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George Knapp Alleges Lockheed Martin Held 'Unusual Material' · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast.
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  This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads that
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  shape SpaceX, Tesla X, the Boring Company and Neurolink.
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  I'm your host will Walden. On Tuesday, during the House
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  Oversight Committee meeting, UAP or UFO journalist George Knapp
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  claimed that Lockheed Martin had stored an unusual material that
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  was not made from here at a facility in California.
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  So I want to bring this up because SpaceX and Lockheed
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  Martin are competitors. They are in the same aerospace
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  industry. And I want you to hear
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  everything about all the competitors and also SpaceX on
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  this show. So I want you to listen to
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  George Knapp now. George Knapp has been known to,
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  let's say, exaggerate the truth in the past and has claimed that
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  there are things that are real that we've never been proven.
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  So he's the basically like the typical UFO guy that makes their
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  living by talking about UFOs. And George Knapp seems like a
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  nice guy. I don't want to throw him under
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  the bus, but I want you to hear about this quote, unusual
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  material that was not made here in a facility in California that
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  George talks about. And I'm not into UFOSII don't, I
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  don't think they're real. And in a lot of ways, I know
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  there are unidentified things in the air that probably more than
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  likely are not from another planet or another solar system
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  or anything like that. So I want you to take that into
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  consideration as well when you listen to this.
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  And before we get started, I'm going to leave a link in the
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  show notes for you. And I have a business that I
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  want to tell you about. And this is my business.
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  I help businesses and small creators either start or
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  I've been in the YouTube business for, I don't know, 10
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  years now. I've been in media for 20 plus
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  years. Whether it was in radio or I
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  was, I was in pirate radio. Pirate radio actually, back in
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  the day, which is pretty funny. College radio, television
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  stations worked as an operative, sorry, an operator, camera
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  have had this podcast for four plus years.
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  it in the top 15. So you know I know what I'm
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  successful. I've helped other people grow
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  That's all it was actually. It was just consistency,
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  consistency, consistency. That's the one thing that I will
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  So there's a link in the show notes.
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  If you're in that position. Please click on it, check it
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  out. And I guess let's listen to
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  George Knapp and just take this all with a grain of skull salt,
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  OK? Because he's a UFO guy and you
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  know how they are, right? Take care, everybody.
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  I now recognize Mr. Knapp for his opening statement.
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  Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Miss Crockett,
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  and members of the task force. And Dina Titus.
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  I just knew we were going to get you involved in this topic at
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  one point. Great to see you here.
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  I'm George Knapp, chief investigator reporter at KLESTV
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  in Las Vegas. I began my pursuit of this weird
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  mystery way back in 1987, and for 38 years I've always
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  approached this as a new story. It's not a matter of faith or
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  belief. To me, it's a story, and it's an
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  important one. I'm proud to be here alongside
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  these witnesses today, men who have seen strange things and
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  step forward to tell the world about it.
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  Whistleblowers and witnesses who step up are routinely insulted,
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  belittled, or worse. They risk their reputations,
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  their careers, their clearances, their livelihoods, and sometimes
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  much more than that, even their freedom.
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  I know that one of the goals of the task force here is to figure
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  out ways to protect whistleblowers and witnesses.
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  And it's a tall order because so many of the things that happened
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  to witnesses like these are extra legal.
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  They're carried out by persons unknown, as Mr. Dave Grush,
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  sitting up at the top of the room knows all too well,
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  including events in recent days to that have happened to him.
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  I want to share a couple of things that I've I've learned
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  along the way in this long journey.
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  And I submitted most of that in written form because I estimate
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  that my statement here today would take about 4 1/2 hours.
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  So I'm going to try to jump over and, and touch on the more
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  important salient points. I submitted the detailed written
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  statement for the record, and we'll go into a lot of that
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  here. But the, you know, the public
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  has been told over and over since the late 40s there's
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  nothing to worry about here. There.
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  These mysterious craft seen by millions of people in the skies,
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  in the oceans, over the land are not real.
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  They're not a threat. The witnesses are wrong.
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  They're crackpots. Don't believe it.
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  That changed for me. What got me hooked is the paper
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  trail documents that were squeezed out of the US
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  government after the FOIA Freedom of Information Act
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  became the law of the land. And those documents paint a much
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  different picture than what the public, the press, and Congress
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  have been told over many years. The documents from military and
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  intelligence personnel behind closed doors admit that, quote,
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  these things are real, They're not fictitious.
