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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_BONUS SHOW_HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON (1) · DA CREW Podcast

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Angela and welcome to season two. I want to thank you for tuning in
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and for all of your support throughout season one. We're back them devas up
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the airways, so thank you for joining us tonight. Hello, hello,
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hello, hello, and welcome to The Crew Podcast. I don't know what
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happened to Shanette, but I am not your host for tonight. I'm waiting
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for Shannette to come back in. We were having some technical difficulties. That's
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why we are going live late. But there are some issues, so hopefully
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she will come back on. If not, we're gonna end this show early
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because I am not prepared for tonight. I know, y'all like she's not
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prepared. Yeah, I'm not prepared for tonight. Tonight. I'm not feeling
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my best, so I'm definitely not prepared. So I just try to be
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obedient, so I'm here to make sure that the airways are open. I
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do have her guests in the studio. I have her guests. I'm here
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with me. He is I'm calling in. I don't I know what similar
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what the conversation is gonna be, But I don't know what questions she's gonna
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ask. Y'all know we're all about injustice and wrongfully and overly incarceration within the
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state of Texas and in Colorado right now. Colorado is another state that we
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are focused on right now, but we are not limited to those two states.
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Those are just the states that we're just happen to have loved ones incarcerated
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in right now, so we are definitely fighting for for them. I am
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waiting for sett hopefully she will be in, but I have Cornell on the
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phone. That is her guests for tonight. Cornell, Cornell, I don't
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know if they can hear you, but if you would please share with the
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listeners who you are and those that are tuned in, If y'all would just
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give me a heart, give me a thumbs up, or just coming in
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a comment section, let me know that you can hear Cornell, because we
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do have issues when they're calling in. I know y'all can hear me,
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but y'all won't be able to hear him. But I want to make sure
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that you'll can hear him, So I'm gonna turn it over to him.
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Now. Please let me know if you cannot hear him. Mister Cornell,
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the floor is yours. My situation started, uh you know when because he
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wants to win the brig when they left. So after they left, they
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finally came back later to about throwing good but you know the so another running
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back and took me in Hu and he was crying because the guy that he
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had had with her with Glig had left. The well, she couldn't be
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missing with this guy so much because he had a hid so sometime maybe he
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had something well the okay, So after that, the count was a great
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He came for me to question me about and when he came about her,
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okay, he reported to the police and her name. But what they know
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is the fact that he was with her the last before she was found.
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So because when we about her at death more than there so he didn't see
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into a fight, but a lot of that was so he came back.
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Yeah, I end up to an another friend to go with him. And
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while we were talking about to win the gregs a fight. Yeah, I'm
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gonna send the mine. And then he person about Well. I tell him
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sing about her because I didn't know her, but he didn't I'm true because
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he knows that he came from the great battle brother by the ball find that
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was going to kill me. Okay, it's a lot of ball. He
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came to me around the corn to the play well, but friends going out
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of work, but suit me with but I the weapons and the weapon where
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the bott from the weapon went to the wall of the house and kill less
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to when he rased well, when the clowning and more than regarded the lit
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and they killed Okay on the road. I was the police, that was
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well. He ended up in the ris and while was the general. They
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gave me an attorney and the attorney was turn and this mean that the weapons
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they got from the hands of the great was the well. I was a
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confused about that because I was a lift to the wall of the house.
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When eventually they just started conversently to this, so they actually door trial w
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and then the fact that trial well, my attorney tur Well, I convin
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so they postpone the case, postpone the case and postpone the Well they changed
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a line because on the same the problem attorney he didn't come back to court,
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so that was another postpone. So we led you mean he was a
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Forumber assistant district party. Well, by the time headed the whole to court,
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they found another chase for only while I'm living in jail, which is
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a really able to control subsequence case. Put me in for that chase and
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the gas that Kingdom acted for the same for the money case. Well,
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never know that Jersey had approached me to all white juke tribe on the Jersey
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over the conviction of that case postponed but not three month when we got the
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court from the the same thing to lock the door and they put themself behind
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me the court with me and they put me between another own money to the
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spot well my loss allowing him to find me in court. The fotified that
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showed me a fact convisioned for these cases. Really, did I know my
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lawyer and now the court that he was the former just a charney in this
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court for them. Well, I kind of feel something was strange with that.
