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Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And The Battle Over In Court Attire During Her Trial (10/22/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell has found out where she's going to serve
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Speaker 1: her 20 year sentence and it's not at Danbury. Now
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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people out there and
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Speaker 1: a lot of headlines out there calling where she's going
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Speaker 1: to be spending her time down in Tallahassee, a swanky prison,
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Speaker 1: but I have news for you folks, okay? There's no
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Speaker 1: such thing as a swanky prison. It doesn't matter if
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Speaker 1: you're in low security, minimum security, high security. Prison is prison.
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Speaker 1: And there's nothing fun about being in one of these camps. Now,
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Speaker 1: my biggest problem with her being in Danbury would have
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Speaker 1: been how easy the access would have been for people
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Speaker 1: that she knows in New York, where she was stomping
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Speaker 1: around most of her years. to come and visit her
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Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Her family. I wanted it to
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Speaker 1: be a little inconvenient. The same way it was inconvenient
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Speaker 1: for me and my family to go visit my grandpa.
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Speaker 1: First up in Oregon and then out in Lompoc. What
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Speaker 1: they do is they'll move you away from your family
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Speaker 1: and make it difficult on you, right? To travel as
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Speaker 1: far as finances go, logistics, getting off of work. So
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Speaker 1: they try and make the bid harder on people. Now,
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have the same effect on rich people, obviously,
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Speaker 1: because they have the assets and the money to travel
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Speaker 1: and do whatever the hell it is they want to do.
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Speaker 1: But with normal people, it's usually a real shot to
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Speaker 1: the gut when you get moved far away. And her
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Speaker 1: getting moved down to Tallahassee, well, it's still a bit
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Speaker 1: of a trip right now. Don't get it twisted. Her
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Speaker 1: family has enough money. They could move wherever they want
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Speaker 1: and be close to her or travel wherever they want
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Speaker 1: on private jets and shit and be comfortable. But still,
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Speaker 1: putting her in Danbury would have been a terrible message
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Speaker 1: to send, in my opinion. And I think people are
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Speaker 1: under the impression that Danbury is a worse facility than Tallahassee,
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Speaker 1: and that's not the case. Now again, look, when we're
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Speaker 1: talking about minimum security camps here, like we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: it's not a hard time being on the main line
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Speaker 1: in state prison in California. There's a lot of focus
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Speaker 1: on rehabilitation. And when my Gramps was taking his time
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Speaker 1: away to go to college, if you will, he was
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Speaker 1: in one of these low security camps as well. First,
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Speaker 1: he was in Oregon. And then after Oregon, he was
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Speaker 1: in Lompoc. And that's where he finished out his bid.
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Speaker 1: But there was no fences around the encampment. None of
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Speaker 1: that stuff. But in these articles, there's like all this
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Speaker 1: talk from these journalists and these outlets about how people
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Speaker 1: are able to get educated and, and, you know, take
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Speaker 1: classes and like, that's a bad thing. That's not a
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Speaker 1: bad thing for prison folks. That's, we should be offering
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, right? I don't know how people
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Speaker 1: can talk about prison reform and then at the same time,
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Speaker 1: talk about how there, there shouldn't be programs within these
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Speaker 1: prisons for people to better themselves. Now, look, Glenn Maxwell
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Speaker 1: can't be rehabilitated, right? But you can't, you know, change
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Speaker 1: the whole system because of one person. So if Ghislaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell has to go somewhere and serve out her time,
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Speaker 1: she's going to have to go somewhere. And wherever she goes,
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Speaker 1: there's going to be programs for the other inmates. And
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Speaker 1: you can't single her out and say, well, you can't
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Speaker 1: participate in these programs. Because that's not the way it works, right?
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Speaker 1: She's been convicted. Now she has to serve her sentence.
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Speaker 1: And even though she is a bipedal serpent and one
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Speaker 1: of the most disgusting human beings I have ever encountered,
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Speaker 1: maybe not in person, but you get the drift, she
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Speaker 1: still deserves to be treated with human rights and with
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Speaker 1: a certain level of dignity, like any person in prison.
