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- 0:02It's all. Going to zero against Bitcoin.
- 0:06It's going up forever. You're against Bitcoin, you're
- 0:16against freedom is that when something does happen, we don't
- 0:25even know how to process it. So, you know, I think, I think
- 0:27Bitcoin was a, it was a big invention make whether it was
- 0:30good or bad, but it was a pretty big deal and it was
- 0:33systematically underestimated for at least, you know, the
- 0:36first 10-11 years, you know, you could, you could trade it.
- 0:39It went up smoothly for 10-11 years.
- 0:41It didn't get repriced all at once because we're in a world
- 0:44where nothing big ever happens and and so we we have no way of
- 0:48processing it when something pretty big happens.
- 0:51The Internet was pretty big in 99.
- 0:53Bitcoin was moderately big. Internet was really big.
- 0:56Bitcoin was moderately big. And I'd say passing the Turing
- 1:00test is really big. It's on the same scale as the
- 1:02Internet yeah, welcome to simply Bitcoin live, your number one
- 1:06source for the peaceful Bitcoin revolutionary breaking news
- 1:08culture, aromatic warfare. We will be your guide through
- 1:11the separation of money and state.
- 1:13You have Peter Thiel, the Co founder of PayPal and you know
- 1:18one of the world's greatest investors, multi billionaire,
- 1:22saying the quiet part out loud, saying something that we've been
- 1:24saying about Bitcoin for quite a long time now.
- 1:27The difference is that he's doing it on the Joe Rogan
- 1:33podcast. This is the second most popular
- 1:35broadcaster on the face of the planet.
- 1:37He was the first up until recently, up till Tucker Carlson
- 1:40took that spot. But regardless, we need more of
- 1:44this. This is what I mean by moving
- 1:47the Overton window. Shifting the Overton window, you
- 1:50have a very, very smart man. He said in the past that, you
- 1:53know, he wishes he's, he's acquired more Bitcoin, someone
- 1:57who founded PayPal. So he probably knows what he's
- 1:58talking about. And he's saying like, look like
- 2:01the reason that Bitcoin and first of all, Bitcoin is huge.
- 2:06But the reason that people have such a hard time understanding
- 2:09how big it is is because it's one of those moments in history
- 2:14where there's a pivotal shift coming.
- 2:17And because it doesn't happen very often, people seem to kind
- 2:22of dismiss it. He laid out the case on that
- 2:25show that there was three things that happened there was the
- 2:28Internet. Like, think about how radically
- 2:30different your life is today compared to when you know it
- 2:35back in the 90s, right? Or in the in the 2000s when the
- 2:39Internet was just getting started.
- 2:42And then the next step was Bitcoin radically redefining
- 2:47what money is. I think he's a little bit, I
- 2:49think he's wrong in the sense that I think it is going to be
- 2:53monumental in terms of how society organizes itself just
- 2:57because of the amount of power that it gives the individual.
- 3:00And then he talks about AI, right?
- 3:03And think about how those things have like, you know, changed
- 3:06your life in a way, right? The Internet just allows us to
- 3:09do what we're doing right now. Mass scale, worldwide
- 3:12peer-to-peer communications. I remember like back in the day,
- 3:16if you were to call Europe or you'd call like overseas, it
- 3:20would like literally cost you an arm and a leg.
- 3:22It'd be like $3 a minute or something insane like that.
- 3:25So the Internet just allowed the world to connect itself.
- 3:28And it's like immediate news, immediate video, anything you
- 3:32want to see on your fingertips, you can order food to your home.
- 3:35Then the Bitcoin is coming. And then of course, AI and I
- 3:38think we're in the first iterations of the whole AI
- 3:40thing. Like I remember when like
- 3:43ChatGPT first came out and then like Grok, like on Twitter with
- 3:48like the AI images and stuff. Remember how bad it was like
- 3:50three or four years ago? It was, it was horrific, it was
- 3:53terrible. Now it's like, it's, it's like
- 3:56finally reaching that like critical point where it's usable
- 4:01and you can just, and I know it's, it's a little bit biased
- 4:04depending on which AI you use, right?
- 4:06But you can just ask it any type of question.
- 4:08Remember how you used to have to Google that stuff and it like,
- 4:11used to not give you like, pretty good.
- 4:13Like, you used to like, have to Google like it.
- 4:15It was like part of researching. Now you can just ask it a
- 4:18question, you can have a typo in it, and it will still, like,
- 4:22give you an answer. And imagine that five years from
- 4:24now, right? It's going to be absolutely
- 4:26insane. So, yeah, I think over the last,
- 4:28you know, 20-30 years, there was only really three things that
- 4:32changed humanity fundamentally, One of them being the Internet,
- 4:36one of them being Bitcoin, and one of them being AI.
- 4:39And I think that's what Peter Thiel was trying to say on the
- 4:43Joe Rogan experience, talking about talk about shifting the
- 4:47Overton window. Of course you have a
- 4:48presidential candidate talking about it as well.
- 4:51So absolutely huge, monumental. And guys, like if this is where
- 4:57we are, you know, 15 or so years into Bitcoins history, imagine
- 5:01where we're going to be, you know, 10-15 years from now.
- 5:04It's going to be absolutely bonkers.
- 5:06It's probably a good idea to get some just in case it catches on.
- 5:11In other news, the Democratic Party finally released their
- 5:16their policy, their platform. No mention of Bitcoin at all.
- 5:21Not surprising for anyone who's tuned into simply Bitcoin this
- 5:24last couple weeks, we've been covering this diligently, but at
- 5:28the in the other side of the aisle, right, The Republican
- 5:31Party has made it part of their official party platform to
- 5:34protect the right to self custody, to protect the right to
- 5:37mine. So as a single issue voter
- 5:39myself, what do you think I'm going to go with, right?
- 5:43It's either RFK, right, who doesn't really have a chance of
- 5:46winning right now according to the polls in the betting
- 5:48markets. Not perfect or the Democratic
- 5:52Party, which is kind of like, trust me, bro, even though we
- 5:56didn't put in our platform, even though we've been using all, you
- 6:00know, the, the judicial branch and the executive branch to go
- 6:03after the industry, we might change our mind.
- 6:06Like, I don't know. It's, it's, it's pretty simple
- 6:09from my perspective. Also, in other news as well,
- 6:13pretty pretty interesting. Coin Center wins right to sue
- 6:17U.S. Treasury, IRS again over
- 6:20controversial tax reporting. So I think this is incredibly
- 6:24important. As the separation of money and
- 6:27state accelerates, a lot of the old systems are going to clash
- 6:31with the new systems, right? We've lived in a society where
- 6:36if you hold considerable wealth, you're most likely holding it
- 6:39with a custodian. Now all of a sudden you have
- 6:43Bitcoin that gives you the tools and the power to take self
- 6:47custody of considerable amounts of wealth extremely easily so.
- 6:52And that of course is going to change, in my opinion, the
- 6:55dynamics of society to the core. Because look, all of a sudden
- 7:00you can cross a border and you can take all your wealth with
- 7:04you by writing down a 12 to 24 word seed phrase.
- 7:07You don't have to trust a third party with the power of self
- 7:10custody. You can send that money
- 7:12instantaneously anywhere over this overseas, you know, flick
- 7:16of a switch without having to ask anybody for permission.
- 7:19I think that's going to change Eddie.
- 7:20Anyways, I do want to bring up my legendary Co host.
- 7:23He's always optimistic. Opti how you doing on Monday
- 7:26bro? Well, you know, it's still a
- 7:28Monday for everyone, but I'm doing great.
