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  Speaker 1: Is the reform it tonight. How China can use your
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  Speaker 1: robot vacuum cleaner to spy on you. How the press
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  Speaker 1: counsel attacked our greatest cartoonists for drawing this. Guess what
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  Speaker 1: the problem with this cartoon is. And the disgusting bars
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  Speaker 1: of the ABC two appalling new examples from an organization
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  Speaker 1: now so out of control and so viciously anti Israel.
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  Speaker 1: But first the speaking of just that, What a day
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  Speaker 1: of shame for the Prime minister, a day when under
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  Speaker 1: pressure he just dug himself a deeper hole, a deeper
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  Speaker 1: pit of disgrace. His authority as a leader is now broken.
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  Speaker 1: This actually started last night when Anthony Albanezi went to
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  Speaker 1: Melbourne for his Zion's Victoria commemoration for the twelve hundred
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  Speaker 1: Jews slaughtered by Hamas on October seven last year. And
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  Speaker 1: even as he walked in he would have heard and
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  Speaker 1: seen from protest signs, for one, how many Jews felt
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  Speaker 1: betrayed by him and his government.
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  Speaker 2: What he.
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  Speaker 1: It got worse. And that's because Jews have said, we
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  Speaker 1: all have seen how albany Izi has pandered to Muslim voters.
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  Speaker 1: Refused to call that hate preachers attacked Israel, been weak
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  Speaker 1: in acting against the insane anti Semitism on our streets.
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  Speaker 1: And last night at this function, the sign is a
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  Speaker 1: Victoria President Jose goldfab with Alberis is sitting right in
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  Speaker 1: front of him. Let him have it, for his weakness
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  Speaker 1: is permissiveness. And listen here to the cheers of other
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  Speaker 1: Jews as he did.
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  Speaker 3: There is a permissiveness that has let anti Semitism fester,
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  Speaker 3: a permissiveness encouraged by weak and ambiguous.
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  Speaker 4: Expositions of our foreign policy that, in our community's view,
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  Speaker 4: have weakened our social cohesion, leaving us leaving us the field.
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  Speaker 3: The state of Israel has been abandoned as a natural
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  Speaker 3: ally of the Australian people.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if that didn't tell alban Ezi it was on
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  Speaker 1: the wrong path, then this morning's headlines should have. Even
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  Speaker 1: the left wing Guard in Australia had to admit after
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  Speaker 1: comparing Albanesi's note with Peter Dutton's in another commemoration, jeers
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  Speaker 1: for alban Easy and cheers for Dunin as leaders joined
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  Speaker 1: Jewish communities to mark seven October atrocities. So this morning,
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  Speaker 1: the first day of the last sitting of Parliament for
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  Speaker 1: the year, Albanize. He must have realized he needed to
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  Speaker 1: show that he did get at about this anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 1: about the preachers of this mad anti israel hate, like
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  Speaker 1: this academic, a fool who has chosen to address a
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  Speaker 1: Muslim mob at the Lukember Mosque last night seeming to
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  Speaker 1: gloat over the Jewish dead.
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  Speaker 5: Today is not fully a day of mourning in many respects,
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  Speaker 5: today is also a day that marks considerable celebration, considerable
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  Speaker 5: progress and in some respects considerable privilege.
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  Speaker 1: Now show the government said quickly say, oh look, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to look at canceling that American's visa. Why did
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  Speaker 1: he even have one? But Albanese needed much more so.
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  Speaker 1: When Opposition leader Peter Dutton this morning knocked on his
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  Speaker 1: office store, Albanize should have realized he'd been offered a gift.
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  Speaker 1: Dutton was following up on a letter it sent, as
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  Speaker 1: he told Parliament today.
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  Speaker 6: On Saturday, I write to the Prime Minister suggesting that
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  Speaker 6: we should arrive over to bipartisan position and bring a
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  Speaker 6: motion before the House to mark the anniversary of October seven.
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  Speaker 6: This motion was supposed to be about October seven, about
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  Speaker 6: the loss of human life. I proposed to the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 6: a motion which was balanced and objective.
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  Speaker 1: Dunn't even had the words ready for them both to
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  Speaker 1: agree on that. Our Parliament unequivocally condemns the attack on Israel,
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  Speaker 1: Bahamas and out of the terrorist groups too. It acknowledges
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  Speaker 1: the attacks came after a long period of quiet at
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  Speaker 1: the border, and acknowledges that Iran was behind these terror groups,
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  Speaker 1: and acknowledged all the deaths of civilians Palestinian as well
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  Speaker 1: as Israeli. And for some reason Abnezi refused to agree
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  Speaker 1: to that. I don't know. I mean a weak man, stubbornness,
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  Speaker 1: a fear of upsetting Muslims, a contempt for Israel or
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  Speaker 1: was it that line?
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  Speaker 7: That?
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  Speaker 1: And it also suggested about Israel sharing our values and
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  Speaker 1: Israel's battle being a battle against the enemies of civilized
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  Speaker 1: people everywhere, which is absolutely true. Whatever Albanize have refused.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I want my words, not yours. Except Albanese's words,
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  Speaker 1: which you've read around Parliament today, weren't just about the
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  Speaker 1: suffering of the Jews last October seven. Certainly it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: about a war for civilization. Instead, Albanese included his demands
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  Speaker 1: for a ceasefire just when Israel is destroying the terrorist
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  Speaker 1: armies pledged to its destruction, and there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: more talk about poor Palestinians. So what should have been
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  Speaker 1: just the moment of mourning for twelve hundred Jews so
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  Speaker 1: savagely slaughtered a year ago, was hijacked by Albanizi, who
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  Speaker 1: into a defense of his both sides approach, of his
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  Speaker 1: pathetic demands that Israel stopped shooting back.
