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The North Remembers · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talked.
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  Speaker 1: Moday.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Svan, Hey girl, how's it going. How's your weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's me Tampion. I love y'all. I miss y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Thank y'all for coming back. I forgot.
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  Speaker 1: I had a good weekend. I actually did some ship
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. My one of my best friends had her
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  Speaker 1: bridal shower on Saturday, so we did that and played games,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I gotta always entertain.
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  Speaker 2: He brought your carryok stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna bring my mic before the actual
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  Speaker 1: fucking wedding already seen. I'm gonna order me some new shit. Bitch,
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  Speaker 1: my mic gonna have like a little uh a little ways.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: It's gonna have a separate speaker from the micirl walking
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  Speaker 1: karaoke machine exactly because y'all niggas gonna hear me. And
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  Speaker 1: went back to the house and drinking, eating, talking loud
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  Speaker 1: and cussing all night. So it was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I prefer house shit. That's probably why I'm be doing nothing,
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  Speaker 1: because people don't be planning shit, and yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: be planning it at my house either. But I really
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  Speaker 1: prefer just to be around friends, family. Yeah, exactly as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to clubs and bars and lounges because I don't
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  Speaker 1: even be drinking like that either.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's I drank. I probably need a new kidney
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  Speaker 2: and living at this point the way. Okay, I'm joking. Lord,
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  Speaker 2: that was a joke. But this weekend, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I was outside, bitch, I was outside. Poor Minds came
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  Speaker 2: to Charlotte, so I went to the show. It was
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  Speaker 2: so good. If they're coming to your city, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: go check them out. It was a whole lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: I got toe up at the show, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: started it because I was like, I'm gonna just go
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  Speaker 2: to the show, support my podcast sisters, and come home.
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  Speaker 1: Baby.
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  Speaker 2: I got so drunk at they show. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: we're two next, and I was like all over the city,
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  Speaker 2: all over, and I had on sneakers. Ain't nothing better
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  Speaker 2: than being in some flat shoes. I can be out
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  Speaker 2: all night, yes, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Don't give that's why niggas be out all night. We
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  Speaker 1: be ready to go home because I'll be talking leave
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  Speaker 1: it out foot at the club, like already in the
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  Speaker 1: uber and foot still at the club. It is so
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  Speaker 1: like for real, man, I have definitely for comfort nowadays
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: because you damn designer heels comfortable all them shit gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell your feet up like you doing it for what?
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  Speaker 1: Like specially what that's it?
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  Speaker 2: So that was Sunday night. But Saturday night I got
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  Speaker 2: lit too at this place called Partake around the corner
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  Speaker 2: and it's a cute little dessert bar and like Kimberly
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  Speaker 2: she's on the reality show with me, she's the owner
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  Speaker 2: and she's like, come to the bar, and the way
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  Speaker 2: she pours the drinks, it makes you think they're free,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not.
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  Speaker 1: But you had to pay for it. Yeah, there was
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  Speaker 1: a tab at the end of the night. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shit, Vaness girl, you offering drinks. She's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: pay for her She well, listen, I end up not
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  Speaker 1: having to pay.
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  Speaker 2: A man ended up paying for him. He took care
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  Speaker 2: of my hotel. But thank god, because I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: there was a tab.
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  Speaker 1: Just drinking, yeah, just drinking.
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  Speaker 2: So on Monday, you know, because I'm an auntie, I
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  Speaker 2: was hurt, like our body is just not at this age.
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  Speaker 2: Our bodies are not meant to like drink that heavy
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  Speaker 2: two days.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know how y'all do it. I do
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  Speaker 1: not understand, Like how y'all body set up.
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  Speaker 2: I was hurt all day Monday. All day I stayed
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  Speaker 2: in bed and I watched Nemesis. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: y'all have seen it is so good.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm getting mixed reviews because one of my homeboys
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  Speaker 1: keeps telling me to watch it, right. But then I
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  Speaker 1: asked two other people about it, and they just was like,
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  Speaker 1: it just wasn't good.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Now, there was some parts that were
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  Speaker 2: a bit far fetched, but for you know, just for
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  Speaker 2: the sake of entertainment, it was good. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: My mama hated it. My mama was like that light
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  Speaker 2: skinned boy overacting?
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  Speaker 1: Yo, black people, are you overacting? How you overacting everything?
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what she mean, but hey, act normal nigga, right.
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  Speaker 1: But what is the premise of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically a story about two men who are pretty
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  Speaker 2: much obsessed with their career, but one is a cop,
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  Speaker 2: one is a criminal. In their lives, how their lives
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  Speaker 2: kind of intertwined in.
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  Speaker 1: A way, you know, to me, like cops and criminals
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  Speaker 1: are actually the same people, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's what that story is about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, only say like the way the way cops catch
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  Speaker 1: peoples because they too are also criminals, right, this is
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  Speaker 1: how they're able to catch you niggas. And then y'all
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  Speaker 1: be thinking, y'all all smart. These people are also criminals,
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  Speaker 1: most of them, they just on the other side. That's
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  Speaker 1: literally what the story is about, crime and peace.
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  Speaker 2: Like, are you sure you haven't seen it, because that's
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  Speaker 2: literally what the show is about.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, I might watch it. So, yeah, time have
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  Speaker 1: you been watching? Have you ever watched from the show?
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  Speaker 2: I watched the first season. I haven't seen it since then.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody like go back and binge it.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't even realize. I watched season one and two,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't even realize that season three had come
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  Speaker 1: out until season four came out. I'm like starting to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I'm missing something.
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  Speaker 2: I missed a whole season.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I started binge watching season three, but episode eight,
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  Speaker 1: season three the week before last. I'm watching it and
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  Speaker 1: the electric they was about to go look for this
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  Speaker 1: girl on one part, like just this is like a
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a climax moment and the electricity went
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  Speaker 1: out only in my bedroom. I look out the window.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else's lcen. Shit is still did y'all know this movie?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that that's that's serious? Isn't scary as evil as fuck? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And I looked down my hallway the lights on in
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  Speaker 1: my hallway like my little plugins and shit, how do what?
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  Speaker 1: My projector just cuts off? So I'm like, okay, So
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  Speaker 1: now the universe don't want me watching this shit. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that wants something my psyche and I have not went
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  Speaker 1: back to watch it, yea.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I was watching it was like
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  Speaker 2: it was storming outside and I was watching it, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like the part where that motherfucker jumped out
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  Speaker 2: the casket and all the power went out in the house. Baby,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't never been so scared in my life. I just.
