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- 0:07Speaker 1: The Large Nerd Drunk Collider Podcast is a production of
- 0:10Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to The Large Nerd
- 0:21Speaker 1: Drunk Collider. At the podcast that's all about the geeky
- 0:24Speaker 1: things happening in the world around us and how very
- 0:26Speaker 1: excited we are about them. I'm arial casting and with
- 0:29Speaker 1: me as always, is the Dulcet Lee toned Jonathan Strickland. Hello, Ariel, Well, Hello, Ariel.
- 0:38Speaker 1: It feels just like we did this just a moment ago,
- 0:42Speaker 1: because we did. Because we did. Yeah. So, so here's
- 0:46Speaker 1: a little peek behind the curtain, y'all. Sometimes when you're recording,
- 0:49Speaker 1: you look over and you notice that in the levels
- 0:54Speaker 1: on your screen that one of the two people talking,
- 0:57Speaker 1: in this case me starts to hit a little red colors,
- 1:01Speaker 1: which are bad because it means that I'm blowing out
- 1:04Speaker 1: the mic. So we had to screen seven minutes and
- 1:07Speaker 1: eleven seconds of content and start all over again, and
- 1:11Speaker 1: we had barely even gotten into anything we wanted to
- 1:13Speaker 1: talk about. But listen, Jonathan, don't don't be too hard
- 1:17Speaker 1: on yourself. It's not your fault if you go to eleven.
- 1:19Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. But I am now ready to
- 1:22Speaker 1: ask you a question. Bet you can't guess what it is,
- 1:32Speaker 1: all right, Ariel, Because one of our topics we're gonna
- 1:34Speaker 1: talk about today is about a certain uh famous musician,
- 1:39Speaker 1: someone who's had a very long career and even received
- 1:43Speaker 1: a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in two
- 1:46Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. We're gonna have this question be do
- 1:50Speaker 1: you have any favorite weird Al Yankovic songs? I do
- 1:55Speaker 1: Harvey the Wonder Hamster, which is a thirty seconds on
- 2:00Speaker 1: about a hamster. Listen, you didn't give me a lengthy specification, sir.
- 2:08Speaker 1: It's an amazing song. I sing it to my cat, Harvey.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Sometimes I change it to Harvey the Wonder Kitty, but
- 2:16Speaker 1: usually I call him Harvey the Wonder Hamster. Anyhow, Um
- 2:20Speaker 1: you know he had Harvey the Wonder Hamster on his
- 2:23Speaker 1: old old TV show. That's not what I named my
- 2:26Speaker 1: cat after. I name my cat after for Escape. I
- 2:28Speaker 1: think you all know that. But um, I like it.
- 2:30Speaker 1: But okay, if that one doesn't count, then um, let's see,
- 2:36Speaker 1: uh if you if you go back to like when
- 2:38Speaker 1: I was first introduced to weird Al, I think it
- 2:40Speaker 1: was don't go making phony calls, because I like, don't
- 2:44Speaker 1: go Chasing Waterfalls by tlc uh. But like it's hard
- 2:49Speaker 1: because all of those songs I liked because I was
- 2:51Speaker 1: young and impressionable, and then he made a parody of it.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And I also like comedy, so then I liked that,
- 2:56Speaker 1: you know, like pretty Fly for a Rabbi and um
- 3:01Speaker 1: Amish Paradise. Oh, I really liked Johnish Paradise. Of his
- 3:04Speaker 1: more modern stuff, I like word Crimes because it's um.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I like that fast wordplay. It's almost nerd core. It's
- 3:11Speaker 1: like nerd polka core. But really my favorite of all
- 3:15Speaker 1: weird al are his polka mashups. And polka mashups. I mean,
- 3:24Speaker 1: I do them in every aspect of my life. I
- 3:27Speaker 1: do them in this podcast. My band, like our Bread
- 3:30Speaker 1: and Butter is mashing up songs. Uh. But I the
- 3:36Speaker 1: last time we recorded this, I said I didn't have
- 3:38Speaker 1: a favorite, and then I said my favorite was like
- 3:40Speaker 1: Polka Your Eyes Out because it was like a cradle
- 3:42Speaker 1: of love and interest stand Man and Doctor feel Good
- 3:45Speaker 1: and Ice Ice Baby. But then I wok looked through
- 3:47Speaker 1: all of his other polka mashups and I love all
- 3:49Speaker 1: of those two. So it's kind of like it's like
- 3:53Speaker 1: picking a favorite child. Yeah, and I've I've rattled on
- 3:58Speaker 1: now like I've cheated at this question because I've named
- 4:01Speaker 1: fifty two of his songs that I like, and I
- 4:03Speaker 1: could just keep going until I've named his almost entire catalog.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I didn't even touch like his originals. Yeah that's what about.
- 4:09Speaker 1: I'm going to be touching his originals, which is why
- 4:11Speaker 1: he has a restraining order against me. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
- 4:16Speaker 1: I I like his parodies. But the problem I have
- 4:19Speaker 1: with parodies in general, it's not it's nothing to do
- 4:22Speaker 1: with his parodies, which I think are brilliant. For one thing,
- 4:25Speaker 1: he's really good at recreating the sound that made the
- 4:28Speaker 1: original song special. He's really good at that. The problem
- 4:32Speaker 1: I have with parodies is that often you can have
- 4:34Speaker 1: a song that just falls out of favor to the
- 4:37Speaker 1: point where the thing the parody, like, you forget that
- 4:41Speaker 1: it's even a parody of a song because the song
- 4:43Speaker 1: that it's parodying isn't really in the zeitgeist anymore. Uh.
- 4:47Speaker 1: And I like the originals because they are more evergreen. Um.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And I even told you this before we started recording
- 4:54Speaker 1: this is that you know, when I first heard the
- 4:56Speaker 1: song Yoda, I didn't even realize it was a parody
- 4:58Speaker 1: because I was a geeky kid. I hadn't even heard
- 5:01Speaker 1: of the Kinks, didn't know there was a song called Lola,
- 5:05Speaker 1: which is awesome. But then I finally put two and
- 5:09Speaker 1: two together when I did hear Lolo, and Oh, this
- 5:12Speaker 1: is why Yoda is a parody of I think goodness,
- 5:14Speaker 1: I didn't make the mistake of saying, oh, Lola must
- 5:17Speaker 1: be a parody of Yoda. Um. But the the more
- 5:20Speaker 1: recent song that I I think speaks to me on
- 5:23Speaker 1: a deep level is called Skipper Dan, and it's a
- 5:27Speaker 1: song about an actor who has dreams of being on
- 5:31Speaker 1: the stage and was on like on the path to
- 5:35Speaker 1: becoming something big in theater when you know, opportunities dried
- 5:41Speaker 1: up and he took a job as a guide a
- 5:43Speaker 1: skipper on the Jungle Cruise ride at Disneyland, and that
- 5:47Speaker 1: that's where he stuck now. And it's it's a cheerful
- 5:51Speaker 1: sounding song with kind of tragic story elements to it
- 5:57Speaker 1: because it's about someone whose dream is dying before were
- 6:00Speaker 1: his eyes. And I love that juxtaposition. And you know,
- 6:05Speaker 1: there are a lot of other artists out there who
- 6:07Speaker 1: have created music in that same sort of feel like
- 6:10Speaker 1: Jonathan Colton has done a lot of songs that you
- 6:13Speaker 1: listen to it and if you're not paying attengital lyrics,
- 6:16Speaker 1: you're like, this is a this is a bopper, this
- 6:18Speaker 1: is poppy, and then you listen to the lyrics like, whoa,
- 6:20Speaker 1: this is dark. They might be giants does it too?
- 6:24Speaker 1: You know, there's a few different bands out there that
- 6:26Speaker 1: are really good at it. Only recently did I actually
- 6:29Speaker 1: go and listen to what they might be giant songs
- 6:31Speaker 1: are about. And yeah that like some of their albums
- 6:34Speaker 1: are pretty darned with pressing. Uh, it is funny. I'll
- 6:38Speaker 1: share this. Paullen Storm is another geek band that we
- 6:40Speaker 1: both like. And yeah, you say Skipper Dan, and my
- 6:43Speaker 1: brain just automatically goes to the ballad of Eddie Prager,
- 6:46Speaker 1: which is, uh, a sea shanty with bad penny whistle
- 6:50Speaker 1: about a urinal cake. Yeah, not the same thing. So
- 6:52Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't. Maybe it's just the
- 6:56Speaker 1: oceanic title tie ins and names like you have like
- 7:02Speaker 1: a title in the name in the case of Skipper Dan.
