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Physician oversight of abortion pill, mifepristone, national controversy · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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I'm your host, Reverend Bill Cook, founder and CEO of America's Black Robe Regiment.
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And we have a pro-life initiative called Project Josiah, which Judy has been leading for 10 years.
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So she's quite familiar with the topic we're on today, which is abortion.
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We have some wonderful guests lined up who are experts on many topics that should be of interest to everyone, especially if you are paying attention to what's happening in our republic.
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It was sort of an insult.
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Today, America's Black Robe Regiment is raising up courageous pastors to secure the blessings of liberty, not only to our own, but also to the next generation.
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They are the last hope of our now dying republic.
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I believe all our all of us have a part to play.
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Our guest today is someone I'm very excited to talk to, Brother Alan Parker, an attorney.
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He's been doing his part to be the hope of this dying republic for decades.
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Alan Parker was lead counsel for Norman Party, formerly Roe of Roe versus Wade from 2000 to 2012 and Sandra Cano, the Doe of Doe versus Moulton, until 2014, in their legal efforts to overturn the two landmark cases that brought legalized abortion on demand to America.
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Alan Parker, president of the Justice Foundation is a former professor of law at St.
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Mary's University in San Antonio, Texas.
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He was a visiting professor at the University of Texas and studied international human rights at the International Human Rights Institute in Strasbourg, France.
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He taught international human rights at the St.
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Mary's Institute on World Legal Problems in Innsbruck, Austria.
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And Alan, it is such an honor to have you on our show today.
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Well, thank you for having me on.
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I consider it a great honor, and I'm so deeply grateful that you are stirring up the hearts of pastors across the nation to become involved in revival, reformation, awakening, and saving America by the grace of God.
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So we definitely need the grace of God, don't we?
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Yes, we do.
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Thank you.
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Yesterday, Alan, attorneys from your Justice Foundation were engaged in an important case in Louisiana regarding the abortion pill.
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I'm saying it right, Milton Preston.
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Can you give us background on the case and share with us what happened yesterday?
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All right.
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This is a big case that's gonna that is starting right now in the state of Louisiana, but I believe ultimately will go to the United States Supreme Court.
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And it's a reflection of the what I call the cold civil war that we're undergoing as a culture.
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By God's grace and miracles, he reversed Roe v.
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Wade back on June 24th of 2022.
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So about three years ago now.
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And that was a miracle.
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For 49 years, the law was supposedly, according to the Supreme Court, that there was a right to abortion in the Constitution.
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And finally, through the miraculous, a series of miraculous things, they said no, we were wrong.
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There's no right to life in the Constitution.
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And now right now the states are free to battle it out.
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Some are pro-life, some are pro-death.
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But like Lincoln said about slavery, I say about abortion, we cannot long continue as a nation.
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Half abortion, half life, half death.
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And so what happened was the state of Louisiana but made abortion illegal, except for a few exceptions, probably, uh, in their state.
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Abortion is illegal.
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And yet there is a federally approved drug called Mipha Pristone, which is uh more colloquially known as the abortion pills.
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And they approved it back in 2023, and they allow it to be sold through the mail and through common carriers like Federal Express and UPS and things like that, uh, which violates a federal law called the Comstock Law.
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So Louisiana and a young woman named Rosalie Markov sued the FDA for arbitrarily and capriciously approving this drug without even requiring that a woman visit a doctor and get a prescription or be seen by a doctor.
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Uh no in-person doctor visit, uh, and allowing this drug use distribution screen scheme in violation of federal law.
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So that's one argument that they arbitrarily and capriciously approved it.
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And the second is they're not enforcing the federal law.
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There was the beginning of preliminary hearing yesterday in Lafayette, Louisiana, and the state of Louisiana was there, represented by Liz Merle, their attorney general, and several other attorneys on her staff, and co-represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom, who is a Christian-based legal organization, the largest Christian legal organization in America, do our very excellent work.
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They were very instrumental in the reversal of Roe v.
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Wade.
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And then there were people like Rosalie.
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Now, Rosalie was a woman who had a non-marital relationship with a man, and she got pregnant.
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And she was happy to be pregnant and wanted the baby and wanted to keep the baby, but he didn't want a baby.
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And he forced her to have an abortion.
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He forced her to take the pills under threat of violence.
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She took them so that he wouldn't do anything, but she wanted to spit them out later, but they dissolved very quickly in the mouth.
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And then it killed her baby.
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So she's a victim of the FDA, because this man went online and ordered abortions.
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He's not the patient.
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He never saw a doctor.
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She never saw a doctor.
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She never asked for the pills, but anybody can go online.
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And the Justice Foundation has a center against forced abortion.
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Because in the year 2000, when we began to represent Norma and Sandra, like you said in my introduction, Roe and Doe, in their legal efforts to reverse it.
