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NFL DFS Week 6 Takedown Breakdown | Winning DraftKings Lineups & Strategy Review · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 3: ToeTag and Tambo, back for another edition of the Takedown
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  Speaker 3: Breakdown here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station, breaking
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  Speaker 3: down all the winners during week six classic slate. We'll
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  Speaker 3: be looking over on dfsos.com. You guys can use promo
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  Speaker 3: code SHIPIT there. If you want to get 50% off,
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  Speaker 3: it works out to about a dollar a day. You'll
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  Speaker 3: see all the tools. When we go through the show,
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  Speaker 3: got my guy, Matty Bellman here with me as usual,
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  Speaker 3: going to be breaking down the Millie makers from yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And then any of your questions in the chat, we
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  Speaker 3: always do like a little motivational Monday, mastermind Monday, Monday mindset.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 3: We were talking some stuff pre-show, but it was a
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  Speaker 3: huge week for the Ship It Nation community. So that's
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  Speaker 3: where the conversation started and stemmed from. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: that in a minute, but Mr. Bellman, what is going on,
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  Speaker 3: my friend? Monday morning, Matt, what's happening?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing, man.
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  Speaker 4: You know, regular stuff on a Monday morning. Happy to
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  Speaker 4: be here with you talking the.
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  Speaker 1: Week six breakdown. It feels just bizarre.
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  Speaker 4: We're already in week six, but here we are. We
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  Speaker 4: got one more game tonight, which should be, I think, interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday was not my best day in the DFS streets,
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  Speaker 4: but that's going to happen. You know, sometimes you're right
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes you're not. And yesterday was definitely a not
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  Speaker 4: for me. You know, that said, it was a weird slate.
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  Speaker 4: They all are like some guys you thought were no
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  Speaker 4: doubt smash plays. didn't smash and other guys that people
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  Speaker 4: weren't really on had good weeks and feels like that's
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  Speaker 4: just DFS in the nutshell, but happy to be on
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  Speaker 4: here talking it out with you.
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  Speaker 1: How's everything going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, man. I was shaking your hand, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: what is it?
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  Speaker 3: The handshake you do the air shake between the not
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  Speaker 3: a great day yesterday. It was awesome to see so
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  Speaker 3: many members get the job done. I've consistently have good,
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  Speaker 3: you know, cores at least over on the site and
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  Speaker 3: thoughts of like where I'm starting and where I'm at.
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  Speaker 3: They just haven't fully come through for me yet, but
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  Speaker 3: I still, like you said, we've got one more game tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're always talking about this.
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  Speaker 3: Nades and I've been doing this show for years, talking
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  Speaker 3: about how it's, it's only been a, if it's been
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  Speaker 3: a rough week for you, it's only been a rough
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  Speaker 3: week so far. We still have tonight to finish out
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  Speaker 3: week six, but I wanted to hit my goal, which
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  Speaker 3: was to win something big before week seven. Now, mind you,
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  Speaker 3: the good news is for me, week seven is coming
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  Speaker 3: right up next week. They've got the mid season main event, 150.
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  Speaker 3: It's the mid season warmup. I should say in week seven,
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  Speaker 3: which is the $ 150 buy in Millie and a smaller field.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 3: And then the week after that, November 1st, to kick
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  Speaker 3: off the month of November, they've got the mid-season main event, $ 1, 500 buy-in, 1.5
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  Speaker 3: million to first, insane prizes at the top of that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to do my best to get into
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  Speaker 3: as many of those lineups as I can. Now, I
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  Speaker 3: brought that up because the Ship and Nation community had
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  Speaker 3: a pretty big day. I didn't have it fully prepped
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  Speaker 3: and ready, but I've got some of it here so
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  Speaker 3: you guys can check it out. But the reason I
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  Speaker 3: bring this up is because our man Rick here, I
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  Speaker 3: got a few shout outs with this, but the big one,
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  Speaker 3: Max's Soda, we'll get to in a second.
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  Speaker 2: But with Rick, Rick shipped the luxury box for 15K.
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  Speaker 2: He also said, just.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys know, it's never over until it's, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're just getting started. We say it's six weeks in,
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  Speaker 3: it's one third, et cetera, et cetera, the 18 game
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  Speaker 3: regular season, but that's a ton of slates. Thanksgiving, all
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  Speaker 3: the different ones that we'll have on top. He said,
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  Speaker 3: been a tough start to the season. This one feels good. Tambo,
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  Speaker 3: would you like to donate a 1500? I would like
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  Speaker 3: to donate a $ 1, 500 ticket for the November 1st tournament
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about. So this week, what is special is
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  Speaker 3: in our ship it games contest.
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  Speaker 2: We have it every week. You just have to be
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  Speaker 2: an all access or an NFL only member. It's the
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  Speaker 2: community contest. No other communities giving money away like this.
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  Speaker 3: And then you got a guy like Rick from the
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  Speaker 3: community coming up over top, dropping a $ 1, 500 ticket. So
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  Speaker 3: this week, the golden shipper, not only will the top
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  Speaker 3: three get into the golden ship at finals and have the,
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  Speaker 3: you know, round one of the finals have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to play to get into the top 10 where you'll
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  Speaker 3: play for up to 12,000 in cash, but 1200 minimum.
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  Speaker 3: So similar prize pool, but they will, the winner of
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  Speaker 3: this week's golden shipper will also get a $ 1, 500 ticket
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  Speaker 3: to play in that mid season main event, courtesy of
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  Speaker 3: our man, Rick.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out to Rick. Love to see that.
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  Speaker 3: That's the community love we're always trying to show off there.
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  Speaker 3: We're giving away $ 50, 000. Our guy Sharks just put up $ 4, 800.
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  Speaker 2: That was amazing. We talked through that.
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  Speaker 3: And now you got Rick throwing up a $ 1, 500 ticket.
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  Speaker 3: But here were some of the other ones right here, Bellman.
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  Speaker 2: We had Max Soda. I talked about it off the top.
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  Speaker 2: three tickets plays about 200 bucks a week or less.
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  Speaker 3: He was just posting in the discord this morning about
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  Speaker 3: being disciplined and going back to playing the same 150,
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  Speaker 3: 200 bucks that he usually plays in a week. I
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  Speaker 3: told him he could treat himself a little bit, but
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  Speaker 3: you want to pick your spots for that. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Turned the three tickets into 50,000, 52,000 to be exact,
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  Speaker 3: and had a real shot at the Millie.
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  Speaker 2: We were sweating with them in the Discord. No salt
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  Speaker 2: and wound.
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  Speaker 3: We don't control the events or the outcomes, but that
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  Speaker 3: Tucker touchdown at the very end did not help his case. Again,
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  Speaker 3: turning those tickets from something to nothing into 52K. Congrats
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  Speaker 3: to you. Still a phenomenal job. Our guy Tom Brady
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  Speaker 3: is gray. Shipped the face mask for 50K. And then
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  Speaker 3: T Jones shipped the stiff arm for 500 bucks in
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  Speaker 3: the 10 K as well. So it was a pretty
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  Speaker 3: huge week for the community. Any, any first thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 3: We really love to see it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Massive week for the community really wanted that Millie maker win.
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  Speaker 4: But as you said, you, we don't control the outcomes.
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  Speaker 4: It's out of our control at that point. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be taken home. The DFS NFL
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  Speaker 4: gods had other ideas and hopefully next week is his week.