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  Speaker 8: And let's be very clear, Australia's position is can assistant
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  Speaker 8: with other democratic countries. Escalation denies diplomacy any chance of working.
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  Speaker 8: On September twenty sixth, Australia joined with eleven other nations,
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  Speaker 8: including the US, Canada, France, Germany and the UK Japan,
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  Speaker 8: to call for de escalation.
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  Speaker 1: Even more pathetic with an alban Easy who seemed suddenly
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  Speaker 1: so I'm sure of himself, then table documents quoting other
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  Speaker 1: people who backed them are the weak people.
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  Speaker 8: I table, mister speaker, This statement from President Joe Biden
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  Speaker 8: marking one year since the October seventh attack, the statement
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  Speaker 8: from the G seven leaders.
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  Speaker 1: But it wasn't just pathetic. This was disastrous politics because
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  Speaker 1: it gave Peter Dutton the opening and he went for him.
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  Speaker 6: As I've said, we've gone backwards and forwards with the
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  Speaker 6: Prime Minister and his officer this morning in good faith,
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  Speaker 6: but not able to reach agreement in relation to this matter.
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  Speaker 6: And I think what it says to Australian's Mister Speaker
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  Speaker 6: is that on this day, the eighth of October, the
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  Speaker 6: day after the first sitting day after the seventh of
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  Speaker 6: October anniversary, that this Prime Minister wasn't able to lead
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  Speaker 6: a moment of bypartisanship in this Parliament, which in my
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  Speaker 6: memory is without precedent. Prime Minister, there has always been
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  Speaker 6: a bipartisan position between your predecessors. You're citing Biden, France,
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  Speaker 6: hawk keating, you don't mention them, you don't mention rad
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  Speaker 6: you don't mention Guillard. There has been a position of
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  Speaker 6: bipartisanship on these issues, and your predecessors would have had
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  Speaker 6: the decency to respect the Jewish community in a way
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  Speaker 6: that you have not done today.
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  Speaker 2: And for that, Prime.
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  Speaker 6: Minister, you should stand condemned.
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  Speaker 1: And so today something you rarely see when as in
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  Speaker 1: motion is put to Parliament. Yes, it passed with the
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  Speaker 1: Coalition didn't vote, didn't vote for it because of Albanize's
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  Speaker 1: stubborn both side isms. It's shamed Australia. It's shamed the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister who was so rattled and angry that he
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  Speaker 1: snapped at Shadow Treasure Angus Taylor with a playground insult
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  Speaker 1: that he quickly regretted.
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  Speaker 8: It's nonsense that they carry on with the idea that
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  Speaker 8: where have you got touret's or something you know you
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  Speaker 8: see there, bab bab bab.
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  Speaker 1: Abanese. He knew he had gone too far and quickly apologized.
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  Speaker 1: But will history forgive him for today? That said business
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  Speaker 1: does go on and the Prome Minister did announce a victory.
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  Speaker 1: He had now flown back more than a thousand Australian
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  Speaker 1: citizens and permanent residents from Lebanon for free, and they
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  Speaker 1: were touching scenes at the airport as some return today.
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  Speaker 1: But who exactly is how an easy flying back to
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  Speaker 1: Australia for free? Well, many are Elebanese people who have
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  Speaker 1: taken out Australians citizenship but still live in Lebanon with
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  Speaker 1: the passport there, in some cases just the parachute for
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  Speaker 1: times like this, And we found today the people flying
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  Speaker 1: back included at least one who knows how many more
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  Speaker 1: whose support will at least defend Hasblah listen here as
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  Speaker 1: a terrorist group. It's the terrorist group that fired what
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  Speaker 1: is it, nearly nine thousand missiles and rockets into Israel,
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  Speaker 1: which is now shooting back.
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  Speaker 9: Are defending Lebanon from there the Israeli invade Israeli the
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  Speaker 9: invade Lebanon.
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  Speaker 1: They invade the Lebanon many times before. And he's Zoe
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  Speaker 1: who are defending our land and they have the right
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  Speaker 1: to fight the Israeli invasion. It only went. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the three thousand Palestinians from tourists from Gaza that Albanzi
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  Speaker 1: gave tourist visas to without even an interview. Who exactly
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  Speaker 1: is this government bringing in? But let's switch to comedy
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  Speaker 1: before we get serious again. Maybe we shouldn't, because even
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  Speaker 1: drawing a cartoon about this governor's clownish immigration policies is
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  Speaker 1: not safe now, as our free speech gets strangled. This
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  Speaker 1: government has so far brought in more than a million immigrants,
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  Speaker 1: and its promises to slash these crazy numbers approving worthless.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Knuda, the Herald's Son, one of our greatest cartoons,
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  Speaker 1: did a cartoon about this mess, showing Peter Dutton offering
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  Speaker 1: to take over from the struggling Prime minister to pull
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  Speaker 1: up our drawbridge. But oh dea, some anonymous person complained,
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  Speaker 1: look how many of the immigrants are Muslims or brown
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  Speaker 1: and why is that looking like a hero by offering
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  Speaker 1: to shut them out now? Unbelievably, the Australian Press Council
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  Speaker 1: took this complaint seriously. It dragged in Mark Knight to
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  Speaker 1: be grilled a panel chaired by Muhammad al Ruby, a
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  Speaker 1: lawyer who's worked extensively in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia,
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  Speaker 1: and this panel is now found Mark Knut guilty of
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  Speaker 1: causing substantial offense and prejudice. Mark Knight interrupted his holiday
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  Speaker 1: earlier to join me. Mark, No, thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Look who complained about your cartoon.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, Andrew. It's a mystery complainant. I'm not
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  Speaker 9: allowed to know. But they made a complaint to the
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  Speaker 9: Australian Press Council and it was pursued through that and
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  Speaker 9: I stated my case and they said it, well, look
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  Speaker 9: at it should go to adjudication before a panel, which
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  Speaker 9: it did I don't know, a month and a half ago.
