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  And now we're going to have a conversation with someone that also has a book that will soon be available in that shop at AmericaOut Loud.news.
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  Her name is Tracy Sepsevic.
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  And I think I butchered that, Tracy.
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  Tell me how to how do you say that?
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  Sepcific and I do that right.
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  Slapsevic, yes.
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  Slepsevic.
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  Okay.
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  I was not even close.
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  Uh I'm glad to have you.
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  And you deal with autism.
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  And I think so many people are really confused with what that actually means.
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  And just for a little background, I have a 31-year-old son that would be, I guess, considered on the spectrum back in the day, it was called Asperger's.
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  And he was tested for it a couple of times, very, very close.
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  But the doctor, because of insurance reasons, never wanted to say that he was uh had Asperger's.
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  But he has all of those things.
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  And then I also have a nephew that is um nine years old, and he was not communicative.
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  He couldn't communicate until he was six or seven years old.
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  So I have a little history with that, but I know that you have a lot more.
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  So if you could just start us out with your website, autismhealth.com.
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  Yes, so I have autismhealth.com and I also have warrior mom.com.
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  Um, so my journey began uh when my son was vaccine injured, and that was about 18 years ago, and it took me a really long time because um I was you know, I was I was constantly given the response of all this is normal.
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  This is normal.
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  And you know, when you watch your child regress after a routine visit, um, I'm here to tell you as a mom and as an advocate, it's not normal.
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  Uh so I ended up, you know, I I I continued um my journey with Noah, and unfortunately continued to vaccinate him, not knowing any better.
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  And then I just saw this major decline in in motor skills.
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  He lost all the speech, some cognitive function, and the lights just went out in my little boy.
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  So from there, I was on a journey to find out what was wrong with my son.
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  And I say on this beautiful journey, God sent me angels because um at my lowest points, not knowing what to do after two preschools said your kid has special needs, uh, we can't care for him.
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  Regional center loses our paperwork, and a pediatrician just keeps telling me that everything is just so normal.
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  And so on that journey, I I met some beautiful people who directed me on a wonderful path of healing my child.
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  And first it was to find out what was wrong with Noah.
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  And once we did, um, I had a great naturopath at the time.
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  And by no accident, because I do not believe in accidents, um, his office was adjacent to ours, and I was walking down the hallway crying after Noah's evaluation, and he reached out, gave me a hug and said, What's the matter?
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  And I said, Well, Noah was diagnosed with autism.
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  And from there, um, he's he stepped back for a moment, he looked me in the eyes, and he said, Noah is going to be fine.
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  He said, he told me, um, you need to go home and you need to do your research because kids with with autism are making great strides with biomedical intervention.
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  Now, this was 2008, and I had no idea what biomedical intervention.
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  Um, I had studied nutrition for many years, and at the time I was a psychology student, um, getting my own psychology lesson.
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  Um so it didn't take me long to drop out of out of um psychology.
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  Hey, Tracy, can I ask you a question?
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  Let's go back to Noah a minute.
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  How old was he when he got the vaccine that injured him that got you to where uh you knew something was wrong with him?
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  How old was that?
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  You said it was 18 years ago.
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  How old was he when he took that shot?
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  So it was about 15 months.
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  Okay.
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  Um, and to be honest with you, I I can't remember if you know, specifically if it was the MMR or if it was his other vaccines, but right around a year and a half, I remember asking my pediatrician why is my son regressing.
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  Um, he broke out in a full body rash at one point.
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  He had a fever for over a week.
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  After a couple weeks, they had to give him a mild steroid to flush it out.
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  Um, a lot of doctors today um in the functional medicine field have told me that he probably got um measles from the vaccine.
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  But if you ask me specifically, I can remember the events, but I I'm I remember Noah was was he had some baby words, he had full functionality.
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  He crawlerily all of that.
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  So he met all his mild stones, but then he he lost it all.
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  Right, right there.
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  I was gonna ask that question.
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  Were his motor skills and everything else seeming to be normal, and you just answered the question for us that yeah, he he seemed normal for an 18-month-old baby at the time, and then he had the vaccine, and then you go on the journey.
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  I interrupted you a minute ago when the the doctor said he's gonna be fine.
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  What happened after that to you?
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  So there brought out the warrior mom and me.
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  I stuck the tears back up into my eyes.
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  I went home and in 2008 and nine, you could Google healing autism and you can get a lot of great information.
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  Unfortunately, today everything is so censored, yeah, and it's unavailable.
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  So today, you know, I do my best to educate parents as best as I can through my substack, through emails, through conferences, and which led me to once you know, over time.