- 7:04Speaker 1: But yeah, so we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk about
- 7:08Speaker 1: weird affect. We're going to do it right now, because Ariel,
- 7:11Speaker 1: you found a story that I gotta tell you. When
- 7:14Speaker 1: I saw the headline, I had to check the date
- 7:18Speaker 1: on that story to make sure it wasn't an April
- 7:20Speaker 1: fool's joke. Because I was sure it wasn't true, I
- 7:25Speaker 1: had to do the same thing I had to and
- 7:28Speaker 1: I had to check my sources. So Roku is making
- 7:33Speaker 1: Roku along with Funnier Die Funnier Diean Tango is making
- 7:39Speaker 1: a biopic on weird Al Yankovic along with weird Al Yankovic.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Yankovic is working on this with them. He's he's writing it,
- 7:46Speaker 1: and Daniel Radcliffe is playing weird Al. And at first
- 7:50Speaker 1: I was like, what weird alls an actor? Why? Why
- 7:53Speaker 1: would why would they cast anybody else's him? But I
- 7:56Speaker 1: guess if he needs to be young, weird awl, weird Alice,
- 8:00Speaker 1: you know, not old, but he's older than a kid.
- 8:06Speaker 1: But but yeah, Daniel Radcliffe, if he's going to be
- 8:09Speaker 1: playing like the weird Al who first got to start
- 8:12Speaker 1: getting his tapes played on the Dr Demento radio show,
- 8:16Speaker 1: you know that makes more sense. But yeah, Daniel Radcliffe,
- 8:19Speaker 1: it's such a wild choice. Not a bad choice, mind you,
- 8:23Speaker 1: because Daniel Radcliffe is. I think he's proven himself with
- 8:27Speaker 1: a lot of really interesting role choices over the last
- 8:31Speaker 1: five years that in my mind completely separate him from
- 8:35Speaker 1: being Harry Potter. I know that everyone thinks of him
- 8:38Speaker 1: that way, because of course, obviously he was central to
- 8:41Speaker 1: that franchise for eight movies, but um, you know, having
- 8:46Speaker 1: him play this it feels so far out of field,
- 8:50Speaker 1: and at the same time I really want to see it.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I kind of agree, I kind of don't. So recently
- 8:56Speaker 1: I watched Miracle Workers, which is a bit raunchy and
- 8:59Speaker 1: a bit there's a lot of base humors, so if
- 9:01Speaker 1: that's not your thing, I'm not recommending it for you.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But Daniel Radcliffe is one of the main characters in it.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Um it's kind of Comedia dell arte and that it's
- 9:08Speaker 1: the same actors playing similar um characters across the different scenarios.
- 9:15Speaker 1: They're all different characters, but they all have a similar
- 9:17Speaker 1: like m o UM and in that he plays kind
- 9:20Speaker 1: of like the nice guy and weird as a really
- 9:25Speaker 1: nice guy from everything I know about him, and I
- 9:27Speaker 1: don't know him personally. And Daniel Radcliffe can sing and
- 9:30Speaker 1: he can dance, and he's really good at comedy and
- 9:31Speaker 1: he's really good at drama. So yeah, I think he's
- 9:34Speaker 1: a great choice. His nose is not quite right. What
- 9:38Speaker 1: do you think is I love that that's what you
- 9:39Speaker 1: bring up. But what I think is that the the
- 9:41Speaker 1: news article and deadline about this obviously has things that
- 9:46Speaker 1: are clearly being played up for laughs, like the idea
- 9:49Speaker 1: of weird all having all these hot and heavy like
- 9:52Speaker 1: illicit love affairs and stuff that maybe he did maybe
- 9:58Speaker 1: with nasal spray. And if you get that reference, it
- 10:02Speaker 1: means you watched a nineteen eighties era weird O Yankovic
- 10:06Speaker 1: comedy special that I think me and maybe two other
- 10:09Speaker 1: people have seen, but it's before u HF. He did
- 10:14Speaker 1: this goofy comedy special before u HF. And it was
- 10:17Speaker 1: it was kind of a a reason to group together
- 10:21Speaker 1: a bunch of music videos of his songs. But it
- 10:26Speaker 1: was supposed to be a biopic of weird Out, but
- 10:28Speaker 1: it was a joke like it was. It was inventing
- 10:31Speaker 1: lots of stuff that supposedly happened, like him doing a
- 10:34Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix and lighting his accordion on fire on stage,
- 10:38Speaker 1: that kind of thing, very tongue in cheek, so I'm
- 10:41Speaker 1: I'm I'm eager to see this. I'm a big weird
- 10:44Speaker 1: al fan. Um. You know, he's done some amazing stuff,
- 10:47Speaker 1: not just not just his music, but you know, he's
- 10:49Speaker 1: directed music videos of notable and he's done tons of
- 10:53Speaker 1: like collaborations, like sometimes he shows up as a surprise
- 10:57Speaker 1: collaborator in someone else's in certain it's just crazy, like
- 11:01Speaker 1: he came out for Weezer and played Africa Total's Africa
- 11:05Speaker 1: with Weezer on stage one time, and bunk or stuff
- 11:08Speaker 1: like that. So he really is one of my favorite
- 11:11Speaker 1: artists that i've met, never met, and don't know, I've
- 11:15Speaker 1: never met him either. I've seen I've been to several
- 11:18Speaker 1: of his shows, but I've never done like a meet
- 11:20Speaker 1: and greet, And I'm fine with that. I'm like the dude,
- 11:23Speaker 1: like give him his space, because i know I would
- 11:26Speaker 1: be that annoying geeky fan if I were to ever
- 11:29Speaker 1: actually chat with him. And I'm happy just you know,
- 11:32Speaker 1: just just being a fan. I'm good with that. Yeah,
- 11:35Speaker 1: I am. I know I've been really laxed for the
- 11:37Speaker 1: people who actually check our website on updating it recently,
- 11:40Speaker 1: but I will update it with this show. Notes for
- 11:43Speaker 1: this episode, because yeah, you should read list Deadline article
- 11:47Speaker 1: even if you don't go to our website, because it
- 11:49Speaker 1: really does read like in April one article. Um, even
- 11:53Speaker 1: like with even the head of Roku and the head
- 11:57Speaker 1: of Funnier Die being in on it. Yeah point where again, like,
- 12:01Speaker 1: I'm not a convinced this is a real thing. One
- 12:04Speaker 1: other thing that I am a hundred percent convinced of
- 12:07Speaker 1: is that Microsoft and has made a big move. And
- 12:09Speaker 1: chances are, if you're a video game enthusiasts, you know
- 12:12Speaker 1: this news already. It has. The company has announced that
- 12:16Speaker 1: it is acquiring Activision Blizzard for more than sixty billion dollars. Yeah. Yeah,
- 12:24Speaker 1: my friends have been chatting about this today and uh
- 12:27Speaker 1: they're concerned about how Blizzard properties will play with Apple
- 12:31Speaker 1: products once this finally goes through, which you know it's
- 12:35Speaker 1: gonna take a while. Yeah, I mean so. Phil Spencer,
- 12:39Speaker 1: who's head of he's the CEO of Microsoft Gaming, has
- 12:42Speaker 1: said that they remain committed for Activision Blizzard titles to
- 12:47Speaker 1: play on the platforms upon which it's known for. Like
- 12:52Speaker 1: it's it's a very loose, vague language, but the meaning
- 12:55Speaker 1: seems to be. My interpretation of the meaning is that
- 12:59Speaker 1: he's saying, Okay, PlayStation owners, Mac owners, don't worry. We're
- 13:04Speaker 1: not We're not gonna tell Activision Blizzard to stop making
- 13:07Speaker 1: stuff for your platforms. That's not going to happen. That
- 13:10Speaker 1: seems to be the message, but it will remain to
- 13:13Speaker 1: be seen now. Activision Blizzard has been in the news
- 13:17Speaker 1: a lot since the middle of as a lot of
- 13:21Speaker 1: allegations made the light of day about a very toxic
- 13:25Speaker 1: work culture, one that is plagued with lots of serious problems,
- 13:29Speaker 1: including sexual harassment claims, and the company has been trying
- 13:33Speaker 1: to clean up quite a bit since then, or at
- 13:36Speaker 1: least that's been the messaging. So one takeaway I have
- 13:41Speaker 1: for this is that it gives me hope that serious
- 13:46Speaker 1: positive changes are on the way, because I'm always worried
- 13:50Speaker 1: that a company that has kind of those deep issues,
- 13:54Speaker 1: it's really hard for that company to change on its own,
- 13:57Speaker 1: like it's hard for internal change to come if the
- 14:00Speaker 1: foundation is rotten. And my hope is that Microsoft can
- 14:04Speaker 1: help make those changes. Hopefully everyone manages to to keep
- 14:08Speaker 1: their jobs, but they also end up in a more
- 14:11Speaker 1: positive and supportive work environment. It sounds like that is
- 14:15Speaker 1: Microsoft's plan. The article on Polygon that uh we're using
- 14:19Speaker 1: as reference. One of the many articles on it quotes
- 14:22Speaker 1: uh Microsoft as as saying that they value studio culture
- 14:27Speaker 1: and employee and inclusiveness and are going to try to
- 14:32Speaker 1: improve all that again in very big terms. But that's
- 14:35Speaker 1: that's great news, uh, you know, in in the short term.
