Latest / THE STILL REAL TO US SHOW – Real Guy Radio / The Rock takes Cody Rhodes' spot at WrestleMania 40 | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #730 – 2/8/24
Transcript
- 0:00It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome to this week's edition is Surreal That show
- 0:21episode number seven hundred and thirty for February eighth, twenty twenty four. This
- 0:26year, NFC vengis a recap and review editions of as R Gee You.
- 0:33I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Peck, joined every
- 0:36single week on looking at by my co host One Way, Doctor Tray Franklin,
- 0:40Doctor Trey. They're telling us to play the long game here, my
- 0:43friend, trust the process, play the long game, believe in the higher
- 0:50you know, all those all those great analogies that we used to hear from,
- 0:53like you know, you're rebuilding sports Ranisis, we're hearing from bro Wrestling.
- 0:59So yeah, Jeff, I'm gonna trust the process and keep getting high
- 1:02draft picks and maybe one of the whole fan out That's what I'm going with.
- 1:04So let's get right into it here. I don't really have to recap
- 1:08everything that's been going on for the most part because it's been nearly a week
- 1:12later. This episode is dropping Thursday morning, well ahead of the press conference
- 1:19that is set to air Thursday night on Peacock, which is tuning into Like
- 1:25Mussy television now, so props at we for a press event turning into mussy
- 1:30television. But we are in a very strange time period in professional wrestling right
- 1:38now, where on Friday Night, it's funny because go back a month ago,
- 1:42Day one of twenty twenty four, extremely excited Rock and Roman reigns.
- 1:49Months prior, Rock is on College Game Day or he's on ESPN and Pat
- 1:53McAfee show. He's talking about how he was supposed to face Roman Rains the
- 1:57restume of thirty nine, and then he makes a surprise appearance with Pat McAfee
- 2:00on SmackDown that night. Everybody it's like, oh, this is exciting.
- 2:05Rock and Roman reigns. Rock and Roman reigns well, it appears we finally
- 2:08get it, and fans are pissed. Why because the Royal rumble happened.
- 2:16Cody Rhodes won. Cody Rhodes pointed at Roman reigns. The whole thing we've
- 2:23been behind is to finish your story, Cody, and the story is to
- 2:27go through Roman reigns. Well. On Friday Night SmackDown, we perceive that
- 2:32he stepped out of the way, paused his story, said the plan was
- 2:38still to go after Roman reigns. At some point the plan was still to
- 2:40go after the WA Championship, but stepped aside to give that shot at WrestleMania
- 2:49to the Rock, and then the Internet blew up, Doctor Trey. Leave
- 2:57it to a guy from AW to say something that blows up the internet now,
- 3:00just kidding. Yeah, uh, I still have not completely wrapped my
- 3:07head around Friday Night because it makes the way they set it up makes zero
- 3:13sense, which is so why I totally understood the internet being upset. But
- 3:20yeah, at the same time, you and I sat here a couple of
- 3:22weeks ago and said, what is the bigger money making match, the biggest
- 3:25draw, what would get people to buy into Peacock? And the answer is
- 3:34Rock versus Roman ratings. So I totally get why the hardcore fan base is
- 3:38upset because you work your ass off to win the royld Rumble, to get
- 3:43a match to Maine event WrestleMania, and you just let it go and don't
- 3:49really explain why. So I, for the first time, probably in the
- 3:54Triple h tenure, we have something booked that does it make sense that doesn't
- 4:00have tie ins, like if Cody Roads had come out and said I'm giving
- 4:05my shot to Randy Orton, I would have been like, okay, cool,
- 4:10they're friends legacy like Randy helped bring Cody up. There's really not a
- 4:15Rock Cody Rock Dusty tight connection really, So it's it's confusing. But on
- 4:26paper, if you just said, hey, at WrestleMania, what match would
- 4:29draw more people to to Peacock Rock versus Roman would win? That would win
- 4:33that hands down. Yeah. And and what's funny about this entire thing is
- 4:39I am a huge fan of the Rock. The Rock is probably my favorite
- 4:45wrestler of all time. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 4:47How many of the Rocks product lines have you bought into because of the
- 4:51Rock, like the under armour and all that stuff, the under armour,
- 4:55the VODK or the tequila like nony Funny enough, I have not. I've
- 5:00not ever bought into any of that stuff. I don't need more under armor
- 5:03clothes, and I've got more tequila up above my eyebrows that I still have
- 5:10to get to. Not as big of a drinker as I used to be.
- 5:13Plenty of patrons sitting here in my casa. As one may say,
- 5:16but I do really want to try chamana, I must say. But I'm
- 5:20a huge fan of the Rock. Things that I have invested in is a
- 5:25ton of merchandise WWE related merchandise of the Rock. I own the T shirt
- 5:30stuff like that. The real last time I went to wrestling shows that I
- 5:35really wanted to, like go to was Survivor Series two thousand and eleven,
- 5:44two thousand and twelve. I think it was the one in MSG where Cmpunk
- 5:47won the title and started as Ran. I think those twenty eleven and we're
- 5:50retaged with scene against the Awesome Truth, which is now since reunited, So
- 5:55maybe Rock is actually teaming with Sina for another rematch there against Awesome Truth,
- 6:00who's reunited at wrestmting. That's what this is all leading to. And then
- 6:03Wrestlemaning twenty nine, which I've talked about at great length, Like my goal
- 6:09was to always go to a Wrestleman in my life bucket list item I did
- 6:12it, loved it. Rock was in the main event of that match against
- 6:16John Cena, lost and was basically his last full time wrestling match, unless
- 6:23you're counting the match that he had with Eric Rowan at Wrestleman thirty one that
- 6:27was impromptu, but nonetheless like a huge fan of the rock, like my
- 6:30favorite of all time promos in ring stuff, loved the Rock. So when
- 6:38I knew he was coming back, I was like super excited, super stoked.
