.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_04: It went way too far, man.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_04: And and and and the more I uh the facts come out, and then that not to mention, you know, we got all types of different stories.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_04: The people in the courtroom, the the white lady, I don't know if you've seen the white lady that said um that uh she saw the video, and from what she saw, he fell on the night.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know, so I'm not I'm not like spreading this as facts, but this white lady was in the courtroom, and she said, from what she saw, he fell on the night.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't, you know what I mean?
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_04: I it's just so many different stories.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_04: I just wish we would just learn to, like I said, first of all, learn that it ain't us that that we need to be arguing with, it's this system that got us arguing and the inconsistencies of this system, and and and and it, but it has us arguing with each other and wanting to threaten each other's life.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_04: But it's the system and the inconsistencies of this system that's the problem.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: And that's no, well, that that's what I said.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's the that was the purpose of the whole thing, period.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: To to to initiate things and incite shit like this.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_03: To have us argue.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: Just I mean, just like the same shit with with Brianna Taylor, George Floyd, uh to Tamir, all of them.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: That that's what that that's what this that's what this meant for.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: On some Psyop type shit.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like the more I seen that, I seen a lot of stuff over the weekend, the more I seen, I'm just like, you know what?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's just it's just totally unfair how this system they get to just do whatever they want, hide their hand, and but then we on the front line arguing and and and threatening each other and want to kill each other and all this when it's the system.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_04: And they and they get they get no flack, though.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_04: You notice that the system ain't nobody really arguing or calling out the system with all these inconsistencies and all this all this favoritism and all this.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_04: There's no way you, I'm sorry, there's no way you can get me to understand that uh um that like like okay, like this person said, people are not even thinking Melo was 140 pounds, the other guy was 218 pounds, and it was multiples of them.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_04: Like it was like from what they're saying, it was like four of them, and two of them was over 200 pounds for sure, but I think all of them was over 200 pounds.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, how can you not believe that it's possible?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, I ain't there, I can't say for sure exactly what happened.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not saying, oh yeah, look, man, just the way I seen it, like I didn't see it.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I ain't see it.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_04: But if I'm just judging off what I've seen in the past from stand your ground, and then judging on the fact that Carmelo didn't come initiate nothing, it ain't like he came in there looking for Austin and like talking shit and starting something.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_04: He came in there sitting down minding his business with his friend that invited him in there, right?
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_04: C tuck, didn't you say he was invited?
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_04: And then Austin and his boys who are bigger go over there telling him where he needs to go and this and that, and put his hands on.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_04: Now, how far it went, how far the scuffle went, how much that's just all for speculation.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_04: We don't know, but I believe I can see out somebody as small as him in a white town where white people got white privilege, you know, even to this day.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_04: If I if if if if I get into it and it and I get into it with a white person, nine times out of ten, when the police come, I feel like they're gonna have an advantage.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_04: Just keeping it real.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_04: If you don't live that life, then you don't understand that.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_04: I got I run a legitimate business.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_04: I remember one time we had a discrepancy about a job, and the white lady called the police.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_04: We were in the right, the police came so much on us.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_04: The only reason that that we either get end up getting a fair shake is because the sergeant came, and the sergeant was was would looked at everything for what it was and straighten the whole scenario out.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_04: But if you don't live that life, like if you don't understand, you won't understand that.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_04: Why he feel why he think that this is what we deal with, and we deal with it every day, all day.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_04: Police get behind us.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_04: We more nervous, we nervous.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all not really, you know what I'm saying?