- 14:38Speaker 1: I think it's going to be great news for gamers.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Long term, obviously, consolidation is always kind of scary because
- 14:45Speaker 1: you worry about stuff getting kind of all boiled down
- 14:49Speaker 1: so it all fields and plays and looks the same,
- 14:52Speaker 1: and you don't want that. But in the short term,
- 14:55Speaker 1: if you're someone like who has Xbox Game Pass, you're
- 14:58Speaker 1: gonna see some crazy titles popping up. Been that, And
- 15:01Speaker 1: in the short term, for the employees, could mean an
- 15:04Speaker 1: improvement in their work conditions, which to me is the
- 15:06Speaker 1: most important thing. But you know, also, I mean, I
- 15:09Speaker 1: understand how gamers can feel really uh stressed out about this.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Um ariel. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna call an
- 15:17Speaker 1: audible and the audible is Let's take our third news
- 15:22Speaker 1: item for the segment and put it in the next
- 15:24Speaker 1: segment because it kind of fits there anyway. Let's take
- 15:28Speaker 1: a break. I'm actually happy you did that, Jonathan, because
- 15:43Speaker 1: I'm going in my head, I don't know whether i
- 15:45Speaker 1: want to say, go into this using toxic workplaces or
- 15:48Speaker 1: something that is good news, because it's kind of both.
- 15:51Speaker 1: And that's that real Steel. The two thousand and eleven
- 15:56Speaker 1: film that is basically rock'em sock'em Robots with Wolverine in it,
- 16:00Speaker 1: it's not it's whatever, and it's the music man. Yeah. Okay,
- 16:04Speaker 1: so Hugh Jackman's in the two thousand eleven movie about
- 16:07Speaker 1: people who have build boxing robots and he's kind of
- 16:10Speaker 1: a delinquent dad um is apparently getting a Disney Plus show.
- 16:14Speaker 1: The only reason I said toxic workplace is because the
- 16:17Speaker 1: boxing robots scene is not the most up and up. Yeah. Yeah,
- 16:23Speaker 1: it was a surprisingly good movie. Wasn't like I have
- 16:27Speaker 1: want to see it. It's not that I didn't want
- 16:29Speaker 1: to see it. It's just one of those things that
- 16:30Speaker 1: it's like literally one of those many titles that kind
- 16:33Speaker 1: of slipped past me and I never got a chance
- 16:35Speaker 1: to really watch it. Um, not that I didn't like it,
- 16:39Speaker 1: definitely wasn't going to be the kind of film that
- 16:40Speaker 1: I was gonna go seek out in the theaters when
- 16:42Speaker 1: it came out, but it would have been the kind
- 16:43Speaker 1: of thing I might watch on a evening on like
- 16:46Speaker 1: a streaming service. I would say that you should. Yeah,
- 16:49Speaker 1: it's kind of um. It's kind of like Rocky meets
- 16:54Speaker 1: I mean literally rock and Sock and Robots meets Over
- 16:57Speaker 1: the Top. The way you were described that, I was thinking, like,
- 17:01Speaker 1: for the people who don't know what Over the Top is,
- 17:03Speaker 1: do you care to kind of give a quick synopsis?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Because it was crazy? Yeah, it's um. Sylvester Stallone plays
- 17:11Speaker 1: a delinquent dad and there's like arm wrestling. Yes, he's
- 17:15Speaker 1: a truck driver and a professional arm wrestler and he's
- 17:19Speaker 1: competing in an arm wrestling tournament. And he also has
- 17:23Speaker 1: an estranged son with whom he's trying to reconnect. And
- 17:26Speaker 1: that movie is equal parts terrible and awesome. And I
- 17:34Speaker 1: love it and it's terrible. Then, I mean, I would
- 17:38Speaker 1: definitely say you should watch Real Steel. It's I thought
- 17:41Speaker 1: it was good, mind you. I also enjoyed Van helsing.
- 17:45Speaker 1: But your standards and my standards are different, That's all
- 17:49Speaker 1: they are. But what I'll say is, if you liked
- 17:51Speaker 1: Over the Top, it's not quite as cheesy. It has
- 17:53Speaker 1: like a better plot, it has I feel better acting everything.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Does I have a point where the guy says, I
- 18:00Speaker 1: like to turn my head around because it's like a switch,
- 18:02Speaker 1: like like on a truck. You know, I don't. I
- 18:06Speaker 1: don't know it has. I will say it has been
- 18:08Speaker 1: a while since I've watched Real Steel. I own it now.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I'm going to have to go back and watch it again.
- 18:12Speaker 1: But I really like, I really really I'm excited for
- 18:17Speaker 1: the show. I quite enjoyed it. I didn't know what
- 18:19Speaker 1: to expect. I expected it to be a dumb movie,
- 18:21Speaker 1: but it was. It was just a lot of fun.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Do you think it was because you have seen it
- 18:26Speaker 1: and I haven't. Do you think there's enough juice there
- 18:30Speaker 1: to support a series? I mean, there's enough juice to
- 18:34Speaker 1: support a whole bunch of robots. Well, but yes I do.
- 18:40Speaker 1: I do. But it'll be like it'll be a little
- 18:42Speaker 1: bit gritty, you know, like it's it's robots punching the
- 18:46Speaker 1: snookers out of each other, Like what's the I get
- 18:50Speaker 1: that the story is what's important, right, Because if I
- 18:56Speaker 1: were just a series about teenagers kicking the snot out
- 18:59Speaker 1: of each other, it wouldn't be compelling. You wouldn't watch
- 19:02Speaker 1: more than an episode of it. There's more going on
- 19:04Speaker 1: in Cobra Kai than that, My My. What I'm wondering
- 19:09Speaker 1: is what will be the underlying story that will fuel
- 19:14Speaker 1: a real Steel series, because otherwise it's just it's just
- 19:17Speaker 1: a fantasy version of Robot Wars. I mean, I like
- 19:22Speaker 1: Robot Wars. I'd watch a fantasy version of that. I mean,
- 19:25Speaker 1: I think it will be family. You can draw out
- 19:28Speaker 1: family conflict in a million different ways, generation by generation.
- 19:32Speaker 1: You can ultimately yes, yes, uh, but even with even
- 19:41Speaker 1: with Cobra Kai, which I love and it's one of
- 19:43Speaker 1: my goals to be on Cobra Kai. UM like, I
- 19:47Speaker 1: love it, but it's largely the same conflict every season
- 19:51Speaker 1: with a few added or changed factors you haven't watched
- 19:56Speaker 1: and almost sent me on another rabbit hole. But we
- 19:59Speaker 1: have more things we have to talk about, so I'm
- 20:01Speaker 1: not going to do it, but I am going to
- 20:02Speaker 1: do it after we Yes, you will have to, you
- 20:05Speaker 1: will have to. Um. But this really leads into another
- 20:08Speaker 1: another thing that Disney just unveiled to us, which is
- 20:12Speaker 1: a New Moon Night trailer um, and that's gonna be
- 20:18Speaker 1: pretty dark. But they aren't putting it on Hulu, They're
- 20:21Speaker 1: putting it on Disney Plus. Uh, what was your reaction
- 20:25Speaker 1: to the trailer? Why do you think? Did you like
- 20:27Speaker 1: it not like it to do the was it nothing?