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One of the things the Lord told me to do was to collect the testimonies of women hurt by abortion along the way.
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And we found that once you make abortion legal, one of the ways women are hurt is it's not just all a woman's choice.
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Many, many times the women are forced into abortion or unduly pressured or coerced to solve someone else's problem.
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And the three most common types of forced abortion are parents or adult guardians forcing a minor to have an abortion.
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And the second is an adult male forcing the woman to abort his child, which is what happened to Rosa Lee in this case.
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And then the third is human trafficking and prostitution, where the pen wants we don't know who the father is, but many of those women want to keep their children.
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It may seem odd, but giving birth to a child can bring life into a terribly tragic situation.
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So anyway, Rosalie was for it.
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So the question is does she have standing and does Louisiana have standing?
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And we provided a brief that has from page eight to about the end of the brief, page 24.
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Many, many graphic terribly gruesome uh things.
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And the abortion pill is the most gruesome and barbaric form of abortion that there is.
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Many of our testimonies, and we collect testimonies through Operation Outcry.
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That's one of our ministries.
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And the women can give us their testimony.
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So we have 4,000.
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800 plus legally admissible testimonies and about 2,000 of those we asked did anyone pressure you into having the abortion and the women say yes and it's again the the usual suspects the boyfriend the it could be the abortion clinic because they want the money so they'll try to pressure the women oh don't don't say that don't be stupid uh you can't afford a baby you look at your life you don't you'll ruin your life with a baby and they just provide lots of emotional pressure sometimes they refuse to allow the withdrawal of consent.
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A woman says, I've changed my mind, I don't want this abortion.
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And they'll say, Well, it's too late, we gave you the first pills, you've got to go through with it.
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And that's not true.
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Abortion can be reversed, abortion pill reversal, particularly can be reversed.
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So I'll just give a couple of examples, and I don't want to be too graphic.
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Sure.
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Even in the Dobbs case, which reversed Roe v.
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Wade, it said that the states are free to ban or restrict particularly gruesome and barbaric procedures.
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So here's why abortion is worse than surgical abortion.
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Abortion pills are worse.
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In the old days, the woman would go to a doctor, so she thought she was getting a medical procedure.
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The doctor would lie to her and say it's just a mass of tissue, it's not a baby.
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So she wouldn't, she would think she's not doing anything wrong, or it would help heal her conscience somewhat.
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It pressured them, and that deception got them in.
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But under the pill, and I'll just this one wasn't in our brief, but it was the wor first woman that ever called me after taking her abortion pill.
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Uh and she said, My God, my God, they lied to me.
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They lied to me.
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She was sobbing uncontrollably.
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I just had to wait sometimes for the substance up.
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She said, they lied to me.
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They told me this was not a baby, but I can see my baby's arms and legs.
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This is a baby.
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It's my baby.
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They lied to me.
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They lied to me.
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So the woman has become the abortionist herself.
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It's not the doctor doing it.
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It's her.
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She takes the pills.
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And then in her own home on her own couch, she sees the baby.
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And uh, in our brief, some of the women said things like, I saw my baby's eyes.
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I'll never forget looking into my own baby's eyes.
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My God, what have I done?
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Um the other thing that like the first lady called me said, Can I bury my baby in the backyard?
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Can I bury my baby?
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So the second thing they have to do is they have to dispose of human remains.
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We don't we don't ever ask anybody to do that.
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You go to the hospital, you have a miscarriage, they'll take care of the baby's remains.
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What do the women do?
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A lot of them want to bury their baby in the backyard.
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One woman was burying her baby and then saying, That's not a good enough place.
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They took up the baby and bury buried it in another place.
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And uh mostly what happens is they flush the baby down the toilet.
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And here's their baby, and that's going into the water supply of every city in America.
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We are we are becoming somewhat of a cannibalistic eating and drinking our own children because of the horror of abortion.
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And I'm and you can read our brief uh and read these testimonies for yourself.
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Uh and the women have been very courageous to tell this.
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So with your permission, I might just say a little bit about where women can get help and healing from.
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Absolutely, please do.
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Uh our main website is called the Justice Foundation.org, the Justice Foundation.org.
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And uh we have three things there.
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One of our sub-ministries is called Operation Outcry, and that's the women who've been hurt by abortion.
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And if you've been hurt by abortion, I want to tell you first of all, that it is not the unforgivable sin.
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It's it may feel like an unforgivable sin.
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I've heard so many women tell me, well, God may forgive me, but I can't forgive myself.
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And it's true you can't forgive yourself, but you can accept God's forgiveness.
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Yes.
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That's right.
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And there are abortion recovery programs that are confidential all over the country that women have created to meet this need to ask God for forgiveness and receive it.