- 7:30Life's wonderful. You know, Mondays are still
- 7:32Mondays as far as I can tell. I I still always have the Monday
- 7:36Blues and you know, I I just want to hang out all weekend.
- 7:38But hey, back to the grind. The show don't stop, but I do.
- 7:41I do want to kind of touch on that Peter Thiel clip in the
- 7:44beginning. I would also kind of argue with
- 7:47the meme that, you know, the only real point of the existence
- 7:51of the Internet was to facilitate Bitcoin.
- 7:53But he did have one point there where like Bitcoin is such a big
- 7:57idea that This is why you're seeing so many people have a
- 8:00hard time wrap their brains around what exactly Bitcoin is
- 8:03and, and basically why we're seeing so many people fight
- 8:05Bitcoin. But yeah, it's, it's great to
- 8:07see that these conversations are being had again on Joe Rogan's
- 8:11podcast. Hopefully more people are waking
- 8:13up to the fact that Bitcoin is probably a pretty big deal.
- 8:16And you might want to get some, you know, 'cause it is catching
- 8:19on. So love to see that the Bitcoin
- 8:22echo chambers are breaking and these conversations are getting
- 8:25thrusted into the mainstream. So, you know, babies steps
- 8:27towards the world fully adopting Bitcoin again, you know, it's
- 8:31been kind of a crab market for everyone here.
- 8:33So a lot of people tune out when the price goes sideways and
- 8:36down, but I think we're going to start to see that conversation
- 8:40pick up in the next couple of months or you know, round out
- 8:432024 with the with the very solid mind share for the the
- 8:49just the general population. I think Bitcoin is going to be a
- 8:53big deal or rather conversationally is going to be
- 8:55a big deal by the end of this year.
- 8:57So interesting times, man, interesting times.
- 9:00And also man, can we, can we all troll 58K gang today because
- 9:04like man, they're really, they're really suppressing the
- 9:06price on us and we're back at 58 K again.
- 9:09Like sheesh, man, it's been a, it's been a rough crab market
- 9:14for for all of us bitcoiners that are just, you know, caught
- 9:17up in the opium. But it's coming, guys, Trust the
- 9:20process. It's going to be a great end of
- 9:23the year in 2025. Should be a very, very great
- 9:26year in terms of Bitcoin price action.
- 9:28So yeah, man, life's great. Always great on the Bitcoin
- 9:30standard, Nico. 100% man, life is good when you're living on a
- 9:35deflationary mindset versus a inflationary mindset, which is
- 9:41what the most of the world is living on these days.
- 9:45That's a very kind of. It's a very.
- 9:48Such a radical thought. No, it's a very nihilistic
- 9:51existence, man, living on this inflationary mindset.
- 9:54We got to move the world to a more hopeful mindset.
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- 12:46Bitcoin price is 58,430 sats per dollar, 1711 block height
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- 13:03Total Lightning network capacity The 4849 BTC capacity value
- 13:09283,000,000 Realized monetary inflation 1.43% market
- 13:15capitalization 1.15 trillion Bitcoin versus gold market cap
- 13:206.68%. In the grand scheme of things,
- 13:25we're just getting started anyways.
- 13:27Dave Smith absolutely dropped fire bombs at the Bitcoin
- 13:33conference. We've been meaning to get to
- 13:35this clip. Haven't been able to finally
- 13:37have the chance. Here's our boy, the BTC
- 13:40therapist, great content creator on Twitter.
- 13:43Definitely give him a follow. The most important thing the
- 13:45world could do is separate money from state.
- 13:48Bitcoin fixes this. Here's Dave Smith.
- 13:50Here's it's It's about a two-minute clip.
- 13:52The more you learn about money and government control of money,
- 13:56you realize that that is the whole game.
- 13:59Everything else flows from that. Every evil thing that government
- 14:02does is only because they control the money supply.
- 14:05Like take an evil thing that government does and I'll explain
- 14:09how it's because they control the money supply.
- 14:10You know, like, I mean, just think about like, OK, we fought
- 14:14like a catastrophic 20 year war in Afghanistan that literally
- 14:19killed hundreds of thousands of people, cost trillions of
- 14:21dollars, and thousands of our bravest young boys died and then
- 14:2610s of thousands committed suicide in the wake of the war,
- 14:29right? Well, just like, imagine if they
- 14:31couldn't print the money for that war.
- 14:33Imagine if they had to tax the American people every month for
- 14:37the war in Afghanistan. You think that thing would have
- 14:39lasted 20 years? You've been lucky to get it
- 14:41through a year before the people would have demanded a result.
- 14:45Like what are you doing here? I mean, just imagine, imagine
- 14:49trying to do the lockdowns of 2020.
- 14:52If they couldn't just print trillions of dollars and pass
- 14:54them out, that people wouldn't have taken it.
- 14:56They would have been like, no, we're going back to work.
- 14:58We're not doing this. It's only because they control
- 15:02the money that they can get away with with tyranny.
- 15:05And listen, like personally, I like when I came, I came up as a
- 15:10child of the Ron Paul presidential campaigns, like
- 15:13that's how I got interested in in all of this stuff.
- 15:16And Ron Paul would always talk about the gold standard at the
- 15:19time. And don't get me wrong, I think
- 15:21a gold standard would be much, much better than what we have
- 15:24right now. The problem is that
- 15:26historically, what do nations do when they're on a gold standard
- 15:29and they need to fight a war? They go suspend the gold
- 15:31standard. You know, so the, the difference
- 15:34is that what Bitcoin brings is this decentralization where if
- 15:37you were truly on a Bitcoin standard, someone in Washington,
- 15:40DC couldn't just say we're going off the Bitcoin standard.
- 15:43Now that's the power that Bitcoin has that you can
- 15:46actually have a chance at separating money in the state.
- 15:49And that's that is the most important thing in the world to
- 15:53do. So I mean, dude, like spot on.
- 15:58This is what we've been saying for the longest time.
- 16:01No more endless wars. So OK, listen, listen, listen.
- 16:05If the warrant like we pulled out Afghanistan left $80 billion
- 16:10right of worth of equipment there, we pulled out.
- 16:13We literally within a couple of months we started funding
- 16:17another war and sent like 1/4 trillion dollars to fund the the
- 16:23war in in Ukraine. Why were they able to get away
- 16:26with this? They print the money.
- 16:28If you take away their ability to do that, you separate money
- 16:31from say. This is why we keep iterating on
- 16:33this guys. A lot of a lot of people tune
- 16:37into Bitcoin content and crypto content because they want to get
- 16:42rich. Fine, you come for the money,
- 16:44you stay for the revolution. This is not the channel for you
- 16:47if that's what that you're looking for.
- 16:48We don't draw charts, we don't give price predictions.
- 16:51We don't do any of that stuff. We'll be your guide through the
- 16:53separation of money and say This is why this type of stuff is so
- 16:57important. What type of future do you want
- 16:58your children to live in? Do you want your you want your
- 17:01children to live in a future of endless wars or do you want your
- 17:05children to live in a future of peace?
- 17:08OK, so now let's break it down. If they can't print them
- 17:13different, if they can't print money to fund the war, what is
- 17:16the other way to fund the war? Via direct taxation?
- 17:20I promise you even as much as we're tax right now, property
- 17:24tax, sales tax, income tax, right, taxes left and right, I
- 17:29promise you that if you raised taxes to pay for a war in
- 17:34Ukraine, there would literally be a revolt the next day.
