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Chiefs secure HUGE WIN on SNF, Caleb Williams Injury, Chargers are BAD · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully you are doing well,
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  Speaker 1: enjoying your life more than the Colts because they still
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  Speaker 1: haven't won a game since early November of 2025. So
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs come out victorious in overtime. Their
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  Speaker 1: eighth straight overtime victory. A lot of other stuff happening.
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  Speaker 1: Chargers implosion. Steelers might even look worse. Atlanta's probably the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Wild Dolphins. There's some bad teams. Raiders 2-0. Packers pull
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  Speaker 1: out a win. LaFleur survives. Lives to fight another day.
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  Speaker 1: Some major injuries in the NFL. Jaden Daniels. Caleb Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Neither look great. Obviously, Jaden looked really bad. Caleb might
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  Speaker 1: have avoided disaster. We'll know more probably the next podcast
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  Speaker 1: I do. We'll talk some Lane Kiffin. Big night Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Did not go as planned if you were Lane. And
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  Speaker 1: me and Colin recorded a podcast earlier as well talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot of football. So, you guys know the drill. Subscribe.
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  Speaker 1: of stuff on YouTube throughout the week. So, go check
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  Speaker 1: that out as well and Let's just dive right into
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  Speaker 1: the day that was. Let's start with the Chiefs and Colts.
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  Speaker 1: The Chiefs are back. They're 2-0. Their star quarterback played
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  Speaker 1: dramatically better than he did last week. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think that if you're the Chiefs, part of winning on
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  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football week one, it was kind of all
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker in defense. Just spags punking Davis Webb and
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker running all over him. Tonight, you're like, Terrell Owens,
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  Speaker 1: that's my quarterback. And physically, he looked much more comfortable. Collinsworth,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like, was getting an erection every time he
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  Speaker 1: would let one rip. I mean, Mahomes unleashed a couple
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  Speaker 1: passes today that you're like, okay. I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't seen that zip on his ball in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: They're pushing the ball down the field. But big picture
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  Speaker 1: for their offense, they're starting an undrafted free agent at
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  Speaker 1: left tackle. As Collinsworth was saying, this wasn't an undrafted
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  Speaker 1: free agent that they just signed right after the seventh
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  Speaker 1: round ended. They went through rookie tryouts. They invited him in.
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  Speaker 1: His story's pretty crazy. Now, it's football. These stories happen.
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  Speaker 1: Typically not at left tackle. Kelsey clearly is really motivated
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  Speaker 1: off the poor season he had last year, the marriage,
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  Speaker 1: he's in shape. He was balling today. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: was incredible. That was a true vintage throwback Travis Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: from four or five years ago. One of the best
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  Speaker 1: players on the field. You're not going to cover me. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the other team, they have a guy that they drafted
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  Speaker 1: in the top 15, this blue chipper from Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: He can't hold my jock. And then let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't run for 175 yards or whatever today. But
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is a player that they just add to
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  Speaker 1: their team in free agency. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people went, that's a lot of money. Hell, I thought that.
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  Speaker 1: And you're watching him through these first two games, and
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  Speaker 1: they just haven't had that element. clearly running the ball
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  Speaker 1: between the tackles or outside the tackles, just giving him
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  Speaker 1: the ball, you know, handing him the ball, making it
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  Speaker 1: easy on Patrick tonight. He had 24 carries. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in two games, he has, what does he have? 47 carries.
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  Speaker 1: And he's averaging like five yards a carry. But you
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  Speaker 1: can throw in the ball. You can just rely on
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  Speaker 1: a playmaker that is at a position that they haven't had. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they still got Rice. They still got Worthy,
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  Speaker 1: who by no means, this isn't, Tyreek Hill, but the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs offense is dramatically more complete if Kelsey is going
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  Speaker 1: to play well and you just add this version of
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. And then Mahomes will uplift. This is why
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  Speaker 1: you pay Mahomes, Lamar, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, the premium money.
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  Speaker 1: Because I like Dak a lot and I'm a Dak
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  Speaker 1: Prescott fan. But he's kind of thriving with some elite dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Could I just give Dak a bunch of randoms at
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver and have him thrive? Or Jared Goff or
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  Speaker 1: any of that next-tier guy? No, it's not really their thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hell, one guy taking a lot of shit
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  Speaker 1: right now is my man with the Chargers. And their
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  Speaker 1: receivers aren't that great. And the great players, Tom Brady
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  Speaker 1: did this for two decades, is you make guys who
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  Speaker 1: are average above average. You make above average players, high
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  Speaker 1: level players. And you're watching Mahomes today, like that was really,
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  Speaker 1: really good. And he not turning the ball over, moving well,
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  Speaker 1: scrambling to throw, throwing the ball away when he needs to.
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  Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, he had stretches where
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  Speaker 1: he turned the ball over a lot. They have one
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  Speaker 1: of the best defensive coordinators in the league. When Spaggs
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  Speaker 1: is just dialed in and has a good game plan
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  Speaker 1: and all his players are healthy, he can be the
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  Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator on any given week in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: The physicality they have in defense speaks for itself. Karloftis,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the thing about the Chiefs, is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll dive into what everyone was saying about Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 1: which I don't find you're the poor man's version of
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen as a slight, but this is football. You
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  Speaker 1: use everything you can as motivation and you take things
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  Speaker 1: as slights, right? The Chiefs didn't have to use anything
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  Speaker 1: as slights. They went 6-11 last year. They drafted, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they traded up in the draft, but their original draft
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  Speaker 1: was 9. Like, they were horrendous. Patrick Mahomes tore his knee.
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  Speaker 1: And when they showed that picture of the scar, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a little incision. Travis Kelsey, for his standards, who's
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  Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: skill position players we've ever seen was below average last year.
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  Speaker 1: The running game didn't exist. So the motivation for this
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  Speaker 1: team is on full display through two weeks. Their energy,
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  Speaker 1: their effort. Now granted, you get a lift by playing
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  Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. The place is rocking. They showed the video
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  Speaker 1: on the broadcast of all the cars waiting. I guess
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  Speaker 1: they let them in at noon. I mean, what time
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  Speaker 1: did the game start? I don't know. Central time, 730.
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  Speaker 1: So these guys get there early. They bring their TVs.
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  Speaker 1: They tailgate. They watch football all day. Football means a
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  Speaker 1: lot in that area, as well as it should. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've gotten to watch a team go to five Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowls in six years. And the Colts just ran into
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  Speaker 1: something that, like, Indy's playing well. Shane Steichen called a
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  Speaker 1: good game. And one, like the way that game almost
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  Speaker 1: ended with the fumble. Remember, it famously happened the one
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  Speaker 1: time with Julian Edelman when it barely missed his leg
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  Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game, Patrick Mahomes' first year starting.