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  Speaker 1: I've been. I don't know why. I like watching scary
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  Speaker 1: ship like I enjoyed it being scared sometimes I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. And it's not like in my real life,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't give a fuck by nagghos, like just
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  Speaker 1: don't touch me, like y'all can float around or just
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  Speaker 1: don't don't be pulling covers off the slow and ship
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  Speaker 1: and wiggle tools like I'm scared if you touch my feet,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know, Like but some things like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's that series from I believe, like if you didn't
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  Speaker 1: finish season two, you don't really know what's going on yet.
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  Speaker 1: And even then, because I've spoken the people who've watched
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  Speaker 1: through season two and they just didn't have the same
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  Speaker 1: idea about what was happening that I did. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: they're like stuck in purgatory. That's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: They like in the hospital bed and they're stuck in purgatory,
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  Speaker 1: all of these people because they all got into some
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  Speaker 1: type of accident and ended up there.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't think they're really there. You think their
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  Speaker 2: bodies are somewhere else, but they sold.
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  Speaker 1: So if you watched the last episode of season two
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  Speaker 1: and in the first episode of season three, it basically
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  Speaker 1: confirms them.
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  Speaker 2: Well don't tell yeah, don't tell me spoiler spoiler alert.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: You let's get into sins, y'all. So apparently, a Georgia
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  Speaker 1: man was arrested after letting ten pigs loose inside the
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  Speaker 1: local police station. He claims he was just dropping off
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  Speaker 1: back up. So Mississippi man is making headlines after police
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  Speaker 1: say he released ten pigs into local police station and
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  Speaker 1: allegedly joked that he was just dropping off backup. Authorities
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  Speaker 1: are not authorities are not laughing, I was about to say,
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  Speaker 1: now laughing. Officers say the stunt created chaos inside the
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  Speaker 1: building as staff scrambled to round up the animals and
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  Speaker 1: restore order. The man was later taken into custody and
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  Speaker 1: now faces charges connected to the incident. Reports indicate investigators
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  Speaker 1: view the act as intentional disruption rather than harmless comedy.
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  Speaker 1: The story exploded online almost immediately because of the obvious
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  Speaker 1: joke comparing police officers to pigs. Social media users were split.
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  Speaker 1: Some called it one of the wildest pranings they have
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  Speaker 1: ever seen, while others agree that disrupting a police facility
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  Speaker 1: is a fast way to take a fast way to
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  Speaker 1: turn a joke into a criminal case. Either way, what
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  Speaker 1: started as a stunt involving farm animals quickly became a
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  Speaker 1: l a viral national headline. One thing is for certain.
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  Speaker 1: Most people have I've heard of calling for backup, but
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  Speaker 1: very few haven't have allegedly delivered by the truckload. Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I mean it's funny, But that's dinner.
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  Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, you wasted a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Pigs are so cute, y'all shouldn't need them.
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  Speaker 2: Pigs are not cute. They're lunch. Put them on top
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  Speaker 2: of my burger.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that little girl she said.
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  Speaker 2: To put cheese on wine.
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  Speaker 1: Fags about it?
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, you got a lot of time to
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  Speaker 2: go get ten pigs and then release them in the
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  Speaker 2: police station. But what they gonna charge in with him.
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  Speaker 1: This swordland conduct, yeah, and disrupting police official police business probably,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't so they So the illustration for that
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  Speaker 1: for that article is a black guy on it, right,
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  Speaker 1: But we already half of these ship I've seen some
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  Speaker 1: shit the other day and it had a black family
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  Speaker 1: and it was a Korean family that our Indian family
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  Speaker 1: that the shit had happened to. So the way in
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  Speaker 1: which people using AI now to like confuse people about stories,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's no nigga playing with the
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  Speaker 1: police like that. I really feel like it was a
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  Speaker 1: white man let those pigs loose, but they were a
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  Speaker 1: black man in the picture, right or is it even real?
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  Speaker 1: We don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: She might be allied altogether. Yeah, but it's fucking funny. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Let me slide this in right quick, because I just
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  Speaker 1: happened to see this. So there's a line in one
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: of the Drake's songs that says, your baby mama, let
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: me record her. She getting bodied by Trump supporter.
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  Speaker 2: Is Draca Trumper?
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Why would need he'd be. I'm pretty sure his most
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: of his family is from Israel.
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  Speaker 2: He can't. He can't fucking vote, so it don't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Staying policy, stay out our business. I guess that might
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  Speaker 2: be an American politics job, right, all right, So this
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  Speaker 2: one says men are more likely to be gold diggers
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  Speaker 2: than women. A new study stad I agree, you always
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  Speaker 2: say that, so hold on, let's see it, says A
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  Speaker 2: new study published in the Journal of Economic Behavior and
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  Speaker 2: Organization from the Behavioral and Social Sciences Institute challenges the
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  Speaker 2: long standing stereotype that gold digging is a female behavior,
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  Speaker 2: finding that men may be just as likely or in
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  Speaker 2: some cases, more likely than women, to enter partnership for
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  Speaker 2: financial gain. Researchers led by psychologists Leonard Frez found that
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  Speaker 2: non heterosexual left leaning men recorded the highest score for
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  Speaker 2: financially motivated relationship behavior across all groups. So a gay men.
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  Speaker 2: The study survey three hundred and fifty one participants and
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  Speaker 2: found that financially motivated individal jewels across genders were more
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  Speaker 2: likely to exhibit manipulative tendencies using charm and physical appearance
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  Speaker 2: to track wealthier partners, but links to dark tetric personality
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  Speaker 2: traits including narcissism, macavelianism, psycho psychopathy, and sadism. Damn. What's
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  Speaker 2: particularly is telling is how the manipulation evolves. Researchers identify
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  Speaker 2: a grown trend that they termed the sensitive gold digger,
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  Speaker 2: where some men enhance their appeal by presenting themselves as
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  Speaker 2: empathetic and emotionally intelligent, which can mask underlying financial motives. Damn.
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  Speaker 2: These niggas is different.
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  Speaker 1: What it says the narrative Kanye and Jamie Foxx outline
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and five is only half the story.
