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Huddle Up Podcast: Tuesday, May 31 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shadrick, John Ojer and NFL Network
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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest
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Speaker 1: on your Jackson pill Jaguars. Everything's got to be about
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Speaker 1: the future, has gotta be about tomorrow and bringing all
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Speaker 1: that into focus as we you know, attached the season
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into
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Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Tuesday, May thirty. First,
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Speaker 1: Safety Shadrick with NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot
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Speaker 1: Com senior writer John Oser, and give us a listen
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Speaker 1: official Jaguars Podcast network that's on iHeart Radio, Apple, Spotify,
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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. John. All right, first,
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Speaker 1: I'm missing mazes to be sitting here with Bucky. I
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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out how to phrase it, but
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Speaker 1: he's here in person, he's here. It's a shock to
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Speaker 1: be doing this without Bucky's car involved, you know, Like
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Speaker 1: it's tough for me because I'm so used to doing
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Speaker 1: the podcast with you guys, with Luna, my dog in
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Speaker 1: the background doing something across. Yeah, the neighbors dog kind
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Speaker 1: of rustling up, trying to get Luna all worked up.
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Speaker 1: Luna's ever either right at my side or just kind
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Speaker 1: of milling around the house making noise. But I told
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Speaker 1: her I gotta leave for a little bit because I
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Speaker 1: gotta see. Yeah, I guess see what she's been talking about.
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Speaker 1: I've been reading about it all on Jaguars. I kind
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Speaker 1: of I was like, I gotta come in here and
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Speaker 1: see what it is that we're talking about. And so
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Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to kind of cast my eyes
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars for the first time this year, and
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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Well, let's start with Doug Peterson today. Then
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Speaker 1: we'll get your thoughts about what you saw, Bucky. Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson asked John By you, you know, after week one
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Speaker 1: of O T A S, what are your impressions of
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Speaker 1: this football team? It was a good week you know
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Speaker 1: for us. Um again, it was the first time really
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Speaker 1: since that first minicamp several weeks ago, to be you
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Speaker 1: know out there and the way the way I've got
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Speaker 1: to set up you know. Um, We're working some first
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Speaker 1: and second down, some third down, some red zone stuff
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Speaker 1: and throughout the course of the week. So we're throwing
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Speaker 1: a lot at the guys. And right now, the guys
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Speaker 1: have really handled the information. They've taken it from the
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Speaker 1: classroom to the practice field and and that's really what
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Speaker 1: we want to see. Right now. You can't see physicality
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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff and tackling and all
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Speaker 1: that yet, but um, you know, the guys are they're
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Speaker 1: moving in the right way, they're they're practicing fast, they're
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Speaker 1: they're protecting each other, and that's what we want to see.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I want to see this time year. Alright,
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Speaker 1: So Bucky, after that answer and then seeing what you
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Speaker 1: saw today, well what do you see today? Well, I'm
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Speaker 1: beginning to see what Doug talked about, like the number
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Speaker 1: one thing that you're looking for when you go to
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Speaker 1: these practices. You can't really evaluate the physicality, you can't
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Speaker 1: really evaluate some of the toughness part of the game.
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Speaker 1: But what you can evaluate is who knows exactly what
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Speaker 1: they're doing, who can exhibit the kind of effort that
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Speaker 1: you want to see. Are the guys paying attention to
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Speaker 1: the details that have been expressed in the classroom, meaning
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Speaker 1: they understand what they're being asked to do they understand
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Speaker 1: why they're doing it and then they go and do
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Speaker 1: it on the grass And I think we could see
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Speaker 1: some of that, and so for me, a lot of
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Speaker 1: it was the organization of practice. Does this team look
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Speaker 1: organized dually, look like they're paying attention to detail. Do
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Speaker 1: they look like a team that can play and play
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Speaker 1: good football? Yes, they do look like a team that
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Speaker 1: can play is good football. And that is a huge
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Speaker 1: step in the right direction when we think about the
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Speaker 1: way this team has played in the past few years.