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  Speaker 1: And in this situation, which to me was pretty hard
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  Speaker 1: to tell. I still kind of thought he was moving
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  Speaker 1: it when his hand was off him, but I also
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  Speaker 1: understand it's close enough that if you want to call
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  Speaker 1: him down, it wasn't that big a deal to me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to freak out one way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have any money on the game, so I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like, if you had one side or the other,
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  Speaker 1: you were probably freaking out when that moment happened. But
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  Speaker 1: once they get that play, a 48-yard bomb, To then
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  Speaker 1: run back-to-back run plays for negative two, I guess a
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  Speaker 1: total of negative three yards, to me seems crazy. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate a run call in one of those
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  Speaker 1: two spots. You have one of the better running backs
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  Speaker 1: in the league. But when you're given a gift, and
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to call that a gift,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about like half a centimeter of
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  Speaker 1: fabric potentially touching him. And then to not double down
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  Speaker 1: on your aggressiveness right away. All these guys are gassed.
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  Speaker 1: You could just physically tell. Everyone is exhausted. So if
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  Speaker 1: you are going to be aggressive with some pass plays,
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  Speaker 1: that's your time to take advantage of it. And I
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  Speaker 1: get Alec Pierce had been out the majority of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Keenan Allen has as many deweys as catches. in the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, but you drafted Warren really high. Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor is a dual-purpose player. Look at, essentially, the game-winning
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  Speaker 1: play by the Chiefs. Ran a little play action, turnaround,
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  Speaker 1: lob pass to Kenneth Walker. What does Andy do all
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  Speaker 1: the time? He uses pass plays behind the line of
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage to his running backs that he considers runs. And
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  Speaker 1: Shane Sykin, I think, is a good coach. If Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Stefanski could get fired from the Browns and immediately get
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  Speaker 1: a job, so could Shane Sykin. I mean, you watch
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  Speaker 1: this team. They were up for the challenge tonight. That
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  Speaker 1: was a tough win. Last week was an impressive, physical,
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  Speaker 1: dominant win from the Chiefs. Today was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: not easy. These guys are playing well. And Steichen just,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like in the weirdest time after taking this
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  Speaker 1: bomb that works to perform. to then get really conservative
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit of a head scratcher. Put yourself
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  Speaker 1: in third and 13, Daniel Jones runs, gets absolutely destroyed
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline. I would imagine there'll be some conversation
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  Speaker 1: I don't exactly know with the analytic crew if they're
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  Speaker 1: going to crush them for not going forward on fourth
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  Speaker 1: and eight. You kick the field goal. You're kind of
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  Speaker 1: playing for the tie, but you're giving them a couple
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  Speaker 1: minutes left and they have one of the greatest players
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  Speaker 1: of all time and one of the greatest coaches of
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  Speaker 1: all time. So I think a lot of people would say, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you're just going to wave the white flag right there,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to give them a very good chance to win.
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  Speaker 1: And in this modern day, like the rule with the kickoff,
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  Speaker 1: how often do you see a drive now start at
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  Speaker 1: like the seven or the 12 or the 13? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like the majority of these drives start past
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  Speaker 1: the 30. So as Collinsworth said, once they got the
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  Speaker 1: ball back, well, they only got to get 25 yards
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  Speaker 1: to give Butker a chance. Like I grew up in
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  Speaker 1: a day and age. Hell, it wasn't even that long ago.
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  Speaker 1: So did basically everyone listening to this. Where a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people just started at like the 15 or 20
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  Speaker 1: yard line. And kickers, you know, a 50 yard kick
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  Speaker 1: was a long kick. Those are no longer the cases.
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  Speaker 1: So the game is so much more different when you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at it from the fourth and eighth spot. Like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if you kick this field goal, they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: a very good chance. You would say... A high percentage
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  Speaker 1: chance that they're going to have a field goal look.
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  Speaker 1: Because they don't have to go very far. They just
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  Speaker 1: don't have to get many first downs to get in
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  Speaker 1: field goal range. And that goes for any team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL in that position because of this kickoff rule.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. If you kick the field
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  Speaker 1: goal and you're like, we're kind of playing for the tie.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say the game had looked different and Patrick had
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  Speaker 1: kind of looked like he had did the week before.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of iffy. Then it's like, okay, hey, the Colts,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't won since like early November last year. I
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  Speaker 1: was inside eating dinner, watching the game, and they said
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  Speaker 1: that on the broadcast. My wife looked at me. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: did they just say the Colts haven't won since like
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  Speaker 1: November 10th or 9th? I'm like, yeah, Maria. You remember
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  Speaker 1: Phillip Rivers at 45 had to show up? She's like,
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  Speaker 1: where's their backup quarterback? I'm like, well, he shattered his
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  Speaker 1: orbital bone stretching before a game. So the Colts have
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of weird shit happen to him. It's
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. A lot of people have weird things happen
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  Speaker 1: to them. But for whatever reason, their snowball of losing
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  Speaker 1: just hasn't stopped rolling. The avalanche just has not slowed down.
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  Speaker 1: And even when they played pretty well, like Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 1: tonight played pretty well. I would say really well if
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  Speaker 1: I'm judging the Daniel Jones standards. right? Mahomes missed some passes,
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  Speaker 1: he missed some passes. Now, he missed them in some
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  Speaker 1: inopportune times. When you have Tyler Warren wide open in
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  Speaker 1: the flat and you miss him because that's the Spags effect.
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  Speaker 1: You get guys like Spags, and if you watched earlier today,
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  Speaker 1: the Flores, like when they're just blitzing nonstop, it can
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  Speaker 1: just rattle you as a quarterback a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it goes back to the Sam Darnold Comment of
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing ghosts. Sometimes I've seen ghosts. You just don't
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  Speaker 1: know who's coming from where. Or who's going to be where.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe you overthink something. You rush something. He's wide open.
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  Speaker 1: It should be a layup throw. And you give a
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  Speaker 1: guy that's like 6'6. No chance to even catch the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Now it happens. Mahomes rushed one to Kelsey. On the
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  Speaker 1: overtime series. Not the game winner. But the previous one.
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  Speaker 1: And I just think. You know. Those spots, if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to win, if you're finally going to get over
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  Speaker 1: the hump and break the streak, the plays have to
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  Speaker 1: be made. They really do. Now, I'd also say the
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  Speaker 1: AFC South, you know, Texans are 0-2. The Jags lost today.
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  Speaker 1: They kind of melted down. And obviously the Titans are
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  Speaker 1: an atrocious football team, even though they played the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: kind of well. But of course they did because that
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  Speaker 1: game was always going to be weird. But you look
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  Speaker 1: at the Chiefs right now, like you feel pretty good
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  Speaker 1: about their chances. And this is why coming into the season,
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  Speaker 1: the Colts were a team that I kind of went
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  Speaker 1: back and forth with. I think they got good players.