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  Speaker 1: The data shows that the pursuit of wealth and relationships
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  Speaker 1: has never been exclusively female, and modern men have simply
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  Speaker 1: become more strategic about how they present themselves while doing it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you meet a nigg and his birthday tomorrow. My
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  Speaker 1: acts used to joke about how he need a bitch
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  Speaker 1: in his birthday always tomorrow, like he's trying to get
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  Speaker 1: something out of a woman. I never thought that was
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  Speaker 1: funny because this nigga would Robert Bank to take care
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  Speaker 1: of me. But I know for a fact, like he
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  Speaker 1: he he would be on bitches next, like for real,
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  Speaker 1: and they was they would be kicking out next.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to he was like, uh, started dating
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  Speaker 2: this girl that he wasn't readily attracted to, but she
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  Speaker 2: had a skincare line that was in four.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. See, like you men be a porka miss and
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  Speaker 1: they be trying to tell us we need to lower
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  Speaker 1: our standards so they can get pussy. You see, men
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  Speaker 1: are highly manipulative, magging you feel like you should not
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  Speaker 1: require anything. We are the fee males. Okay, not y'all
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  Speaker 1: niggas females meaning y'all know y'all supposed to be paying something,
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  Speaker 1: playing a fee period because take out y'all spot, because
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  Speaker 1: these niggas know them well, they're supposed to be coming
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  Speaker 1: with the bag. So Floyd Mayweather Lee confirmed as father
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  Speaker 1: of his own strip club dancers four year old after
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  Speaker 1: she claims he fired her for not getting an abortion. Y'all,
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  Speaker 1: So this nigga is still making fucking kids. Forty nine
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  Speaker 1: years old has been legally declared the father of a
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  Speaker 1: four year old girl named Price. That's interesting. That's a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting name, Price Morehead, after judge ruled March excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: After judge ruled in March twenty twenty six, the child's mother,
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  Speaker 1: Page Morehead, was a dancer at Mayweather's Las Vegas strip club,
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  Speaker 1: Girl Collection, where she allegedly had an eight year intimate
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  Speaker 1: relationship with the Boxing Legends. So this baby is the
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  Speaker 1: same age as his grandson. Page claims Floyd broke up
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  Speaker 1: with her and allegedly fired her from the club when
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  Speaker 1: he found out she was pregnant in April twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, technically you can't work, and she further alleges
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  Speaker 1: he pursued, I mean, excuse me, he pressured her to
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  Speaker 1: get an abortion. Mayweather has been order to pay thirty two,
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty dollars a month in child support
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  Speaker 1: plus over nine hundred and thirty three thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 1: back support and because he was only paid because he
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  Speaker 1: has only paid roughly one hundred and fifty one thousand
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  Speaker 1: of what he owes, a judge ruled Page can place
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  Speaker 1: a lean of up to two million dollars on his
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  Speaker 1: California property to ensure she gets paid. Price is Mayweather's
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  Speaker 1: fifth child.
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  Speaker 2: Where all my scalming as big as.
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  Speaker 1: These cans?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, still hair page.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never mad. Get the bag because why are you
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  Speaker 1: this big ass age forty nine years old? Still coming
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  Speaker 1: in bitches? And let alone a stripper? But that like
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  Speaker 1: what like? Come on man? And she named a baby price.
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  Speaker 1: I know that the price is right.
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  Speaker 2: The price is right, thirty two thousand of my eighty
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  Speaker 2: or nine hundred thousand for back child support?
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  Speaker 1: Please wild yes, now they know damn well. I definitely
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  Speaker 1: want to see miss Morehead. I want to know her. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know where she's from.
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  Speaker 2: Right, she's a black girl. I've seen the picture of
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  Speaker 2: She's cute too, she's.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty proud to her. Yeah, Max, get the Max bag.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: With the Max bag.
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  Speaker 2: People are working, they're literally Americans who are making that
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  Speaker 2: in a year, thirty two thousand dollars in a year,
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  Speaker 2: and she's getting at a month. She ain't got to
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  Speaker 2: do nothing else but go to the mailbox.
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  Speaker 1: I never think that. I don't give a damn how
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  Speaker 1: much a man makes. I don't think that anybody should be.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying get the bag, but that is
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  Speaker 1: gross that no child requires that type of and this
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  Speaker 1: is not like this was The judge was just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're just punishing him because of who he is sent Yep.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I was just having a conversation with somebody
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and they told me that how they quit a
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  Speaker 1: job because they were making too much money having to
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  Speaker 1: pay their ex forty eight hundred dollars for spousal and
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  Speaker 1: child support. So they basically quit a job and got
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  Speaker 1: a lower paying job so that didn't have to pay more.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized that.
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  Speaker 1: That abundance comes with like women, children, all that shit.
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  Speaker 1: Like listen, think positive about it, be happy about being
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: able to pay and the money will keep flowing. Like
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  Speaker 1: that is actually how like you? That's a lack of
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  Speaker 1: mindset for sure. Yeah, and making less money so you
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  Speaker 1: ain't got to give her no more money.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that's wow, that's the next level back ass back
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  Speaker 2: ass words. You're like, I ain't getting the money anyway,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that's just selfish EYU.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: We're we talking about got to talk about these gender wars? Actually,
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  Speaker 1: what are they? Will they ever end? Okay? I don't
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  Speaker 1: really can do it over war, but yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: too because at the end of the day, we all
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: want love men too, Okay, So I mean we beefing
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  Speaker 1: all the time, I don't see how we're gonna have
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: healthy relationships. But yeah, let's get into it after the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: commercial break, all right, So you guys we are back,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and can we end the gender wars already please? Or
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it possible that we are just addicted
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to the debating in the fighting and going back and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: forth and having podcast content. I mean, because we do
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: double dabble in regula. Shit, I feel like we be
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: talking about mostly our personal experience. I probably take a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: little bit more jabs you do at the male species, though. Yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I love these niggas. Okay, let's just be real fucking honest,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And there are some good men out here. And just
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: because you know there's a large percentage of a percentage
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of bad ones, that doesn't mean the women are all good, okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: because if you have never experienced a good man, chances
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: our bit you ain't shit. Okay. That is something you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: may have to explore every relationship. You cannot just everybody
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: else cannot just be the problem and if you don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: take something from your you know, bad relationships, if you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: didn't learn something about yourself. You know what I'm saying
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: about your wants and needs like to move forward. That's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: why you probably repeating the same fucking cycles and meeting
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the same niggas over and over and over again.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So but how did we get here? Like how did
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we get here? Where we are today and.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: The trenches how we are now? I really feel like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: we can probably blame Kevin Samuels, like I feel like
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: he's the godfather to the Samuelites.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I feel I blame too short be it, like that's who.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I mean. I just I feel like I say Kevin
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Samuels because you know, the white folks they always had
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like the redhole blue pill shit on YouTube. But Kevin Samuels,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: originally when he first came out, he was more so
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know what do you call itself? Like a male
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: image consultant. So he really was like talking to men
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: that is, it's just not you make more money talking
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: shit to black women. We always engage. We're gonna always
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: buy your shit, We're gonna always like show up, We're
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: gonna always just be engaged. So they they do things
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to pick up us because we are going to say
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: something right, And when we're talking about social media and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you can get paid for clicks lights like subscriptions, you
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: know how many people comment and like black women gonna
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: help your ship run up every time? And man, so
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: he changed his rhetoric, right, and his rhetoric was then
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: geared towards women more. And I can't disagree with all
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the things he would say, but it was just very
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: very provocative. And then you know, in the way in
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: which he would do and say things, it was highly
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: disrespectful a lot of times.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't like how he delivered his message that,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you know, because sometimes he was making perfect sense, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but it was just how he taught to women that
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I just didn't like. And I didn't like the fact
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that he would tell black women that that she was like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I want a six figure earner.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: That's how that's like the very first yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And it was like he told her that was going