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  Speaker 1: Cause clearly his process is on point right now.
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  Speaker 4: My other thought is you mentioning the, your success going into,
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  Speaker 4: or lack thereof, I should say, going into week seven.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like last year, week seven, you had
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  Speaker 4: a monster week. Cause I feel like we talked about
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  Speaker 4: this and then like we let up with it. And
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  Speaker 4: then as soon as week seven had UM, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So there it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I got to win the, uh, the warmup event to
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  Speaker 3: get the Millie and then have even more tickets to
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  Speaker 3: attack the following and go back to back. What a,
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  Speaker 3: what a, uh, legacy piece it would be to go
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  Speaker 3: never win the Millie. Talk about it for years since
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  Speaker 3: way back in the day. And then I go on
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  Speaker 3: to win back to back Millies. That's the hope. But
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  Speaker 3: I promise you, I would just take one. So it's
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  Speaker 3: just a thing I want to check off at this point,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm having a lot of fun doing what I
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  Speaker 3: get to do. I love all you guys and your support.
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  Speaker 3: I do appreciate it. Just getting to hop on here,
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  Speaker 3: hang out with you on a Monday and talk through.
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  Speaker 3: This is one of the most fun parts of my week.
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  Speaker 3: Just going to see all this stuff. This is another
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  Speaker 3: fun part. Rick had said, appreciate all the tools. You
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  Speaker 3: guys talked about Blickle, Mayo, myself, Ship It Nation as
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  Speaker 3: a whole. So you guys are hands down the best
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  Speaker 3: in the DFS streets. Thanks for all you do. He
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  Speaker 3: had posted this before. He's a member over at dfsmastermind.com.
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  Speaker 3: He's also in the mentorship program. And he said, for
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  Speaker 3: anyone that wants to get better at DFS, DFS Mastermind
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  Speaker 3: is the only way to go. In one year, I
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  Speaker 3: have had five 20K plus scores. This stacks another on.
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  Speaker 3: I think there was a 50K before this as well.
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  Speaker 3: So he said seven now, five figure scores.
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  Speaker 2: And there's no promises.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a note when you do put your head down,
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  Speaker 3: put the work in, aim to actually get better at something,
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  Speaker 3: you can do that. And he says, before that, I
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  Speaker 3: had zero. Taught me process, bankroll management, contest selection, and more.
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  Speaker 3: Don't wait, sign up today. I mean, I said it here.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not a member, I'm not sure what you're
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  Speaker 3: up to. If you guys haven't seen dfsmastermind.com, you can
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  Speaker 3: just click join today. Even if you only spend less
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  Speaker 3: than a $ 50 single entry and get in one time,
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  Speaker 3: the DFS mind map one and two is 250 plus
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  Speaker 3: DFS players wrote me and said what they wanted me
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  Speaker 3: to create. Now in less than a nine to five shift,
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  Speaker 3: basically eight hours, you can take in the two modules.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't know what those look like, if
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  Speaker 3: you're behind the scenes or over at dfsmastermind.com, you can
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  Speaker 3: see they cover exactly what Rick said.
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  Speaker 2: There's the secrets of satellites.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Max Soda turning satellite tickets into $ 52, 000 and
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  Speaker 3: now back down to playing 160 bucks. So if you're
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  Speaker 3: playing even 100 bucks a week, 200 bucks a week,
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  Speaker 3: I talk about treating DFS like a business.
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  Speaker 2: This is a business decision.
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  Speaker 3: You can go and get training and get better and
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  Speaker 3: find this stuff out and jump over some of the
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  Speaker 3: hoops that you might be struggling with just in the
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  Speaker 3: $ 50 courses. And then if you get in the full
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  Speaker 3: one-time membership, you can get access to all of this stuff, right?
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  Speaker 2: The modules, the interviews you're in here, Belman. We did
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  Speaker 2: an interview, you and I, right?
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  Speaker 3: We broke it down and everything that you talked about
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  Speaker 3: with building good lineups and not just the plays MLB
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  Speaker 3: DFS process, um, important to get better, all that stuff
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  Speaker 3: that we actually talked about in our interview. You guys
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  Speaker 3: can go and check it out, but yeah, I digress.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into it for this week, man. Let's look
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  Speaker 3: at these Millie winners. We are using DFSOS.com. This lets
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  Speaker 3: you see how the best DFS players actually play. If
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: you go into Dashboard and you're a member, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: you can get in for 29 bucks a month with
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  Speaker 3: code SHIPIT. And somebody asked in our Discord, oh, I
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: want a bankroll tracker. Most bankroll trackers charge 29 bucks
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  Speaker 3: a month.
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  Speaker 2: You get that. You can find out the perfect lineup,
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  Speaker 2: which we're going to look at here first, right? You'll
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  Speaker 2: be able to see it.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: This is the past Sunday. We're going to the 18th here,
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  Speaker 2: my bad. Let's go to the, where's the main slate?
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  Speaker 2: I'm blind today. Sorry, Monday morning, you guys can tell,
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  Speaker 2: but here it is.
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  Speaker 3: The perfect lineup was one that didn't spend it all
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  Speaker 3: for once. That's the thing about yesterday's slate when you had,
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  Speaker 3: let's just talk about the grand scheme overview of the
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  Speaker 3: slate for a second, Bellman.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody missed, right? Bijan missed, Puka missed, Bowers missed.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody said in the afternoon, they're like, I had Stafford, Puka, Adams, Bowers,
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  Speaker 3: and something else. And I think they got more points
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  Speaker 3: off of somebody that scored like 15 points before the
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  Speaker 3: late game stuff. I mean, that was at the halftime,
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  Speaker 3: but still it was like, man, this is nuts right now.
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  Speaker 3: But what'd you think of the slate as a whole
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  Speaker 3: yesterday and how it played out?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I often talk about how slates can play out weird.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a perfect example of it. We might
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  Speaker 4: not have another one all year that plays out as
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  Speaker 4: funky as this one did with you mentioned it like
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  Speaker 4: B and Puka both failing in elite spots. That might
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  Speaker 4: be a once in a season type occurrence. Not that
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  Speaker 4: they're both always going to like smash, but the fact
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  Speaker 4: that they both outright failed, I know Puka got there
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, got some PPR cookies at the end,
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  Speaker 4: but really didn't matter. I mean, he was so high
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  Speaker 4: owned and winners didn't have him. So just bizarre turnouts yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: And it goes to your point. Like whenever you see
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  Speaker 4: an optimal lineup like this or a perfect lineup, I
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  Speaker 4: should say that is, you know, 2,400 less than full salary.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that stuff played out funky. You got really
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  Speaker 4: low on guys. Omar Cooper when Titans D is the
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  Speaker 4: highest scoring D on the slate at 2,300. Shout out
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  Speaker 4: my guy ham who liked them a lot, called them
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  Speaker 4: out on contrarian construction show.
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  Speaker 1: You know the slate was bizarre. You might be on mute.
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  Speaker 2: You got her, you got her.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't done that in a while. So again, you
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  Speaker 3: can tell Monday morning, feeling it here, really, really doing
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  Speaker 3: good stuff. But just noting it, I was saying about
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  Speaker 3: the Titans D, Ed Soham did have it pegged there,
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  Speaker 3: but the note was too, like nobody was really playing
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  Speaker 3: any Jonathan Taylor for the most part, right? Like people did,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll get to that in a second with the
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  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker stuff and the Bijon stuff and leverage and
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  Speaker 3: things that you could have done or pivots, I should say,
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  Speaker 3: in those spots.