- 17:38The reason that they're able to get away with it is via the
- 17:41hidden tax of inflation. And that is incredibly important
- 17:46to point out. And I think a lot of people,
- 17:48they're feeling the pain. They can't afford things.
- 17:51They can't afford housing. They don't have the opportunity
- 17:54that their parents once had. They don't quite understand that
- 17:58it's not because their favorite politician isn't the president.
- 18:03They don't, They don't understand that it's the money
- 18:05that's literally blatantly stealing from them, which is why
- 18:09we're huge advocates for and we're not going to stop.
- 18:12Frankly, this show won't stop. This message won't stop until
- 18:17the end of central banking, until the end of Fiat currency,
- 18:22until the until the separation of money and state.
- 18:25Because I it is the cause of so many of the world's problems.
- 18:29It is the broken money that is causing a lot of the global
- 18:34instability right now. A lot of the pain that people
- 18:37are feeling is literally caused by broken money, which is why
- 18:40Bitcoiners always say fix the money, fix the world anyways.
- 18:45This is why it's so important for figures like Peter Teal,
- 18:50people like Donald Trump, as much as people say he's
- 18:52divisive, Peter, like people like RFK Junior, people like
- 18:56Russell Brand that have followings that that they grew
- 19:00outside of the Bitcoin echo chamber to keep hammering that
- 19:04message home. Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin,
- 19:06Bitcoin, because that inevitably leads to a very important
- 19:10question, which is what is money?
- 19:12And that question inevitably leads to another very important
- 19:16question. What is government?
- 19:19And I think that that question is incredibly important.
- 19:23And again, I don't think they have real good justifications as
- 19:28to why money has to lose purchasing power in order to
- 19:32function. The world has been psyopped into
- 19:35thinking that. Do you know how crazy that is?
- 19:37Think about that for a second. Like your money that you work
- 19:41for. You bust your ass, you spend
- 19:43hours of your life fighting and grinding and bleeding in order
- 19:48to accumulate this money, and it loses purchasing power over
- 19:53time. That is absurd.
- 19:56And that's all we have to do as Bitcoiners is highlight that
- 19:58opti. Yeah, I mean 100%.
- 20:01I really love that clip and and this is what we try to get
- 20:03across on this show all the time.
- 20:05It's like there's a lot of. Complicated solutions to the
- 20:10problem, but the real problem starts with the money printer
- 20:12and this is you know you you could probably point at a
- 20:15million different reasons for why the world is you know on the
- 20:19decline right now but the main problem is is that they're
- 20:22printing obscenes amount of money and as we're seeing right
- 20:26now if for most average people like they're starting to feel
- 20:29the pain and and people are realizing like wait I can't keep
- 20:33up with inflation right now. What is the solution here?
- 20:36And we talk about it all the time.
- 20:37Most people will say or average people, not Bitcoiners will say
- 20:40like, oh, the solution is, you know, pick the right person and
- 20:43get them in power. And we're like, no, the real
- 20:45solution is to end the Fed and the central banks and not give
- 20:49them the opportunity to print more money.
- 20:50And so absolutely love how simple Dave Smith is able to
- 20:54make this where it's literally like, just take the power of the
- 20:57money printer out of their hands and the most of the other
- 21:00problems will finally fix themselves down the line.
- 21:03Like This is why Bitcoiners always say, fix the money, fix
- 21:06the world because they're printing obscene amount of
- 21:08money. They're making everyone poorer.
- 21:10And if you are not blessed enough to have a bunch of money
- 21:14to buy hard assets, then there's no way you are ever, ever going
- 21:18to make it out of the rat race. And so This is why we constantly
- 21:21tell people, you need to protect yourself.
- 21:23You need to save in Bitcoin because they cannot debase you,
- 21:26you they cannot steal your Bitcoin from you silently
- 21:29through inflation. And this is the solution to most
- 21:32of the problem is you as the individual out there retaining
- 21:36as much of the value that you create personally so that you
- 21:40can choose what you want to use your money on versus, you know,
- 21:44outsourcing that to at Washington, DC and, and having
- 21:48them do what all this crazy stuff we're seeing right now.
- 21:51It's all starting from the fact that they have the power to
- 21:55print more money. And This is why we're in a
- 21:56position that we are right now is, is the people in power have
- 22:00gotten drunkenly crazy off that power of printing more money and
- 22:05they're going to continue to print more money because that
- 22:07there's no other solution here but to print more money.
- 22:11And Bitcoin fixes this. This is what we constantly say.
- 22:13I'm glad that we always reiterate on this point because
- 22:16it all boils down to the money printer and the fact that why
- 22:20does a small cabal of people have the power over the money
- 22:23printer and we're all just forced to use that money?
- 22:26Like why should a bureaucratically have the
- 22:29ability to create money for free that the rest of us have to work
- 22:33for? No one deserves that God like
- 22:35power. Bitcoin levels the the the
- 22:40playing field and and it's very simple.
- 22:44How does it level the playing field?
- 22:45Well if you want to make more Bitcoin you have to mine it like
- 22:48everyone else and no one has special privileges.
- 22:52Michael Saylor had to buy Bitcoin and get a line just like
- 22:56everybody else did. Anyways, just read the comment.
- 22:58Hatless Opti is like when Samsung got his locks cut,
- 23:02strength gone. OK, I'll wear a hat.
- 23:05Jeez, Rustin too. Anyways, everybody still lots of
- 23:11content to get to. Let's get to the news.
- 23:13And then during the culture we're gonna talk about, we're
- 23:17gonna talk about it's this is Opti.
- 23:19Can we say we called it bro? Let's just let's just be real D.
- 23:22Wait, what's that? What's our new tagline?
- 23:24Let's just. So tomorrow's Bitcoin news
- 23:26today. Let's just take the gloves off.
- 23:28We called it. We said that this was gonna
- 23:30happen. So during the culture, we're
- 23:31gonna talk about the Republican Party platform, how they are
- 23:35officially made. They've officially came out,
- 23:37protected the right to self custody, protect the right to
- 23:40mind the Democratic platform came out.
- 23:42What we've been seeing over the last couple of weeks, like the
- 23:45whole crypto for Harris and all that stuff.
- 23:47And guys, I just want to emphasize this.
- 23:49If Kamala Harris came out tomorrow and was like, I'll
- 23:53protect self custody and she freed Ross.
- 23:57I, I, I would wear Kamala shirt. I, I would be like, let's effing
- 24:01go. I don't care about any of the
- 24:03other political garbage. It is not interesting to me.
- 24:08I am a single issue voter. What matters to me is the
- 24:11separation of money and state. And if there's a politician
- 24:14that's accelerating that process, I'm all for it.
- 24:17Right. So I just want to emphasize that
- 24:19because I see a lot of people, they get a little bit
- 24:21uncomfortable. They they get look, I said this
- 24:24last week, Bitcoin over party, not party over Bitcoin.
- 24:29That is the most Fiat thing I've ever seen in the world where
- 24:33you're like, look, I'm going to vote for these people if they
- 24:36promise me that they're going to change to no, no, no, no, no.
- 24:39Put up or shut up action Speech is cheap anyways, everybody or
- 24:44talk is cheap. All right, everybody, let's get
- 24:47to the news Lots to talk about. Let's check it out.
- 24:48Here we go, the Daily News. I want to give a shout out to
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- 25:52understand everyone you know, and it's a it's a it's a crabby
- 25:55market. It's a crabby market and you
- 25:57know, people don't feel about crabby markets.