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Speaker 1: So the whole push in a lot of these new
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Speaker 1: articles about how there's programs offered, I find that to
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Speaker 1: be a bit silly. Especially when it comes from outlets
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Speaker 1: that lean to the left that talk about how they're
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Speaker 1: for prison reform and justice reform. Because when you go
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Speaker 1: to these federal prisons, these smaller camps like this, more
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Speaker 1: times than not, you're going there for, you know, financial
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Speaker 1: crimes and shit. You're not, for the most part, a
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Speaker 1: murderer or anything like that, or someone who's dangerous to
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Speaker 1: other inmates. So when you go to a place like this,
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Speaker 1: the idea is to rehabilitate yourself. So when you get out,
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Speaker 1: you're a better person. Now, again, we know that's not
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Speaker 1: going to happen with Maxwell. She's never going to be
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Speaker 1: a better person. But for me, I look at this
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Speaker 1: as a victory, a small one, but a victory nonetheless
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Speaker 1: that she didn't get to go where she wanted to go.
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Speaker 1: So today we have an article from the Daily Beast,
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Speaker 1: but before we get into that article, let's read a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about Tallahassee from the Wikipedia page and
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Speaker 1: get an idea about this so-called swanky jail they're talking about.
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Speaker 1: All right, so this is straight from Wikipedia. Federal Corrections
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Speaker 1: Institution Tallahassee, FCI Tallahassee, is a low-security United States federal
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Speaker 1: prison for female inmates in Tallahassee, Florida. It is operated
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Speaker 1: by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice. The facility also has an adjacent detention
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Speaker 1: center that houses administrative security level male inmates. So basically
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Speaker 1: the shoe for people that are in danger of being
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Speaker 1: attacked by other inmates. They have a housing unit for them.
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Speaker 1: FCI Tallahassee is located three miles east of downtown Tallahassee
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Speaker 1: on Highway 319. Notable incidents. On June 21, 2006, at 7.42 a.m.
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Speaker 1: local time, Federal Bureau of Investigations and United States Department
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Speaker 1: of Justice Office of the Inspector General Agents attempted to
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Speaker 1: arrest six correctional officers in connection to a corruption investigation
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Speaker 1: into correctional officers trading drugs and other contraband for sex
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Speaker 1: with female inmates. Eh, sounds like a Disneyland, huh? A
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Speaker 1: real swanky prison, huh? You got six correctional officers who
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Speaker 1: are engaging in a, basically, a organized crime ring to
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Speaker 1: have sex with inmates, bring contraband in. Yeah, sounds like
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Speaker 1: a fantastic place. One of the officers, Ralph Hill, used
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Speaker 1: a personal handgun and opened fire on the agents. He
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Speaker 1: killed William Buddy Senthurt. an agent with the Department of
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Speaker 1: Justice Office of Inspector General. Hill was also killed. A
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Speaker 1: lieutenant with the Federal Bureau of Prisons was injured in
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Speaker 1: the shooting and transported to Tallahassee Memorial Hospital. The shooting
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Speaker 1: began in the lobby of the building and moved into
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Speaker 1: the courtyard near U.S. 319. Federal officers were unarmed at
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Speaker 1: the time and the officers were to have been armed
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Speaker 1: as well. Michael Fulmer, the FBI special agent in charge
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, said, The arrest situation was done in a
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Speaker 1: manner to be very controlled, where nobody would have any weapons,
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Speaker 1: and we could take this down so there wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: any violence. And this is exactly how it would have
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Speaker 1: been handled normally across the United States. The officers to
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Speaker 1: be arrested, Alfred Barnes, Gregory Dixon, Alan Moore, and Elavon Spence,
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Speaker 1: were transported to Wakuta County Jail, south of Tallahassee. Vincent Johnson,
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Speaker 1: the last officer named in the indictment, was not involved
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Speaker 1: in the sexual misconduct, but was alleged to have illegally
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Speaker 1: influenced the prisoners to engage in the behavior. So does
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Speaker 1: that sound like a Disneyland to you? Not to me.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it wouldn't sound like a Disneyland to the
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Speaker 1: families of the inmates there who were being sexually abused either. Alright,
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Speaker 1: so here are some of the notable inmates that have
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Speaker 1: served their time there as well. One, Colleen LaRose. She
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Speaker 1: served 10 years and she was released in November of 2018. U.S.
