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Special Forces: Transform Your Life with This Advice – Insights by Jay Morton · Motivation Mindset Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I've just always been someone who can put one foot
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  Speaker 1: in front of the other. I remember running off the
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: back of the helicopter and you know, that was the
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: first time that I heard the crack and thump of
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: a round flying over your head. Lives short, and life's
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: even shorter when you're shooting bullets at each other. There's
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: kind of RPGs flying over our head. Machine gun fire.
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  Speaker 1: Energy is something we've all got, right, We're all giving
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: off some sort of energy. I remember just running to
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: this wall and just getting down behind this wall, and
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  Speaker 1: we all just looked at each other and just went, well,
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: this is it. So my name is Jay Morton x
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  Speaker 1: X Special Forces XSAS, and I come from Preston. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really someone that got into trouble a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but I think kind of looking back, I was just bored,
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: just bored of the topics that we're getting taught. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really like school, and at the time, when you
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: were a young kid, you don't understand why, but it's
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  Speaker 1: literally that it's a lack of stimulation. And that transferred
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  Speaker 1: onto when I went to college. After I left school,
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  Speaker 1: I went to study sport and yeah, like again, like
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed playing sport, but like nine of the time was
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  Speaker 1: sat in a classroom in a cage, and you know
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  Speaker 1: that's not where I'm supposed to be, so like quit
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  Speaker 1: after a year. Then I just got stuck in dead
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  Speaker 1: end jobs working in factories. And I had a job
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  Speaker 1: making uPVC glass windows and a job as a delivery driver.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, that kind of sparked my interesting in going
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  Speaker 1: into the military. Like I've always been into fitness or
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  Speaker 1: pushing myself, like even as a kid, Like I was
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  Speaker 1: the one that was going out running when I was
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  Speaker 1: at school. You know, I remember like my parents or
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: I remember a but you know, for Christmas, I wanted
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: like the weights bench out of Argos, right, and the
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  Speaker 1: set of weights, and I was like thirteen years old,
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  Speaker 1: just trying to get massive, just doing everything completely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So like from an early age, I kind of found
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  Speaker 1: comfort in pushing myself. I think human beings are just
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: pre programmed to just take the easy option. And the
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: world we live in right now just gives so many
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: options to being. Like we live in a house, right
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to feel the weather outside of the elements,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's no rain, Like we've all got a
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  Speaker 1: warm bed to sleep in. We've all got cash in
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  Speaker 1: the bank, whether we work or not. You walk down
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  Speaker 1: to the shops or getting your transport vehicle, your car.
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  Speaker 1: It's like everything's easy, right, Like life is set up
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  Speaker 1: to be easy, and so it's more about just you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's by no one's fault that everyone just ends up
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  Speaker 1: living the easiest life that they possibly can and just
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  Speaker 1: and you know that that monotonous kind of life that
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  Speaker 1: everyone just seems to fit into right, leave school, get grades,
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  Speaker 1: go to college, get a levels, study, get to university,
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  Speaker 1: and then get that nine to five job, like earn
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  Speaker 1: a load of cash, save up for your retirement, retire
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  Speaker 1: have that mortgage in that car, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you've got to be able to pull away
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  Speaker 1: from that and try and understand why everyone's doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone's doing it just because everyone else is doing it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not a reason to be doing stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got to like say, well, what do I want
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  Speaker 1: in life? What do I want to do? And you know,
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  Speaker 1: for me, the military gave me a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: answers because it was something completely different. I think even
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  Speaker 1: just go into war in a battle, of being involved
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  Speaker 1: in combat, you know, you grow up in a different
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  Speaker 1: way and you get to see the world in a
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  Speaker 1: different way. I always thought that I wasn't set out
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  Speaker 1: for the normal life, do you know. We have this
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  Speaker 1: vision of a normal life where you get up in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, you kiss your wife goodbye and wave goodbye
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  Speaker 1: to your kids, and set off on your nine to
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  Speaker 1: five job on the trainer in the car, and you
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  Speaker 1: work for those eight or nine hours during the day
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  Speaker 1: and then finish and then come home and go to
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  Speaker 1: bed and then repeat that. I don't know, like I
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  Speaker 1: always I always kind of knew deep down that like
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  Speaker 1: that life would just not entertain me from the start.