- 26:00So I got something for you guys. And what I have for you guys is
- 26:04our boy American huddle. And I told you guys in the
- 26:08beginning, like you tuned into the wrong show because we don't
- 26:11give TA and we don't draw lines, but we will play you a video of
- 26:15our boy huddle doing the best TA in the world.
- 26:19Check it out. So as you can see here on the
- 26:22chart, for like 4 years, Bitcoin was in like the hundreds of
- 26:25dollar range and it just kind of hung out there.
- 26:27Yeah, like maybe it bounced down, maybe it bounced up, but
- 26:31it was basically in the hundreds of dollar range for like 4
- 26:34fucking years. Then it went to the thousands of
- 26:35dollar range and it just stayed there.
- 26:37Yeah, it bounced above 10 briefly, but it went in the
- 26:40thousands of dollars range. Then it went to the 10s of
- 26:42thousands of dollars range and it stayed there for three
- 26:46fucking years and now we're coming to the end of it.
- 26:48What the fuck do you think is going to happen next?
- 26:50You think it's going to go to the $0.00 range?
- 26:52Now it's going to 100,000 fucking dollars a fucking God. 6
- 26:55figure range. Bitch, go to six figures.
- 26:58So OK, ladies and gentlemen, that is the TA that we offer TA
- 27:01for the day at Simply Very great TA, very proper from our boy
- 27:07Hoddle, and I think he's on point there anyways, kind of
- 27:11changing the changing the tune a little bit.
- 27:14So something that we covered, we've been covering frankly over
- 27:18the last couple of months, if not years is the not only the
- 27:24the regulatory onslaught, the attacks, right?
- 27:28What were they? So the proposed 30% Bitcoin
- 27:31mining bank, the setting of precedence against open source
- 27:35software in the Tornado Cash case and the Samurai wallet
- 27:38case, but also the kind of travel rule this like creeping,
- 27:44like these creeping regulations that they're putting on top of
- 27:48the Bitcoin industry. So what does that mean?
- 27:51So in certain countries, if you withdraw from exchanges, you'll
- 27:55start to notice that they'll start to ask you questions where
- 27:58you withdrawing that Bitcoin to? They'll say, hey, are you
- 28:01withdrawing this to another Bitcoin, another exchange?
- 28:05Are you sending this to yourself?
- 28:07Are you sending this to somebody else?
- 28:10And one of the rules that they passed is if you send more than
- 28:14$10,000 worth of Bitcoin or crypto to someone else, you have
- 28:20to report that to the IRS. Now, here's the thing.
- 28:24What they're trying to do is that they're trying to impose
- 28:28the existing system on top of a new system.
- 28:32The issue and the problem that they have is that the the
- 28:35previous, the previous system relied on middle men for
- 28:40enforcement. When you have individuals
- 28:43transacting peer-to-peer, what incentive do they really have?
- 28:50What incentive do they really have to play cop for the
- 28:53government, which is essentially the setup that the government
- 28:57currently has with banks, right? There's like, you know, a dozen
- 29:01or so banks and guess what those banks are used to?
- 29:07Those banks are used in, in a way to like kind of in like,
- 29:12like in a, like an enforcing function, like they're deputized
- 29:15in a way, right. So anyways, here's the coin desk
- 29:18article. It says Coin Center wins right
- 29:20to sue U.S. Treasury, IRS again over
- 29:24controversial tax reporting rule Crypto think tank Coin Center
- 29:28got the go ahead from the from AUS Court of Appeals to retry
- 29:32its lawsuit against the Treasury Department and the IRS.
- 29:35Coin Center sued them in 2022 / a controversial amendment to the
- 29:40US tax code that would require people to disclose certain
- 29:43crypto transactions and personal details of the participants in
- 29:47those transactions. The think tank has argued that
- 29:50the amendment is unconstitutional and is evidence
- 29:53of overbearing surveillance of crypto users.
- 29:56OK so think about this for a second, right?
- 29:59There's the I think it's believe the 4th amendment.
- 30:01No unreasonable searches and seizures.
- 30:04The way that they're setting it up is essentially, and this all,
- 30:08by the way, started with the Bank Secrecy Act.
- 30:10When they pass the Bank Secrecy Act, it was like in 1970, I
- 30:13believe, it essentially put it into law that every transaction
- 30:18over $10,000 needed to be reported.
- 30:22The problem is that when they pass that law, if you adjust for
- 30:28inflation, $10,000 back in the 1970s is the equivalent of
- 30:33$80,000 today. So what did they do with the
- 30:36government? Always does.
- 30:38They kept the number in place, right?
- 30:41So it kept going down from 80,000 to 70,000.
- 30:44And could you imagine that number five years from now or 10
- 30:47years from now or 20 years from now?
- 30:49That's going to be the equivalent of $2500 of
- 30:51purchasing power. In fact, they tried to pass this
- 30:55in a recent law. I believe that they were able to
- 30:58to take it out of the law at last second, but they wanted
- 31:01every $600.00 transaction reported to the government.
- 31:04Mind you, this is a government that continues to spend more and
- 31:09more money than it collects in tax revenue, which means they
- 31:12have to print the difference, which means they have to debase
- 31:16the currency, which means anyone who's earning and saving in that
- 31:20said currency essentially gets stolen from.
- 31:23This is the same government that they can't even control their
- 31:28own expenses, but they expect you to essentially report every
- 31:33single little thing that you do. And that's not right.
- 31:37That's not correct. It's rules for the, but not for
- 31:41me. The government doesn't have a
- 31:43tax collection problem. The government has a spending
- 31:48problem. And what Trump and Elon were
- 31:51saying the other day, what Elon was like, look, we need a
- 31:53government efficiency committee. And you know, inflation is
- 31:57caused by the government debasing the currency.
- 32:00No, no, no, listen. Yes, obviously everyone knows
- 32:04that, but that's not the solution.
- 32:09Clearly, the government is going to continue to abuse that
- 32:13privilege. Let's say Trump wins and let's
- 32:16say Elon gets his a government efficiency committee and he does
- 32:20the same thing that he did to Twitter, where he literally
- 32:23fired 80% of the staff. And Twitter's better today than
- 32:27it was before, right? Let's say he does that the same
- 32:29thing to the federal government. Let's say federal government
- 32:32gets cut by like 50, sixty, 70%. What Javier Malay did, you know,
- 32:36he did that famous video of fuerda, fuerda fuerda.
- 32:39And he just like was shutting down all like the different
- 32:42government, like agencies and stuff.
- 32:45Let's say they do that and they bring inflation under control.
- 32:51What happens in four years when there's another election and
- 32:55let's say that the person that gets elected into office isn't
- 32:59as disciplined fiscally? We are back at stage one.
- 33:04We're back at step one. The issue here is trusting the
- 33:08government and the central bank not to debase the currency.
- 33:12This is what Bitcoin fundamentally fixes because
- 33:16there is no trust. You don't have to trust someone
- 33:19else. The, the, the trust is removed,
- 33:24right? So anyways, gone on a little bit
- 33:26of a tangent here, but yeah, this is pretty good.
- 33:30This is awesome. But this is also kind of insane.
- 33:33And but it also should not surprise you whatsoever.
- 33:36And before I get to, of course, you guys know the deal.
- 33:39I love reading quotes from the sovereign individual because I
- 33:41think it's super applicable these days and explains why all
- 33:45of this is happening. It's important to have a bird's
- 33:47eye view so that you can arm yourself with the facts and the
- 33:51truth to understand and look at the landscape and start to see
- 33:58it from that lens because it will explain a lot of the things
- 34:02that are that are happening. Remember, they're hiding behind
- 34:05the legitimacy, the coattails of the US government.
