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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Ace Bailey's career scoring night, March Madness + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk. Stay
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  Speaker 1: for his list of the day My list today.
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  Speaker 2: Here's oc with basketball stab on Gordy Chiasa on the
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Manad, Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell show. Welcome in
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  Speaker 3: our resident NBA Guru, Gordy Chiaso.
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  Speaker 1: Grdy, I've missed it being gone for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I am doing fine and welcome back to state side.
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  Speaker 1: That's always great to be home.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little Utah Jazz basketball, shall We won
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  Speaker 3: forty three one seven lost last night to the Toronto Raptors.
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  Speaker 3: Ace Bailey seven points on twenty one shots, seven of
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  Speaker 3: ten from beyond the arc, eight of eight from the
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  Speaker 3: free throw line. Ace Bailey with a beautiful game here, Gordy,
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  Speaker 3: what would you like best about it?
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  Speaker 4: Most of all, No turner was last night in thirty
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  Speaker 4: five minutes, so he's very efficient and in all the
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  Speaker 4: guys being out as far as injuries, is that he
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  Speaker 4: was the first option during the game for the Jets
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  Speaker 4: and he delivered. And so we're seeing right in front
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  Speaker 4: of us a young, talented player emerging as really a
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  Speaker 4: winning player. As the Jets get all their players back
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  Speaker 4: for next season, he'll be part of the mix and
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  Speaker 4: he will play well for them. In the meantime, he's
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  Speaker 4: showcasing his abilities. So last night this was the third
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  Speaker 4: straight twenty five point plus game for ace Bley. So
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  Speaker 4: now he's the fifth youngest player in NBA history with
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  Speaker 4: three straight twenty five point games in a row. The
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  Speaker 4: other younger guys were Lebron James Cooper, Flagg, Caamelo Anthony,
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  Speaker 4: and Deva Devin Booker. So he's an elite company as
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  Speaker 4: far as being a young guy and showing his abilities
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  Speaker 4: both scoring and also all around play.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like seeing him in that number one role?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, in an ideal world you don't
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  Speaker 3: want a rookie to have to fill that. On a
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  Speaker 3: winning team, a rookie doesn't have to fill that role.
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  Speaker 1: But when you.
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  Speaker 3: See that, you know he can rise to the occasion.
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  Speaker 3: What does it tell you about him in his future?
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  Speaker 4: It's trute is that it's absolutely very bright and he
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  Speaker 4: has all star potential and that so next year's team
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  Speaker 4: just say, listen, imagine that the first option should be
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  Speaker 4: Larry Marketen because of his skill set, his length, his
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  Speaker 4: knockdown shooting, your ability. I think it's interesting. Is it
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  Speaker 4: Ace Bailey is it? Can't George is it? Or is
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  Speaker 4: it Jaron Jackson Junior? So we're going to find out.
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  Speaker 4: So all three of those guys are capable. So it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be one, two, three, four, but we don't know
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  Speaker 4: the order yet as far as one team chemistry, two
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  Speaker 4: as far as play calling, and three. So it emerges
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  Speaker 4: from that group that is definitely going to be the
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  Speaker 4: second or third scorer. Now, Larry Marketing, he has a
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  Speaker 4: dominant game shown without a dominant personality. So now it
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  Speaker 4: gets interesting, Well, well can't they George has matured some,
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  Speaker 4: He's his personality on the court should be fiery because
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  Speaker 4: they need him. As far as being a elite, elite guard,
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  Speaker 4: I'll call him not a point guard, but a guard.
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  Speaker 4: And Ace Belly has major talent. And then Jaron Jackson
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  Speaker 4: is a new kid in the block. He only played
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  Speaker 4: three games in the Jazz this past season. Yes, he's Yes,
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  Speaker 4: he's a really tremendous talented player, defensive minded with an
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  Speaker 4: outside shot also and he can score the ball. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what we call chemistry. We're going to find out
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  Speaker 4: next season.
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  Speaker 3: When you talk about that dominant personality, how important is
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  Speaker 3: it to have on a team from a locker room
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  Speaker 3: and a chemistry standpoint, and how important is it that
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  Speaker 3: the dominant personality matches up with the dominant on floor ability.
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  Speaker 4: Huge, that's a step right there. Statement was absolutely right
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  Speaker 4: on point is that that personality has to be also
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  Speaker 4: inclusive of all the guys where he gets everybody involved
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  Speaker 4: in as far as with the teammates. So the question
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  Speaker 4: has always says, how can I showcase my tremendous individual
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  Speaker 4: talent within a team game? And when they do it,
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  Speaker 4: can I get also guys involved with my with my
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  Speaker 4: all around play? And that's what those teams that make
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, most of those most of those performers on
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  Speaker 4: those those elite teams, they have that quote. It's factory
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  Speaker 4: factor is something that you combine your own unbelievable talents
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  Speaker 4: with also team play. But in French time, you emerge
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  Speaker 4: as the clutch, the clutch player that you are to
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  Speaker 4: help a team win down the stretch and playoff games.