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And I urge you to go to our website, Operation Outcry.org or the JusticeFoundation.org, either one of them, go to Operation Outright, and you can get healing resources there on our website.
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Uh, usually a Bible study or a weekend.
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And you can then, if you want to, give us your testimony, and we will show those testimonies to courts and legislatures because you know the pain of abortion.
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You know how it hurt you for decades, is what women tell me.
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You know how it made you feel like a murderer.
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Many women feel like I felt worthless, and I let men abuse me.
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I went to drugs because I felt worthless.
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Some have committed suicide, and many have tried to commit suicide, and fortunately not succeeded.
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Uh but it's it's not the unforgivable sin, but it's a grave and serious.
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And if you want to give us your testimony, at the bottom, you say, please use my full name, first name, or initials only.
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If you haven't told your family about it, we recommend first name or initials only.
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But some women, once they go through healing, they want to tell people, I committed this terrible sin.
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I suffered severely, but by God's grace, I've been forgiven.
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And I'm alive and I have eternal life, and I want to witness to how terrible this is for our country and other women.
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I don't want other women to be hurt.
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And I want to give glory to God for the healing and forgiveness he's given me.
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Welcome back to Last Hub of the Dying Republic.
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We are speaking with attorney Alan Parker, president of the Justice Foundation.
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Alan's been involved in the fight to protect babies and women for from abortion for 20 years.
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Alan, you've been sharing about the case down in Louisiana.
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And uh one thing that I thought of what you were sharing about the uh women flushing their babies down the toilet um because of the uh abortion pill.
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Um it makes me think about for the past fifty-three years, abortion has been legal.
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I I've been part of um battling abortion, doing whatever I can since 1980 when the Lord called me into the fight.
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And I have found that for the most part, even Christians had the attitude, well, this doesn't really have anything to do with me.
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Like I will certainly never have an abortion, or I'll make sure my daughter doesn't have an abortion, or man might say my wife won't have an abortion.
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Doesn't really have anything to do with me.
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But it's interesting that now we are finding out that we're all impacted by it.
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It's like the enemy is determined that we will have a part to play in it, and it's coming down back to bite us in that now.
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It's even like you said, in the drinking water.
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And I have read municipalities do not have any kind of water systems to take this um these chemicals out of our water.
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So uh it's it's interesting that you say it's almost like cannibalism.
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In a very indirect way, but um God will not be mocked if we do not do something about it.
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Yes.
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And since this is the Black Robe Regimen, I'd like to speak to pastors.
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Pastors think it's not in their church.
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And yet that is the farthest thing in the world.
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I've never spoken in the church.
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And when I do, I usually have the women of Operation Occry with me also.
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That I've never been in the church.
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And some pastors will have told me, well, we want you to speak, but there's not a problem in our church.
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Women will come up silently to me.
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I can tell they're the ones who'll be the last ones to come up because they want privacy to tell me that they've had an abortion.
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And in fact, from the beginning, in the year 2000, when the Lord called me to represent Norma and Sandra, Roe and Doe, in their legal efforts to reverse the two cases that brought abortion onto American soil.
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He he told me to collect the women's testimonies that there's two great lies about abortion.
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It's not a baby, and it's good for women.
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And you can prove it's a baby through scientific fact, and the pro-life movement had been doing that, but that hasn't been enough.
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It should be, but it's hasn't been.
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So the other lie is that you're helping women, empowering women.
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Well, this is destruction.
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Well, I d I said to the Lord, I don't know any women who had abortion.
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Well, I actually did.
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I just didn't know who who they were.
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And when I asked my Sunday school class to pray for me after God convinced me through Isaiah 28 that this call was from him and he was going to be with me.
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Uh I asked my Sunday school class to pray for me.
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And at the end of the class, three women out of 21 people in the class came up afterwards and said, we'll give you our testimonies.
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Abortion devastated us, and we'll be happy to give you our testimonies.
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So it was hard.
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And I don't believe any woman's ever filled out the affidavit form without crying about it.
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A survey by George Varna has found that one out of four women have had abortions, and that um that would include Christian women, women who attend church, and the 25% of all women who've had abortion say they have been in a church in the past month.
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They may not be committed Christians, but they've been to church and they've been exposed in you know to in some degree to to God in the scriptures.
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But I bet they didn't hear a sermon about abortion in the last month, or maybe the last three to five years of being in church, if ever.
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I'll tell you something that's the Supreme Court said about this issue that's a challenge to pastors.
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In 2007, the Supreme Court struck down 38 state laws that banned partial birth abortion, a particularly gruesome late term abortion, where the legs were pulled out, but the head of the baby was kept inside the woman, a cannula crushed the skull and sucked out the brains of the baby.
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That was partial birth abortion.
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And the Supreme Court said, Oh, Roe v.