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Speaker 1: Some highlight guys to me today. You know, I always
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Speaker 1: hesitate to highlight guys during this time of year. But
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk looks fast, and an Ingram looks fast. Dan
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Speaker 1: Arnold looks like a player that Bucky's talking about, like
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Speaker 1: he knows where he supposed to be. That's because he
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Speaker 1: had a nice play down the scene. If he hadn't
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Speaker 1: had a nice play down the scene that we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, probably not. But overall, I agree with Bucky.
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Speaker 1: They're the starters who all three of those guys, I
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Speaker 1: would assume we're gonna play key, key roles, maybe the
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Speaker 1: three key roles in this offense. They all look like
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Speaker 1: they're on the same page as Trevor Lawrence. I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of Bucky. You know, you're not surprised to see that,
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Speaker 1: but you're glad to see that as opposed to not
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Speaker 1: seeing what Bucky's talking about. The as we talked about
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Speaker 1: the last three or four weeks. It only really happens
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Speaker 1: this time of year. Is if you're not seeing certain
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Speaker 1: things you're really concerned. So far, I think you're seeing
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Speaker 1: what you want to see out of this team. I
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Speaker 1: think offensively, and to make it I think we should
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Speaker 1: break it up offense and defense. So I would say offensively.
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Speaker 1: The first thing, your eyes go right naturally to the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences. First time I've seen Trevor throw since the
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Speaker 1: end of the season, and so and watching him, we
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Speaker 1: talked on the side what you want to see from
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Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks. One, when they're throwing, the ball doesn't hit
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Speaker 1: the ground. The ball doesn't hit the ground because there's
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Speaker 1: a level of execution and consistency between thrower and catchers
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Speaker 1: to be easy to tiny and easy. The ball doesn't
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Speaker 1: hit the ground. It looks like, um, they're in rhythm
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Speaker 1: and sinc And I saw that today. I saw what
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Speaker 1: I would deem to be a high level set of
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Speaker 1: execution up practices and what they're being asked to do
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Speaker 1: from Trevor. I wanted to see the ball in the
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Speaker 1: strike zone consistently. When we talk about the strike zone,
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Speaker 1: the strike zone is torso ball ways to hire inside
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Speaker 1: the window. The receivers are not having to work a
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Speaker 1: lot to make catches, and we're seeing that Trevor launch
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Speaker 1: is very accurate. We're seeing the ball come out with
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Speaker 1: plenty of pace and those things. And then the final
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Speaker 1: part of it is when you transition from doing individual
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Speaker 1: to group stuff and then competing against the team, does
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Speaker 1: Trevor know where to go with the ball and doesn't
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Speaker 1: know how to do it in a timing fashion. I
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Speaker 1: think we saw that even when they ramped it up
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Speaker 1: in seven or seven and nine on seven things against
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Speaker 1: the defense, he looked like he had a pretty clear
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Speaker 1: idea where to go. For a young quarterback entering in
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Speaker 1: the second year, those are the things that you want
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Speaker 1: to see, and I think he is trending in the
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Speaker 1: right direction. Yeah, And to that, I think this adds
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a significance to what Bucky said.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned to JP on the practice field today. We've
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Speaker 1: really only seen Trevor twice during this offseason, last Monday
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Speaker 1: and today, but it is striking that during the same
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Speaker 1: drills seven on seven, eleven on eleven um, when Trevor
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Speaker 1: throws it, he's throwing to the next level more often
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Speaker 1: than the younger guys. Uh. Is that because he has
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Speaker 1: confidence in his arm? Is that because he knows that,
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Speaker 1: uh where the play ought to be going? Whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: it shows me he has the ability to take that
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Speaker 1: first read the accuracy to do it. And I think
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Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball down field is what I'm getting at, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: and doing the things you're talking about, meaning it's easy
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Speaker 1: to throwing the strikes in when you're he's throwing some checkdowns,
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Speaker 1: but for the most part, he's going down field, doing
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Speaker 1: the things this offense wants him to do on a
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Speaker 1: consistent level, and throwing the strike zone. That combination to
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Speaker 1: me is critical. Yes. Critical. Part of that is his
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Speaker 1: experience for playing his entire rookie season. The game is
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Speaker 1: a little slore for him that some of the backups
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Speaker 1: who haven't had a lot of playing time experience. He sees,
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Speaker 1: he anticipates it and one of the things that young
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have to learn is they have to learn how
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Speaker 1: to we call it throwing guys open throwing in the windows.