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  Speaker 2: But just noting it, they were sandwiched.
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  Speaker 3: The Titans were right between the popular Panthers and the
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  Speaker 3: popular jets down low, but you could play the Titans
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  Speaker 3: and you weren't really, again, look, I know with the
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  Speaker 3: Warren news late, a lot of people got to like
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: a Keenan Allen and certain things like that. And there
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: was some Danny Jones shock or sorry, steam down the
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  Speaker 3: stretch and whatnot. But even then, if Danny Jones is
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  Speaker 3: going to pick up any steam, how about the defense
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  Speaker 3: against that? So it ended up working out for those
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  Speaker 3: people that did that. And then the same on fan
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  Speaker 3: duel title talked about it yesterday on the Sunday shipper show.
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  Speaker 3: The Buccaneers were $ 3, 200 and they did okay. I think
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  Speaker 3: they got seven points on FanDuel or eight points. They
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of sacks and different stuff going for them.
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  Speaker 3: But Aaron Rodgers with the comeback and the Jeremy Bernard
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  Speaker 3: touchdown late and got the win and all of that.
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  Speaker 3: But in the end, they were a hundred bucks less
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  Speaker 3: over there as well to go to Tennessee Titans. So
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  Speaker 3: sometimes just seeing where you're at and making that pivot,
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  Speaker 3: especially on something like a defense, definitely an interesting thing
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  Speaker 3: to find there. Not something that I think you're going
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  Speaker 3: to pull away. heavily or anything like crazy about this.
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  Speaker 3: Just noting that defense being one, the bigger standout for
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  Speaker 3: me though, was kind of what people said about Kenneth
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  Speaker 3: Walker all week. They said, Kenneth Walker and JT are
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  Speaker 3: just sitting there right underneath Bijan. And we know Bijan's
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  Speaker 3: getting the steam and Bijan's getting the ownership. And for
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, you know, people are excited about it and
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: all this stuff is like, We know why the opportunities,
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  Speaker 3: the spot at home, like everything was good for Bijan,
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  Speaker 3: but that was all baked into it.
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  Speaker 2: It had the ownership and all that.
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  Speaker 3: But even yesterday I kept talking about, I said, even
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  Speaker 3: some of those Caleb lineups, I liked Caleb, Rome, Loveland,
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  Speaker 3: with like a London, by the way, that didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: And then you could plug in like a Walker.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, there's going to be people just sitting
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  Speaker 3: there with no Bijan. And if he busts, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to feel so good sitting there with Walker. And again,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing if he put up this result that he did,
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  Speaker 3: it's just when big chalk bus, how good does it
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  Speaker 3: feel to have the guy sitting right there that you're
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  Speaker 3: like can really break this thing open. And that's what
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  Speaker 3: happened with Kenneth Walker yesterday, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what happened. And as you mentioned, it was
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  Speaker 4: talked about all week. I talked about it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Still didn't play enough of him. I mean, kind of
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  Speaker 4: how the cookie crumbles. There's so many good plays in
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  Speaker 4: any given slate. And I will say, peeling the onion
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  Speaker 4: a little bit here, the thing that really stands out
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  Speaker 4: to me with the perfect lineup is you've got Saints
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  Speaker 4: quarterback with no other Saints, and you've got two runbacks.
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  Speaker 4: So you've got two Giants weapons with no quarterback opposite
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  Speaker 4: the Saints quarterback with no weapons.
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  Speaker 1: Just bizarre turnout. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's typically... So first of all, that is the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I know, speaking of our guy Blickle earlier, he's got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of really good roster construction data. And one
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  Speaker 3: of the things he's seen that actually is profitable over time,
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  Speaker 3: surprisingly enough, for most at least, it shocked me a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, was playing a quarterback with two runbacks from
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  Speaker 3: the other side. Now, it's... Right, but let me get
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  Speaker 3: to it. It's more profitable if you play.
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  Speaker 3: With one and then two runbacks versus the, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody plays the obvious neighbors.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, they'll play Winston neighbors, likely Olave. That's the most common.
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  Speaker 2: And we get that.
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  Speaker 3: And that does show up a lot because everybody plays
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: and just saying it's when you see stuff like this,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: it could have been.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: And again, Olave didn't have the biggest day, just noting it.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: If you had went like shuck Olave neighbors likely because
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: you just like that side better. Most would go Winston
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: there and I get it, but it's, it's a way
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: you could do it to end up on it. And
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: sometimes it's because like one team is really locked in
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: on a guy like, um, Gino Smith, Garrett Wilson could
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: be a thing that you just play or like Joe
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Burrow and one of his expensive guys. Cause you just
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: don't want to pay them both off, but then you
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: pick up a running back and a wide receiver in
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the other game or sorry, the other side of that game,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: because you think that that can come through.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Now the weird part about yesterday and how.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: It worked out, by the way, pretty incredible stuff just
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: from a football perspective was JJ McCarthy gets into the game.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: And then I believe I'm, I could be way wrong.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: You guys know I'm off this morning a little bit,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: but just say, I think it was 243 or 234
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: yards in.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: The, in the end of the game. Like, was it
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: just the fourth quarter or what, what was the breakdown?
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: It was very insane.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: And somebody posted all the clips together this morning. It
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: was like, this is actually pretty wild on tape. Look,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: it's the saints, whatever you want to say. I don't care,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: but man, he was doing his thing out there, whipping
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: it around and slinging it. And everyone was coming through
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: for him. So who knows what we see moving forward.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: But I thought that was kind of crazy how he
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: got all these guys to their scores in the end
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: with neighbors and likely and everything they ended up putting up. Yeah.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Neighbors is a dude and likely obviously has a really
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: good connection with both quarterbacks. It seems, but that McCarthy
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: game was wild. I think you were right on the
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: money to 40 something, just in the fourth quarter, a
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: giant's record.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Rare to see.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Rarefied air. I wonder if he is going to be
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: their starter moving forward. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: sooner rather than later.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the latest is. If I
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: go over... Oh, we can check it after.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: But there's a news section here that I can just
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: pull it up. I want to finish with this one quickly, though.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But Bernard came through, even as popular as he was,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: likely came through as popular as he was. Neighbors came through.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: The rest, though, in this, and even when we get
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to the Millie Maker winning lineup, you'll see a little
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: bit weird there as well. But that's the type of
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: weeks we see. That's the type of things we see
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: when we see weeks like this.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Better way to word it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Um, anything else when it comes to this, just all
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I'm noting is like you said, when you see 47, six,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: to your point, you know, it was a bit of
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: a wonky week. Also two 36 in the optimal. Let's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: see what we see when we move over, but anything
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: else to add just from this perspective or anything else
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about here?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Just if you look even farther down at like the
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: next five optimal lineups, they're all basically the same except for,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you know, pits instead of likely.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So like the wide receivers are constant. Shuck is a constant.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's always fun.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And, you know, you wish hindsight were, well, hindsight is 2020.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: We wish we had this vision before the slate starts,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: but all we can do is learn from it going forward.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's what I wanted to point out too. Like, again,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: people always say, why do you even look at this?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: It's the perfect light.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. We're just looking for little things and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: how it affected the slate. Thoughts that you could think about.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I've mentioned a million times when we get new viewers
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: each week, a lot of people are just building by
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: hand and they're building 10, 20 or less lineups.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So a couple notes on that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: One is, These types of ideas are like, hey, if
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I land on, again, this is not even close to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: maxed out salary, but if you were hand-building yesterday and
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: you landed on.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: $ 2, 300, you.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Don't always just have to play the Jets because everyone
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: says they're the best play at $ 2, 200 and leave $ 100.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: You could play the Titans and say, well, I'm not
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: on Danny Jones. I'm not on Jonathan Taylor. I'm not
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: really worried about that offense. And that's how you could
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: just land on something like this.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: It's defense. Let's get something with some variance in there
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and take a risk. I'll play the Titans instead. That's
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: how you could end up on that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I had somebody DM me this morning that said, actually,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I did all right this week because I ended up
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: on a bunch of Titans D. I just didn't like
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the other cheap chalk defenses with the Jets and the Panthers.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: And I said, okay, so that makes sense. And then two,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: over at Shippenation, if you haven't seen it yet, we
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: talk about it, but some people don't even know what
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it is, the Stone 2.0.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: We did make it now. So not only about all
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the Shippen games and the extra stuff, but for our favorite...