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  Um, when my doctor told me that Noah would be fine, I learned a lot about addressing underlying conditions associated with autism.
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  And it all begins in the gut.
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  So I read a bunch of books.
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  I I went to conferences, I went to tea talks.
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  I did, I did everything I could to gather as much information as I could possibly to heal my son.
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  Now, after he said that, um, I can tell you where your mind goes, energy flows, because not a single person in the world could tell me that my son was gonna live live a life that um, you know, where he was incapable of caring for himself or living.
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  The life that you had dreamed for him.
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  The life that you yeah.
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  So I I clap a I have a clear intention that Noah's gonna live a full functioning life.
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  And from there, I started my journey.
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  We we embarked on a journey of eating very clean.
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  Um, I found a great functional medicine doctor who assisted me in doing all those tests, you know, fecal tests, urine tests for heavy metals, um, blood tests, you know, checking for all the underlying stuff, even pre-genetics, like M THFR and mitochondrial disorder.
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  Um, all those things, you know, predispose these kids to vaccine injury because their immune system's not functioning properly, their bodies aren't getting getting rid of toxins the way it should when they have these pregenetic conditions.
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  You know, Tracy, if I can uh interrupt you real quick, because you you just said something there that it sounds like you could almost test your child before you ever give them a vaccine to see if they could possibly be vaccine injured before they get the vaccine.
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  Is that a possibility?
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  It is.
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  I mean, so it's not a for sure, but the chances that a child will regress um if they have let's say mitochondrial disorder is it is over 80 percent.
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  And a study was done on that.
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  Um, and then also most of these kids, I I can't even tell you.
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  Um every parent I've talked to, all of them have the MTHFR gene that I've spoken to.
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  So um it it's those are a lot that there's so many pre-genetic conditions that definitely expose them to injury because they have a weakened immune system and their bodies, you know, they're not functioning properly.
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  I I would just think that it's common sense that someone would develop some testing that could be done for babies so that we do not inject them with something that is going to take them down this path.
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  Why why isn't anyone doing that?
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  Why isn't someone developing that?
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  Well, your your guess is as good as mine.
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  It's almost seems too simple to me.
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  I cannot, with all good consciousness, and I'm sure you already know this, recommend any vaccine.
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  There is no real clinical trials done on a single vaccine except to compare it to itself or its old self that was previously approved.
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  And you know, books like Turtles All the Way Down, you know, expose that or vaxxed unvaxxed.
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  Um, I'm sure you've you've talked to Dr.
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  Brian Hooker, but you know, so many of the books that have
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  Have come out have exposed, you know, the inaccurate um details that that they give you in regards to vaccines.
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  But I got nothing.
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  When when I took my kid in to get vaccines, I got nothing.
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  Sign here.
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  Yeah.
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  Um that's it.
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  So there's no informed consent.
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  So when I when I write a substack, I do my best to cater to those who who still choose to vaccinate.
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  I want to give them facts, but I want them to know I think they should know the dangers and they should know what's in it.
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  They should know what that a you know, there's there's aborted fetal tissue in that fetal tissue, that baby, and it's usually between three and six months is still alive when they extract that tissue for for vaccinations.
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  I mean, it if people really knew what was in it, if they knew um, you know, the dangers of it of the neurotoxins, the adjuvants that are in it that they they claim they take took through marisol out of the MMR, but yet they still leave it in the most common injection out there, which is the flu shot.
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  Yeah.
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  So all these are neurotoxins.
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  But let's let's talk about when a kid gets a fever after getting I don't know, six, seven injections all at once.
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  What happens?
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  A doctor says, give him Tylenol.
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  So what happens when you give them Tylenol?
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  Acetamatophene opens the blood brain barrier.
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  So giving all those adjuvants, aluminum, you know, all the neurotoxins, access to the brain.
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  And it's you can't tell me that all of this isn't somehow planned out.
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  Let's let's dump down the population.
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  I hate to put it that way, but um make them vulnerable to manipulation and brainwashing.
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  And so they can control the masses.
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  That's just that's that's my view on it.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, and it doesn't take much to dumb down our society anymore, does it?
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  We're pretty well there.
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  You've mentioned your substack a couple of times.
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  Tell everybody where they can read your work.
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  And I, as you were speaking, I I realized that it sounds like you you're not passing judgment on anyone that may actually go ahead and have the vaccine.
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  You just want to put the facts out there.
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  Here's here's what the possibilities are if you have a vaccine with your child that is susceptible to these things, and this is what could happen, and you need to know what's in it.