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like so, it's like you gotta understand it's just two different worlds we come from, and it's maybe it's hard to understand, but it it is two different worlds, yeah.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_04: For sure, which is why me and C Tuck and others around here can understand it's possible that he was in fear for his life.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I I I I totally see that as a strong possibility because I've been in them type of scenarios, I've been at basketball games where we were way out and stow, and and and and then some stuff go down, and you realize you super outnumbered.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_04: Luckily, it didn't ever go that far, but I've been in a scenario where you you getting into it and you realize, like, well, shit, we we we we like the only ones out here, yeah.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_04: And so that's why I can see it, but like I said, I still am open-minded enough to know that people who agree with the verdict.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I'm not gonna kill y'all either.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_04: If you if you just if that's what you think happened, I can't help with your opinion.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, you got your own opinion, just like I got my own opinion.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_04: I just like I said, I just don't understand how people can act like they don't, I mean, you know, like that like that shit just don't exist, yeah, like it don't exist, like there's no way possible he could have feared for his life.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_04: This dude didn't have no no priors, no record, no, no fights, 3.7 GPA.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_04: That's another thing.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm like, because I if if he was like a a person who had all kind of trouble and was a horrible student and troublemaker and this and that, I would be looking at it sideways a little bit.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_04: But this dude had a fucking damn near 4.0 with no priors, and we're gonna just believe he just premeditated, he don't even know how to kill.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_04: He ain't fight, he ain't got no fights, he ain't got no nothing, he don't even how we so you just gonna think oh all one day he just said, Oh, I'm coming with a knife and I'm looking to kill people, right?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_04: So that's why I say, like I said, I I'm not here to destroy people who think the verdict was right, I'm just here for those who act like they can't see it, the other side of it.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_04: For sure, look at like like open y'all, or at least try to see it.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_04: At least try to.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_04: Look at the George Zimmerman case and Trayvon Martin and how that went, and he was innocent.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_04: And then maybe you'll understand why people look at this and say, Well, wait a minute, what the fuck?
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_04: Damn, that was just stand your ground, and this dude just hunted this guy down and killed him.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_04: This person wasn't even didn't even initiate anything.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_04: You came over there fucking with him, and he got 40, 35 years, and George Zimmerman got zero.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_04: That don't make no sense.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: So if it don't make no sense, it just don't make no sense.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_04: If it don't make no sense, it don't make no sense.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_04: And and you should understand why it's a millions of people, black and white.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_04: And shout out to some of those white big creators who have been standing up because they've been getting threats on their life left and right.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you've seen them, but it's a couple white uh creators who don't agree with the verdict, and they threatening the hell out of them.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like, damn man, it just it's no way possible that that even if like it's people that's like even if it was just manslaughter, see T.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's a lot of murder, yeah.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I was saying.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I I could see manslaughter, but just murder, I don't know about that.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, that's what I said, and that's another thing.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_04: I could see manslaughter if it just had to be something, I just don't see 35 years, yeah.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_04: Murder.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's I don't see that.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_04: I don't see that.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_04: It's unfortunate, but I don't see that.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah, y'all, and before we get out of here, Diddy.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh we gonna we're gonna we're gonna see how this Carmelo thing go out, but uh Diddy looking at more charges with those miners.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you got different lawyers involved now.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna touch on it going in detail in tomorrow.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_04: But um they really, and I done talked to a couple of my industry people, they like not only is they bringing more charges, but it's looking like they looking like they might go for Rico again, state Rico this time.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, last one was federal, so yeah.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna get they might get this off.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_04: So so that's that's that's the latest on the Diddy shit, y'all.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's not even just another case.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_04: He talking about they talking about another uh it might be another Rico and then like a state Rico, kind of like R.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_04: Kelly's was a I think they said R.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_04: Kelly's was a state Rico.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember, but and I mean you're gonna have to do majority of that time.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, ain't no saving you from that.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, y'all.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it's it's a heated one.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, this this this this Carmelo Anthony shit and all this is heated.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_04: Like I said, I'm just trying to get the people who who who have an open mind.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_04: If you don't have an open mind and you only see it one way, and that's it, that's fine.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_04: But that's not who I even really talking to today.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um like I said, I'm talking to the people who who who actually see that if it's millions of people on on the other side, it gotta be a reason, y'all.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_04: You got it gotta be a reason that it's millions that's that's that's against this verdict.