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Can the Vikings’ Offense Pull Its Weight Against Detroit? · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Starts.
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  You are here today for a tailgate preview of the Minnesota Vikings against the Detroit
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  lions.
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  I am joined again by my cohost, Selly Anahoro.
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  Selly, welcome back in, brother.
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  Thank you, man.
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  It's awesome to be back.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, in this week, we are taking on the Detroit lions, a division rival.
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  I know that you've deep dived this team from Detroit already.
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  I'm excited to get into it, maybe learn a little bit more, and, see how...
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  And if the Vikings can get a big w this Sunday.
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  And their first real test, I'd say, almost since week one, I don't really count week two
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  in the, fishbowl at Scolger Field as much of a a barometer of anything other than, you know,
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  survival.
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  But, the team is six and o.
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  They continue to win even with the offense continuing to stumble a bit.
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  Now it hasn't been putrid.
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  I wouldn't say that, but I think the expectations were just so much higher with the
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  veteran quarterback, Kyler Murray, coming in with this team.
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  It's just taking it a little while to really get things clicking on all cylinders.
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  Yeah.
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  I would agree with you there.
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  Division opponent, obviously, I think this is probably the the best division in all of
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  football.
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  The division opponent, great offense, great coach, just great skill positions on the other
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  side, top top three running back with a defense, which has actually been playing well
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  the past couple of weeks.
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  So I I think it's gonna be a big test for the Vikings sacks, and it's gonna be a nationally
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  televised game on Fox.
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  I think the a team's gonna be there with Burkhart or Burkhart with Brady.
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  So I think it's gonna be a big test to show the nation what they're truly made of.
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  No.
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  Burkhart and Brady, back to back weeks in the Motor City.
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  The Detroit lions coming off a big win against their...
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  Another North rival, the Green Bay packers.
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  They win it in walk off fashion.
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  Obviously, the Vikings pull off the win against the Indianapolis colts, although a a little
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  lackluster still, but this defense continues to do exactly what it's done all season, create
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  chaos, get to the quarterback, and then drive takeaways.
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  Harrison Smith getting his fortieth career interception.
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  We would be remiss if we didn't start with a huge congratulation to Harry, number 22 in
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  purple and gold on, what will be, I I think, a first ballot hall of fame career.
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  I agree.
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  I've I've been a fan of Harrison Smith for his whole career.
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  I I believe he's gonna be a hall of famer as well.
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  This defense has just been unbelievable.
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  Like, it's honest...
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  It's honestly comical when I watch TV, and they put up the numbers and the graphics of 12.8
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  points per game.
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  And I think the next closest team is the chiefs with, like, 17 points a game given up, and I
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  think a lot of other teams are, like, 17, 17, 19.
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  So, like, just 12 points a game is just comical.
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  And these are...
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  These aren't, like, bad QBs they're playing.
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  I mean, I know Daniel Jones, people have mixed reviews about him, but he's not terrible.
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  Like, he's he's a solid player in this league, and he...
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  I think he only threw for, like, 64 yards.
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  Yeah.
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  It's crazy what they've done to these quarterbacks.
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  The last three, four weeks has just been, absolutely cra...
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  I can't remember the last time they gave up, like, a 150 yards of passing.
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  I think that they've held a bunch of them under a 100 yards of passing.
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  That's insane.
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  And, like, I I know it rained when they played the bears.
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  However, if you've seen the bears play literally anybody else, they go up and down the
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  field.
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  They own...
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  They look like the 1999 rams sometimes, and it's just like the Vikings held them to three
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  points.
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  It's just like like, no matter, like, what the weather was.
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  So the whole...
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  That team to three points is just insane.
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  Well...
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  And and made Caleb Williams look quite pedestrian.
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  They didn't really allow him to get out of the pocket a lot.
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  I thought they did a really good job of containing, you know, the scrambling
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  quarterbacks that they have.
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  You know, they they obviously went up against Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on
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  the same thing.
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  I think there was containment.
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  If they did lose containment, he was going backwards and on the play where he ended up
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  breaking his thumb.