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  Speaker 1: I think the coach is good. I could see them
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  Speaker 1: being in the playoff mix. But you lose enough games,
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  Speaker 1: winning breeds, or success breeds winning, breeds confidence, and it
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  Speaker 1: kind of rolls in that direction. And it's the opposite
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  Speaker 1: when it's like, what can we do? How can we
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  Speaker 1: figure this out? And you look at the Chiefs, I
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  Speaker 1: basically just picked them on culture. on the, this is
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  Speaker 1: a team that of Andy's 13 years, they've made the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs 11 of them. It's an outlier when they have,
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  Speaker 1: like they've never had a season like last year. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're a good team and you do have one
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  Speaker 1: of those random seasons, it also gives you a great
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to draft really high. Now I'm recording this right
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  Speaker 1: after the game. I don't know the Delane situation. He
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  Speaker 1: obviously got injured last week, but then he practiced all week.
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  Speaker 1: He played like a play and he never saw him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if some, I'm sure we'll find out.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid will probably get asked about it after. But
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  Speaker 1: you bring in Mason Thomas from Oklahoma, who's all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. Karloftis, who did not have a good season
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  Speaker 1: last year, has to feel some motivation that like, God,
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  Speaker 1: they're drafting some pass rushers early with these picks. I mean,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: after Delane, the two picks were defensive linemen, pass rushers.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, hey, George, we paid you some money.
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  Speaker 1: We need a little more out of you. This is
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  Speaker 1: a league that you ain't getting it done. We'll just
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  Speaker 1: replace you with other guys. And through two weeks, 56
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  Speaker 1: is fucking all over the place. The guy's playing with
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  Speaker 1: his hair on fire. And this gets back to when
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  Speaker 1: training camp started. It's pretty well documented now around the
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  Speaker 1: league that most of these camps, no one touches anybody,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: no one tackles anybody, and definitely no one plays in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason game. Chris Jones told Aikman and Buck, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is the hardest camp we've ever had. Chris Jones
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  Speaker 1: has been there forever. He's like, this is by far
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  Speaker 1: the hardest. Travis Kelsey reiterated that. Because you show up
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  Speaker 1: to camp like, we're never fucking doing this again, guys.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean we're going to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean we're going to go undefeated on the season.
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  Speaker 1: But like, we're going back to the playoffs. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to be good. You know, this is, the Denver's won
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  Speaker 1: the division. They ain't going to win it again. Well,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the Chargers are coming. Not this time. Raiders are feisty.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into them a little bit. But these two
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: weeks have been a pretty big muscle flex for the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 1: their culture, Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey, definitely Kenneth Walker, Andy. It's
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  Speaker 1: been really, really impressive to watch. And sometimes, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when the dams broke, you know, you try to plug
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  Speaker 1: the hole, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what it kind of feels like with the Colts.
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  Speaker 1: There's just nothing's going their way. It's I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they're an embarrassment. I don't think there's some joke. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even think they're bad, but they just constantly lose.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just going to have it feels like one
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  Speaker 1: of those seasons again where they miss the playoffs by
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  Speaker 1: a game or two. And what could have been and
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  Speaker 1: what it should have like the Chiefs don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: They don't do what could have been. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
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  Speaker 1: They just figure it out, get it done. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the gap of having Patrick Mahomes. You even saw it tonight.
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  Speaker 1: There's a gap between Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones. And
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I thought, played pretty well. There's a gap
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  Speaker 1: between Andy Reid and Shane Steichen. There's just a gap
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  Speaker 1: between these two franchises. And it was evident in some
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of the biggest moments. In some of the biggest decisions.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to win on the road. The NFL, it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: But when... eventually you've got to draw a line in
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  Speaker 1: the sand, and it just feels like the Colts are
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  Speaker 1: unable to do that, and the Chiefs just figure it
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  Speaker 1: out time after time after time after time. So congrats
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  Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Butker game-winning kick. They're 2-0, and on
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  Speaker 1: the flip side, the Colts are 0-2, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know where they go from here. You've just got
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  Speaker 1: to find a way in one of these games to
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  Speaker 1: have more points than your opponent, and they just can't
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  Speaker 1: organization Lot going on around the NFL. Where do I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: even start? I want to start on a positive note.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I've made a lot of fun of this franchise over
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the years. Even though I do have a lot of respect.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Used to spend a lot of time around them. For
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the history. For the collegiate alumni feel that when you're
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: around the Raiders, that it's palpable. All their guys. The
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: passion former Raiders have. for having played for the Raiders.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, John Gruden's been, got traded from the Raiders
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and then fired from the Raiders on a Monday night
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: football game after the email thing. And he still, like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: loves the Raiders. Charles Woodson. I mean, Charles Woodson won
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and the Defensive Player of the Year
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: with the Packers. and the passion he talks about with
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. There is something cool about a franchise that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: almost feels like it's got like an LSU, Ohio State
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: type thing, but they've never had success in my adult life.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: They have been awful. I mean, they've had like two
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: winning seasons in 25 years. I think they've made the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: playoffs twice since they went to the Super Bowl way
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: back in the day in 2002 or whatever. This is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a franchise that loses a lot. And then to start
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: 2-0 and have Cousins throwing touchdowns, to have their defensive
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: making plays, to just beat the shit out of the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Chargers today. The Chargers back-to-back weeks, if you look at
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the scores against Arizona and the Raiders, it does not
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: reflect what we've witnessed. I picked the Chargers to make
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I thought they would be good. I just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: kind of assumed Herbert, Jim Harbaugh, some of their young nucleus,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: adding just, I just thought they would be a good team.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I thought they'd win 10, 11, 12 games. They stink.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are not good. They have no explosion
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: on offense. The running backs fumbled back-to-back weeks. Their defense
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: does not make plays. Guys are wide open. Cousins today,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: for having a good game, he threw three touchdowns. First
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Raider quarterback in the first two games of a season. to,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I think they said in the broadcast, throw three touchdowns
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: in week one and week two, since Kenny the Snake Stabler.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: He happened to be the quarterback for John Madden in
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the 70s. So it's been a while since they started
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this fast and explosive on offense. Kind of had a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: dude wide open late in the game. They were guys
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: wide open all game long. Jenty, I think, had three
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or four drops. This could have been way worse. Here's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: my issue with the Chargers. is they've moved to Los Angeles.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And listen, the Rams, it can be a little weird too.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And I think part of that is like, it's a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Laker and Dodger town. They have been gone for so long.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But they were once in LA. Like I understood leaving
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Missouri to go to Los Angeles, Cronky self-finances thing, build
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a palace, and make exponentially more money. And it's worked.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It's been a home run for the league. It's been
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a home run with Sean McVay. The Chargers don't belong
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in LA. It doesn't even feel right. It really doesn't.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: They play all these games. Every single team they play,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: especially teams like any West Coast team, the Raiders, the 49ers,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it is a dramatic disadvantage for them. And Mike McDaniel,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: he's wearing these Gucci shades and these joggers. It's like, bro,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that stuff's crazy. You can pull some of that off.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Same with Lane. You can troll. You better win some
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: big games. You better dial up some plays. And I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: told Colin this. Someone in the league told me that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: he studied the tape after week one. The guard-center-guard combination
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: looked like practice squad rejects. Looked like guys you would
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: cut yesterday. They looked unplayable. Today, their guard center guard