- 6:42Going back to September October the Day one episodes, like if you go
- 6:46back and listen to those podcasts, there is legit ex signment for me and
- 6:48Doctor Trey when it comes to Cody Rhodes. I'm not the biggest Cody Rhodes
- 6:56fanom all time. His character to me is the next you know, path
- 7:01of Sina rains to Cody, like it appears Cody is going to become the
- 7:05face of w w W, and I like Cody a lot. He's really
- 7:11won me over. You go back to those episodes when aw was launching,
- 7:15I did not have nice things to say about Cody Rhodes because the amount of
- 7:18times that he was like poking at w w W when awhid not launched,
- 7:21had a single show yet I think I use the words of like he came
- 7:26off like a used car salesman, which I've heard people say in the past
- 7:30about him. But he has really won me over as time has gone on,
- 7:34So you would think when this moment happened on SmackDown, I would be
- 7:40all for the Rock coming out challenging Roman Reigns, and when he came out,
- 7:44I was, and then the realization hit me, like holy crap,
- 7:47Like this does not make any sense at all. And a week ago when
- 7:50we did the podcast, we even discussed if they went down to the Rock
- 7:55Roman Reigns, you know, going to Cody and Seth Rollins, like how
- 7:58they got to get there, because it's not going to make sense, and
- 8:01so far in less than a week's time pre media event on Thursday night in
- 8:07Las Vegas, it doesn't make sense. And I think that's the biggest problem
- 8:13in this all, where if Cody didn't lose to Rome in the way he
- 8:18did last year, if Cody didn't win the Rumble like he did this year
- 8:24and point to Roman Reigns, then Rock interjecting himself into this storyline would make
- 8:31sense. But they went the way that they went, even with planting seeds
- 8:37throughout this last month and people being excited and completely have I don't want to
- 8:46say they've fucked it up because we don't know how this fully plays out yet
- 8:50and WWE seems to think like telling their fan base, I mean Cody Road
- 8:54is literally twitting it out. Trust me, I don't know how this is
- 9:00going to play out, but from what I know in less than a week's
- 9:03time, the way that it has played out is not good booking. Fans
- 9:11want to see Cody cash in. They want to see him finish his story.
- 9:13I'm a fan who's invested. I want to see him finish his story.
- 9:18It makes a ton of sense. The Rock and Roman Reigns doesn't need
- 9:22a title. The Rock and Roman Reigns can take place at another time.
- 9:26You've already gotten us this far to believe that we were going to get Cody
- 9:31Roman too, and the likelihood of him finally overcoming that and winning the WE
- 9:35Championship seems very very possible. And then they did what they did on Friday,
- 9:39Doctor Trey And for the biggest rock fan that there is, for someone
- 9:45who wants to see him wrestle and be a regular participant in w when he's
- 9:48available and can do it, boy, oh boy, I don't want to
- 9:52see him play out like this like it has so far. Yeah, Like
- 9:56part of it is the storyline, and art of it is the real life
- 10:01stuff for me, Like the storyline. You know you you watch these two
- 10:05rumbles, and you watch and for us like you and I watching, you
- 10:09know, and you know, watching Bailey win and what a moment it was
- 10:11for her. And even though she's a heel quote unquote heel character at the
- 10:16time, you're like, oh, this would be really good. Plus it's
- 10:18great for her career because it's like the one thing on her list she hadn't
- 10:20done yet, and all these other things like that we talked about and we've
- 10:26spent the last fifteen twenty years, twenty five years, we see going back
- 10:31to Sean Michaels, you know, really when they started doing the whole like
- 10:35the winner of the Rumble, you know, gets the shot at WrestleMania.
- 10:37Like we've been trained that winning the Rumble is so very important, how life
- 10:45changing it is, and what an opportunity is. And you and I,
- 10:48like, you know, for some of us, you know, one of
- 10:50the best memories we have is the night that you know, Eddie Guerrero and
- 10:54Chris bin Wall won their championships, but that was tied into what happened at
- 10:58the Rumble, Like all these things we have watched happen to have somebody step
- 11:03aside and give that opportunity to somebody else is mind blowing, and you can
- 11:13look at it one of two ways. It's almost like Cody would did it,
- 11:16you know, character wise, Cody did it because you know The Rock
- 11:20asked him? Or is Cody scared or is Cody so cocky that he just
- 11:22knows he's gonna get another shot at it, So none of those things really
- 11:26tie in to make that character look good. And then you get all this
- 11:30stuff from you know, The Rock joining TKO's board of directors and getting the
- 11:35rights to use the name The Rock. You know that he's had to pay
- 11:39for license for years from WWE, and you know the the thirty million dollars
- 11:45stock options he got, and then all of a sudden, now he's thrust
- 11:48into the main event of wrestling. Me Like, all those things come together
- 11:50for those diehard wrestling fans, and it's understandable why everybody's so upset. You
- 11:56know, if I was here a fancy booking in my head and like,
- 11:58okay, you know what they you know they could have done. Has had
- 12:01Cody win the Rumble, but have Randy win the title, and you could
- 12:05have done Cody and Randy and we would all be like, oh, that
- 12:09would be really good. You still could have done Rock and Rollman and Seth
- 12:13and Gunther and had a really good WrestleMania car of that, or Seth and
- 12:16Drew back or whatever you want to do and still have a really great WrestleMania
- 12:22car to not have everybody beat this upset. So it's confusing. I I
- 12:30think Triple H and creative WB I have earned my uh faith so to speak,
- 12:39that it will all play out and work well between now and WrestleMania.
- 12:43But yeah, the initial reaction is just like WTF, Like what the what?
- 12:50What they have? Guys, like this makes zero sense at all based
- 12:54on what the Cody character has had. You and I. When Cody lost
- 12:58to WrestleMania, we all said it's good for his aracter because now he has
- 13:00to overcome obstacles to get back to the rematch. He overcame all these obstacles
- 13:05and they gave the rematch up or right now. It just doesn't make sense
- 13:09for the Cody character right now. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. It
- 13:11doesn't make sense. What would have made sense if you wanted Rock Roman for
- 13:18the title would have been Rock making an appearance at the Rumble, winning the
- 13:22Rumble and going from there for their match, and would people have been up
- 13:28in arms still, probably not as bad. I think they would have saved
- 13:35face, and I think fans would have been excited. I'm kind of jaded
- 13:39right now based on all the reactions that fans are having, But let us
- 13:43not forget that the live crowd in Birmingham, Alabama on Friday night was like
- 13:48super excited. I think that's because they were caught off guard, probably didn't
- 13:50think that they would see the Rock live. The fans day one, that
- 13:54reaction was phenomenal and what they were looking for. The execut cusian here of
- 14:00all of this just does not make sense. And doctor Trey made mention of
- 14:07like how we got there, And there is a lot of conflicting reports right
- 14:09now. There are reports out there that once Punk went down with injury,
- 14:15once Lesner went out because of all the allegations that are taking place with John
- 14:18Lennon and I sits like man and and Brock Lesler's name allegedly you know,
- 14:24being alluded to in the lawsuit, that Rock came in and felt that he
- 14:28needed to save WrestleMania. There was also reports out there that Rock threw his
- 14:33political power TKO Board of directors or figureheads basically super ceded what creative wanted to
- 14:41do and supplemented Rock into the storyline and moved Cody out of it and Cody
- 14:46was replaced. There are reports out there that people are starting to think that
- 14:50this is all one big storyline and this is what w wanted to have happened
- 14:56there. You know, you've got Brian Gerertz, who is a former w
- 14:58WE creat writer, a right hand man for the Rock, who is now
- 15:03going to be involved with the creative process now that Rock is involved until WrestleMania,
- 15:05that is saying like basically playing the long game. Rock came out with
- 15:11a video on Instagram on Wednesday night, landing in Las Vegas, mentioning the
- 15:16long game. Like I said before, Cody Road saying trust me, it's
- 15:22Monday Night's Raw. They did not come out and say Cody did not come
- 15:26out and say he is picking Seth Rollins. He made you believe it he
- 15:30would be picking Seth Rollins on Monday's Raw. But maybe something changing creative.