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  Speaker 1: Even now, I think, you know, that good feeling or
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  Speaker 1: that good instinct is is generally how I navigate through life.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think the more you do it
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  Speaker 1: and the more you actually follow that good feeling and
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  Speaker 1: and listen to it, the more in tune you get
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  Speaker 1: to it. But back then, you know, sixteen seventeen years old,
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  Speaker 1: it was I don't know, Like I I've always had
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  Speaker 1: it in that like I'm competitive, right, I've always wanted to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, secretly or or whatever, just be better than
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  Speaker 1: the people around me, because I never I guess I
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  Speaker 1: never had that growing up. Like I was quite a
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  Speaker 1: chunky kid and quite a shy kid. So I've always
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  Speaker 1: just had this this thing that's followed me around. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've always had this like vision of myself following me
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  Speaker 1: around that I'm just this shy, chunky kid that I
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  Speaker 1: was when I was younger, and I've always just tried
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  Speaker 1: to get away from that throughout my life. Like I
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: was nineteen years old turning up at basic training, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, I still had that like element
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  Speaker 1: of that fat, shy kid that was like chasing me around.
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  Speaker 1: So like when I turned up, I remember turning up
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  Speaker 1: at the train station and I remember looking around at
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  Speaker 1: the other lads and just thinking some some big, big
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  Speaker 1: lads or but like but everyone looks stronger and fitter
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  Speaker 1: than you, or like more confident, or you know, you
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  Speaker 1: just have this perception of them and they're probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking back now, they're doing exactly the same. They're looking
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  Speaker 1: at you going like fucked, Like these guys are stronger
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  Speaker 1: fitter than me. I think it's just something that humans
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  Speaker 1: have got ingrained into am. You turn up as a civilian,
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  Speaker 1: you know, wide eyed, eager, get your head shaved and
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  Speaker 1: and you leave as as a soldier and it takes
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  Speaker 1: six months. I kind of shocked myself getting through that
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  Speaker 1: because I was never I was never the fittest, like,
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  Speaker 1: I was never the strongest. I was never at the
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  Speaker 1: front like. And we used to do these exercises where
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you'd be it'd be warm up before we
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: went on a tab and the PTIs would you know,
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: point to a tree and just say right, everyone to
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  Speaker 1: that tree and back, last last ten, go again. And
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  Speaker 1: I'd always been that last ten, and then it'd be right,
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  Speaker 1: go again, last five, go again, and I'd always been
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  Speaker 1: that last five. But I kind of like I had
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a theory around that, and then I
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  Speaker 1: guess because I was never the fittest, never the strongest,
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  Speaker 1: but I've always completed stuff and always hung on. So
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  Speaker 1: I've always been used to being, you know, in that
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  Speaker 1: fatigue state, like that's quite normal for me, which, as
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  Speaker 1: we all know, that builds resilience and that builds a
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  Speaker 1: stronger mind and body. Whereas the front runners, they were
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  Speaker 1: just used to, you know, running at their normal pace
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  Speaker 1: and just being okay with that. So you know, when
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: you deployed to places like the jungle or some of
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  Speaker 1: these harsher environments where everyone is on that level of fatigue.
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  Speaker 1: Like for me, it was just normal, and you'd see
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  Speaker 1: some of the fittest people just fall over and you know,
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  Speaker 1: collapse with heat stroke or you know, just not be
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  Speaker 1: able to carry on just because of the conditions. Do
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: you know what, Like my head goes empty when you're
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  Speaker 1: in that dark place. I've just always been someone who
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: can put one foot in front of the other. And
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  Speaker 1: I think if you break down any mental or physical challenge,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a case of progression. And as long as
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  Speaker 1: you can keep that momentum and keep that progression going forward,
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  Speaker 1: you'll get to where you need to go.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever had a point in time where you've
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  Speaker 2: obviously applied that method one foot in front of the other,
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  Speaker 2: but you felt like me, I couldn't put that next
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  Speaker 2: foot in front of the other foot.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, I like going back to again like I'm
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  Speaker 1: in my comfort zone when I'm went on fatigued, So
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  Speaker 1: you know that I just know that I can just
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  Speaker 1: keep you break it down, right, and it's just one
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  Speaker 1: step and then the next step is just one step
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  Speaker 1: and just you know, forget about where it is that
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  Speaker 1: you need to go and just concentrate on that next step,
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  Speaker 1: and like the rest is just time and time moves right,
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  Speaker 1: time ticks down, and then eventually you just find yourself
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  Speaker 1: in that position, you know. I joined the Powers I
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  Speaker 1: was nineteen years old, deployed to Iraq. I was twenty
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  Speaker 1: deployed to Afghanistan in two thousand and six, I was
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, and yeah, like we got involved in like
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  Speaker 1: heavy fighting pretty early on, and like twenty one years old,
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  Speaker 1: like all your mates are still doing the same thing
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  Speaker 1: that they're doing back at home, and you grow up
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  Speaker 1: very quick. It's a different kind of education. And then
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  Speaker 1: I think, kind of you, like you're full of testosterone
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  Speaker 1: when you're twenty one years old, aren't you, And you
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  Speaker 1: know you almost I don't know, you kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to be in battle, but at the same time, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want the bad. You don't want the negative aspects
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  Speaker 1: of it, Like you don't want to see your mates
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  Speaker 1: die or anyone die for that reason on your side.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the older you get, like the more
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  Speaker 1: wiser you get, and the more you're able to like
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  Speaker 1: listen to your body and mind more and just like
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  Speaker 1: understand more about I guess what you want and where