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  And I know he made a huge comeback here last week in his return to play, but they had a, you
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  know, they chased him 40 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
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  Right?
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  Like, if that's how a guy's breaking containment, then so be it.
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  We're gonna we're gonna let him have that any day of the week.
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  So I I think it's been impressive what they've done, but now they're facing, by far their
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  toughest test of the season with this whole stretch of games.
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  You get the lions this week.
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  You're looking forward to the bills and then the packers before taking on the forty niners
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  in Mexico City.
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  This is a gauntlet for them, and and they have to prove that they can win games.
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  The respect level on the national side is still about as low as it can get.
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  Not a lot of people respecting the offense at all and for good reason.
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  Kyler Murray last week, 14 to 24, 150 yards.
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  He did have the big 30 plus yard scramble to set up the touchdown, but that's not gonna be
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  good enough when you're playing teams that are gonna possibly hang a 20 spot on your on your
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  defense.
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  Yeah.
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  I would...
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  The the toughest test by far, the lions in a dome.
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  So we know, obviously, weather's not gonna be a factor.
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  It's probably...
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  I would say the defense has played offenses that are just as good.
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  Like, the bears were like...
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  The lions pose a lot of different challenges with jay...
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  Jameson Williams, Amon Rasseem Brown, Sam Laporta, and then Jamere Gibbs who honestly is
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  just...
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  Forget running backs.
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  He's just one of the best players in the league period.
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  Just a touchdown machine.
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  The respect thing, I I agree with you.
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  They're the last undefeated team.
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  Both, the the niners lost over the weekend, the chiefs lost over the weekend in broad fashion.
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  And they they still don't get the respect they deserve, which is kinda odd, but I I do
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  think...
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  I mean, Greg Jennings was...
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  I saw Greg Jennings was talking about this before.
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  I think a lot of it is just because of the history of the team.
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  When they had the the the year when they were winning games by, like, one possession, like,
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  it felt like every single game with the Kirk Cousins year, and then they ended up losing, to
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  Daniel Jones, ironically, in the Giants.
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  He he was saying, like, people were saying I was gonna be their Achilles heel the whole
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  season, and then it showed up in the postseason.
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  So he was saying, like, there are people who are gonna believe if the offense doesn't show
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  up eventually, it it could bite them in the postseason.
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  And it's true.
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  When when you get to the postseason, every team is good or most of the teams are good.
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  And if you play...
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  If you end up...
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  If you don't get the buy and you end up playing...
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  Because a lot of these teams in the wild card round probably gonna be from the, NFC West.
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  So you could be playing a Rams team if they got us together.
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  You could be playing a Seattle team if if they don't, make it to the...
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  If they don't win the division.
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  And those teams are really good on offense, and you're gonna have to put up some points.
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  So it has to be at some point, Kyler and, Kevin O'Connell have to figure this thing out because
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  I think the fans have waited enough for weeks.
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  And I'm not saying you have to put up 45 points.
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  Did you at least put up, like, a...
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  Give give the fans a 30 game at least to make them feel good?
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  Well...
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  And I don't know that they're gonna get a chance to do that this week.
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  They may be a a little bit more fortunate on Monday night football against the Bills, which
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  we'll talk more about that as we get closer.
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  But as you mentioned, this Detroit defense has been playing a little bit better now getting a
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  player like Brian Branch back onto the field after, you know, I think it was an injury last
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  season that had kept him out for most of that.
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  And now getting back active on his side, looked much better.
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  Aiden Hutchinson has to be the headline anytime you're talking about this lions defense and and
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  what he can do from that defensive end position.
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  And, really, they could play him just about anywhere.
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  The guy's a a freak athlete as well, but they're gonna try to cause a bit of chaos for
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  this Vikings offense to play against.
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  And with Jordan Mason coming back and really just getting his feet wet and shaking that rust
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  off, You're gonna need him to...
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  I would say even more so than a Kyler Murray getting on track.
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  You need Jordan Mason to go out there and at least be able to replicate what you are getting
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  out of Aaron Jones in his absence.
