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The Jeffrey Epstein Files Pt. 1 · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theory podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
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Speaker 2: How are you.
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Speaker 3: I'm Olivia Hidar.
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Speaker 2: That I believe makes us your hosts. Olivia, how's it good?
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Speaker 3: You know it's going okay, it's cold now in La finally,
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Speaker 3: which means it's like fifty degrees.
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Speaker 2: Love it.
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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, except for being you know, my
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Speaker 3: cozy's getting getting cold. But other than that it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that thing where my toes get a
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Speaker 2: little numb when.
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Speaker 3: It gets cool. Yeah. But yeah, it's.
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Speaker 2: Also jacket season. I got a couple really bitch in
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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears Starter jackets that I get to wear. Hell
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Speaker 2: yeah around this time of year. Love it. But no
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Speaker 2: matter how cold you are, the good news is you
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Speaker 2: can always wrap yourself in the warmth of this new
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein document drop. Hottest government document drop of the
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Speaker 2: year so far. I know the year is, yes, yes,
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Speaker 2: but still my favorite.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be tough to top.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, I believe so, I believe so Yeah, when these
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Speaker 2: first started coming out, there were three hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: two pages, and I was like, oh, hell yeah, I'll
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Speaker 2: read those all this weekend and we'll comprehensively cover this. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and by Sunday that had risen to twenty twenty four
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Speaker 2: pages of documents, which we did not get through them all.
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though, people, solely because I love
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Speaker 2: you so much, I read about seven to eight hundred
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Speaker 2: pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents yesterday while watching football so
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Speaker 2: many it's a lot. This was my Sunday reading Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: Epstein documents. That thing where I was like, oh, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to read all three hundred and fifty of these
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Speaker 2: and then they like drop a thousand more on Sunday
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Speaker 2: reminded me a lot of when I was a kid
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Speaker 2: and I had collected every Gi Joe action figure and I,
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Speaker 2: shit you not. Like three days later, I get a
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Speaker 2: flyer in the mail from Hasbro that's like, here's twenty
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Speaker 2: five new Gi joees and I was like, fuck this, dad,
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Speaker 2: let's sell. And we did. We sold my Gi Joe collection.
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Speaker 2: This is kind of exactly like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's basically the same thing.
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Speaker 2: Except with lots of sexual abuse.
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Speaker 3: Right in a lot fewer action features.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, less fighting. There were lasers in Gi Joe, Right.
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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, right, every kid show had blasters because they
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Speaker 3: weren't allowed to have like bullets.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So this document drop comes courtesy of the
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Speaker 2: US Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The first part of
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Speaker 2: the documents is just their argument for why they want
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Speaker 2: these documents released. It kicks off with a rundown of
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Speaker 2: some important dates in the Epstein story, which we should
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Speaker 2: take people through. Not everyone, as the Jeffrey Epstein scholars
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Speaker 2: that we are, so.
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Speaker 3: Yes, although I do recommend people go back and listen
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Speaker 3: to our episode immediately after the Jeffrey Epstein quote unquote suicide,
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Speaker 3: which is one of our most excited episodes. I think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we called it the Jeffrey Epstein One
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Speaker 2: Week Anniversary Spectacular. Yeah, that's a very fun episode. And
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's our only Jeffrey Epstein episode.
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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely not. But I just remember our excited texts
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Speaker 3: about like we got the records and we have to
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Speaker 3: talk about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, He's an emergency when whenever Epstein news
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Speaker 2: comes out, you gotta talk about it. It's true, and
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Speaker 2: I know people were hoping like this was going to
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Speaker 2: be it, like this is going to be the dump
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Speaker 2: that really implicates people. But one thing they bring up
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Speaker 2: in these court documents that I think should act to
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Speaker 2: kind of temper people's hopes a little bit in terms
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Speaker 2: of what's going to come out in files like these.
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Speaker 2: These files pertain to a very specific legal thing, which
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Speaker 2: is Virginia Geoffrey's defamation lawsuit against Julane Maxwell. Julane Maxwell
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Speaker 2: basically said Virginia Geoffrey was lying about all of her allegations.
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Speaker 2: Geoffrey filed a defamation suit, and a lot of the
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Speaker 2: documents come from that suit and what you have to
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Speaker 2: take into account, and they bring this up in regards
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Speaker 2: to Alan Dershowitz in these documents is Virginia Geoffrey also
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Speaker 2: Virginia Roberts is another name she goes by. She's the
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Speaker 2: Epstein victim who accused Alan Dershowitz when she was making
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Speaker 2: her allegations and when she filed her lawsuit and included
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Speaker 2: Dershowitz in it, he immediately filed another lawsuit and was
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Speaker 2: like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa she is
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Speaker 2: suing over defamation. She's suing Julaanne Maxwell over defamation. My
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Speaker 2: name shouldn't even be in that shit. And his lawsuit
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Speaker 2: got thrown out, but not because he was wrong, but
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Speaker 2: because a judge was already like, yeah, you can't just
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Speaker 2: put any name you want in here, like this has
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Speaker 2: to pertain to your thing. So if you're expecting that
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of big names being like
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Speaker 2: explicitly outed as pedophiles in these documents, right, there's a
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Speaker 2: reason that hasn't made the news yet because it's not
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Speaker 2: in there.
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Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, and like we said in that in the
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Speaker 3: post death episode, his death was the end of any
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Speaker 3: chance of any famous or important person being prosecuted as
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Speaker 3: a result of this. Like that, that's just not going
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Speaker 3: to happen, and people need to understand that, like that,
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Speaker 3: there's prop Well, I don't want to say one hundred
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Speaker 3: percent positive, but more than likely we're not going to
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Speaker 3: get a big arrest of like say Alander Schwitz or whatever.
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Speaker 3: Added this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what we really should be clamoring to
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Speaker 2: see is what was in his safe, because sure it
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Speaker 2: is alleged that there were like videos in his safe
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Speaker 2: that I mean, I don't want to see him, no, no,
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Speaker 2: like because that would be a crime, But I do
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Speaker 2: want to like know who's on them and what they're doing, obviously.
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Speaker 3: But these docums absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Again they could kick off with some important dates. June thirtieth,
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, that is when Jeffrey Epstein agreed
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Speaker 2: to that now very notorious plea deal where he pleaded
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Speaker 2: guilty to quote procuring a person under the age of
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Speaker 2: eighteen for prostitution, which is a very very very kind
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Speaker 2: and light handed way to say he paid to rape
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Speaker 2: a child. Yes, basically, and as part of that plea deal,
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Speaker 2: he received very limited jail time and like he was
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Speaker 2: sentenced to home arrest. But again they were like, if
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Speaker 2: you go look into the original story, there were cops
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Speaker 2: in that case who were like, this motherfucker's just walking
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Speaker 2: around downtown Miami like nothing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. He basically just was like slapped on the
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Speaker 3: wrist and maybe monitored or whatever.