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: position still stinks. Their tackles were kind of, I mean,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you better have a good game going up against Max.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: That fucking guy doesn't slow down from the time the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: ball's kicked off till the whistle is blown and you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: go back to the locker room and go home. And
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: their front is getting worked, annihilated. Herbert's not playing well.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Their skill guys look crap. They're a tough watch. We'll
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: get into the Steelers. They're not that level bad of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a watch on offense. But, like, the Mike McDaniel thing, man,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this Jim Harbaugh marriage is a train wreck right now.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And the Raiders took advantage of it. And Kubiak, like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: One big, you know, sometimes you hear about these coaches' kids.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously Steve Belichick was in the news about
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the drugs in the facility, and people are even saying, like, yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: we actually think Brian Belichick is the better coach. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the Belichick's kids. I've never
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: met them. I've heard stories from people that have been
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: around them, but I have no firsthand knowledge. I have
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time at 49er practices over the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: last 7 or 8, 10 years since Kyle's been there
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and seen this entire crew of the Kubiak brothers, Matt LaFleur,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: or Mike LaFleur, I guess Mike LaFleur, I gotta keep up,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all these guys. And, you know, Kubiak, like Kyle... Like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know, Sean McVay, who was around it. Like, any
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: coach's kid whose dad is an NFL coach when they're
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: like two years old, five years old, ten years old.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Athletes get that. It's just, it's easier to go into coaching.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: You don't need to be a great athlete to go
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: into coaching. Right? Patrick Mahomes, to become what Patrick Mahomes became, like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: God had to be pretty kind to him. Right? And
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: gave him some incredible athletic attributes. His dad was a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: pro player, but like, It's not like his dad was
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Ken Griffey Jr. His dad was like a rotational bullpen guy.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But he got to be around it all the time.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Klay Thompson. You know, I think Michael Thompson
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was better than Del Curry. But, you know, Del Curry
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: was like a three-point shooter back in time in a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: league when you didn't really even shoot three-pointers. He was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: obviously nothing compared to Steph. But those guys were around it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They loved it. They ate it up. They're comfortable in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: these environments. Clint Kubiak, Clay Kubiak, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you go around some of these kids, like, they're not
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: doing cocaine in the locker room. They're very focused individuals.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: They don't fuck around. And I didn't know that much
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: about Clint until he started coaching for the Niners years ago.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I followed, like, his name, bounced around different teams,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: coached for the Vikings. He's a very serious guy. Well,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you ever seen Gary? Gary's not Mr. Personality. Like, these
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: guys aren't big BS guys. But I'll tell you this.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: like anyone who's ever met a successful family business, once
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: they've been doing it for decades on decades and the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: kids get involved and they like it and are good
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: at it, they know the business like the back of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: their hand. Because it's all they've been doing their entire life.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: That is their life. And clearly Clint Kubiak, who a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: couple years ago with New Orleans, after the first two weeks,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: they were like the best offense we'd ever seen. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: then they had a bunch of injuries. The season unraveled.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Dennis Allen and everyone got fired. And then because Seattle
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: needed an offensive coordinator, he got another opportunity. He has
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: not looked back. Now, I'm not acting like the Raiders
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: are going to the playoffs. Cousins athletically can't really move.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Can this defense maintain? Time will tell. But like, for
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a franchise that had been down real bad, like Browns
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: level bad, like embarrassingly bad, to go into L.A., And
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to beat the living crap out of Jim Harbaugh and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had to feel pretty good. But man, the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Chargers stink. The other team, like... Last week, I tried
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to give them the benefit of the doubt. Week one,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: playing the Falcons, it's kind of weird. The Pittsburgh, I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: almost said the Green Bay Packers, but Aaron Rodgers and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy are now the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach and quarterback.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: They're unwatchable. They are... It is like watching paint dry
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: on offense. McCarthy's calling pass after pass after pass because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: they cannot run the ball. Aaron cannot move anymore. DK
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Metcalf is just a disaster personnel move for Omar Khan.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: That has got to be one he would like back.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, that has got to be one he regrets.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to trade a second round pick and give him a
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: bunch of money. I mean, DK, Aaron Rodgers has been
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: talking this guy up all training camp. I'm gonna keep
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: feeding him the ball. I love DK. We rode horses,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: we're boys. I've always been a big DK guy, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you know, last year he had his moments, but then
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the season really kind of cost him,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: or almost definitely did that, you know, missing those last
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: couple games. But it's like, okay, got the momentum. They're vibing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: He has looked awful. And their offense, their defense has
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: played well. Like, T.J. Watt has looked young and explosive.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Highsmith and Herbig were all over the place today. Cam
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Hayward looked like he was 28. They were destroying, getting
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: in the backfield all the time, making plays left and right.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And they had no chance. None. Now, Drake May hit
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a couple big plays to Dobbs. Henderson had the big run.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: But they wouldn't even have needed all that. They couldn't even,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it felt like it's a struggle for them to gain
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: like three or four yards. It is just from an
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: entertainment standpoint. If you just enjoy football, sitting on your couch,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and you're not like some of us degenerates with like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: seven different screens, like 10 games going at one time.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And all you had is just your one flat screen
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: TV and you just watch that entire game. You would
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: tell yourself after, I'm not watching this team anymore. They're
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: not fun anymore. Like, it's one thing Atlanta, right? Stefanski
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: hasn't been good in years. Stefanski last year was one
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of the worst offensive coordinators in the history of the league. Like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: this notion that he's some brilliant mind. Like, brilliant minds
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: find ways to get in the red zone one time
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: through the first two weeks of the season, regardless who
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: their quarterback is, when they have a bunch of skill guys.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Especially the first 15 plays. Skiing some shit open, make
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: some stuff happen. Complete embarrassment. But what I'm witnessing right
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: now in Pittsburgh, and then you've got after the game
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going, well, you know, it's on me, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I've got to do a better job of telling the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: coaches when the plays are calling in suck so we
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: don't run them. There is something to be said, and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Aaron. Last year
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: when he breaks his wrist, he's worth hundreds of millions
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of dollars. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: got all these MVPs. He's got a ring. He's clearly
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: not going to win another. This isn't like, I'm joining
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the 76ers to try to win another ring. And you're like, yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it's possible, right? It's like, okay, I see what you're
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: doing there. You might be able to bang this out.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Might not, but like giving yourself a chance. You got
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: no chance. He's no dummy. He's been around great teams.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He knows I got no chance to win a ring.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't care what... When he's sitting at home smoking
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: or sniffing or whatever you do, the ayahuasca, thinking to himself,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: looking at the stars, we ain't winning. But I like
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: playing football. I love the NFL. We can make the playoffs.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Be cool. And he played through the injury and it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, no one... I don't question Aaron Rodgers' toughness,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but he really kind of like, I'm a tough SOB.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: This year, and this happened to Brady the last year,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: like don't want to get hit. But Aaron used to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: be able to, unlike Brady and Manning, those guys could
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: never move. So they were sitting ducks the entire time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Aaron used to be able to scramble behind the line
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and make throws. He can't really move anymore.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: There were a couple plays today, you look up, it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like defensive tackles chasing him down. He's got no speed.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So he can't ad-lib. And his offense, for some reason,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I assumed their offense was going to be good. Shit,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I drafted DK back after my fantasy team. Big regret.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Might release it tomorrow. And by the way, I got...