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Wade protects that gruesome procedure.
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Well, then God called us in 2000, and he gave us the promise that he would annul the covenant with death, that he would waters would overflow the secret place, which I believe were the spirits of the women, that hail would sweep away the refuge of lies, and that the covenant with death would be annulled, the agreement with the grave that were Roe and Doe would be canceled, as if they never should have been.
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One of the things you talked about was uh sin thriving in darkness, and you know, one of the things I've come to understand is that that tyranny thrives in a in a place of darkness and deceit.
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In 2007, we got our first victory at the U.S.
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Supreme Court when the Supreme Court upheld the federal ban on partial birth abortion, which had passed after the miraculous election of George Bush, after getting uh of Judge Alito nominated and confirmed, but uh they upheld a federal ban on partial birth abortion, and they said abortion is a painfully difficult moral decision, and some women come to regret aborting the infant life, and they cited the two pages of our brief where the women's testimonies were about how horrible it was.
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So, how do we overcome Satan by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony?
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And if Justice Kennedy, who wrote that opinion, says it's a difficult moral decision, whose job is it to teach morality to America?
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The church.
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That's right.
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But what do the per churches say?
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No, that's a political question.
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It's not our job to teach.
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So you've got Justice Kennedy washing his hands of the blood, saying it's the church's job, and the churches unfortunately wash their hands of the blood and say it's the politicians' job, but it is everyone's job to oppose it.
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Jesus, uh Psalm, I think 139 says, rescue the perishing.
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And Jesus says, you can't say I didn't know it was happening, right?
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Uh, because it's in the phone books.
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It's on your it's on the Google.
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You can find out where the abortions and the children are being killed in your area.
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And I believe one of the most successful things to do is just stand in front of the clinic peacefully, publicly, not cursing, coming in love, praying for the salvation of all the workers in the clinic and all the abortion doctors, and praying that the clinics will be shut down.
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40 days for life does that.
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I think it's one of the most effective prayer movements in American history.
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When they started praying, clinics got shut down.
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They're still being shut down.
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Planned parenthood's going out of business, and God is going to find the right to life that's in the Constitution, and He's going to have the Supreme Court rule the next big case will be that there is a right to life in the Constitution.
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They've taken step one, they've ruled there's no right to abortion.
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That's comparable to saying we're going to end the slave trade, which was what we did first.
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And then you had to end slavery.
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In the Dobbs case, the court said we were wrong, we regret, and they annulled it, which is an unusual way to reverse a case.
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Uh they could have said there's been changes in factual circumstances or something like that.
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There were a number of legal doctrines they could have used.
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They just were bold and said, Roe should never have been the law of this land, and we're gonna cancel it.
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And that's what the scripture in Isaiah 28 said the Lord would do when He when He uh in 2000, he confirmed it.
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Uh and I've written a book on our website called Reversing Roe v.
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Wade, My Journey with Roe, Doe and God, and I wrote that to give God the glory for all the miracles that he did.
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It's a providential history, it's not a legal story, it's how God shaped and did miracles, like the election of Donald Trump.
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Right.
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Had to be a miracle.
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I go to a lot of pro-life meetings.
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We never sat around and said, let's get a New York Playboy billionaire to become the most pro-life president of American history.
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Right.
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No, only God did that.
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And he got three justices on the Supreme Court.
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And that's where the right to life in the Constitution comes in.
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Because these three judges, with three that were already there, now mean that for the first time in a hundred years of American history, since about the 1920s, so it's really about 150 years, uh, there are six judges who believe in originalism.
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And what that is, that means every word of the Constitution should be interpreted by the judges according to the public meaning of the word at the time it was adopted.
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Yes.
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This that is the that is a just consent.
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So if you look at so the Fifth Amendment was adopted in 1791, 15 years after the Declaration of Independence, and then the uh 14th Amendment was after the Civil War to eliminate the scourge of slavery, which had treated a class of humans, African Americans, as less than human.
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They called them subhuman, they're not worthy of rights.
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That's what we call the baby.
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Oh, it's a subhuman.
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Oh, it's a potential life, or it's a future human, but not human, but God says it is human from the moment of conception.
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And how do we know what the founder said?
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We have the declaration of independence.
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Yes.
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Let's say this together.
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I do this with my big audiences, and if you're listening on the audience uh or to this, let's say it together.
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We're going to do the self evident clause, all right.
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We hold these truths to be seen.
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That all men are created in the creator and endowed by who?
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Their creator.
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With certain inalienable rights.
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And among these is the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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That to secure these rights, what rights?
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The right to life.
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Right.
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Governments are instituted among men.
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Deriving their just powers from the consent of the government.
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Which is us.
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So is there a right to life in the Declaration?
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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Who does it come from?
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God.