- 34:10But at the end of the day, it's just a guy in a suit behind a
- 34:15podium with a nice looking emblem.
- 34:18But what they're really doing is that they're debasing the
- 34:20current. They're just printing money.
- 34:22That's all they're doing. It's a LARP.
- 34:24It's not real. It's a fugazi.
- 34:26Bitcoin is real, which is why they don't like it.
- 34:30This is why certain elements of the government are so against
- 34:34Bitcoin. They can't vocally come out and
- 34:36say it. They hide behind terrorism,
- 34:39money laundering, you know, shadowy supercoders.
- 34:43It uses too much energy. But the, the, the reality is
- 34:48that Bitcoin is a threat to their monopoly on money.
- 34:52That's what it is all about. That's what it has always been
- 34:56about anyways. So moving on to this no shout
- 34:59out to no BS Bitcoin. What's happening?
- 35:01U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve
- 35:03plan to redefine money. U.S.
- 35:06Federal agencies plan to redefine money as used in the
- 35:09rules of the Bank Secrecy Act Remember I just told you guys
- 35:12about that to tighten reporting requirements for financial
- 35:15institutions regarding domestic and cross-border cryptocurrency
- 35:19transactions. The proposed rulemaking is
- 35:21expected by September 2025. It goes on to say clarification
- 35:28of the requirement to collect, retain and transmit information
- 35:31of transactions involving convertible virtual currencies
- 35:34and digital assets with legal tender status.
- 35:37The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve and FinCEN
- 35:40intend to issue a revised proposal to clarify the meaning
- 35:43of money as used in the rules of implementing the Bank Secrecy
- 35:47Act, requiring financial institutions to collect, retain,
- 35:50transmit information on certain fund transfers and transmittal
- 35:54of funds. The agencies intend that the
- 35:57revised proposal will ensure that the rules apply to domestic
- 36:00and cross-border transactions involving convertible virtual
- 36:03currency, which is a medium of exchange that either has an
- 36:06equivalent value as currency or acts as a substitute for
- 36:10currency but lacks legal tender status.
- 36:12Did you hear that? It's so effing funny, dude.
- 36:16It's hilarious. It's like, look, it's not legal
- 36:18tender, it's not money, but we're still going to apply rules
- 36:23that apply to money because like it's a fake money, it's being
- 36:28used as money, but it doesn't have legal tender status money.
- 36:32So it's definitely not money. It can't be money.
- 36:35We the government get to are the only ones that decide what is
- 36:38money, but we're still going to apply all the rules that are
- 36:41applied to money on top of the stuff that is not money.
- 36:45Like what total fucking clown world is that?
- 36:48And OK now why is this happening?
- 36:50It's very important to explain why all of this is happening.
- 36:53And again, I haven't read this in a long time so I don't feel
- 36:56guilty about it. This is why all of this is
- 36:59happening. In the new Millennium, cyber
- 37:01money controlled by private markets will supersede Fiat
- 37:05money issued by governments. The authors have also predicted
- 37:08that with the rise of this new cyberspace, consequently cyber
- 37:12money, it will become harder for a nation state to collect taxes
- 37:15from its citizens. By the way, when they say taxes,
- 37:19it's not just income tax, it's also the tax of inflation.
- 37:24They compare the state to a farmer keeping cows in a field
- 37:27to be milked. But that quote, soon the cows
- 37:30will have wings. They predict that the government
- 37:33to collect taxes from its citizens.
- 37:35In this type of society, it would have to violate human
- 37:38rights. Even traditionally civil
- 37:40countries would have to resort and turn nasty.
- 37:43Lacking their accustomed scope to tax and inflate, governments
- 37:47even in traditionally civil countries will turn nasty.
- 37:50Businesses that officer offer services that facilitate the
- 37:54realization of autonomy by individuals will be subject to
- 37:58infiltration, sabotage and disruption.
- 38:01What does that sound like? What Operation Choke .2 point O?
- 38:05What does that sound like to you?
- 38:07The all the Lightning wallet companies leaving the United
- 38:11States? The proposed 30% Bitcoin tax on
- 38:15the Bitcoin miners. What does that sound like to
- 38:17you? Arbitrary forfeiture of
- 38:19property, already commonplace in the United States where it
- 38:22occurs 5000 times a week, will become even more pervasive.
- 38:26Governments will violate human rights, censor the free flow of
- 38:29information, sabotage useful technologies, and worse.
- 38:34Now connect this with the video from Dave Smith.
- 38:39This is a separation of money and state.
- 38:41Yes, you come here, you want to get wealthy from Bitcoin.
- 38:44That is a secondary effect of you holding sound money.
- 38:48That's all it is. But you have to pay attention to
- 38:52the battle at hand. And the battle at hand is what
- 38:55world do you want your children to live in?
- 38:59Because there's two options right now on the table.
- 39:03There's the CCP model, there's the China model of the central
- 39:07bank digital currencies, which is what they want here, by the
- 39:10way. Elizabeth Warren, she wants it.
- 39:12You want to know why they're attacking Bitcoin?
- 39:16It's because they want to create a monopoly so that they can roll
- 39:20out their central bank digital currencies.
- 39:22Bitcoin and CBDC's cannot and will never coexist.
- 39:27They they go against each other. One is freedom when it's total
- 39:31control, centralization and slavery.
- 39:34That's what it, that's what it's all about.
- 39:36So when you're reading all of this stuff, these legal, the
- 39:40legalese, and it's like, oh, the department of blah, blah, blah,
- 39:42blah, blah, blah. Just realize, look at it from a
- 39:45very simplistic lens that there are elements in the government
- 39:51that want to retain the power and the privilege of being able
- 39:55to create money for free that the rest of us have to work for.
- 40:00And they're willing to hide behind the guise of money
- 40:03laundering terrorism, AM LKYC crime where the vast majority of
- 40:11people in the Tornado Cash case and in the Samurai case, the
- 40:16vast majority of people were using those services for
- 40:20privacy. Only a small percentage of
- 40:22people were committing crimes with it.
- 40:25Now compare and contrast that with how many people are using
- 40:29the traditional financial system to commit crime and how many
- 40:32people are using cash to commit crime.
- 40:36It has nothing to do with those things.
- 40:39It has to do with the fact that the government wants to retain
- 40:43the monopoly on money. That's all it has to do about.
- 40:46And over time, Bitcoin will continue to expose them because
- 40:52eventually they're going to have to ask a very important
- 40:55question, which is why I focus on Dave Smith, I focus on
- 40:58Russell Brand, I focus on Trump, and I focus on these people that
- 41:02are popular outside of the Bitcoin echo chamber.
- 41:05All we have to do, our goal is to get the majority of people
- 41:10asking what is money? And why should money have to
- 41:15lose purchasing power in order to function?
- 41:19The world has been psyopped, psyopped into thinking that
- 41:24inflation is part of Mother Nature.
- 41:26Think about it. Think about how politics.
- 41:29I saw like, like a speech of Kamala talking about how she's
- 41:35going to bring down inflation. Even Trump, I saw Trump talking
- 41:39about this. OK, They passed the law called
- 41:45the Inflation Reduction Act. You know what they did?
- 41:50They spent a fuck ton of money. How is spending money that we
- 41:54don't have going to reduce inflation?
- 41:58The only thing that is going to reduce inflation is cutting
- 42:01costs. The problem is that you have to
- 42:04trust in the discipline of these federal bureaucrats not to spend
- 42:09money, and they have no accountability.