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to be impossible for her. It's niggas driving eighteen wheelers
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: making six figures.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Exactly because of how she looked. And that's some bullshit.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the part that just was like I couldn't.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get I couldn't get down with him because.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Of that exactly. So who really benefits from the divide?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about black women and black men in particular,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: because we aren't really in the spaces of other races
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to really see if I mean, we say it all
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the time like, yeah, there's no other races. Don't be online,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you know, publicly disparaging the women. But we don't know
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: because we're not over there, right, They probably they probably
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: say slick shit about gold diggers across the board, right,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: no matter the color. But we know white women are
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the biggest gold diggers. Others are the biggest gold diggers
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: because guess what the men allow them to We're not
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: allowed to dig for some reason, even if a nigga
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: don't got gold.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Like ask me the other day, was our gold digger?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I said yes absolutely.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Always say yes, absolutely. And you want your daughter to
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: be one too, because yeah, imagine your daughter being with
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a man and you got to come fix her car
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: all the time and fix it in her house that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: they live in together, Like she just with this this
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: fucking lump on the log as dude, you don't want
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: for your daughters what you're trying to impose on us,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And that's how you kill an argument every time. That's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: what you want your daughter to be with a bird
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: ass dude who can't do shit for her. No, you don't, right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So to me, the people that benefit most from black
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: men and black women being divided is obviously government. M
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: hm okay, the man and the man. Okay, some black
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: men would beg to beg that black women are now
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the man? So did I tell I think I mentioned
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: this before. So during the clubhouse days during COVID, me
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and my friend at the time, we ran a room
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: for about two hours called our Black Women the Devil,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and we allow these niggas to talk shit for fifty
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: fucking minutes, from abortion to how much to degrees to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: how much women making all these different things they blame.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: One nigga was upset because his mama wasn't letting him
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: adjust the air condition when he was a kid, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: still now at thirty forty years old, you don't understand
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: why you couldn't fuck your comfortability, why you couldn't touch
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: your mama's ac You still don't understand to this day.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You actually bringing that up in a debate between men
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and women about how you're a black mom. Actually, she
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was an African woman who wouldn't let him change the thermostat.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Because she got to pray for that shit, That's exactly.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And maybe she got to choose between air condition and food.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: You still don't understand that because your father wasn't there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Like black the women always get blamed and understand because
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: we are the gods. Y'all gonna let us be the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: gods and not though, because y'all can step the fuck aside.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: That's really how I be feeling about the about the uh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the yeah, the battles between black men and black women.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: If we are the ones, if we cause the problems
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and step aside and let us fix them.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: On our way beside.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, talk and critique the whole time.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be in charge, though, do you?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yes? I want to. I want to.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I want to lead. I want my husband to be
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a leader. I'm so tired of like leading the ship.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I've been leading my own ship this whole time, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I would rather have a soft life and living my
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: feminine energy and not have to make all the decisions
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: all the time. Now, I don't want somebody where I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: just I love to get with a man and be
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: brainless for a little while.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm always the one who had to have the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: brain in the relationship.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah I don't want to. I want to be brainless.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And you know that same man will get with a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: woman who's crueless and he'll just follow suit and he'll
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: just do all the things that a man is supposed
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to do. But for some reason, it's just like you
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: get a woman with a brain and then you act
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: like you don't gotta do shit? Why can't we like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: whatever your strong suits are, you lead with that and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'll lead with mine. That is the type of relationship
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I would like, because even as a man, do you
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: really want to have to make the decisions all the time.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I have spoken to mini men, super successful men, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: they be tied to a woman that they chose right
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to have a family with, and they have been to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: bread winners the entire relationship. The wife don't have to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: really do much, you know, you know, to men, having
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to take care of a household is not much. But
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: if they had to do what they'd be complaining about it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: But now, like say, for instance, your kids are grown,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and you're still fitting a build for this woman. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: now you're complaining because now you want a partner who
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: can help you build more, but she really doesn't have
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the wherewithalf of that, that is not who you chose.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: You have been able to do what you've done because
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: she was at home with your kids, taking a household. Right,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you can go on and make the money and bring
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the money back home. And now you're complaining about having,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you know, been an opposite. What do y'all want? Really?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I had this guy we used to date, and he
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: moved to Dallas, and he came back here very very successful,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and he asked me to go on another day with him,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: and we went to California's Dreaming in Columbia, South Carolina,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and sat down at the bar for lunch, and he
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was saying that he found a woman of his dreams
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in Dallas. She was easy going, submissive, she listened, she could,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: she cleaned, she had sex with him, and he said,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: and guess what. I was miserable. I was like, it's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: so normal, he said, because she didn't have no ambition
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: or goals. She just wanted to just do what I
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: asked and that was it. And I was unattracted to that,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And who would have thought that I'd be unattracted to
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: what I thought was what I wanted all this time? Right,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: So they said, that's why I was circling back to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you with your talking back ass.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Now you gotta choose me first time, first go around.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: You gotta choose me, baby, Okay, ain't no spinning.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Circling back though, but thank you forging out. For sure.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: We could talk about your life.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: And you thought you didn't want this mouth. You want
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: somebody who's gonna challenge you, Tom, You know, like you
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: don't want nobody like a dog, a big dog. Niggas
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: don't want that for real, they think that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like if you actually do want that,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you may not be as strong of a man as
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you think you are, right, because real men are also
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: not above reproach, right, And you need to have checks
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and balances in a healthy relationship. And y'all love to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: refer back to the Bible and shit like that, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the Bible says you are supposed to consult with your wife.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You are not, like most men are not really the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: decision makers, like the woman is in the bedroom. The
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: people who really run the world it's a woman. It's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: all the men with the cocks, you know, fighting from
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: China to Israel, to America to Russia. It's men, right,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: But there are women in the bedroom not playing with you, niggas,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and they are the ones that are actually running the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: world from the bedroom. That's why I always say submission
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is highly manipulative. Women who have mastered the art of submission.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: They have mastered the art of seduction. Okay, y'all think
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: y'all in control. It's the you are allowing somebody to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: do something and you're making it. You're making them think
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's their idea to do it, But really it's not.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You're not in control.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: This is all completely off subject. But are they really
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: building a UFC dome in the White House lawn?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Are UFC dot? I don't know. I hadn't heard about that,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but I did hear that this ballroom that they're building
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: is going to have like all type of little hidden
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: ship underneath it. To me, it sounds like a bunker
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: at Paradise, That is what it sounds like to me.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing for showing the lawn,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but underground they got some bullshit going on.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I know what they get. It's a UFC fight on
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: a white house lawn to coming up. All right, I'm sorry,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: all right, so things men are tired of hearing, real