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Speaker 1: citizen known as Jihad Jane pleaded guilty in 2011 to
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Speaker 1: conspiracy to provide material support to terrorism and conspiracy to
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Speaker 1: kill in a foreign country for using the Internet to
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Speaker 1: recruit people to wage violent jihad in South Asia and Europe.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a fantastic person, huh? Chelsea Gerlach. Released from
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Speaker 1: custody in 2013, served six years. Member of the Echo
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Speaker 1: Terrorist Group, Earth Liberation Front, pleaded guilty in 2006 to
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Speaker 1: committing arson at the Vail Ski Resort in Colorado and
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Speaker 1: businesses in Oregon between 96 and 2001. Several other members
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Speaker 1: were also sentenced to prison. Maria Putina served an 18-month sentence,
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Speaker 1: released in October of 2019. Convicted of the Espionage Act,
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Speaker 1: was deported to Russia and after her release from federal custody.
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Speaker 1: Catherine May Wood served a 20 to 40 year sentence,
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Speaker 1: released in January 16 of 2020. Serial killer who murdered
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Speaker 1: nursing home patients in conjunction with her lesbian partner, Gwendolyn Graham.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like another fantastic human being, huh? So you see here, folks,
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Speaker 1: this is not a Disneyland, okay? You don't put people
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Speaker 1: like this in a Disneyland. Narcissa Velez Novacek, life in
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Speaker 1: prison without parole for the beating deaths of her husband
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Speaker 1: and mother-in-law. In 2009, Bernice Novacek and her son, multimillionaire
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Speaker 1: Ben Novak Jr., were murdered three months apart. Narcy Novak,
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Speaker 1: Ben's estranged wife, was convicted of orchestrating the murders. John
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Speaker 1: Paul Scott died in 1987. known as the only escapee
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Speaker 1: from Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary, known to have reached San Francisco
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Speaker 1: shore by swimming. Jalyn Delshawn Young, scheduled for release on
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Speaker 1: January 20th of 2025. American woman from Vicksburg, Mississippi, who
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Speaker 1: was convicted of attempting to join ISIS with her fiancé,
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Speaker 1: Mohamed Moe Daklaka. On August 11th, 2016, Young was sentenced
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Speaker 1: to 12 years in prison. Doc Lala pleaded guilty and
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Speaker 1: testified against Young and received eight years in prison. Mary Wilkerson,
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Speaker 1: released on February 4th, 2020. Former Quality Assurances Manager of
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Speaker 1: the Peanut Corporation of America. Kadada Savage, serving a life sentence.
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Speaker 1: Sister of Keboni Savage. helped plot for the crime by
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Speaker 1: retaliating against witnesses and aiding racketeering and hiring two hitmen,
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Speaker 1: Lamont Lewis and Robert Merritt Lewis, and is serving 40 years.
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Speaker 1: Merritt is serving life, and Caboni was sentenced to death.
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Speaker 1: And finally, the woman of the hour, Ghislaine Maxwell, sentenced
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Speaker 1: to 20 years in prison, release date on July 17th,
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Speaker 1: July 2037. associate of Jeffrey Epstein, convicted of sexual trafficking
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Speaker 1: of minors and related offenses. All right, so there you
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Speaker 1: have it, folks, a quick overview of Tallahassee and a
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Speaker 1: couple of the issues that it has faced in the past,
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Speaker 1: some of the people that it has housed. And as
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Speaker 1: you can see, there has been a long array, or
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Speaker 1: should I say wide array, of kinds of inmates that
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Speaker 1: this place has served, from jihadis to serial killers. And
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Speaker 1: for me, like I said earlier, the fact that she
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Speaker 1: didn't get to go where she wanted to go is
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Speaker 1: enough of a win for me. If they thought Tallahassee
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Speaker 1: was a better facility, don't you think they would have
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Speaker 1: asked to go to Tallahassee? They didn't, right? They asked
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Speaker 1: to go to Danbury for a reason. So I'm glad
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Speaker 1: that she didn't get to go to Danbury and she's
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Speaker 1: going to have to go down to Florida and suck
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Speaker 1: it up down here. All right, so we have an
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Speaker 1: article today from the Daily Beast and the headline is,
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell transferred to swanky Florida prison. Now, with everything
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Speaker 1: we just talked about, I don't know about swanky. Now, look, again,
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Speaker 1: it's not, you know, the Shawshank Redemption place, right? It's
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Speaker 1: not Guantanamo Bay, but it's still prison and shit still
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Speaker 1: cracks off. This article was authored by Barbie Latza Nadu.