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Wedn't know the law that was after the prediction, they gave you a
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quart of corner. The floor was also another quart of y isn't just a
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chain, but thinking about peoples way, this was not something that no recode
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was at the Court of Appeals to anferm my convention well vacations to challenge my
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commition for being locally A lot of the doctors that was used to completely from
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the fire. Then all of the doctors that were used. The competent was
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taken from the win to ensue doctors. You see, I choose my promission
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taking certain doctors on my file and one of them come to learn that the
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government they used in my file. It was never released from the police department
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to be testified. The question was how did smific expert justify the files?
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Never said when the chiefs mc farrel and say that the chievement life case,
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he was allowed to let the testify as the citizens. So because my face
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ended up being prosecuteded based upon false ever asked her the testimony in full,
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the five seven documents. So as a writing man, I've got it the
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same. I po shot my conviction become to fin ol sven seven direct the
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pist and twenty two fifty four when we said fun center lasso because of expressed
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movie. Before she went to the police departmatics, O say for a rectors
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when she comes to none, My records will never know where to be found
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in the police department, answer said to the office of the Attorney General in
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nineteen ninety four. So she's the per to me. But what I've done
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just in the document I saw a member from the Sanatorial City Attorney to the
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hopicide to office. Well, the prinimal was from October twelve, nineteen ninety
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four, where a ballistic support that I was using was dated over the twelve
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nineteen ninety four, which is the same. The fis a doctor. The
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inside contailor was working through the doctor that I had just received from the Attorney
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dot office. Nor behold, I was another fistic report which is worth the
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original and they didn't have no business to the inside contailor. The woman has
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been testifying, so now SUPERSTI reports were for twelve twenty nineteen ninety and the
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other one is the twelve twenty nineteen one, when one by the entire containing
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and one was one. Well, they can't conclude that the doctor insist to
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show the mark and put a down on the piece of paper and called me
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the piece of paper or to the copy machine at the Sanitorial Police department.
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And that's the document that they said me and I came ready for to us
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and challenge my condition says also was in the doctors that I received from attorney
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George Robin gives up a for g risk. One of my pas was never
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signed. It's never dating and this man name rip the best things and the
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report which is too easy for I even went the court. But mind yourself,
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the gn has never been said to be distin. That's the course of
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the remains. How did the same name getting and why is the sign?
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Well, my risk was to give my risk to the justice of the peace
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take me to the system District Turkey. She became my prosecutor in my face.
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So after she became my fund my case conviction of the mean and from
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standing leverage and investigation of because the friends and things it broke out and this
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with the que that altified for the districtturneys off stations to a proviction below.
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So we're not behold the start doctor which just on't my case, and the
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physics said that's mister well there was the Coca lang said, and mister Dallie
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went to the th Court to sell out a lawsuit, and he said that
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this operation of a bigger operation of an ever the fixing scandal, and that
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it belongs to doctor guns and jail the mab and the district turns as well
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because he had been the disagement and Langugain ninety three. They didn't want to
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so it turned along. Everybody was comfortable. Well, my sus became the
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system, my system, the exchange to our court, district attorney and count
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end up becoming a brand for the district attorneys offer. My district attorney became
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the the court of people. Everything not been following my cases and who put
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me here in the FLP cut dollarsands. The busy learned that the operation is
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more bigger than just fixing up. And then what they call it and the
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jenis the lat campaigns where chenages the fire quarter, part of the attorney's of
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representation, the people turning off the stat district attorney who have been double being
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a moment attorneyees to help get your conviction. My prosecutory is the care for
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the two. In twenty and ten she got count and what that means is
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that she would be maybe dole the amount of money's desire just names that her
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form to propecute, chase and answer resident and its independent where they ended to
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saving her while because they gave us ten years start probation mistais makes the corruptions
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conturn her Why because pachump and died the operation pattern of her humis m h
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M. The prosecute of death frien because my students became pret but when it
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was to several prices, the convicts they point justice. This operation is way
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more peace than just fixing up. And that changes more than he ain't convent
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party courthouse or run an amazing operation to have good convictions on people that he
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could read that that he couldn't do anything about it. Well, it's just
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that I found my case for it in her saying PREMI from the District Urns
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office, from the Court of Appeal from the Units State District Court. And
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it's black figure out of Big a Canny has been convicted by all white too,
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and it's up here on the company unit and it's one of us out
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of life film out of bear count. So the direction man about the corruption
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that's going on in Big County is way more my blog and be just fixing
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evidence. Now the Sertainty Police Department is involved, the office is involved.