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  Yeah.
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  The defense has been playing a lot better.
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  Branch coming back is a huge deal.
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  I don't know when Kirby Joseph is due to come back, but I I think both of them started the
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  the year on the pop list.
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  So, like, the defense struggled.
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  They were just playing anybody in the secondary.
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  They were playing, like, fourth, fifth stringers at safety.
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  So, like, they were getting just absolutely shredded to the point where Chris Collinsworth
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  was like, well, to the point where it's Kelvin Shepherd just doesn't have the players back
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  here to even do anything.
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  I agree with you.
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  Hutch Hutch is just a great player, game wrecker.
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  Spin move is elite, so you got...
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  Always gotta be...
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  Darisaw or whoever, O'Neil on the other side, you always gotta be prepared for it.
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  Secondary, linebacker's good with Campbell too.
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  So, like, they have players at, like, every level.
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  DJ Reed, though, really been struggling this year.
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  He's either been dead last or second to the last and, like, just, like, yards allowed.
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  The teams have been targeting targeting him all year.
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  And he used to he used to play for the Jets, and I swear he was a good player.
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  And I still think he is a good player.
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  It's just he's just not having a good year right now.
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  So if I was, if I was the Vikings, so I was KOC, I would find a way to to get JJ on him or
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  put JJ in the slot because I think this could be a really big...
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  I mean, I'm...
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  I know we've said this for a while, but this could actually be the week where JJ breaks out
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  if they target him, especially if DJ Reed is on him.
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  Well...
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  And I think Tucker Kraft, as he often does last week, got away for a few.
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  Can this be another game, like the one, against the Dolphins where you're targeting TJ
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  Hockinson consistently and getting a lot of yards out of that tight end position.
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  Now my fear would be that, you're probably bringing Hawk in quite a bit to help on the
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  blocking side as you're still, shorthanded there, with Joe Huber at left guard who got
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  bullied around, by DeForest Buckner and company against the Indianapolis Colts.
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  I think that caused a lot of problems both for the running game and in the passing game as
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  well.
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  It didn't hurt you in the win loss column, but it exposed some weaknesses on that side of the
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  ball and on that offensive line.
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  So, hopefully, they can get a few of those things cleaned up and find a way to continue to
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  get Juwan Jennings going.
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  We finally had a a Juwan Jennings sighting and a couple of catches and some production out of
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  that side of the ball.
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  Jordan Addison had a great catch on a ball that ended up getting called back on a penalty on
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  Sunday with the Vikings.
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  So you kinda hate to see that because I think he is.
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  I give him a hard time here, but I I feel like he's being used a little bit more into his
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  strengths this year.
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  They're finding ways to get him the ball.
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  Just unfortunate when, you know, a 40 plus yard play is getting called back because of a
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  penalty, which once again is coming from offense or, you know, offensive line kind of
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  poor play.
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  Will Fry's has had a really rough go of it this year.
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  Brian O'Neil not playing like the best version of himself either.
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  I I think the knee...
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  I don't wanna say injury, but some knee soreness and everything that he's been kinda
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  playing through is obviously giving him some troubles.
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  And now Aaron Jones, we know he's playing on a sprained MCL, took an awkward fall on it early
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  in the game Sunday.
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  They're listing him as day to day.
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  We'll see.
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  I didn't check the injury reports today for everybody, but I guess I could pull that up.
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  While you tell me a little bit more about this lions offense, Jared Goff playing absolutely
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  out of his mind so far this season?
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  Yeah.
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  He hasn't thrown an interception all year.
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  So he's playing well.
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  He's gonna be...
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  He's in the most valuable player race for sure, the way he's playing.
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  This offense is just...
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  There's just a...
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  There's great players everywhere.
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  One thing's different.
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  I think I don't...
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  Vikings fans, maybe they know, maybe they don't.
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  Penasu will now play on the left side.
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  So, like, no no more no more on the right side.
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  He's still a great player on the left side.
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  No more Montgomery, so Gibbs is basically an every down back now.