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: men provide? Where are they tired of hearing it? Would
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: they not agree?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I just saw. I don't know if you know you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: follow this girl. She's she's from Europe. African girl though,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: slum flower. She had like this whole debate with this
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: dude named Pharaoh on this podcast called The Honest Bunch,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and it went viral online because she nor him realized
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that they were coming onto this show for these hosts
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to pit them against each other in a gender war argument.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Right of course, she's one. She's done. Ted talks about
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you know this type of shit, and dude just was
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: not prepared for her, right, and the way she the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: way in whey she articulates like her shit talking is
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: just unmatched. And she was saying shit like, yeah, I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: don't think that I am better than man. I know
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I am if she That's the type of shit she
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: was on. And she's like if a woman is going
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to lay down and have a baby, like the man
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: should be able to afford the best healthcare for her,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: like that is not asking for too much, right, we
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: asked for too little when we have to bear children. Great,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: And that guy on that podcast said that men are
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: not the providers. He was like, that is that is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: for an adult person to provide for themselves. Understandable. You know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I always be joking, like if I have a kid, like, yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that's my pussy bitch until somebody else could take care
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of it, like if I had a daughter. But the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: minute you give it to somebody else, they better be
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: able to take care of it. And I mean that right, right,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And if we put that time and if we go
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: back to where at a time where I remember my
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: homeboy in Saint Louis, his grandmama and his great grandma
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: excuse me, and all her sisters were super fine. This
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: lady was one hundred and five years old when I
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: met her, and he was showing me pictures of her
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and all her beautiful sisters when they were young, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: they would line up on the porch and their daddies
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: would pick their husbands. Okay, they was up there with
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: their hats and their gloves and full body covered and
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: all that shit, and they lived good lives like that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: We probably need to go back to that, like who's
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that nigga family and where they're from and what that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: DNA looking like over there?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Right, But that would be hard for some people who's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: daddy ain't home. How they daddy gonna pick them if
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: they ain't got no daddy?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You know, That's what it got to start at some point, right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: at some point people need to have daddies and husbands.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want I wouldn't want my dad to pick
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: my mate, though.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Your current daddy. But maybe if your daddy was different mentally.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Know, because I just think about like women and other
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: cultures where they're you know, you know what is it
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: called betrothed? And I would I would hate that. Now
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I gotta love somebody I don't love and grow to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: love them and pretend to love them, or what if
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: they're an awful person and now I'm married to this man?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: That sounds miserable to me.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: We think about the worst case scenarios in all situations, right,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So what if your parents knew you loved you and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and knew exactly what you wanted and liked, right, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it actually picked.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna be like, oh, he has a big dick, Timmy,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: he's perfect. They're not gonna care about the things that
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I care about.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: They're not going to ask me, So.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Pull out your dick real quick. We need to see
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that real quick. But not doing that, But I mean.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I would prefer him to pull a check buck check
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: buck out, pull out that bank statement over the dick. Actually, yeah,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: those they're both important. I don't know why, uh, why
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: men wouldn't want to be the providers or why they
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: would be tired of hearing it. I guess nobody wants
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to be told what to do or what their role is.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And it's really that's really what it boils down to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: women telling men what a real man is. And I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: do agree that other men should. Probably I love to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: see a man telling other men what the fuck they
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: need to be doing, because all of y'alls just didn't
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: have a lot of men just didn't have a father
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: for any type of direction. So somebody got to be
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: able to guide y'all at some point in life. Like
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: even as grown thirty year old men, you can still
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: use some guidance, right, They still use a big brother.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: We all can use somebody. I feel like men, especially today,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: feel like the some of their worth is their money, right,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: and that makes them feel devalued as a human being.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: And that's why they, you know, are angry with women,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: some of them, because they don't feel valued as a person.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: They feel like they're only as worthy as how much
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they can provide, and that seems unfair. I imagine if
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I was a man, I wouldn't like that either, would you, like?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't want to know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: It's the equivalent of women, you know, being judged based
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: on their looks, beauty and how much pussy they given
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: out right, it's the same exact equivalency, you know, it
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: just is. So we were tired of that too.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I listen, I probably should be saying this, but I'm
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: fucking saying somebody. I know it's in Miami this weekend,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and was there, Maybe I shouldn't say this, do it?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And they were like they was out, it was outside,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and I think she was like, yeah, y'all gonna get
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a section And this might not be true, but she said,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: ain't nobody no section for that old pussy. So women
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: are valued by how our youth, cause she find as
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: hell still very much.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So he thinks he's supposed to get discounted some discounting couchie.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: No, they just want younger women in this. No, they
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: want young women in the section. They don't want forty
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: three year old bitches in the section. They want twenty five,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: twenty eight year olds in the section. So I could
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: say that to say, like even fine as hell, like
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: it's a beautiful woman we are they be aging us
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: out the game, you know, like, so men are feeling
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: like devalue because of their money and women we got
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a life, shelf life apparently even fine, I know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: That's fucked up. That's fucked up, man.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I know that might be so sad because I'm like,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: damn she but she is just a little older than me,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you know, mm hmm.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Like imagine that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: And then they talk shit when we just get our
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: own sections, you know, having fun with our friends, not
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: even get if you get.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Your own section and the invite men to the section,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: people think the men bought the section. That is not
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: your shit. Have you ever had that happen? I was like,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like you buying sections, sit down because you
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: didn't pay for this, And I feel like you standing
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: in here, like you pay for this through your energy.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Right now, your energy right now is like you bought
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: some shit in here and you didn't. You ain't never
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: paid for a section before? No, no, no, I definitely have.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe in a group, Yes I have, in
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: a group of women. Yes, yeah, because who ain'ting on
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a nigga?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You know another thing, men are tired of hearing that
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they're intimidated by successful women. I think that's true.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Some men are. Yeah, some man they.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Want a successful woman. They think they want a woman
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: who has the same amount of hustle that they do
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: until they get out of hustled. Now you got a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: problem with it. And my parents, my mom and my
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: stepdad their old ass relationship. My stepdaddy is still competing
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: with my mama about her credit score and shit like
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: that and who has the most money and shit like
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't matter and I can get it. Were gonna
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: get it if you could get it, gonna get it, Like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: why are you in competition with your fucking wife? Partner
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and I have been I have had an ex partner.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Once we like got back together, he literally came out
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and told me straight up that when we were together before,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: he was in competition. I mean, he doesn't know why
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know why. And I would always feel that right,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and then to say it, like you might look kind
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of crazy, right, but it's the niggas being competition with
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a woman, and it's the weirdest thing. Like you out
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: here looking for a partner and whole time like you're
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: not getting where you need to be going because you
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: really you literally got somebody trying to hold you back,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: or he could just be subconsciously that he's doing it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: It's a sad thing. I literally talked to at least