- 15:33The whole thing is completely cloudy right now, and if the execution of this
- 15:41solves itself soon, maybe they can save face. But I would say that
- 15:48while they've created a buzz. I don't think it's the buzz that you tend
- 15:54to want. I don't think Rock came back to wrestling to wrestle Roman Reigns
- 16:02to get booed, to be called a hypocrite for his for him to be
- 16:07like using alleged political power, for his daughter who works in NXT, to
- 16:12have to shut down her ex account because people are giving her death threats,
- 16:15which is just absurd for a wrestling storyline where Rocky sucks Chance are being said
- 16:22on WE television for the first time in like twenty five years, and according
- 16:29to Wrussell votes on X that threw off people behind the scenes that they did
- 16:33not expect Rocky sucks chance. I don't think Rock stopped his busy schedule came
- 16:40back to WW to cash in on some alleged stock bonus that's maybe like thirty
- 16:45million dollars if he performs for WW and wrestles to have all this bad publicity.
- 16:52And I know that there's a figure speech out there to doctor Trey that
- 16:55you know, any publicity is good publicity. And I believe it's Eric Bishop
- 17:00who always has said controversy creates cash. But I don't know sitting here today
- 17:04February eighth, twenty twenty four, that this is all the right controversy and
- 17:10publicity that you want for the company heading into their biggest show of the year.
- 17:14We've made up so much ground in recent years and re one faith that
- 17:19was lost for a very long time in your wrestling product, regained it and
- 17:23have had some of the best business in years potentially. Ever recently, I
- 17:30don't think that they wanted to all come crashing down in like six days time.
- 17:33Yeah, sometimes I think they forget how passionate wrestling fans are. It's
- 17:38like, you know, I was thinking as you were talking about, like,
- 17:41you know, maybe they should have had the Rock win the Rumble and
- 17:42didn't that be I was like that if they thought of when Batista won the
- 17:47Rumble, But the fans wanted Daniel Bryant and it changed wrestle media plans and
- 17:52everything else. And you know, I've heard the different things like, hey,
- 17:55this is a setup to actually you know, get Cody on that Daniel
- 17:59Bryant level, a fan fervor just you know, you know, anticipating the
- 18:03eventual rematch even more. You know, all these different things, and You're
- 18:08right, like, to me, if if you had set this up right,
- 18:11you know, if let's say Cody wins the Rumble and then Solo and
- 18:15Jimmy just come out annihilate him, and the Rock makes the same and then
- 18:22you're like, ooh, Rock, Roman, there you go. And then
- 18:23Cody has to kind of rehab for a little bit and Rock gets his match
- 18:27because you don't know if they don't know if Cody's gonna be released in time,
- 18:30and Cody ends up in something else, like we could have we could
- 18:33have worked with that, you know, or something. You know, there
- 18:36are ways of doing it that would have made it work where you're not getting
- 18:38those chants. And the crazy thing enough was you know, SmackDown's in Birmingham.
- 18:44I'm in Memphis, and I'm hearing all these reports, like I have
- 18:47friends of my taking pictures with the Rock outside the area, and I'm like,
- 18:49oh my god, this is gonna be interesting to see how this goes.
- 18:52And it's been one of the craziest weeks storyline wise, behind the scenes
- 18:59wise, everything else, in quite a long time. And it all leads
- 19:03to Philadelphia, where Rock and Roman stood in the ring together at the Royal
- 19:07Rumble a few years back, and got booed out of the building, and
- 19:12unless they changed, unless they fix something here and get the fans back on
- 19:18their side, that match might get equal amount of booze for both guys in
- 19:23Philadelphia, because we know what a Philadelphia crowd is like if they're not happy
- 19:27with the storyline for those matches. I mean, I saw people saying that
- 19:32this could be like like John Cena walking into One night Stand, and I'm
- 19:36like, I don't think it'll be that level, but I mean it could
- 19:40be one of those things where people just like, you know, like Rock
- 19:41Roman at the WrestleMania I was at New or Rock and Brock Roman and Brock
- 19:47at the Wrestleman of New Orleans I was at where half the arena laughed before
- 19:49the main events. So it's really really imperative on them for this press conference
- 19:57in this episode of Frederick's SmackDown to go really well for them to hopefully alter
- 20:03this this avalanche of negative emotion coming down upon them when they've had so much
- 20:08positive press for the last two years. As far as the in ring product,
- 20:14in the storyline, product goes, you know, Vince John Laurin and
- 20:17is everybody else aside? So Doctor Trey. One of the things that we've
- 20:22we've talked about here, right like, obviously we're trying to think of long
- 20:26game, trust, the process, blah blah blah, right, and we
- 20:29want to think about solutions. One of the things that we've heard in reports
- 20:34and one of the things that we've talked about here as a potential here on
- 20:37the show is that Roman would defend the title against both Cody Roads and The
- 20:44Rock in both nights at WrestleMania. I think that that's a very possible destination
- 20:52in this all is that say, night one it's Rock and Roman, and
- 20:57Night two Cody Roads face is the winner. Do you think that that is
- 21:03a very real possibility right now? Was the plan all along? I just
- 21:07have this feeling that maybe by next week you and I know what the solution
- 21:14is. And I think the plan of which we've discussed. I don't remember
- 21:18if it was like for last year's wrestuming or this upcoming one, but we've
- 21:21talked about in the show we could see a scenario where Roman is facing Cody
- 21:25one night, Roman's facing Rock the next night. Yeah, it was last
- 21:29year, and I talked about last year leading the last year's because that Rock
- 21:32with Roman match had been rumored for so long. My only issue with it
- 21:36now is, here's a scenario. Let's say Rock and Roman go at it
- 21:40on Night one and Roman wins, but it's a twenty minute match, twenty
- 21:45five minute match, and then Cody wins Night two. Now there's a cloud
- 21:48over it. If you're a wrestling fan, say, well, the only
- 21:52reason Cody won is because Roman head with then the belt back to back nights.
- 21:56So are you really getting that clan when of Cody fishing story or is
- 22:00there always gonna be like an asterisk next to it? In some people's eyes,
- 22:04I think if, when, when, and if they pull the trigger
- 22:07on Cody beating Roman, you want it to be clean. You wanted to
- 22:11be no doubt, because that shit, that's almost like the passing of the
- 22:15torch, so to speak, from the face of the current generation to the
- 22:19face of the next generation. So I don't know if I'm not born with
- 22:22it like to me right now, they've almost put themselves into a weird position
- 22:27where you can't really pull the trigger on Cody and Roman until SummerSlam, and
- 22:33even then, is it really finishing the story if it's at Summer Slam I'm
- 22:36not at a WrestleMania, so I don't know what they can do to really
- 22:41appease everybody right now, because every scenario right now is still a yeah but
- 22:48types of situation, because the whole point of the Rubble is to face the
- 22:52champion that you want to face at WrestleMania. And I mean, hell,
- 22:57the the new two K twenty four games coming out here right in a couple
- 23:03of weeks actually, I think it comes out like late March, right before
- 23:06wrestlemedia. The whole point of that is the whole thing is finish your story.