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Speaker 2: And I think if you're looking for evidence or hints
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Speaker 2: or clues that Jeffrey Epstein might have had some connection
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Speaker 2: to the government, I think you can stop there. Yes,
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Speaker 2: like the deal he got for raping kids, for being
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Speaker 2: a straight up pedophile, like he pleaded guilty to procuring
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Speaker 2: a person under the age of eighteen for prostitution, but
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Speaker 2: if you look into the actual details of that, he
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Speaker 2: was just serially raping and abusing kids. And he gets
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Speaker 2: to slap on the wrist from the government, and on
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Speaker 2: top of that, all of his associates get immunity just
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Speaker 2: across the board. And it seems like the government just
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Speaker 2: kind of hoped no one would ever find out about that, right.
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Speaker 3: And people knew about, like this was a widely known thing,
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Speaker 3: but there wasn't the widespread like outcry for release the
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Speaker 3: names of his accomplices and stuff at that time in
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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 2: And there's a reason for that, and we'll get to
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Speaker 2: it in one second. But first, what happened after that
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Speaker 2: plea deal. Two of his victims came forward, like as anonymously,
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Speaker 2: we don't know their names, but two victims came forward
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Speaker 2: and they filed a lawsuit to nullify that plea deal
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Speaker 2: based on the grounds that the government didn't inform them
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Speaker 2: of this plea deal and how it would impact them,
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Speaker 2: which the government has to do. It's the law, right
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Speaker 2: in a case like this, the government has to consult
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Speaker 2: with the victims of a federal sex crime before they
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Speaker 2: just essentially pardoned the person who did it, So they
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Speaker 2: filed that lawsuit. It carried on for years and years
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Speaker 2: and years, and then December thirtieth, twenty fourteen, that's when
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Speaker 2: two more victims come forward, one of them being Virginia Jeoffrey,
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Speaker 2: and they want to join that lawsuit to nullify that
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Speaker 2: plea deal. And this is the point where Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 2: starts getting connected to like really famous names as a pedophile. Like,
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Speaker 2: this is the point where it becomes oh, it's not
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Speaker 2: just that all these famous people knew Jeffrey Epstein and
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein turned out to be a pedophile. No, no, no,
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Speaker 2: yeah no, it's that they were zig zagging around the
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Speaker 2: world on Epstein's plane all sex trafficking kids basically.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, up to that point, it was just, hey,
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's a pedophile and he got off really easy.
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Speaker 2: So when Virginia Geoffrey comes forward, one of her claims
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Speaker 2: is that she was trafficked to numerous prominent American politicians,
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Speaker 2: powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well known prime minister,
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Speaker 2: and other world leaders along with Alan Dershowitz and Julane Maxwell.
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Speaker 2: I do wonder why she only names Alan Dershowitz. They
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Speaker 2: come on.
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Speaker 3: It is, I mean, it's just it's interesting that his
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Speaker 3: name has been there since there were names attached.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 3: That's true, I mean, and like, it's not like he
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Speaker 3: is the most famous man in America, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: it's just an interesting name to pick unless you have
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Speaker 3: a specific reason to pick that name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, Alan Dershowitz is a lawyer. He could
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Speaker 2: sue us. We're not saying the specific reasons because he would. Girl,
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Speaker 2: you know, someone's targeting Alan Dershowitz, who knows exactly his
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Speaker 2: name is the one that keeps coming up often. And
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Speaker 2: so the thing about Alan Dershowitz again, like I mentioned,
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Speaker 2: he made he filed this lawsuit after she filed her
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Speaker 2: lawsuit and was like, hey, you take my fucking name
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Speaker 2: out of that, and they mostly did, but by that
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Speaker 2: point it had made it to the media already. So sorry,
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Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz. Sorry, Yes, I guess you shouldn't defend Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: Epstein in court next time.
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Speaker 3: I would, I would not personally.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So another important date, January third, twenty fifteen, Julaane Maxwell,
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Speaker 2: via her publicist, issues a press statement saying Virginia Geoffrey's
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Speaker 2: allegations are untrue and that her claims are obvious lies.
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Speaker 2: And then September twenty one, twenty fifteen, Geoffrey files a
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Speaker 2: defamation claim against Maxwell in response to that statement. And
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Speaker 2: that is what the first hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
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Speaker 2: of pages of these documents are about, is that lawsuit,
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Speaker 2: that statement by Julane Maxwell, and whether the information in
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Speaker 2: that suit should be made public. Because in all the
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Speaker 2: legal back and forth between those two in Alan Dershowitz,
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Speaker 2: all like Spider Man, pointing at each other and suing
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Speaker 2: each other, it ended with a settlement. But also they
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Speaker 2: let the involved parties decide what files should be sealed.
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Speaker 2: The end, everyone like everything was sealed essentially, and so
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Speaker 2: since then, three different parties have tried to get those
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Speaker 2: records unsealed. Journalist Mike Cernovich.
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Speaker 3: Okay, he's putting quotes over journalists. You have to hear that.
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Speaker 2: Heavy air quotes over journalist Mike Cernovich, actual journalists at
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Speaker 2: the Miami Herald, which, if you've never read it, one
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Speaker 2: of the better news outlets in the country. They do
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Speaker 2: really good work. And Alan Dershowitz, who claimed that these
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Speaker 2: records would prove that Geoffrey invented the allegations against him,
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Speaker 2: that was the word he used. And if you are
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Speaker 2: out there thinking, well, all right, well, why would it
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Speaker 2: take this long for anyone to mention that famous people
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Speaker 2: were involved. One, the first victims who came forward might
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Speaker 2: not have been trafficked to famous people. Maybe that was
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Speaker 2: a whole different operation. And two, if you're those first victims,
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Speaker 2: do you really want to come out and be like, Hey,
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Speaker 2: the fucking Sultan of BRUNEI raped me And it's like right, yeah,
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Speaker 2: then he's going.
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Speaker 3: To kill you, like exactly.
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Speaker 2: That is a thing that comes up in these court records,
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Speaker 2: is that you have to take that into account when
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Speaker 2: you're deciding whose names to release, Like are you going
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Speaker 2: to get that girl killed? Because just putting their name
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Speaker 2: in this court document isn't going to get that person arrested?
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Speaker 3: Right, And and then you you know, from a future perspective,
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Speaker 3: remember that Jeffrey Epstein died, you know, as a result
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Speaker 3: of a lot of this, and so you know, it
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Speaker 3: kind of makes sense that they wouldn't want their names involved,
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Speaker 3: and they wouldn't want to be talking about famous people.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Olivia, he died from the deep depression he
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Speaker 2: fell into after being caught.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the jail did a whoopsie left him alone with
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Speaker 3: this hank of rope and.
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Speaker 2: It's a gun in his cell getting there. And so
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Speaker 2: there's that concern in unsealing these court records, and also
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Speaker 2: another that this appeals court just puts in their ruling.
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Speaker 2: Not every name that comes up here is automatically a pedophile, right.