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: five because you know, women sit in my hair chair
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: and they chair their stories. I listened to like five
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: women have substantial issues with their men, like real, It
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't like no bullshit right, And I was sitting there
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: and like sometimes I'd be like sayd that I'm single,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But this week I was like, oh yeah, peace of
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: this is peaceful in comparison.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You always miss what you don't have, right, Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I think if you talk to the married women there
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: are some because we had a whole episode with women
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: who had good marriages and we love their partners. But
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You talk to the divorce court girlies,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: they like never fucking again.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Mm. Hmm.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of women just opting out of relationships,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: women all together, and to me, two men, it's violent
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: even when we're not worried about y'all. Y'all got something
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to say about that too. Yeah, I really don't understand
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: what they want. But you know the way in which
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and this all came along with Kevinson talking about how
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you know the degrees. Don't nobody give a damn bunch
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: your degree and your money and all that stuff. So
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: another thing, uh, this says men are tired of hearing,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: is that if he wanted to, he would why outside
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of hearing that, because I mean, it's just anybody if
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: people do exactly what they want to do. Absolutely, yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: because you could be in a ten year relationship with
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: this man, he never married you, and he can suck around,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: leave this relationship and marry somebody else within a month.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: It's just the truth. You were probably just a placeholder
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: for a very long time because you allowed it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: So if marriage is something that you want and you're
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: with somebody for an extended period of time and they haven't,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you know, showed any actual interest in wanting to marry you,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he probably doesn't want to you getting on
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: one knee is not suggested, bitch, get up right?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Never mind? It makes me think about Christy Lambkin finance.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: She looks so good.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I believe they're married. They both have rings on well,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: they're married now for years they have both had rings
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on it. And it's maybe even if they didn't go
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: through the actual ceremony like they they're married as far
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: But remember when she got down on one knee to
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that nigga. I'll never forgive her for that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I mean your love and.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: M hey TLC did it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: All things. Women are tired of hearing women only want money.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: It's the only, It's the only for me.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: You want money? And what else?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Companionship, love, a partner, time commit It meant you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: we want all those things.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: We want other shit too, right? It was crazy. Uh,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna dialogue with cats? So I'm still a Greensboro
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: now because I am Meet and Dasha.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So I mean men die before us anyway, So either way,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: we go dialogue with our animals and our friends.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the relationships that we facilitated outside of the
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: relationship with your ass, We're gonna be good. We're gonna
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: have friends and family rallying around our old ass in
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: bed and the kids too. Just have y'all be walking
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: out on your kids and now you're old as hell
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: wanting to try to get a relationship with them because
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you don't have a woman, and you realize that is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: so bad, you know when you think about it. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: seen this video where this guy was saying I actually
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: sent it to my mom because it was on the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: woman you got a little popping Instagram too, And she's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: about she's in her sixties, looks like sixty something, and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: she was saying her whole you know platform is about
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: women choosing themselves after fifty five, and she was responding
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to a video of a guy saying, how you know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: ever since he lost his wife, he's been homeless, He
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: don't have a mate, he sleep by hisself, all this shit, right,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And then it clicks on to her it was a stitch.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: She was like, you know the thing about elephants. Elephants
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: remember everything, so do women. Y'all just giving her like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: a random fact, and she ended the video like, yeah, okay,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: next right, Yeah, so we just end up being like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a maid type, you know for men, somebody keep the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: warm bed. And then he also said that his wife
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: was redwinner, so that's why he didn't have any money
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: once he left the relationship.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Should have stayed where was at exactly.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Some women come with abundance. Man, modern women are too masculine.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: That doesn't bother me. I feel like to be a
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: well rounded human being, you have to be both masculine
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and feminine. I don't agree with We've done an episode
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: about the masculine feminine shit. I don't agree with. I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: don't agree that some of those characteristics that they assigned
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: to masculine traits are just exclusive to men. Why do
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you want an indecisive woman? Why would a woman that
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: is decisive be masculine and she wants like you want
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't know what they want to eat all
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: And I think if we have taken on so many
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: masculine traces because we've been forced to know, like, we've
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: had to step up in ways that maybe isn't the
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: most feminine, but we didn't have a choice. You know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: maybe we had some men that came in and played
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: those roles. We could exist in our feminine resiliency. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: would love to try. I'm in here doing motherfucking housing
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: inspections like a whole maintenance man out here. Masculine energy
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: more than I ever did in my life.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: So getting money is masculine. Money is feminine. Money itself
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: is feminine. Kid.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: No, going up in these houses and looking at they
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: sinks in their windows and the electricity, that's my that's masculine.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: You know. I just women never men never really had
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to change because even like the men who would be
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the totem pole, they still benefit
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: from from the patriarchy. Like women had to create, we
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: we not create. Excuse me, we endured a lot that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: created the woman that you see today, the quote unquote
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: modern woman. One thing from that podcast, the Honest Bonge.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: These two people going back and forth, the guy, now
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: these are all African people. Now, the guy at the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: end of it, he really showed his truth colors because
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: he says some shit like, you know, like basically like
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: fuck all this fuck was you saying, bitch? Because if
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: men wanted to take all this shit back, roll everything back,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing y'all can do about it. That's that's the type.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That's how greasy. He started talking right Basically, if we
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: wanted to put y'all asses in shackles, if we wanted
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to is, there would be nothing a woman can do
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: about it. There are gonna be some men, some men
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that's going to revolt with us. There are some men
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: that are highly feminists, all right, and they understand the
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: power and the importance of the divine feminine. It's you,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: niggas that's going to hell that don't. We are the
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: direct source we are, Okay, you gotta come through us, literally,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So imagine us worshiping the motherfucker we created. Right, You
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: literally literally came from a woman, and you think you're
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the greater being. Yeah, not to diminish what a man is,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: but just think about that for unmamento. Please one minute.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: You came from a woman, so why would be we
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: be the lesser beans? And this is just I'm just
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: not doing this topic any justice because I'm creating the division. Still. Yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: like I feel like men aren't supposed to bow it
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: on a woman. I just feel like that, you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And I feel like the word.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, not about a better word is
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: honor to me, honor women, No about down.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Nigga on their knees. I like looking down at a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: nigga while they're eating the scoucine. I'm sorry about That's
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: how I want to see you.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I think they should honor us more, and I think
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: that's what's lost. And like the women are becoming more
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: and more like men every day, Like especially in the music.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: The music is scary sometimes.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: No, all of it is a counter. All of it
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: is a counter women just really covering up just how
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: hurt we are from the abuse that other women, the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: women that came before us, before us, and not just yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: endured at the hands of our men. We just hurt.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: And it just really be saying, so bitch, get over it.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: It's just like slavery. Imagine it's literally the same thing,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Another thing they say women
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: are tired of hearing being tired of hearing is women
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: don't know how to submit. I am kind of tired