- 23:11So I don't really know how they properly finish the story to make everybody
- 23:18happy right now, considering what they've done since Royal Roambo. Yeah, it's
- 23:22all very strange, very all convoluted. We'll obviously, I would imagine this
- 23:27picture is a little bit more clear a week from around when we sit down
- 23:30and do the podcast than it is presently. Maybe it's a little bit more
- 23:34clearer tonight d during the media event, depending on when folks who are listening
- 23:40to this Thursday night. Maybe at this point you know what's happened at the
- 23:42media event, and knowing what happened on SmackDown by the time you listen to
- 23:45this podcast and you listen to us as we try to figure this all out
- 23:49pre all of those situations taking place. But it's a very interesting situation.
- 23:56I know there's been scenarios out there that it would be Rock and Roman,
- 24:00Seth and Cody. Cody wins he faces Roman at Summerslamp for a unification match,
- 24:04and when I heard that, I was, I like threw up in
- 24:07my mouth, like, we don't need we don't need another unification match.
- 24:11Been there, done it. I hate it as it is. I hate
- 24:15that the WE Championship is not the Sometimes it's referred to the W Championship.
- 24:22Sometimes it's referred to the Universal Championship. Sometimes it's the undisputed W Universal Championship.
- 24:26It's just like, I'm just tired of it. It just it stopped
- 24:30doing titled unification matches unless you're permanently retiring a championship. Other than that doesn't
- 24:37make sense. So I just I have no idea where things are going right
- 24:41now. So I think just to tie this all up, Doctor Trey,
- 24:45because I know a lot of people wanted to hear our thoughts on this.
- 24:47I saw emails I got I got stuff on Twitter that I saw that people
- 24:51wanted to hear what we had to say about it. So what is the
- 24:55best outcome in this all? Is the best outcome Rock Roman? Just excuse
- 25:00me? Cody versus Roman takes place. Rock doesn't wrestle at wrestlming he forty,
- 25:04Maybe he serves as the guest host. Maybe he serves as the special
- 25:07guest referee for that match. What is what is the solution that you want
- 25:14to see play out that you think makes fans happy? Because I can't believe
- 25:18it here we are five weeks later, because five weeks ago you and I
- 25:22were and we are saying this in our responses, like Rock and Roman is
- 25:25a dream match, but the way that they have executed so far is extremely
- 25:29poor, and we would rather see a Cody Roman match. So what what
- 25:34makes the fans happy? Because that's what WW has to do, is they
- 25:37have to serve their fan base, especially for the biggest show of the year.
- 25:41So as a Restlue fan, what I would do is I would have,
- 25:45you know, do the press conference and how's the match? Then either
- 25:49on SmackDown this like either this Friar the one of the one of the SmackDown's
- 25:53coming up, and now it's which match I'm getting? Okay, Okay,
- 25:57I got you. I'm sorry. And as Roman and Rock is the match
- 26:02for WrestleMania, and Cody hasn't made a choice, you do SmackDown or you
- 26:07do a SmackDown either this Friday or next Friday where the Bloodline jumps Rock beats
- 26:12him down. John Cena makes the safe right Cody, They say Rock can't
- 26:18wrestle or Rocks you know what Rock and Sina wants Solo and Jimmy says they're
- 26:23the ones attack. Then Cody gets the shot at Roman, and so you
- 26:26get Rock Sena against Solo and Jimmy Cody versus Roman, and then you can
- 26:32do Seth versus Drew versus Sammy on the Rock side. So but you don't
- 26:36do Jimmy versus Jay and Mania. Now, unfortunately, I think you have
- 26:40to You have to pass on, are you? Or you do Rock and
- 26:42Solo? I don't like to me, the path has got to be you
- 26:45got to get back to Cody and Roman if you want to make the fans
- 26:48happy, unless you do something so out of left field that you and I
- 26:52who have been watching wrestling for forty is almost seventy years combined. If you're
- 26:59on watching wrestling, that something so left fielding you and I don't see it
- 27:03coming because right now you and I have literally probably fancy booked every angle we
- 27:07could think of in the last twenty minutes trying to figure out the way to
- 27:11get to this. But unless you do something so dramatically that makes the fans
- 27:17want this match so bad, and maybe it's we go back to the old
- 27:21Jeff Peck idea of you know, a couple of years ago where Roman starts
- 27:23insulting Rock's mom, you know, there was something like that, like I
- 27:26don't I don't really know. I always thought that that would hit I thought
- 27:30that would be a really good segment if they did that, or Roman spears
- 27:34Ava, you know, or something so like heinous that we want Rock to
- 27:41get revenge on the Roman for because right now it's just this is just a
- 27:45sorry for my language, it's a dick measuring contest between Rock and Roman.
- 27:48Yeah, that's what's boiling down to who's the head of the table. Mine's
- 27:51bigger than yours. Like there, you go back and forth, like it's
- 27:52all ego. You have to somehow make this personal for us to really care,
- 27:57because right now we have no events been in this story other than just
- 28:02dreammatch on paper. You go back to see it Rock, they've made it
- 28:06personal. They may they You go back to some of those promos and see
- 28:10it was cut on the Rock and you go back to one about I don't
- 28:11have to wear my promo on my wrist, and you can see Rock getting
- 28:15pissed off in the ring, and we were like, oh, that looks
- 28:17real right now. There's no intensity, there's nothing, there's no there's no
- 28:22personal animosity until your Rock and almost for us the care. You have to
- 28:23make something personal for us, the care. Otherwise the fans are gonna be
- 28:27they're gonna treat this like they did that when they announced Batista to Orton for
- 28:30wrestled Bania after Rumble, and the fans forced Daniel Bryant into that spot and
- 28:37he had the rustall twice to make it to make it worthwhile for everybody,
- 28:40like it took a lot for the fans to give they wanted right now,
- 28:44like you got to make people care that the Rock is in dispatching right now,
- 28:48nobody gives a crack. Yeah, and that's shocking because this is something
- 28:51I think, at least me as a wrestling man, I could speak on
- 28:53my own behalf I've been wanting to see for two three years now would be
- 28:59this match ever since Roman went heel and it's been on this bloodline run.
- 29:03I always felt like that this was part of the endgame for the entire thing
- 29:10was this. You're not saying I'm the head of the table. I put
- 29:14food on my family's table. I'm the tribal chief of my family, knowing
- 29:18that the Rock is part of the family. So we've been waiting for this
- 29:22basically ever since he turned heel nearly four years ago now and in the very
- 29:27very very short term of where they started to hit into fourth gear to make
- 29:33this a reality. It has been executed very poorly. There's just like so
- 29:37many things. It's like, why didn't you just have Rock performing the Rumble
- 29:41as a surprise entrant if you're going to do that, And that was my
- 29:45thing the entire time, ever since they teased it on that day. One
- 29:48edition is how do we get there? Because you have the Rumble coming up?