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Speaker 1: Convicted sex trafficker and all-around bad girl, Ghislaine Maxwell, that's
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Speaker 1: better than the usual explanation or way they explain Ghislaine Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: so that gives them credit there. But still, human trafficker,
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Speaker 1: you mean, right? And general all-around scuzzbag and child abuser
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Speaker 1: and bipedal serpent? Okay, that's what you mean. Glenn Maxwell
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Speaker 1: has been transferred to the sprawling, low-security Tallahassee Federal Correctional
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Speaker 1: Institution in Florida, according to the Federal Board of Prisons database.
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Speaker 1: The facility, which features a tony brick entrance with white
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Speaker 1: pillars and a lush green sports field, is where other
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Speaker 1: famous criminals like Russian spy Maria Butina and Jihad Jane,
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Speaker 1: Colleen LaRose, served their sentences. And the way it's described, right,
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Speaker 1: like it's some kind of fancy hotel. Swank fields. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: people got to play sports, right? Remember, not everybody at
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Speaker 1: the facility is Glenn Maxwell. There's some people there that
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Speaker 1: are for, you know, minor crimes, tax evasion and shit.
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Speaker 1: And they're going to be out in a couple of years.
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Speaker 1: So should they just sit in their cells and not
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Speaker 1: have any ability to play sports or rehabilitate themselves? Certainly
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Speaker 1: not the kind of country I want to live in, where,
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Speaker 1: you know, we just send people to prison and let
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Speaker 1: them rot away and die. Now, unless you've committed crimes
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Speaker 1: that deserve something like that, you know, murder, severe violence, hell,
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Speaker 1: human trafficking as far as I'm concerned, but I don't
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Speaker 1: make the rules. You know, there has to be a
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Speaker 1: way for people to let off some steam and stuff, right?
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Speaker 1: The former procurus of underage girls, you mean the former...
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Speaker 1: child abuser, the former Jeffrey Epstein co-conspirator, that's what you mean, right?
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Speaker 1: For the billionaire pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein will be allowed to
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Speaker 1: learn a trade like horticulture, cosmetology, or baking, participate in
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Speaker 1: the prison talent show, and teach yoga as she has
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Speaker 1: done during her current incarceration based on the list of
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Speaker 1: activities offered on the prison website and several prison review listings.
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Speaker 1: It is unclear if she will be able to continue
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Speaker 1: studying Russian. Well, my guess is she'll be able to
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Speaker 1: have access to some computer time. Most inmates do have
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Speaker 1: access to some computer time, so she should be able
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Speaker 1: to get some kind of learning program if she wants
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Speaker 1: to continue learning Russian, or get a textbook, a Russian textbook,
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Speaker 1: and learn it that way. Maxwell, now 61, is serving
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Speaker 1: a 20-year sentence for trafficking underage girls for Epstein, her
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Speaker 1: one-time lover. She will surely be happier than she has
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Speaker 1: been at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, against which
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Speaker 1: she had filed more than 100 complaints, including excessive humiliating,
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Speaker 1: body cavity searches, and invasive shower surveillance. There's no doubt
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Speaker 1: that any one of these federal prisons, for the most part,
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Speaker 1: is better than the lockup she was in. That lockup,
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Speaker 1: the MCC, MDC, they're all shitholes, folks. I mean, absolute shitholes.