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  Speaker 9: And they went away and considered our discussion and the
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  Speaker 9: panel's assessment, and they came back and found against me
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  Speaker 9: for contravening. I think it's general principle six. So I
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  Speaker 9: have contravened that.
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  Speaker 1: Not general principle sex mark. Oh my goodness, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean what a country this is? So some anonymous person
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  Speaker 1: that no one knows is allowed to make a complaint
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  Speaker 1: and you're dragged before the Press Council now leading your examination.
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  Speaker 1: You say it was a nice sky called Mohammad. He's
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer who's done a lot of work in places
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  Speaker 1: like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, you wait, Egypt. He knows about tyrannies.
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  Speaker 1: He led your examination. What did he want to know?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think the offense in the cartoon was not
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  Speaker 9: that I had sort of sent up Alba and Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 9: because it was a cartoon about if you're showing it
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  Speaker 9: to your viewers, and there it is about Australia's front door,
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  Speaker 9: and you remember we had this massive influx of immigration
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  Speaker 9: over seven hundred thousand, up by like seventy three percent,
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  Speaker 9: I think was the figure. And so I had drawn
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  Speaker 9: Elbow and Dutton in their various positions, which was you know,
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  Speaker 9: Albo was said he was going to try and close
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  Speaker 9: the drawbridge, but he was taking his time because you know,
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  Speaker 9: high immigration was keeping the economy out of recession, so
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  Speaker 9: they're in no real hurry, I think. And then of
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  Speaker 9: course Peter Dutton came in all hairy chests and step aside, elbow,
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  Speaker 9: I'll close the drawbridge. So it was it was like
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  Speaker 9: sort of a vaudeville send up of the two leaders.
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  Speaker 9: And then I thought I should put a few people
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  Speaker 9: coming in just to illustrate that it's about entries into Australia,
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  Speaker 9: and so I drew a random bunch of people, some
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  Speaker 9: in ethnic dress, Indian people, people from the Middle East,
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  Speaker 9: people from Africa. As you know, if you live in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 9: we have all these great ethnicities now in our town.
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  Speaker 9: And the cartoon went to press, what it seems that
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  Speaker 9: I have annoyed this person about is? I think three things.
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  Speaker 9: Was the fact that I drew people of color, people
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  Speaker 9: in hijobs and traditional dress. I didn't draw enough Chinese
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  Speaker 9: or Indians. There are Indian people in it. If you'll
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  Speaker 9: notice the man in the center with the suitcases raising
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  Speaker 9: his fist in sort of exaltation. You know, why wouldn't
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  Speaker 9: you be excited to be in Australia, and I didn't
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  Speaker 9: draw enough Filipino people because apparently they are leading immigrant
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  Speaker 9: ethnicity into Australia. The last thing I did wrong was
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  Speaker 9: the mystery accusers that I made Peter Dunnan looked like
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  Speaker 9: a superhero, which is a crime.
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  Speaker 1: Mark. I do wonder if it was natural for you
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  Speaker 1: to infact feature a number of Muslims in this cartoon
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  Speaker 1: about politicis of slowing immigration, precisely because there is growing
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  Speaker 1: concern about Muslim immigration. I mean, we see that right
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  Speaker 1: now in response to the radicalism and tolerance towards Jews,
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  Speaker 1: even just yesterday. And I doubt your cartoon would have
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  Speaker 1: been as effective had it shown politicians, you know, fighting
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  Speaker 1: to keep out British immigrants or Swedish or French or Dutch,
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  Speaker 1: God forbid. Did that instinctively go through your mind?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean that cartoon was drawn back in May,
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  Speaker 9: and as we have seen since the attacks on Israel,
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  Speaker 9: we have seen I guess, an increase in in concerns
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  Speaker 9: about protests. But when I did draw that cartoon, there
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  Speaker 9: was They were not concerns or issues that I was
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  Speaker 9: I was thinking about at the time. But I think
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  Speaker 9: people who are involved in protests and things. May have
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  Speaker 9: seen the cartoon and felt that that was what I
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  Speaker 9: was directing it at. But as I said before, it was.
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  Speaker 9: And if you look at everybody in the cartoon, they're
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  Speaker 9: they're ing entering Australia.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're all very happy.
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  Speaker 9: It's a very benign, lovely entry. It's it's not like
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  Speaker 9: as I said in a story this morning, throwing opening
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  Speaker 9: throwing open the doors to myre on on the boxing
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  Speaker 9: day sale. It's it's it's a very comfortable group of
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  Speaker 9: people entering Australia. But yes, in these current times it
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  Speaker 9: could be misconstrued.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, the fact is, of course that some people
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  Speaker 1: do have those concerns, and now you have been warned
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  Speaker 1: do not express them, Mark Note, because you might have
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  Speaker 1: yet another trip to that Press Council and be quizzed
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  Speaker 1: on the and exactly how you draw faces, And I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's just so extraordinary, Mark, You're living in a
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  Speaker 1: Kafka world. Now, good luck negotiating this.
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  Speaker 9: I will keep on sketching, Andrew. And there are a
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  Speaker 9: lot of people out there who'd love to be outraged,
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  Speaker 9: and I'm only too happy to oblige them.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark Note, Thanks for your time. Cheers, mate.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the real joke is here? Is there
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  Speaker 1: an immigration intake. Now I've said that for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: but incredibly now even a minister of the alban Easy
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  Speaker 1: government agrees with me. Mark Thislthway, the Assistant Minister for Immigration.