- 29:52How do we get there? And how we're getting there right now is
- 29:56very discombobulated and confusing, and I hope that the WWE Creative Team and the
- 30:04parts involved untwine this entire ball of yarn so that it makes sense for wrestling
- 30:12fans a week from now, because if it doesn't, this could be bad.
- 30:17I don't want to get to a situation right now where it's Rock Roman
- 30:21in Philadelphia Wrestlemanting forty one of the main events and it's just a boofest,
- 30:26because that is not fun as a fan at home, that's not fun for
- 30:30people in the stadium, and it makes for a memorable moment in WrestleMania for
- 30:37all the bad things. If it wasn't for the seth ROMs cash in at
- 30:41Wrestlemanta thirty one, I think a lot of people would look back at that
- 30:44Brock Lesnar Roman reigns match as something they did not want to have happened,
- 30:48and happened. Doctor Trey brings up Roman versus Brock at Wrestlemanta thirty four because
- 30:53he was there. That is a main event that is quickly forgotten and forgettable,
- 30:59and for all the right reasons, because it was something fans did not
- 31:02want to see at that time and was being pushed down our throats by w
- 31:04Creative and that's what this feels like again, and it's just sad because five
- 31:10weeks ago, I think you had every nearly every other wrestling fan in on
- 31:15this. It's I think the easiest thing would have been that Rocks that have
- 31:19Shed should have said yes to Restumting thirty nine and prevented this entire thing from
- 31:26the get go. You would have never had this story of the follow up
- 31:27story of Cody versus Roman, or if they knew that Roman was available to
- 31:33do this show, then you should have ran with Cody and Roman rematch at
- 31:37SummerSlam or something, because this is just not not good, not a good
- 31:41scenario. But again, I'm very intrigued to see what happens at the media
- 31:45event Thursday night. So we've spent well over a half hour on this,
- 31:48but it is, without a doubt the biggest story in professional wrestling right now.
- 31:52The direction of this Rock Roman Reigns, Cody road Stuff for Restumting forty
- 31:57because a revolt has ensued and it's a very few times Refreshion and wrestling that
- 32:01we see this happen. Everybody's pointing to Daniel Bryan in the S movement.
- 32:05This is eerily reminiscent to it, and We'll see. We'll see where this
- 32:10goes from here. Switching gears but keeping withe. The latest in regards to
- 32:17the allegations against vincick Man and John Lennoniitis, John Larniitis has come out and
- 32:22said that he is a victim in its entire thing, basically confirming that the
- 32:29allegations against vincik Man is true, turning on vincick Man in the process,
- 32:35and also came out earlier to On Wednesday, there was a report out there
- 32:39from Vice News that confirmed so. Back in twenty sixteen, former WE superstar
- 32:50and unfortunately no longer with US, Ashley Masso, winner of the Devissearch contest.
- 32:55In twenty sixteen, she alleged that she was drugged and assaulted by members
- 33:00of the US Armed Forces Journey W tour Kuwait, as well as abuse at
- 33:06the hands of former W chairman vincic Man. WW denied any knowledge of her
- 33:09claims. Fallen Masorrow's suicide in twenty nineteen, Vice reported that it was looked
- 33:16into by a naval internal investigations group. John Laronitis, attorney, commented on
- 33:25the story and said that WW executives in most upper level management knew about Ashley
- 33:30Massero's claim despite company denials of said knowledge. So this is starting to unravel.
- 33:37Either have been reports out there late as we go into recording this week's
- 33:42edition in the show, saying that the internal reaction to the publication of Vice
- 33:45Ashley Massaro story is armageddon. So you've got Larenidis turning on Vince saying he's
- 33:52a victim. You've got Larenidis confirming that W Upper management knew that one of
- 33:59their employee is one of their superstars, was allegedly sexually assaulted by members of
- 34:05the US Armed Forces. I think what it was said is that she was
- 34:07being treated for dehydration and a doctor came in, injected her with a paralyzing
- 34:14drug and sexually assaulted her while someone was at the door guarding it. I
- 34:20mean, just reprehensible and disgusting stuff that's being discussed here until I believe a
- 34:25W employee like knocked on the door, came in and like carried Ashton Massaro
- 34:30out of the room, is what I had read. I mean, this
- 34:32entire story continues to be just really really bad, and you hope it's not
- 34:39true, and if it is true, then everybody involved needs to pay for
- 34:45this entire thing, Doctor Trey. But the latest chapter in this all is
- 34:49that Laroniitis is turning his back on Vince or however you want to say this
- 34:52turning the tables on Vince. I guess I should say, because who cares
- 34:57if there's any type of loyalty really when it comes to these types of alleytions,
- 35:00and he is claiming a victim of this entire thing and confirming the allegations
- 35:04to be true. This is going to rock threat the WWE world, the
- 35:07professional wrestling world in twenty twenty four, Doctor Trey. Yeah, it's I
- 35:14mean, it wasn't shortly thereafter that they kind of stopped doing the in person
- 35:17visits for the troops also, they started doing the taped shows as well,
- 35:22So that was kind of when I heard this story, I was like,
- 35:24oh, that kind of all makes sense now, and it's heartbreaking. On
- 35:29some of that was because Ashley Massara was one of my favorite defense from that
- 35:32timeline, and you know, her whole world just kind of fell apart after
- 35:37that because it wasn't there much longer after that before she was released, and
- 35:40then everything else piled up, and it is it's utterly reprehensible, Like this
- 35:45is one of those things where like, you know, when you cover up
- 35:47stuff like this, that just shows that money and greed is more important than
- 35:54somebody's well being, in somebody's mental health, and that's not what anybody in
- 36:00any kind of corporate setting wants out there. This is what I didn't get
- 36:05a chance to bring this up last week. But one of the side stories
- 36:07of all this stuff with Vince is that, you know, there's a lot
- 36:09of people in w W there hoping that this allows Stephanie to come back,
- 36:14because she was really good for the company when Vince you know, stepped away
- 36:19and retired. That she was you know, her and Hunter are together brought
- 36:22a lot of good to w W, and it was it was ironic that
- 36:27right after Vince made his power play, Stephanie left again. So it's just,
- 36:31you know, and we've always heard these other stories, like you know,
- 36:36the the Eve Torres rumors, things like that that were all tied into
- 36:39all stuff. On one level, I'm hoping the damn breaks and everything comes
- 36:44out. And you know, if if even one of these stories about Vince
- 36:49is true and his legacy is ruined, God, I hope it's true.