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Speaker 1: The kind of place I would never want one of
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Speaker 1: my relatives to be in. According to several news reports,
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Speaker 1: Judge Allison Nathan, who presided over her spectacular trial, spoke
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Speaker 1: out against the transfer to such a cushy spot. This
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Speaker 1: is just plain wrong in the article. I hate to
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Speaker 1: say that, but it's just plain wrong. You mean to tell,
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Speaker 1: if Tallahassee was so cushy, why wouldn't Maxwell ask to
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Speaker 1: go to Tallahassee? And as far as Nathan making that request,
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Speaker 1: who knows what she really said or didn't say. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen one way or the other. But the fact
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Speaker 1: is this, if it was Tallahassee that they wanted to
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Speaker 1: go to in the first place, they would have asked
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Speaker 1: for Tallahassee. They asked for Danbury for a reason. Nathan
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Speaker 1: had hoped to send her to FCI Danbury, on which
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Speaker 1: the popular prison show Orange is the New Black is based.
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Speaker 1: The Florida institution made headlines in 2021 after prison guards
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Speaker 1: were convicted of sexually abusing 15 female inmates. Yeah, what
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Speaker 1: about in 2006? Not even a mention of the shootout
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Speaker 1: or anything here in the article. And that's why I
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Speaker 1: added it to the beginning here, so that we have
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Speaker 1: a full overview of what's going on. The new facility
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Speaker 1: will require her to wear an authorized prison outfit consisting
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Speaker 1: of khaki pants and a shirt or a khaki dress.
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Speaker 1: The prison handbook outlines a number of perks including access
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Speaker 1: to a large commissary where she can spend $ 320 a
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Speaker 1: month and access to the internet and email through the
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Speaker 1: prison network. Her days will begin at 6 a.m. and
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Speaker 1: she can choose a number of activities to round out
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Speaker 1: her schedule. That's how it works for everybody. She's not
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Speaker 1: getting any special treatment, folks, okay? Same deal for my
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Speaker 1: gramps when he was at the facility. Had himself a job,
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Speaker 1: an accounting job. He'd do his gig. Then after he
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Speaker 1: was done doing whatever he had to do, his quote-unquote responsibilities,
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Speaker 1: he'd go out to the baseball field and watch the
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Speaker 1: guys play baseball. Coached a couple of the ball teams.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things for people to
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Speaker 1: do when you're in a minimum security prison to try and,
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Speaker 1: you know, rehabilitate yourself. With Maxwell, she doesn't really need
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Speaker 1: all of that, right? She's already rich. She doesn't need
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Speaker 1: a college education. So she's just going to have to
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Speaker 1: find some busy work for herself to do. Several prison
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Speaker 1: review sites list access to a weight room, team sports
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Speaker 1: like flag football and softball, and Pilates and yoga as
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Speaker 1: activities afforded to the inmates who choose to participate. She
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Speaker 1: can also get psychotherapy treatment. This is all this. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy that the Daily Beast is out here deriding it.
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Speaker 1: This is the sort of thing that these leftist outlets
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Speaker 1: cry about on a regular basis. Having this sort of
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Speaker 1: thing available for prisoners. And remember, we're not talking about
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Speaker 1: high security jail here, folks. OK, high security prison. That's
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Speaker 1: a different story. You shouldn't have any of this stuff
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Speaker 1: available to you if you're that kind of criminal. But
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Speaker 1: if you're somebody who just evaded taxes or got caught
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Speaker 1: up in some sort of financial scheme or white collar crime,
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Speaker 1: you really think you should be put in a facility with,
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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but people that are borderline animals.
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Speaker 1: That's not doing good for anybody we do that. Nobody's
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Speaker 1: going to be rehabilitated that way. British heiress Maxwell was
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Speaker 1: convicted of five of six counts of sex trafficking and
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Speaker 1: other crimes she carried out against four women, the youngest
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Speaker 1: 14 at the time, between 1994 and 2004 at Epstein's
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach Villa, which is 420 miles from her new prison.