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  Speaker 1: you fit into into combat. And I guess like the
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  Speaker 1: the further on in my career was more of just
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  Speaker 1: like seeing what human beings are just capable of doing
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  Speaker 1: to each other. And again, you can look at that
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  Speaker 1: in like a really negative way, but I kind of
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  Speaker 1: I looked at it as a positive. And just because
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: you know, life short, and life's even shorter when you're
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  Speaker 1: shooting bullets at each other. So it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's kids or whatever, or young people or all
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  Speaker 1: these people dying and it's like they're all living in
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  Speaker 1: this like hell whole kind of thing. And it was
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  Speaker 1: for me, it was more about, you know, it taught me.
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  Speaker 1: It taught me more about just how I want to
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  Speaker 1: live my life outside of that area and understanding that
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  Speaker 1: life's short and you do what you do what you
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  Speaker 1: do to make you happy, and you follow those things
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  Speaker 1: instead of you know what we say about like following
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  Speaker 1: that normal life dream. Energy is something we've all got, right,
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  Speaker 1: We're all giving off some sort of energy. You know,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: I call it drains and radiators. Like people are either
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: a drain or or they're a radiator. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: always know that drain. When you're around that person, you
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  Speaker 1: generally they come away feeling drained, right, That's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: They negative people. They're the kind of people that make
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: excuses for what they're doing, whether they're wearing the wrong
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  Speaker 1: boots or you know, they're not our breakfast that morning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're drains, right, And I think the more you're
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: around those people, the more you feel it. And then
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  Speaker 1: you've got radiators, and radiators radiate energy, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a radiator you know when you're around someone because they're
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  Speaker 1: positive people. They've always got your back, they've always got
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  Speaker 1: new ideas, they're always doing stuff, they're always wanting to
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  Speaker 1: move forward. And I think the more you can be
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  Speaker 1: around radiators and the less you can be around drains, like,
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  Speaker 1: the better energy is going to be. Right. Positive mindset
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  Speaker 1: is important, just seeing things in a positive way. You've
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: only got to turn the media and news on now
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  Speaker 1: to be swarmed with negative and it's about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with good people having goals and ambitions and
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  Speaker 1: seeing every fucker and failure is just a positive. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everything's there to learn, everything's put in front of you
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  Speaker 1: to learn from and it's how you view the world. Right.
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  Speaker 1: If you view the world in a positive mindset, and
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  Speaker 1: you're always going to be moving forward, you're always going
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  Speaker 1: to be creating and meeting good people. On that two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and six tour of Afghanistan, so the first time
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  Speaker 1: that I came under contact, we deployed to a place
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  Speaker 1: called Nao Zad. We had a patrols platoon that were
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: already stationed there doing some reki stuff, and we literally
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: landed on these landed in these H forty seven helicopters.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I remember running off the back of the cooped her
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  Speaker 1: and you know, that was the first time that I
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: heard the crack and thump of a round flying over
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  Speaker 1: your head and we just run into this massive scrap
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: that the patrol's lads were in. So there's kind of
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: RPGs flying over our head, machine gun fire, and we
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: just looked at each other and just burst out and laughter,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah. I remember just running to this wall and
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: just getting down behind this wall and we all just
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: looked at each other and just went, well, this is it,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it? Like this is it started? And that was
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: a long day, Like you know, I think we're in
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: contact for say six to eight hours, and personally, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think once you get over the like once you
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: get over the first reaction of the first round that's
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: been fired and the first round that you've heard, the
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: rest of it just all sounds sounds the same, Like
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: you're in that moment then, and the rest is just
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  Speaker 1: about thinking logically about how you combat that situation and
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: how you get out of situation. Like I've felt fear
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  Speaker 1: before in the past, and yeah, like fear generally only
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  Speaker 1: happens for like a short period of time because there's
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  Speaker 1: usually a logical explanation that you can put to why
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: you're feeling that fear, whether it's around that's just cracked
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  Speaker 1: over your head or something that's just exploded, or you know,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: maybe there's some rock fall on a mountain, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: a moment to be scared, right, but there's a logical
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  Speaker 1: explanation for it, and there's usually an action that you
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: can take which is going to get you out of
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  Speaker 1: that fear feeling and get you to some sort of safety.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to break it down that way. I
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: think kind of the things that scare me more than
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: than those dangerous kind of things are just you know,
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  Speaker 1: like living a stagnant life or living a boring life,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: like boredom and mediocrity fit like scare me way more
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: than than climbing out risk or being shot at. And
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I think, like I'd hate to just get to the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: age of like eighty or ninety years old or one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and just turn back and just think that I've
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: wasted time. It could be quite intimidating when you first start,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: because especially me, like I was twenty four when I
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  Speaker 1: passed selection, and like the rest of the guys in
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: my troop were all you know, late thirties, early forties,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: they're all men, and yeah, so it's quite intimidating. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: they've already got high standards, right, They've been using all
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the kit and equipment and doing runouts way before I've
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: turned up. So it's you know, I've now like I've
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: done a six month course, right, which is selection, But