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  And it seems like you're not taking a judgment stance, but just trying to educate people.
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  Oh, absolutely, because there are going to be those people that you know that don't want to listen, or they're living from a space of fear, and I have no judgment on that.
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  I I really don't.
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  Um, because I I've I have a personal experience.
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  I watched my son regress from an injury, and thousands of other parents have my same story.
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  It's not original, unfortunately.
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  Um, what made my story very original is is what I went through during this time as my husband fights big insurance and insurance fights back, you know, because he works, you know, to make sure that the clients get paid on their claims and big insurance doesn't like that.
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  So he exposed them for fraud and collusion on the news, and then he wound up on the front page of the LA Times in a smear campaign, losing his business, his credibility and everything else.
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  Today he'd fit in.
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  Um, but back then, and this was the same year my son was diagnosed with autism.
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  Yeah, I we lost our home.
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  We lost um, you know, our business.
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  We're I you know, we had no money.
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  And so here I am thinking, oh my god, I gotta get these treatments and therapies and everything for my kid.
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  What am I gonna do?
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  I bartered for treatments, I negotiated and I sold everything I owned, right down to short sailing my house to go to the Ukraine with Noah.
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  And it I'm I have no ties to stuff, but I definitely have ties to my family.
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  And so I wanted people to hear in my story that it doesn't take money, it takes a clear intention of what it is that you choose to create because you can create anything.
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  Um beyond that, I wanted to educate them on what to do, give them a guidebook, because if somebody would have just given me a guidebook back then, I it would have made it would have made a world of difference fighting against school districts, IEPs, um, you know, what what could I have done, you know, in biomedical intervention.
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  Uh so I write it all in there.
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  And um, so it's a little story about hope and inspiration, along with a guidebook of, you know, what do you do?
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  What is the name of your book?
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  Tell us the name of your book and where we can buy it.
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  I guess Amazon is uh available there.
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  It is so you can you can buy my book wherever books are sold online, even in other countries.
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  Uh, it's called Warrior Mom, a mother's journey and healing her son with autism.
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  Um, if you want a hardcover signed book, you can go to warrior mom.com and you can order that for $29.
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  And I put it in the mail to you.
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  Um, so yeah, it's pretty much wherever books are sold.
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  Amazon is the most common place to find it.
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  Okay, and give the name of the book one more time, and then I want to update on Noah and how he is doing now.
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  So the book is Warrior Mom, a mother's journey in healing her son with autism.
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  And Noah is doing fabulous.
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  Um, he is now 19 years old, he knows everything.
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  I just gotta tell you that.
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  Um, he is normal then for a 19-year-old.
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  Every 19-year-old knows everything.
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  They don't have a cure for teenage syndrome.
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  So he's doing good, he's functioning as he should, and I guess he has a future.
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  Is that correct?
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  He does.
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  He works, he drives, he um goes to school, he travels on his own, he does everything that I ever wanted for him.
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  Now, does he follow my dietary restrictions anymore?
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  No.
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  Well, he's 19.
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  We've had some discussions on that one.
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  Um, but we're working on it.
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  We're we're working on living a healthier lifestyle for him.
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  But other than that, he, you know, he's doing very well.
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  Um, he might have a little sensory disorder.
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  I think we all do in some area.
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  Sure.
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  But um, you know, in really large loud places, you know, sometimes.
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  But if it's a preferred place where he wants to be, he doesn't.
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  Yeah, he's okay with it then.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I'm the same way, by the way.
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  But it's great that you know, he is where he is now.
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  The interesting part to me as you told your story there was going back to that doctor that said he's going to be fine.
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  And in the end, Noah is fine, isn't he?
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  He is.
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  It was the journey that you had to go through to finally get here to see that Noah is fine and that doctor was right all those years ago.
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  And what you have done is tried to help other people with those steps that you had to learn on your own.
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  And you know, you know, you mentioned Substack.
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  What where can people find your writing on Substack?
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  So my Substack is at Autism Warrior Mom.
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  Um so I write so many different articles, and I don't know if anybody knows, but writing a book is a labor of love.
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  It's a lot of work in which right now, where I'm at being the president of a nonprofit organization, autism health, and you know, running a conference.
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  I don't currently have the time to write book number two.
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  So I decided a very dear friend of mine told me you should write a sub stack.
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  And it has literally just taken off.
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  I think I have like over 78,000 followers.
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  Um and I put as much information.
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  I so I'm a research junkie by trade.
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  I love to research.
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  And so I research all the information.
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  I put together as much um information as I want to get out there.
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  But I like I said, I I try to stand in the middle.