- 20:31Speaker 1: It wasn't what I expected that Yeah, yeah, so it focused.
- 20:38Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool and that it didn't
- 20:41Speaker 1: it revealed I think just enough for the fans and
- 20:43Speaker 1: just enough for if you don't know what the what
- 20:45Speaker 1: Moon Night is about to go? Huh, I need to
- 20:48Speaker 1: watch and figure out what's going on without revealing necessarily
- 20:51Speaker 1: too much of the plot or too many of the
- 20:52Speaker 1: cool things for people who are new, who coming in
- 20:54Speaker 1: new to this to the property. Um but I expected
- 21:00Speaker 1: a lot more, a lot more of the other aspects
- 21:06Speaker 1: of the character to come into the trailer than yea
- 21:09Speaker 1: for those who don't know, because I mean, this is
- 21:11Speaker 1: just part of the character. The character has, uh like
- 21:16Speaker 1: a multiple personality disorder kind of thing, and in many
- 21:20Speaker 1: ways this trailer gave me uh flashbacks to Legion, another
- 21:26Speaker 1: Marvel character. And it's also a Marvel character who has
- 21:30Speaker 1: numerous multiple personalities. Um but in the comics they change
- 21:35Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, yeah, no, they changed while they changed
- 21:38Speaker 1: quite a bit in Legion. The television series versus Legion,
- 21:41Speaker 1: the comic book character, but like who Legion's dad is?
- 21:45Speaker 1: But but the the Moon Night trailer I thought was
- 21:52Speaker 1: very moody and effective. Oscar Isaac I love him, Um,
- 21:57Speaker 1: I will forgive his accent. Some people comparing it. I
- 22:02Speaker 1: heard some people comparing it to Dick Vandyke. Yeah, yeah,
- 22:05Speaker 1: which I love Dick Vandyke's so but his shows accident
- 22:07Speaker 1: Mary Poppins is frequently a thing of ridicule. But we
- 22:11Speaker 1: wanted to use this kind of to have a brief
- 22:14Speaker 1: discussion at least about because Moon Night does loot like
- 22:17Speaker 1: it's going to be a little more intense. Um, I mean,
- 22:21Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of hard to see what
- 22:23Speaker 1: moon So there is a sequence in the trailer w
- 22:25Speaker 1: Moon Night is is pounding something with his fists. It
- 22:31Speaker 1: looks like a person. It might be a person. If
- 22:33Speaker 1: it's a person, that definitely raises up this question. Legitimately,
- 22:37Speaker 1: if it's like a monster kind of thing, then this
- 22:41Speaker 1: question ends up almost being moot. But the question is
- 22:44Speaker 1: do we think Disney Plus is testing out the possibility
- 22:50Speaker 1: of more gritty, violent Marvel content and could that potentially
- 22:57Speaker 1: mean that we might see a return, not of specific characters,
- 23:01Speaker 1: but of series that we got on Netflix that we're
- 23:06Speaker 1: far more violent and dark than anything we've seen in
- 23:09Speaker 1: the Marvel movies. I mean Daredevil and um, Jessica Jones
- 23:15Speaker 1: and Luke Cage and uh and like, you know, all
- 23:19Speaker 1: the appearances of the Punisher, like the Punisher very over
- 23:23Speaker 1: the top violent. I don't think we're gonna get anything
- 23:25Speaker 1: close to that level with Midnight, but I do wonder
- 23:29Speaker 1: if this means that we can see characters like the
- 23:32Speaker 1: Punisher re emerge. So I think, I think so. I
- 23:37Speaker 1: don't have any insight on this. Um, I will say,
- 23:41Speaker 1: like I follow the casting directors for Marvel stuff because
- 23:43Speaker 1: I'm an actor, of course I do. I don't have
- 23:45Speaker 1: any insight on this. You know, they're all very tight lipped.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Even if I had insight, I wouldn't say, um, but
- 23:50Speaker 1: but I would have to imagine. So are we past
- 23:54Speaker 1: the spoiler window for Hawkeye? I think so? Okay, So
- 23:58Speaker 1: we already know that King Pen from Daredevil was in Hawkeye. UM.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I hope that was enough of a spoiler warning for
- 24:06Speaker 1: anybody who hasn't watched material had him. And then there's
- 24:09Speaker 1: been tons of coverage since then. With Vincent talking about it. Yeah.
- 24:15Speaker 1: He he was very excited about it and was not
- 24:17Speaker 1: great at keeping his lips sealed, to the point where
- 24:20Speaker 1: Disney had to be like no, no, no, but then yes,
- 24:23Speaker 1: yes yes, um. And in Daredevil he is super violent. Um,
- 24:29Speaker 1: Hawkeye he wasn't as violent though there the stuff surrounding
- 24:32Speaker 1: him definitely was more violent than other aspects of the show.
- 24:35Speaker 1: He was far more damage resistant in Hawkeye than he
- 24:38Speaker 1: was in Daredevil. However, Yeah, yeah, more more similar to
- 24:43Speaker 1: like how he was in although it wasn't an offer
- 24:45Speaker 1: playing him in uh, Spider Man and the Multiverse. Um,
- 24:50Speaker 1: how he was portrayed in that cartoon movie. Um. So yeah.
- 24:54Speaker 1: I feel like this is definitely them trying to open
- 24:57Speaker 1: the waters to bring back I would love to see
- 25:00Speaker 1: Daredevil and Luke Cage. I feel like to put it
- 25:03Speaker 1: on Disney. Plus, they would need to put in some
- 25:05Speaker 1: parental like some extra parental controls onto the system, because
- 25:09Speaker 1: that's definitely stuff I would not want, like my six
- 25:11Speaker 1: year old stumbling across. I'm really surprised they aren't putting
- 25:14Speaker 1: it on Hulu because like hit Monkey and Modoc and
- 25:17Speaker 1: things like that are all on Hulu, which is still
- 25:19Speaker 1: owned by Disney. But yeah, I don't know. Maybe there's
- 25:21Speaker 1: like some rights issues tied up when Netflix. I don't know,
- 25:25Speaker 1: like maybe there was like an option or whatever, and
- 25:27Speaker 1: until that expires, they can't really do anything with it.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I am not aware of anything like that, but it's
- 25:32Speaker 1: a possibility. Um. It's more like I'm wondering if we'll
- 25:36Speaker 1: see stuff along the same vein, and it may be
- 25:39Speaker 1: a while before we see those characters get a series again,
- 25:44Speaker 1: apart from like little appearances and other stuff, but I'm
- 25:47Speaker 1: hopeful it's it's I really liked the first season of
- 25:52Speaker 1: Daredevil a lot. I like the second season less, but
- 25:56Speaker 1: I still liked it. I really like Jessica Jones, but
- 26:00Speaker 1: Jessica Jones, like Jessica Jones, deals with stuff that's that
- 26:04Speaker 1: goes beyond just violence. I mean, there should be trigger
- 26:07Speaker 1: warnings a plenty in Jessica Jones. I feel like Jessica
- 26:11Speaker 1: Jones as much as I think they did a good
- 26:13Speaker 1: job with the first season of it on Netflix, I
- 26:15Speaker 1: think the character can certainly cross over into d Plus
- 26:18Speaker 1: stuff no problem, especially looking at her later seasons. Um,
- 26:23Speaker 1: but I don't I don't think that series fits Disney
- 26:27Speaker 1: Plus I don't. I don't think there's enough parental controls
- 26:29Speaker 1: to make it fit that platform. Um, you know, I
- 26:32Speaker 1: liked Luke Cage. Again, all of these things were very
- 26:35Speaker 1: much made for adults, and they were all very very gritty.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Um the one like Iron Fist. As much as I
- 26:43Speaker 1: liked how season two ended, they don't need to. They
- 26:45Speaker 1: don't need to well, and then see, the interesting thing
- 26:49Speaker 1: to me as well is that the Netflix series they
- 26:52Speaker 1: went to a level of intensity that goes not just
- 26:54Speaker 1: beyond Disney Plus, but well beyond anything you see in
- 26:58Speaker 1: any of the films. Right. The movies all take a
- 27:02Speaker 1: pretty p g PG thirteen approach, which makes sense. I mean,
- 27:06Speaker 1: they're marketing these two beat for everybody, not just adults.