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Speaker 3: But people can pile when we decide whether they are
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Speaker 3: correct correct, which we will we will.
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Speaker 2: By the end of this we are going to cast
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Speaker 2: judgment on a lot of famous names to decide if
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Speaker 2: they were pedophiles or not.
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Speaker 3: But a good.
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Speaker 2: Example is Chris Tucker. I feel so bad for Chris Tucker.
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Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, this one charity thing that involved them
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Speaker 2: doing like some kind of like performance or appearance in
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Speaker 2: one country and then like going to another country and
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Speaker 2: doing another appearance, like all in the same day. And
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Speaker 2: they were on Jeffrey Epstein's plane when they made that
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Speaker 2: trip from one country to the other. And there's like
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Speaker 2: cameras filming, there's no young girls, it's just the people
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Speaker 2: involved in the charity thing. But still now Chris Tucker
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Speaker 2: has to be like, come on, man, one time I
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Speaker 2: was on his plane and I didn't even know the guy.
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Speaker 2: But forever, Chris Tucker's name is going to be in
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein's.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and looks he's doing okay. He was in air
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Speaker 3: last year and so you know, and he's great in there,
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Speaker 3: and so you know.
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Speaker 2: He's there's a very funny line from these documents. This
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Speaker 2: is a quote. We also caution the public to crucially
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Speaker 2: assess allegations contained in judicial pleadings. That's not going to happen.
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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen at all, unless it's an
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Speaker 2: allegation against someone.
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Speaker 3: You like, right exactly, So they add.
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Speaker 2: Another quote in regards to the veracity of the claims
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Speaker 2: made here. In fact, allegations appearing in such documents might
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Speaker 2: be less credible than those published elsewhere. And they're thinking,
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Speaker 2: there is yeah, these people are under oath, but hey,
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Speaker 2: people lie under oath all the time, and they lie
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Speaker 2: under oath to further an agenda, to achieve a goal
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Speaker 2: all sorts of reasons, right, because they want to discredit
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Speaker 2: someone like some people just have the money to fuck
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Speaker 2: around with the court system like that. Sure, Like there
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Speaker 2: are people who will just sue you because they know
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Speaker 2: it will financially break you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will I will say the flaw in
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Speaker 3: their reasoning in this case is that the people who
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Speaker 3: have the money to fuck with the court system are
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Speaker 3: the people being named in the documents exactly, not the
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Speaker 3: people making the accusations in this case.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Virginia Geoffrey, she claimed that Julaane Maxwell assisted
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Speaker 2: in trafficking her, and that the Prince Andrew incident took
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Speaker 2: place in Julaine Maxwell's apartment, and a lot of the
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Speaker 2: early pages of these documents that the court did finally
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Speaker 2: decide to release is high to just the defense of
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Speaker 2: Julane Maxwell. Right, So, if you're expecting to go in
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Speaker 2: and just get name after name a famous person who
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Speaker 2: was raping kids, it's not gonna happen. You're gonna get
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Speaker 2: a lot of all. Right, Well, if she's telling the truth,
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Speaker 2: then how come this and how come this and how
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Speaker 2: come this? And they bring up things like during the
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Speaker 2: time Virginia Geoffrey claimed to be a sex slave, she
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Speaker 2: also was in contact with police twice. She once someone
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Speaker 2: stole five hundred dollars from her apartment, and another time
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Speaker 2: when her landlord threw all her belongings out and lit
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Speaker 2: her mattress on fire, which gods and they point out, well,
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Speaker 2: at no point during those contacts with police did she
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Speaker 2: ever say, hey, I'm a sex slave. But those things
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Speaker 2: do correspond with the dates where she claimed she was
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Speaker 2: essentially enslaved, because her her story is that she like
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Speaker 2: escaped when she was in a foreign country, like she
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Speaker 2: is like being held hostage. So all of these pages
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Speaker 2: early on are just Julane Maxwell being like she had
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Speaker 2: a car, like she just drove around West Palm Beach freely.
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Speaker 3: Sure, but I will say that there are ways of
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Speaker 3: being controlled in a manner that we would call a
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Speaker 3: sex slave that don't necessarily limit your freedom of movement
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Speaker 3: in that way.
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Speaker 2: Sure, And I'm not bringing all this up to say, hey,
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Speaker 2: maybe Julane Maxwell has a point. Just tell you what's
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Speaker 2: the documents? People like, buckle up. That's what you're gonna
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Speaker 2: read is hundreds and hundreds of pages of lawyers being like, well,
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Speaker 2: if you're telling the truth, how come you had a boyfriend?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 2: And then there's like interviews with the boyfriend did we
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Speaker 2: know she worked at mar A Lago.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I had not heard that.
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Speaker 2: I feel like somehow that detail completely escaped me. But
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Speaker 2: Virginia Geoffrey, her dad worked at mar A Lago and
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Speaker 2: he got her a job as a masseuse mar A Lago,
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Speaker 2: and that's where she met Julane Maxwell was while working
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Speaker 2: at mar A Lago. And somehow these fucking numbskulls still
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Speaker 2: are like, what's Trump's in office, We're gonna get all
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Speaker 2: them pedophiles grip.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I detail when we go through
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Speaker 3: the list of names.
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Speaker 2: That's the other thing that is suspicious as fuck to me.
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Speaker 2: There's like no Republicans. It's like, get the fuck out
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Speaker 2: of here. No Republicans come on. So, yeah, the first
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Speaker 2: hundred or so pages is just that. Up next there's
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Speaker 2: a list of evidence entered into the record on Maxwell's behalf,
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Speaker 2: and then all of that evidence, some of it is
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Speaker 2: just daily mail articles, which that's where Virginia Geoffrey's claims
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Speaker 2: come from. She's also the girl who accused Prince Andrew
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Speaker 2: of being a pedophile. There's that famous photo that some
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Speaker 2: people say is fake. Some people say it's been proven real.
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Speaker 2: I personally don't care if the entire British royal family
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Speaker 2: goes down for pedophilia.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Prince Andrew, he was such a spry and
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Speaker 3: handsome man. I can't imagine he would need to resort
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Speaker 3: to these things.
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Speaker 2: I know, crazy, right, he.
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Speaker 3: Was so alive when he was alive.
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Speaker 2: We should mention though. People have been making a big
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Speaker 2: deal about Stephen Hawking ending up on this cast, and
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Speaker 2: in her allegations, Virginia Geoffrey did also say a world
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Speaker 2: renowned scientist, she was trafficked too, And it's like, who
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Speaker 2: am I to assume Stephen Hawking couldn't have sex?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would be able us to say
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Speaker 3: that he can't do just sure exactly. It does seem unlikely,
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Speaker 3: but it seems we knows.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to speculate on Stephen Hawking having sex at all yet.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we'll get there.
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Speaker 3: We will be speculating.
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Speaker 2: And I know if it was a child, I shouldn't
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Speaker 2: say having sex. That's very different thing.