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_04: You have to open your mind and be like, you know what, let me just get out my own way and try to understand because it's a lot of people who don't agree with this verdict.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_04: It shift is probably a reason.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_04: Ain't nobody just making it up, don't nobody want to see no kid.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_04: That one thing about it, we all come together when it comes to if a kid missing or if a kid done been mistreated.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_04: You got all races coming together.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_04: We we we we be ready to tear the world up about kids.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_04: So I don't care.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, nobody wants to see no kid, no color die.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_04: But at the same time, we do know that there are laws, and like I said, stand your ground law was a law we got a crash course on, and the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin one.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_04: You forced us to understand stand your.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_04: Standard ground then when we was in tears that this man was found innocent after hunting this little dude down.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_04: And so we understood that, took that on the chin.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_04: Then we get here and have another possible scenario where Stanger Ground could have came into play.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_04: And not only did it not come into play at all, but he got basically the full charge and damn near life.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_04: It ain't life, but it's it's it's the next best, it's the next thing to life.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_04: And so you gotta understand that it's it's a reason why people are confused, upset, and hurt behind it.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um I hope you hope you help help people you know open up their mind and just say, you know what, let me let me just look at this shit in a vacuum for a second and quit just trying to threaten and talk.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_04: Because it's like it's people that just because you don't agree, you just gotta be stupid.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_04: Or you you you just stupid.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not stupid, just don't agree with you.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_04: So y'all, this one flew by.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_04: But uh we'll see what it will come up.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_04: What you think?
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_04: You got you think you got any chance on the appeal, C Tuck?
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_03: He I think I think he does.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think I think he do.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's just all it's just we just gotta wait and see how everything plays out.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_04: Hell yeah.
• 1:07:16
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• 1:07:17
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• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, and before we get out of here, I forgot to mention, speaking about doing too much, the Knicks.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_03: Bro, what I tell you though.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yo, yeah, oh yeah, forgot to say your your uh your strategy or your uh your theory.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_03: What I tell you on Friday, man, I told y'all.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, they gonna tell me like it's gonna be close.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_03: Y'all can go back to the Friday episode and watch, rewatch it y'all self.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_03: I said, I'm like, it's gonna be close.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, but it's the exact way it went down to 99, just in reverse order.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_04: Same way, huh?
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_03: Man, the exact same way.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_04: And and we got 63 people arrested, 10 officers injured, four stabbings, and one teenager shot in the foot in the New York in New York after the Knicks fans went wild celebrating the NBA finals win.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_03: That was going crazy.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_03: I knew that was gonna happen.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_04: 63 people arrested, four people stabbed, one person shot, ten police officers injured, and five school buses destroyed.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: New York, y'all.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_04: Not wonder y'all, yeah.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_04: Look, y'all gotta wait another 50-something years.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_04: Not wonder y'all y'all can't win, but every 50-something years.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all wouldn't survive.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_04: It wouldn't be no New York if y'all can't championship.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_03: Man.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_04: Damn, congratulations.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_04: But are y'all happy or not?
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like I mean, we was going, we was going crazy when we won.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know if we were killing people.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_03: What's the name?
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, they weren't getting no, they weren't stabbing them, but they was hanging off of the they was hanging off of the street lights, though.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_03: I do remember that.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like stop lights and I do remember that.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_03: And it was on the RTA buses.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, y'all.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_04: So New York, let's try to be safe this week, man.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_04: Y'all can celebrate, but we don't.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_03: They parade on Thursday.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_03: You going?
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_03: Shit, hell no.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_04: Be safe, Denise, out there.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_04: As always, we love y'all, Denise.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_04: Be safe.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, if you go to the uh if you go to the the parade.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_04: We we want we want we definitely want to see you in the chat, Denise.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_04: So if you When is the parade?
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_03: Thursday.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_04: All right, so Thursday, so Friday, Denise.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_04: We want to make sure we see you in the chat.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_04: Congratulations to your Knicks.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_04: As always, we love y'all, but we are owls.