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: of hearing that because I feel like in a partnership,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: y'all are supposed to submit to each other, and I
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: feel like a real man would submit first, to lead
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: by example of what submission actually looks like.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I can agree with that one a little bit. I
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. I've never been required to submit.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Like when I when I hear submit, what does that
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: mean exactly?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Because if you want covering and if you want provision
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: from a man, as a woman, we say we want
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: men to do all this. We want men to you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: protect us. You got to be able to listen to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: your man.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: So submit means listen.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean okay. So, like I said, when you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: think about the Bible and what the Bible says about
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: submission and how men are supposed to still consult with
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: their wives, You're not just supposed to be out here
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and all and be all right. You're supposed to do
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: this together. Submission is respecting the man's authority essentially.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So a more man would be like I said what
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I said, and that's final, and I gotta shut up
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: that he should never even get to that point, because
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: you should have like you should have never ever been
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: trying to see anything back about what he was asking
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: why God? That's not hard though, you know, God ain't
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: through with me yet because I haven't been in you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the relationship where one a man would say that to me,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like maybe I don't know how to submit.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: That's something I have to understand I've been single so
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: long that maybe that's why.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Submissive refers to the willingness to yield, obey, or confirm
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: to the authority or will of another person. It generally
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: implies to putting one's own desires on or control aside
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to allow someone else to lead. And relationships and marriage,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it often refers to a dynamic where the partner trusts
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the other trust right to take the lead and decision
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: making and providing. Many view this as a mutual agreement
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: based on trust, respect, and emotional support rather than a
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: lack of opinion BDSM and kink. Oh, we ain't going
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: into that. Uh yeah, So in order for your man
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: like so, I'll give you a perfect example. Some women
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: don't think that if they're mass I don't want you
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: wearing that, that they should still be able to wear
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: if they want to wear. Men understand other men right.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: So you may not be trying to you may not
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: be wearing this thing to attract and get the attention
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of other men. But if your man does not feel
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: comfortable with it, consider it. Consider you know, at least
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: consider right. And if it's just the change of a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: shirt or I mean, I had a nigga, tell me
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: he don't want me wearing legs leggings, no more, like
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: who are you playing with?
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Sorry? Let me ask you this, because first of all,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: every legas are a universal dress code, So comfortable.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Jeans all the time. No, I'm not comfortable in jeans,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: legs rubbing, no.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Right, And I'm training these legs with black ashorts when
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: it get hot. Same shit, the sleeveless legers. But all right,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: so let me ask you this. Is this an example
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: of all right? So my boyfriend at the time, we
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have like a lot of money, and he wanted
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: to get a new truck, and it just was a
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: poor financial decision. And I was very aware that it
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: was a poor financial decision based on our income, and
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I was and I was like, really against it, and
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I talked. I called his mama to talk to her
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: about it, and she was like, just let a man
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: be a man. Let him. So then I was like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I shut up, and now we broke his fuck. We
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: broke as fuck. We got we're car poor at this
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: point because all we got is this car and we
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: don't have no money for nothing else. Was that a
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: good example of submission? Because I felt like, I submit
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: to what he wanted against my better judgment. So that
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: what submission?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, see that, and that's why.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Well we lived together. We were living to good.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: That's why you shouldn't be living together. That nigga was
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: living by itself and got that. He wouldn't have got
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: that truck if he had two incomes. If he didn't
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: have two incomes, he thought he could afford it because
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: he probably had a little couple of dollars left over
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: extra every month because he had you there, and you
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: should not have been there paying fucking bills. That's where
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the shit is fucked up at. No, he should not
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: have gotten that vehicle because if you weren't there to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: pay half the bills, he would not have been been
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: able to afford it, even as much as he could
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: have afforded it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Right, So now we carpour got his nice car and
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: no money. And it was like and I just shut up.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: At first. I was like, I just don't think this
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: is a good idea. Let's we don't need it. So
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you know, submission is like you know, I'm working on
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: that one because it's like do I just obey even
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: though I know it's against the better the greater good
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: of our union. What do you do? Then you still submit?
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: No, just shut up, That's what I'm saying it Like,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the submission comes with trust, you trusting that your partner
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: is making the best decisions for the both of you,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: not just for himself.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that wouldn't be somebody you would want to marry.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: He doesn't take your counsel into consideration because they're supposed to.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: And it's amissive, uh situation where the wife is supposed
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to be submissive, the man is still supposed to take
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: your counsel.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Right. But then when I did what I said, you know,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: like you get to that point, then it's like.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: And I would say, hey, you get that truck, and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: this is how much I'm paying in bills every month.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I would reduce my fan financial contribution. But now we
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: both fucked up in here. He fucked up and paid
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: his bill.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: So I mean, that's why I struggle with submission.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: But that be like a smart person, a smart man,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: not just a boy. Because we always say, yeah, if
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I had a man, I will follow you to the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: end of the earth as long as you're not as
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: long as we're not about to fall off a cliff, right.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I want to be in a situation where I could
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: sit back and not fucking think my relationships, not all
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: of them, the one relationship where I felt like somebody
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the guy who I was engaged to, I have to
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: think sometimes, but he like his managerial skills were deplorable. Nigga.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to obey you because of how you
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: be talking to me like that needs to be put
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: into submission too. If you want me to do something,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: to talk to me fucking nice, bitch's idea, but talking
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: to me nice while you trying to get me to
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: do something like yeah, and then you know you're in
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: situations with somebody else where they just have no ideas.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: You got to come up. Like if it's zombie apocalypse
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: happened today and I'm with this particular person, I gotta
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: come up with our fucking escape plan, and I got
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: to do all the planning for all the things. That's
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: funny to do it, but I have to be the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: brains behind the operation all the time. Like that doesn't
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that doesn't increase the respect I have for that person.
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  Speaker 1: I don't trust you to make any decisions at this point.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: If I feel like I'm always having to make the
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: decisions because you make bad ones, right. That's also somebody
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: would not want to marry. So it has to be
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: some balance, man. And they say balance is not a
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: real thing, but in some situations like relationships, there has
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to be some fucking balance that she.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Don't never it's always the scale is always tipping one
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: way or the other. And that's the hard part. Yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: And that's why we like in these gender wars as
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: it is, because the scale these they'll ever be.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Like a peace treaty of some sort, because I mean,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know when whatever I think about doing a
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  Speaker 1: particular topic, I always think the conversation is gonna go
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: different than it actually does. So I thought I was
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: going to offer solutions that's gonna be solution based, but
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it just turns out it's not. So let's try to
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: let's let's come up with a couple of solutions before
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: we get the funk about of here. So could could
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: there be like a peace treaty? Right? What is one
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: thing women are right about? You think you would say
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  Speaker 1: one thing all things?