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Speaker 1: Her release date is July 17th, 2037, according to Federal
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Speaker 1: Bureau of Prisons database. So Maxwell transferred finally to the prison,
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Speaker 1: She is going to be in Florida, Tallahassee, not getting
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Speaker 1: the Danbury like we said here on the podcast. I
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Speaker 1: knew she wasn't going to get Danbury. Now, I figured
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Speaker 1: she'd get either medium or low, so it doesn't really
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Speaker 1: shock me that she got low, to be honest. with you.
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Speaker 1: Considering her status and who she is and blah, blah, blah,
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Speaker 1: doesn't shock me one bit. Now, if I was making
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Speaker 1: the decisions, she would be in high security prison. All
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Speaker 1: of these molesters would be, because as far as I'm concerned,
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Speaker 1: they can't be rehabilitated. So why have them take up
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Speaker 1: a spot in a low-level facility? But I don't make
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Speaker 1: the rules, unfortunately for us and fortunately for them. But
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Speaker 1: the whole, you know, oh, it's a swanky. Look, I
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Speaker 1: get it, right? It's not Alcatraz. It's not Gitmo. But
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Speaker 1: it's still prison. She's still going to be there for
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Speaker 1: 20 years. And it's still going to be a shock
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Speaker 1: to the system, especially for somebody like Maxwell, who's used
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Speaker 1: to writing their own ticket and doing whatever they want,
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Speaker 1: whenever they want. So there you have it, folks. We've
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Speaker 1: been waiting to find out what her final destination would be.
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Speaker 1: And now we have that information added to the catalog.
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Speaker 1: So what do you folks think? You think Maxwell is
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Speaker 1: going to have a fun time while she's in prison,
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Speaker 1: no matter where she's at? Or do you think it's
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Speaker 1: going to be 15, 20 years of absolute misery? For me,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking absolute misery. Because when you're as rich as
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Speaker 1: she was or is, and you come from where she
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Speaker 1: came from, this is not the business. This is not
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Speaker 1: the life that you're used to living. And Ghislaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: is about to get a front row seat. If you'd
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Speaker 1: like to contact me, you can do that at bobbycapucci
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Speaker 1: at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find
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Speaker 1: me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that
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Speaker 1: I discussed can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
21:45
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Christina Oxenberg, who
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Speaker 1: is the second cousin of Prince Andrew and a friend
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Speaker 1: or former friend of Ghislaine Maxwell, has a few things
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Speaker 1: to say about what she thinks Ghislaine Maxwell is going
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Speaker 1: to experience in federal prison. And I have to tell you,
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Speaker 1: I disagree with a whole lot of what Ms. Oxenberg
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Speaker 1: has to say. So let's just dive right into this
22:11
Speaker 1: article from The Sun and let's get to it. Headline,
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Speaker 1: Max Influence. Ghislaine Maxwell will exploit her notoriety to control
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Speaker 1: more vulnerable inmates in prison, Andrew's cousin claims. This article
22:26
Speaker 1: was authored by Katie Forrester. I don't even know where
22:30
Speaker 1: to begin with that. That's not how it works in prison.
22:34
Speaker 1: When you hear about vulnerable inmates, those people are already
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Speaker 1: accounted for, if you will. There are CARs. And when
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Speaker 1: you get to prison, whoever the shot caller is for
22:47
Speaker 1: your car, depending on what color you are, that's how
22:50
Speaker 1: it works in prison, by the way, well, that shot
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Speaker 1: caller is going to make the decisions. It's not going
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Speaker 1: to be Ghislaine Maxwell showing up and acting like she's
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Speaker 1: some big dog in prison. That's not how this works. Now,
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt there's going to be people who want
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Speaker 1: to be around her to get something from her. Maybe
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Speaker 1: a few extra things in commissary or whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: But she's not going to have any friends there. She
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Speaker 1: might be able to set it up where she gets
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Speaker 1: some protection. And that protection will last until the people
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Speaker 1: protecting her decide they don't want to do that anymore.
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Speaker 1: But walking in and acting like she's going to be
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Speaker 1: able to exploit inmates... Not going to happen, especially if
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Speaker 1: she stays in the main line. Now, if she PCs
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Speaker 1: up and she goes to the shoe, it's a little different.