- 27:11Speaker 1: And so time and again, when you watch a Marvel film,
- 27:15Speaker 1: the violence tends to be pretty downplayed. There's a lot
- 27:18Speaker 1: of action. But if there's anything where someone like Hawkeye
- 27:22Speaker 1: is shooting someone with an arrow and the arrow actually
- 27:24Speaker 1: you actually see the arrow hit that's something. It's usually
- 27:27Speaker 1: a c G I alien like, it's not a person like.
- 27:31Speaker 1: I mean he hit people in the in the TV show, yes,
- 27:36Speaker 1: but there wasn't a lot of blood. It goes back
- 27:38Speaker 1: to that, like that rating system of like what makes
- 27:41Speaker 1: something PG versus PG thirteen Is it how much blood
- 27:44Speaker 1: and guts you show or is it the act of
- 27:47Speaker 1: the violence? You know, it's we could do a whole
- 27:51Speaker 1: episode just about how bizarre and contradictory. Yeah, we have
- 27:56Speaker 1: talked about in the past about how the rating systems
- 27:59Speaker 1: are messed up, um like, like they don't necessarily do
- 28:04Speaker 1: a good job of protecting people if that's what they're
- 28:06Speaker 1: meant to do. They also do do a good job
- 28:08Speaker 1: of really indicating what, you know, whether a film is
- 28:12Speaker 1: going to be upsetting or not, Like it's there's a
- 28:15Speaker 1: whole thing. And also the whole process of just submitting
- 28:18Speaker 1: to get the rating is ridiculous. Star Wars is pretty violent,
- 28:22Speaker 1: Mandalorian is pretty violent. Home Alone is pretty fine. I
- 28:25Speaker 1: will say this, the Book of Boba Fett is not
- 28:28Speaker 1: nearly violent enough. I'm I am still behind on it.
- 28:34Speaker 1: It feels like it's trying to be three different this
- 28:37Speaker 1: this segment is not supposed to be about book fee
- 28:39Speaker 1: but we can definitely Bunny Trail there. It feels like
- 28:43Speaker 1: it's trying to be three different movies, and I like, like,
- 28:46Speaker 1: I like the documentary on the on Tuscan Raider culture. Yeah,
- 28:51Speaker 1: like like the fact that you get them, you get
- 28:54Speaker 1: an episode. Let's say it's fifty minutes long. You can
- 28:56Speaker 1: be pretty sure that about forty minutes of that fifty
- 28:59Speaker 1: minutes is going to be set as a flashback to
- 29:01Speaker 1: Tuscan Raiders, and the other ten minutes is a little
- 29:04Speaker 1: bit of continuation of whatever the storyline is playing out
- 29:08Speaker 1: in the quote unquote modern day of the show. I
- 29:12Speaker 1: mean like, yeah, so the other part of it feels
- 29:14Speaker 1: like like Good Feathers, but like good best cars and
- 29:17Speaker 1: good Feathers, not Good Fellas. You get it with the
- 29:21Speaker 1: cartoon parody of Good Fellas. I mean, you're not wrong. Okay, Well,
- 29:29Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap this up, but I I definitely am
- 29:31Speaker 1: curious to see if we're gonna get any more gritty
- 29:35Speaker 1: type of series on Disney Plus because I really feel
- 29:39Speaker 1: like there are a lot of stories that Marvel would
- 29:42Speaker 1: like to tell that they just can't tell in the
- 29:45Speaker 1: format they've kind of found themselves locked into right now.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I mean, we know they're supposed to be bringing Blade
- 29:51Speaker 1: and Blade. If you don't, if you don't, if you
- 29:53Speaker 1: don't go are with Blade or at least flirt with it.
- 29:57Speaker 1: What's the point. I mean, I think they can. But
- 30:00Speaker 1: Blade is also kind of tangential. Tangential, you know, I
- 30:05Speaker 1: would have said moodon Night was tangential since he's kind
- 30:08Speaker 1: of a more disturbed Batman. Yeah, Batman already has cut
- 30:12Speaker 1: issues out the wazoo. Yeah yeah, yeah, but um but
- 30:16Speaker 1: I am looking forward to it. I they Marvel and
- 30:21Speaker 1: Dizzy plus with Marvel has done really well at keeping
- 30:25Speaker 1: my trust for their shows. Even the ones that I
- 30:27Speaker 1: haven't been as fond of, I've still enjoyed um And
- 30:30Speaker 1: I you know, I look forward to maybe this revised
- 30:33Speaker 1: version of The Defenders because honestly, as much as I
- 30:35Speaker 1: love the Netflix stuff, some of it was a little
- 30:37Speaker 1: too gritty for me. Um And I think you could
- 30:40Speaker 1: still tell the same sort of story and dial it back.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I mean, I'm popular, I don't feel like I never
- 30:47Speaker 1: felt that it was too gritty, but I definitely felt
- 30:49Speaker 1: that sometimes the violence went to like true gratuitous um levels,
- 30:55Speaker 1: where like it wasn't so it wasn't that it was gritty,
- 30:58Speaker 1: it was that the violence was so over the top
- 31:00Speaker 1: gratuitous that I was taken out of the experience and
- 31:05Speaker 1: I was just focusing on how gratuitous it was, and
- 31:07Speaker 1: that to me, that was upsetting to me. I mean,
- 31:10Speaker 1: it's the same reason I don't watch SAW. Well, well,
- 31:12Speaker 1: we have something that's going to disturb all of you
- 31:14Speaker 1: listeners in just a minute after we take a quick break. Okay,
- 31:39Speaker 1: let's let's do another peak behind the current real quick areal. Okay,
- 31:43Speaker 1: So what a brainstorming? What two properties were going to
- 31:48Speaker 1: match together? And part of the problem was that some
- 31:51Speaker 1: of the things that were in the news were properties
- 31:53Speaker 1: that we had recently mashed up with other stuff, and
- 31:55Speaker 1: we don't we don't take properties off the list once
- 31:58Speaker 1: we use them, but we don't want to re use
- 32:00Speaker 1: them too frequently, right or too close together. So do
- 32:06Speaker 1: you know why I picked the two properties that I picked?
- 32:09Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, So, first of all, the two properties
- 32:12Speaker 1: we picked were West Side Story and Dune. I said,
- 32:16Speaker 1: I picked because I pitched it. But he he did pick.
- 32:19Speaker 1: He pitched it, he came up with it. It's all
- 32:21Speaker 1: his faults. Um. So the reason why I picked that
- 32:25Speaker 1: is because the Set Decorator Society of America nominated Dune
- 32:31Speaker 1: and West Side Story for awards, So they're technically in
- 32:35Speaker 1: the news right now. I mean West Side Stories also
- 32:38Speaker 1: in the news because the woman who played Anito one
- 32:42Speaker 1: was it a golden Globe? Oh did she? That's fantastic.
- 32:44Speaker 1: I'm I have stopped paying attention to awards for the
- 32:48Speaker 1: most part. This was just one of those headlines that
- 32:49Speaker 1: I happened to see. So I don't know if that's
- 32:52Speaker 1: a correct award, but I do know it's the same
- 32:53Speaker 1: award that Rita Moreno won for playing that role. Fantastic,
- 32:58Speaker 1: and so it was that kind of made new because
- 33:00Speaker 1: it was kind of a historical sort of historic sort
- 33:02Speaker 1: of happening. Um, I haven't watched it. Turns out, I'm
- 33:07Speaker 1: listening to the music for West Side Story, but I've
- 33:09Speaker 1: never watched. So I've seen the original film adaptation of
- 33:12Speaker 1: West Side Story. I've never seen a theatrical like a
- 33:15Speaker 1: stage theater production. I've never seen the production. Uh, and
- 33:18Speaker 1: I haven't seen the new Steven Spielberg produced movie. However,
- 33:22Speaker 1: we do need to explain what West Side Story is
- 33:24Speaker 1: for people who aren't familiar. It is it is that
- 33:28Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet. I mean it's it's not even essentially
- 33:31Speaker 1: it is Romeo and Juliet, but it's set in New
- 33:34Speaker 1: York and you have some New Yorkers, some like Native
- 33:39Speaker 1: New Yorkers, and some uh, immigrants from Puerto Rico. And
- 33:44Speaker 1: those are your two like those are your capulets. And
- 33:46Speaker 1: Montague is right, it's not those Sharks and Jets. Yeah, Sharks,
- 33:50Speaker 1: the Sharks and the Jets, the Jets being the native
- 33:53Speaker 1: New Yorker gang and the Sharks being the Puerto Rican gang.