- 42:13This is what when people talk about the deep state, it's not
- 42:16really a deep state. It's not like this grand
- 42:18conspiracy. It's very simple.
- 42:20There's a Bureau, there's a bureaucracy that regardless of
- 42:25who gets elected into office, remains in power, which means
- 42:30that there's no accountability. And that bureaucracy is fed by
- 42:34the money printer, and the money printer is fed by the work and
- 42:38energy and time of not only the American people, because the US
- 42:44is the world reserve currency of any war, any, any person around
- 42:49the world that is holding dollars.
- 42:51This includes central banks and individuals in countries where
- 42:54they have a failed Fiat currency.
- 42:56They are literally footing the bill for the expenses of the US
- 43:01government, full stop. That's what it's about.
- 43:05So, yeah, this is a revolution. This is this is a change up.
- 43:10This is about saying enough is enough.
- 43:12The reason you can't afford housing, the reason you can't
- 43:15afford food is because the people in DC can't help but to
- 43:21print money. And this is what the separation
- 43:23of money and state is all about. And don't get distracted with
- 43:27the like all of that. It's like hidden behind legalese
- 43:33and emblems and all these things to make it look official.
- 43:37All they're saying is like, look, we don't like this thing.
- 43:40This this shit sucks. And we're just going to like,
- 43:45it's money laundering, It's terrorism.
- 43:48I'm going to say something crazy, OK?
- 43:50I don't think terrorism would be a thing if everyone was on a
- 43:56Bitcoin standard. I don't think it would be a
- 43:58thing. I think if most people are very
- 44:01simple minded people, OK, including myself.
- 44:03We're very, very simple. You want to have a family, You
- 44:06want to provide for your family, You want housing.
- 44:09That's it. That's 99% of people on planet
- 44:12Earth, OK? Bitcoin enables that.
- 44:16It allows everyone to live the American dream no matter where
- 44:20you are on planet Earth, because life gets progressively cheaper,
- 44:24as it should be. This is the case that Jeff Booth
- 44:26is making. As technology like improves and
- 44:31productivity improves, the prices of things should go down.
- 44:35But they're not going down because governments are
- 44:38artificially making the prices of things continue to go up
- 44:43forever because they're printing money and they have to coerce
- 44:47you into that system. That system requires censorship.
- 44:50That system requires wars in order to continue to function in
- 44:55order for it to be deemed legitimate.
- 44:58You want to know why they're freaking the F out with Elon and
- 45:01X and Noster? It's because they can no longer
- 45:05control the narrative. Remember Naeem Bouquet's piece?
- 45:08Their most important weapon is their control on the truth and
- 45:13they're willing to lie, smear, confiscate, print in order to
- 45:17can keep their control on the truth.
- 45:19Imagine if that cat gets out of the bag and your aunt that comes
- 45:25to Thanksgiving dinner is like, wait a second, like inflation
- 45:29isn't necessary. And you're looking at her and
- 45:31you're like, Yep. What do you think she's going to
- 45:34say? All of a sudden, those political
- 45:37speeches and all that rhetoric coming up from politicians, It's
- 45:40she's going to be immune to it. And then all of a sudden the
- 45:43racket, the party that's happening in Washington, DC,
- 45:47it's over. It's game, set and match.
- 45:50That's what we're fighting for. It's a peaceful revolution.
- 45:53It's an information warfare. And yeah, we just have to get
- 45:57the message out there. But dude, Opti, how fucking
- 46:00funny are those papers, bro? It's like digital currencies
- 46:06aren't money, but because they don't have legal tender status,
- 46:10we at the government haven't deemed them as money, but we're
- 46:14still going to apply the same rules that apply to regular
- 46:18money on top of virtual assets. I don't know why, right?
- 46:22It's it's just hysterical man at this point.
- 46:25Yeah. And it really reminds me of a
- 46:27tweet you put out this weekend that was really good.
- 46:29So I'm reading you said governments still think they can
- 46:31regulate Bitcoin. They will learn that Bitcoin
- 46:33will regulate governments. And I think this is what's going
- 46:36on. And of course, as a new
- 46:38technology gets adopted, they try to, you know, put a, a
- 46:42square peg into a, a circle hole.
- 46:44And, and this is what we're seeing.
- 46:45And This is why you see so many politicians out there try to use
- 46:49the same old rhetoric to explain or rather like hamper Bitcoin.
- 46:54But as we constantly see, like Bitcoin will fundamentally
- 46:58change how our laws are written and how we interact with those
- 47:01laws. And this is what we're going to
- 47:03be experiencing for probably the next decade or two.
- 47:06And this is where we are right now.
- 47:08Like people have to update their software right now because we
- 47:11have new, better money technology and it doesn't fit
- 47:14into the old world that we are so used to.
- 47:16And This is why you're seeing so much commotion and so much, I
- 47:19don't know, vitro hate towards Bitcoin is because it
- 47:23fundamentally up and everything. It kind of reminds me of, you
- 47:27know, the the meme, like if you're fed up with the game,
- 47:29then you then turn over the table.
- 47:30Well, like that's what Bitcoin has facilitated.
- 47:33And going back to that like coin Center story in the beginning,
- 47:36you just love to see it because we, we constantly talk about
- 47:39this in, in regards to just the very simple meme of like, like,
- 47:43if us individuals treated our balance sheet like the
- 47:47government treats their balance sheet like we would all be
- 47:49bankrupt and poor. And yet for some reason people
- 47:52still think that, oh, just because the government does it
- 47:54like it's OK. And you know what's the debt is
- 47:57money we owe ourselves and all the different memes that they
- 48:00use to. To.
- 48:01Try to explain this, all the mental gymnastics that they
- 48:04tried to unleash and gaslight on the population to continue to
- 48:09print more money. It just, it's just very obvious.
- 48:12It goes back to what we say all the time of Bitcoin.
- 48:14Bitcoin has a way of exposing people's incentives and it will
- 48:18continue to do that. And until the laws at least
- 48:23reflect reality or the real nature of what Bitcoin is like,
- 48:27we have a lot of work and it's it's going to be an uphill
- 48:29battle. So yeah, man, a lot, a lot to be
- 48:31done on the ground. 100 percent, 100%, we got to keep iterating
- 48:36that that message home every single day until everyone
- 48:40understands that money doesn't have to lose purchasing power in
- 48:43order to function. All right, guys, we still got a
- 48:46hell of a show lined up for you guys.
- 48:48Let's get to the culture. Let's check the daily culture.
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- 50:00I'm excited to talk about this man cuz opti.
- 50:03Whoa, what just happened there? There we go.
- 50:05I messed up. That was me.
- 50:08So, I mean, can we say, I mean, can we say we told you so?
- 50:12I, I, I think, I think we could say that, right?
- 50:15Wait, actually, Nico, let's let's do some context here
- 50:18because you were in a space over the weekend and you laid out
- 50:23these very concerns. And the response that I heard
- 50:26was just like, trust me bro, things are working on the back
- 50:29end that you'll see very soon. And then we got this news.
- 50:32So you want to lay that context out a little bit?
- 50:35OK, OK. OK.
- 50:36So so we've been covering this over the last couple.
- 50:40First of all, I just want to disclaim this guys like I can
- 50:43care less about all the other political issues because I, I
- 50:48believe that the other political issues stem from broken money.
- 50:52You fix the money, you fix the world.
- 50:54That being said, that's where I'm coming from.