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You know, hand builders out.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: There, you now have a tool where you can actually
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: go in and see the optimal rate, see the ownership,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: see the projection, see everything. You can optimize the lineup
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and say, okay, it's 154.4 points.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And this is what the lineup looks like.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And then you can clear it and go back and say,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: now I want to build something a little bit different.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I want to see what the Caleb lineup looks like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And in my Caleb lineup, I'm going to fade Bijan,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to play Kenneth Walker.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Like Tambo talked about.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'll leave Kyron out for now because he liked Corum,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: but I'm definitely interested in Burden. I like Odunze. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: like Loveland, and I'm just going to use up all
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: my wide receiver spots. Sorry, Loveland, and I'm going to
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: use up all my wide receiver spots with London. What
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: does that leave me? Okay, I got 4,500 bucks. Now
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to look at a defense and see what
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I think there. So let's say I go with, I'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: not playing... Um, who am I not playing? I'm not
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: playing likely or neighbors. Why don't I just go with
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the saints D there? They have a good optimal rate
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and they're the highest optimal. They're still good on the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: optimal rates, but there's no negative leverage there. Maybe I'll
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: plug them in. Now I've got 55, 50 to compare.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I got to play at least.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: One running back. I liked what they said about Chuba Hubbard.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: All right. That leaves me 4,800 bucks. I can play.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'm not, you know, I'm on the saints D
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I can play Algiers. Again, none of this fully worked out.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying you can start looking at your lineups
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and seeing what they would look like and pull them in.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: You can save them as well. And then they'll show
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: up in your saved lineups. And then you can even
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: download the CSV and take it right over. So even
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: for the hand builders, we've got something for you covered there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So let's go back. Let's quickly see the news. Is
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: there any news yet on McCarthy?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I just want to see. The latest was three hours ago.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Just the one-stop shop you have on DFS OS is
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: so nice.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I use it for everything now for that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I don't even use it for everything you're supposed to,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: or probably use it for, but for me to have
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: it all in one place, I really love that. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: we'll get into it more when we break down how
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: you can actually use the, the tagline or the headline
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of like, you'll see what the other DFS best player,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: best DFS players are doing, but I'm just trying to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: see right now. So when would he start the process
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: of deciding like, Looks like John Harbaugh now has a
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: decision to make, declined to name a starter after the game.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Nine questions later, his tone had slightly shifted, shifted slightly.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: When would he start the process of deciding whether to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: change quarterbacks? Starts right now, he said. So we'll see.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: McCarthy said they can trust me, et cetera, et cetera.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the slate review though. And it's DraftKings
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: or FanDuel. That's another thing about DFSOS is it does
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: have the stuff for FanDuel, but we're looking at DraftKings here.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Loaded up for yesterday.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: We will go to the $ 20 Millie maker and it
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: was C Maximus. I'm going to open this in a
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: new tab because we can look here at all the
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: winners and see those that made it to the top.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: But if you just want to see and dig in,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I will share this and it will show that C
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Maximus played 17 lineups, 11 out of 17 cash. The
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: average score was one 51 spent the salary and pretty
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: much every lineup. So maybe left a hundred bucks in
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: one or something. Used 31 unique players. You can see
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: who his most exposed were and what he had against
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the field. Kenneth Walker, 82% versus the field, 23. People
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: late swapped to Kenneth Walker as well, obviously.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Chiefs. Wow.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: 70% Chiefs D, who were 5% owned, right? Huge delta there.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: So you can just see who he was overweight on,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and you can also see who he was underweight on.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: He wasn't really.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: underweight on much, right? A little underweight on Coker. I mean,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: on Bijan matters, on Stafford matters for sure. So I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: guess that's where you could see it, but you could
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: see all of that. You could see his flex usage.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And no, this is the winner.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: This is the other thing, Melvin, you talked about DFSOS
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and how valuable it is. The main thing that people
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: say is like, oh, especially with this winner, people are
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: going to say Penix naked and blah, blah, blah, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. But They say, okay, well, you should
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: look at the best players. All right, if you think
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Uticao or.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: McLovin or whatever you want to go look at, you
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: can go look at them. They're on here, right? You
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: would just go back to slate review.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You would go to player profiles and you would just, boom,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Uticao's right there. Then you can go down and say, okay,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I want to look at Uticao for NFL.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: View details. All right, I want to go and see by,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it's already by date. So what did he play yesterday?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: What did he win?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Let's see, you know, it could have been a rough
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: day for the pros yesterday. Probably was knowing that. Uh,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: the Millie maker, I want to see him what he
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: played there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: All right. He was in again, he wins a bunch
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: of tickets. So don't take the money in verse money out.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: That's why when these sites are doing, by the way,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: there's knockoff sites out there doing like PNLs for players
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: missing thousands and thousands of contest results.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And then trying to talk about.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It, like it's their profit and loss statement missing million
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: dollar scores and all these different tournaments they play. And
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: this is just tracking and just saying the truth. Like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: you know, it's tracking what can be found. It doesn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: mean everything is on there, so take it with a
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: grain of salt for the ultimate number, but at least
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: lets you look in when you talk to players who
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: know who the good players are and say, hey, I'd
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: be looking at how does Uticao treat a 150 portfolio, right?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Even in a losing week, how did he treat his portfolio?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I can see who he was most exposed to yesterday.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Feel bad about playing Bijan and Puka?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: The best DFS player in the world was playing half
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: of his lineups on those two players because you could
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: yesterday and was getting different elsewhere. So think about that
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: when you're looking into it, but you can definitely dive
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: in to other people's player pools.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to C Maximus, congrats on the million dollars.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: This was their winning lineup, Bellman.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I'll let you dissect it here and break it down,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: but not 236.6. So even in that lineup earlier, somebody
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: could have got to like a Puka or a Bijan
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and still won. It's just, they wouldn't have had like Omar,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Cooper or whatever, whoever they had in there, like whatever
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: that perfect lineup was.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But this is the lineup.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Penix, Swift, Hubbard, Malik Neighbors, were big Chiefs heavy, worthy
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Walker Chiefs.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And then likely and Bernard.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people are thinking like Pennix,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: no Winston, et cetera, et cetera.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: But give me your thoughts here on this one. Let's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: break it down.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: It's so first thought is it's so funny when we
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: go from the perfect lineup to the actual winning lineup,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: when it's dissimilar, which isn't that often, but this time
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: it is, it's not that similar. And it's like, man,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: you look at the winning lineup even, and you're like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of room for improvement here, just because
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the only reason I say that is because we looked
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: at the perfect lineup before that. And the perfect lineup
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: is almost always going to be unattainable. So we know
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: that when you take a look at this lineup and
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: dissect it, I think the Chiefs heavy is the first
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: thing I noticed. And when you look at his portfolio,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: he was heavy on the Chiefs. Makes sense. The other
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: thing for me is, yeah, people might quibble at, you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Penix naked, but he was cheap. And it allowed him
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: to get to the best plays on the slate. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: it's just a combination of really, really good plays. Not
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: even guys that were necessarily low-owned, except for Penix and
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs. But he put them together in a really
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: nice way. So not much to say except a lot
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: of good plays put together.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And I think this is important to look at. Some
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: people don't fully dig in, and that's why.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: It does look like.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It's interesting, but it does look like he had some