22:09
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know, look, we're gonna be We're gonna
22:12
Speaker 3: be using imperfect terms.
22:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, flying by the seat of our pants here,
22:16
Speaker 2: this just came out. Me and Olivia have only been
22:18
Speaker 2: living with these documents for a few days, and I
22:22
Speaker 2: think that's the right term for it.
22:24
Speaker 3: Yes, I have been living with I printed them out
22:27
Speaker 3: and I've been sleeping with them.
22:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them all hung up on the wall,
22:31
Speaker 2: two thousand pages. It's like my entire house. But so,
22:35
Speaker 2: there are some interesting things in the different evidence exhibits.
22:41
Speaker 2: There's a Virginia Geoffrey's records from when she filed to
22:45
Speaker 2: join the lawsuit that was seeking to overturn Epstein's initial
22:49
Speaker 2: plea deal. This is where a lot of the more
22:52
Speaker 2: salacious Alan Dershowitz stuff comes from. She doesn't like tell
22:57
Speaker 2: us what his dick looks like, but she does specified
23:00
Speaker 2: different places and locations where she was forced to have
23:05
Speaker 2: sex with him. And it's also claimed in this part
23:09
Speaker 2: of the records that Julane Maxwell not only took pictures
23:15
Speaker 2: of naked underage girls but also distributed them like she
23:19
Speaker 2: was a distributor of child porn right and that the
23:22
Speaker 2: government knew about it and was in possession of some
23:26
Speaker 2: of the pictures. That's one of Virginia Geoffrey's claims, which.
23:31
Speaker 3: I don't know. We don't know. Probably, I mean, she's
23:36
Speaker 3: a she seems like a pretty nasty person, so I
23:39
Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily put it past her.
23:41
Speaker 2: No.
23:42
Speaker 3: No.
23:42
Speaker 2: This is also where the first claims about Prince Andrew
23:45
Speaker 2: come from. French model scout Jean Luke Brunel is also
23:49
Speaker 2: accused in this filing. He's accused of like kind of
23:53
Speaker 2: running a sex trafficking operation of his own, which I
23:57
Speaker 2: don't know where a French model scout would get access
24:00
Speaker 2: to enough young girls.
24:02
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I just have never heard of
24:04
Speaker 3: a French model scout being creepy. I know, it's which
24:08
Speaker 3: is so so unusual.
24:10
Speaker 2: That industry in general is usually just on the up and.
24:14
Speaker 3: Up right, usually so above board.
24:17
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is this is the part where I
24:20
Speaker 2: have the mar A Lago question in the notes. I
24:22
Speaker 2: feel like that would have been a bigger deal, Like,
24:25
Speaker 2: I mean, it has to have been public knowledge by now,
24:28
Speaker 2: but I just don't remember hearing yeah, oh yeah. Also,
24:32
Speaker 2: like one of the main accusers worked at Trump's resort,
24:36
Speaker 2: Trump's home, the man lives at mar A Lago. He
24:39
Speaker 2: does that was the White House when he was in office.
24:42
Speaker 3: It was basically, yes, very strange. I had not heard it. Yeah,
24:47
Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised it's not a bigger deal.
24:50
Speaker 2: It's probably unimportant. I mean, I'm sure it doesn't relate
24:55
Speaker 2: at all, like who cares?
24:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, though there's no there's no core. Coral
25:00
Speaker 3: does not equal causation.
25:02
Speaker 2: And yeah, mar A Lago actually brings up an interesting
25:09
Speaker 2: point when it comes to documents like these, if you
25:12
Speaker 2: do want to read stuff like this for yourself, don't
25:15
Speaker 2: go in intimidated by the number of pages. Like, yeah,
25:18
Speaker 2: there are dozens and dozens and dozens of pages in
25:23
Speaker 2: these documents that are just mar A Lago employee manuals.
25:28
Speaker 3: It's not like it's a two thousand page novel, right.
25:32
Speaker 2: So there's a lot that you can just skip over.
25:36
Speaker 2: And like I've at this point in the notes, We've
25:40
Speaker 2: got about two and a half pages of notes, and
25:42
Speaker 2: I was four hundred and thirty pages into the document
25:46
Speaker 2: by this point, so there's a lot of fluff. I
25:50
Speaker 2: think a lot of the names that have been referenced
25:52
Speaker 2: in these documents come from the flight logs of Epstein's pilot,
25:57
Speaker 2: David Rogers, which those are all so included in these documents.
26:02
Speaker 2: They're kind of hard to read. Here's what I find interesting.
26:06
Speaker 2: All of the stuff that like you would want to
26:09
Speaker 2: really scour for details in these documents, the pages are
26:13
Speaker 2: the wrong way. So like, imagine you're reading a book.
26:17
Speaker 2: Now turn it like forty five degrees clockwise or counterclockwise
26:21
Speaker 2: either way, and now try to keep reading it like
26:24
Speaker 2: you can, but it's gonna be weird reading like up
26:28
Speaker 2: and down instead of just left to right like we
26:31
Speaker 2: normally do. Sure, I mean, if you're on the tablet,
26:35
Speaker 2: you could like lock it and turn it and still
26:37
Speaker 2: be able to read it. But all the stuff you'd
26:39
Speaker 2: really want to be able to scour in this is
26:42
Speaker 2: like positioned weird to make it. And they don't have
26:46
Speaker 2: like at least in the documents will link to. There's
26:49
Speaker 2: no like controls to like flip the page. I even
26:53
Speaker 2: downloaded one of them and put it in a photo
26:56
Speaker 2: editing thing and still didn't have the option.
26:59
Speaker 3: They're really not taking the user experience into account when
27:02
Speaker 3: they're when they're publishing these things.
27:04
Speaker 2: They're not. And so these flight logs, there is one
27:07
Speaker 2: page where Bill Gates name just could not be bigger,
27:09
Speaker 2: like it might as well be a clashing gift, like
27:13
Speaker 2: it's pretty great Bill Gates, but I think this is
27:17
Speaker 2: where a lot of those names come from. And those
27:22
Speaker 2: flight logs are included along with a deposition of David Rogers.
27:27
Speaker 2: That is just page after page of questions about what
27:33
Speaker 2: the numbers on the tail of an airplane mean, because
27:40
Speaker 2: that I mean they're trying to like make connections and
27:43
Speaker 2: like prove Virginia Geoffrey's story like correlates with these flight logs. Sure,
27:49
Speaker 2: but it is dry, a fading that shit ed. Nope,
27:55
Speaker 2: not even that, Like I just I've blacked out, Like
27:59
Speaker 2: I just I zoned out reading that. Yeah. I think
28:04
Speaker 2: one of the more interesting interviews in this is there's
28:09
Speaker 2: an Epstein employee named Juan Alisi. But it's not interesting
28:13
Speaker 2: in the way people are gonna want it to be.