- 50:56So whether it's Team Kamala or Team Trump that are like, oh,
- 51:01pro Bitcoin, I'm going to stand behind the party and the people
- 51:05that are pro Bitcoin. That's it.
- 51:07Because they're furthering my cause and my cause is the
- 51:10separation of money and state. Fix the money, fix the world.
- 51:13I think we've, we've made, we've laid out the case this entire
- 51:16episode as to why that's important.
- 51:19That being said, over the last couple of weeks with Trump
- 51:23speaking at the Bitcoin conference, with RFK speaking at
- 51:26the Bitcoin conference and it being an election year, a major
- 51:30part of the Democratic Party's constituents are Bitcoin
- 51:35holders. It doesn't look good that the
- 51:38Democratic Party is taking an anti Bitcoin stance.
- 51:43Their actions continue to show that.
- 51:46But their rhetoric, they're walking it back a little bit.
- 51:49That's why you're seeing stuff like crypto for Harris and you
- 51:54know, the Democratic town hall, the crypto Democratic town hall
- 51:58hosted by Mark Cuban and Anthony Scaramucci.
- 52:02And you know, they there, there's people from the White
- 52:04House that appear that appear at the town hall.
- 52:06And then they ask everybody, do you feel like Bitcoin and crypto
- 52:09has been targeted? Everyone raises their hands, but
- 52:12like nothing gets done, right? It's all like a horse and pony
- 52:15show. It's all talk the way that I've
- 52:17been seeing it. So but I do, I do.
- 52:20And I want to clarify this for anyone watching, I I appreciate
- 52:23the efforts and shout out to our our friends over at the
- 52:27Progressive Bitcoiner. Shout out to Dennis Porner,
- 52:30Dennis Porter and shout out to, I think the Crasenstein tween,
- 52:34the Crasenstein twins were the ones that hosted this space, but
- 52:39they hosted a space called Democrats for Bitcoin.
- 52:42And I joined the space and a lot of the talk that I was hearing
- 52:46was essentially like, we've made progress with the Democratic
- 52:50Party. You know, this is a party of
- 52:52intellectuals and it takes time for them to kind of process on
- 52:56ideas and process policy. And when I went in there and I
- 53:00said, listen, like, I empathize with you guys.
- 53:03I understand that. And I I I I do I I I I do like I
- 53:08I, I understand where you guys are coming from, but let me lay
- 53:13out the facts. Operation Choke .2 point O the
- 53:16denial of Caitlin Long's federal banking charter, the attack on
- 53:20Bitcoin self custody, the arrest of the samurai wallet
- 53:24developers, the arrest of Rodger Burr, the arrest of the tornado
- 53:28cash developers, the proposed 30% Bitcoin mining tax.
- 53:32Like like you, you might be hosting this town hall, but the
- 53:41same day that you hosted a town hall, the Federal Reserve and
- 53:45the FDIC sued customers bank customers bank is like literally
- 53:51one of the last remaining pro Bitcoin and crypto banks in the
- 53:55US. So just because you're hosting a
- 53:58town hall and at the end, like it's like you're, you're having
- 54:02a conversation with me and at the on my back, you're just
- 54:05slapping me in the back like that's essentially what's
- 54:07happening. And I brought up all these
- 54:09points and I like it. And to give them credit, they're
- 54:14like, yeah, it's time for action, right?
- 54:16It's time for, you're right, Nico, it's time for action to
- 54:19give them credit. And that's what I'm waiting for
- 54:23as a single issue voter, not trying to bash the Democratic
- 54:26Party. Like, I appreciate the efforts
- 54:30and the talking, but I don't see any action.
- 54:35And now from the other perspective, because a lot of it
- 54:37was like attacking Trump that Trump wasn't going to keep his
- 54:40promises and whatever, OK, fine, you could be right and Trump
- 54:44could be a sleazy guy because that was one of the arguments
- 54:46that was being talked about. But but I know that now Trump,
- 54:53part of Trump's donor base are bitcoiners #1 number thing.
- 54:59I know. The second thing I know it is
- 55:02officially part of the Republican Party platform to
- 55:06protect the right to self custody and to protect the right
- 55:10to mine. So again, from the other side,
- 55:17and this is what they kept trying to tell me in that space,
- 55:19they were like, trust me bro, we're making progress.
- 55:23And my response is like, don't trust verify.
- 55:27One side is officially made it part of their policy in their
- 55:32documents. The guy said it in a speech.
- 55:36And then the other side, I haven't heard Kamala say
- 55:39anything about crypto or Bitcoin once and her actions are showing
- 55:45that she's hostile towards it officially.
- 55:48Today the Democratic Party came out with their official platform
- 55:54and there is absolutely no mention of Bitcoin or crypto.
- 55:59So I mean, like, I got, I got to, I got to say guys like,
- 56:05like, you know, say what you want, but like, at this point,
- 56:12I'm just looking at like, you can say that Trump's a liar, but
- 56:17at least Trump's saying that he's going to protect it.
- 56:21The other side is saying nothing.
- 56:22If anything, they're attacking it, right?
- 56:26Not to mention the fact that we know that Elizabeth Warren has
- 56:31lied in the past using legacy media outlets like I believe
- 56:36this one was the Wall Street Journal to convince the American
- 56:41public that Hamas. This happened during the, the,
- 56:46the, the whole thing in Palestine and Israel.
- 56:49Hamas was using Bitcoin in order to launder money.
- 56:53It came out after the fact that the vast majority of money, and
- 56:58this was confirmed by the way, by the head of FinCEN, the vast
- 57:02majority of money being laundered toward terrorist
- 57:04organizations is done, done through the traditional
- 57:08financial system. We also have videos of Elizabeth
- 57:13Warren on record talking about how she wants a central bank
- 57:18digital currency. So like, I'm sorry, like, OK.
- 57:24And last thing that I'll say, Kamala is part of the executive
- 57:32branch today. She can free Ross today, like
- 57:37right now. So like, at what point does it
- 57:41get to where you're just like, like, look, guys, like I
- 57:47appreciate the efforts. I get that you might think
- 57:51orange man is bad and orange man is divisive.
- 57:54And and I understand that. And there's a lot of things
- 57:56about Trump that are not perfect, but at least he's
- 57:59saying, like, we're all going to get rich and have fun with your
- 58:03little bitcoins. Like, you know, at least he's
- 58:06like, I'm going to fire Gary Gensler.
- 58:08Like, at least he's saying all the right things.
- 58:11At least they're making it part of the party platform.
- 58:14At least I know that our industry are major donors
- 58:18towards the Trump campaign and the Republican Party.
- 58:21Like the best argument that you have is we're making progress.
- 58:27Trust me, bro, that that's the argument that that you're, that
- 58:30that's the argument you're making.
- 58:32And I think that's a nonsensical argument.
- 58:34I think that's a bad argument. Until you show me something
- 58:38where Kamala comes out with an official statement that says we
- 58:43are changing our stance on our current Bitcoin regulatory
- 58:47policy. I just don't believe you.
- 58:50Why should I? Why should I believe you?
- 58:53Why? Why should I vote for a party
- 58:57that for the last couple of years has been extremely hostile
- 59:00towards the industry? And why should I not vote for a
- 59:04party that's literally saying I will protect your industry?
- 59:07I'll make sure Bitcoin goes to the moon.
- 59:09And then if you despise Trump, you have the other option, which
- 59:14is RFK. Like, at what point are you just
- 59:17like, no, I, I, I don't believe you anymore.
- 59:20Like, when does it get to that point?