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  Now I have had some people respond to me and you know, say some nasty things, but that's okay.
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  That has everything to do with them, not me.
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  Um that's just a part of it, I've learned.
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  Well, Tracy, thank you so much for joining us.
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  The website is autismhealth.com.
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  You can go there.
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  That is the 501c3 nonprofit organization she has started.
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  Again, that is autismhealth.com.
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  Tracy, thanks for sharing your story.
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  Thanks for the work that you have done, and thank you for coming on the program.
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  And thank you for having me.
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  And also just a last last point.
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  We are having a conference in April in San Diego, the autism health summit.
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  So anybody who's impacted by autism, it would be a great opportunity for them to come.
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  Glad to be here.
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  I have encouraged people and I have successfully gotten people to show up in meetings all over this country.
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  If someone's listening to this now, talk about how important it is to be plugged into a local GOP office.
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  Yeah, and that's that's so simple to do.
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  And that's where that's where that starts.
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  Some states do it this way, some states do it that way.
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  But one thing I want to talk about is what is happening right now in Florida when it comes to politics.
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  I'm hearing this from people all over the country as well.
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  They go in with uh America First agenda on their mind, and they are being pushed back by the establishment Republicans, even within their own county meetings.
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  Can you talk about that?
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  Absolutely.
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  It's true.
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  And it's true all over Florida as well, unfortunately.
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  And that's that's sort of people would not think that.
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  I don't think, Mick.
• 26:55
  Democrats are far less diverse.
• 26:58
  They are as a rule.
• 27:01
  They basically tote the party line, whatever it happens to be.
• 27:06
  And Republicans are much more independent.
• 27:09
  They're much more independent.
• 27:12
  They're much more confident in their own abilities.
• 27:15
  And once you train them, they know right and wrong.
• 27:19
  And it's a hard sell to get somebody to do something wrong once they know it's wrong.
• 27:26
  And therein lies our problem with uh proverbial rhinos Republican in name only and the sum of the establishment, if you will.
• 27:34
  Yeah.
• 27:35
  Tell uh we didn't do this at the beginning of our conversation.
• 27:38
  Tell everyone what you do inside the Republican Party.
• 27:42
  Okay, I'm the Republican state committee man for the County of Lee, which is the eighth largest in the state of Florida, about to be seventh.
• 27:52
  And we have about 500,000 registered voters in the county and almost a million people.
• 27:58
  And so you represent the Republican Party there.
• 28:00
  You are also a state delegate.
• 28:02
  Is that correct?
• 28:03
  That's correct.
• 28:04
  Uh, the state committee man, basically, or state committee woman.
• 28:08
  Our job is to go to the Republican Party of Florida events and quarterlies and meetings, find out what the agenda is for the next three months, bring it back and share it with all of the precinct committee men and women at our local county level headquarters.
• 28:27
  So now I want to get back to the infighting that we have within the Republican Party.
• 28:32
  A lot of people are being discouraged.
• 28:34
  I I would say that the people that I have talked to, they uh they almost get to a point where they just want to quit because uh of the establishment rhinos or republicans that are there, and they are running off the America First people.
• 28:49
  Uh there's no Kumbaya moment, is there inside the Republican Party.
• 28:53
  Well, unfortunately, this goes back to the Tea Party, too.
• 28:56
  The America First movement, if you will, like the Tea Party, is being hijacked by the people in charge and has been, basically, since it was created.
• 29:08
  Um they have a very tight grip on control and want to keep it that way.
• 29:16
  And they feel threatened.
• 29:18
  We had the chairman of the rules committee for the Republican Party of Florida come down and tell us all the things we could not do regarding issues that we were having locally in October of last year with the chairman of the RPOF.
• 29:34
  They basically said what we want to do if we pursued it, we would all be removed.
• 29:40
  You would be removed from the board.
• 29:41
  Because we had a uh a terrible leader that was corrupting the balance of our executive board.
• 29:49
  And learning that only one person can in the entire organization for the state can remove rogue leadership is a real problem.
• 30:00
  Yeah.
• 30:01
  Yeah, when you need to be able to fix your problems when you know you have them.
• 30:04
  Well, and if you look at that at scale, when you look at it at 50 states across the nation, if there is one member of Republican Party that can have that much power over everyone within the state, then you're starting to understand why it's hard for America first to crash through the establishment that the Republican Party wants to hang on to in their control.
• 30:28
  Well, and then there's another aspect of that.
• 30:32
  The state chairman is the head over 67 counties in Florida, 159 in Georgia.
• 30:42
  I can keep going, but you see the point.