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And I'll just quote one of the founders who was a guy named James Wilson.
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He was a signer of the Declaration, the Constitution, and was appointed by George Washington to the Supreme Court.
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So you think he'd know what a right to life means, right?
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Yes.
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And he gave a bunch of lectures, and they were in a book, and then he says, with consistency, beautiful and undeviating.
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Human life from its commencement, which means beginning, to its close, is protected by the common law.
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That was the federal criminal and statutory law.
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And the common law was based on God's law.
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In the contemplation of law, life begins.
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Here it comes when the infant is first able to stir in the womb.
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By law, life is protected not only from immediate destruction, but from every degree of actual violence.
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And in some cases, from every degree of danger.
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That's why we have child endangerment statutes, because we protect life.
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Now, we want to protect the mother's life too.
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So all of the child murder statutes is what they used to call many of the anti-abortion statutes, it was called child murder.
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The woman was not called pregnant.
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What did they call a woman?
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With child.
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So they knew it was child.
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And we should go back to saying, oh, how great you're with child.
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It's not a sterile medical condition.
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It's the beginning of new life created by God.
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Now, I'm going to tell you the practical, well, I've just told you the legal theory.
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The founders meant it.
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So originalism is a just powers doctrine of governance, meaning the judges don't say, we're going to make up our law, like we think a woman should have a right to abortion, so we create it out of thin air.
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Or gay marriage, or something else that's not in the Constitution.
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That's an illegitimate form of judging.
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But the judges today appointed by Donald Trump say we want to follow the meaning of the people.
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That's deriving their consent from the governed.
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So we now have a wonderful, wonderful chance for the Supreme Court to follow this law.
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Praise God.
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Well, we are happy to hear that because in Virginia, where we live, our legislators have already taken the first of three steps to pass a uh an amendment, an abortion, pro abortion amendment to our state constitution.
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Um they've it's been voted on twice in our General Assembly, and uh now it will go to the people to vote on it this fall.
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And um it we have read and we have heard that this amendment in Virginia is one of the most extreme abortion policies in the world.
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Right now, unfortunately, you can abort your child right up to the moment before the child was born in Virginia, but you have to have the approval of three doctors.
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This will eliminate any approval by any other doctor, it takes away the right of a parent to not only um give consent, but to even be notified.
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And um, you know, I'm a parent, we're we're parents, we have five children, and we would not have wanted our children when they were growing up to go anywhere with a another adult without being notified.
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But here we actually had in Virginia a case in a high school um three years ago, and it just came out in the past year, uh, where guide school counselors were taking three three different girls were taken to an abortion center without their parents' notification.
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So if this amendment passes in Virginia, this will be um perfectly legal in our state, and I we will be the eighth state to have an abortion amendment um to our state constitution.
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So well, if people will go to our website, uh the uh the justice foundation.org, there we have three major things Operation Outcry, the Center against Forced Abortion, and life in the Constitution.
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If they sign the life in the Constitution and download it, they can make these new arguments in addition to all the others.
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We must fight against that.
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But it's actually unconstitutional for them to do that, and even if it passes, the 14th Amendment will strike it down.
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And what the Democratic Party is doing now, it's like when they defended slavery in America.
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They were the pro-slavery.
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What does slavery?
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It denies personhood to African Americans.
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They were the party of degradation and deprivation of rights to African Americans, the black community, because they felt they were an inferior race.
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I don't think that.
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I think they're made in the image of God.
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The Republican Party was born out of the desire to end slavery in America and treat all people as made in the image of God.
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And the Democratic Party, I think, under perhaps evil influences, spiritual influences, is going back to their roots of treating a class of human beings, children in the womb, as less than human.
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And they're defending it to the max.
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It was the Democrats who, even after slavery was ended by the 13th and 14th Amendment of the Constitution, then they invented Jim Crow laws to keep African Americans in uh in economic slavery and not able to vote.
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And it was them who created the KKK.
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And like I say, the Republican Party was born to fight all that.
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Well, it's my time.
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Americans refuse to be honest in the human chest.
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Under the name of diversity, politicians divide the people in their quest for home.
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Now is our time, my fellow.
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America outlaw.
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Liberty and justice.
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Welcome back to Last of Up and Dying Republic.
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We're excited today to be talking to Alan Parker of the Justice Foundation.
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And I'm your host, Reverend William Cook of America's Black Robe Regiment.
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And you know, Alan, one of the things I wanted to just comment on and ask you about before we talk you to talk about what is the center for forced abortion is that what we're talking about is laws of nature and nature's God.
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And it seems seems like you know, legislatures can stand up and say we're going to pass this law or make this constitutional.
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You can't do that with the laws of nature.
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They're inviolable.
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They can't be changed.
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Uh, and it's not going to change God's mind about what's right and what's wrong.