28:16
Speaker 2: What wan Alisi claims is that Jeffrey Epstein basically had
28:21
Speaker 2: a massage table in like every room of his house
28:25
Speaker 2: and just like doled out massages to people as gifts.
28:29
Speaker 2: He said there was like fifty to one hundred massuses
28:33
Speaker 2: who worked at the Epstein residence, like they would rotate.
28:36
Speaker 2: They weren't just like all there like a fucking rug army.
28:42
Speaker 2: And he claims that this team of massuses ranged in
28:46
Speaker 2: age from what he assumed was eighteen like all the
28:50
Speaker 2: way up to forty, men and women both. He said
28:55
Speaker 2: he was gifted a massage from a male massuse in
28:58
Speaker 2: his forties once, and he actually backs up Alan Dershowitz's claim,
29:05
Speaker 2: which is, yes, I got a massage at Jeffrey Epstein's
29:09
Speaker 2: house and it was from a woman named Olga who
29:11
Speaker 2: was in her forties, and wan Alisi actually backs that up.
29:16
Speaker 2: He says, yes, I saw Alan Dershowitz getting a massage
29:19
Speaker 2: and it was from like a woman, like an adult woman.
29:24
Speaker 2: He also was.
29:25
Speaker 3: That was the only one he got.
29:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, you gotta please understand, I'm telling you what's
29:32
Speaker 2: in the documents. I am not advocating for Alan Dershowitz here,
29:38
Speaker 2: but it is interesting that this guy does back that up.
29:42
Speaker 2: He also says this statement from Virginia Geoffrey's court filing
29:47
Speaker 2: is a lie. Here's quote Elisi was able to identify
29:52
Speaker 2: a photograph of miss Geoffrey as someone who was at
29:55
Speaker 2: the mansion at the same time as Dershowitz. He says
29:58
Speaker 2: that is not correct, and that comes in these documents
30:04
Speaker 2: right before the Virginia Geoffrey deposition where she says the
30:08
Speaker 2: thing about being trafficked to foreign presidents was actually not true.
30:12
Speaker 2: There's also a very frustrating detail in that she says
30:16
Speaker 2: she kept a diary of all of her comings and
30:19
Speaker 2: goings around this time, including all of the people she
30:23
Speaker 2: was trafficked to and what she was forced to do,
30:25
Speaker 2: and she says she burnt it in twenty thirteen.
30:28
Speaker 3: Sure, cool, cool, cool cool. Well that's helpful.
30:32
Speaker 2: So there is something in the first seven hundred or
30:35
Speaker 2: so pages, which is how far ahead we've jumped already,
30:40
Speaker 2: that I do want to talk about a little more,
30:42
Speaker 2: but I'll have to do it on a future episode,
30:44
Speaker 2: and that would be Exhibit KK, which is the manuscript
30:50
Speaker 2: Virginia Geoffrey wrote about her time as a Jeffrey Epstein
30:56
Speaker 2: sex slave. She was attempting to turn it into a book.
30:59
Speaker 2: That's a whole part of Julane Maxwell's defense also is
31:03
Speaker 2: that this woman's just trying to get a book deal.
31:05
Speaker 2: It covers pages six hundred and ninety six all the
31:07
Speaker 2: way through seven sixty six, and those are two book
31:11
Speaker 2: pages each, so it's about one hundred and thirty hundred
31:16
Speaker 2: and forty pages. Yeah, and again every page positioned wrong,
31:22
Speaker 2: like you have to either like twist your head, turn
31:25
Speaker 2: your like pick up your laptop and hold it, you know,
31:30
Speaker 2: like you can still read it. But it's a hassle.
31:32
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna read it and do like a
31:34
Speaker 2: solo bonus episode about it next week. I mean, unless
31:37
Speaker 2: you also want to read Virginia Jeffrey's manuscon.
31:40
Speaker 3: I mean, I am intrigued, but not really. No, I
31:45
Speaker 3: have other things I need to do.
31:48
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of other things you need to do in
31:50
Speaker 2: the meantime, let's talk about the list of names that
31:54
Speaker 2: is from this release of documents. Finally, what we've all
31:59
Speaker 2: been waiting for.
32:00
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, here we go are baseless accusations.
32:06
Speaker 2: So excited, this is.
32:07
Speaker 3: What I've been waiting for.
32:09
Speaker 2: And so one thing you have to take into account
32:12
Speaker 2: along with everything the court warned about, which is like, hey,
32:16
Speaker 2: you don't want to necessarily report on this because you
32:20
Speaker 2: might be committing libel.
32:22
Speaker 3: Right.
32:22
Speaker 2: The other thing you have to take into account is, again,
32:27
Speaker 2: just because a name is in these court records absolutely
32:31
Speaker 2: does not. One doesn't mean they're a pedophile. Two doesn't
32:35
Speaker 2: mean they're associated with Jeffrey Epstein at all.
32:39
Speaker 3: Right, And that's why we're here to tell you which
32:41
Speaker 3: ones are.
32:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're here to like, really I think, say definitively
32:47
Speaker 2: which these people are pedophiles. We're going to go through
32:50
Speaker 2: the list.
32:51
Speaker 3: Legal disclaimer, this is all for entertainment purposes.
32:54
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And as we launch into it, we're reading
33:00
Speaker 2: a list from The Independent, which is a yes outlet,
33:04
Speaker 2: and the video of Trump and Epstein at that party
33:07
Speaker 2: where they're like both pointing at probably tweens that Yeah,
33:12
Speaker 2: like Trump's given like the AOK sign. Oh man, all right,
33:16
Speaker 2: let's get to this league too. Julane Maxwell obviously, I
33:19
Speaker 2: think so. I think Prince Andrew yes, probably, yeah.
33:28
Speaker 3: Bill Clinton absolutely.
33:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would I would say probably Donald Trump
33:34
Speaker 2: obvious more than anyone. Yeah, number one on the list exactly,
33:41
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, sure, why not?
33:43
Speaker 4: Yeah?
33:43
Speaker 2: Where's shes getting that adrenochrome from? If not from.
33:46
Speaker 3: Kids, she's holding them down?
33:49
Speaker 2: This was a curveball. David Copperfield, Yeah, the magician, David copper.
33:57
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, why.
34:00
Speaker 2: Would he just not make these allegations disappear Like I'm
34:06
Speaker 2: starting to doubt his magic just by seeing his name
34:09
Speaker 2: on this.
34:09
Speaker 3: List exactly exactly. That's what that's what makes it so suspect.
34:14
Speaker 2: I just love the idea of a reporter walking up
34:17
Speaker 2: to him and being like, David Copperfield, can you explain
34:19
Speaker 2: why your name's on this list? And he just takes
34:21
Speaker 2: the list and rubs it and holds it up. His
34:24
Speaker 2: name's not on it anymore? What do you mean? Perfect
34:29
Speaker 2: camera shows up? It's great, John Connolly, Now I'm gonna
34:34
Speaker 2: say the first part of his description, right, new York
34:37
Speaker 2: police detectives. At that point he got me, sure, why not?