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: thought process here.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Like, look at his second best entry. Swift, Hubbard. It's
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: like the connect the dots he used to do in
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the thing, like drawing lines.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Neighbors, Worthy, Bernard, Likely, Walker. I'm guessing based on price.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't fully look it up here, but I don't
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: see the price on the difference. But 50K, 50K max spend.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: If I recall correctly.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Chiefs were $ 30K.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: 600 and Patriots were three K.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm assuming Pennix was, uh, I can go back. Actually.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: We have it right here. Cause we were just on, um,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the stone. If I go back here.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the only difference there. Jameis and Patriots versus
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Pennix and chiefs.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that was the 600 bucks, right? Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It had to be five K.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And what's Jameis Jameis is 51. Oh, was it 36
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: and 35? Yeah, sorry, 36 and 35 on the defenses.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I was wrong again.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: So just noting that that is the only difference. So
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: he made a 2v2 swap in his own portfolio, right?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So he had the lineup you're expecting him to have
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and then said, I want this.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to get it in a different way.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, does it mean it's right? I don't know. Like,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's right. Won the money.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: My point is there's method to his madness. It's not
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: just random. Here's another one.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Same, same, same. same same same 3v3 off of that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Panics with london this time with neighbors with likely a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: little bit different but had swift still got to some
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: of these other guys went to the um vegas spot
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: instead of the chief spot in this one here he
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: blended it up a little bit different again he had
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: winston neighbors likely so that's my point i'm not going
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: to go through all of them but i guess um
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: The point is, yeah, it is. Like Aaron says, it
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: is a 2v2, as I'm saying. So this is what happens, right?
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: People see this, immediately you see the post on X,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and people shitting on the guy, be like, wow, Penix naked,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: what a loser.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: How did he actually play this lineup? Well, first of all,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: he's not a loser. He's the max winner with $ 1
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: million on that tournament.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Second of all, It's like the lineup you wanted him
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to play because it just makes your brain feel better.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: He had it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So he did play it. He just didn't stop there.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: And he was willing to risk the additional to say,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I'm going to play this in two ways. And hopefully
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: one of them gets there. Maybe I come one too.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: That was possible the way this played. So whatever people
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: say about conventional strategy and all of that, it's really
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: hard to talk about it when it's literally right there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Benefit of having something like this to be able to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: look into it a little bit further.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It's right here underneath it. The exact line that you
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: think is proper that you wanted him to play. By
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the way, if he only plays your lineup, he's got
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: 200 bucks instead of $ 1 million. So think about that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: when you're thinking about criticizing other people's lineups for those
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: that do it out there.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people look at it and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: just say what some idiot got lucky again. Maybe, maybe
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that's how you feel. Maybe that's what it is. But
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they've got a million
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: dollars more and they did have a method to their madness.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I will say that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, and any given day, you know, DFS, any
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: sport outcome is lucky, but putting yourself in the position
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: is not luck.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So for me, it just, yeah, man, I think.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: You said it best when you talked about, you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: the lineup that people wanted him to play, he had,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and it falls into what I always talk about in
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: DFS to win tournaments.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: You need outlier results.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: You don't want to be on an Island and play
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: all 1% guys just to be on the Island. So
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: you're by yourself. but you need outlier results to win tournaments.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Look at the showdown last night. I can't remember what
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: the exact swap was, but I finished in one of
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: my lineups in a big chop for third. And I
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: know in a lot of contests, people had that lineup.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Two people chopped for first, and it was just one
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: swap off.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Well, they had Dickens instead of you guys had Jack.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And Cody Main, who's awesome over at ETR, puts out
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: a ton of good content when it relates to showdown
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: content and stuff like that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: He said....
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: That it's like a one percentile outcome since 2000, the
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: year 2000. Or no, sorry, since 2020, apologies. Off by
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: 20 years. Let us get 20 years back right quick, Bellman,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and reset.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: But you get the point. It was Lamb, Pickens, Flournoy,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and somebody else in the flex with no deck. That's why.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So yes, very rare outcome.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: But the other side of that is that the lineup
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: that you would expect that should have the right outcome
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: was duped 50 times. So, you know, the people that,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you know, again, I'm sure they were all simulated lineups,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: et cetera, but that had that 1% outcome got paid
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: off in a big way.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And that's all you can ask for a DFS.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent. And you said it best, but again,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that's unconventional.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Cause you say like one, like, again, it happens 1.29%
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: of the time or whatever Cody posted this morning. Um,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I like his tidbits when he posts about that stuff
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: for showdown specifically, but I don't know, like the, um,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Main thing is, is when you look at that, though,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: it's what you said. It's like, how often will it
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: pay off? It's like title says, you know, not how
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: often you're right. It's how much you win when you
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: are right. Well, it paid off for those guys that
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: had that built into their pool. They're playing for lineups
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And I do as well.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I had a lineup that finished 738. I believe it
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: was unique, but it was the same as your lineup.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: But instead of Pierre Strong, I believe you had in
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: your lineup, right? With 12.7 or 11.7 or whatever he had.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I had the exact same lineup as you, but instead
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: of him, I had Brevin span Ford and Brevin span
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Ford was $ 600.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Pierre Strong.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You were by yourself.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: One was 24% owned and used the money.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: More money, not all, but it used more money.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: And I had the one underneath for $ 600 instead of 3K.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: He still fit with Dak. I had Dak with you,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: by the way. I wasn't on this crazy Pickens with Pickens, Lamb, etc.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: with no Dak, but Flournoy and him. So he still
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: had 7.7 points or something at... um 600 and he
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: missed by those four points but the point being it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: like that's that lineup had to have got there and
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: maybe a little more points his way versus somebody else
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: could have put me up the board that way so
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: that's why close closing we talked about that last week
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: but that's the point and playing to win it all
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: in showdown but a lot of showdown winners last night
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: you guys were very close again.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I would have so much rather had your lineup than
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: the lineup i had you know i mean obviously the
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: pickings lineup clearly because that won it but even your
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: lineup like I'd much rather have the position to be.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Solo first, which I would presume yours was, you know, one, two,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: three person.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't check the exact groups on it, but it
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: was much lower for sure.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: It had to have been much lower. I mean, you're
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: putting yourself, I mean, like you said, like, it's not
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: even like Spanford failed. It was just that Strong had
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: a really good performance.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Really strong performance, you could say, Bellman. You're on a
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: show with me, man. You got to do it. Um, yeah, no,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you nailed it. And again, it's, it's not like a knock.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: You got, everyone was up there, a bunch of, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: ship a nation crew, like a lot of people, it's
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: all just, and I think it's actually, um, the way
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing it now and even adapting some of my
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: own stuff, just a side Tambo tangent on the showdown streets.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I have to adapt some of my portfolio to more
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: lineups like yours.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Because while it was duped more, the chop would have
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: still been nice if you got all the way to
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the top. It's just the problem is when you come
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: in third for that chop, that's where the problem lies, right?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: When it's $ 536, that's not going to make, I'll take