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There a joint inspiration for the Bear County District turns off because of this,
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this thoudred and thousands incasions of people that even sitting on death books. So
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right now I'm beg and beg and buy emotion the complaints to reopen the nineteen
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ninety two Bear County ever fixing candles and say that this operation that their runner
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has been some people to print them. They sell the law complete of the
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case of criminal justice system where anything that I found has been purpular has been
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marked with the red cape and right reasons depending In the United States is the
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court against the Bear count of Police Department, I mean the Santonia Police Department
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in the Bear countatic bunt where the Gensy rule or the case is the same
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genus who rule back in nineteen ninety two to reopen the nineteen ninety two others
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fictional family where he's saying that the sun your convictions no good, but he's
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not the doing thing to them that the courts more than my condition is no
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good with our case without even a nifying at sixty m hm mm hmm operations
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on Beer County. This is rated in the county all around the state of
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Texas. This is the states. We have what we call a foreign in
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Texas. The chers have instructed yet this fraternity not in that black indivision was
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on the tram for black defenders, and that is the number one came for
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that. In the case of the militay is that dude was convicted the nineteen
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nine, right, nineteen sixty nine by all white children. This man has
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throated all around the state of pitt This is the town. It's a beer
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county, it's a charring county, and it's an office county. And Jerseys
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and the lawyers have falledself this operation of black being competing about all white Jersey.
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So now with the said the operation has turned into a traditional operation.
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If not just out for America being convinced by all white tubes, but abou
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the issue of our criminal justice system in Texas. UH BAMA six donation campaign,
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robbery, UH double billing in the whole nine yards. So we spot
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some things for our favorite previnity. I take the Senator Jens Brod and everybody
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in the bount these operations that claim in the future in our courthouse here is
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the process is another point issue that times cleaners in sea consistency. We do
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not know who hitting a rangers from this casing in the county. The was
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no poman of the Great what said to come to a potment of the Grand
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super to fill up on the United So these operations of the operations to which
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we are trying to push down that following our crominals because the operations of violating
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our constitutional life. So because Texas was where the own constitution, it's very
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hard for us to get me leave because state to the states that we shall
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be able to do process and the equal protection was involved where Texas is the
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format plan ends up the law comes from, you know, whether or not
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the process of going leaning and horrible to the people and they feel like the
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process is going leaning the constitution. So with that thing, you know,
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we don't have no real turn and we needed them. So a ball from
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the come oh wow, wow, wow. I wanted to ask him do
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Like over in Denver, they had a case going on over there where when
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the jury was being picked it was an officer going under cover and just to
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get the theory minorities kicked off the caps. Do he think that's happening over
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there? Since this the jury is all white, he's gonna have to call
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back. No, what what they are doing? What what? From my
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understanding, what they are doing is they have instructed the judges have instructed I
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guess whoever is in charge of picking the jury. I guess that would be
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the foreman that oversees or whatever. But what they have been instructed to do
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is to not even present any black people. So you know how, I
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guess when whenever we whenever you get these notices in the mail saying that you
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got to report to support. So whenever the black people show up, they
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just automatically, you know, dismiss them or whatever. They never get in
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a position to where they are picked. And it's a manual. They found
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a like a novel, a book. Somebody found this book in the state
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of Texas and it outlines exactly telling them do not have blacks on the jury.
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This is the book that they go by. See a lot of people
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texts us to be a Democrat state. It is a Republican state now.
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And for the likes of me, I don't see how they became Republican.
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What they did was they used a lot of Mexicans, a lot of Hispanics,
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and that's how they got in. That's how the Republicans got in.