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I tried to be a team player, join this volume
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: fantasy league with all. I hate fantasy. It's not enjoyable.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: How do all you guys play fantasy? It's a miserable experience.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It sucks. The guys you put in never make plays.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: The dudes you're playing against score a bunch of touchdowns.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Every single week you're playing Josh Allen or JSN and
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they're scoring all. It's not fun. I feel validated for
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: never having joined a league my entire life. I might
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: be one and done. Because after today, it was a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: miserable experience. Just like watching the Packers. Or excuse me,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. Which you could also say the Packers as well.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: They got extremely lucky. The Packers, they had like 75
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: penalties today. At one point in time, because you know
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you got the four box on, so you're going back
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: between the audios. And I flip on the Packer jet audio.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And they're like, that's the Packers' 16th penalty today, and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they've accepted 13 of them. I'm like, now I get it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: These games, like the Bears game, the rain, the inclement weather,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: make it hard. It actually puts the Packers at a
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: disadvantage because Golden and Watson and Tucker Craft, their offense
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is probably tailor-made right now with Jacobs out to play
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: in a dome and just throw the ball, push the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: ball downfield. Harder to do in the weather. I mean,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: their backup running backs just look kind of slow to me.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: They do not look good. And the Jets were playing well.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: But also, like, the Jets have good players. If Geno's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going to play solid, Brees Hall's really good. Allen, the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin kid, the other running back's good. Obviously, Garrett Wilson's good.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He had a touchdown. Like, they have a lot of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: talent on offense. And this had, like, once they lost
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: last week, this thing could have got weird as long
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: as this game stayed close. And it not only stayed close,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: At one point in time, the Jets were up 17-7.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It kind of crossed my mind. Could LaFleur get fired
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: after week two? Seems extreme, and I guess they play
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: on Thursday night, so it probably wouldn't have happened. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: it would have been really, really difficult for him to just...
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. You think it got loud last week,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: losing to the Jets at MetLife in the rain, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: somehow they pulled that game out of their ass. I mean,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: obviously the Watson touchdown... But the penalties, it's a tough watch.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I think all Packer fans agree that this is not good. Now,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they played this Thursday night against the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. So this is how fast football can change,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: especially if you get a short week against an awful opponent.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're 2-1, you feel a little
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: bit better. But I do think the Jacobs situation with
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: him probably just gone for good is a massive, massive problem.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was truly felt watching them play today.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It's like they would give, they would do anything to have,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: like watching Brees Hall on the other side. LaFleur's got
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to be watching that. Like, what can I do? But
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he won the game. He pulled that thing out of
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: his butt and survived to live another day. My Saints, man.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Tyler Shirk's good. Like, back-to-back weeks, early in the game,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he just looks horrendous. And King Henry's running around. The
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Ravens are looking good. The place is rocking. It's like, God,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this is a tough place to play, man. This is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a tough place to play. He's not playing well. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: then something happens like at halftime and in the second half.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's almost like they just look around the locker room
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and go, hey, we got this guy named Chris Alave,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: played at Ohio State. He's fucking good. So let's just
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: throw him the ball. Over and over and over again.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing with the Saints. Olave, through two weeks,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: looks like one of the best players in the league.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Their other skill guys are legit. The tight end's good.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Their other receiver is good, Vele. They have Kamara and
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Etienne that are both fantastic catching the ball out of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the backfield. Kellen Moore, let's face it, he's a pretty
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: good play caller. He's pretty good at his job. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's a good defensive coordinator. This was a little
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: bit of a throwback game. I felt like watching it
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: because when they were up, what was it? It was 16-7,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. And it was like, they're just kind of
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: smothering him. You know, just give the ball to Henry
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: another 15 times in the second half. He'll run for
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like $ 1. 40 and just take over. And it kind of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: was a hard ball. Like, where did Derrick Henry go?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And you kind of felt... I mean, Zay Flowers, they're
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: explosive players in street clothes on the sideline. That's a big,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: big loss. When the only player in the history of
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: your franchise to make a Pro Bowl at that position,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: who starts off with a massive game, is just MIA,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: it's hard to plug that. Bateman's been on the team
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: for a minute, and he actually was pretty productive today.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Until it mattered the most, and it felt like him
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and Lamar were not on the same page, and it
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: led to the game-sealing interceptions. But at this point in time,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: we just have to acknowledge, Tyler Shuck is good. The
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Saints personnel is good. Kellen Moore is good. And this
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: team has a lot of fight. I mean, the first week,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: they're down 21-0 on the road. I don't care who
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you are. Most teams are not coming storming back. Especially teams.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: It's one thing if you have a long history of winning.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: If you're the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Bills, all these
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: good teams that get down bad and then storm back,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: even if you lose, show some heart. This team hasn't won.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: And then it kind of carried right over into this game.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: They'd done it before. They had been there. And this
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: is a way you would think, we'll see how the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: dust settles over the course of the year, tougher opponent,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: more well-rounded opponent. And they just came storming back and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: they just funneled the ball and he was unstoppable. And
• 39:24
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  Speaker 1: Quince.com slash three and out. The other big story of
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: the day was the Caleb Williams injury. That game was
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: tough watch. I mean, obviously the weather, The Bears looked
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: like shit. I mean, Ben Johnson had this look on
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: his face the entire game. Like, he didn't even want
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to be there. Don't blame him. Like, I'm not a
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: big stand outside in the weather guy either. Ben felt
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: like I wish we were playing in a... I wish
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: this game was in Minnesota right now so I could
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: take advantage of my offense. Caleb, the blitzing before he
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: got injured. You know, Caleb's a very natural scrambler. So,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: when you call a pass play and just a normal,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: you know, pass rush... If his first couple reads aren't there,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: he'll kind of find a lane and take off. But
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: when you blitz him, you make him make that decision immediately,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: which then throws off the timing of the offense immediately.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And then in an environment where the weather's bad, it
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: just makes everything all jumbled. And he obviously threw the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: one pick earlier in the game, scrambling across his body.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to be the old rule of thumb guy.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: which kind of goes out the window with guys like Caleb, Mahomes,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen. It's more for like a Daniel Jones type.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Never throw back across your body, especially high over the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: middle of the field. It's where you get into trouble.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: It wasn't technically, I would say, the true middle of
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the field, but it was kind of down the hash,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and it was an easy interception. But, you know, swift fumbles,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the series where he gets injured. I don't know if
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: he would have scored. He might have got pretty close.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but it looked like his Achilles, and then it turns out,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Achilles, not because there was that
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: slow motion shot where it kind of goes through your calf,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and you see that thing rip. You never really saw that,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: but just the way he went down, and then he's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: getting carted back, and he's crying. So you think, like, crying,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: he's just thinking his season's over, right? And then it
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: comes out, he pulled his hamstring down, And there's a
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: chance it's not even that bad of a hamstring injury.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: My theory is that I don't think Caleb Williams has