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  Speaker 10: Migration has been unresponsive to Australia's needs. It's provided marginal
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  Speaker 10: economic benefit and hasn't enhanced labor productivity. It's been concentrated
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  Speaker 10: in capital cities, creating some social tension, and skilled shortages
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  Speaker 10: have persisted.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a line out of my columns. Now this
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  Speaker 1: away says, oh no, no, this government is now going
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  Speaker 1: to fix it with all the previous governments fall Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well I believe that when they see it. But let's
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  Speaker 1: not forget the government after government told us that high
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  Speaker 1: immigration is good for us, and here we have a
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  Speaker 1: labor minister admitting, no, it hasn't done us much good
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  Speaker 1: at all. I mean, just today the ABC reports said
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  Speaker 1: half a million people that were brought in here are
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  Speaker 1: skilled workers. We were told, oh we really need these
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  Speaker 1: skilled workers. They aren't actually doing skilled work at all,
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  Speaker 1: not much of it. Some are just stacking shells. Join me.
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  Speaker 1: Every Tuesday is Center to Mat Canavan, the former Resources
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  Speaker 1: minister mc cannavan, good to see you again here. We've
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  Speaker 1: got an Amberanezy government minister that in the cat out
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  Speaker 1: of the bag voters have been absolutely conned. But politicians
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  Speaker 1: claiming mass immigration is good for.
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  Speaker 11: Us, well, I welcome someone saying the truth from the
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  Speaker 11: Labor government. It is absolutely true and although to try
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  Speaker 11: to blame it on the former government's a little bit rich.
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  Speaker 11: When the borders were closed for almost all of the
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  Speaker 11: last term of the former governor due to COVID, the
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  Speaker 11: new government, the alb and Easy government, elected just months
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  Speaker 11: after we opened their international borders, had a job to do.
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  Speaker 11: We were coming out of COVID, and of course we
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  Speaker 11: had to restart some level of migration. But people forget now,
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  Speaker 11: I think probably Matt this Lwait has forgotten that. At
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  Speaker 11: the time, the Labor government's immigration minist was crowing about
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  Speaker 11: the fact that we're working through this backlog of visa requests,
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  Speaker 11: we're speeding up the process. We're going to basically approve everything.
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  Speaker 11: And that's a promise they did meet. Because Labor has
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  Speaker 11: brought in a founding more than a million people in
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  Speaker 11: net terms in this country over just their two years
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  Speaker 11: first two years in office. That's to Canberras in two years.
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  Speaker 11: And that's principally the reason. While we have tents propping
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  Speaker 11: up in our major cities to house people, there are
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  Speaker 11: out enough houses around. It's why rents are soaring and
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  Speaker 11: people can't afford to live here in this country anymore.
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  Speaker 11: That has to be stopped. The government is trying to
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  Speaker 11: close the gate now after the horse has bolted. It's
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  Speaker 11: a bit late to be admitting these things now, but
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  Speaker 11: I suppose better late than never. Andrew, we have to
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  Speaker 11: have a migration program, but it has to be sensibly
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  Speaker 11: set in accordance with Australian's needs.
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  Speaker 1: First, Mcanavan. I've been passing about something all day when
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  Speaker 1: it's jong memory. In two thousand and one, during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: we flew Australians from India during the COVID crisis. They
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  Speaker 1: had no other option. You know, you remember how things
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  Speaker 1: were then with floods being ground and all that. It
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  Speaker 1: charged people ten thousand dollars a seat. Now the Albanizi
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  Speaker 1: government is charging nothing for the Lebanes. Australians is evacuum
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  Speaker 1: from Lebanon, even though it had one for weeks to
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  Speaker 1: come home on commercial flights and even though there are
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  Speaker 1: still some commercial floats they could take. Can you explain
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  Speaker 1: my Elevenese Australians are getting free flights when Indian Australians
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  Speaker 1: in to pay ten thousand.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I think probably there's a bit of aerror here
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  Speaker 11: on maybe both sides. I mean, I remember that Indian
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  Speaker 11: repatoration issue well because at the time of supporting US
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  Speaker 11: bringing Australians home from India, when at least for a
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  Speaker 11: few weeks the government refused to even fly them home
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  Speaker 11: at all. My view is that we do have an
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  Speaker 11: obligation to Australians. Anywhere in the world you're a government
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  Speaker 11: should help you out. If there's a time of natural disaster,
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  Speaker 11: war or plague is afflicting where you are, there should
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: be some help and assistance provided. So charging ten thousand
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: dollars to an Australian take you home I think was excessive.
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: Charging nothing is probably too far down the other end
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: of the spectrum as well, and maybe some contributions should
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: be made if a person can make that contribution. Obviously
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: there probably needs to be circumstances of help and assistance
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: to any Australians who can't afford to make a payment.
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: So I just think this should be some common sense
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: applied here. But look, I think we overreact in the
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: pandemic and now the government just seems desperate to look
• 22:24
  Speaker 11: like they're doing something a little least for their own
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: domestic political.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Purposes, more pandering. I'm afraid if you can't help you,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: if you refuse to help yourself, I'm not quite sure
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: what the obligation of tax phase is to help you then,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know, with our money.
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: Or we help people in natural disasters. If the natural
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: disaster reflects you. In Australia, you get help from the government.
• 22:44
  Speaker 11: If you're overseas, I.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Think some help is merited to if you've been worn
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: for months to leave or weeks to leave and you didn't,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and if you could actually move somewhere else in Lebanon,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: or if you could take a commercial flight, or you
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: can cross the boardy on your own steam, there are
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: other options. I'm not quite sure why wear on the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: hook for it now, Matt four Corners. Last night the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: ABC Typical did a hit job on nuclear power. You
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: know the coalition's plans to bring it here, specifically on
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the plans to bring it here. Now you can judge
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the bias of this program by the so called experts
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that it talked to, who included, believe it or not,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull, who lows the Liberals for sacking him as
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister. Plus of course Tacoon activist Simon Holmes a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Court who is not a nuclear expert but did finance
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the Teal independence and is another renewables zelot here they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: are two thest X.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: Yes to me, how would you describe a policy to
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: build seven.