• 30:44
  Yeah.
• 30:44
  Each of these counties is basically their own little autonomous organization that answers to the people above.
• 30:54
  And part of what I discovered in researching with Florida and the way our organizations are designed is the RECs, the Republican executive committees at the local county level are all bottom-up organizations.
• 31:11
  The board serves the membership.
• 31:16
  The RPOF, the Republican Party of Florida in Tallahassee and/or Orlando or wherever we have our meetings, is top down.
• 31:26
  And when you have bottom-up and top-down combined slash collide, um, it's good that there are only three representatives coming from each county to deal with the state level bureaucracy, if you will.
• 31:40
  And I don't mean that in a negative way.
• 31:42
  We we have rules, we have constitutions.
• 31:46
  The problem is when people choose to not follow them.
• 31:49
  Are you finding that constantly?
• 31:52
  How are you finding it?
• 31:54
  Um, well, basically if you're a person who's familiar with Robert's rules of order, um, you know as well as I do.
• 32:02
  Quorum is required for every meeting.
• 32:04
  Sure.
• 32:05
  Well, not anymore.
• 32:07
  Not in the RPOF.
• 32:09
  As of December 1st or December 3rd, I think actually November 19th, the legal memorandum came down.
• 32:18
  Uh, that to for our organizational meetings, and an organizational meeting quite simply means an election meeting when you're electing your new board of executive directors, either at the state level or the county level, uh, to elect the chair and vice chair quorum isn't required.
• 32:40
  And who made that decision?
• 32:42
  That's a great question.
• 32:43
  Nobody has any answers for that.
• 32:45
  They just are arbitrarily changed a rule.
• 32:48
  The rules, so that basically, if they didn't have quorum, the the structure of our executive committee meetings is such that when you're having an election, the new chairman gets elected, and he basically takes over from the old chairman and runs the new meeting, runs the rest of the meeting.
• 33:11
  That's great, but they need to have been elected by a quorum.
• 33:16
  In our local county, we had 122 people who were discriminated against and excluded from the election with a total body of 261.
• 33:26
  And they went ahead and had the election and they changed people as a result of that.
• 33:30
  Yes, sir.
• 33:32
  Absolutely.
• 33:32
  And nobody knows how these rules were changed.
• 33:35
  They were just changed.
• 33:36
  Well, there was a legal memorandum that came down from the legal department, if you will, the legal the council for Mick that's the Republican Party of Florida, but you've got to understand.
• 33:54
  I guess that's probably the most polite word I can use.
• 33:57
  Umceola County, who has twice the membership we do and half the population, uh, was having the same circumstances going on, and they all walked out.
• 34:10
  They left the executive board holding the bag with nobody to vote for the new executive board.
• 34:18
  They just all boycotted because they knew it was wrong.
• 34:22
  There's an organization called the FRA, the uh Federated Republican Assemblies, I think, or the Republican Assemblies of Florida.
• 34:32
  Anyway, I've attended their meetings, and I've I was a camp, I was a candidate campaigning locally, and this was a uh a body of fellow Republicans, some of which were members of the Republican Executive Committee, some weren't.
• 34:48
  Um it's kind of like the RLC, the Republican Liberty Caucus.
• 34:53
  They're actually sanctioned under the RNC, the Republican National Committee and Convention.
• 34:59
  Um both operate freely throughout the state of Florida with their own county level organizations.
• 35:09
  And suddenly, I think in either March, April, or May, I wasn't paying close attention.
• 35:14
  The FRA got into a theft with the RPOF over the use of the name a Republican, and believe it or not, they're now this is where I feel like the battle of the egos really becomes counterproductive.
• 35:29
  They're arguing about the logos and monikers, such as who could display what elephant.
• 35:37
  And they both represent the elephant.
• 35:39
  I wouldn't even say fifth grade, I'd say five-year-olds.
• 35:43
  Yeah.
• 35:43
  As far as and and this is apparently leading to lawsuits because there's the one big guy who's got the big dog, and there's the other guy who's got a scrappy dog, and there's the other guy who's got a really scruffy dog, but that one's probably got more heart than everybody else put together.
• 36:02
  And we don't need a dog fight.
• 36:05
  Yeah.
• 36:06
  My problem is I've never understood, I've seen this happen in other states formerly.
• 36:11
  You can't grow an organization or a movement by dividing it andor dissolving it.
• 36:18
  It almost makes you wonder if it's being done by design somewhere.
• 36:22
  Oh, absolutely.
• 36:23
  I mean, what happened in Osceola County happened exactly here in Lee.