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  Speaker 2: I know?
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  Speaker 1: It's so tough.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Confusing is can you refrase the place for money?
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: We don't give a fuck. If we die with cats, like.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: We are saying, I think we would need like like
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: something really really bad to I hate to say this,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: but something really really bad would have to happen. Worset
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: would have to happen in our society that forces us
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  Speaker 2: to like let go of these superficial type thinkings and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: like latch onto one another, like wait, we're gonna happen.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: We're gonna die as a species if we don't come
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: together creating. It's just no, that's what I'm saying. It's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: some type of major paradigm shift where the whole, our
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: whole thinking is you know, changed because of this event
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: where we're like okay, wait, wait, wait, we're doing this
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  Speaker 2: all wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's happening. It's been happening, you know, early early nineteen hundreds. Yes,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: black people were married at way higher rates than our
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: white counterparts and shit like that. Right, So, yes, all
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the things that that that were strategically and systematically done
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: to sever the black nuclear family. We understand all those things. Right.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: So since that point, all these tacks that we've had,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: you would think that it would drive us together. But
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I think the more you throw income in there are
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: women are being more independent outside of men. We don't
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: have to put up with that shit to deal with you. Right,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: So now we have options, right, we could be with
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: a man because a man is optional now, before a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: man was an optional. I don't know how we would
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: get back to I mean, right now, the economy is terrible, right,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and I think the people who are coupling are coupling.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: But I think more women are struggling by themselves, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I think we prefer to struggle by ourselves versus with
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: a man. Right, It's just ugly, right, I don't know
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: how we get back to the early nineteen hundreds if
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: we don't think that right now is a dire need
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: too for us to life is based off of double occupancy.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: This shit is not I've seen the video when a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: nigga was like scooping someone in low wasted or gas.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Like shit is fucking serious.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, serious, but I don't think people are seeing it
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: as serious as it is. Hennessy just came out with
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: new drinks. Bitch was as outside buying you know, bottles
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and you know twerking. Like it's not as dire as
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the luxuries that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: we are provided are gone, all of this.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Would Yeah, that's what would have to have to happen.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: The world would literally have to end and start a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: new what's your boy with the goddamn uh the camping grounds?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Oh uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah Jonathan, Yeah, so Jonathan.
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  Speaker 1: He was like he has like the slogan, It's like,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: what is it? Uh? Is no such thing as a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: strong black woman in nature? Like as you need men,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you need men in those type of environments, and in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: nature there's nothing but a tent and of some pistols
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and it's not much of anything. You need a man
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even subscribe to the strong
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: black woman. I hate that. I hate because no other
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: race of women is called strong. I just feel like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: that's characteristic that should be attributed to our men and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: not to us.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I could still survive in the wild.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I would not want to have to by myself. There's
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I think, and I think that is probably.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: The main.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Thing. Women are saying, Yeah, we can do this shit
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: by ourselves. We really don't want to, but we are
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: being forced to essentially, and then you they look down
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: on you when you can also.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: And we're being programmed and raised to be prepared to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: do it by ourselves. We've always been taught what they say,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: have y'all have your own money, be able to take
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: care of yourself.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: That came from a place of that's trauma. That is
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: a trum all of the things that That's what I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: was saying about the matriarchy and patriarchy, like all the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: things that women are now doing is all trauma response.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: The patriarchy was not based on trauma response to anything.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Y'all have been running shit for a very long time,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and shit is really fucked up because of the patriarchy. Yeah, okay,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying like things would be better with, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: under a matriarchy, because women are highly treacherous. Women are
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: definitely apex predators. I'm not going to say there's just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: all good women amongst us because we experienced some of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the horrible things for women within friendships. Okay, so some
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: of y'all bitches need to get your head knocked off too.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: So saying that I just would want a world and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: by women. I think women are good. Women have great
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: leadership skills, Women are better at organizing. Women are actually
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: better at listening than men when it comes to like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: a group setting and getting shit done. I think most
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: successful men surround themselves by women because it's not a
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: cock fight. You know, women understand that they could be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: they need to be an Indian right amongst men, everybody
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: want to be the fun the chief. Nobody nobody realizes
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: and nobody you know, kings are born that way. You know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: you might can work your way up to being I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: don't know a night possibly, but kings are born kings
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and they got them queens in the room, putting that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: pussy on them, you know, really running shit. So I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: don't know where we can draw a line in the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: sand unless the whole world just ends and shit just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: started fucking new. I really, and I'm specifically talking about
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: you know, black black men and black women, and it's.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: So scary and sad honestly, But you know, I love
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: to see love. I love to see people fall in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: love and get married. And I love this more than
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: To see that.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I love people to see people staying married. There's this
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: couple that went to high school with me. They got together,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: he was a senior, she was a freshman, and everybody's like,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: what the fuck they doing together? Like e yuck, do
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: you know they are still together, They are still happy.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: They had their you know, everybody go through their shit,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: but they're still very much in love with each other
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: all these years later. And it's just a beautiful thing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: to witness and see, and it gives me some hope. Yeah,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: you just got to wake up and choose each other
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: every day.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: That's all it is. It's just a state of mind
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: being in love with somebody. But I just want to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: pose one question to the listeners before we get out
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: of here. What's one thing you wish the opposite sex,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the opposite sex understood about you that has nothing to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: do with money, sex or looks. Because if we can
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: answer the one question honesty honestly, maybe that's where the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: peace treaty or the peace talk starts.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: One thing that I wish the opposite sex understood about me.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Hmmm. That's something to think about.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: We do need you. I I've never said I don't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: need a man. No, I need a man. I want
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a man. I desire a man. I'm a headosexual woman.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I also want your money, to want you to do well.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I also want you to be a great parent, you know,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So I do have some deliverables. I have some ask
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: and I just want you. I want men to consider
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: their you know, the women that they know the same
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: way they would they CONSI. They would consider a woman
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: that you know came from their balls. That's all. That's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: my last last too.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: What's my last last? It's rough out here, y'all hanging there.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell y'all when it comes
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: to univars. Nobody has the answer. You can listen to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: every podcast in the world right now and we're all
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: going to be pretty much in alignment on how. We
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: don't know what to do to fix it, you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: But I guess the best thing we can do is
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: show up as the best version of yourself and you know,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: lead with love and give people grace out here, the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: same grace you want for yourself. So that's it. That's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: all I got, baby, Yeah, yeah, man.
• 1:08:44
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• 1:09:49
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• 1:09:52
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