- 36:53I mean, for if any of these things are true, that the man
- 36:58needs to be just completely just you know, erased from history books, so
- 37:02to speak, because they're just just evil, evil things. And for a
- 37:07lot of wrestling fans, and it's also true in like anything, like if
- 37:12you're a fan of the company or you're a fan of somebody, you kind
- 37:15of you almost don't want to know. But at this point, especially with
- 37:19ashabsorrow and knowing that this kind of what led to her, you know her
- 37:23her suicide is just something that you can't come back from and nor should you
- 37:29ever come back from it. So at this point, I just want like
- 37:32let all the dirty laundry out, just let it all out and then you
- 37:36know, try to rebuild from that. Yeah, the entire thing is just
- 37:40disgusting. And yeah, that's the latest update on the allegations. I mean,
- 37:46it is what it is at this point. And if they're all deemed
- 37:50to be true, hopefully every pays for all of their sins in this entire
- 37:54thing. Yes, I have to try. I don't know if you heard,
- 37:57did is John lordize a hymn and nick and bring his mom still together?
- 38:01I believe so? Yes, So they're they're working through all this stuff.
- 38:07So, like the I guess the quote unquote playing the victim card is
- 38:10working for John Laura and I, which I just I don't get all that
- 38:15stuff. Like it to me is like, I know, we don't know
- 38:20what's going on behind the scenes with his marriage honestly, right, yes,
- 38:23I know they released a statement the Belotwins, you know, not condoning its
- 38:30entire situation, So I can only imagine that behind the scenes, their personalizes
- 38:36is not in a good spot right now. Yeah, okay, I just
- 38:40I thought of that there day when I saw they put out a comment,
- 38:44but it was neither positive or negative towards their stepfather. So I was kind
- 38:51of curious as to if there had been a report coming out about that,
- 38:53because it's one of those weird situations where like, if your mom's staying with
- 38:57him, you have to love your mom and support him, but you also
- 39:00want to distance yourself from the company and also him. So it's it's a
- 39:05tight rope for them to walk as well, because right now they don't really
- 39:07have you know, they're they're back to using their real names. They're no
- 39:12longer the Bellotwins. They're not they're not able to use that branding. So
- 39:15for people like that for them, they have to kind of walk that weird
- 39:19line where they can support their mom but then distance themselves from their step on
- 39:22the Yeah. I mean, I think it's one of those situations where you
- 39:25know, when people that you love do discussing things, it's a very hard
- 39:32thing to wrap your head around. So I can only imagine what they're dealing
- 39:36with in their personal lives handling this. And we don't know what's going on
- 39:40with John Larniis and his wife who is the mother of Nicky and Bribella,
- 39:45and how they're all handling that. I can't imagine it's very happy times depending
- 39:52on how it's being discussed or what they what they say is the truth or
- 39:58what have you. So I I don't really want to like dig into what
- 40:01may be going on behind the scenes on stuff like that. Keeping with the
- 40:07same story here, Doctor Trey, it would appear that as of now,
- 40:10brock Lester's w W career may be over. And I think it's safe to
- 40:15say if all these allegations are true, it should be. But as it
- 40:19stands right now, do you think we have seen brock Lessner wrestle his last
- 40:23professional wrestling match period now? I still think this is one of these where
- 40:30they're hoping. I still think with the brock leasers, I mean, because
- 40:32the allegation is basically that you know, he had sex with somebody. Well,
- 40:37they're not saying that, they're saying that Vince had tried to Yes,
- 40:44it would be the way that it would be presented, would be trafficked to
- 40:47Brock lessener. But for me is that this is one of the things with
- 40:52with Brock's allegation is not as bad as the Vince stuff or even the Lord
- 40:57Knight of stuff two degrees. So it's like, all right, let's see
- 41:00how long this can before it blows over. Because I don't think there I
- 41:04don't I don't think the backlash against Brock is as severe as against the other
- 41:07one. So I would say, you know, especially with with I mean,
- 41:10I don't I've seen I'm sure you've seen the pictures of Brock's daughter,
- 41:14the high school wrestler and powerlifter or whatever like. I could see a scenario
- 41:17where Brock gets back in the ring to kind of set the stage if she
- 41:22goes down the wrestling path as well. I would say by next year's wrestle
- 41:27media will start hair rumors that Brock might be coming in for WrestleMania forty one.
- 41:30Interesting times when it comes to his career. I guess it's all kind
- 41:34of a backseat driver when it comes to all the allegations. But it would
- 41:39appear him wrestling at Wrestling If forty at least in the short term is not
- 41:43happening, which was supposed to be according to reports he and Gunther, which
- 41:47is something that both Doctor tran I predicted and definitely wanted to see in the
- 41:52wy ring. But if his involvement is is deemed true in this these allegations,
- 41:58and of course he should not return to the World entertainment. Shocking news
- 42:02on Wednesday, doctor Trey Scott de Moore is out of TNA Wrestling. He
- 42:06has been fired as the president of TNA Wrestling. They're gonna go with Anthony
- 42:09Sacone, who has no previous wrestling experience. This is such a and I
- 42:15guess this call was made by whoever runs Anthem Sports Entertainment. I mean,
- 42:19TNA has had so much good fortune in the last couple of years, and
- 42:22especially in the last month, people have been very high on TNA for the
- 42:25first time in a very long time, and that is due to the passion
- 42:29and drive and direction by Scott Demore. What an awful decision this is,
- 42:35I mean, like, what a morale killer, terrible decision by Anthem to
- 42:42fire Scott dea Moore as the president of TNA, guy who clearly loved those
- 42:45three letters and now an aw orwe should hopefully sign him right up, because
- 42:52Scott de Moore, from what I've seen everything that you read, is a
- 42:55fantastic wrestling executive in this lane escape that we cover. But what a shocking
- 43:01and dumb move today. Doctor Trey, Yeah, I saw that report and
- 43:06like literally I was like, this is the most puzzling thing I've seen happen.
- 43:10But I guess quote unquote behind the scenes in wrestling in quite a while,
- 43:15because I actually met Scott Tomore a couple of years ago at a show
- 43:19that I worked, and just a super nice guy, down to earth,
- 43:22like didn't matter if you were top of the car or on the car,
- 43:25just talk to everybody. But I mean he has reinvigorated TNA. I mean
- 43:30like for most folks, I don't think people new TENA Impact have even still
- 43:34been around a couple of years ago. It was just so I mean fourth
- 43:38tier like wrestling like glorified independent type stuff in a way, and you know,
- 43:45just you know, the word of mouth and people get over there talking
- 43:47about it, and the signings of Nick Nemo and you know those guys in
- 43:52Dana Brook and the Mustaphologies of the world like those were those are not easy
- 43:57signings to pull off. And you know it was a good you know,
- 44:00he was just had kind of things rolling a little bit so and to take
- 44:05out a guy who's reindiggering your product and who has not just a love for
- 44:08your company, but a love for professional wrestling and replacing it with a guy
- 44:10who was the head of some media stuff to run a wrestling company is just
- 44:16kind of mind boggling. And you know there are rumors like the stuff with
- 44:20Jordan Grace at the Rumble that was a triple Ah just gott the more deal
- 44:23and TNA had to deal with Peacock to started putting some T and A plus
- 44:28stuff on Peacock as well. So it is kind of puzzling. Maybe this
- 44:31Anthony Sacone is the one who maybe negotiated the Peacock thing, and that's where
- 44:36Anton wants to go and get more eyes on their product. They think he
- 44:39might be a better fit for meteor ites, But it's just always mind puzzling
- 44:45or mind boggling when you take a guy who's running your company that's a wrestling
- 44:49guy and you put somebody in charge who's not a wrestling guy. We go
- 44:52back and listening Eric Bishaw talking about the times that they put non wrestling guys
- 44:55in terms of w CW and see how well that worked out for them.