34:42
Speaker 2: But New York police detective turned investigative journalist who investigated Epstein.
34:50
Speaker 2: So that is a good example. Acab all the same,
34:54
Speaker 2: But that is a fine example of how not every
34:58
Speaker 2: name in this isn necessarily tied to Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile
35:03
Speaker 2: ring as a consumer client. Yeah, that's probably a better word.
35:08
Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz, Sure, sure, yes, absolutely, this one. This isn't
35:14
Speaker 2: a surprise, is it. Leonardo DiCaprio, I'm gonna say no,
35:20
Speaker 2: I'm saying no, I'm defending Leo. Yeah, I'm gonna defend
35:24
Speaker 2: him too, because he does like he dates young that's.
35:28
Speaker 3: Exactly for sure. That's what makes it easy, right, but
35:32
Speaker 3: like like he can just do that exactly, yes, right,
35:37
Speaker 3: He could date legal young people.
35:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, like women in their early twenties are great, and
35:42
Speaker 2: I'm sure Leonardo DiCaprio has a great time dating them.
35:47
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I'm I can't convict the guy
35:50
Speaker 3: for being an insecure middle aged man.
35:52
Speaker 1: Right.
35:53
Speaker 2: How about al Gore?
35:54
Speaker 3: This one's tough because you know, he is a member
35:57
Speaker 3: of the government and so culpable. But I don't know,
36:01
Speaker 3: he seems kind of chill, right. Has he done anything
36:04
Speaker 3: really bad lately?
36:06
Speaker 2: Not really?
36:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, he mostly is just on the environment. Tip.
36:11
Speaker 2: I like that the Independent is and pretty much every
36:17
Speaker 2: outlet is just giving us these lists with no context, right,
36:22
Speaker 2: Like if they know these names are in the lists, like,
36:27
Speaker 2: would it kill them to put a like one line
36:30
Speaker 2: to tell us what it says or.
36:32
Speaker 3: This was from a flight log, this is from a
36:36
Speaker 3: testimony or whatever.
36:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of irresponsible of them.
36:42
Speaker 3: I would say, mildly irresponsible. But I would also say
36:45
Speaker 3: that most the way that this entire case has been
36:48
Speaker 3: handled in the press is pretty irresponsible, And to that extent,
36:52
Speaker 3: that's why we are coming down hard and definitively stating
36:56
Speaker 3: whether or not these people are pedophiles.
36:59
Speaker 2: Like Richard Branson.
37:01
Speaker 3: Listen, Richard Branson.
37:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the list. Here's the thing. I met
37:06
Speaker 2: Richard Branson and he was very nice. I met him
37:10
Speaker 2: at the Virgin Music Festival, is called Virgin So.
37:19
Speaker 3: Suspicious.
37:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Richard Branson. I'm gonna say no
37:26
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. Here's the thing. Richard Branson doesn't
37:29
Speaker 2: need Jeffrey Epstein to procure young girls for illegal means.
37:34
Speaker 2: He's Richard Branson. He's got an island like Mariah Carey
37:38
Speaker 2: very famously was like just renting his island when he
37:41
Speaker 2: did his episode of MTV Cribs. Like, I feel like
37:45
Speaker 2: Branson could just run his own sex trafficking ring.
37:49
Speaker 3: Maybe he does.
37:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe so Yeah, I guess that's a maybe.
37:53
Speaker 2: I guess that's a maybe. From us here it is
37:57
Speaker 2: Stephen Hawking.
37:58
Speaker 3: Stephen Hawking, Steve Been. I'm gonna say no. It just
38:05
Speaker 3: doesn't seem plausible, and not because he's disabled, but just
38:10
Speaker 3: because it doesn't seem like it's part of his vibe.
38:14
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
38:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be shocking like I did, like.
38:18
Speaker 3: His wife did he yes?
38:22
Speaker 4: Wow?
38:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also who cares?
38:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Up next, Ehud Barak former Israeli
38:30
Speaker 2: Prime Minister.
38:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, sure, why not fuck him?
38:35
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, thank you, musician known as the King of pop. Yeah, yes,
38:40
Speaker 2: I don't know.
38:42
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if he had any
38:45
Speaker 3: weird relationship with children. We'll have to investigate that further.
38:50
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, I obviously can't prove it. I'd
38:54
Speaker 2: have to file like a Foyer request, and that's a
38:56
Speaker 2: great way to get on the government's radar more than
38:58
Speaker 2: you want to be. But I have for a long
39:01
Speaker 2: time suspected Michael Jackson probably had. I mean, I don't
39:06
Speaker 2: think he was like a CIA agent, but I guarantee
39:09
Speaker 2: you the government was hitting him up when he was
39:12
Speaker 2: like the only person who could go to every fucking
39:16
Speaker 2: country on Earth. Like there was a point in history
39:19
Speaker 2: I was alive for it where Michael Jackson was just
39:23
Speaker 2: globally seen as this force for peace and harmony in
39:28
Speaker 2: the world, and he could go to any country and
39:32
Speaker 2: the leader of that country would just openly embrace him.
39:37
Speaker 2: Who was the first person, first American performer in Russia
39:40
Speaker 2: after the Wall fell. It's fucking Michael Jackson, like the
39:44
Speaker 2: first major concert and like, yeah, like no one else
39:48
Speaker 2: had the access he had, and man, he was never
39:52
Speaker 2: really taken to task for all the pedophilia stuff, Like, no,
39:58
Speaker 2: he went on to.
39:58
Speaker 3: Die, Yeah he did and then he died. He did die,
40:02
Speaker 3: and so uh that you know, that is the ultimate
40:06
Speaker 3: accountability when you think about it.
40:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we all die, but we don't all.
40:13
Speaker 3: That never thanks to be seen. I want to say,
40:16
Speaker 3: I just can't believe that Kevin Spacey would be involved
40:19
Speaker 3: in anything like this.
40:20
Speaker 2: Are we just just jumping over Marvin Minsky because we
40:23
Speaker 2: don't know who that is?
40:25
Speaker 3: Is that don.
40:27
Speaker 2: That's kind of a cool name. He's an artificial intence pioneer,
40:31
Speaker 2: So yeah, probably, but actually I think he's sure. I
40:34
Speaker 2: think he's one who's like really pushed back and like
40:37
Speaker 2: maybe proved that he wasn't actually involved.
40:41
Speaker 3: But good Kevin space I don't know who he is.
40:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Spacey, No, no way, come on that guy,
40:50
Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey.
40:51
Speaker 3: Yeah probably, Well you're gonna tell me next, you're gonna
40:54
Speaker 3: tell me Brian Singers on this list, like, come.
40:57
Speaker 2: On, shockingly, he's not right.
41:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is actually kind of funny.
41:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, some notable names missing from this list. Where's R Kelly?
41:07
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's in the closet.