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: 50 bucks and my shot.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: It's not factual.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Like obviously I would much rather have $ 536 than $ 50,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: but I'm saying we don't control that until the end
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of the slate. I would have if we knew going in,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I still want my shot for 500,000 or sorry, 250,000
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: versus the five 36 versus the 50 versus the 250,000
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: versus the whatever it would have been like 10 K
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: eight K. I don't know what it still would have
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: been decent, but it wouldn't have been as much as
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: what I was trying to play for.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: So that's all.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: But it's so funny.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: You say that though, because just real quick, cause I'm
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: on the other side and I love showdown. Cause it's
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: one of the only sports I play one 50 and
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I really dive into it. And I'm over here thinking like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I need to, not overall, but adjust my process a
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: little bit so I get more lineups like your lineup
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: and the Pickens lineup. Now, again, to your point, my
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: lineup had a much higher chance of being optimal, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: the fact that it got third really screwed it. But
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: even in first there, yeah, it's a nice night, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: it's not, like we just said, it's about how much
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: you make when you get to the top.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So this is always fun to talk about.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: That's why I think people like it when we go
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: through it back and forth. It's also, it depends on
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the player. It's the, you know, the risk adversity.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Um, well, how much are you.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Playing annually and what you're putting in and into these
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: showdown slates? It's like, uh, you know, if I'm putting
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: in two grand and a showdown slate, then I can't
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: just win five grand.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. And that's going to be profitable. And
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: it's like, great.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But what's that going to be another slate and a half?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Like if I went 250 K we're, we're talking business now, right.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It's a hundred more plus lights. that you're now getting
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: in on action for 200 grand.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You're getting back some of the losses and then playing
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: 200 more than a hundred more slates at 2k a piece,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. And if you keep playing like
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: that and stack a couple of them, that's a game
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: changer and just huge ROI, massive upside for the season.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Most people look at it and say, well, man, I'm
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: playing a hundred bucks a night. If I can win
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: five grand on that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That's massive.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: So that's why like, like a Bellman said, it's, it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: definitely the more optimal lineup or more likely story to
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: be more optimal and higher odds of that. But now
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: with how many people are finding that and getting to
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: the chops and having all that stuff, I just, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: have to play on the opposite side, but I'm speaking
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: also to, if you have a portfolio that you can
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: diversify with, I can easily play a hundred lineups.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Or 115 lineups my way.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: And still have 30 to 50 lineups, 35 to 50 lines,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: a hundred, 115 the other way, and play it more
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: for like some of those where it's like, ah, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a, you know, 25 to 50
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: way chop, but at least get some of those into
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: my portfolio. I prefer usually not to spend as much
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: capital on doing that and just hope to have more
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: lineups of the other outcome. But I am thinking about it,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: at least with my process, looking at that. So speaking
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: of looking at that, let's look at the other big
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: winners yesterday. So let's go to the five 55, by
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the way, I think it's right here. Let's give our
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: guy a little love.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Do we, will he make the names now?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry, man, too many names made it and only the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: top 20 get shown. So the other 18, they didn't
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: include you, but this was your lineup to your point
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: of what you were just talking about. Um, let me
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: bring it over. Last night, it was IMPGM, been around forever,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: crushes across multiple sports, and Ali Bumai, who had the 48.4K
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: lineup that substituted in.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: What was it in the end? It was George Pickens.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: You were right, Pickens, for Prescott.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: For Dak.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: And so it had Lamb, Captain, no Prescott, George Pickens, Flournoy,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: and then it had the other side, Love, Golden, Strong.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Made a bunch of sense, left a bunch of money.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: The part people would struggle with is... they had the
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: money to spend.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: The other thing too, Dallas lost by 10 and you
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: still needed a Dallas captain three, three.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: That happens too. Yes, exactly.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I think we had this conversation before about the, um,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: super bowl last year when our guy title won the
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: 117 K or maybe it was the year before last year,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I should say, but it was with, uh.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Xavier worthy captain. I think it was my homes in flex.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Anyways, a two, four, basically it was a two, uh,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Kansas City got blown out by the Eagles and it
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: was worthy captain with one more chief and then four
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Eagles in the flex, even though it was a blowout
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: for the Eagles.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: It just happens.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing about, that's why I like this game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, anytime it's a 50K at a 50K lineup,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you're going to see a lot of chops, big difference
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: between 568K.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And the top. But again, who would know?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: And it's all built in an optimizer anyway for that perspective.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: But I digress. Let's move on to the, so this
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: was crazy.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Dave Alpha.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Dave, a L F a, and we'll pull this up
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: in a second at two entries in this one, but
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: it's not even about that. Let me go back here.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Let's go to this tab. Like you said, you can
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: literally use it for anything. I don't know what else
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: to tell people, but I'm using it for everything.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: That I need it for. If you go to player profiles,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: let's go to Dave alpha. This is nuts. So you
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: go to NFL.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And let's just do, it's by date, but I want
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: to do it by winnings because the Millie will come
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: up first.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Note the date. Let's just scroll up. Here's the 11th
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: of October.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, no crazy wins that I'm seeing here for October.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: But just noting this, let's scroll up past. The 11th
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: was the Wildcat where he won 1250 last week before this.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Now let's go to the 18th and see what he
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: won yesterday. Million dollars plus on two entries in the 555.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: had one of those same entries, picked the right one
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: everywhere else. Cause look, single entry, five max, but played
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: one 31 80 is the, the one entry.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Um, what else? The single entry game changer. Like this
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: is crazy. Not only do you win the Millie, holy
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: shit you pick.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: The one of the two lineups that is the nuts
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: everywhere i know you want a live final seat in
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the four night so yeah he got this 1.2345 1.5
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Closer to 1.6 because this is 20K guaranteed. So about 1.6K
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: and the upside of the live final in there as well.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So that's a crazy day for Dave Alpha. And that's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: why you can see it here.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: You know, this was our guy, MSP Maxisoda in the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Discord that was up there.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: But if you go over to his tab and the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: two lineups he played, it was 192,000.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: The good news is, I mean, I don't know how
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: good the 176 would have probably still would have done
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: pretty good, but this was the lineup. It's very similar
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to our guy from before. Jeremy is different. Goddard is
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: same Tucker.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So what is it? Jeremy for born? Yeah, it is.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Jeremy for born.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: One B one in the five 55, but then played
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: it for, uh, the right version of it for the
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: extra points of bernard's 25.7 versus borns in everything else
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: that he played so pretty pretty wild still cash this
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: one we'll look at it in a second but give
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: me your take on this lineup it's a cousins with
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: tucker it's got james cook on the run back it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: got drake london it's got kenneth walker so london playing
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: walker instead of bijan playing london instead of bijan etc
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: etc it's kind of like a double whammy there It's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: got neighbors. It's got the Buccaneers defense against Jeremy Bernard too.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Another thing that people say you can't do.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still just in awe of his overall
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: day yesterday, taking down just every single contest he entered
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: and some big boy stuff too.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So congrats to him.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, all on a last second Tucker touchdown, that
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: is the DFS dream of a sweat. So big shout
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: outs there. I mean, it doesn't get any better. And yeah, Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: he played those two lineups, both Vegas stacks. Tucker was