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  Speaker 4: So it's absolutely huge, and my instincts tell me it's
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be Keane George.
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  Speaker 1: You think can grow into that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I do, I do, yes, because he has the ball. Also,
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  Speaker 4: it's much easier when you have the ball in your hands.
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  Speaker 4: So when the guy is a gud again a guard,
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  Speaker 4: he has the he has the ball off into the
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  Speaker 4: game to make that transition of who gets the ball
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  Speaker 4: when and why. And that's why it's so important that
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  Speaker 4: that whoever plays God for the Jazz that the one
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  Speaker 4: they can score the ball. But too there also they're
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  Speaker 4: somewhat past happy during the game to get their other
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  Speaker 4: talented teammates involved in the flow, in the rhythm of
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  Speaker 4: the game. It's really fascinating, Sean, it really is. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: so in the NFL, be right to start running back?
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  Speaker 4: Does he blocking coverage sometimes? Right, there's a quarterback that
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  Speaker 4: he try to look for other receivers some of the
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  Speaker 4: time to get them more involved in as far as
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  Speaker 4: running their routes against some of the time, not all
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  Speaker 4: the times. As always, when you're a NFL quarterback, you
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  Speaker 4: go to guy, trusted guy, you go to almost all
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  Speaker 4: the time, but in the meantime when it's not, they
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  Speaker 4: flow the game other guys involved.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a couple of weeks. What teams have impressed
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  Speaker 3: you most in the last two weeks? What teams are
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  Speaker 3: you most worried about? Given the state of the season
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  Speaker 3: we're in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm worried about the Wizards tomorrow night. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow night, the Jazz play the Wizards tomorrow night. The
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  Speaker 4: Wizards have lost sixteen straight games. Sure picture being in
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  Speaker 4: the locker room, or in the team bus or above
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  Speaker 4: sea level thirty five thousand feet. So I'm worried about
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  Speaker 4: the Wizards coming here to Salt Lake City losing sixteen
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  Speaker 4: straight games. Now, the upbeat about it is that the
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  Speaker 4: thunder have played great. They've won twelve in a row,
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  Speaker 4: and dispos have won six in a row. And then
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  Speaker 4: Nicobacks don't count them out yet they've won six in
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  Speaker 4: a row. And so the better teams are emerging. They
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  Speaker 4: know it's the finish line is very short, and they
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  Speaker 4: are playing like their contenders right now. And then the
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  Speaker 4: Pistons are playing without Kate Cunningham and they perform though
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  Speaker 4: they've been hung in there and They're still in first
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  Speaker 4: place in the West. They're trying to hold off the
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  Speaker 4: Celts and hold off the Knicks, and then it's Tom
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  Speaker 4: in the east part of me in the West, the
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  Speaker 4: Thunder and the Spurs and the Lakers also the Lakers.
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  Speaker 4: Looks a tough game last night, but generally speaking, the
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  Speaker 4: Lakers are the third seed right now, and they're heading
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  Speaker 4: to a second straight fifty plus win win season. With
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  Speaker 4: Lebron being definitely now the Waight's played out, Lebron is
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  Speaker 4: now the third option. I've never thought I'd say that
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  Speaker 4: in my life the Lebron be the third option. But
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  Speaker 4: right now we is behind Luca and behind the Austin Reefs.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever think Austin Reeves was going to be
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  Speaker 1: this guy in the.
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  Speaker 4: NBA no undrafted back in twenty sixteen. That just shows
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  Speaker 4: you that all the experts, that's what sometimes they're not experts,
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  Speaker 4: and that he was undirected from Wichita States can't you
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  Speaker 4: can't rationally. He went to a small college, which to
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  Speaker 4: State is a major university, and so but he's he
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  Speaker 4: was in a glee with with all the players in
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  Speaker 4: that league. He worked himself up into making a team
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  Speaker 4: and now he's going to get and also he's going
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  Speaker 4: to opt out of his contract and he'll be a
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  Speaker 4: huge factor as far as getting a maker type contract.
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  Speaker 4: But he's responded is that he can shoot the ball,
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  Speaker 4: he can score the ball, but also he knows how
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  Speaker 4: to play without the ball, and again he just doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have a dominant personality. He does not, and so he's
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  Speaker 4: getting twenty five plus points per game within the flow
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  Speaker 4: of the game, and that allows Luca, who's a dominant personality,
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  Speaker 4: to have the ball often and Lebron, to his credit
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  Speaker 4: at age forty one, he is absolutely not. He slightly
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  Speaker 4: stepped aside to let the other guys play at an
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  Speaker 4: elite level and he's their trusted sidekick. To say the least.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy March Madness happening right now. I know you love it.