- 44:59Oh yeah, it basically killed the company. Every single time we have our
- 45:04first WRESTLEMANI forty card update. These are weekly things that we do heading into
- 45:08Wrestleman forty. So here's the first edition of it, Doctor Trey. We
- 45:12have one confirmed match which took place on Friday SmackDown. Eo Sky will defend
- 45:16the WE Women's Championship against Bailey who It nearly went the way I predicted Doctor
- 45:22Trey, that Bailey would overhear them in the locker room saying something and then
- 45:29would call them out on it. It nearly played the same way the Wrestlemanta
- 45:32twenty one angle happened with Batista turning on Triple H. Yeah, and you
- 45:37know you and I joked about on air and I was like, well,
- 45:39you're gonna go to the Triple eight. You're going to Batista raute, Okay,
- 45:42gotcha. But I did love the fact that she I was waiting for
- 45:45her to say. A friend of mine taught me Japanese and we called be
- 45:47like, oh, Sashia Banks every time in New Japan. Taught Bailey Japanese
- 45:51so she could hear there saying but she didn't throw that one in there.
- 45:53But yeah, the fact that Bailey learned Japanese to find out what everybody's saying
- 45:59was great. So uh and and I thought the spot was really well done,
- 46:04you know. And by the end of it, you're like, oh,
- 46:06no, I'm on board with Bailey and EO at WrestleMania, and I'm
- 46:09excited to see these goings. And then you still have the Dakota Kai Tai
- 46:13and does she stay does she stay with you know, damage Control or whatever
- 46:16they're going to call themselves now, or does she side with Bailey and all
- 46:20this? So it'll be interesting see how it plays out, because you always
- 46:23don't walk it the sides, even out between now and WrestleMania. So uh,
- 46:30you know, Kuo said they pulled it off. Bailey's a baby face,
- 46:32which I think She's like she was a fantastic heel, but uh,
- 46:37happy baby, you know, happy baby, non none hugger Bailey, but
- 46:40you know, an edgier Bailey is always good for wrestling as well. I
- 46:45will say that I think they did a good job of making her sympathetic the
- 46:50last couple of months, dating back to SERBS series Wargame, when they started
- 46:52really planning the seeds heading into that show and then really kind of upped it
- 46:55a little bit during that specific war Games match. I would have to see
- 47:00a little bit more growing sympathy for Bailey because she has been such a good
- 47:02heel over the last couple of years that I think it was a bit difficult
- 47:07for fans to get behind her. They quickly did so with the Rumble Win
- 47:09and felt that this wave was coming. And then I guess my question for
- 47:15you, doctor Trey is, which you know you briefly mentioned there, Do
- 47:17you go the hugger route with Bailey now as a babyface? No, I
- 47:22think you homage it. I think it restlmated the wacky waving flayble two bar
- 47:27bend come out. You know, because when she turned heel then where she
- 47:30slashed them all the pieces so she tapes them back up. Yeah, they
- 47:36have to say these ain duct tape on them, you know, covering it
- 47:38up to make it look like they got patched up and everything. So I
- 47:43think that'd be good. But you know, I don't think you have to
- 47:45go full Hugger Bailey, but somewhere in that ballpark, all right. And
- 47:52then some of the expected matches. Here, we've got two B determined world
- 47:55champion versus crote Roads for a world title, and then Ria Ripley will defend
- 48:00the WA Women's World Championship against the winner of the elimination chamer match in a
- 48:06couple of weeks in Perth, Australia. She'll also be taken on Naya Jacks
- 48:09and elimination chambers. So those are some of the expected semi confirmed matches,
- 48:15and I think that's basically how the card looks. I guess we could add
- 48:19Roman Reigns versus rock On here. I guess maybe we could be leaning into
- 48:25Gunther. I mean maybe like bron Breaker, Doctor Trey. I don't I
- 48:30don't know what other expected WRESTLEMANI forty matches we may see right now. Well,
- 48:35I mean, if you go off the reports that Braun took Brock's spot
- 48:40in the Rumble that you know could lean into maybe Braun taking Gunther spot at
- 48:46wrestle Mania. And if you want to establish, you know, an up
- 48:50and coming star and kind of put the rocket Ship on somebody, you know,
- 48:53it could be reminiscent of when the Warrior beat Honckey tonk Man for the
- 48:58inn Island the rocket Ship Warrior went on. You can kind of pull the
- 49:01same thing here if you put Broun Breaker in Gunther in a match and Braun
- 49:06gets the win, and then you get the rocket Ship strapped to him,
- 49:09much like the Warrior get back in you know, early nineties, ear late
- 49:13eighties, earlyies. And I could see a scenario there where actually bron Breaker
- 49:16dethrones gun Through actually to ride that wave. You know what, I'll throw
- 49:21out one more maybe expected match right now. I could really see Damian Priests
- 49:24and friend Valor defending the tag team titles against the mizz and Our Truth.
- 49:30Yeah, I can see that as well. You want to see both those
- 49:34guys get a win like a big stage way. I mean, MS has
- 49:37had his moments to wrestle me. It got He's been great at telling us
- 49:39about it. But do you want to get some kind of payoff to this
- 49:44because it's been kind of like this weird. I don't want to say it's
- 49:47under the radar because it's scorn the under but it's not a main event level.
- 49:51But it's been a very very fun mid card thing with the Truth,
- 49:54with Madonna, with Dom and Nick Mysterio, you know, the whole it's
- 50:00high in there, like if it's been fun, So you gotta get some
- 50:04kind of payoff. And if you happen to go and I kind of mentioned
- 50:07this earlier, maybe you don't do Cody and Seth. Maybe do Cody Seth,
- 50:12Drew and Sammy and then one of the people that's not Seth gets the
- 50:16wain and Damien pashes in on that person. So maybe that's a route you
- 50:21go as well to get the money the bank off, because he's only got
- 50:23two bucks window between now and the next money in the bank. Tis the
- 50:28season looking towards the rest of Maing forty, I mean it's less than what
- 50:31I see the other day, like sixty two days away, so like less
- 50:35than what eight eight weeks away, seven weeks away at this point, so
- 50:37it'll be here before you know it. So it is the very first resuming
- 50:42forty card update here on SRTU, and that's tends to be a weekly thing
- 50:45as we head into Wrestlem. A forty last thing here. Doctor Trey NXT
- 50:52Vengeance Day Recap interviewed this past Sunday from the F and M Bank Arena in
- 50:54Clarksville, Tennessee. Uh, kind of change it up here a little bit.