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: obviously monstrous and he didn't play Bowers, who, as you
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: mentioned at the beginning, was another guy who failed at
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: pretty high ownership. He was like 25% owned, 22, I think,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: in this tournament. So got off that, played Tucker instead,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: who was way cheaper. Got to two expensive running backs
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: who weren't highly owned, didn't have Bijan or Puka. For me,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: this lineup is more about who he didn't play than
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: who he did play. And not playing Bijan or Puka,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: open him up everywhere else. Like the London not succeeding
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: didn't really matter because he didn't have the two main
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: guys who failed throwing Bowers and the three main guys.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, congrats. Hell of a day. Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I was just doing some research and moving around here. Like, um,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: first off, Aaron said, Trey Tucker sure. Showing up for
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of hoops.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: He was, it's not like the Omar, like the Cooper play.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: You talk really? No, one's going to land on that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: You don't, I mean, if you don't find that you're
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: not hurt 0.02% or something. no one's going to have
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: them in the right spot anyway, if they have them.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: But Trey Tucker was showing up because that game was
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: a great spot in the afternoon. He was a great spot,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you know, to a great value that you could use
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: there with, you know, James Cook or in the cousin
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: stacks or whatever it might be. It's just how you
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: played them. But man, shout out to our guy, Tom
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Brady is gray was hiding. I only saw the 50
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: K score in the face mask. He had a hundred
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: K in this luxury box and another 50 K. So
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: over 200 K at least for him as well. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Dave alpha, uh, Just to show you, the reason I
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: looked this up is you saw his other lineup was 176, right?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: That would have been third for 70K instead of 200K
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: in this. If you go to the power sweep, it
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: would have been, this is just the selection process, right?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: He obviously liked that one better, but just noting it,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: it's interesting. The reason I bring it up is it's interesting.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So it wouldn't even have top 20 in the $ 150.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And the reason I bring this up, it's not even,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: it's just to note it.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting that, is the only difference
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: was Jeremy Bernard and Bourne. And you would think that...
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: If you were picking one of these, you would play
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: the one where the guy doesn't go against his own defense, right?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Like he picked the Bernard one as the I'm going
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: to put this everywhere lineup. Again, not that it matters,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: by the way. He's a 4K PPR guy. It literally
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Playing Jeremy Bernard versus your defense, 10 games late.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Nothing of that matters. It's just not usually the case.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And an optimizer won't usually give you that because the
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: settings usually defaulted to it. But just to note, two
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: two builds he probably just hand built and put it
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: in everything but the point being also i saw somebody
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: tagged him on uh x a really good poker pro
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: i believe it was like uh okay 10 bracelets and
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: a ring maybe i don't want to put the guy
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: on complete blast but i mean like shout out to
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: dave he's the man um hendon poker hendon mob is
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: a poker site that's not even close to to DFS OS, but, uh,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: from what it showcases and how much you can dig in,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: because obviously we talk about being able to like see
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the hand history, quote unquote of everybody with this pro
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: with this product. But, um, Dave Alpha, I believe this
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: is him. I would assume it's literally his name. He
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: didn't change it or make it too sharp or like
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: too different or anything too crazy. But he's got a
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: couple million in poker winnings that they're reflecting.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Again, hand to mob.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: This is why I said it's very similar to DFSOS.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: They're not here getting someone's P & L trying to
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: figure out their tax reports. It's literally just saying what
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: they can track and what they can see so far
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: of what they've won. But I would assume that's Dave.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: If it's not, shout out to the other Dave Alpha,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: the new guy. that came into the street. But I
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: can tell you, it's pretty wild, I think, for a
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: lot of people out there watching this that are in
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the streets and on these shows each week to say like, yeah,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: not only would I hand build that lineup and just
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: make one swap, but the one that I would pick
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: to go in everything would have the guy against his defense.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I just, you know, I see that as being unique
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: as well. And we see the difference in those prize payouts.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: This one, Shout out to our guy. Bring the noise.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I know he got fourth, I believe, in the Shippit
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Games yesterday. Golden Shipper, top three. Get a Golden Shippit.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: So it's like my second places in the FFWC to
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: start the season. It's only for now, right? I always
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: say this. People always say it never ends, Bellman. It
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: never ends, man.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Always happens.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: First of all, it's a negative thought saying it never ends.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I know that saying.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Right? I know.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I bet you everyone watching is like, oh my God,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: it never ends. Always me. This always happens to me.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: It never ends. but it never ends. This is a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: new mantra. It never ends until it does. That's the thing, right?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: If you stay in the game and keep rolling, it
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're going to get the ultimate goal.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Yo, maybe you want to win a Millie maker or
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: whatever it might be that you want to do. It doesn't,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: nobody can guarantee that type of stuff. But what I
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: can guarantee is it ends. If you stop playing, it ends.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: If you don't use bankroll management and run out of money,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: it ends. If you don't use good contest selection or
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you win 52 K.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Like our friend, Max Soda.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And then tonight it's, max out a GBP and start
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: playing 50K in a showdown slate just because you have
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: the money sitting in your account now.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: That's how it ends.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: But if you stay in the game and play smart
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: and be disciplined, it doesn't have to end. It doesn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: end until it ends, right? It never ends when you
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: keep getting these bad beats, but it will come to
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: an end at some point. And also you have to
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: be grateful for those other wins along the way. We
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of control of the last second
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: touchdowns and things like that. And that's why I said
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: to this point, Yeah, shit would be totally different if
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Tucker doesn't score. But so would all the other slates
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: that you played on where you won, right?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Something happened for you to win.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Whenever you're coming in second or worse or that ultimate
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: pit in your stomach feeling of like, damn, I thought
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: this was my time.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: This was going to be close. Whatever that might be.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: When you did win a different time, because most people
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: have won something, whether it's a ticket, 150.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Bucks, I don't care what it is. It's all dependent
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: on the player.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: But the note of when you did win, you, I
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: guarantee you don't do the thing where you think about, well,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: sucks for the guy in second and third, man. They
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: probably just took a massive bad beat here. You don't,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: you don't think like that because you want, you're just
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: so excited living in the moment of your win. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: remember it's whatever pain you're feeling in a negative instance.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: that's happening to someone else when you win as well
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: someone else is going through that same spot that you've
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: been in and enduring it so just a little uh
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: monday motivation for you know i love that stuff bellman
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: but anything to add when it comes to just that
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: saying in general right obviously a lot of things can
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: go against you but things go for you as well.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah and it it's always off it's oftentimes easier to
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: remember when things didn't go your way than when things
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: do go your way so just keep that in mind
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: that's just human nature right like Anytime you and not
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you specifically, like the proverbial you or me, I myself
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: has won.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: A tournament, like things have happened that have gone my
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: way to make that happen.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: It's just, you know, you don't necessarily look at it
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: like that as opposed to when you lose and you
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: think about all the woulda, coulda, shouldas. So my wife
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: always tells me, don't be a woulda, coulda, shoulda. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good way to live.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: And I also think the funny thing is too, almost
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: the only time you say something like, it never ends
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: or why always me or this always happens or whatever
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: it might be. It's always negative thoughts. And it's first