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  Speaker 3: How much do NBA teams dial and watch, Because obviously
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  Speaker 3: they got their own games, they've got their practices and
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  Speaker 3: the shoot arounds going on.
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  Speaker 1: They're gearing up for playoff runs.
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  Speaker 3: But their personnel departments have to be paying attention to
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  Speaker 3: the big time performers of March Madness. When you're in
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  Speaker 3: an NBA office or you're in the locker room, in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA is what is the place of march madness
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  Speaker 3: in your basketball world?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you're a coach, you heard it. You hear
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  Speaker 4: about it in the locker room. Who's playing who, But
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  Speaker 4: you have no idea about some of the players because
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  Speaker 4: you're focused. If you're the thunder right now, you're focused
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  Speaker 4: on their team. If you're the Golden State Warriors, you're
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  Speaker 4: biting fighting Klawn without Steph Curry. You're fighting to try
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  Speaker 4: to get to the ninth or eighth seed. And so
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  Speaker 4: from a Kochie standpoint, you don't the players know who
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  Speaker 4: the young fellows are of their upper rising guys because
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  Speaker 4: they heard about them they're in high school and their
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  Speaker 4: first year or second year in college. And there's also
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  Speaker 4: the natural bantering about, hey, my school just rocked your
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  Speaker 4: school out of the NCAA tournament, or we're going to
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  Speaker 4: if we went to our game, we're going to play
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  Speaker 4: your game. And by the way, whatever your chump university,
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  Speaker 4: how are you guys going to make the NCAA tournament.
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  Speaker 4: So it's actually on the bus and on the plane,
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  Speaker 4: is that, let's say, bantering among the players about their
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  Speaker 4: Alma mada or almost Alma mada. You know, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times. These guys they go to school now with
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  Speaker 4: this NL money situation is that they only go to
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  Speaker 4: university for one year, so they're really part of it,
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  Speaker 4: but not part of the tradition of it, but not
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  Speaker 4: being there for what minimum will say three years or so.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, we spent a little time on this yesterday in
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  Speaker 3: the what I missed while I was away category of
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  Speaker 3: the show.
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  Speaker 4: Missed you first, that we all we all missed you.
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  Speaker 4: We did, we missed your spirit.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: While I was gone, Bam out of AO scored eighty
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  Speaker 3: three points and I wanted to get your thoughts on it,
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  Speaker 3: because you know.
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  Speaker 4: It's grateful. My thought, I mean, don't even don't even
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  Speaker 4: go any further. It's disgraceful. It is absolutely the words
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  Speaker 4: at first, it's the words has played them and so
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  Speaker 4: come on not when I saw that, and BAM's not
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  Speaker 4: even a scorer. I know Bam. When Bam made the
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  Speaker 4: Olympic team, he was a defensive player back but left
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  Speaker 4: to Olympics, so they didn't take him for our national
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  Speaker 4: team to score. Now and the heat's a different situation,
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  Speaker 4: I get it. Tyler Harrow is there is there is
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  Speaker 4: their main guy so BAM's scoring eighty three is really unorthodox,
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  Speaker 4: but it's how he did it, and I know, and
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  Speaker 4: I was. I was shocked that kept him in the game,
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  Speaker 4: showing I really was because I liked I like the heat,
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  Speaker 4: I like Eric Sposhrom, I like Pat Rally. I respect
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  Speaker 4: those guys. They played the win, but I would have
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  Speaker 4: took him out.
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  Speaker 3: Getting that many at the stripe. Does it take away
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  Speaker 3: from the mark?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, yes, yeah, that absolutely yes, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we know that, and you know that, and the fans
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  Speaker 4: are no basketball know that, and so in the history
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  Speaker 4: books it won't say that though, just say that the
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  Speaker 4: foul shots. People are going to say twenty five years
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  Speaker 4: from now, it must have got fouled like going to
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  Speaker 4: the basket. No, they foiled them all the time, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just to try to put them on the line, and
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  Speaker 4: they did it, and they made it a force of
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  Speaker 4: the game. Remember when Will scored one hundred points in
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  Speaker 4: the game, Will shot twenty for thirty two, And it
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  Speaker 4: was very similar. Also that they were fouling on purpose,
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  Speaker 4: but work couldn't make foul shots. Them can make foul shots.
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  Speaker 4: So that was even more dramatic. It was really I
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  Speaker 4: was saddened by the whole thing, even though I'm glad
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  Speaker 4: for him personally. From the NBA purist somewhat, I was
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  Speaker 4: against what they did the heat.