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: ever been injured. I can't remember. He didn't miss time
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: at SC. Pretty sure he missed a game. Not that
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I can remember in Chicago. I don't think he has.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Could be wrong. His rookie year, that was a weird
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: year with Ibraflues, but definitely not last year. Obviously this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: year he looked better than ever after week one. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: wonder if it was just a complete freakout. Like he
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: felt something weird. Because we were talking before I hopped on.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Producer Shane was like, usually when a guy pulls a hammy,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and you see a lot with wide receivers or DBs,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: they do the hobble. They're running, and then all of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's like someone shoots them in the thigh,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and they do the hobble thing. He just hit the ground.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: So every human alive, I mean, I got a million texts.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You probably got a million texts. Everyone that's watching it,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: we're all, his Achilles just popped. And then you see
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the video, you're like, what a fucking all-time moment. Then
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: they got the field goal blocked, I think a play
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: or two later. I can't remember if that was third
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: down or second down, but then the field goal got blocked.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you just lost your quarterback, number one overall pick,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: who just looked incredible last week, unless you're PFF and
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you thought he looked shitty. You're about to score, at
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: least kick a field goal. I think the score was
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: 6-3 at the time. Would tie the game. Field goal
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: gets blocked. And your quarterback's getting carded. Ben Johnson, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: this is where I think I will never, ever miss
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: about football, is when you have these dramatic injuries. It's like,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: next man up. Or just everyone, you know, bind together.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Lock arm in arm. We're human beings. Like, everyone had
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to be. But you don't really have time because he
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: goes off, next guy comes in. And listen. I've gotten
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions over the years about Tyson Badgett
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and what his value is. Could he be a starting quarterback?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: By the time you're listening to this on Monday, maybe
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: by lunchtime, maybe even earlier, we'll find out, like, hey,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he has a great whatever hamstring pull. Best case scenario,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it's like the lightest one, and he's out a couple weeks.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: You know, worst case is something bad, maybe he's out
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a couple months. Worst case would be like his hamstring
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: ripped off the bone, but it didn't seem like they
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: thought it was that. So let's just say it's a hamstring, whatever,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: he misses a month. He'd have a pretty good chance
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to prove to a lot of people, I'm a really
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: good player in this league. Now their offense would have
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to be dramatically different, because I don't think he brings
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the running element, and his arm strength isn't quite the same.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: But the next game the Bears play is next week,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, against Vic Fangio and the Eagles. So
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, as a backup quarterback, and that's where you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: earn your value as a coach. When your backup comes in,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: can your team keep humming? We saw Kyle Shanahan do
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it last year with Mac Jones. We've seen Mike McDonald
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: do it two weeks with Drew Locke. You know, can
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you just build a game plan? And the game plan
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: isn't just offense. It's as a team, special teams, defense.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: and find ways to win. Because I know Ben, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I don't blame him, and shit, after week one, it's like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: he might have been on to something. Greatest offense of
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: all time. Well, that's got to go out the window
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: now you've got a backup quarterback. Let's just, how do
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: we compete and beat the Eagles? We just saw the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Titans give them a game. We saw the Titans go
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: toe-to-toe with Philly. And a big reason, they picked off
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Jalen in the red zone. Jalen basically gave them seven.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It's not like Titans were scoring 30 points. He handed
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: them seven points. And he threw another pick closer to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the red zone. But you can't do that. If Jalen's
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: not turning the ball over against the Titans, the Eagles
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: win by 15 points. The only way shitty teams hang
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: with you is turning the ball over. Now, when you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: play other good teams, like the Bears next week playing
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, who are going to want some revenge. Because
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: last year on that, whatever it was, Amazon Prime Night,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Black Friday, the Bears bent him over and kicked the
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: shit out of him. And they embarrassed Vic Fangio. I mean,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was run after run after run. Physically, just
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: kicked their ass. And Vic is a prideful, curmudgeon, old
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: school guy. He is going to take this week really,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: really seriously. And he's going to try to flip it
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: on him now, if your backup quarterback has to start.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is, the Eagles are weird. They
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: can have series where they look terrible, but they can
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: also have series like that final drive where Jalen can
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: look like one of the best players in the league.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: And Devontae Smith can look like one of the best
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: wide receivers in the league. And they got playmakers on offense.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Now their running game hasn't been very good, but this
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is a pretty big moment for Ben Johnson and Tyson
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to kind of be like, it would be a big
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: moment for the Bears. And we'll find out more on Caleb.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's nothing too bad and he just has to
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: miss a couple weeks. But I'm kind of interested to
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: see Tyson. And honestly, if you're a Bears fan, if
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: he does well, that gives you some ammo in the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: offseason to trade him for a pretty valuable pick. You
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: guys could probably use some more people on defense. And
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: props to the Vikings. I mean, this is back-to-back weeks.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Last week they were losing 22-10 with their backup quarterback,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and they just find a way to score a bunch
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: of touchdowns in the blink of an eye. This week
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: they win a game 9-3. against an offense that had
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: just scored 59 points. And even before Caleb went out,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: they were making it ugly. And Flores, with his blitzing
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: left and right, he's just unique. One thing is, they
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: tell you this in my business, find a niche, do
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: something other people aren't doing. Most people don't blitz every play.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: That's pretty abnormal. That'll throw you off. Players are not
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: ready for that. It's one thing to simulate that and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: scout team. It's another thing, it's like second and seven.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: And they got about seven guys in the line of
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: scrimmage and you got no clue who's coming. And when
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: those guys come, they're not going to tag you. This
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: isn't practice. They're going to try to hit you and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they're trying to hit you hard. So the Vikings are 2-0.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think Kevin O'Connell said, after the game that he
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: expects Kyler Murray to come back this week at start.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would just keep rolling with Carson.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It's almost like superstition. Things are going well. Why mess
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: with a good thing? But we'll see if they make
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that move. How about the NFC West this afternoon? I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: JSN feels like Jerry Rice right now. He is an
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: unstoppable force. Drew Locke was fantastic. They absolutely just smothered
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Arizona as that game went. The 49ers did the same
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: thing to the Miami Dolphins. It's like Miami's pretty terrible,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: but that's how you treat a terrible team. You absolutely
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: blow them out. Purdy looked incredible. Kittle looked good. The
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: defense was, you know, Fred and Bosa flying around. Those
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: two teams are really, really good. And this goes back
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to what I said with the Chiefs, like physical, an edge.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of teams just aren't that physical. That was
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: a big New England. It's like, okay, okay, Mike McCarthy
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, we're coming for you. And that's my
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: issue with the Houston Texans. It's like, Houston, I thought
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you were going to look like Seattle's defense, and they
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: just don't really. They're giving up massive explosive plays. Obviously,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: their offense wasn't very good today, but if you're going
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to give up big explosive plays, the Bengals are going
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: to score 20-plus points, you're probably not going to win.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: The 49ers, that game was over. Purdy was awesome, but
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: he's had practices that were probably more competitive than that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: If he plays like that against some of their better opponents...