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  27 carries last week against the packers.
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  Just a touchdown machine.
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  J Mo, obviously, the threat...
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  The vertical threat over the top.
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  Amonra catching those balls in the in the slot, possession receiver, Laporta.
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  And then they've just bounced back from which...
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  From...
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  I mean, they're not exactly the Ben Johnson led offense, but, like, they're pretty close again
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  now after having maybe, like, an off year last year for their standard.
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  The trick plays are always there, so you gotta watch out for the trick plays.
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  And then Riverboat, Dan Campbell, going fourth down, which the more I've watched on TV, the
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  more people who I trust have now being...
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  Are now saying, like, it was the right decision.
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  My guy, Chris Long, said it was the right decision, and and I...
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  Mike Tomlin said it was the right decision.
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  So I was like, alright.
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  Maybe I was wrong.
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  Although No.
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  It's the right decision because they ended up partially blocking the kick.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Like, because you won the game, I guess, that that hindsight being twenty twenty.
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  But at some point, you got a punter that can can flip the field position for you.
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  Don't know why you don't do that.
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  But you know what?
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  At this point, it hasn't really bit him that many times.
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  I think maybe in that one playoff game a few years ago.
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  But you live by the sword and you die by the sword.
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  And when you win, you know, even if it's 60% of the time, you're gonna keep pushing that
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  button.
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  And, really, this team is probably hitting at a rate that's closer to 80%.
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  So you you can't fault him.
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  And if it works out, you don't.
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  And if you...
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  If it doesn't work out, you criticize him then.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, to be fair to me, I didn't think it was the right decision, and Tom Brady felt like he
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  was gonna have a heart attack on the broadcast with some of the decisions they had, what they
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  were doing.
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  So, like, if the goat felt the same way I was feeling, I do feel a little bit better.
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  But, yeah, it's it's gonna be a tough test because this is the first time I think they're
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  playing each other again since the Christmas day game on Netflix, which didn't go well for
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  the lions the last time they played.
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  It did not go well.
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  And that...
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  This Vikings defense, I think, is even more dangerous than they were at that point last
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  year.
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  So I got the injury reports pulled up.
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  For the Vikings, Joe Huber did not participate in Wednesday practice today.
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  Aaron Jones senior neither was a a DNP, and then Brian O'Neil was a limited participant
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  with his knee injury.
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  Now the lion's injury report is actually very, very interesting to me.
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  Kirby Joseph was a limited participant, so we'll see if he's eligible to come back in
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  there.
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  Some other notables in here, Jamere Gibbs with a shoulder, they're reporting did not
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  participate.
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  Aidan Hutchinson, Rest did not participate.
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  Alam McNeil, once again, rest.
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  Painesul with rest as well.
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  Amon Ra St.
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  Brown and ankle listed did not participate.
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  And then DJ Wanham, their other edge, today as well.
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  So I don't know if that's typical for this, lions team to rest these players, but these
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  are, dog fights, and they just came off their bye week.
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  So I can't imagine these guys, you know, nursing something possibly.
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  So something to pay attention to as we go through the rest of the week watching that
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  injury report for the lions and seeing if there's an advantage to be gained for this
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  Vikings team there.
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  Yeah.
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  That's an all pro injury report right there.
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  Yeah.
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  That adds...
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  There's a there's a lot of notable names on there, but it's only Wednesday.
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  Yeah.
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  It's it's Wednesday, so we'll see what that looks like come Friday and and how many DNPs
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  are left on there.
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  But, obviously, they're dealing with some guys that are a little banged up.
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  That's a rough game.
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  I mean, anytime you're playing the packers and you're playing a division rival like that,
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  injuries tend to stack up.
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  You know, we we didn't get out unscathed the last time that we played the packers either
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  with this Vikings team.
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  We lost Jordan Mason and Kyler Murray in that in that single game.
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  So we we know what it's like to have to do that.
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  Selly, what would be a a key for you, let's say, from the Vikings side that they would need
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  to do to make sure they come out with a victory on Sunday?