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Speaker 1: The great quarterbacks let the ball go before the receiver
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Speaker 1: is well out of his He does, man. And you
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Speaker 1: don't want to get too excited about like a practice
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Speaker 1: in shirts and shorts and those things. But I think
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Speaker 1: to me it was confirmation that the guy that was
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Speaker 1: taken at the top of the board, he has the
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Speaker 1: talent to play like a guy that was taken at
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Speaker 1: the top of the board. And to me, that is encouraging.
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Speaker 1: And you also can see whatever it is that they're
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Speaker 1: doing from a playbook construction standpoint, it is obviously very
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Speaker 1: friendly to him because as you talked about, there wasn't
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Speaker 1: a lot of hesitation. There was a lot of hesitation
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Speaker 1: with him. Where do I go with the ball? He
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Speaker 1: knows exactly what to do, So I would a the
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Speaker 1: synergy between the coaches and the player. They're on the
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Speaker 1: right page, same page. Now, all that said, how do
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Speaker 1: you grave the defense on a day like today? So
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. There was a lot of intrigue to
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Speaker 1: me about the defense because I just didn't know what
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Speaker 1: I was going to see. Hasn't really been talked about,
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Speaker 1: like you hear theories about, oh this is a three
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Speaker 1: or four team, what are they doing? And I know
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Speaker 1: because John always tell a depth charts and all that,
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Speaker 1: we don't really know. But the first group that I
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Speaker 1: saw rolled out there where I saw Trey Ron walking
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Speaker 1: on one side. I saw Josh Ellen on the other
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Speaker 1: side standing up three or four defense, Yeah, I saw.
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Speaker 1: And on the inside I saw Devin Lloyd on the inside.
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay with esther front seven. Then in
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Speaker 1: the back end Cisco playing safety. Um, we saw a
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Speaker 1: Campbell at one corner. Now, but Rayshon Jenkins wasn't there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's been Dewey at that one spot. But again my
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Speaker 1: understanding is that's because the Jenkins was out at the
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Speaker 1: the last year and they're bringing him along slowly. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So and looking at the defense, first thing said out
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Speaker 1: they're bigger, bigger on the edges. Trayvon Walker is like
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Speaker 1: a giant on the pads. He is unbelievable sizewise. Secondly,
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Speaker 1: when those two guys are standing up, uh easily, what
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at his mic call. Will has certainly taken
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Speaker 1: the things they learned from Tie Bowls and if the
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Speaker 1: coverage holds up, this is a team that is going
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Speaker 1: to fix their issues with pressure. So I saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of what we call simulated pressures where you're only
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Speaker 1: bringing four four rushers were dropping seven, but you don't
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Speaker 1: know where the fourth work. Calling card right, simulated pressure,
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Speaker 1: zone blisses and those things. So we saw that. Then
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Speaker 1: I saw some zone pressures where you're seeing five come
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Speaker 1: any of the five, any combination of two linebackers, linebacker
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Speaker 1: and a safety member coming bringing pressure. They're playing zone
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Speaker 1: and man behind it, so it can be a high
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Speaker 1: pressure team. And then there was a lot of variety,
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Speaker 1: disguise multiplicity to what they were doing. But what I
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Speaker 1: loved about it, I didn't see coverage bus I didn't
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Speaker 1: see people just running scott free through the middle of
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Speaker 1: the defense where it doesn't look like who who do
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Speaker 1: I have? Who has whenever m Oh, you've always told
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Speaker 1: me about balls. Is defense simple to execute, complicated to
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Speaker 1: the offense. And so seeing that early, I'm really encouraged.
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Speaker 1: And this brings me to the Shay Townsend in the
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Speaker 1: back end. If you look at the background played in Pittsburgh,
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Speaker 1: cornerback coach the Saytownsend played in Pittsburgh under Dick Lebo.