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You know, so we're really under a heavy, heavy burden right now as a nation because one of the things I've been saying is that America is drenched in innocent blood from sea to shining sea.
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And we have got to deal with this innocent blood issue in our nation because God says this land cannot be cleansed of the innocent blood that's shed therein, but by the blood of the one that shed it.
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So there will be a reckoning at some point for this.
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So anyway, I wanted to ask you what's the center against forced abortion.
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Tell us about it.
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Well, thank you very much.
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Um as we've collected the testimonies of women who've had abortions, which is supposed to be the free voluntary choice of the woman, we found that many, many women in America are actually forced, uh coerced or unduly pressured into having an abortion.
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We so we created a center against forced abortions, because forced abortion is illegal everywhere in America, even California and New York, where abortion is legal if it's a voluntary abortion.
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Now, other places, all abortion, even a voluntary abortion is illegal, but even there, forced abortions occur.
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So on our website, our legal tools.
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That anyone can use to prevent these forced abortions from occurring, to stop them, basically.
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And we estimate we're saving about a thousand to two thousand babies a year because we train pregnancy centers on how to use these tools.
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But anyone in the church can use this and distribute to their youth group.
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Because often it's the kids who hear about the scenario number one.
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They'll say, hey, did you hear Sally's pregnant?
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Yeah, and her parents are making her get an abortion.
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You can say, no, they can't do that.
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That's not right.
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And we have a dear parent letter that can be given to those parents that tell them this isn't what you wanted, but there are many people who've gone through this.
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There can be healthy outcomes on the other side, but you need to know that forcing your child to have an abortion is a cr is a crime and can subject you to civil or criminal penalties if you do it.
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Here, for example, are some of the things parents say, if you don't have this abortion, I'm kicking you out of my house.
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That violates the duty of parental care until the child reaches the age majority.
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You can't kick them out of the house.
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If you don't, I don't care what you say, I've made the appointment.
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That's not the voluntary consent of the the young woman who's now pregnant.
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And we we work with the pregnancy centers to maybe find them a maternity home.
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I tell the young ladies, well, your parents have a right to be mad at you.
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You shouldn't be having sex before marriage, and they're upset for you, but they don't have the right to make you kill your baby.
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That's illegal and we'll help you.
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We often ask urge them to ask for parents' forgiveness and get on the right path.
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Uh, but it's illegal and we can stop it.
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So we uh we do training for people and churches can give this literature out too.
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Uh the second is the dear father of the child letter.
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Uh that's a little harder for people to do.
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We usually get lawyers involved in that.
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But anybody, the woman can send this letter to the man, and they say things like uh uh if you won't get a penny of child support out of me, uh well, that's the legal duty to pay child support.
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It's not the woman making him child support.
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He's father and child, the law says he has a responsibility.
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So he doesn't want the payment, he doesn't want the child, he wants to abort.
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Now, let me bring up at this time to the alternative to abortion that is a far better way to take care of the problem that people in Virginia don't know about.
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I can ensure you most people have never heard of these two things.
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It's called the safe haven law, and every state has a safe haven law.
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Uh y'all could Google safe haven law and Virginia while I'm talking and find it uh what the number of days is.
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But uh under the safe haven law, a woman can walk out of the hospital and leave her baby behind, or have up to say 30, 60 or 90 days to decide if she wants to surrender her baby at no cost without killing her baby and no legal procedure to terminate the rights.
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She can have the freedom of Roe v.
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Wade without killing her baby and deeply wounding herself.
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And uh Amy Coney Barrett brought this up in oral argument in the Dobbs case.
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Doesn't the safe haven law eliminate the burden of parenting?
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Most women don't want to kill a child.
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That's why they're terribly, they they have to be lied to.
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It's not a baby, it's just a mass of tissue.
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Uh but they they don't want to or they can't take care of a baby.
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Now, if they just need help, pregnancy centers will help them, churches will help them, but if they don't want to, they can safely safely the baby surrender the baby.
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And then what will happen to the babies?
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Are they going to be neglected and abandoned children in foster care?
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No, because there's one to two million women every year in America desperately waiting to adopt newborn children.
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And why is that?
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Because we have a huge infertility problem.
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Ten percent of American women, this is just a scientific fact, are unable to have a child after a year of trying.
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That's the definition of infertility.
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Maybe different medical reasons, or the man may be sterile, unable to produce sperm, but she's in a marriage.
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So what are they going to do?
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You know, that's uh or they may have pregnancies, but a lot of miscarriages.
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The baby can't be born alive.
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Uh so that's six million women every year, and after a while they try to fix it, maybe after two or three years, they have a baby.
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So uh, but those that don't, one to two million women say, I'm desperate.
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I would love to take care of a baby.