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But now maybe I don't even know when all of this stuff that's going on
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that with what they're doing because the governor there now, Governor Abbott, he
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took three one hundred and eighty six million dollars from the prison system to use
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at the border in twenty twenty two. So we talk about the taking up
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all of that money from the prison system in twenty twenty two, and then
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you look at what is taking place right now, what is happening within the
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prison system. I'm getting calls every from individuals about stuff that is happening and
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his unit at con at McConnell and just different units within TDC. Jack,
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stuff that's happening. Shouldn't has a question for you, Cornell, he's back,
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okay. I just wanted to know. We're over in Denver. Denver
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had a big case going over there. It made the papers where an officer
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from another county was going to the when the jury was getting picked, went
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in there and like basically found out about you know, talk to the blacks
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and Hispanic people. You know, they're getting their perspective on the officers and
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seeing how would they vote, and then she would go back to the to
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the DA and they would have them dismissed. So it was no black jurors
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that was on that case. Be if they you know, said anything negative
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towards an officer or I had a certain kind of feeling towards an officer,
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So I just wanted to know, do you think that's happening over there in
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Texas? Okay, ma'am when you're getting with the secret, ma'am, where
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we don't know what's going onpossible that is going on. And they rewrote the
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whole break a couple of people because the initial process for the process that the
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bus to know what's going on with the brand jew But because of the sacred
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process they have not the fact that why because they was by great jewry racket
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Hue who were the nieces to suit on the Grande and the po people.
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Well, when that conservation was reveal random this operation has been playing all across
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the state of Texas, not only just the state, but all around the
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program. Okay, it was it was sure a couple of months ago now,
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and he was explaining that the convutional aality peticuly of the grand jury and
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like you said, from the United States, man is a violations to process
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and then condition is in violation because there's no no j dediction because of the
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way play jury processes of the secrecy has been playing around. So the possibility
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that and he's going around. That guy is going around two different states and
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he is suing. He is going to the state capitol. He is protesting
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and he is suing them. He is he is launching lawsuits against the state
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or whatever for for just what Cornell just said. He was in Texas,
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He's been in South Carolina. He's filed lawsuit against South Carolina. He's filed
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lawsuit again in Ohio. He filed lawsuit uh in in DC. He's been
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filing lawsuits all around the country because he said it is a violation. What
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is the guy's name? He was on the show. He was on my
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show. He was he was the one that we were having all those technical
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difficults and we ended up going live just from my phone because they they we
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went live. He was on and didn't it keeped him out and he would
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not let him back in and he kept having issues so he couldn't get on.
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But this man goes around to all different kinds of he had rallies,
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he do all kinds of stuff. But he is on a a what is
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the man's name? What is his name? I think I know what he
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did? What did They said he was missing or something a while ago?
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Yeah, he was, he was, he was. He's been on He's
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been on Chill Show. Yeah, I know, I know talking about and
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I didn't even know who he was. But a guy that Cornell knows down
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in Texas that works with Bryce Jones. Bryce Jones was introduced us to him.
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But he's been on to Chilla Show too. He's been he he was
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missing and he was letting everybody knows his name. Oh, I follow him
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on social media? What is his name? I don't remember the name?
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That was the friend and what we're talking, Okay, you conspetential number of
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process that process and this is Wheal and we have a say that we are
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the number one the maturity you know right now use in Dallastown. But that's
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the most of the because they're not seeing beauty from them, the being resented
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by district of Church, which is the proces the United States land matter of
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fact, in the state of Texas. Why because from the States. So
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if you can't get something, you can. But they serve the same pubs
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for the public Concernative Office that the WARS represents CATO case that has been secur
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the United States plans are no whys number one location most of the one and
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the state sectors are anywhere man ubble calls, which means that no comforable cause
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you cannot hold me to further proceeding, which means that you cannot take me
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nor can you put me there for anything. In this case get no good
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in the case of the limited versus the city, and its pointed out that
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every county have been over without a figor to deturn the poorble. So the
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best happened than you take checked it out, happened down to tell that happened
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in Charny County. So this is a process that would not looking into it
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the Troy potocons of our systems. Instead of a technical protocol, we have
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to go back and look at the mandatory protocol of how the station is a
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prediction the two process where I don't know what you something to start from an
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investigation at the court. So this is right there, man initiate anything going
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for and if no conditions like campable but not processing, words capable but not
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process, and the fact that an evident they're here needs to be here.
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The determinal probable calls an propecute of the Jews by selling that's the seven courts
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as can be heard at before a plan assistant just the attorneys to represent any
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defends knowing that it's so staperd. The visits that take the senater the law
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make up here in the state of Chake, they have a long process.