41:12
Speaker 2: And also, I think R Kelly same same rule as
41:15
Speaker 2: Richard Branson applies. R Kelly's like, I don't need your
41:19
Speaker 2: sex trafficking ring happening in my studio right.
41:22
Speaker 3: Now, exactly same with same with Brian Singer. He's throwing
41:26
Speaker 3: those parties. He doesn't need this. Yeah, what about George Lucas,
41:32
Speaker 3: I'm saying definitively no, he is not.
41:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, George Lucas, if you have ever heard that man
41:41
Speaker 5: speak at length, just you just don't get the sense
41:45
Speaker 5: that he's a sex fiend, you.
41:47
Speaker 2: Know, Uh, Jean Luke Breunell, I'll just I'll just read
41:57
Speaker 2: you what the Independent has here. French model agency boss
42:00
Speaker 2: and alleged Epstein co conspirator who died in an apparent
42:05
Speaker 2: suicide while awaiting trial.
42:07
Speaker 4: What.
42:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, so two people from the Epstein.
42:12
Speaker 3: Two co conspiracors. Well, you know, look, you only get
42:15
Speaker 3: involved in something like this if you're on the brink.
42:19
Speaker 2: I guess crazy. Kate Blanchet, No, no.
42:24
Speaker 3: Right, no, no, absolutely not.
42:28
Speaker 2: Naomi Campbell. I'll tell you why. I mean this is
42:32
Speaker 2: this is an instant no for me because I know
42:34
Speaker 2: why her name comes up in Virginia Geoffrey's testimony at
42:39
Speaker 2: one point, and this speaks to how irresponsible they're being
42:43
Speaker 2: with reporting this. And in Virginia Geoffrey's testimony, which I
42:47
Speaker 2: read yesterday, she at one point they're grilling her about
42:51
Speaker 2: the dates when this all like one of the allegations
42:55
Speaker 2: she's making happened, and she says, I think it's around
42:59
Speaker 2: the time Naomi Campbell through her birthday party, and that's
43:04
Speaker 2: why Naomi Campbell is in here. And it's actually one
43:07
Speaker 2: of the things that Julaanne Maxwell I believe, I believe
43:10
Speaker 2: it's her defense team is like, that's not Naomi Campbell's birthday,
43:15
Speaker 2: Like those dates don't match. And so Naomi Campbell is
43:19
Speaker 2: on this list because her name is said in court right,
43:24
Speaker 2: not as a client of Jeffrey Epstein. And I feel
43:28
Speaker 2: like they got enough room to just mention.
43:30
Speaker 3: That here they should.
43:32
Speaker 2: Yes, Sharon Churcher, British journalist, she is not a pedophile.
43:37
Speaker 2: She is the woman Virginia Geoffrey was working with to
43:42
Speaker 2: write and sell her book. And she also, I believe
43:46
Speaker 2: wrote a bunch of the early Daily Mail articles.
43:50
Speaker 3: So yeah, they the Independent really should have been curating
43:54
Speaker 3: this list of names I think because first of all,
43:57
Speaker 3: we're not going to be able to get through all
43:58
Speaker 3: of them because there are so many names.
44:02
Speaker 2: There's insane there's a bunch of like regular ass people too,
44:07
Speaker 2: Like there's like doctors that Virginia Geoffrey was seen by
44:10
Speaker 2: and things like that. Right, that, like we're not going
44:13
Speaker 2: to say their names, gets to a point where they though.
44:17
Speaker 3: It gets still absolutely, but it does get to I
44:19
Speaker 3: just want to say, it gets to a point where
44:21
Speaker 3: they just stop giving like even minor context on these names,
44:27
Speaker 3: Like like half of the names don't even have descriptions.
44:31
Speaker 2: Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis, I'm gonna come down on No.
44:37
Speaker 2: I'm going to say no Bruno again.
44:39
Speaker 3: And not just because I like Bruce Willis as an actor,
44:41
Speaker 3: but because I mean he's got you know, he had
44:44
Speaker 3: a troubled past when he was still compost mensis compost menis. Yeah,
44:49
Speaker 3: but you know, I just this just never seemed like
44:53
Speaker 3: his vibe.
44:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico. That's another
44:58
Speaker 2: name that's been in this story for a long, long
45:02
Speaker 2: long time.
45:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck that guy.
45:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cameron Diaz. No, I mean again, no, Cameron Diaz
45:09
Speaker 2: isn't a pedophile. I don't get out of here, Jesus.
45:13
Speaker 2: Glenn Dubin, American hedge fund manager who was allegedly friends
45:17
Speaker 2: with Epstein.
45:18
Speaker 3: Right and his wife, Right, David, I'm gonna say, and
45:23
Speaker 3: you know what I'm gonna say. No, Okay, we're just
45:26
Speaker 3: gonna mix it up. Look, any hedge fund manager does
45:29
Speaker 3: not get my trust, is specially one who is friends
45:33
Speaker 3: with Epstein.
45:33
Speaker 2: If he's there with his wife, Like, I feel like
45:36
Speaker 2: that might have just been.
45:38
Speaker 3: Bill was there with his wife? Who Bill Clinton was
45:41
Speaker 3: there with his wife?
45:42
Speaker 2: That's true? True? Noam Chompsky.
45:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember this came out a while ago, in like,
45:51
Speaker 3: they released a teaser trailer for these documents a few
45:55
Speaker 3: months ago. Yeah, and no, Chomsky's name was mentioned. I'm
46:01
Speaker 3: in the middle on this one. I don't want it
46:03
Speaker 3: to be true because that would suck. Yeah, because he's
46:07
Speaker 3: a smart guy who is a great writer. But I mean,
46:12
Speaker 3: I can't necessarily he's one. Where as much as I
46:15
Speaker 3: don't want it to be true, I can't come out
46:17
Speaker 3: and just say it's definitely not true. I would need
46:21
Speaker 3: more information, and.
46:23
Speaker 2: I know, much to the disappointment of a lot of people,
46:26
Speaker 2: we are definitely nearing the end of the famous names.
46:31
Speaker 2: And yeah, in some cases we're stretching the definition of famous,
46:35
Speaker 2: like Tom Pritzker, American tycoon and philanthropist. Sure, yeah, and
46:39
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, yeah, I don't know about Tom Pritzker,
46:42
Speaker 2: but with the name with tycoon in your description, right,
46:46
Speaker 2: you're capable.
46:48
Speaker 3: And again, just to talk about I want to I
46:51
Speaker 3: want to say, just to like say the breadth of
46:54
Speaker 3: the names that are on this list. Later on this
46:57
Speaker 3: list is a Virginia Jeffrey. Yes, so I think again
47:01
Speaker 3: this is telling you that it's really a buckshot approach
47:05
Speaker 3: to names in this list.
47:07
Speaker 2: And we only really have three famous names left Chris Tucker,
47:10
Speaker 2: who we've already talked about.
47:12
Speaker 3: Yeah he's not Sarah.