- 59:22Because this is insane to be honest.
- 59:26I mean make making a few points. So like I think we could we both
- 59:29agreed and we said this on the show before people just like
- 59:32call us whatever, you know, like MAGA boys or whatever, you know,
- 59:35like we're such we're looking at this from a very simple
- 59:38perspective. It's like pro Bitcoin, anti
- 59:41Bitcoin, and as much as we would agree with like a lot of people
- 59:45in that space that are saying like, that's not what all
- 59:48Democrats believe. You know, we've said it on this
- 59:50show that from our view, it looks like the you know, quote
- 59:54UN quote Democrat elites for the people ruling the party are not
- 59:57following what their constituents think because
- 59:59Bitcoin is a bipartisan issue. It's for anyone out there.
- 1:00:03But from what we're seeing this trust me, bro, thinking of like,
- 1:00:06oh, they're going to change their their their view on this,
- 1:00:09bro, like, trust me, you know, Vote Blue no matter what type
- 1:00:11thinking it it really it really kind of goes to that meme that
- 1:00:15you said earlier. It's like this isn't about.
- 1:00:16Voting via party lines here, this is about their views on
- 1:00:20Bitcoin because Bitcoin does allow for the most prosperity
- 1:00:23for individuals and that's what we really love the most.
- 1:00:26And that's the big issue here going on where people are
- 1:00:29getting lost in party lines here and we're like, one is seemingly
- 1:00:34pro Bitcoin and the other is actively fighting it.
- 1:00:37And they're like, oh, you know, you can't blame Kamala for, you
- 1:00:40know what Biden administration did.
- 1:00:41And it's like she's in power right now.
- 1:00:43And just going further. Let's read, you know, the 2024
- 1:00:46GOP platform official policy here.
- 1:00:49And it is champion innovation. Republicans will pave the way
- 1:00:53for future economic greatness by leading the world in emerging
- 1:00:56industries, specifically citing crypto.
- 1:00:58Republicans will end Democrats unlawful and UN American crypto
- 1:01:01crackdown and oppose the creation of a CBDC.
- 1:01:04We will defend the right to mine Bitcoin and ensure every
- 1:01:07American has the right to self custody of their digital assets
- 1:01:10and transact freely from government surveillance and
- 1:01:13control. As a bitcoiner, that sounds like
- 1:01:16what sounds like what we say every single day.
- 1:01:19Like full. Stop be like like come on now
- 1:01:21guys, like come on. We have tried so hard.
- 1:01:25I got I got upset with Opti at one point, OK, Like we have
- 1:01:29tried so hard because Opti was like Trump derangement Syndrome
- 1:01:33and I got so upset with Opti. I'm like Opti like be inclusive,
- 1:01:35bro, what are you doing? We have slow walk this for
- 1:01:40months and I think I broke the moment that they put the samurai
- 1:01:45wallet guys in jail. I snapped.
- 1:01:48I'm like, no, this has to be said.
- 1:01:50This has to be talked about. They've had plenty of time right
- 1:01:54and by the way, I do want to give a shout out to ROH Khanna
- 1:01:57and I do want to give a shout out to I believe also the Chuck
- 1:02:01Schumer, the Democrat Senate Majority Leader, because they
- 1:02:05have been talking about talk right.
- 1:02:07They have been talking about, you know, changing the stance
- 1:02:10and being pro innovation and being pro Bitcoin and being pro
- 1:02:13crypto. But talk is talk is cheap.
- 1:02:17I, I want to see actions like you, you guys are in power now,
- 1:02:20right? Like look, if the Republicans
- 1:02:23are pro Bitcoin and crypto, the Democrats control the house,
- 1:02:28sorry, the Senate and the Democrats control the executive
- 1:02:31branch. They can pass a pro Bitcoin
- 1:02:35crypto bill right now. There should be no reason as to
- 1:02:38why that's not happening, right? So I mean like guys, I've we've
- 1:02:43laid out the case we've tried to be inclusive in our messaging.
- 1:02:46We've literally slow walked the F out of this to a point where
- 1:02:51like, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire, bro.
- 1:02:54Like come on now. It's just like it's it's pretty
- 1:02:58obvious, dude. Like I don't know what else.
- 1:03:00I don't know how. I don't know how else we can say
- 1:03:03this Opti. Yeah, I mean, and, and further,
- 1:03:05you know, I haven't voted since O 8 and I voted for Obama like
- 1:03:10because I really believed in the rhetoric here.
- 1:03:12So I don't I don't want to get painted as like this, you know,
- 1:03:15Republican conservative person. Like I'm, I'm not a Republican
- 1:03:18nor a Democrat, like I'm a Bitcoiner.
- 1:03:20But it's becoming very clear in this election that I might
- 1:03:23actually have to vote again. And it's been what like 16 years
- 1:03:28or something. But the way I'm seeing it is
- 1:03:31like one's pro Bitcoin, one is not.
- 1:03:34While I will admit that both parties will have to do a lot
- 1:03:37more for me to actually get up and vote, it does feel like this
- 1:03:40is a very important election, at least in terms of of pro Bitcoin
- 1:03:44and anti Bitcoin stances here. And as someone that wants to
- 1:03:47further Bitcoin adoption and, and not have to, you know, flee
- 1:03:51my country, I want to have an industry that does prosper in
- 1:03:54our world. And one side is making it very
- 1:03:57hard to believe anything they're saying when they say one thing
- 1:04:00and then their action completely disregard what they're saying.
- 1:04:04And I think this is what we're talking about constantly on the
- 1:04:06show. Just the hypocrisy.
- 1:04:08Yeah, 100% like like put up or shut up.
- 1:04:11Like like, like it's, it's another thing also like I got to
- 1:04:16say like the price control thing, that's not a good look.
- 1:04:21Like this is just like, come on now.
- 1:04:24Like come on. Like we're, you know, like we're
- 1:04:28bitcoiners or Austrian economy. Like you're talking about price
- 1:04:30controls like dude, like that's straight up fucking communism,
- 1:04:34dude. Like I don't know how else to
- 1:04:35say it like it's fucking crazy man.
- 1:04:39Anyways guys, I hope you enjoyed the Monday edition August 19,
- 1:04:442024 of simply Bitcoin live. If you guys enjoyed the show,
- 1:04:49you know to do smash the like button, consider subscribing if
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- 1:04:58I, I ask you guys, please, if you believe that I'm wrong, if
- 1:05:03you believe that I'm seeing something that's not there,
- 1:05:07please let us know down in the comments so that I could like,
- 1:05:11you know, so that we can include it in the messaging.
- 1:05:15I love the progressive case for Bitcoiner guys.
- 1:05:17I'm in constant communication with them.
- 1:05:20Love Dennis Porter, love what he's doing on a state level,
- 1:05:23communication with them, not trying to shit on their efforts
- 1:05:27whatsoever. And I'm not trying to shit on
- 1:05:29the Democratic Party either. I'm just like also not blind.
- 1:05:34And like, you're saying one thing and then doing the other
- 1:05:40is like, it's not exactly, you know, building my confidence up
- 1:05:46in how you're going to treat the industry from a regulatory
- 1:05:50perspective. So I hope they change course.
- 1:05:53I hope this becomes a nonpartisan issue like it should
- 1:05:56be, but this election, honestly, from a regulatory perspective, I
- 1:06:03think the Republicans would be a better vote or RFK.
- 1:06:08Just just a thought. Anyways guys, love you all and
- 1:06:12we'll see you on the next episode of Simply Bitcoin Live.
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