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The marim it's saying because we have say in our phone, we have people
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been framing about the system, ma'am. Will nobody say anything? Okay,
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they're not. I have his name is uh Tanner Dowwe Yes, definitely yeah,
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uh I'll follow follow him and I heard can speak on speak on him
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a while ago. Mm hm. And you know I want to know,
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have like the N double a CP looked into any of any complaints or over
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there. Okay, man, they're part of it, the part of it.
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We ain't gonna we ain't finished sugar coat this. We're not finished sugarcoat,
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this cornerer. They part of this, They are part of they are
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part of it. I have looked at different people that had different things.
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They put people. What they do in the State of Texas is they put
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people like us in positions to do nothing. They put people that they know
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that will buy down to them and we'll go along with whatever they're doing.
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And just they just want the power and the prestige. They don't want to
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do nothing. And that's what I'm coming across in the state of Texas.
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But I've looked into some of the different people that work that's a part of
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the na a CP. They're in Texas. They in cahoots. They friends
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and buddies with the police officers and the different people that work at these different
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facilities. The the the man that had the the the na a CP branch
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that in in Texas, he friends with with the guy that works in and
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the guy that works in San Antonio or police department. If I'm not mistaken,
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the the police chief. If I'm not mistaken, Wow, you know,
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uh wow Junior and UH club and uh Gras Foundation, George Validation,
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any project, UH Commissions on the conduct uh stay h uh uh commission protecting
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the board maybe and the operations round and everybody, but that you do not
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have enough information or you do not have no evidence, or that you need
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legal representation. Well about going to a process. M is the legal representations
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in order to Boston complaint? What is the accus to the money? And
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that I have fun so the turn and right the fifth, I have both
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in my convictions. I don't think both of my convictions and symptoms, but
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MS and the same sists to open up for the term pole has turned out
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to be also okay here in the State of prespected for across on the parole
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war define system has turned. So there's a parol systems MM offer or le
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boards the of the world to be dropped. I came back, so then
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the board is opportuning too. The State of Kings traditional brand. The government
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must yourself. It used to be the wind has to please me, what
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my prepare, my work times and my friends and people myself. The prole
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board has no recreations. The time we were going to talk to the where
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you came to us, don't do anything with you. So that's what they
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did. Any One is a pot for I don't believe be Quenou said yourself
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after thirty four years, Well my question the first woman that was from Big
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Bank, Well right, kay, I mean gonna take your process product?
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You know. I just I just spoke to someone probably about an hour ago.
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He's going to be on the show on u T on Monday, and
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he was telling me that they don't you over there in Denver. They won't
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let allow them to start programming or taking classes until five years before they go
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to the pro parole board. So they were sent tense like to thirty years.
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They had to bring them twenty five before they get They had to do
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twenty five years before they get to the parole board. So in between that
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time, they constantly have to really program theyself. They have to do it
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theyself before they get to the program. So, I mean how And that's
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what's happening in that If you listen, if the individuals that are in parts
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right their intake, they'll take you that they have rehabilitated themselves, that they
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have worked on them themselves, that they have done things themselves, and they'll
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worked with other individuals like they Cornell there they were in the process of starting
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this this movement. It was campus culture where they was working on, you
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know, doing and developing different things. They were even partnering with a university
43:15
out of Texas, ut whatever. And then they was also partnering with Goodwill.
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Good Will was gonna be coming in and teaching them and training them so
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that they would be able to, you know, be able to have skills,
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learn how to interview, learn how to do these things so when they
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get back into the world that they'll be able to go and interview for a
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job, be able to go out and you know, present themselves in a
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in a presentable way. You know, this is some of the things that
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those people over there with Cornell, those that you know go to back for
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themselves, that that the fend for themselves would stand up for themselves. That's
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what they were working on. Well, all of the son they it was
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planned for February. They got everything done. They were even getting different representatives
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to get involved in representatives to come in and they were going to be talking
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about, you know, just different things. You know, you have individuals
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that have and most of these people have not been just locked up for on
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five ten years. You talking about people that have spent over twenty twenty five
44:24
years incarcerated and had to have, you know, do these things for themselves.