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: Nuclear plants in Australia.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: Recklessly stupid and dangerously stupid.
• 23:51
  Speaker 13: Meanwhile, demand is going up because nuclear cannot supply the
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: energy that we need in the timeframe we need it, right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 13: that's an absolutely critical point that time frame.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Your assessment of this ABC hit job on nuclear power
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: for Australia.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: Well it's a total face. Andrew, I don't watch the ABC.
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: I missed that program. I don't think I missed much
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: And I suppose the only thing we can be thankful
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: for is that the bias of the ABC is now
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: so transparent that I think most Australians, if not all
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: Australians watching that program understand where they're coming from. That
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: it probably won't change too many minds, because it doesn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: seem to be a mind changing exercise. As you say,
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: why would you get people like Malcolm, like Simon Holmes Court,
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: who are obviously wedded to a particular viewpoint to spread
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: these issues. And we all respect to Malcolm. He obviously
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: had some success in business. I just don't think communication
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: is his skill set, not political communication. I mean that
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: kind of language just turns people off. Just stick to
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: the facts, Malcolm. You don't need to over Eggitt like that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: And he failed as a Prime minister and I think
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: he's filing as a commentator in his post politics job too.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Don't forget he was the one that promised us a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: snowy two point zero renewal energy scheme and it said
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it would cost us just two billion dollars, is costing
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars and it's way behind and it may
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: never actually be used. I don't know. It looks like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a white elephant. Matt Canavan, thank you so much for
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: your time, Jeah. I was actually sent last night a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: whole list of nuclear experts, true nuclear experts in Australia
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: who were complaining that the ABC hadn't asked them to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: contribute when they were pre premier in their fields. I'll
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: make of that what you will after the break. A
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: leaked document from a dictator shows who they're scared will
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: be the next president of the United States and why
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to the US election. And a remarkable document that's just
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: been leaked that tells you which of the two two
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: candidates scares Iran most is Kamala Harris. Of course that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: a joke. Which are the leaders of the tyrannies now
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: joining forces in the war you see now against democracies
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Ukraine and Israel's Sun Taiwan. Which of them really would
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: be scared of Kamala Harris? I mean Iran Sayutola Company,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: China's Jijiping, Russias Vladimir Putin as if No, And now
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that is confirmed in a document prepared for around Supreme
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: leader the Zabin leaked but to the Daily Telegraph in London,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a document warning that Trump is the front runner in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the election next month, and it calls him a particular
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: threat because he could put quote maximum pressure on Iran
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to lucid it's control on the Middle East. Now, as
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you probably know, Iran has been arming and funding the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: terrorist groups that are now attacking Israel, including Hamasin, Gaza, Hesbula,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and Lebanon, the hooties in Yemen who just yesterday all
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: three launched missile attacks on Israel on the anniversary of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the October seven massacre, with some hitting the city of Haifa.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Joining me is Sean Spicer, the first White House spokesman
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a President Donald Trump. Sean Spice is great to see
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you again. Look, it's so strange, isn't it. The Democrats
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: keep claiming that Donald Trump cuddles up to dictators. But
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: here we've got a dictator who's scared that Trump will
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: be elected president next month. Should he be.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the world should be scared. I mean, look the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: funny part about this, and Democrats don't like to look
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: at the evidence. But during the four years of president
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's presidency, Andrew and you and I have
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: talked about this. Before the world was stable, the world
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: was stable. Ukraine didn't invade or annex territory for four years.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: They did it in a bipartisan fashion previous to him. Right,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Iran wasn't provocative the way they are now North Korea
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and China. It's amazing how the guy Joe Biden, who
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be the adult who was going to
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: restore all these relationships. All this happens under his watch.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: None of it happened under Donald Trump's watch. Maybe they
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: were feel fearful of him, maybe they were scared of him,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: maybe they thought he was nuts. I don't really care.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: The world was safer and more stable, and that's what matters.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But to your point, yeah, it's funny how the narrative
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: by the Democrats is he sucks up to him. But
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: when you find out what these dictators think behind closed doors,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: they're worried about him, they're scared of him. He puts
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: fear into them, and I like that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Well. I think the administration's editude to the policies towards
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Iran have been disastrously weak.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Of course, there's a flip side of this, though, right,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Andrew Right. They love to talk about what Donald Trump
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: thinks of them, but look at what they think of
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: this administration. They're willing to act with impunity. Right. They
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: don't look to the US to worry about recriminations or
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: retaliation or sanctions. They act with impunity. Like you haven't
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: seen Iran care about what its response would do to
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: upset the United States. They care about what Donald Trump
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: will do, but they act with impunity. And that's not
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: just them. I mean Putin looked at what Biden did
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: coming out of with Afghanistan and said, I'm going to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: go get what I can out of Ukraine. Now, it
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: was because of the weakness and the effecklessness of their
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: policies that they acted the way that they did.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Two. Switching back to the domestic politics, Donald Trump's wife, Milania,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: She's been virtually invisible in this election campaign, Sean. I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: mean she turned up to the Republican Convention for a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: couple of days, etc. But not much.
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: Really.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It's incredible, but she didn't give an interview a couple
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of days ago and actually said she supported abortion, which
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: is not exactly Donald Trump's message to conservatives.
• 30:05
  Speaker 14: Here she is, he knew my position and my beliefs
• 30:10
  Speaker 14: since the day we met, and I believe in individual freedom.