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  They can fly in formation, they're evasive, and they
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  outperform any aircraft known to exist, including ours.
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  The public, of course, as I said, has been told something
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  much different. You know, back in 1989, I
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  reported about a guy named Bob Lazar who claimed that he worked
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  at a facility dubbed S4 out in the Nevada desert very near to
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  Area 51. He said he was part of a reverse
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  engineering program. He said there are alien craft
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  that will be taken apart to figure out how they operated out
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  there. And that's it was a pretty tall
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  order. I'd clearly taken a dive into
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  the deep end of the pool there. But in the years since then,
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  I've interviewed dozens of other people and I've detailed what
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  their testimony has been in the written statement.
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  They include Senator Harry Reid, Senator Howard Cannon, also of
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  Nevada, guy named Al O'Donnell, who is the first general manager
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  of EG and G in Nevada, which managed the Nevada Test Site,
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  which blew up hundreds of nuclear weapons.
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  There's a guy named Doctor James Lakatsky, who was a career
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  scientist with the Defense Intelligence Agency, who was the
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  guy who initiated a program called ASAP Advanced Aerospace
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  Weapons Systems Application Program, which is as far as we
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  know, the largest acknowledged UFO program ever funded by the
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  US government. Which put together an amazing
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  pile of information that members of this committee and the world,
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  most of which they have never seen.
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  The DIA still hasn't released 95% of what was prepared by that
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  program at a cost of millions and millions of dollars.
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  The one name I do want to bring up in this section session
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  though is Robert Bigelow. So looking into the idea of
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  crash retrievals and reverse engineering.
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  While at OSAP, that program was active.
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  The DI as contractor Robert Bigelow of Las Vegas made a bold
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  attempt to acquire physical proof of UFO crashes.
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  It's been widely reported and suspected that Lockheed Martin
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  is one of the contractors. The defense contractors that has
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  held this stuff stored it away in secrecy and tried to figure
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  out how it works. I have confirmed on the record
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  that Robert Bigelow and a trusted colleague from OSAP met
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  with and negotiated with senior executives at Lockheed Martin
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  and hammered out a deal where in Bigelow's company, Bass would
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  receive a quantity of unusual material that had been stashed
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  away and protected at a facility in California.
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  That material was not made here. I want to move on now to the
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  Russia files because that was going to be sort of the central
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  impetus of what I was going to talk to you about today.
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  Back in the early 90s, I got into Russia, met with a number
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  of their defense officials, Ministry of Defense and others
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  who confirmed for me that Russia had been doing the same thing.
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  They didn't. the United States had been doing, that is,
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  secretly studying UFOs while publicly saying something
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  completely different. The documents and interviews
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  that I obtained and have now shared with this task force, a
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  show that the USSR launched what is almost certainly the largest
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  UFOUAP investigation in the world.
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  The first phase of that was a order was sent out to the entire
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  USSR military empire that every unit you see anything strange in
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  the sky, a craft and orb, something unusual.
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  You had to gather all the evidence, collect testimony from
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  the witnesses, look for physical evidence, and all of that
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  information went into one program at the Ministry of
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  Defense. Thousands and thousands of these
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  reports came in. A lot of them were first routed
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  to the KGB, but then back to another program that came after
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  this collection effort called Thread 3, and Thread 3 was an
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  analysis program. We have provided to the
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  committee the documents of what they were trying to do, and
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  essentially they were trying to build their own UFOs.
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  They were using the information from their observations and
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  studies to try to figure out that technology.
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  The guy who was in charge of that program, Colonel Boro
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  Sokolow, told me that their goal was to basically develop
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  technology that would be superior to anything we had
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  based on what they learned from UFOs.
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  Mr. Knapp, just in the name of time, my understanding, did you
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  have anything you wanted to submit for Congress to see in
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  this committee? I have submitted those documents
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  there's. To play.
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  And at this point, George plays a a video for the people there,
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  but it's very muffled and hard to hear.
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  So I couldn't let you hear it because it just didn't come out.
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  Well, after mastering and checking it out for a while, it
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  just didn't work out. So just what did you think?
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  Let me know what you thought in the comments.
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