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You know, I listened to them, and just like I listened to
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a my the other night. You know, he said it wasn't until he
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was in his thirdies that he realized, you know, that he had to
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get it together, you know. And and that's a lot, you know,
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a lot of them over there, you know, a lot of those
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junsters because they don't have nothing to do, because they don't have nothing for
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them to be involved, and they don't have no programs, they don't have
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nothing. You talk about with cornell them, it is if if you are
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out in the woods, if you are far away from civilization. Put it
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this way, if you're not in direct contact with them, if they can't
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drive to your facility, like if you ain't in the city, then they're
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not concerned about you because guess what, they not expecting nobody to come out
45:19
there and visit you because you way out there. So they focus all their
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stuff on the ones that are close in the city, where they can be
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where people can come and check on them. And that's where they pull all
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their time, that's where they pull out their energy, and that's where they
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pull all their money. But it's all about show. They want to be
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able to present. And one thing I've noticed since I was working with a
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lot of them that these people in cohoots with each other, they will not
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And one thing I'm hearing from the conversation that you're having with a lot of
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people out of Colorado is as well that a lot of these people know that
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a lot of stuff is going wrong within the ju judicial system in these processes.
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But because of these individuals power and authorities, they choose not to fight
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and choose not to want to be on that other end, on the right
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end. They don't want to be on the right end, because then the
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spotlight is gonna be on them because they stood up against these people, and
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then they don't want it right because then you got more people, You got
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more people that's on the bad end, that's gonna be looking because I'm looking
46:29
at a lot of these these representatives. These representatives, they speak a great
46:35
game to get in the position, but when they get in these positions,
46:38
everything that they've spoken it changes, like I don't see and then I go
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back. Just because they look like us, y'all, just because they look
46:50
like does not mean that they are for you, does not mean that they
46:53
are for you. I don't care if you Republican Democrat, I don't even
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go by all. If you're not for whatever rights that I'm for, that
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I ain't. You ain't. You're not getting my vote about and then for
47:13
with me. You know, I see these big name people I don't want
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I don't want to say their names, but we all know who they are.
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If it's not no headlining case that's gonna make them no money, they're
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not gonna come out and fight for you. They from you got being Crump,
47:31
you got, you got Parnell X, you got, you got doctor
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Candace, you got Ali Booker, you got all these people that are I
47:40
don't know. I don't call names because I'm want to put these people on
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the spot because, hey, you are you're supposed to be for us.
47:46
You're supposed to be out here fighting us. I see you doing this,
47:50
but really, what are you doing? Just doing money? Yeah? And
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so they see I don't get it. You know, how do we put
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how do we put a value on one person life over another person's life.
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We we can't do that, you know, we all, we all are
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valuable in God's side, no more value than the next person. You know,
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I dealt with the same situation during COVID. You know, I was
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called because I was the last person to to to to take the job,
48:30
so I was one of the first people that was let go. Well,
48:35
then, I guess people were upset because they were looking at Oh, she
48:39
had to go get her undeployment. I wasn't trying to just go get undeployment.
48:43
I was trying to work. You're talking about somebody that just come off
48:46
undeployment. I just come off undeployment when I came from Atlanta. I wasn't
48:51
trying to sit here and still be on undepartment. I was if I could
48:53
get a job. I was ready to go to work. But when they
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called me and they our later, they called me back and asked me if
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I could come back to work because there was another employee that needed to be
49:07
off because she was her health was more at risk than my health. Okay,
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well, who who who classified you and who who made you that authority
49:19
that you can say that. I said, well, I don't want to
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I don't want to come back. They got upset with me and they told
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me to enjoy my unemployment. Okay, I am store will and that's what
50:00
the upper nineteen five and six when because the bob door, okay bob,
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and do your work turning your bread equal the fillers and you have the move
50:22
sly let the board and the suction. So what do they do? We
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bother the door because you between yourself pinion, it was two years became day.
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If you have to yourself, oh it was so stopping the bombing door.
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Give the the Wong board to them to decide if they believe that a
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person has a can to belong to the emphasize, well you go to what
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they call for the program and co what that is too active running the protection.
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But they don't when it came in what you call the Texas system,
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which means you're concerned, because then we should let you go. The goota.
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The performations parole was long number love one and the concerning to explore the
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body you know sl move to parole I and who authorized who authorized out?