- 50:59I'm gonna go quickly through the results and get your thoughts on some of
- 51:04these matches rather than go match by match just on time. Say here for
- 51:08this week's dish of the podcast. So we had Baron Corbyn Brown Breaker defeating
- 51:12Carmela Hayes and Trick Williams in the men's Dusty Roads Tag Team Classic finals.
- 51:16Dijeck defeats Joey Joe Gacy in a notice qualification match. The Family defeats OTM
- 51:22and a six person mixed tag team match. Lyra Valcarie defeats Roxanne Perez and
- 51:27Lolavice, who cashed in her Women's Breakout Tournament contract to retain the NXC Women's
- 51:31Championship. Oprah Femi defeats Dragon Lead to retain the NXC North American Championship.
- 51:37Eliot Dragonoff defeats Trick Williams to retain the NXC Championship. Then, obviously,
- 51:40the big thing at the end of that match was Carmelo Hayes turning on Trick
- 51:45Williams to close the show. Both Doctor Trey and I went four and two
- 51:49on the night, Doctor Trey, what'd you think of NXC Vengeance Day?
- 51:53I thought it was a really really solid x T show. I actually had
- 51:57a higher ranked rating wise that I did Royal Rumble. I thought it was
- 52:00a really fun show, got some good storylines out of it. I didn't
- 52:06realize how much how much fun I have watching bron Break and Baron Corman work
- 52:08together. By the way, if Joe Gasey does not come back as Joey
- 52:12Gacy, like you just kind of, you know, accidentally mentioned that's a
- 52:15great name for a guy too, Like, uh see, Joey Gacy joined
- 52:20the family, you know, Joey g Yeah, Joey g how you doing.
- 52:24There's there's some legs with that character, by the way, Joe Gacy,
- 52:29Yeah, it's it's it's odd now that you know, I loved the
- 52:32the diad or how with the whole thing there with those guys and now you
- 52:37have a but the GM Gaysey's on his own, like he does feel like
- 52:40this like lost character is trying to find his way. But it's a really
- 52:44good character to kind of play with, so it's got some legs to do
- 52:47it. Larry Valkyrie the Rock Samperez match, I still don't want. This
- 52:51is The other weird booking thing of the weekend was if you're gonna do a
- 52:54cash in, why do it in the middle of the match unless you're seth
- 52:57rollins. Yeah, that was kind of especially there. Would you make it
- 53:02to the end of the match, you know? And but whatever? And
- 53:07Trick and Dragon Off was a fun, fun match. I did not like
- 53:13the finish with you know, Carmelo getting accidentally involved a couple of times but
- 53:16not squarely leading to the finish. But then I am happy to see Mellow
- 53:21turn on Trick Is. I think Mellow as a heel is better than Mellow
- 53:23as a face. Yeah, so it was. It was a It was
- 53:27a pretty decent show for Sunday and Night. I did enjoy it and I
- 53:31thought they did a good job. The NXT brand is is is solid.
- 53:37I think pay review prediction records coming out of the first two pay reviews of
- 53:40the year. I'm seven and three dotch Tray six and four U pay per
- 53:45view event rating and Match of the Night. I gave it a three point
- 53:49six out of five, and I gave Eli Dragonoff and Trick Williams my match
- 53:52of the night. I gave it a three point nine. I enjoy it
- 53:55slightly more than the Rumble, uh, and then I gave it the Trick
- 53:59and ill up, I saw something puzzle Twitter and I think I've been saying
- 54:01this Trick is the next Booker T. Like there's so many similarities to their
- 54:07styles and their builds and everything else like that. I just think I think
- 54:09Trick's more athletic than Booker was at this point, but book right a little
- 54:12more charisma. But that's not a knock on Trick because he's obviously I mean
- 54:16WI that Trick is one of the best chance across wrestling right now. So
- 54:21he just reminds me so much of a really, really young Booker T right
- 54:23now. Yeah, it was a very fun time for NXT. It was.
- 54:28I felt at points the show dragged a little bit, but the matches
- 54:30were very solid. I NXT is a very solid show, and I'm happy
- 54:37with the growth that they've done as a brand over the last couple of years,
- 54:40because you do get to see some stars really start to break out,
- 54:44like Joe Gacy, like Oba Feme, like Braun and Baron Corbin naturally getting
- 54:47together in Carmelo, and Trick being one of the hottest feuds in all of
- 54:52w right now, Trick being one of the most breakout stars in all of
- 54:54the right now. So there you go. That is our NXT evenge just
- 54:59a very quick recap interview. Would that say, let's get a couple of
- 55:02plugs and sponsor out of the way. You can down the show every Thursday
- 55:05or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com, wrestle chat Net on X and
- 55:07still wrote the show iTunes feed, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe
- 55:12to help us come the charts on iTunes. You get to follow follow us
- 55:15individually on X for myself at sr TU Jeff and for douct Tray frankl the
- 55:17d Doctor Trey and of course don't forget to follow a show on X at
- 55:21SRTU podcast. With that being said, was going on the Wonderful World of
- 55:24doct Tray Franklin this week. Well, like Jeff said, You can follow
- 55:28me on x at the Doctor Tray. You can find me on Instagram and
- 55:30Facebook, Doctor Dray Franklin. When you're on Facebook, check out Rocket h
- 55:34Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championshire Wrestling, the two shows here in Alabama. I
- 55:37work closely with UH. They just had a big show this past Saturday.
- 55:40The next one's coming up on the seventeenth, so be sure to be able
- 55:45to look up for those, but more importantly, just go out to your
- 55:47local shows. Check them out. You might wind up in Clarksical, Tennessee
- 55:52and XT taping and not realize it. So there you go, folks.
- 55:54There you go support all the great things that support sr T you and and
- 56:00this is a fun time of the year. I mean, we spent a
- 56:01good half hour trying to figure out what the hell we is doing right now
- 56:05with the rock and Coded Roads. It has people's eyeballs on the product and
- 56:09that is a good thing. Ultimately, I think Raw was one of the
- 56:14highest rated shows. I think it tied a very popular show in the Bachelor.
- 56:17I know my wife loves The Bachelor on Monday night, so it's kind
- 56:22of doing its thing. Now. We'll see with the execution. So it's
- 56:25gonna be very interesting week and I'm very excited to intrigue to see where things
- 56:30go from here this upcoming week and what we talk about on next week's podcast
- 56:35in regard to everything that is WrestleMania forty. So with that said, for
- 56:39doctor Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff pank Thank you for downloading, thank you for
- 56:44being part of the podcast, Thank you for making this part of your week
- 56:45until next week. This is this is still a real US show.