• 36:28
  And has happened in other counties across the state.
• 36:32
  And what people don't seem to realize is that people in my position now, um, and my counterpart and other people who are networking with all of these other counties throughout the state, we're all comparing notes.
• 36:47
  And there's also the advent of social media.
• 36:51
  There's X, there's Facebook, there's signal chats, there's all kinds of stuff for there.
• 36:59
  There are a multitude of true social.
• 37:02
  There are a multitude of media streams that can be tapped into you for communication and networking.
• 37:11
  And when you realize it is, I can't call it a conspiracy.
• 37:16
  I have to call it an active fight for one of better words between different organizations that are similar but not the same.
• 37:27
  That all basically, so I thought, want the same goals.
• 37:32
  However, BAGA, make America great again.
• 37:36
  I don't see how that should be threatening to anybody.
• 37:39
  Um, and America First and Patriotic grassroots people like me who go out there, raise their own money, use their own money, and run for political office and get support on a grassroots level from people across the county rather than political action committees out of Tallahassee or Orlando or other states, even do a bash up job on my opponent who was the incumbent.
• 38:06
  Um aren't how politics has always worked.
• 38:11
  And I've been in this since I was 15 years old.
• 38:13
  I'm not naive.
• 38:16
  I'm some uh sometimes it seems like I'm eternally frustrated because the Republican Party is famous for circular firing squads.
• 38:25
  Yeah.
• 38:26
  We have the ability to steal defeat from the jaws of victory, doggone near every time.
• 38:33
  That's what happened in 20.
• 38:34
  That's what's happened in 22.
• 38:36
  I know 20 was the most corrupt national election we've had since 1876, which led to 11 years later, the electoral count act of 1887.
• 38:50
  You are listening to Mick Peters, he's heavily involved in the state of Florida in the Republican Party.
• 38:55
  You are listening to the fight that is happening in a deep red state.
• 39:00
  You wouldn't really think that something like this would be going on in a state like Florida, where you see Donald Trump wins by millions of votes.
• 39:07
  Rick Scott, the senator, he wins by millions of votes.
• 39:10
  It would seem like everything is happy and great in the state of Florida for the Republican Party, but you're hearing that it's not.
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• 42:51
  I'm Booker Scott.
• 42:52
  We're visiting with Mick Peters from the Republican Party in the state of Florida.
• 42:56
  You're listening how the infighting is taking place right now in the state of Florida.
• 43:01
  A lot of lawsuits are going to be coming as a result of what's happening.
• 43:05
  I want to back up to something you said a few minutes before the break there.
• 43:08
  And you said when I asked the question about who's doing this, and you said it's coming from attorneys, but it's coming from above.
• 43:15
  You know, somebody is hiring the attorney to tell them what to do.
• 43:18
  Where do you think it's coming from in the state of Florida?
• 43:21
  Um the establishment and the political action committees, and the people who want to retain their power at the most local levels, and all that position all the way to the top.
• 43:37
  Um it's it's not unusual for people who feel threatened to let the you know hair get up on the back of their neck and go, well, no, I need to stand up and do something about this.
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:48
  Well, all we're trying to do is grow the organization.
• 43:53
  With more people in it to make the Republican Party more successful, even stronger, more stable, more secure, better funded.
• 44:02
  It all there's the power of numbers.
• 44:06
  And you can't grow the power of numbers if you're busy dividing and and infighting.
• 44:12
  I'm sorry, I'm not a peaceneck, but I do believe in in constructive growth.
• 44:19
  Let me just give you an example.
• 44:21
  Our Republican executive committee in Lee County should be 1,100 people strong.
• 44:27
  We have 261 members.
• 44:31
  And that's the most well, we've shrunk a little bit of late, but two years ago, our goal was to grow the organization dramatically, and we got up to about 318, and then we had issues with we had management issues.
• 44:46
  How about that?
• 44:46
  Yeah.
• 44:48
  Uh and people get fed up and frustrated because we have rules.
• 44:52
  We operate our meetings by the Florida uh Republican Party's rules of procedure, the Republican Party of Florida's constitution, and the county model constitution, which all basically give us a guidebook.
• 45:09
  I mean, it's it's a literal flow chart for if this happens, you do that.
• 45:13
  And these are the things you can't do, and these are the things that you should do.
• 45:17
  And you know, when it comes to things like uh party loyalty oaths, etc.
• 45:22
  These are the things you must do.
• 45:24
  And we've had for want of better words, micromanagers nitpicking things like people left off on their party loyalty oath or their application, the county name of Lee, for example, or you know, Alatua, or whatever county of many in Florida, all 67.