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that I'm a Special Forces soldier Like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that comes after, like when you start training with the teams,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: when you start learning different crafts. The selection is like
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a race of attrition, and you generally start with around
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy in
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the first three weeks you're probably down to around fifty
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  Speaker 1: and then you go out on the next phase and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you know you could come back with say twenty twenty
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: five people, which is probably a good a good course,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and then the rest of it's just training to get
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you ready to join during the squadron. I think for me,
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  Speaker 1: like I enjoyed selection, Like there wasn't one day when
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I woke up and just went that I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be here. It was more just about It was
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: more just about, you know, just proving to myself that
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  Speaker 1: I could get through each day. And I kind of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: found enjoyment in seeing people fall off. I think a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: lot of people do as not in a bad way, right,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't rub anyone's face in it, but when you're
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: doing things that are difficult and you've got an easy
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: option to get out, you can just walk off and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: package it and go. You'll be in a warm shower
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and bath and you know, whatever food you want, so
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it's easy to quit, which makes it you know, the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: majority of people do quit. I think when that happens,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: like you see their weakness and it pumps you, puts
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you up a level, right, puts you up a level
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  Speaker 1: of puts your strength up a little bit. As the
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: less able members, the less able soldiers start to drop off,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you end up with a tight knit bunch of guys
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that have all been through the same shit and you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: form bonds through those Through those dark times, you can'tact
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: it with a bit of humor. At the end, you're
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: left with a good group of ads. I think failure
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: is something that you should be seeking because to do
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: anything that puts you out of your comfort zone, you're
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: going to fuck up every now and then, and that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: is you know, that's failure, right. You know you shouldn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: aim to fail, but you know, failure should be a
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: byproduct of what you're doing, because like I look back
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: at some of the stuff I've done that I've I've
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you know, what you would see is my biggest failures
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  Speaker 1: in life, and that's where you learn the most. Like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you learn the big lessons right from failing, just like
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: listening to myself instead of listening to other people, I
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: think as well, like everything that you see is being hard.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I think you know, when you start making progress, it
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: starts opening doors, right, and then those doors open other doors,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and then those other doors open other doors. And you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: in no time you've kind of gone through different journeys
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and passed and ended up in places that you never
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: thought you would do. Just start small. You've got to
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: like be honest with yourself, right, it's your choice, Like
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it's your life, like no one else is gonna change it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So you've got to make that decision. You know, if
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you're not happy with your life and you wanna change it,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: then then do it right. And and and I don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: know what that is, what what anyone else is feeling,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: but you know, if you start small and whether it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you you wanna get in shape, like start walking,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: start trying to create habits that are that are healthy
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: for your body and for your mind, you know, start
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: walking during a gym, during classes. Put yourself in these
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: situations and this is where you grow, right cause you're
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation. And my uncomfortable situation
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: is completely different to someone else's uncomfortable situation. And you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you could say that a million times over. And career
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: is like a big one, right, Like that's the that's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the that's the comfiest thing that people have is a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: career and money coming in because that's you know, without money,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like the chances of being homeless and not being able
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to pay for food for your kids and your family,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's the biggest fear, right And I can't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: tell anyone to change that. You know, You've just got
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to ask yourself whether that's something that you want to change.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: We live in a normal world where people associate their
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: skills to the job role they've got or the qualifications
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that they've got in university of college. Whereas like like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I've gone gone and set tasks up in certain countries.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That's the same as setting a business up right, It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just different in a way. You've just got to look
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for different things. You've got to look for connections, you've
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: got a network, you've got to buy assets or you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: buy things in and get people to do stuff here.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: And that's the same in business. The two are the same.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So it's more about just understanding what you can do
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: as a person, because it's way more than what you
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: think it is. And you just get led to believe
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that all you can do is that nine to five
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: or that job that you've got, whereas actually, like we
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: live in such a world where you can just log
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: onto a computer and learn anything that you want to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: learn and reskill yourself in anything. It's so easy, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: going back to what we were saying before, it's like
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the world's an easy place to live in. And I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: don't think the human bodies set up to not feel struggle.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You know, We've struggled all our life, right And if
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you think the reason why we're all sat in these
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: buildings and eating good food is because we struggled in
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the past, and that struggle has generated systems and put
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: things in place. And now we've built supermarkets and cars,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but that all came from struggle. So good things come
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: from struggle, but it's hard to find it these days.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You know. It goes back to what I was saying before.