- 33:56Speaker 1: And uh, and you have the story of U Maria
- 34:00Speaker 1: and Tolony and they and they're and they're they're forbidden
- 34:06Speaker 1: love and you know, it's a it's a musical. They
- 34:08Speaker 1: have big musical numbers, and but it tells the story.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Some of them were great. Uh. Stephen Sondheim worked on them,
- 34:16Speaker 1: although he was he was not super happy with that
- 34:20Speaker 1: assignment because he felt that he was really, uh, it
- 34:22Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't his project. He was working on someone
- 34:25Speaker 1: else's project and he didn't have full freedom of it.
- 34:27Speaker 1: And he felt that the push was to make the
- 34:31Speaker 1: language in the songs too poetic, and he felt that
- 34:33Speaker 1: that was not realistic considering the characters that were singing
- 34:37Speaker 1: these songs. He's like, these, these shouldn't be poetic songs.
- 34:40Speaker 1: But he lost the battle on that one. Um. Anyway, Uh,
- 34:44Speaker 1: some of the songs are fantastic, apparently, some of them
- 34:47Speaker 1: are just okay, and some of them, I guess Aeriel
- 34:50Speaker 1: thinks are bad. I don't know about the modern versions
- 34:53Speaker 1: because I haven't listened to them, but I'm thinking about
- 34:55Speaker 1: like the classic stage version and the original film. And
- 34:59Speaker 1: then obviously we've got to talk about Dune, Frank Herbert novel,
- 35:03Speaker 1: which is just basically Robio and Juliet but with a
- 35:06Speaker 1: lot more gangs and sandworms, um and what and sand ms? Yes, no,
- 35:13Speaker 1: so so Dunes A Dune is a big adventure science
- 35:18Speaker 1: fiction tale. Do you want to take a stab at
- 35:20Speaker 1: giving kind of an explanation of what Dune is? Yes, So,
- 35:24Speaker 1: the the universe, the galaxy is ruled by like an emperor,
- 35:28Speaker 1: and they are all of these different like ruling houses
- 35:31Speaker 1: like the Harconansia treatise things like that and they all
- 35:33Speaker 1: trade out power. Um. And there's one like really important planet.
- 35:38Speaker 1: I'm sure there are other important plants, but like the
- 35:40Speaker 1: main important planet when you jump into doing Arakis, which
- 35:43Speaker 1: is um really the home to a group of people
- 35:45Speaker 1: called the Fremen. And as Jonathan said earlier, sandworms. Uh,
- 35:51Speaker 1: and they produce a thing called spice which has a
- 35:57Speaker 1: whole bunch of like crazy properties and think a Naples
- 36:00Speaker 1: enables space tracks. Yes, they feed it to their navigators,
- 36:04Speaker 1: which allows the navigators to essentially allows them to see
- 36:08Speaker 1: into the future so that they can avoid stars and stuff.
- 36:11Speaker 1: And it's what allows interstellar navigation without worrying about colliding
- 36:14Speaker 1: with something at like light speed. Yeah, and so the
- 36:18Speaker 1: the like the main character is Paula Trades, the first
- 36:22Speaker 1: main character i'd say, and his family takes control of Aracus,
- 36:26Speaker 1: this this main important planet from the previous rulers, the Harkonens,
- 36:31Speaker 1: and then it's like this big subterfuge battle. They get
- 36:34Speaker 1: like ambushed and most of them get killed and uh, Paula,
- 36:39Speaker 1: Paula Trades and his mother get sent into the desert
- 36:43Speaker 1: and get kind of rescued, taking him by Fremen. And
- 36:45Speaker 1: then it's just like this huge galactic political intrigue thing
- 36:51Speaker 1: that happens. So for the span of many, many books,
- 36:52Speaker 1: there's a lot of really cool concepts and and type
- 36:56Speaker 1: of like character classes I would say in the books
- 36:59Speaker 1: that don't necessarily get covered in the main or explained
- 37:03Speaker 1: or shown a whole lot in like the main the
- 37:05Speaker 1: new movie, like mentats, which are have like these incredible
- 37:09Speaker 1: mathematical powers. They're supposed to be super logical and great tacticians.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so like worth reading the books even if
- 37:19Speaker 1: you watched the movie and you didn't necessarily like it
- 37:21Speaker 1: because it was slow and you didn't understand much. So
- 37:23Speaker 1: those are two properties, aerial, do you want to go first?
- 37:27Speaker 1: I understand yours right to the point. Mine is real,
- 37:31Speaker 1: real small, real real short, and real real dumb. And
- 37:36Speaker 1: it's called West Side Spicy and it's not because it's
- 37:40Speaker 1: a spicy story. So but anyhow, New York was in
- 37:43Speaker 1: a drought and a street gang known as the Shark
- 37:46Speaker 1: Conan's controlled the water supply, and the Iraq Jets Arrival
- 37:51Speaker 1: street gang who dealt in spices didn't like that. You see,
- 37:55Speaker 1: the spices were in fact spicy, and with the Sharkonan's
- 37:58Speaker 1: boat guarding all the water, their spice sales were down,
- 38:01Speaker 1: just how the Sharkonans planned it. This is like super
- 38:04Speaker 1: loosely based on anything. Uh. The two sides were constantly
- 38:09Speaker 1: on each other's turf and starting street skirmishes. Then one
- 38:13Speaker 1: day a new family moved to town right around the
- 38:15Speaker 1: time of the high school spring Fling and took over
- 38:18Speaker 1: the Sharkonan's. The new family had a son named paul
- 38:21Speaker 1: Tony like you know, like you do uh and his
- 38:27Speaker 1: He went to the spring fling because his parents told
- 38:29Speaker 1: him it would be good for him, and that's where
- 38:32Speaker 1: he met a girl named Chania, girl named Only problem
- 38:40Speaker 1: is the girl was a part of the eracchets. Being teenagers,
- 38:43Speaker 1: so they didn't care and they fell in love. Chania
- 38:46Speaker 1: would step sneak paul Tony spice and paul Tony would
- 38:49Speaker 1: sneak Chania water and they would sneak around to see
- 38:53Speaker 1: each other. Only one other person knew, and that was
- 38:56Speaker 1: Banita jess It, but she promised to keep it a
- 38:59Speaker 1: secret because you know, young love. Then one day the
- 39:02Speaker 1: families caught wind of what paul Tony and Chania were doing.
- 39:05Speaker 1: They tracked them down to find them all spicing and
- 39:08Speaker 1: hydrating around together and the turf floor was escalated. Both
- 39:11Speaker 1: sides pulled out weapons and immediately realized they had escalated
- 39:15Speaker 1: things too hide, but they couldn't back down, so they
- 39:17Speaker 1: started puffing and stomping and snapping and dancing around trying
- 39:20Speaker 1: to intimidate the other side away instead of the bloodshed
- 39:23Speaker 1: that was about to happen, while still saving face. It
- 39:26Speaker 1: was a huge rugas while shook, streets echoed and spice
- 39:29Speaker 1: and water flowed into the New York sewer system. And
- 39:32Speaker 1: that's when they felt it an earthquake, or so they thought.