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So I call it the love, love, love solution.
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It's love for the baby in the womb and justice.
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Don't kill the baby.
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It's love for the mother.
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Please don't hurt yourself.
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This can devastate you for decades.
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Give us the baby, and we'll give the baby to those homes that are waiting to adopt and love a newborn baby.
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So it's the love, love, love solution.
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And I think it will end the abortion wars in America.
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The other fact that needs to be known is if you're pregnant, many women say, I can't even pay my medical bills.
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How am I going to take care of a baby?
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Who's going to pay my medical bills?
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In every state, including Virginia, every low woman income woman in the state is eligible for the state to pay all her expenses of pregnancy, prenatal delivery, and after care.
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The state will pay that.
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In Texas, 50% of the hospitalization, the births are paid for by Texas Medicaid.
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I don't know what the percentage is in Virginia, but it's high, and it's there.
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So we can save the woman, we'll pay for your medical care.
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We'll take the baby from you the moment the hospital comes.
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She can choose the parents through traditional adoption, and that can help prevent some trauma.
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Women say, Oh, I've got to abort a baby.
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I know if I brought the baby to term, I'd think about that baby my whole life.
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Well, the problem is the bond is there even if you do an abortion.
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Then you start thinking, oh my God, I killed my baby.
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Where would my baby be in first grade?
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Where would my baby be in junior high?
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My friend's daughters are now getting married.
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Where would my baby be?
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Uh oh my gosh, I my grandfather, my friends all have grandchildren.
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I have nobody.
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All my grandchildren are dead because I aborted them.
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And uh, you know, it's a lifelong trauma.
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Now, again, there's healing and forgiveness through Jesus Christ, and that helps, but the emptiness is still there until they see those children in heaven.
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So that's the center against forced abortions, and we save a lot of lives, and anyone can help with that, and you can download the forms for free, give them to your pregnancy centers in your community.
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They may not have heard about us, though we have given this material to over a thousand centers across the country, uh, but staff comes and goes, so it's good to give it to pregnancy centers.
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Give the letter to youth pastors.
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And I'll say this.
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You're you this is a highly sexualized culture.
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You know that pastors.
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We can't stop that.
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And many of your, if you have ever had a young girl or young man who stops coming to youth group and they were on fire, they may have had an abortion.
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Because the women say, I can't go to church.
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God, I God knows what I've done.
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I'm unworthy to go to church.
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But if you and if you have the women give the testimonies, I sinned and Jesus saved me and I've been healed.
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But it was a terrible thing to go through.
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Then the women in your church don't feel condemned if you just speak against abortion, which you should do, but if you talk about the fee healing and forgiveness, they know there's forgiveness.
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But the youth, if they hear this, they've literally, we know of youth who've literally saved another baby's life in their high school by getting this information to the parents who are trying to force them to have an abortion.
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It stops parents because the law.
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They think abortion is okay because the Supreme Court, many women tell me I was a good girl.
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I would never have broken the law.
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I knew I wouldn't do a broken law, but the Supreme Court had said it was okay.
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And the doctor told me it was okay, and it wasn't a human.
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Now they're not saying that to justify themselves.
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They they've confessed and admitted it's a sin, but that's what they thought going into the clinic, and that's what lots of Americans think.
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Uh because that's what they've been told by the Supreme Court.
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That's right.
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Quick question for you.
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Um you talked about forced abortions.
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Uh could you substitute the word coerced?
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Yes.
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You talk about that?
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Yes.
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We use uh the terms usually uh coerced, forced, or unduly pressured.
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Like even if a parent just says to a girl, oh, you stupid slut, why are you pregnant?
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You're trash.
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You'll never be able to take care of a baby.
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You better abort this thing and get rid of it, or you're going to be just known as a slut everywhere in the neighborhood.
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They they can just emotionally abuse the child until their will breaks.
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Because the question in the voluntary involved is whose will is being done.
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I'll tell you the first time I ever really got involved heavily.
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A young lady had told us when the abortion was going to occur.
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Saturday morning at 9 o'clock at so and so.
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And I'll make up a name to protect her identity.
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But she had not given me permission to talk to her mother.
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She said, I'll take care of it.
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But I hadn't heard that the mom had changed her mind.
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So I went to the abortion clinic on Saturday morning, and I had lots of people praying for me.
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I'd never done this before in my life.
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And uh I said to the first two girls, Sally, is that you?
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No.
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Sally, is that you?
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No.
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The first one says, Sally, yes.
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And she said I said, I'm Alan Parker.
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I'm the attorney that's been talking to you.
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I can help you stop this abortion if you don't want it.
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And she said, I don't want this abortion.
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I can't fight my mother anymore.
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Right then her mother came out and said, Who are you?
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And I said, Ma'am, I'm a lawyer.