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: They've got Arizona coming up, and then they've got Denver-Seattle
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: back-to-back weeks. They're going to need that performance in one
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: of those two games. And if they get one of
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: those two games, all of a sudden the Niners will
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: be like 4-1 and be in pretty good shape. There's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a chance, I have to look at Seattle's schedule, they're
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: both undefeated going into that game, which would be freaking awesome.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Seattle and San Francisco right now look fucking good. Cincy
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: looks good. That's why I like Cincinnati. You know, most weeks,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is not going to have two catches for
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: 12 yards. He's going to do things like he did today. Why?
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: He's one of the best players in football. But their defense,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: if it's going to play like that, like, they're a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: well-rounded team. And I like Pittsburgh. Like, they're not well-rounded.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Their defense actually is not bad. Their offense stinks. Baltimore,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they can just get in these weird funks. You know,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: since he's just like, they're just good. Because they're... Their
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: offense is super explosive. They have these two dominant wide receivers.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jamar Chase is a Hall of Famer. Joe Burrow,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: if he can just stay healthy, should be a Hall
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of Famer one day. But their defense is just good.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Their defensive line, Dexter Lawrence, is a fucking man-child. Who's
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: blocking that guy? And to go into Houston, to go
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: on the road against kind of a desperate team, I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: would say this. Houston, in theory, should have had way
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: more desperation in that game than Cincinnati. And Cincinnati was
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: a team that played with an edge. We'll get out
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of here on this. I enjoy Lane Kiffin. I think
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: he's good for the entertainment of football in general. We
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: don't have as many big personalities in football as we
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: once had. College and pro. These guys make so much money.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: They're very careful about what they say and they do. Obviously,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: in college, you're probably more active on social media than
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: NFL coaches. But, like, I grew up in a day
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: with Bill Parcells, Mike Ditka, guys that were just guaranteed soundbites. Now, like,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the biggest soundbite in the NFL is Jerry Jones. He
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: owns the team, you know? He had a great quote today, like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: scary thing is when a rich man has a lot
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: of money. Or he said some comment like that. I'm like, Jerry,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: what are you even talking about? But Jerry's like hanging
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: out with Bezos. Most of these coaches, like you watch
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a Mike McDonald press conference, like he's not exactly, you know,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: pressing other people's buttons. You know, it was like controversial
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: when the dude on the Ravens said he's a poor
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: man's Josh Allen. Somehow that was to the Saints. The
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Saints coach has called Tyler Schuch all week that he's
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: called him a poor man. I take that as a compliment,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: but maybe because I use that phrase. But I get
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: how you manipulate it. But all these coaches are very
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: careful what they say. Not all of them are as miserable.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: You see Belichick's interviews? It's like, Bill, you can't lose
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and be miserable and have your entire staff get fired
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: and quit and do cocaine. You are not long for
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: this job if you're going to be this angry and
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: have a cocaine problem and people resigning left and right.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: This is not going to work out. You've got to
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: at least be positive and upbeat. But you can't. You
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: can't even fake it. You're telling me a 75-year-old man
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: worth nine figures is going to pretend to be something
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he's not. Clearly not. But in college, sometimes you've got
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to fake it a little bit. You've got to put
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: on the political hat and just play it up for
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: the donors, for the press conferences, for the recruits. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: get it. And then there's Lane, who's in his own world.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: And it's pretty entertaining from the outside. But part of
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the entertainment has to be, you do end up playing
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: games sometimes. And I think the thing with Lane is
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: there is so much hype behind him because he's stroking
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: that fire, right? Like Saban and Urban and Kirby, like
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: they create their own by dominating and just winning. It's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: my thing with like Sark. It's like, I get the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: media loves the guy. I get the talking heads and ESPN.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Everyone tries to anoint the guy they have forever. It's like, well,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: eventually he's got to win a big game. And he
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: finally did a week ago. Hell, Ryan Day wasn't the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: biggest fan. I can't say shit after he goes and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: wins the national championship. Oh, he's got a ring. I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: think there's only four active coaches in college with rings.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And he's one of them. So he's backed it up.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: And over the course of his career, he's won a
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: lot of big games. Google Lane's resume. So for all
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the talk behind Lane, and he's great at it, he's
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: a master marketing machine. He's not backing it up with
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: just massive win after massive win after massive win. You
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: could make the argument that Pete Golding beating Georgia, Lane's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: also beat Georgia, so those can cancel out. Now Pete
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: beat him in a playoff game. Beating Louisville, who looks
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: like they're probably going to go 10-2 and 11-1 and
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. And then beating Lane... who has
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a more expensive roster... who I think we all agree...