- 39:36Speaker 1: And then the ground split open and a giant mutant
- 39:39Speaker 1: snake worm who had been hiding and growing in the
- 39:41Speaker 1: sewer subway system emerged from the ground, called by the
- 39:45Speaker 1: spice that had just entered its domain. As it rose
- 39:47Speaker 1: up out of the ground, it devoured everything above it,
- 39:49Speaker 1: including all of the sharkonans and the Iraq shetions, before
- 39:53Speaker 1: disappearing once more into the underground tunnels. When the dust cleared,
- 39:57Speaker 1: Paul Tony and Chania were the only ones left. The
- 40:00Speaker 1: high tailed it away from the scene of the crime
- 40:03Speaker 1: before the cops arrived, and then high tailed it away
- 40:05Speaker 1: from the city to start a new life in Nevada,
- 40:07Speaker 1: where they got married. Jania was partial to deserts, and
- 40:11Speaker 1: so they lived happily ever after. Yes, you gave Romeo
- 40:15Speaker 1: and Juliette a happy ending where everybody except Romeo and
- 40:19Speaker 1: Juliette dies. I I wanted to be kind of original
- 40:24Speaker 1: and also like if you look at Romeo and Juliet
- 40:26Speaker 1: and then you look at West Side Story, the ends
- 40:28Speaker 1: are like slightly different. Um, yeah, you can tell that
- 40:33Speaker 1: we don't share these with each other before we record,
- 40:37Speaker 1: because Sharkonan took me by such surprise, and my first
- 40:41Speaker 1: reaction was that's brilliant, and my second reaction was, I
- 40:45Speaker 1: can't believe I missed that joke. It was real hard
- 40:51Speaker 1: because like, the Harconans are like the super creepy family,
- 40:55Speaker 1: and the love story is between Paula Trades and Johnny
- 40:59Speaker 1: from but I don't even know that's our last name.
- 41:01Speaker 1: So it was real hard to make it. But I couldn't.
- 41:03Speaker 1: I couldn't pass. We'll see when we get to mine.
- 41:06Speaker 1: I had a similar issue because who do you make
- 41:10Speaker 1: the antagonist when you're trying to force the story. However,
- 41:14Speaker 1: before we get to that, this episode is gonna run long,
- 41:17Speaker 1: so we're gonna take a quick break. I thought for
- 41:30Speaker 1: sure we are going to make it. Jathan, I thought
- 41:33Speaker 1: so before the episodes started. You told me your mashup
- 41:36Speaker 1: was two paragraphs, and that felt like if that was
- 41:39Speaker 1: two paragraphs, those were long paragraphs. It was they were.
- 41:42Speaker 1: They're like this big. They're like a podcast big. They're
- 41:49Speaker 1: like two inches long each in like eleven point five
- 41:53Speaker 1: aerial on Google Docs. Yes, that's where I read all
- 41:55Speaker 1: my mashups currently. I felt there was some extemporaneous addition
- 42:00Speaker 1: in there too. It's not many. It was fifty eight.
- 42:03Speaker 1: It's fifty It's fifty eight pages with mashups. People. Wow,
- 42:07Speaker 1: So just keep adding him to the same document. Yes, Oh,
- 42:10Speaker 1: I make a new document for every single one. And
- 42:12Speaker 1: this one, my friends, is called West Spice Story. Uh.
- 42:18Speaker 1: And before I jump into it, um, there's gonna be
- 42:21Speaker 1: references to stuff in Dune that's gonna make no sense
- 42:25Speaker 1: if you don't know what Dune is, like Benny jests
- 42:28Speaker 1: and things like that. But you're just gonna have to
- 42:31Speaker 1: roll with it because I'm not gonna explain. They're intrigued nuns. Yes,
- 42:35Speaker 1: they are intrigued magical intrigue. Magical intrigue nuns. Imagine a
- 42:41Speaker 1: little Finger from Game of Thrones if he were a nun. Okay, okay,
- 42:46Speaker 1: here we go. Paula Trades has a problem. His father,
- 42:51Speaker 1: the Duke, expects Paul to handle the responsibilities of being
- 42:55Speaker 1: a duke. His mother, Jessica, has secretly trained Paul in
- 42:59Speaker 1: the ways of the been a Jesuit, and both of
- 43:01Speaker 1: them don't like his new girlfriend, Johnny, one of the
- 43:04Speaker 1: fremen of the desert world of Araucus. And then there's
- 43:08Speaker 1: that dang baron Harkconan to deal with. Paul spends his
- 43:12Speaker 1: days with a few other young men, originally from Caladan,
- 43:15Speaker 1: that's where his father ruled before their lives were overturned
- 43:18Speaker 1: and they got sent to Araucus. And this gang, including
- 43:22Speaker 1: Paul's close friend Duncan Idaho, which for the purposes of
- 43:25Speaker 1: this mashup, is more like Paul's age, like to go
- 43:28Speaker 1: around snapping their fingers, dancing and singing, and Paul starts
- 43:33Speaker 1: it off. When you're red duke, you're bound to go
- 43:37Speaker 1: far from your first dose of spice to your last
- 43:41Speaker 1: comb jabbar. When you're red duke gets a job that's
- 43:45Speaker 1: long term. As you dodge in ms and sometimes a sandworm,
- 43:50Speaker 1: you'r who's in charge, no matter how it's fair. In
- 43:53Speaker 1: elite a Rakis and leave Kaladin to the baron and
- 43:57Speaker 1: we ain't caring. Here comes the Duke, like a man
- 44:01Speaker 1: who's on fire. He's bound to become the Benny jest Messiah.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Here comes the Duke and his girlfriend is fine. She'd
- 44:10Speaker 1: make a great wife, or at least conkubine. The Duke
- 44:14Speaker 1: is in charge of our entire nation, fears the little
- 44:18Speaker 1: death that brings the blitteration. I need a vacation, and
- 44:22Speaker 1: then the song ends because I can't. I seriously, I
- 44:25Speaker 1: just can't go any longer than that. Anyway, after the introduction,
- 44:29Speaker 1: we see that Paul really wants to sneak off to
- 44:31Speaker 1: see his girlfriend Chahnny. But the Fremen object to house
- 44:34Speaker 1: of trainees, and house of traintees objects to the freemen,
- 44:38Speaker 1: and the ben a jeserit sure as heck fire object
- 44:41Speaker 1: to the Fremen, but then they also object to Paul
- 44:43Speaker 1: because he was never supposed to happen. But Paul's mom, Jessica,
- 44:47Speaker 1: she totally let the cat out of the bag years ago,
- 44:49Speaker 1: and now we're all stuck here, I guess. Anyway, just
- 44:52Speaker 1: as Paul is about to sneak off to see Chahnny,
- 44:54Speaker 1: he runs into someone who has other plans, and that
- 44:57Speaker 1: someone is, of course, the Fear Howatt, the Master Assassin,
- 45:02Speaker 1: who wants to train Paul and tactics. So the fear
- 45:05Speaker 1: tells Paul he ain't going nowhere, which just prompts another
- 45:08Speaker 1: song the fair How what I'm really upset? I never
- 45:14Speaker 1: get the free time that I do gotta get. I
- 45:17Speaker 1: ain't no tactician. I'm just a young teen, and I'm
- 45:21Speaker 1: tired of you being mean, being mean, being mean, being mean,
- 45:26Speaker 1: being so darned mean. I am tired of you being mean.
- 45:31Speaker 1: I study every weapon that you put in my hand.
- 45:34Speaker 1: I know the pointy bits supposed to go and the
- 45:36Speaker 1: other man. I know the really fast bullets will bounce
- 45:39Speaker 1: right off my shield. How can I see the girlfriend
- 45:42Speaker 1: that I've concealed. I've concealed. I've concealed, I've completely sealed. Yes,
- 45:48Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend I've concealed. And then he realizes
- 45:52Speaker 1: he's just confessed in song, which is a rookie mistake.