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Who authorized that? And is that part of the problem that is that is
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that hower's supposed to go. Well, if it's not how it's supposed to
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go, who authorized them to be able to block out that number? So
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that they cannot be seen because I thought that it was supposed to be able
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to be transparent. And you're supposed to be able to go on the website
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and be able to see a person's process of of of of being parole.
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Yeah, you're supposed to be able to see when they came up, if
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they got to set off, how long the set out was, and see
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what I think they need to do. And and then this is my thinking,
52:50
this is my thinking, and this is a proposal that I did for
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class. I said that if they're gonna do this, I feel like that
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when you've given these sets, that should be individual programs designed to track their
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progress when they come up for parole if you are denied, if they are
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denied parole the first time they are denied parole, then they should be put
53:14
on a track that will track them and help them to get to the point
53:21
of parole. And that way you can see where they are, you can
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monitor where they are, you can see the steps that they're taking, and
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you can keep track of it. And then if you if they're not where
53:30
they're supposed to be, if you're tracking them, and if they're not where
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they're supposed to be, then that's when you can give them a set out,
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and then that's got to be an outline you you got to be able
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to put into place. So if you're given somebody a seven year setout,
53:43
then in the seven years, if you need to outline what the seven year
53:47
plan is, what are supposed to happen the seven years, so that they
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can come up for parole and make parole the next time. But they don't
53:57
do that. They don't do that thing. They need to be the parole
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if you if you are constantly denying somebody setting somebody off, and we need
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to know why, what's the reason? And you can't keep being cold Number
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two, because you can't keep setting people out for something that cannot change.
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They can't change what crime they did. They cannot the crime that they did.
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It is not gonna change. I don't care how many years they did.
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The crime is still gonna be the crime. The charge be in charge,
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so that is not gonna change. So you cannot hold that against them.
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So that's something that needs to be took out. You cannot hold that
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against them in evaluation, So that need to be took out. They are
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so hold against when they getting you know, when they get right up since
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stuff, you know, and I figure that if they offer more programs well
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with tdc J. If you if you don't get right that's an issue.
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That's an issue with them. They feel, Yeah, if you don't get
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right up, then they feel like you are manipulating the system. They feel
55:08
like you are manipulating the system that you are playing that you you you you
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you you're not. Yeah, they ain't no way, Just do your time
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and go home. Exactly. Some people don't want to be Some people don't
55:22
want the extra years on until they onto the time that they served. Like
55:30
this. For example, I had a guy on here. He was he
55:34
had had four years. This man came to prison to do four years.
55:37
He was put in a facility that they was having riots. They was,
55:44
they was fighting, they was doing all kind of stuff. When he went
55:45
in, that boy, that man said he hadn't been there. I think
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he said he had been there two weeks. And they transferred a whole bunch
55:54
of people out because of the riot. And he got shipped too, And
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because he was a part of that, they gave everybody a charge. Everybody
56:05
that got shipped got a charge. That man didn't need. He hadn't even
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been there two weeks, so I saw they keeping them in there long enough.
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That's how they keeping them in there so they can continuously give free service
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out of free labor. Yeah, it's about well you know what you Yeah,
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Well, I do apologize. I was having a little problem on my
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end for being a little late. But I appreciate you guys for tuning in
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and with us on this evening, and hopefully we'll have Cornell back with us
56:50
and along with some other people from other men's from Texas so you can hear
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their story. I'll be back here on Monday at eight pm Eastern Standard time
57:04
five pm Pacific Standard time. Christopher Thomas will be join me, joining me
57:14
to talk about his case. And he was a juvenile when he went in.
57:20
He's also written one book since he been in and he's in the process
57:23
of writing another another book. I would like to leave this little quote with
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you that I found with you on this evening. Speak up, because the
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day you don't speak up for the things that matter to you is the day
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your freedom would truly end. I can't ask you, guys or more,
57:50
please speak up for your loved one't speak up for anybody that you know,
57:55
injustice in a hole and we don't speak up. Hell as you can see,
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they don't care. They really don't care. So until next time,
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you guys, enjoy your resurrection Sunday on tomorrow, enjoy your family and be
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safe. Love you, see you on Monday. Oh, I see all
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things ain't what they do, stupid wedded. All the blue skies but all
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as blue from the north something whoa