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: of all, it's not always you. It's not, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: it doesn't never end like we just talked about. But
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: what's crazy is if you're in that position where it
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: matters that much, a lot of shit already went your
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: way today. So like if you're sweating a million dollars,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: our guy Max DeSoto, if you're sweating a million dollars
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: down the stretch and then the Tucker TD comes in, right?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: No Tucker for Max Soda, Tucker, Tucker, Tucker. So it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: not salt wound. I mean, like he has no control
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: over this at all. He just put himself in the position,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: but everyone. again, you've got Aaron Rodgers, Bernard, Bernard OT touchdown.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Like for whatever happened to you with Tucker, people say, oh,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: imagine that Tucker touchdown didn't happen at the end of
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the game, at the very last ending of that game.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, imagine the Bernard. Imagine Rodgers didn't.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Off a 55-yard field goal. 55-yard field goal to send
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it into OT. Right.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: And it's not against Max Soto. Honestly, like highest congrats
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: as a member over the Chimney's community. This is like
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the takeaways we spend time on this show to learn
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: from is the concept of mindset. It's like the Bernard touchdown,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: getting them to OT and then getting the Rogers to
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Bernard connection. And then imagine your slate starts off And
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: you got Kenneth Walker and it's like, bang, bang score.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: And you're like, Oh my God, now everything is going
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: my way.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And then the one thing that doesn't at the end
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: does kill you for 950 K and it sucks.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It hurts you for sure. But you got to remember
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the other things that happened throughout the day.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a couple, by the way, When
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you said don't be a coulda, shoulda, woulda guy, it's
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: hard not to be because it's human nature.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm with Max on this one. I understand it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Loveland, this dude, by the way, this is just some
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: jokes at the end, but why was Loveland literally trying
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: to run out of bounds and catch a toe tap
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: touchdown when he was wide open in the end zone
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: for his second? This buddy was Full speed running to
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: catch the ball like this. You just, you could have
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: stood there like a statue and he throws you the
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: ball and you catch it.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Instead, he doesn't get that touchdown.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor had multiple chances at another touchdown earlier in
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: that setup. everybody has Jeremy Bernard could have been Metcalf
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: right at the end. Like there's so many woulda, coulda, shouldas,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: but you have to remember is the one, the ones
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: that went your way first, right? The other stuff that
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: happened that puts you up there to even give you
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: that opportunity. So everybody up here has woulda, coulda, shouldas.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Look at this guy, the Don Rades, the Brock Bowers.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Did he end up scoring less than Meyer yesterday? Didn't
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Meyer have like seven for 97 or something? I know
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Bowers started finally getting it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Later on but man that's just crazy like that could
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: have been much better for them that's an 850k swing
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: so lots of things got to happen to go your
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: way in dfs we recognize that i was following along
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: for a while i think um shout out csu ram
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: long long time been doing this he had all the
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: the players left over at one point he was live
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: super live he had chiefs walker worthy And got the
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Bernard one late to push him up there with all
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: those chiefs when a lot of people just had, you know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Walker and Tucker or Cook or whatever. And these ones, like, again,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: I said it last week about the Brissette stuff.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, quote unquote, a garbage time merchant.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Like, it's all the same. The touchdown counts. The clock
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: is still running. The slate is still on. It doesn't
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: matter if, you know, what if Tucker had got those
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: touchdowns in the first quarter?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And you still finished fourth it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Wasn't because of tucker my point for anybody or whatever
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: place somebody finished like you wouldn't calculate it that way
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: it's just because it happens at the very end that
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: you're like damn that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Sucks so uh is what it is uh we.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Can learn from it we can move on we can
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: keep playing getting better i love our guy max isona
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: tagging me in the discord this morning saying just like
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: tambo says we're just going when you when you win
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: you're 10,000 plus, his number is 52,000. When you win 52K,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you don't got to hop back in and play 52K
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the next day or the next week.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: He's in for 160 bucks for the next slate. So
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: love to see that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Anything else you wanted to look at here? Anything else
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: you wanted to touch on? Anything that you saw that
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: you wanted to comment on for today?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Just real quick, your point about like it never ends
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: until it does. It reminds me of when people talk
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: about like, you know, Sam Darnold. could never win a
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, right? Could never win a Super Bowl until
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: he does.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: And it's like these arguments that people try to make
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: that can be disproven just by the other side happening
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: is always funny to me. And I think it's kind
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: of exactly what you're saying. So positive mindset can go
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: a long way.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: 100%, man.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: People said there was like such a limited chance that
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the Brewers would get the Dodgers and then they sweep them. Right.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Last year.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a Jays fan and I was
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: a little bit on the bandwagon because we listen, they're
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: the only Canadian team we got. But when the Jays
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: were up against the Dodgers in the world series, it
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: was like, look, they made it this far.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Just be happy.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: But then it came down to like one crazy catch
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: of Pahas over Hernandez, where Hernandez says, I looked up
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: and I knew it was over. And he's like, then
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I found out it wasn't like even that catch when
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: it happened.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: That was the end. That was the world series was over.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Jays win. So it's like any anything can happen.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Right when it comes down to the the end it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: just you got to be able to put yourself there
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: first your guardians are not out of it yet right
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: you'd like for them to be in a better position
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: to have the 3-2 lead but they can win two
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: games and get into the world series still that's the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: mindset you got to have and hope for and as
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: a fan that's even you know a separate conversation right
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: we can only do what we.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Can do i'm not even like against the.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: People that are the we people right we just need
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: this to have like you're you're that much of a
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: fan good for you and that you got something you're
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: actually that hyped up about and you support and that's
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: your thing go ahead but no control on the outcome, right?
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Like they, they can go out and put themselves in
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: the best position that sometimes they do everything in their
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: power and still come up just short. Remember the super
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: bowl back in the day, the guys right there and
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: just has to cross the line with his arm. And
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: it's like this short might've been the Titans back in
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: the day, but I just like things that I remember
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: of these, all these woulda coulda shouldas that you talked about.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So it definitely was the Titans with Eddie George.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: God, who was the receiver? It was Steve McNair as
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the quarterback.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: He got like swung around a little bit.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Kind of like a little bit of hope for those
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Titans fans at that time. And it was like, damn,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: just couldn't quite get there.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this is fun.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: This is what we like doing with our Mondays. Appreciate
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: all you guys that joined us on this. If you
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: want to join us at The Nation, get in on
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the community stuff we talked about earlier, man.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Just an incredible, incredible community. You see a guy like.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Rick not only win $ 75K and give credit back, but
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: also he did the work. But then to go on
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: and give the donation that he's giving, the.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: $ 1, 500 ticket. We had our guy Sharks.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago there, a guy Sharks donated 48,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: 53 to the cause and got the ship of games
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: rounded up after his 40 K wins. So just a
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: incredible community to be a part of a lot of fun.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Bellman always enjoy doing this with you on Mondays. We'll
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: be back for more guys next week, but this afternoon
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: coming up in an hour, you've got hoop title and
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: myself going to be breaking down the commanders and 49ers
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: game for Monday night football for Bellman, for.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Myself, toe tagging Tambo. Good luck this week and let's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: ship it.