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  Speaker 1: It's like struggle could just be going for a run,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: or struggle could be reading a book. You just doing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: something difficult, like when I was that shy kid, Like
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: struggle for me was just having a conversation with someone.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But like the more I do it, the better I become.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you can look back in ten years
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and just go like, fuck, I used to have a
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: conversation with someone. Now I can walk into a room
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and speak to everyone openly and confidently. Like that's what
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you get from struggle, right. I think fitness and exercise
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: is the easiest and best way to just find some
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: sort of struggle. And it's manageable, right, It's manageable. It's easy.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: You join a gym, you go out for a run,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and you've got something to work for. If you start running,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you can work up to a five k ten k marathon.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It's measurable. You've got goals that you can tick off.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: If you're going into a gym, you can start lifting
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: heavy and you've got you've got a measurement, right that
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you can go off that you can see yourself getting
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: better at something. Sports the same, like like I surf,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Like I can feel my every time I go surfing
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: getting better and better and better. And that's a good feeling.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And then you'll notice in other areas of your life
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that you know, changes will happen. And whether it's you know, confidence,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: or whether it's in the workplace, or whether it's in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a relationship, whether it's just your general happiness. Like the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: more of these things that you do, when you're developing
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: yourself and getting better and better, everything changes. I think
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: if you want to go anywhere in life, you've got
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to make some sort of sacrifice. You know, if you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: think that you've got that safe, comfortable job right now,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: there's going to be certain things that you're gonna have
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice. Whether it's friendships, you know, whether it's with
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: loved ones, whether it's with family. But if you want
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to if you want to live back, live life by
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: your terms, you've got to make these sacrifices. Even if
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you've got an excuse, you just don't say it, because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: no one likes someone who uses excuses. It's just weakness.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Mmmm. It sounds like you've had a career and in
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: them in that career you've learned many lessons through stories
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: or experiences and then you're kind of putting them onto
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: paper through your own perspective of things that you've learned.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But in terms of your career or even maybe your life,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what do you think the hardest lesson you learned.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Was hardest lesson I've learned? H Listen to yourself. Yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I listen to yourself before you listen to anyone else.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna go into the story cause it's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's not for this, but yeah, I learned the hard
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: way and a certain experience, or I listened to someone
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: else and something went wrong when I knew what I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: should have been doing and I should have listened to myself.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And you're you know yourself the outcome or what you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: want the outcome to be. So yeah, just listening to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: yourself a little bit more like I have to own
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that I listen to someone else, which is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: even worse, which plagues you're right, But then you learn
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: those lessons the hard way and like what you're saying,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like you know yourself where you want to go right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It's like when you ask someone their opinion of something,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you already have the answer in your own head. You
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just like you're just trying to find clarification or you
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: just want them to agree with you so that you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: can go ahead and do it. It's important to find
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: purpose and everything that you do right, and that's you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: it's just important. It's as important as it is in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: your career or in your fitness regime or your motivation
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: because I guess like purpose brings momentum and me personally,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: like if I'm not moving forward and I'm stale, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's like that's my worst nightmare. You know, we're all
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: searching for some sort of momentum and progress in life,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and you get that from just sticking one foot in
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: front of the other. Whether it's fitness, whether it's career,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: just keep moving forward.