• 30:17
  Speaker 14: I want to decide what I wanted to do with
• 30:20
  Speaker 14: my body. I think I don't want government in my
• 30:27
  Speaker 14: personal business. I think it's very important.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Shud Spiser's handset play out.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You know, the initial reaction from a lot of people
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: was exactly what yours was, which is Gosh, this is
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: off message, isn't it. But you know, I've watched Donald
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and Malania Trump. They are partners. She gives amazing advice
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: to him, and I started to realize that we just
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: got played, Andrew. They knew exactly what they were doing.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: You don't think that she knew that the timing of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: this was going to be an issue when she put
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: it in her book and she did the promotion for
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: her book, that this issue, as sensitive as it was,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to cause a problem. And that's why if
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: you really think about it and think about how close
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: they are and how much they strategize together, I would
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: posit to you that this was intentional. This was him
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: allowing her to show side of it, to say, hey,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I've got people around me that believe in this. And
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: so this was a signal to a lot of women
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: out there where this is a major issue that hey,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: look there are women around Donald Trump that love him,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that think he's a great person, that want him to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: be president, but don't share all of his views and
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that's okay. It was almost as if it was a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: signal to a lot of women where abortion has become
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a big issue that the Harris campaign is messaging to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to say, you know, look, there are strong, confident women
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: around Donald Trump that don't share all of his views,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and they still support him, and they still love him.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It's okay to vote for him. Don't believe the Harris hype.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I totally by you or read. In fact, I would
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: even add that it helps him negate the scare campaign
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that you know that there be no abortions whatsoever in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the whole United States if it was elected.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Once again, we've all been played. They are so masterful
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: at communicating and marketing that we all initially, I think,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: had the same reaction like, wow, this is poor timing,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this isn't it When in fact, as as I said,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I believe this was entirely intentional, And if you think
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: about it from a practical standpoint, I don't share that view. Obviously,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm very pro life, but I think from a political standpoint,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: they knew exactly what they were doing.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's intriguing me with your analysis here is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: something that I think a lot of people will find.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it's new to them. You said they're very
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: close a you know, the thought is develop but that
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: maybe they aren't that she's shunning him. She's not involved
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: in his campaign. She keeps herself way out of that
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that it isn't close. But you have saying something very different.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, if there is one person in the world whose
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: opinion I think matters most to him, it's missus Trump.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: He values her opinion. She has a brilliant strategic mind
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and sense of politics. She's a ver vercificus reader of politics.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you, if there's one person you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: don't want to get on the wrong side of, it's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Malania Trump. She's her opinion is valued and taken very
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: seriously by the former president, and she would never do
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: anything to undermine him. That's why I'm saying, I believe
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: that this was extremely intentional and well played. I mean,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: they knew exactly what they were doing. But I have
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: seen them up close. I have had dinner with them,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I have been you know, in briefings with them. He
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: looks to her to get as a very strong sense
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of politics and of him and of his image and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: of his brand. She really protects it. And even if
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: if you read that book, she talks about how much
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: she loves him, so don't read her lack of presence
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: at debates and rallies as her not being one hundred
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: percent supportive of him and being an unbelievably important advisor
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in what he says and does.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Shut Spicer, always fascinating to talk to you. Thank you
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: so much indeed for your.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Time, as always Angelsias.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Soon after the break, supposedly impartial ABC goes hard against Israel.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: It is now out of control, plus millions of your
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: money wasted on crazy academic grounds, but the Education Minster
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: can't or won't do a thing about it. The ABC's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: new chairman keeps saying he wants to crack down on
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: bias to the publicly funded National broadcast SERN correct, but
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the ABC staff keeps defying him. You take the ABC's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: poor Barry. Last night, Varie's media watch shows supposed to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: be about bad journalism, instead his long hijackedor to simply
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: attack opinions he doesn't like to servative ones, Sky News ones,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and last night he thought it terrible that Murdoch media
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: journalists were upset that ain't Israel protests here were waving
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the flags of a banned terrorist group Hezbelah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: Meanwhile, as all out war between Israel and around edge
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: closer and there was talk of bombing Iranian oil facilities.
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: Back home, the biggest fuss was about something much more trivial,
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: with a handful of protesters flying Hezbela flags and carrying
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: pictures of Nazauela, sparking outrage front page headlines in the
• 35:41
  Speaker 15: News Corp tabloids on Tuesday.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Well, actually, people in Australia supporting a terrorist group isn't
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: really trivial, not to us, not in our context, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: supporting Hezbollah and other terrorist groups so brazenly like that,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: no shame, no fear. That's not a trivial matter at all. Now,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: last night I gave another example of a senior ABC
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: reporter using this summer dodgy claim by a terrorist defender
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to accuse Israel of killing not forty thousand Palaesins, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: four times that many complete bollocks. But here is another
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: example of this bar is truely shocking. Now, Jan Fran
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: stars in a new ABC show called Question. Everything's just
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Opened just started being shown. Now, it's true that she's
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: employed through a production companies, not exactly an ABC stuff
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: for itself. We'll say they're all s don't apply to me.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But the ABC has helped give her a public platform,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and this is what she says.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Israel, the country who soldiers boast and post about
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: committing like really looks like war crimes. Israel, the country
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: that you and investigator Chris Sadoti says has one of
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: the most criminal armies in the world, The country accused
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: by surgeon after surgeon after surgeon of sniping Toddler's dead.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Israel's supposed criminal army is sniping Toddler's dead. That structs
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: me as a lie. The only people I have seen
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: sniping civilians dead and even filming themselves doing it. They
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: were so proud were Hamas Terris on October seven. The
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: footage is there for everyone to see. Joining me is
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the panel. Will Kingston hosts of Fire at Will, a
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: podcast from The Spectator on politics and culture Ascarnew's hosts
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Danika Di Georgio of Denika and James every Sunday at
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: eight pm. Will Kingston what the war against Israel, I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: think has shown is that Australia has a deep cultural corruption.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Now you see it in our streets, you see it
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: in our ABC, you see it in our universities. It's serious.