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  I would say probably complete the deep pass because I I know Jordan Love is a he's a great
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  deep passer, and he's...
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  He might be the best of the league with the moon ball as Russell Wilson used to call it.
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  But, the Lions can be had on deep passes.
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  They they had a lot of...
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  The Packers had a lot of drops last week.
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  I know, the, Packers receivers lead the league in drops, especially, Golden.
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  So I think with Addison, with Justin, there are gonna be, deep passes to be made.
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  You just have to connect you just have to connect them.
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  And, hopefully, Kyler and JJ and, Jordan are on the same page this week because I do think
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  that'll be a big key.
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  Yeah.
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  I...
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  Hard for me not to agree with you.
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  This Vikings offense just has to get rolling.
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  They have to find a way, to to get themselves going in the right direction.
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  They need a bounce back game, and I think to silence a lot of the...
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  I don't wanna call them haters, but the disrespecters, you have to go out and put some
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  points up.
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  And, you know, you can still rely on the defense and your, you know, all pro kicker to
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  carry you, but go pull your weight.
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  Go put up a couple of touchdowns.
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  Keep the game and the time of possession and continue to play that style of ball.
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  I don't have a problem with it.
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  I don't need the wins to be pretty.
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  Just go win football games.
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  That's all I care about right now.
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  But you're gonna need some help, and you're gonna need something out of the offense.
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  And I don't think one touchdown a game is gonna be enough to cut it.
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  They're gonna have to contribute a couple of tuddies this week, and they're gonna have to
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  keep that ball out of Jared Goff's hands because the more possessions you give him, the
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  more times you're giving him to expose, what has been a historic defense up to this point.
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  But the longer they're on the field, the more tired they're getting, and, eventually, things
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  happen.
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  You saw it early on in the game against Indianapolis that Jonathan Taylor was able to
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  break one.
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  Jamere Gibbs is just as capable of breaking a a long run on you at any point during the game.
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  You have to keep the legs fresh, and and you do that by...
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  On the other side of the field, taking care of the football and continuing to, control the
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  time of possession game.
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  And I think if they can do that, there is no reason that they cannot come out with a w from
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  the Motor City on Sunday.
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  Yeah.
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  I I think with the hate...
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  To address the haters thing, I I think just people don't think you can win a Super Bowl
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  with just defense anymore even though...
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  You can make an argument.
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  Seattle kinda did last year, but they obviously had explosive...
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  Had an explosive offense a lot throughout the season.
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  The closest thing we've seen to this is maybe those, the twenty fifteen Denver broncos with,
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  like, an older Peyton.
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  And I don't know if those...
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  If you can still win like that anymore, so I think people probably are skeptical.
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  Obviously, not in the defense.
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  They just probably believe they wanna see more from the offense.
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  And I think they're right.
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  I think we do need to see more from the offense or something has to be done.
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  I don't know if he changed the QB or KOC gives up the play calling or whatever, but some...
• 22:20
  Something might have to be done if...
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  Because you're gonna, like I said yesterday on the pod, you're not...
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  The defense at some point is gonna have a bad game.
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  It's just...
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  I I don't think it's sustainable to play like this every single week.
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  I mean, I think most weeks they can, but, like, at some point, they're gonna give up, like, 20,
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  25.
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  There, I even say 30 in a game.
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  So the offense has to pull its weight.
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  But, like, this team has just been playing really well.
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  The defense is just...
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  Shout out to coach Flores.
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  Like always, I'm always gonna show him love.
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  I think Mike Florio said, like, they blitz, like, 87% of the time in the last game, which
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  is the highest a team had...
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  Has blitzed in, like, the past, like, twenty years.
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  So, like, there's always, like, a different wrinkle, and he's kind of evolution
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  evolutionizing defenses right now with all the different, players standing up at the line of
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  scrimmage, not knowing who's coming, who's going.
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  And I I just think this will be a big game because, again, like, it's gonna be a
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  nationally televised game, and I don't think the Vikings have been the nationally televised
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  game since week one.