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Speaker 1: Dig Lebo is the founding father of what we call
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Speaker 1: the zone blitz defense. For years and years, the Pittsburgh
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Speaker 1: Steelers dominated people with a complex blitz scheme with coverage
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Speaker 1: in the back end that kept the ball in front
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Speaker 1: and made a ton of place. The Shades experience maybe
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we haven't seen the bust
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Speaker 1: in the back end, because if you can tie the
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Speaker 1: back end with what they're doing in the front end
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Speaker 1: without mistakes, then you have an opportunity to be disruptive
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Speaker 1: but also be safe and sounding what you're doing. And
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new look.
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Speaker 1: In two join us at the bank this season is
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence lead the charge. Luck in
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Speaker 1: to figure out Buckey's schedule the rest of the week.
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Speaker 1: After this Welcome back, It's the Huddle Up podcast and
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Speaker 1: sticking around for the Tacos? Okay, so let me look
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Speaker 1: at my trusty calendar. The fourth is on a Saturday,
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Speaker 1: all day. That is a that is a long extension
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Speaker 1: of the state. Even though I am I am one
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Speaker 1: of the biggest fans of the Tacos JP. He's been
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Speaker 1: training for the fourth. You've been training your right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: for about thirty five years. Okay, so it's go time.
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Speaker 1: Started early, It's go time. It is almost time to
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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Your performance will be at a super this
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Speaker 1: JPS training camp. An Olympic champion does not become a
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Speaker 1: champion just showing up at the Olympics. Okay, that's the process,
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Speaker 1: building up like stamina to the actual event in four years.
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Speaker 1: I liked that man, the fourth man. I just need
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Speaker 1: to see if I can extend it out. Who else
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Speaker 1: is coming to be brothers brothers? Yeah, we got Dave Matthews,
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Speaker 1: we got Black Crows are coming up. Okay, I know,
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Speaker 1: I know. Two out of three, three out of four.
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, send you a video. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. The Black Crows, I'm not CROs were sort
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Speaker 1: of mid nineties, early two thousands, really good midnights, early midnighties. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and Shake Your Money Maker their classic out. How long
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Speaker 1: are you here? By the way, Well, you know I'm here.
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Speaker 1: You know, I know that we don't have access, but
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm hoping to fund angle the bird's eye view
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Speaker 1: from afar oh, kind of see what's going on. I
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Speaker 1: like that. Some more stuff you can get taken out
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Speaker 1: trying to do that. You might want to coordinate that
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Speaker 1: before we walk out. I don't know. I may not
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Speaker 1: see you again. I don't want to walk out there
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Speaker 1: and we're taken out. But I would love to see
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Speaker 1: this a little a little more. If now I'll just
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Speaker 1: come in and walking around now obviously just talking to
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Speaker 1: you guys, kind of poppy in, listen to the interviews
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Speaker 1: and read the brilliant writing that you have going on,
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Speaker 1: and just kind of game one side. I have a
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Speaker 1: question for the scout. Good idea he's here. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a if you've noticed one thing and this is said
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Speaker 1: without giving away precisely what he's doing in the offense.
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Speaker 1: But to me, Bucky, it's clear Evan Ingram and both
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Speaker 1: tight ends. But Evan Ingram really more than a tight
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Speaker 1: end in this offense, isn't he? Oh, he's the versatile guy.
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Speaker 1: I think if we go back and look at what
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson did in Philadelphia, I would expect Evan Ingram
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Speaker 1: to do a lot of what zach Ertz did in
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Speaker 1: that offense. He'll play outside, He'll playing the slot. He
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Speaker 1: is more of what I call a move tight in
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Speaker 1: a flex tight end, more so than your traditional wide
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Speaker 1: to stick his hand in the dirt, attached to the
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Speaker 1: hip of the offensive tackle. And it was key they
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Speaker 1: get somebody who could do that, right, Yeah, they needed somebody,
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Speaker 1: needed more weapons. And I think the thing that was telling,
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Speaker 1: and I know we're not talking about depth charge, but
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Speaker 1: at one point I saw a loven personnel package, which
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Speaker 1: is one running back, one tight end, three wide receivers
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Speaker 1: on the field. At that time, it was Travis at
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Speaker 1: the end, it was Evan Ingram, it was Za Jones,
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, and Christian Kirk. They went empty formation and
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Speaker 1: it was a very dangerous look based on the talent
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Speaker 1: that is on the field. How are you gonna match
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Speaker 1: up to that? Are you going to double anybody? Well,
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Speaker 1: anybody established themselves as a guy that needs a double team.