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  Speaker 3: Gordon, you and I are both big Victor web Minyama fans,
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  Speaker 3: and he he has talked about his desire to be
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  Speaker 3: the MVP, to be considered the MVP.
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  Speaker 1: Things he's playing at the MVP level.
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  Speaker 3: Just his competitiveness, I think is going to carry this
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  Speaker 3: first team a very long way. And we know the
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  Speaker 3: rules about participation in missing games and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: But Victor Webbinyama as an MVP from a just a
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  Speaker 3: pure contribution standpoint, is he the best player.
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  Speaker 1: In the league?
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  Speaker 4: Not yet? No, I know it's blessed me saying that
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  Speaker 4: I get it. And for listeners right now, showings alluding
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  Speaker 4: to you have to play sixty five games to be
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  Speaker 4: eligible for to be in an MVP candidate or all
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  Speaker 4: the other awards or making all NBA, No, he qualifies
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  Speaker 4: for that. He's under that, he's over that as far
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  Speaker 4: as games played. I have him third right now. So
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  Speaker 4: again hit my list to Ryce Maxi from the Sixers, eighth,
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards of the Timbrelves seventh, Jalen Brown of the
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  Speaker 4: celt six, Luca Dantage of the Lakers, five, Kate Cunningham
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  Speaker 4: of the Pistons four, Victor Mbiamba of the Spurs three,
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  Speaker 4: Nikolai Jokic of the Devera Nuggets two and Chiles Alexander
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  Speaker 4: of the thunder one having.
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  Speaker 3: Three right now, that's a bit of a list there.
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  Speaker 3: But what is your official list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 4: So my list today? Okay? Okay? Based on based on
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  Speaker 4: last night's game against the against the Raptors. My list
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  Speaker 4: today is the annual list showan of the active Canadian
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  Speaker 4: players in the NBA Canadian players. There's twenty two players
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA from Canada on the list. Here we
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  Speaker 4: go Atlanta Hawks, the kel Walker, Elgan in the w Walker,
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  Speaker 4: Caleb Houston from the Chicago Leonard Miller from Dallas, Bryan
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  Speaker 4: Nemhart and Dwight Powell from the Devon Nuggets, Jamorrow Murray
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  Speaker 4: from Indiana, Paceis, Andrew Nemhart from the LA Clippers, Benedict
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  Speaker 4: Mathern from the Memphis Grizzlies, Brandon Clark, Zach Edy and
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  Speaker 4: oll Max Prosper from the Mammy Heat. Andrew Wiggins from
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  Speaker 4: the OKC Thunder just mention a go Shay Jillis, Alexander
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  Speaker 4: and Loud Dort who's also undrafted, shauns who has the
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  Speaker 4: reference point with him and Austin Reeves from the Phoenix Suns,
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  Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks from the Portland Transladies, Shaydon Sharp from the
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  Speaker 4: San Antonio Spurs, Emmanuel Miller and former Jazz men. One
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  Speaker 4: of our favorites Kelly o'lennock from the Toronto Raptors who
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  Speaker 4: played last night who rocked the Jazz unfortunately, RJ Barrett
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  Speaker 4: and AJ Lawson and the last team the Jazz played
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow night from the Washington Wizards, Kyshawn George and Will Riley.
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  Speaker 4: So thus ma's my list today of the twenty two
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  Speaker 4: players this quickly the greatest Canadian player of all time
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  Speaker 4: was Steve Nash. He was two times NBA MVP back
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  Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, in two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Fame inductee. And the last point
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  Speaker 4: about this is this, Yes, Sean the inventor of basketball
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  Speaker 4: was not an American. It was a Canadian. James Nasmith
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  Speaker 4: invented a game of basketball back in eighteen ninety one. Yes, Sean,
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  Speaker 4: I was not born yet, in case you were wondering
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  Speaker 4: at Springfield, Massachusetts at the YMCA. I love that with
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  Speaker 4: the original thirteen playing rules and the rules are still
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  Speaker 4: the same. It's the most amazing thing. So instead of
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  Speaker 4: peach baskets we have ironed rims, but it's the original
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  Speaker 4: thirteen game. Rules of playing is the same, relatively same,
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  Speaker 4: so it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: He was thirty years old when he invented a game
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  Speaker 3: that became a worldwide phenomenon.
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  Speaker 1: That's a heck of a lega see to live by.
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  Speaker 4: It is also really and I love it as the
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  Speaker 4: y m c A and for the yamc A. That's
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  Speaker 4: everybody's recycling a famous song in every arena. You know, Sean,
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  Speaker 4: I've seen you rock Sean doing the ymc A. Explunning
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  Speaker 4: events to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been guilty of that in the past. Gordie,
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  Speaker 3: always great to talk to you.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks man, Thanks Sean, say well, peace out.