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  So this will be a lot...
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  This gives a a chance to a lot of people to actually watch them and maybe judge for
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  themselves and not just, like, read what they read what they, just read reading what they see
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  on the on the ticker.
• 23:48
  Yeah.
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  I I think the, offense has another chance to go out there and prove themselves.
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  It feels like, just the lack of execution, like, you know, kind of address the, Jordan
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  Addison, the big play.
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  A few of those plays, you don't have the penalty or Juwan Jennings catches his and falls
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  into the end zone.
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  There, you you don't miss Addison on another crosser.
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  There's just a few things.
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  Like I said, the offense hasn't been absolutely putrid.
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  It's just been slight misses.
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  And I think once it does click and you get that, and those are definitely things that come
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  from guys playing together, which you haven't had a lot of time on task together, for those
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  things to happen, that you you get there.
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  And and only time will tell at this point.
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  So happy that they're healthy.
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  Glad that they can come back out here, have a chance to perform on Sunday in Detroit.
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  I got the Vikings coming out with a win in this one.
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  I think it's close again.
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  I think this defense does its job.
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  The offense does just enough, and Will Reichard walks them off towards the end of the game and
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  gives the lions a little bit of payback, and and a little bit of taste of their own medicine
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  from their win last week.
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  So I I don't see Detroit putting up huge numbers, against this defense and, the
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  continued chaos from Brian Flores and his crew, is going to be on full display.
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  And I...
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  At this point, until they lose, I'm not picking the Vikings to lose.
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  I I just can't see it, and the the offense has to do so very little to catch up and to do
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  something that it it would be a major positive, and you would start to win these games by two
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  possessions.
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  So, I'd love to see them do it this week in Detroit, add another game and another, you
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  know, kind of a scalp to the, the belt as it were and to beat another division rival and to
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  go three and o in the division and seven o overall, you're kind of in control of your own
• 25:52
  destiny the rest of this season.
• 25:54
  Just keep winning football games and stay healthy, and you're going to put yourself in
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  the driver's seat now as the only unbeaten left, for that top seed and keeping all of your
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  games in the postseason in US Bank Stadium, which, is a weapon all in itself.
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  Yeah.
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  I think the Vikings are gonna win as well, 1714.
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  Shout out to world record.
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  I think this is probably the number one fan club for world record besides the child at
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  home.
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  We we shot him out a lot on on this on this network.
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  But I I just think the...
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  It's not as if, like, the lions, like, actually lit it up last week.
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  They struggled against the packers defense, at least for their standards.
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  So I I do think they're gonna have difficulty with with this Vikings defense and what Flores
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  is showing them because he he never shows people really the same thing multiple times.
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  And even if he does, it's now as Chris Collinsworth said, the one thing if you're
• 26:57
  gonna be concerned about if you are the Vikings, they are susceptible to big plays
• 27:02
  because of just the blitz rates.
• 27:03
  So, like, if they can find J Mo or Aminra or Jamir Gibbs can break one, it...
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  It's not impossible.
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  It's very possible for big plays.
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  So big plays are there to be made, but it's all about really bending and not breaking.
• 27:20
  Nope.
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  I'm gonna call it Jared Goff throws his first interception this weekend.
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  I think that Zay is just having a great season.
• 27:30
  I think he baits them into a bad throw at some point, and, we see, this team do what no other
• 27:38
  team has done so far and, forces Jared Goff into an interception.
• 27:43
  Those streaks don't stay alive forever either.
• 27:46
  And, obviously, from the chaos that's getting caused up front, that makes that possible.
• 27:51
  So Vikings win.
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  Jared Goff throws an interception.
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  Defense continues to be dominant, and the offense does just enough to push them over the
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  edge against the lions.
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  You heard it here first, folks.
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  I am Bubba Starts for my cohost, Selly.
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  I am so happy that you all joined us for this preview of the Detroit lions versus our
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  Minnesota Vikings.
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  We will see you next week for another preview episode, and we will see you on Sunday at 10:30
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  central for our pregame show.
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  We'll see you then.