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Speaker 1: But because they're already doing some of those things, this
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Speaker 1: offense has an opportunity to tax the defense a little
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Speaker 1: differently than it did in the past because the personnel
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Speaker 1: is better than it had been the past. And I
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Speaker 1: will say this little conversation with Doug Peterson talked about
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Speaker 1: the personnel and all the uproar over Christian Kirk or whatever.
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Speaker 1: We've said this, and I told you that this is
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Speaker 1: a system where you don't need an A level receiver
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Speaker 1: to have a lot of success. Passed that and shared
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Speaker 1: that with him. He was like, just go back and
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Speaker 1: look at the twenty seventeen Eagles that went to the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. There was not a guy who had a
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Speaker 1: thousand yard uh and receiving, not a thousand yard rusher.
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Speaker 1: Yet that was a team that hoisted the trophy at
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Speaker 1: the end. We could venture to say that this unit
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Speaker 1: talent wise is on par with what he had in seventeen.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback plays great, this team should have more firepower, score
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Speaker 1: more points. Do you have it? More points? Than last year,
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Speaker 1: or more points than I mean, I think the three
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Speaker 1: of us could go and play. I'm not locking him
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Speaker 1: down a ball. But like we've talked about it, like
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Speaker 1: what does success I've heard you talk about like being
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Speaker 1: on the graphic the final month of the season. This
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Speaker 1: is a team that should be more competitive. This is
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Speaker 1: a team that I think the games will get into
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Then it's can you make enough winning
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Speaker 1: plays to be able to do it. But my expectation
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Speaker 1: I'm here in thirteen wins from you, I think I
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Speaker 1: think I think we have to set the over under
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Speaker 1: on seven. Seven would be a nice number. I would
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Speaker 1: skew towards a little bit over that if we put
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Speaker 1: it all together. But remember this is the part of
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Speaker 1: the year that we don't really like because we don't
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Speaker 1: have pads on, we're not playing real, real football. We
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Speaker 1: can speculate. But it looks good right now. But it
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Speaker 1: seems to fit I think what Bucky said, It seems
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Speaker 1: to fit what Doug likes as a coordinator, so I
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Speaker 1: mean as a play caller, and that's uh, it makes
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Speaker 1: sense that it would. But it is cool to see
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Speaker 1: it out in the field. There's a lot of weapons
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Speaker 1: run around that they are. That's a good thing, and
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Speaker 1: we'll hopefully see them progress as this o t A
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Speaker 1: schedule moves along the rest of this week, and then
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Speaker 1: we will be back out there on Monday of next
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Speaker 1: week for the final week of organized team activities. Bucky,
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Speaker 1: good to see you in person, No, man, it's great.
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Speaker 1: It's great to be here. JP exposed me to a
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Speaker 1: little coffee shop. I won't name it because it's not
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Speaker 1: a sponsor, but had a nice little coffee, had a
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Speaker 1: little Hello breakfast. I saw. I got a chance to
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Speaker 1: see JPS kind of like neighborhood. His haunts you haven't seen,
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Speaker 1: you haven't seen. So when he's giving me a he's
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Speaker 1: giving me, he's giving me a tough time. I kind
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Speaker 1: of understand how the finer side live. I remember when
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Speaker 1: I was talking about stamina a second ago. Just make
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Speaker 1: sure you have the proper stamina for that. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you do. John knows a little bit more
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Speaker 1: preparation for taco than Margot. That's fucking Brooks, John Osier.
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