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: if you were drafting those two teams... Trinidad would go one.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: There's a chance the next... seven or eight players are
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: LSU players. Keywon Lacy... Deuce Alexander would be the only
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: two guys in the mix. And Keywon Lacy's been hurt
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: two of the three games they've played. Hasn't been able
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: to finish them. So... Lane has this super expensive roster.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: He gets whatever he wants... You've got to back it
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: up with some wins. Because that's when it's like, okay,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: they had the better quarterback. I saw a tweet about
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Lane's quarterback that said, Sam Levitt plays like Cam Scadaboo's
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: brain is in Jackson Dart's body. Obviously, Sam has talent.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: He looks like a big athlete. He's got a strong arm.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: But there's something a little off. And the pocket presence,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, the gap between those two quarterbacks was really,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: really wide. And Trinidad, in the third quarter, for what
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: felt like the first time all season, now granted I
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: didn't watch last week's game against the Sisters of the Blind,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: but in the third quarter for back-to-back series when LSU
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: started getting back in, he actually kind of went through
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: a little rut. He was overthrowing some balls, he was
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: underthrowing some balls, he was just a little off. He
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: gave them an opening. And they couldn't take advantage. Because
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: their quarterback just simply wasn't good enough. And when it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: mattered the most, obviously to start the game, Trinidad was incredible.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: And when it mattered the most at the end, Trinidad
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: was incredible. Like, to me, the only knock on him
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: is that he's short. And I think sometimes that bleeds
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: into some of his throws, especially over the middle, can
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: get a little high. And I think that gets back
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: to when you're 5'10, 5'11, you know, if you're 6'4,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: it's a little easier to see that guy coming in.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if his line of sight is perfect.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So I think the, cause I do think he's a
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: naturally accurate passer, but when you're smaller and can't see
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: as well, I do think some of certain throws are
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: a little more difficult to make, but in terms of
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: best quarterback in college football, I don't even think it's debatable.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And if you told me like, he's a Heisman finalist lock,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: as long as he stays healthy and, I, to me,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: he feels they are another big win away. If they
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: just go 10 and two and he puts up stats,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: even in a loss, let's say to Georgia or Texas.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: And he, he just keeps playing. Well, I don't see
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: how he doesn't win it. The story of him going
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: from D two to, to Ole Miss winning the playoff
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: games last year. Now beating lane like that in front
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: of millions of people, uh, He's an incredible story, an
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: incredible player to watch. His athleticism, his arm talent, his
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: arm accuracy when he does see. He made a couple
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: throws that were just out of this world. His speed.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I heard someone in college football. His game winning touchdown run.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: The guy that was running him down. Is one of
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: if not the best athletes on LSU's defense. And he
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't catch him. Like Trinidad is a high end athlete. Now,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: with the draft conversation around him, no one would argue
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: he's not. If he was 6'2, he'd be a lock,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I think, top two pick. We'll have to see how
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: it plays out with some of the other guys. But
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he would go really, really high. I do think you've
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: seen it with Baker today. Sometimes it feels like it's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: hard for Baker to see. You've seen it with Kyler forever.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it seems like it's hard for them to see.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: And I do think that plays in to the NFL evaluation.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And I think it's a fair conversation. Even though I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: think all the GMs and all the scouts, I don't
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: think people are not going to like him as a player.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And historically, guys like them, you didn't have to have
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: these crazy conversations because they never went in the first round.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: You could get them between pick 50 and pick 75. Now,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: with a guy this good, this much hype, they just
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: go really, really high. And... It feels like Ben on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a different planet for the last seven or eight games
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: he's played in. Definitely the playoff run and then against
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Louisville and against LSU. It's been, as just a fan
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: of college football, as a fan of just watching great
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks play, it's been a joy to watch. And the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: pride that he brought a program that a guy said,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you're not good enough. I don't think the ceiling of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: this program is good enough. even though you were the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: only program that gave me a shot, even though you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: were the only program that let me do whatever the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: hell I wanted to do, you were the only program
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: that stood by me no matter what, even as I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: secretly tried to get all these other jobs, and they
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: all laughed at me. And then Pete Golding, who, if
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you follow college football, you knew who he was because
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: he was Alabama's defensive coordinator, and then when he went
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: with Lane, just seemed like a good guy. Seemed like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: a very likable guy. Just beat you. Just beat you. Like,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: it's just tough. Now, over the course of the next
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: five years, like, is Ole Miss ever, feels like Trinidad's, like,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: between the two Mannings that played there, Archie and Eli,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and Jackson, Dart, like, you know, listen, is this as
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: good as it's going to get? Maybe. But for that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: moment in time to beat Lane like that, and I, listen,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I do think Lane said after the game, coming up,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the emotions would feel like. I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: actually kind of felt gratitude. I want to give him
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt and say he actually felt
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: that and believed that. But that's what is hard with Lane.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Is he just saying that because he knows it will
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: get some sappy people off his back? Does he actually
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: believe that? He clearly changed a lot there as a human.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Stopped drinking, looks way better. Obviously, he started winning a lot.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: more 10-win seasons than any in the history of the program.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just think eventually you got
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to back it up with some substance. And right now
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: there's just a lot of bark, which is entertaining. Sometimes
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: dog barking is like, shut up. I kind of enjoy it.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I think most people that aren't like diehard Ole Miss people,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he's just kind of good for the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: college football world. But eventually, you gotta start kicking ass
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: and taking some names. Like, say what you want about Cignetti. Nerdy,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: says some weird shit. Guy dominates. I mean, dominates. Kirby's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: been kicking ass for like 10 straight years. Before he
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: could win that, he's the only person he couldn't beat.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: The only person. Was Nick Saban. Lane's losing to Pete Golding.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, what are we talking about here? So...
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: This is the SEC, man. The expectation's going to be
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: really high. And with that quarterback play, I still think
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: LSU's probably a playoff team, but can you trust Sam
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: in some of these big environments? It's not easy. And
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: now there's tangible pressure. The other thing is, in this
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: world of NIL transfer portal mercenaries, this is the thing
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: with the NFL. Teams like the Colts or whatever, if
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: your coach is kind of on the hot seat... What
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: happens after you lose a couple games? Do you splinter?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Do you just completely crack? It happens in the NFL
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: all the time, like the Dolphins last year. We just
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: know this thing's over. In college football, it's like you're
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: one more loss away from people kind of checking. This
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: isn't 10 years ago when it's like, LSU till I die.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: LSU till Ohio State offers me some money. LSU till
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: John Summerall picks up the phone and calls me. So
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: these days we live in are completely different And we'll
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: see how he kind of holds this together with all
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: these mercenaries that he's bought. And he's kind of a mercenary.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: So this is going to test him. I'm kind of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: fascinated to watch how LSU rebounds from this one. Adios.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Have a great night. Talk soon.