• 45:50
  And yet they still had their name, their address, their zip code, and you could clearly tell which county they were in.
• 45:57
  By any attorney's description, I think they'd call that a scrivener's error.
• 46:02
  That application was denied for people who've been in 15 and 20 years.
• 46:08
  Other people had to bring back their loyalty oath or their applications as many as three and four times, and somehow our REC REC management still wound up losing 27, and couldn't accept photocopied applications from another 57 and so on.
• 46:30
  It was and we're not talking about Democrats here.
• 46:33
  You're talking about other Republicans.
• 46:36
  Unfortunately, yes, they just don't act like it.
• 46:38
  Yeah, you know, you're looking for synergy, you're looking for a bunch of people moving in the same direction, and then you're going through all of this.
• 46:45
  And now I'm hearing this from people in New York.
• 46:47
  I'm hearing it from people in California.
• 46:50
  Now, you mentioned a number of 300, 318, I think, exactly.
• 46:54
  Was that the biggest hour REC got to be, but I like I said, ironically, Osceola County as an example has half the county population we do, half the elected officials and um precincts and voters that we do, and yet they have more than double our REC membership.
• 47:17
  So let's talk a minute about that number, because that's not a huge number.
• 47:21
  And I want people that are listening to understand what you can do to make a difference in how you, as at one of those numbers, and a bunch of your friends like you could make a huge difference in how things are done, including vetting the right politicians so that you have someone else to vote for instead of these bozos that are trying to pass an omnibus in a continuing resolution.
• 47:45
  1580 pages away.
• 47:48
  Right.
• 47:48
  So you go I was really excited because we've been impacted personally, my family by three flooding event hurricanes over the course of the last two years.
• 47:59
  First, there was Ian on September 28, 2022.
• 48:05
  Then we had Nicole, um, sorry, sorry, Helene and Milton this year.
• 48:10
  We were flooded twice in 13 days.
• 48:13
  After we still hadn't even completely recovered from Ian two years ago, we were still rebuilding our house.
• 48:20
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  And it's so devastating.
• 48:23
  And when I first heard that there was going to be a hundred billion dollars in this continuing resolution for hurricane and fires and natural disaster disaster recovery, I was so completely thrilled.
• 48:39
  I was like, thank you, Jesus.
• 48:41
  This is what we need, because we really do need help.
• 48:43
  Our county still has tens of thousands of people living in temporary trailers in front of their houses.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:49
  And I represent a whole community of them that live close to some on canals, some not, some on the river, most not, of one of the oldest subdivisions in Lee County.
• 49:02
  And I don't mean to get off on a tangent here, but there's probably a hundred million dollars worth of damage on the river, a quarter of a mile in one direction to a half a mile in the other direction from my home.
• 49:19
  And dozens and dozens and dozens of houses like mine.
• 49:24
  The owners have gotten notices from the county floodplain coordinator, informing us that we have to raise our homes after we're still trying to repair them from two floods in 13 days.
• 49:39
  Yeah.
• 49:40
  Less than three months ago.
• 49:42
  And that hundred billion dollars, just knowing that there was a good potential that a lot of it was going to come this way, gonna come to the North Carolina Mountains where they desperately need it, where I moved down here from 35 years ago.
• 49:56
  I was just thrilled to my marrow.
• 49:58
  And then I found out now.
• 50:00
  No, that's for lots of new buildings and offices for FEMA nationwide.
• 50:05
  What a shame.
• 50:06
  The Republicans didn't seem to be the ones who are voting for it as much as the Democrats.
• 50:11
  I don't know how long Mike Johnson's going to be able to remain speaker.
• 50:15
  Yeah, I talked about that last night.
• 50:16
  I don't think he will.
• 50:17
  I think he's going to be out of there in January.
• 50:19
  But I want to talk to the folks that are listening here about what they can do to get involved.
• 50:24
  So if someone is listening to this right now, we want to talk to them about what they can do to make a difference here in the 22 midterm in the election in their life.
• 50:34
  And it's really even greater than that because it's the school board, it's the county commission, it's your city government.
• 50:40
  All of those things are part of it.
• 50:41
  And if we're going to turn this country around, we need you to get involved.
• 50:46
  You know, Dan Schultz, he has the uh precinct committee website.
• 50:51
  And I know both of us know him.
• 50:53
  He has been on the program before.
• 50:55
  And when he was with us, he mentioned that there are 400,000 precinct committee chairs in the country, and then only about half of them are full.
• 51:05
  And that's a big problem.