• 38:00
  Speaker 16: Well, the cultural corruption isn't limited to Australia, Andrew. It
• 38:04
  Speaker 16: is across the anglosphere and we have to ask ourselves
• 38:08
  Speaker 16: why the reality is the conversation around this conflict now
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: is not really about the conflict. The conflict is just
• 38:15
  Speaker 16: a blank canvas upon which people project their thoughts about
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: all of the cultural trends of our day and age,
• 38:22
  Speaker 16: identity politics, the oppressor, oppressed paradigm, any number of these
• 38:28
  Speaker 16: different culture wars issues. And you know why that blank
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: canvas is there. It is because to your point where
• 38:36
  Speaker 16: we started, the media are not doing their job. They've
• 38:39
  Speaker 16: lost the concept of objective reporting. You do not hear
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: that Israel have done more to protect civilians than any
• 38:45
  Speaker 16: military in modern history. You have not heard that Israel
• 38:49
  Speaker 16: have been copying it on seven fronts from Iran for
• 38:52
  Speaker 16: the last twelve months, which has forced their hand over
• 38:55
  Speaker 16: the last month. Unfortunately, we are having this cultural wars
• 38:58
  Speaker 16: debate about a very serious conflict because the media has
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: forgotten how to do objective journalism. And unfortunately, until how
• 39:04
  Speaker 16: they do that again, we're going to keep having all
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: this nonsense as opposed to clearing about the facts.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Denika, I'm not even asking for objectivity, to be honest,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I'm asking for simply a deep appreciation of the roots
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of our culture that have brought us this piece and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: this wealth, and what until now, some sort of civility
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: in our debates. I mean, this is all what's at stake.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You look at the streets, you look at the protests
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: as they are the threat. They are the threat to it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 17: Absolutely, Andrew, this is the threat. This is what is
• 39:37
  Speaker 17: deeply dividing our nation. And the fractures really began if
• 39:42
  Speaker 17: you look back to October ninth last year on the
• 39:45
  Speaker 17: steps of the Sydney Opera House. That's when the discourse began.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: And it has crept up.
• 39:50
  Speaker 17: It's crept up since then, and now it has culminated
• 39:53
  Speaker 17: in last weekend when the flags of a listed terrorist organization,
• 39:58
  Speaker 17: a barbaric and murderous terror organization, are being so openly
• 40:02
  Speaker 17: and freely flown in the streets in Sydney and Melbourne.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Yet the media bias is sickening and we've.
• 40:09
  Speaker 17: Got a situation where as you just show there where
• 40:13
  Speaker 17: media watch Paul Barry as saying, well, it was nothing
• 40:16
  Speaker 17: more than trivial. I was offended by that. I'm sure
• 40:19
  Speaker 17: many of our viewers were offended by that. I don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 17: want to see flags of a terrorist organization being flown
• 40:25
  Speaker 17: in the streets. It's disgusting and it's sickening. But the
• 40:28
  Speaker 17: impartiality has been lost in this complete debate. The focus
• 40:33
  Speaker 17: no longer is on Hummus, on the wall that was
• 40:35
  Speaker 17: started by Hamas. It has gone into a completely different discourse.
• 40:39
  Speaker 17: And I do believe the media has a lot to
• 40:41
  Speaker 17: do with it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do think that, But I also think we
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: need to look at our universities. We need to look
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: at what's thought at schools, We need to look at
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: an immigration intake. We need a fundamental revisiting of so
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: much of what's produce. See this well, I hear people
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: say we need to now start banning these protests, right,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: start banning protests. Wait a minute, the free speech and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: protests are a fundamental sign of a free society. What
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  Speaker 1: I think they're really saying is we need to hide
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  Speaker 1: suppress by force, stop us confronting the intellectual rot that's
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  Speaker 1: out there that we've created by all these other things
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  Speaker 1: that I mentioned, education, immigration, all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: To decline in nationalism, the tearing down of a national symbols.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to see that result we want to
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  Speaker 1: shut people down. That's what's going on.
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  Speaker 16: I think, yeah, I agree with that, and I think
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  Speaker 16: the left obviously has driven an agenda in our institutions
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  Speaker 16: over the last twenty or thirty years. But the fact
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  Speaker 16: remains the right hasn't been strong enough to fight against it.
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  Speaker 16: And if you look at the center right parties in Australia,
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  Speaker 16: they don't understand really what classical liberalism means anymore. I
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  Speaker 16: haven't heard a coach and argument for free speech from
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  Speaker 16: a liberal politician in god knows how long. The fact is,
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  Speaker 16: if you want to actually start turning around the institutions,
• 42:07
  Speaker 16: we need to have political leadership on the right that
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  Speaker 16: understands the importance of freedom, that understands the importance of
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  Speaker 16: standing up for our culture. And unfortunately there aren't many
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  Speaker 16: leaders like that who are willing to do so.
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  Speaker 1: They can't argue, so they suppress grants. Talking about intellectual corruption, Danika,
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  Speaker 1: here's another sign right grants are order with Istralian Research Accouncil.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I used to go through this years ago and it
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  Speaker 1: was just a joke. This time they include nearly The
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: latest rounds of grants from the Research include nearly half
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  Speaker 1: a million dollars for academics to study exploring games and
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  Speaker 1: play based activities to engage citizens instead of the agenda
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  Speaker 1: for climate adaption, adaptation and policy. There's always climate ad
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  Speaker 1: that in. You get your money. There's another half a
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  Speaker 1: million to identify the causes of gender bass in the
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  Speaker 1: staged English language translations of ancient Greek tragedy and to
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  Speaker 1: redress this problem redress something written more than two thousand
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and nearly four million dollars to identify these
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  Speaker 1: so called missing link in global movements of multispecies justices.