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I represent thousands of women hurt by abortion.
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I don't want your daughter to be hurt by abortion.
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I'm the lawyer, but she's been talking to me.
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She said, Well, I think we ought to call the police on you.
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And I just said calmly, and I think that was the first time I thought about it.
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Ma'am, I think you're right.
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I think we should call the police.
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And she took her daughter and ran inside, and I called the police.
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And I said, sir, I'm here to report a forced abortion coercion, uh, abortion, because the young lady told me I don't want this abortion, but I can't fight my mother anymore.
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That's not a voluntary abortion.
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I'm here, I'll be here.
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You can come and ask me as a witness.
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They came out, they went in, they came back later and said, There's not going to be any abortion today.
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We're getting child protective services involved in this.
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Praise God.
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That's wonderful.
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Then the parents' coercion can be, I'm kicking you out of my house.
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What child can support themselves?
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Well, or they can say, we're going to beat you with an inch of your life.
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Any threat of physical abuse is child abuse, and then he actually doing it as child abuse.
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Another one is uh, we're going to take away your car, or something other way.
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The question, whose will's being done.
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That's right.
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Amen.
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Well, Project Asia is one of the uh initiatives of Black Robe Regiment that we've been doing for 10 years, and we have um prayed in front of multiple uh abortion centers.
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We've seen foreclose as a result of people out there praying and sidewalk counseling.
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And we have uh heard many stories like that where women are there because a boyfriend or a parent was forcing them to go in, and and they felt like they they had no choice.
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So it's it's very common.
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I did read recently that 60% of all abortions were uh uh the women felt they were being forced.
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Um it is something of uh, you know, yes, if they're just being forced by their circumstances, I can't take care of a baby.
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That's not coercion.
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But if if planned parent is forcing them into it, or uh uh caseworkers or something, or the man, the three I've talked about.
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It can also be the boy's father.
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Many of our women are pressured by the force.
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It could be the school counselors.
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And since you do sidewalk counseling, you should always have our dear police letter and our dear letter to school counselors and social workers, because when you or anyone else report this to the police or child protective services, uh, then you need to send them the dear police letter or and the dear school counselor letter, uh, because otherwise they may say, we can't do anything about it, or worse, they'll tell the girl, you have to do what your parents tell you.
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And the law, the letters have a the a legal case in there where school counselors were sued by the girl and the boy for being forced to have an abortion.
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They kept telling them things like, Don't be stupid, don't tell your parents, we'll raise the money for this abortion, we'll take you to the clinic, you don't have to do anything.
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This is what you need to do.
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And then the boy and girl regretted killing their child.
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The court said teachers could be sued for violating their constitutional rights.
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When you're pregnant, you have a constitutional right in America to direct the upbringing education of your child.
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You are a mother the moment you're pregnant.
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The man is a father the moment she's pregnant or with child is what I say.
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The moment the sperm and the egg come together from a commencement in the words of our foul members, who were smarter than the abortion industry today, yeah, partly because they had the word of God.
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And he says, before you were born, I knit your bones together in your mother's womb before you were born.
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Before you're born.
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There weren't any X-rays back then, but God knew what was going on.
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That's right.
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And two things that are amazing today.
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If you look at the spark of life videos, there's a beautiful spark of life that comes together when the sperm and the egg come together.
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It's a it's a spark of life.
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God says, let there be light, and there is life.
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Oh, yeah, it's wonderful that video that shows that.
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Yes.
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So, Alan, um tell us your website again for those who wish to contact you, uh, please.
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The main website is the Justice Foundation.org.
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We're a nonprofit.
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That's why it's org.
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We represent all our clients at no charge.
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We help women stop forced abortion at no charge because we work on uh charities, uh, contributions.
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You can make a donation, you can get free legal resources because there's three things on there.
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There's life in the Constitution.
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You can sign the declaration that we've made in honor of the 250th anniversary.
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And all these arguments we talked today, they're on two pages, including the safe haven law and everything.
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They can help you in political arguments, and then uh Operation Outcry is there.
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If you're a woman who's had an abortion, you can get resources to for healing confidentially.
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Materials are there that you can help prevent forced abortion as a sidewalk counselor or as a speaker in schools or as a pregnancy center.
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All there on the website.
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Praise God.
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Thank you very much.
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Uh, folks, thanks for joining us.
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Also, want to just say if you want to know more about America's Black Rob Regiment, go to our website at VR USA.org.
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You can subscribe there.
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You can also make a donation simply by texting the word black to the number 53445.
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We're a nonprofit of what's called a 508 C1A organization.
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Um want to close with the words of Ben Franklin.
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Ben Franklin was asked, uh, what kind of government have you given us?
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A woman asked him after they ratified the Constitution.
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Franklin replied, A republic, if you can keep it.