- 45:56Speaker 1: That evening, it's another night with the pain box. That's
- 46:00Speaker 1: what his father, Ledo calls television. Paul is able to
- 46:03Speaker 1: withstand it, but only barely, and late at night, when
- 46:07Speaker 1: the house is quiet, he stealthily makes his way out
- 46:10Speaker 1: of the house, using all the tricks he has learned
- 46:12Speaker 1: from his various mentors to sneak out into the waists
- 46:15Speaker 1: of a racus. There After traveling for more than an hour,
- 46:20Speaker 1: he makes his way to a secret spot, the spot
- 46:23Speaker 1: where Channie meets with him, so that the two might
- 46:25Speaker 1: make google eyes at each other. And he sees Channi
- 46:28Speaker 1: approach and she smiles at him, and then of course
- 46:33Speaker 1: they sing tonight tonight. The sand worms all take flight,
- 46:40Speaker 1: but only as metathors in our song tonight tonight, because
- 46:48Speaker 1: the worms aren't very light. No, they're big, and they're
- 46:52Speaker 1: mean and they're long. Those worms they'll eat you in
- 46:58Speaker 1: a minute if you are standing near them, and don't
- 47:02Speaker 1: dodge to the right. But here we are, and our
- 47:07Speaker 1: fear of sandworm seems so far tonight in anyway. That's
- 47:13Speaker 1: when Baron Harconan attacks. And the Baron, well, you know,
- 47:16Speaker 1: he's played by one of those stage actors who always
- 47:18Speaker 1: gets cast in musicals, but in a non musical role,
- 47:22Speaker 1: you know, the actor who usually plays a supporting part,
- 47:25Speaker 1: or maybe they're the villain. And it's not that they
- 47:28Speaker 1: can't sing or dance, it's just that they never get
- 47:31Speaker 1: the chance to and maybe that eats on them, you know,
- 47:35Speaker 1: maybe that's the kind of thing that drives a person
- 47:38Speaker 1: to become a villain when that person gets cast in
- 47:41Speaker 1: every musical in high school but never gets a singing part, right,
- 47:45Speaker 1: Mrs Thompson, Maybe that's the kind of thing that drives
- 47:48Speaker 1: a person to, I don't know, become a professional podcaster
- 47:52Speaker 1: and record ads about Casper Mattresses. Ever think about that,
- 47:56Speaker 1: Mrs Thompson, Of course not, you're too busy casting me
- 47:59Speaker 1: as Captain Racket, who doesn't even show up in any
- 48:02Speaker 1: ensemble musical numbers in South Pacific. Thanks a lot. Anyway,
- 48:07Speaker 1: the baron attacks and it's like awful, and it turns
- 48:11Speaker 1: out the Tradees doctor Toats sold them out even though
- 48:14Speaker 1: he was supposed to be mentally conditioned to not be
- 48:16Speaker 1: able to do that. Whoop see, And so Paul's entire
- 48:19Speaker 1: family gets wiped out. So this sets up naturally a
- 48:22Speaker 1: big dance where Paul, the few surviving members of House
- 48:25Speaker 1: of Tradees, the Fremen, and the Arconans are all going
- 48:28Speaker 1: to be at the same dance for different reasons. And
- 48:30Speaker 1: that's when we get the mambo of death, which goes
- 48:33Speaker 1: like this, dunt dunt duntu dunt dunt dunt dunt dunt
- 48:36Speaker 1: dunt dunt dune mambo pe pue lasers, and then there's
- 48:40Speaker 1: this quiet bit after some of the fighting where we
- 48:43Speaker 1: get Paul and Shanny and they sing, there's much laungche
- 48:48Speaker 1: for us somewhere, Launch for us, Spice for me and
- 48:59Speaker 1: spice for you. We're tripping hard from this spicy goo
- 49:07Speaker 1: mi lunch. And then the fighting looks like it's gonna
- 49:10Speaker 1: start again, but our movie has been pretty long so far,
- 49:13Speaker 1: so it kind of just ends, and they are going
- 49:15Speaker 1: to be another one, probably, but you're gonna have to
- 49:17Speaker 1: wait a couple of years. The end. I loved it.
- 49:21Speaker 1: Also apparently so did Walter, my other cat, because he
- 49:25Speaker 1: was rubbing up against the microphone and all that. Uh.
- 49:30Speaker 1: That one was very fun for me to do. I
- 49:32Speaker 1: have never been in Westside stories, so that's the closest
- 49:35Speaker 1: I'm ever gonna get listen. I I also have been
- 49:40Speaker 1: cast in many musical roles that had less singing than
- 49:44Speaker 1: I cared for. That was that was that? Okay? So
- 49:47Speaker 1: I sometimes put in some autobiographical rants in my mashups,
- 49:51Speaker 1: I admit, But to be fair, first of all, I
- 49:53Speaker 1: didn't have a Mrs Thompson as a drama teacher. I
- 49:56Speaker 1: was about to say, way to put her. I did
- 49:58Speaker 1: not I did not do at and second of all,
- 50:01Speaker 1: Um actually was in several musicals where I had at
- 50:04Speaker 1: least a small singing role, like I was the rabbi
- 50:06Speaker 1: and fiddler on the roof, and he sings a little
- 50:08Speaker 1: bit mostly where the Pirate captain and Romeo and Ethel
- 50:11Speaker 1: the Pirates. That's not a high school play. Yes, as
- 50:16Speaker 1: the rabbi. I played the dad uh at McAfee in
- 50:20Speaker 1: Um Bye Bye Birdie, and he has two songs so um,
- 50:24Speaker 1: which just shows you that my high school was really
- 50:26Speaker 1: hard up to get male students to audition, because if
- 50:30Speaker 1: they have to cast me in a singing role, things
- 50:32Speaker 1: have gone south pretty pretty quickly. I think you're you
- 50:37Speaker 1: are perfectly fine singer. I'm very hoarse today because this
- 50:41Speaker 1: is the third show I've recorded, so even when I'm
- 50:44Speaker 1: in good voice, it's not great. And I'm not in
- 50:47Speaker 1: good voice tonight. I really feel like at some point
- 50:50Speaker 1: we should next time there's like musical news, we should
- 50:54Speaker 1: write some parodies like that should be our thing, okay,
- 50:58Speaker 1: instead of a mash up, we should just write I'm
- 51:00Speaker 1: clearly not above it. So but yes, that was that
- 51:05Speaker 1: was my goofy attempt at creating a doone west Side
- 51:08Speaker 1: story mash up and arial. I loved yours and uh
- 51:12Speaker 1: and we invite you the audience if you have ideas
- 51:15Speaker 1: for mashups. Either you want to submit one of your own,
- 51:18Speaker 1: like you wanted to show us what you can do
- 51:20Speaker 1: mashing up a couple of properties, let us know, or
- 51:23Speaker 1: if you have suggestions for different ones that we should
- 51:27Speaker 1: mash up together. Because some weeks are like this where
- 51:31Speaker 1: the there aren't obvious candidates, right like if we had
- 51:35Speaker 1: mashed up Moon Night with something, first of all, I
- 51:39Speaker 1: would have had to do a ton of research on
- 51:41Speaker 1: Moonnight because I don't really know that much about them.
- 51:43Speaker 1: So yeah, um, but yes, feel free to reach out,
- 51:46Speaker 1: and you can do that in numerous ways. One way
- 51:49Speaker 1: is to send us an email. We've received a couple recently,
- 51:52Speaker 1: which is great. Keep them coming, and all of your
- 51:55Speaker 1: suggestions we have on our spreadsheet to do. That's true,
- 51:57Speaker 1: we do and we will gladly add to it. Keep
- 52:00Speaker 1: in mind again, just as a reminder, if you're going
- 52:03Speaker 1: to suggest a mash up pairing, make sure they're not
- 52:06Speaker 1: too similar already, because the more similar they are, the
- 52:10Speaker 1: less there is to do. Right, There's there's not as
- 52:13Speaker 1: many do do fee choices to make, but yes, you
- 52:16Speaker 1: can write us. The address for the show is l
- 52:19Speaker 1: n C at I heart media dot com. Yes, you
- 52:23Speaker 1: can also contact us on social media just just say
- 52:27Speaker 1: hi or to give us your thoughts. On Instagram and
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- 52:34Speaker 1: we are l n C Underscore Podcast. I check those
- 52:36Speaker 1: make sure they like tig us because if you just
- 52:38Speaker 1: put something and you don't, I may not see it,
- 52:42Speaker 1: but then I will share it with Jonathan and we
- 52:44Speaker 1: will both be very happy. Yes, yes, I like to
- 52:47Speaker 1: be reminded that there is a world outside my well,
- 52:50Speaker 1: it's not my apartment. I was gonna make another musical
- 52:52Speaker 1: reference because that's an avenue queue song. But I like
- 52:56Speaker 1: to be reminded that there's a world outside of my
- 52:57Speaker 1: own little existence because I don't do social old media
- 53:00Speaker 1: anymore except occasionally Twitter. That's about it. Of your own
- 53:04Speaker 1: little corner in your own little room. Yeah, that's pretty
- 53:06Speaker 1: much where I stay all the time now. So whatever
- 53:09Speaker 1: you want to be. But this was a lot of fun.
- 53:13Speaker 1: As always, I greatly appreciate my wonderful co host Ariel.
- 53:17Speaker 1: Thank you. I greatly appreciate you too. Jonathan thank you,
- 53:20Speaker 1: and until next time. I have been Jonathan trade Ees
- 53:26Speaker 1: Strickland and I have been Ariel. I feel pretty cast
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