47:13
Speaker 2: Ferguson, Duchess of York, former wife of Prince Andrew. Which
47:18
Speaker 2: there's your explanation for why she would be named in
47:21
Speaker 2: this exactly like her name probably just came up, right.
47:25
Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy Junior, h relevant to the Times.
47:36
Speaker 3: This will be a yeah, guy, Yeah, this will.
47:39
Speaker 2: Be interesting as twenty twenty four carries on, because here's
47:43
Speaker 2: the thing. We talked about it on another episode. RFK
47:46
Speaker 2: Junior polling really well in a three way race, and
47:50
Speaker 2: he has declared he's running as an independent. And this
47:54
Speaker 2: is the America we want. It's good. Like we're all
47:57
Speaker 2: worried about Trump and Biden and now we're gonna have
48:01
Speaker 2: RFK Junior for our next president unless Jeffrey Epstein can
48:06
Speaker 2: stop him.
48:06
Speaker 3: Isn't it great that of the three leading presidential candidates,
48:11
Speaker 3: two of them are known associates of Jeffrey Epstein. That's
48:16
Speaker 3: so cool, isn't that awesome? And one of them is
48:19
Speaker 3: a convicted felon.
48:21
Speaker 2: That's right, you say so?
48:24
Speaker 5: Yeah?
48:24
Speaker 2: From there, there's a lot of names like just regular
48:28
Speaker 2: ass people like James Ostrich. I think he was like
48:30
Speaker 2: a doctor.
48:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about what about Dave Rogers, private jet pilot forste.
48:37
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like we know, we know he's named in
48:40
Speaker 2: this and yeah, like they have the names of like
48:44
Speaker 2: Epstein accusers. There's a celebrity hairstylist.
48:49
Speaker 3: Epstein, Mark Zepp, New York decorator.
48:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, Epstein's butler, Virginia Geoffrey. Like Olivia just said, Crystal Figueroa.
48:58
Speaker 2: Anthony Figaroa. Anthony Figureo was Virginia Robert's boyfriend who is
49:03
Speaker 2: also Virginia Geoffrey, Crystal is his sister. Like there's from there,
49:08
Speaker 2: It's like we really have I'm just kind of scanning
49:12
Speaker 2: to see if there's any other like recognizable names and
49:15
Speaker 2: not really Joe Cardano. That sounds like a guy who
49:19
Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL, but that guy's name is Chuck
49:22
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's even a coach anymore. Yeah,
49:24
Speaker 2: there's some cops they're probably guilty of something. Oh yeah yeah,
49:29
Speaker 2: and then the rest like it's really an underwhelming list,
49:34
Speaker 2: although they do throw Lex Wexner way down at the bottom,
49:37
Speaker 2: founder of L Brands and a former business partner of Epstein.
49:41
Speaker 2: Am I crazy that he's like the one guy who
49:44
Speaker 2: actually let Epstein like publicly handle his money because remember
49:50
Speaker 2: Epstein had one client like as a money guy, right,
49:54
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to find it, but I
49:56
Speaker 2: think it was Lex Wexner.
49:57
Speaker 3: I mean, it is the thing where it's Ark's off
50:00
Speaker 3: so strong with such big names and then kind of
50:03
Speaker 3: peters out pretty quickly.
50:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the end, you're just looking for cool names
50:08
Speaker 2: like doctor Wah wah and that's just a physician who
50:12
Speaker 2: treated Virginia Geoffrey and is also named after a very
50:16
Speaker 2: famous guitar pedal. So, yeah, the list of names isn't
50:20
Speaker 2: I would argue it's not it's not that interesting and
50:23
Speaker 2: there's nothing that new, right, Like it seems like the
50:27
Speaker 2: Stephen Hawking thing maybe, but.
50:29
Speaker 3: That I had not I had not heard his name
50:31
Speaker 3: before these documents, or Kate Blanchett, yeah, and or George Lucas,
50:38
Speaker 3: like those are the big surprises, and then you're and
50:39
Speaker 3: you think about it and you're like, well, those don't
50:41
Speaker 3: really make any sense.
50:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there are going to be some people
50:44
Speaker 2: who they're just around. This's got new people. He was
50:47
Speaker 2: all over the price. So I think that's our episode, right, yeah,
50:51
Speaker 2: I think so. I apologize if any of our QAnon
50:55
Speaker 2: listeners were hoping this episode was going to kick off
50:58
Speaker 2: the storm and we were gonna name a bunch of
51:01
Speaker 2: Democrats and liberal famous people who should be eaten. But
51:06
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, these do means just didn't turn out that way.
51:09
Speaker 3: Well, let's just take a moment now to kick off
51:11
Speaker 3: the storm. This is it. We're kicking off the storm now.
51:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, storm has commences, all right, fucking go do it?
51:24
Speaker 2: Do it? Whatever?
51:25
Speaker 1: No?
51:25
Speaker 3: Actually, fun boogloo boys.
51:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Hey, thanks for uh, thanks for doing thanks
51:32
Speaker 2: for doing the pod as always.
51:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is great. I'm always happy to talk
51:37
Speaker 3: about uh, my good pal Jeff.
51:40
Speaker 2: I hope so because we might do another of these.
51:43
Speaker 2: I still have approximately thirteen hundred pages of documents to
51:47
Speaker 2: go through. There's got to be something fun in there.
51:50
Speaker 3: Probably. I bet there's some bombshells.
51:52
Speaker 2: What if there's like we wrote off like Cameron Diaz
51:55
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get like page eighteen eighty five and
51:58
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be graphic details about Cameron Diaz just
52:02
Speaker 2: brutally abusing kids.
52:05
Speaker 3: I would hate that.
52:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hate that a whole lot. It's probably
52:08
Speaker 2: not going to be that. It's probably gonna someone Someone's
52:11
Speaker 2: gonna be like yeah, and then we watched there's something
52:13
Speaker 2: about Mary. Yeah you didn't want to tell us that
52:19
Speaker 2: that was why she's mentioned Cameron Das. Go read the
52:23
Speaker 2: documents for yourself to find out why. Yeah, so I
52:27
Speaker 2: think we can get out of here. We did it. Yeah,
52:29
Speaker 2: what do we have to plug? I would like if
52:31
Speaker 2: people would go read my substack Adam Todd Brown dot
52:34
Speaker 2: substack dot com and that's all I got. Well Instagram
52:37
Speaker 2: Adam Todd brown talk with one. Yeah, follow me there, Olivia.
52:40
Speaker 2: What do you got to plug?
52:42
Speaker 3: I mean, not much. I'm on Twitter high. The other
52:46
Speaker 3: than that, I don't care.
52:49
Speaker 2: Cares, you know. Yeah, all right, let's get the fuck
52:52
Speaker 2: out of here, Olivia say goodbye bye, goodbye everybody. We
52:56
Speaker 2: love you.
53:01
Speaker 4: People of Earth. Your planets have to be destroyed. Strict
53:15
Speaker 4: your planets have to be destroyed.