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• Deion: Peace and blessings family, welcome back to the volume shift where we shift the frequency so understanding actually lands. Jhalil: Today conversation might make some people uncomfortable 'cause we talking about something that quietly destroys families, friendships, businesses and entire communities. Deion: Jealousy. Jhalil: And he and Deion: People use those words interchangeably, but are are they really the same thing? Jhalil: Can you be jealous without being a hater? Deion: Can someone hate you without even knowing you? Jhalil: Today we bring it down the difference and more importantly, how we overcome it. Deion: I'm bucked the the doctor without the doctorate. Jhalil: John Lil, urban activist slash black division. Deion: What up Dove? How you living, how you feeling? Jhalil: ⁓ man, I'm great, bro. Getting ready for this graduation tomorrow, man. ⁓ right. Deion: Yeah. Congratulations you. Jhalil: Appreciate you, man. I done became a a pesticide applicator, a confined space operator, a wastewater tester, a chas wobber obtained like bro, I'll start snapping, bro. You know me, man. I I geeked out a little bit with this last program, man, but I think I'ma chill after this, cause this probably be like number 12 or 13, like different certs that I got. Deion: And Jhalil: You know, I like I like to build it up and then use them accordingly. You feel me? We changing that narrative that like, you know, black men not not educated, bro. Deion: Right, right. Mm-hmm. Jhalil: So real man, that's what I'm on, man. How you feeling? How you living? Deion: ⁓ man, I'm feeling good. You know what I'm saying? ⁓ I'm living okay. You feel me? I can always be living better. You know what I'm saying? But you know, I'm working towards that. You know what I'm saying? So you know. Feeling good, man. Feeling good. ⁓ Living blessedly, like. Well, you know, I I I take everything. With with my actions, my decisions, you know what I'm saying? Everything like that, like that makes my life. So if I want something different, I gotta change that thinking, change that you get what I'm saying? So I know a lot of people like freak out about things that randomly happen, but it's like it ain't really randomly happening for real. Like you contributing to it with your thoughts and everything like that, you feel me? So Today I wanted to get into ⁓ you know jealousy, like jealousy versus like hating and shit. You know what I mean? And the difference. The differences, you know what I'm saying? Like I I don't know if people know the difference. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: You know what I'm saying? Like Jhalil: Wow. Deion: But I started off, right? Like you think, matter of fact, ⁓ with your definition first, let me see. Jhalil: Man, my definition of jealousy is like I don't know. It's like it's kinda wantin' wantin' something that somebody else got, basically. In a nutshell anyway, like. Deion: Right, right. Yeah. And you might feel like you can't get it or something like that or comparison is like in your way, you know what I'm saying? Like and it to me is really not a bad thing if you really look at it in this in this definition, you know what I'm saying? 'Cause it's like it's like a light bulb going off in your head when you seeing something. That you also want. You know what I mean? Like and if you look at it like that, then you like you start going for what you want. You feel what I'm saying? And so then it's not a bad thing, you feel what I'm saying? And so like what you think hating is and shit. Jhalil: Yeah. ⁓ man, hating is just like well my definition is like I don't know. I th I think it's like more of a when somebody see you doing something and they just they just don't like it because it's you. You feel me? It might not even be something that they wanna pursue, something that they're interested in. It just might be something that like they just not feeling it because it's you. Like that's that's how I see hating, bro. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: It's like more of a envy type thing, like it's something you want from a per like, I don't know, like well envy is like more of a you see somebody doing something and you want it for yourself type job. But hating is just like you just shooting it down from the rip, bro. And a lot of the hating come from like I think from people just not liking the person or not liking what they get into. But I could be wrong. I don't know. That's just my personal definition. That's how I view it. Deion: I mean I do Jhalil: I just can't see. Deion: Well, I'm so but I thought Jhalil: ⁓ no, I just I'm just saying, like, I just can't see, like, I don't know, bro. I can't see me just hatin' because like it just feel crazy, bro, to just be hating on somebody, like, you feel me? Like, all right. Even with the jealousy, it's like you might look at a millionaire or something. You feel me? It could be a day trader or whatever, and they they popping it, like, I don't know. I just I can't see me like, damn man, why I don't got Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: You know me, bro. I'm get up and do it, boy. Like if it's something I wanna do, I'ma find a way to do it. You feel me? But at the same time, though, it's nature. Like jealousy is a a human nature. Like, that's something that you probably at some point you probably can't avoid it every single time. Feel me? Like, that shit naturally gonna occur. Like even with the race shit, like You could just be naturally jealous that like damn bro, like for this group of people it's is always this, but for our group of people it's never that. And that's that's a form of jealousy. I ain't gonna lie, like ev although it is like shit that was put in our way to, you know, slow us up. But still, bro. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Still a way to overcome that shit. What do Deion: I say hating like Jhalil: Just go me. Deion: think like hating is like going above and beyond and putting action to it. You get what I'm saying? Like and not just violence, but like verbally or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like putting people down, criticizing, like like going to the extremes, you get what I'm saying. And I don't think it got nothing to do with the outer person. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: It's more like about the internal and shit. You feel what I'm saying? Cause like to hate somebody that you don't even know, that's just bizarre. Like, you get what I'm saying? It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? That you would hate somebody like that you don't know. You don't know nothing about them. Like to have enough animosity to hate, like I I assume. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Like racist people are dumb as shit. You get what I'm saying? Like and and all it does is just show you like they're internal. Like you fucked up inside when you just dislike a person. Like if we haven't a conversation right and I'm like, Why you don't like me and and you can't? I don't know, I just don't fucking like you. Like it's like Jhalil: Thanks. Yeah, you don't even know why. Like that's crazy. Deion: That's what hating is, bro. Like you feel me? Like if you tell a joan that you don't like her shoes, and she like, damn, why you don't like them, Jones? And you just like, I don't know. Just cut like that's hating. Like, you don't have no re like that's that's hating. You get what I'm saying? Like, now to me, jealousy is like, damn, like You always got on some fly shoes, like you feel me? Like that's something like you want them jaws or you want the attention from what she get from being in them shoes. ⁓ like you get what I'm saying? Like, but jealousy is like that's a easy fix, right? Cause like you could just get your own shit. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: But hating is like some deep down you need help. Like Jhalil: Yeah, that's like a traumatic john, you feel me? Like that's some traumatic shit 'cause it's like with the jealousy, bro, it's like at a certain age or at a certain like I don't know, at the wild bro, when you get the life and life really start life and bro, and you go through shit and grow through shit, it's like you understand what it take to get certain things, bro. You understand what it take to maintain those things and everything. So it's like At a certain stage in life, it's like, bro, like look at our shit, bro. Like, our wills might be fucked up. A motherfucker driving by and and a Maybach. But at the same time, we know, bro, to even service that Maybach, bro, that shit gonna cost some bread. Just to get brakes changed, just to get a oil change, just to get it serviced, whatever. That shit gonna cost some bread. So we know what the value of the upkeep is. And we know that like if you gonna drive that vehicle, bro, you really gotta be in a position where you can upkeep that vehicle or those things. So it's like that hate and shit go out the window. It's like more of a congratulations at this point. Cause it's like, bro, you know, going through certain things and growing through shit, bro, it's like We done stepped our game all the way up from what we was. So it's like now it's a deeper understanding on shit. So it's like it's kinda hard for me to just be hating, like, I don't know, like Deion: Right. So you don't feel like you hate you hated at all in your life, like Jhalil: On some real shit to be fully transparent, bro. Like, I don't know, dog. I think that shit just embedded in certain people. Like, I'm not one of them people. Like, now the jealousy thing, like, it probably was points in life where I was like, damn, like, I do want that. But it's like, you know, I'm like, man, if I want that shit, I'ma just find a way to get it, bro. It ain't no point of being jealous. It's like. Deion: No. Right. Jhalil: 'Cause at the end of the day, bro, I don't know, I feel as though like before getting jealous or it if if a nigga do get that jealous feeling, bro, why not ask? You feel me? Why not ask how the person got this or like, yo, what you what you do to obtain that, you know, or w how you put yourself in a position to get those things or whatever. That's easier than being jealous and and hating. 'Cause like all that other shit, it take a toll on you as the person. 'Cause now you start comparing. You feel me? Deion: Yeah, I I think like when you go that route then then that's when the jealousy turns to hating because now there's an action to it like you really like I don't want you to ha if I can't have it I don't want nobody else to have it. So now you are you were savage for Jhalil: Yeah, yeah. Deion: For that type of thing, you know what mean? Like, instead of like you saying, I think you saying like you ain't never had to go through no hate because you stopped that jealousy when you figured out like I could just get the things that, you know, I'm feeling this type of way about not having. You feel what I'm saying? And and that's a difference. Like, you feel what I'm saying? So I think when people go beyond like wanting what people got and then they really like start being like, I don't want you to have it. So I'ma scrutinize it. I'ma like do whatever it takes for you not to have it. Even at the end, where they still not gonna have it, they just have you on got it. Like and internally like that that do something to their and that tell me like They definitely got that pain body inside. And that's the type of pain they they asked. You get what I'm saying? Like I hate my shit, so I wanna hate your shit. Like feel what I'm saying? I hate my life, so I wanna hate everybody else, John too. Like Jhalil: Yeah, and that's a bad jump, bro. That shit knocking your stamina down every time, bruh. Like real shit, dog. And it's like, if you ever notice, bro, like all right, you know we do business, bro. So s like I got a couple clients that's like millionaires, bro. You feel me? Like really millionaires, bro, like virologists and and CEOs. real estate like agents that's like million dollars and up, like and a couple millions. You feel me? So I also realize that like the people that I deal with and that I'm around and and came into contact with those resources, bro, they some of the nicest people. They'll give you the game. You feel me? Cause it's like they they want somebody to ask. Like they spend most of their time learning and and actually doing the thing. And you know, the people around you They get jealous. They start hating and shit. So people don't really ask those questions. So when there's people like us and we come around and or I come around, I'd be like, yo man, how you like how you become like a CEO working for Fox Chase, like doing like studying viruses and da da da da da da. And then bro, they give you the whole spell. Like you feel me? Hey, if you want to get in this feel, I got this connection. I can link you with this person. So all it takes is like you reaching out. And I ain't saying everybody gonna be like that, bro, because you know some some people with the bread, they got a bad name. Like, you know, some people will shit on you. Some people will try to pop it on you. But at the same time, bro, most of the people is not like that. ⁓ accomplishment you understand is your job to give back to. Or you can lose all that shit. And people don't you know, some people don't look at it like that, bro. But the people who really winning in life, bro, with good hearts and and really winning, they dying to get that shit back, bro. They might be thinking like, damn, how can I give back? And then it'd be one of y'all, one of us, yo, bro, how I get in that field? Or can you connect me with somebody in that field? Or give me the information for me to even start in that field? And that's the accomplishment for the day. You feel me? And that's your accomplishment. That that Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Like eliminates all the hate and all the jealousy right then and there, bro, cause we thinking like, damn, they got bread, they probably ain't even gonna try tell me. They ain't even gonna try to da da da da. But that's the pain body shit, bro. Deion: You know, I think like it was it was a jealous, like hating person that really created like that whole mantra that we follow in Philia like Jhalil: That's really that, dawg. Deion: Complimenting each other, and you know what I mean? Like, like I get being Joe. Like people mix it up and shit. Joe is like, like you overly for no reason. Like you just stream, like you ain't even gotta do all that. Like, you feel me? Like, you jumping over cars to go see, like, that's that's too much. You feel me? And Jhalil: Yeah, for no reason. Yeah, we're right. Deion: And then if you do all of that and then you don't even say nothing once you get to the person or to the thing, ⁓ you Joey shit, bro. Like you j you jumped over a car to go over there and you ain't say nothing. ⁓ you chipping, like you get what I'm saying? So for me it's like that jealousy shit is like it had to create that type of thing. Like, yo, don't be like a it's like a parent, like Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: seeing you happy with an with other people. And she like, don't fucking go over there and be happy with them over there. You feel me? Like, cause she wanna, she wants the attention, like mom wants the the everything on her, right? Or dad might want everything on him. Like so they like they don't want you to go down the street and experience being with another family because it might disturb the inside. You know what I mean? In house. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, and now you're in a neighborhood and you on that, like. Jhalil: It's crazy, bro. Deion: Like we living like this with roaches and shit. Like, I want y'all to have fucking roaches too. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, how the fuck you gonna go get an exterminator call his and hers, you know what I mean? Then get the pester. How you gonna do that? And then we still stuck with with roaches and shit. You know what I mean? Like, so now you try to hide it and all that. It's like, Jhalil: Yeah. ⁓ Well that Deion: All this stuff become in you, you feel me? And then you grow up with that, and then you become a adult, bro. And you like you still on it, but you don't even notice that it to be like jealousy or hate. You just think like this how you always been. You get what I'm saying? Like, you don't even dig that it stems from somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, straight like that. Jhalil: Mm. Deion: Like you hold there to a lot of that shit. 'Cause like I said, if it turned from jealousy to hate, then you ready to kill for it and all of that. You know what I mean? Like my life fucked up, like like like Bishop said and juice and shit. Like I ain't shit, so when I'm ready for you, you know what I mean? I'ma I'ma just kill you. You feel me? And people beginning to really we've Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's fucked up. Deion: We really beginning to look at that shit like, yo, like why why I'ma be competitive with you when I can collab with you? You know I'm saying? And and like instead of being jealous, shit. Make other people jealous of the connections. But not the jealous that are turned into hate, but the jealous that'll make them one get other connections too. You feel me? And then there's a bunch of connections in the now, you know what I mean? Cause one thing about it, man, you might get some compla ⁓ com what you call that shit. Jhalil: Exactly. ⁓ Mm-hmm. Egg. Deion: publicity about like competition and going at each other and shit, but like it's it's it's more l long lasting and legendary when you collab and you get more value from it. You get what I'm saying? Like now you can get the combination too, cause like when Jadakiss and and Beans was going at it, that was a crazy competition draw. But then to see them come together and collab. Jhalil: Come on, bro. That's the greatest draw ever. Like, bro, two of our favorite rap like you know niggas that's like some of the best rappers, top terror with the bars, bro, and always been honorable men. You feel me? So it's like that shit is definitely worth the collaboration, bro. And before niggas niggas before they start hating and all that shit, bro, you you gotta at least try to collab first or Deion: You get what I'm saying? Jhalil: Try to see how you can get in that lane or learn first, bro. Now if a motherfucker just shut you out, try to play you and all that. Now I can see where the hating would come in at for a motherfucker. Like, but it's like still, bro, don't don't let that defer you, because that's just one person. Feel me? All people not like that, dog. Like, we gotta start church. Deion: Yeah. That's just like that's just like a dislike. Like I I dislike you and you got a reason why because they try to play you or whatever you feel. You get what I'm saying? Like now the the rapper, if he not trying to put you on just because he don't want you to get a shine or like he think you gonna surpass him or that's hating. Like you hating, bro. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's that's definitely here. Deion: You get what I'm saying? Like you hating like a motherfucker and there's no is no need for it. Because if we walk in a if we if we walk in a room together, you feel me? Buck and Jazz, you gonna have yours, I'm gonna have mine's, bro. Jhalil: And use that as until ⁓ go ahead, go ahead, my bad. Deion: And and it and it's better 'cause we came in together. By yourself you'd have just had yours. By myself I oughta just have you get what I'm saying? But together walking in that room like we Jhalil: Yeah, it works that. Deion: We got the room. Yeah, whether it's split or not, like we got the room. Jhalil: Say. ⁓ you with the dove. Deion: You won't. Nir Costello: My bad, I'm more tardy. I've been trying to find light, you know, I'm on a I'm on a darker hill. Jhalil: Mm. Deion: Okay. Were you out there or planning what? Jhalil: It was all good. Nir Costello: Huh? Jhalil: Ooh. ⁓ Deion: I said, where you at on planet what? Nir Costello: Man, I ain't gonna lie, I'm at the shot works. I'm on all I'm on all dad duty, Abby duty, you hear me? Deion: Yeah, absolutely. Jhalil: Hey man, that's the best duty, bro. Fuck it. Nir Costello: Been like a crazy weird day, kinda. So there's a lot of like left turns that I had to take today that I wasn't really supposed to. Deion: For sure. Introduce yourself, Yerby. Nir Costello: I'm but he is near Costello, you know. ⁓ Mr. Unseen Potential, Mr. Took Scar to be stamped. Deion: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. ⁓ it's not well you Nir Costello: You give me Deion: Yeah, I can see. Nir Costello: Alright, I think I got it together. I ain't the best at this, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't the best at this. Jhalil: No, it's cool, bro. We we all yeah bro we all had our trials and tribulations with this shit, man. It's cool. It's in the nature of it. Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: Yeah. And I'm not even gonna lie to y'all, like I'm really I'm real big on like being, you know, on point and everything like that. Like I'm r I'm real big on that. That's why I was asking, ⁓ was it like an in studio joint or something like that? 'Cause I could really be, you know. I ain't never do an interview like this, believe it or not. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Cool, man. Nir Costello: I feel like it don't be the like the energy, like I like the I like to get the atmosphere of the energy, but that's a good job. I I wanted to make sure that, you know, I was able to get on get on the platform and I appreciate y'all appreciate y'all giving me the opportunity, you know. Jhalil: Bro, appreciate you being here with us. You feel me, man? Tell us a little bit more about what you do, man, so that people can know. Deion: ⁓ dress of Larry Girl. Nir Costello: Right now I'm a artist. ⁓ I just dropped the album called Unseen Potential and ⁓ I'm a ⁓ I'm a man, like I'm a man. I'm a Muslim first, father second, man third, you know. So my whole thing is I stand on you know, I stand on how I f I I stand on my belief system, I stand on what I ⁓ what I believe in and I strive not to get stuck in my feelings. about anything. You get what I'm saying? Jhalil: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Nir Costello: ⁓ I'm a artist. ⁓ I get back to my community. I'm always at I'm always at C J C that's in West Philly, giving back to the youth. That's that's up the youth studies that's up the ⁓ the youth study center or whatever or C J C however they say it. ⁓ I'm putting a curriculum down there so I can I can have my own little ⁓ like my own little program. You dig what I'm saying? Jhalil: It's a great job, bro. Right, man. Nir Costello: I'm really just trying to I'm really just trying to give back. 'Cause I feel like as people we don't really give back enough. Everybody always talking about how the young boy's wild, but people don't really put their foot down and say, How can we make a change on young bulls being wild? You feel me? Deion: Yeah Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Nir Costello: And I believe I was one of those dunk boards I was one of those lost, misguided youths that was a little wild. You dig me? Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Uh-huh. Nir Costello: So ⁓ yeah, like I I'm very I'm very creative. You know, I'm very I'm the I'm the head I'm the head of all my creative, I'm independent, I'm a person that ⁓ you know, just making sure all my family good. Trying to get trying to break these generational recruits with my son, that I fell into, that my father fell into that, my uncles fell into that, my cousins fell into. So that's that's that's that's really how I would describe Nir Costello and Munir. Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: a a human being, a man, a Muslim, a father, you know? Deion: And and the artists though, right? Nir Costello: Y'all can hear me? You say what? Deion: Can you hear me? I say in the artist though, right? Nir Costello: Y you say as a artist though? Jhalil: Yeah, Deion: You can't hear me? Nir Costello: hear you now. You said as a artist though. Deion: No, I was just adding that to your john. Jhalil: Yeah. Nir Costello: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. As a definitely as a artist. Like even the song I got with Oskino. I I believe like you like y'all listen Oskino's music. Even the joint he just put out, this and Jay Z. J Oskino is a rapper, but Oskino is person that really don't he don't really care about rap no more. Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: You look at the food, really welcome. Deion: But no, we was just talking about ⁓ the difference between jealousy and hating. What you think jealousy is? Nir Costello: ⁓ А тилоси Yeah, I could go by the angle. I could go Islamic a little bit. Let's talk about think ⁓ jealousy in my opinion is where you want what a man has. That's what jealousy is to me. When you want when you want what a man has but you don't want him to have it. Envy is where you cool with what you see what a man has. If you competitive against it, like you want that as well, but you don't want that to be taken from him. That's what I feel like the difference between jealousy and envy. Deion: No, but what about hating and shit? I was saying jealousy or hating. Nir Costello: ⁓ you said hating. I thought you said envy. ⁓ With hating I feel like Deion: Mm-hmm. Nir Costello: But like everybody got a little heat in ⁓ in my opinion. But like ⁓ my belief system when they kinda hating it's just about how how you handle it, like how you everybody hates on something. It's just about acting on what you're hating on, you dig me? That's the cat. Deion: You can hear him. Nir Costello: Yeah. ⁓ can I get a ⁓ a mango sweetest sis? A large, can you put the gummy beard in the middle though? Like the sweetest is on top, gummy beard then in your name. ⁓ yeah, hello? Deion: Yeah. Yeah, really. Jhalil: Yeah. Nir Costello: Did you hear my answer? Jhalil: Yeah, we heard you. Nir Costello: I think it's about like I think that's what it's really I think that's what it's really about in regards to that. I think it's more along the lines of like Deion: You're a lot. What's not Nir Costello: acting on that. 'Cause a lot of people gonna hate. It's a lot of people that you see. A lot of people like yo, like I you got a platform where you see certain people doing moves and you like, man, I'm happy for ⁓ but I know I probably could have did that better. It's a form of hate. You're a human being. I feel like that comes with being human beings. That's in every scripture that we have, it was some type of hating going on, you dig me? But it's about Deion: I mean like that's more jealousy to me, you get what I'm saying? But like when you turn it into like like hating is like the action behind it too, like if I can't have it then you nobody can have it type time. You get what I'm saying? Like and I'll do I'll I'll do anything for you not to have it, even if I don't even have it myself at the end. Jhalil: Mm. Yeah. Throwing salt in it and all that. Nir Costello: Say it again? Yeah. Jhalil: Or won it. Deion: Jealousy is like, like, ⁓ I see Nair taking off and I'm an artist too, and I'm like, like that, I want that. You know what I mean? That's what jealousy is like. Nir Costello: You think jealousy is Deion: Uh-huh. The biggest low man. Jhalil: Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie though. But I I ain't I think man just most of that shit, bro, most of that shit'd be like handled by just like, you know, reaching out, bro. And then if it's like like how we was just talking about like hating is, you know, if a nigga try to keep you out of it and like they just close the doors on you. But still like it's is even some hope in that, bro, cause if somebody tryna like keep you out of a situation and you extend your hand to ask them for the information and they don't wanna give it to you, bro. They see something in you, bro. And you should always know that you got that same potential. Right. Nir Costello: A You don't but you don't feel like everybody got a little bit of hate in them? Jhalil: I feel like everybody got a little bit of jealousy. Deion: Hate is like a different monster. Like hate come from Nir Costello: Appreciate you guys. Deion: Like him. Hat can come from within, like, you get what I'm saying? It really don't be having to do with another person. Jhalil: Yeah. Nir Costello: You said he didn't come from what? Deion: It comes from internal. Nir Costello: For sure. But I didn't seen people but I I've seen people be jealous of somebody but still don't want that taken from ⁓ You dig me? Deion: So it really Yeah. But that's what jealousy is. But that's what jealousy is. Like I don't like I don't like like I see you with them Jones and like I might twist my face up. But like I don't want it to go no farther than that. You feel me? That's just j I'm just being jealous at that time. I see something that I or like, you know. Nir Costello: Like I've seen it before. You said that's what? ⁓ I always looked at that like the being the heater. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: I know, that's what I'm saying. Like that's why we haven't a conversation 'cause that's how we take it in the community when it's not really that. Jhalil: Yeah, I feel like hatin is if like, yo, if if boy down the block he got it he got it wabbing, you feel me? And and if I'm hatin it's like, no bro, we gotta get him outta there. You feel me? That's that's hating. Jealous Nir Costello: Mm. Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: Like you said, like you like you just said that, right? But y'all never end up doing nothing. Y'all say that, like y'all say, like, yo, I don't really like cuz, man. I don't know why I don't like cuz. I just don't like him. That's hating. But jealousy is where you see him with a girl and you like, man, I'm gonna take his girl. Just because on the strength it's him. And you try to take that boy girl just on the just on the strength that is him. You put action behind I Deion: Right. Yeah, it's Nir Costello: think the way I was tortur I was raised where I ⁓ was raised with a little opposite. You dig me? Hold us? raised with it a little opposite. I wasn't raised with it being like a wasn't I wasn't told that way. Yeah, I wasn't told that way. That jealousy is is just the everybody got jealousy in ⁓ but everybody don't got hate it that but hate is the action behind it. I was to the opposite. Jealousy is the action. It's like love and loyalty. Love is a feeling. Love is emotion. But loyalty is the action that shows that that proves love. You dig what I'm saying? Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah. Nir Costello: Like you can have both of ⁓ without each other. But when you got both of ⁓ together, they prove the strength of each other. You you dig me? Deion: Right. But that's why I was saying like jealousy not really Nir Costello: Yeah. Deion: Like bad, it's just the way we perceive it and shit. You know what I'm saying? So if we come up and it's like a lot of times with our people, like whenever we feel shit and do shit, we just put a name to it and call it that. And then we be reteaching it to other people. And you know what I'm saying? And then that's how we think like we be like other cultures don't understand us. Nir Costello: But ⁓ Deion: But really they looking at the real word and being like, this is what it is. And then we looking at it like, no, you got it twisted. You get what I'm saying? Like a lot of words that we use. You know what I mean? Like now the kids might call each other broke and it don't matter what gender it is. Jhalil: Yeah, the real definition. Yeah, bro, shit, bro. Deion: If I'm on the outside looking at it, I'm like, that's kind of weird. But to them, they love that shit. They understand it. It's their shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I think this is the same way with jealousy and and ⁓ hating and all that. Like, cause even in the word, like when you say hating, it just sounds like it come with some some more strength than a motherfucker, like jealousy, like, like. At first it started with jealousy because I wanted the bull girl or I don't think he deserved her. But then me wanting to go take him from her and and make and then I don't even do nothing with the girl after. I just wanted to take that became hating like a motherfucker. Like you get what I'm saying? Like. Jhalil: Yeah, that's hate. Nir Costello: Yeah. I mean I get that. I I I definitely understand it 'cause even in the Krayan is this i i it is different it's different forms of jealousy. Like you got a destructive jealousy and you got the permissible jealousy. Destructive jealousy is where you don't want him to have that, where he learned the sorrow and you don't want him to have that sorrow. You wanna just you wanna be the one that knows that sorrow and the only one that knows that sorrow. But destructi but the permissible jealousy is where is where you see a brother get a thove and you're like, Yeah, that's thob hard. Jhalil: Yeah, yeah. Nir Costello: I mean he ain't really wearing it right, but I done wore I like that drone. I'm happy he got that drone, you feel what I'm saying? It's like it it's it's kinda like that. Like, all right, I see he got he got he got near he got he got ⁓ he did a interview with Jay Z. I could have did a better interview, but I'm happy for me 'cause like it's a good drone, like he did art, he did all right. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: De And that's like that's the actual definition of jealousy. Like when you you you like you'll see something wrong with it, like yeah, I don't really you know me. But I do fuck with it. Like that's that's jealousy, but it's hating when I'm like, damn, I don't I don't want Naira to have that shit, dog. Like I I want that shit for myself. Like, that's hating, bro. You feel me? Like, but jealousy can that's that's the natural like Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: That's the natural people feeling, bro. Like sometimes you can't avoid that shit. But hating you can always avoid hating, bro. 'Cause you can want something that's somebody had, but it's like how far are you willing to take it? You feel me? Just because you don't want that person to have it. And that's the the separation of it. Like. Nir Costello: I got a question. I got a question for y'all. So in your opinion I can answer a question, y'all cool with that? Jhalil: Come on bro, we here like this this the this for the dogs man, what's up? Nir Costello: Alright, so my question to y'all is like all right so we haven't a conversation. What's what's considered a man to y'all? Deion: Responsibilities, accountability. Jhalil: Yeah bro. Shit being accountable for shit, bro. Showing up when when shit hard, when shit real, when ain't nobody got your back and still making it happen, bro. That's that's what I see as being a man like. Nir Costello: basically being a man to to to to you is having responsibilities and taking accountability Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: Yeah, that's that's that's my journal to sum it up like as a as a a get right to the point type of journal, like everything else is good. Nir Costello: That would you say that? A mi So I I I I disagree to a certain extent because you can have responsibilities and you can take accountability but that don't make you a man in my opinion. Like that makes you an adult, but that don't make you a man. Because adults, they everybody gonna have responsibilities once you get to a certain age. Even when you're a kid, you got responsibility, you gotta take accountability of things. You get what I'm saying? Even when you're in school, you got homework, whatever. Deion: Mm. Nir Costello: To me a man i a man, the definition of a man to me is a person that's willing to sacrifice without the gain of anything. That's a man to me. A person that he ain't getting nothing out of this, but he has to do it all on the strength of it don't even gotta be what's right, but he doing it on the strength of his morals and his manhood and what he stand on. So in a way it is Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: Under accountability but I just like that I like I I always like to add in my belief system is is that sacrifices Jhalil: Yeah, you definitely gotta have some sacrifice in it too. Shit. Nir Costello: Because every man because that's a difference, like our like for example today, right? And I say something personal, I don't I don't really care. Today I had the I had the opportunity to, you know I I I had to pick my babies up, right? I got I got two children, whatever. So I had the opportunity to to pick my babies up and spend some time with ⁓ and take ⁓ to see more of my family, which would have been me it would have been in the way. Like it's more It's harder for me to maneuver when I got my baby with me. You dig what I'm saying? Because my kids is young. I got a three and a four year old. So it's like a h it's harder to maneuver when I got them with me. You get what I'm saying? And being on point, making sure they protect them, make sure they eat, they fed, and everything like that, make sure the the environment is suitable for ⁓ So I've noticed that I got broken out. But I I've noticed like but I also could have went the route of like, man, I could go I'd get ⁓ I'll give ⁓ tomorrow. Let me just do everything I gotta do now. Let me handle everything I gotta do now. I ain't really gotta spend no paper, I'm gonna I'm gonna just do what I gotta do. You get what I'm saying? I had to take the harder route because it's like I'm gonna spend the time with my kids. I want my kids to meet the rest of their family, even if they if like 'cause I got a family that's in Coastville. I want my I want my kids to meet them too. You dig what I'm saying? So It's like I had to sacrifice my fun or my desires just to make sure I could spend some more time with my babies. You dig what I'm saying? That makes sense. Deion: I mean for your for your living and and in your brain, yeah. Like you know I mean, technically the words you speaking and all of that, yeah, that makes sense. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Is it is of a variables and viables that can that can be the same, you know, taken as the same way. You get what I'm saying? Like, and it don't make you or break you either or. You get what I'm saying? Like, if you if you say I'm a man and I'm I gotta take care of X, Y, and Z first, but then you line up the rest, family and all. You know what I'm saying? To make like it's like it's like vice versa. Like you get what I'm saying? So whether it was today or tomorrow, you would have did the same thing vice versa. Nir Costello: That's a fact. Cause I don't got no choice. Like I gotta be a I gotta be a man, you dig me? Well, I gotta stand on morals, I gotta stand on principle, I gotta even i in and it's like I could have went the route of like, no, I'ma chill, I'ma I ain't on that, you dig me, but I can't I don't I I don't got that in me, bro. I can't I can't be no n I can't be that type of dude. It just Deion: But you see what's happening is like it is you do if is is you damn if you do, you damn if you don't, right? Like on one end, right? Nir Costello: I got a little bit of I got a better light now. I got a little better light. Deion: Right? Like on one end, right? If you got an appointment or a meeting with a with a club or whoever, right? Or interview or music, whatever, right? There's a responsibility and accountability to that because you signing up. You get what I'm saying? And because you because you signed up to have a baby, right? Like you accountable and responsible for that. Jhalil: Mm. Nir Costello: Yeah. Deion: You get what I'm saying? So on one end it's just gonna be the way of the options and then you being like prioritizing. Jhalil: Mm mm. Rare shit. Deion: And that's what I mean about really breaking down words and utilizing them where they really go. You get what I'm saying? Like We can all be like, this is what man shit is. Like, ⁓ I get up and and sacrifice whatever to take my kid my kids live with me. And I take them to school every morning. I be burnt the fuck out for real in real life. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like and and I be I it it'll sound good and be good to be like, yeah, I do all that sacrifice. And it's like, nah, I want something different, man. Like I want Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: You feel me? Like I wanna adjust that shit and be like, look, and then that's where jealousy comes in too, right? I'm looking at other five as you ain't gotta do this. You get what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, you ain't gotta do that. Like, motherfucker, like you got the weakness, like you get me? And then it's like it's a thin line to be having a conversation, right? And you like, like, yeah. Jhalil: You on the weekends only? Like, damn. Deion: I do this with my kids and ⁓ man, you got the kids like that. You should have you should and give advice, right? When it's like, bro, if your joint's so different than my joint that it's like you can't like all you can do is be supportive to me. You get what I'm saying? Be until you there, it's like unless you looking at it, you know, from an unbiased ⁓ space and you like, yeah. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: And that's what I mean about accountability and responsibility of a man, like being thorough. Like, like even if the bill due on Friday and you don't got the money, it's your responsibility as a man to call Pico and be like, look, I don't got it. What's the program I could get in? What's and if that's the sacrifices you talking about, then I get that as a man. You get what I'm saying? And being able to stand on that, like. Jhalil: ⁓ Deion: Don't stand down because you're 40 years old and you gotta be at this place in your life at Popeye's or whatever. You get what I'm saying? If you go below that responsibility and accountability to try to ⁓ you know, upstand to the other people or whatever who might look at you, then you less than a man. You get what I'm saying? Like, so it's like Nir Costello: Yeah, but I agree with you. But I'm also a a believer in a retro num a retro numb. So a retro number is basically when a word over time it it it changes the mean it changes meanings. Like for example, a ratchet linguistically means a tool. You feel what I'm saying? A tool that tightens, a tool that a tool that loosens. That's a ratchet. But then you have Deion: Right. I was about to say spot, nigga. Nir Costello: After that, a ratchet became colloquial colloquially speaking, a ratchet became a gun. You feel what I'm saying? We use it that way. And it ended up becoming in the dictionary in certain certain ways. Because you know, every word has four or five different definitions to it. Different ways you can use it, different ways that it it can be it can be explained. And then you got another noun, and then after that, another another definition for that was a ratchet could be a woman that's loose, which Deion: It would be Nir Costello: also entitles to the ratchet tightening and loosening. This is a loose woman. You feel what I'm saying? So I agree with you in knowing what a word means, but I'm also cognizant of knowing that every few years words not gonna stay the same. Because people evolve, people change. That's like the word trifle. When I was coming up, tri if you say somebody trifling, that meant they was dirty, they stink, they they not you know, they they they ⁓ what's the word like Jhalil: Yeah. Nir Costello: They're a trifling individual. You're trifling. That was some trifling stuff you did. That's you're you're you out of pocket. You feel what I'm saying? But the word trifle, the literal linguistic meaning of it, it literally means something small. It has nothing to do with filth. So I I agree I agree with you a hundred percent. But we also have to keep in mind that every time you look up a word, it always have one the first the first definition, the second definition, the third definition, the fourth definition, all these ways all these different ways this word could be used. Because time the evolution of time is always gonna change things. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, if that's what it is, you get me. So I mean, you know, and and that's all our walks are like. Nir Costello: You get what saying? Not trying to sound too much like a nerd though. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: You get me? And if that's your view of the elephant, you know, I echo that and like I understand like, you know, we all got our view of the elephant. So if you seeing dots, I'm seeing stripes, Jaw seeing, you know what I mean? Like what he's seeing, and we bring them all together, then we can make sense of some stuff. You get what I'm saying? And that's another part of, you know, while we sit and really be in competition like that, you know, we come up like Like ⁓ you know, be competitive, do this, and you know, through sports and through music and all of these things, right? Like, but as we was just saying, like the collab seems more valuable, you get what I'm saying? Like, like we can go farther if we collab and and and bring together, you know what I'm saying, our viewpoints and ideas and everything else like that. You get what I'm saying? So and and I know it's one thing like Within the ghetto, like in the hood, we got our viewpoint and it's probably narrow, right? Like we we probably think like what we think is how the world thinks. And you know, that's that's extremely so far. You get what I'm saying? And I just be wanting us to be right there amongst the people, like not under the people, but like amongst the people doing trades. You get what I'm saying? Like Nir Costello: Okay. Deion: Doing trades, world trades, you get what I'm saying? Having these products and and stuff like that. And you know, we we just be known for like entertainment and little stuff like that. And then just be like And so I really wanted to get to a point right where I I wanted to ask y'all, right? Y'all think we jealous of like other other races or cultures or or ⁓ other Nir Costello: Any true. ⁓ but I don't agree with that. I don't think we only known for entertainment. We known for being Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Nir Costello: In my opinion, I think we known as being a resilient group of people. You dig me? We are survivors of so much that they didn't put us through. I think that in our community it's promoted that you only got two options. You play ball or you make music. You go to entertainment route. That's the that's the easiest way to make money. But it's nobody that's really in the neighborhood that's telling people to go like It's always somebody in the neighborhood that's telling people to go to school. I've heard that when I was a kid. No, y'all gotta go to school, but y'all gotta be better than this. You gotta go to school, you gotta go to school. Were they saying that back when y'all was kids? Deion: Well, go to college. Nir Costello: Not even college, just go to school period. Go to trade school, get you a trade, get you this, get you that. Try to figure out what you actually want to do in life. Were they pushing that when y'all was kids? Jhalil: Thank you. Deion: ⁓ yeah, for sure. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. First. Nir Costello: So like I think that's really ⁓ us thing where we where we got that problem where we think like like I tell my son I want you to be pilot. I don't even break he naturally athletic. He loves basketball. But I try to indoctrinate his mind. I need you to be a pilot. That's what I want you to be. I don't know too many people that's putting in their that's indoctrinating their kids to be a pilot. I want my son to be a pilot or a dentist, one or the other. Deion: Yeah. Nir Costello: I want you to be something way different. I want you to be something that puts your mind to it. I know you're gonna do it. That's what I that's what I'm looking for. That's what I want from you. You dig me? Like, you're gonna do the basketball and I buy him planes to this day. I buy him little toy planes, so it's already in his mind that are this what I want to do. I'm trying to set up his environment that is like he likes this type of thing. We'll drive there every time I see an airplane, look up, look up in the sky, look up in this guy. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah, how old are you? Jhalil: Ha ha ha ha. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: ⁓ no, man. For me to answer the question though, I I kinda do think like sometimes bro, like, it is that that jealous feeling, bro, 'cause like other races, they the way that they stick together and support each other, bro. It's like it's not a jealousy where it's like or it's not a hate where it's like, damn, I wish they wasn't doing that and and you know, I wanna do it for myself. But it's like a thing there where it's like, damn, like you said, bro, you want your son to be a pilot. Like that's thorough. Like one of my man's one of my right hand man's and that's my cousin. He's a pilot. Like actually, like he fly commercial jets. You feel me? Like, real shit. I'm in the industrial field now with industrial cleaning and commercial cleaning and all of that. You feel I graduate tomorrow for environmental protection drone. Like, feel me? So it's like appreciated. So it's like, yeah, we definitely in the field and like I don't think Buck was saying like, yeah, we just known for that, but like outside of us, like, you know, we know what's really going on in the hood. We know what's going on with our brothers and we know where our minds at, bro. We can't just be one trick ponies out here. We understand that as a people. But the outside world, they don't understand that, bro. They might look at us like, ⁓ yeah, they tall. I bet you they can play ball. And yeah, you damn right. All three of us probably can hoop, you feel me? But that's just a natural I ain't gonna lie, the Buck nicest shit and ball. Like I'm nice and ball, Buck nicest shit and ball. You feel me? Like, so it's that's just I don't know, that's just attachments to us, like and what we really wanna do. So like we were saying earlier, like the eliminate all of that shit, bro. We gotta big up our homies and all of that shit that is on the learning shit. That is on building, that is on creating new things and inspiring and all that. That's that's where we at with it, bro. Like and that's the only way our shit gonna continue to like excel and grow, bro. We gotta be there for each other, like and meet people where they at, you know? Deion: Well what was your thinking when you when you was try when you was I know you was like moving forward in your career, right? Like but now that is in hindsight, like do you think back on like what what was your thinking process for wanting to get on the ⁓ the joint you was on and had that low situation and shit? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you know, not on him, but like more on your thinking and and like what you get from from the hind side of it. And then like you were saying about not collabing with everybody, but it seemed like, you know, you thought like one way about collabing and then now is a different result. You get me? Because of what happened, like now, you know, you might see collab in there's like, nah, I ain't even going that way or like, you feel what I'm saying? Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Mm. But that's what I'm saying. You know, no matter where we switch it up, it still got the same funk to it, right? Like because things happen, right? Like things occurred. Yeah, but you went from saying what's up to just beeping the horn. That that's the Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Okay. Deion: Yeah. No, you know, whatever however you speak your your s your truth. Jhalil: Okay. Deion: ⁓ yeah, absolutely. Yeah. For sure. ⁓ Ні. Absolutely. Right. Yeah, yeah, the family. Mm. Fuck with the John with ⁓ Yeah. Іга і What do you mean? Yeah yeah Jhalil: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Deion: Right. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Did you did you have it did you have it before and then put him on it? Like did you have a whole john of Jesus? Or you was already set to do that John Woody? Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Okay. Yeah, that none is crazy. Right, right. Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah yo and tell the people was the the name of that john too bro shout that john out so everybody can go check Deion: Yeah. They do. Mm-hmm. Perfect. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You just did that jump. ⁓ you just did an acapello for that jump. Mm. How long did it take you to put the project together? Jhalil: No. Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. I know what you're saying, like, you know what I'm saying? Like But it's it's it's crazy 'cause it's like The joint the joint viral come from like come from the word virus. Jhalil: Right. Deion: So when people think that they going viral, like they really just catching a virus. You know what I'm saying? Like and if you looked at it like that, then yeah, it would switch. Cause then the stuff that you put out that's that's really, you know, from the heart, really your story, really your experience. You know what I'm saying? Like really stuff that ain't ain't going ⁓ make you go kill nobody, but it's gonna make you think about your own self and what you know what I'm saying? And make you have to look in that mirror. You know what I mean? And so that type of stuff definitely need to be pushed to the forefront more and more. You know what I'm saying? But like we push the algorithm too. So the stuff that's in our minds that we be thinking or that we accept. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Deion: Is a part of it too, right? You feel what I'm saying? So that type of shit is a part of it too. So if we say we like competitive rap and we wanna hear niggas take each other's heads off and this and that, and then the algorithm say that's what I'm gonna play because that's where get the most views, then that's what's gonna happen. You feel what I'm saying? If we switch the volume on it and and change it to to, you know, that that good film music and Jhalil: That's gonna be the main thing. Deion: music that'll make you think about the shit that you doing and all that, then yeah, the algorithm will push that too. The algorithm don't got a cho no picks or nothing. You know what I mean? Like people be getting it mixed up. Like the algorithm don't got no choice like no picks. Money don't got no picks. You feel what I'm saying? It's us with the thoughts and everything like that. You feel me? Like if you say it's a black and white thing, it's a black and white thing. You know what I'm saying? If you say white people run the world and they got the most money, then that's what it is. And your reality gonna start showing you that that's what you think. You feel what I'm saying? So when I'm on Jones, not like when I'm on Jones, like that's what I'm looking for, bro. Like I'm looking for your type music, like you feel me? Maturity, like people don't realize, like they say Jay the best. But Jay started when he was 27, man. Like, you feel me? He was he was motherfucking. But I'm saying when he started coming to the world, he was mature. So when you hear his music, it's like, and then he even had a you versus you battle. That's that's what OB talking about all the time. Like, the fact that you was your age and you was mature, you could have been making four, four, fours. Jhalil: I mean. Deion: But instead, like you wanted to cater to the the the work the streets and everything, the world. So you needed a O and state property and all of them to keep you hip and all, because you wasn't in the streets of the time. Feel what I'm saying? So you had and that's what make it like, ⁓ for me. You get what I'm saying? Like I'm like O on a lot of shit. Like I like the thorough shit about people. Like if you fuck up, if you gay, you just Jhalil: Yeah. Okay. Deion: Stand on your shit. That's why I say a man is dead. I don't even play around. Like I don't cheat. I don't lie. I don't do none of that shit because it goes against my manhood. Like if I say that I'm committed to you, that's just what it is. You get what I'm saying? Like and it, you know, some of us still might struggle with it because we ain't accept it yet or we don't want to accept it. It don't take your manhood away. Jhalil: Mm. Deion: But it just it shows where your acceptance at currently. You get what I'm saying? So you know what I mean? Like I mean, we don't got another version of it. We only got the one that he got with state property and did all of this with. We don't got another one. You feel what I'm saying? Like we don't got another one to show us these opposites. A lot of stuff we saying is in hindsight. At the time of the crime, shit, we thought they was the hottest group and this was the like niggas was thoroughly shit and all that. Jhalil: Mm-hmm. That shit was crazy, bro. They had a crazy run. Deion: But now, you know, you getting stuff, you getting stuff that's coming out that's like, ⁓ And then you're, you know, in the future you'll have your time when you look back and be like, ⁓ Just like, you know, your your life before you went to jail and everything else, you look back like, ⁓ that really wasn't there, but it was near. It just was the time of the crime. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: And in the space that you was in, like you you evolved as a human and you got mature. You get what I'm saying? So of course you could look back now and be like, nah, that that wasn't that was you though. And if you try to separate, that's what make the universe make shit reappear in your shit. Like, all right, you wanna test this? I'm gonna show you how this thing go. You feel me? Like. Jhalil: Yeah, ain't no running from life, bro. Deion: Yeah, you got to accept the evolving, and that's the biggest struggle with the men. They don't wanna accept the evolving. You wanna still go back to 20 years and relive that time you got you got cheated on or you got slammed by another nigga or you got embarrassed or like you still try and live that and you don't wanna accept the evolving of man. That's what that's what becomes your shortcoming. It it don't be nothing else. And then because of that shortcoming, it it it spreads everything else in your life. You feel me? So now you absent on your pop. Now you I mean you absent on your kids. Now you lagging on the job. Now you doing all of this stuff. You get what I'm saying? You still try and compare with the young boys on the block. That's because you ain't accept that when the time of the crime you you ain't do what you you needed to do. I guess he agreed too much. But yeah, man, you know. I I love Youngin, like his energy, everything, he he definitely proper and shit. Like, and I just say what people always used to say to me, like, you just gotta keep on living. I remember people used to say that to me, like, Jhalil: Mm-hmm. And yeah, right. Deion: keep on living like fuck you think I'm doing it like it was a defense. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: But I understand that shit, man. You know what I mean? Like and that's the beauty of a cycle, right? Like, if we can all be different ages and share stuff, we can all like, you know what I'm saying? Like make sense of the shit and then like, you know, get a lot from it. But if you like, man, I ain't listening to young ball or I ain't listening to nothing, it's like. Jhalil: Yeah. Yeah. It's it just cause a bigger like disconnect, bro, real shit. Deion: Yeah. And you imagine, right? Like you you might not think about it, right? But like it could be jealousy and that shit, like, you know what I mean? Like you see a young bull and like you used to be 22 and he just like a lot, yo, like what? Like niggas streaming, niggas streaming and all that, bro, seeing way more money than Jhalil: Yeah, man, I'm sorry. Deion: So the old comedians and all that, you see what I'm saying? It starts being like Jhalil: Yeah. They definitely be hating on the youngest too, bro. But it's like, bro, you it is no need, cause like I ain't gonna lie, bro. Back then they had like the kings of comedy, they had the Apollo, all that bro, that shit was really funny as shit. Like to this day, that shit you still can turn that shit on. You feel me? Deion: Yeah. That's why I said it's a classic. Jhalil: So like bro, that that's a great thing. It don't matter what generation, what time period, bro, it's like we gotta give each other more grace though. Like all that jealousy, well not jealousy, that's the natural joint, like you you feel me, but all the hating, that shit gotta go somewhere else, bro. Where it's like, no, bro, instead of like just shooting the young boys down 'cause they streaming now, figure out how to bring your old school jokes and your your your twists to day new shit. You feel me? And and that's what you see going on now, bruh. Like Deion: Right. Yeah. Jhalil: Real shit, 'cause if not, if you don't embrace the new, you know it's out with the old from the rip, bro. So if you don't embrace the new shit and collab and build new relationships, bro, you'll be lost in time. Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: And then it's like with the youngins, bro, you can't just say that like, you know, old heads don't know what they talking about. They got the experience and the wisdom, bro. They done grew through the shit. Like, you mean they ain't let it break ⁓ and they made it to their certain peaks and all of that, bro. So like both of them is worth congratulating. You feel me? Like, and both of them deserve that collab, bro, cause that'll bring it all together, like. Real shit. Deion: Yeah. When they close out and shit, you know what I'm saying? Jhalil: Yeah, yeah. Deion: Because the ⁓ growth starts with honesty. Jhalil: That's enough room for all of us to succeed. Deion: Someone else light doesn't dim yours. Jhalil: If anything, it can help you find your own. Deion: Let's build a culture where we clap for each other, challenge each other and grow together. Jhalil: Yep, so we're gonna catch y'all on the next episode. Stay humble and stay focused, man. Keep hoping. Shifting the volume. Deion: And keep shifting the vibe. We outta cheer.