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  Speaker 1: Using innovative musical approaches to communicate the urgency of climate
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  Speaker 1: change resour as a moneymaker when you're playing for grants.
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  Speaker 1: What does all this nonsense tell you?
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  Speaker 17: Well, I think it tells you everything you need to
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  Speaker 17: know about the state of universities in this country. Andrew,
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  Speaker 17: by using this so called research, which is really just
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  Speaker 17: self serving, it is just to appease the lefty academia
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  Speaker 17: to make it look like our academic system is really
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  Speaker 17: functioning really well. Instead, I mean, can someone please explain
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  Speaker 17: to me what this innovative musical approaches to climate change is?
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  Speaker 17: Andrew is some sort of quasi Broadway musical adaptation of
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  Speaker 17: climate change.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, please, how.
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  Speaker 17: Is coming to secure to you coming to a theater
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  Speaker 17: new you selling tickets soon? I mean, how is this
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  Speaker 17: going to advance our country? How is it going to
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  Speaker 17: make this country more prosperous? And you know we're just
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  Speaker 17: I just want more point we're talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 17: climate wars. Just then, well, what are they teaching the
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  Speaker 17: students in these universities when this is what the academia
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  Speaker 17: is studying.
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  Speaker 1: Please precisely my point a Nikki to Georgio and Wilkinston,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: thank you both for your time after the breakout. China
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  Speaker 1: can use even your vacuum cleaner to spy on you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You know, since this blew up all those booby trapped
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  Speaker 1: pages to kill Hezbela operatives, everyone's got jumpy even about
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you know, can your electric car spain you? The US
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  Speaker 1: Administration's warned about that. But what if you're given your
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  Speaker 1: robot vacuum cleaner can be hacked to spy on you.
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  Speaker 1: Dennis g He's, a security researcher, found a way to
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  Speaker 1: take control of a long list of robot vacuum cleaners
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  Speaker 1: made by the Chinese company Ekovax. Proved it for the
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  Speaker 1: ABC by spying on a volunteer through the camera on
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  Speaker 1: the machine. You could even talk to its target. That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is Dennis Giezer. Dennis, my goodness, you've made
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  Speaker 1: may look twice at my robot vacuum cleaners. It is
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this ability to spy from a vacuum cleaner a bug
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  Speaker 1: or a feature.
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  Speaker 12: So thank you for having me. You would be surprised,
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  Speaker 12: But it's actually a feature in a way. So a
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  Speaker 12: lot of companies kind offer better a way to kind
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  Speaker 12: of watch your pats remotely, and they also add microphones
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: as a corenians feature. So obviously only you as an
• 45:46
  Speaker 12: owner are supposed to can access that, but you know
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  Speaker 12: it's it's a feature.
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  Speaker 1: Sadly, well, I hope China doesn't start employing you to
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  Speaker 1: turn turn this into a real asset. But what does
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: it tell you that, yeah, you can turn even a
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  Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner to spy on people? What does it tell
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  Speaker 1: you about all the other bits of equipment in your house,
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  Speaker 1: in my house and everyone's houses.
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  Speaker 12: So I do also a lot of research with other devices,
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  Speaker 12: and generally the security for robots is not that great.
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  Speaker 12: But it's very similar to other devices. So I think
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  Speaker 12: everything in your home might have like some kind of pulability.
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  Speaker 12: But usually I wouldn't be too worried about like normal
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  Speaker 12: hackers in the way, but I would be primarily more
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: worried about, you know, nation state actors, because if you
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: have cameras and microphones in someone's home, then you know
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  Speaker 12: you might have an interest to kind of naturally access that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 12: And I'm not talking necessarily about you know, states in Asia,
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  Speaker 12: but it might be also like everywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Sure is I mean, like I actually you know it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: just a bagary feature. I mean do you think do
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  Speaker 1: you think governments or even you know, big corporations would
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  Speaker 1: be looking at this to do anything nefarious, anything against
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: you will? Is it something intended down the track?
• 47:08
  Speaker 12: So I don't think it's necessarily intended by the vendors themselves,
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: but I mean I know for a fact that you know,
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  Speaker 12: very well funded intelligence agencies are properly interested in that
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: kind of features. And if you think about that, So
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: for me, I do it kind of like as a
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  Speaker 12: hobby right in my free time with my private money.
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: So if I can find these bugs, then what happens
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  Speaker 12: to like an organization which has like hundreds of employees
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  Speaker 12: with lots of funding. What kind of things can they find?
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  Speaker 12: And so this is like one of the primary things
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  Speaker 12: kind of orways me a little bit, Well, we'll tell us.
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  Speaker 1: You did it for even a vacuum planer, Rabit vacuum planing.
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  Speaker 1: What other machines could you do it to?
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: So, I mean I do vacuum cleaners for like seven
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: years now. So I basically hacked all the companies or hacked,
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: I mean analyzed the security of the companies. And you
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  Speaker 12: would be surprising men. It doesn't It doesn't necessarily matter,
• 48:04
  Speaker 12: Like the size of the company doesn't necessarily matter. Like
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  Speaker 12: where way from LG for example a couple of years
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  Speaker 12: ago that exactly the same issue, like based from South Korea.
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  Speaker 12: And I had also like things like ap cameras, pet feedures.
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: It was looking into cars. You know, we had the
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: topic before. Basically any kind of smart devices which is
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: around me, and I'm going to do that because I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: kind of curious and I want to use the device myself.
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: So I'm not you know, contract tech like technical things,
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: but I kind of want to use them in a
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: privacy awarewall.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Then excuse that you've certainly worken me up, Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your time. That's it for me. Now coming up
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  Speaker 1: Sharry Maxon live from Israel. Do watch