• 51:07
  We need to get people there to fill those seats.
• 51:10
  And that's why I was talking about that 318 number a few minutes ago, because it's that's not a lot of people.
• 51:17
  No, it's not, especially in a county of almost a million.
• 51:19
  Right.
• 51:20
  We can completely change the complexion of the Republican Party and the apparatus that's already there just by having people to go get involved locally.
• 51:30
  Is that fair?
• 51:31
  Donald John Trump has transformed this party into the working man's party.
• 51:37
  And the secret is those working men and women need to do like me and step up and volunteer to be on your local municipalities planning commission.
• 51:49
  Or work with the school boards, different organizational levels that they have for volunteers for making the system more smooth and financially efficient.
• 52:02
  There are so many places, there's so many jobs in government that aren't jobs at all.
• 52:08
  They're volunteer positions that have an incredible amount of weight long term.
• 52:14
  I've been on four different county and three, five, sorry, different city planning commissions.
• 52:22
  I've done our participated in our ears and our comprehensive growth plan reviews.
• 52:29
  Um I've learned the language.
• 52:32
  I it was what basically started me off in getting serious about politics because realizing when you have a comprehensive growth plan for a community, you know where your growth is going to be instead of the unbridled stuff that's just going on crazily across the state now.
• 52:51
  Um of us prepared our comprehensive plans and our uh evaluations and reviews, years they called them, and sent them off to the Department of Community Affairs in Tallahassee for review.
• 53:06
  So basically everybody had a boss, and the system worked, and growth.
• 53:13
  I hate the word sustainable and sustainability, but growth was well managed, and you didn't have four story condos and apartment complexes going into wetlands.
• 53:25
  So if someone wants to get involved, how do they do that?
• 53:29
  I've told people, you know, Google Google your county.
• 53:33
  Or you hit the internet and you find out what ironically, most municipalities, doggone near everyone.
• 53:41
  I'm familiar with, even the smallest ones in Florida, have a website.
• 53:46
  And they usually have a page for volunteer come and help.
• 53:50
  It's the same way with the Republican Party of Florida.
• 53:53
  It's the same way with the Republican Party of each county, all 67 in Florida.
• 53:59
  I know it's the same way in Georgia as well.
• 54:02
  There's volunteers, there's precinct committee men and committee women, which is a much more serious volunteer job, if you will.
• 54:10
  Um volunteers show up and help people sign in for meetings, or help with the polls and polling, passing out water at polling places, or uh flyers for you know who they're recommending should be voted for, etc.
• 54:30
  They they hold signs, etc.
• 54:33
  There's so many things that volunteers can do if they don't have the time or don't want to make the commitment to be a precinct committee man or committee woman.
• 54:42
  And they're desperately needed too, always.
• 54:45
  Yeah, and now is the time to do it for the next election.
• 54:49
  You're gonna wait.
• 54:51
  You're gonna wait until it's time to go vote, and you're gonna get frustrated again because the right people aren't there for you to vote for.
• 54:58
  If you want to make a difference, now is the time to start making the difference.
• 55:03
  Go get involved locally.
• 55:05
  That's that's how we make a difference in this country.
• 55:08
  His name is Mick Peters.
• 55:09
  Mick, thank you so much for joining us and sharing your knowledge.
• 55:12
  And thank you for the invitation.
• 55:14
  I do it every minute.
• 55:16
  Yeah, and sharing uh what's going on in the in the state of Florida, because I think so many people think Florida's just deep red, everybody thinks the same way.
• 55:23
  That is not the regarding the Democrat that they just brought over to the Republican Party who has simply changed jackets, but none of her values and ethics.
• 55:37
  It's scary.
• 55:38
  Yeah.
• 55:38
  We're going to degrade our party if we don't hold on to our values.
• 55:42
  Okay.
• 55:43
  And if you just go to RPOF.org and click on about, you can read the mission statement for the Republican Party of Florida.
• 55:51
  And unfortunately, it's not being practiced by a lot of people, but it's been one of the best ways I've been able to pull people back from the edge and stop breaking rules, is read what we're supposed to be doing.
• 56:06
  This is who we are.
• 56:07
  This is who we're supposed to be.
• 56:09
  We advocate for freedom, independence, free speech, uh a solid constitutional state and country, uh, a great state to raise our kids, the the most sound and strong Republican Party in the nation.
• 56:26
  Those are the things we advocate for.
• 56:28
  And it's right there in that mission statement.
• 56:30
  Thank you.
• 56:33
  Have a great night.
• 56:34
  There is only one truth.
• 56:37
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America out loud.