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Speaker 1: She's in there with other chomos, right? Other people who
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Speaker 1: have PC'd up for whatever reason. It's not like being
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Speaker 1: on the main line where you're gonna get stuck. The
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Speaker 1: disgraced former socialite, you mean co-conspirator, human trafficker, child abuser,
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Speaker 1: general all-around scuzzbag and bipedal serpent? Is that what you meant?
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Speaker 1: Sixty was jailed for two decades earlier this week for
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking teens for late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. She will
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Speaker 1: soon be moved from the notorious Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn,
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Speaker 1: New York, to the minimum security federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut.
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Speaker 1: That is incorrect and not true. It's just a straight-up fallacy.
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Speaker 1: We don't know where she's going to be moved yet.
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Speaker 1: And I keep seeing these headlines, and the whole reason
24:29
Speaker 1: these headlines are posted, oh, she's going to Danbury, is
24:33
Speaker 1: to elicit a reaction from people. It's typical legacy media bullshit.
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Speaker 1: The fact is, we have no idea if she's going
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Speaker 1: to Danbury yet. No idea. And in fact, I doubt
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Speaker 1: she is going to go there. I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: the opposite way. All right. All these people talking about
24:51
Speaker 1: how she's going to go to Danbury. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that's going to be the case, especially considering the fit
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Speaker 1: programs there. You mean to tell me they're going to
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Speaker 1: put a human trafficker in with people who have already
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Speaker 1: been abused? Stop it. This is all to elicit emotion
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Speaker 1: from people. That's all. The plush lockup served as the
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Speaker 1: inspiration for Orange is the New Black, and experts claim
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Speaker 1: it will be like Disneyland for the criminal who has
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Speaker 1: been enduring a living hell in the lead-up to her trial,
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Speaker 1: according to her lawyers. Again, fallacy. Now, don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 1: Danbury is not a hard-time type of place. But you're
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Speaker 1: in federal prison, okay? You're not, you know, it's not
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Speaker 1: an enjoyable time for you, especially if you're a child molester.
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's second cousin, Christina Oxenberg, who used to be
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Speaker 1: friends with Maxwell, but turned down the chance to write
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Speaker 1: her autobiography, spoke to The Sun exclusively about how she
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Speaker 1: feels the criminal will cope with prison life. With all
25:51
Speaker 1: due respect to Christina Oxenberg, what does she know about
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Speaker 1: federal prison? What does she know about doing a bid
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Speaker 1: and doing a hard time? Christina claims, While it may
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Speaker 1: be provocative for people to herald threats of stabbing and
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Speaker 1: maggoty food that await her for the next 20 years,
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Speaker 1: the reality of her sentence, justly or not, will be
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Speaker 1: much more comfortable for Ghislaine. She has a vital resource
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Speaker 1: that will make sure she does just fine, support from
26:19
Speaker 1: the outside, even better. And to her, probably the most important,
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Speaker 1: is that that support comes with fabulous wealth. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Oxenberg's talking about here. Trying to
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Speaker 1: stay relevant, maybe? I don't know. But the fact is this.
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Speaker 1: There is maggoty food. And there are people there that
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Speaker 1: will stab you. Anyone telling you different has no idea
26:43
Speaker 1: about federal prison or prison in general. Money talks just
26:50
Speaker 1: as loudly in prison as anywhere else in the world.
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Speaker 1: In fact, even more so, especially to those who don't
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Speaker 1: have it. Yeah, and here's what happens. You show up there, Mr. Moneybags,
27:00
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, well, I'll take care of this. I'll
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Speaker 1: give you that before you know it, you're being extorted
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Speaker 1: by everybody on the yard. Everybody. And if you think
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Speaker 1: that's an enjoyable life, to be owned by whoever the
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Speaker 1: shot caller is in the yard, you have no idea
27:16
Speaker 1: about prison life. During my time in Florida prisons, working
27:21
Speaker 1: as a volunteer teaching creative writing, I saw lifelong connections
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Speaker 1: and loyalties made with gifts of food and simple pleasures
27:29
Speaker 1: we wouldn't think twice about walking past in the outside world. Oh,
27:33
Speaker 1: please give me a break. Look, all the top ramen
27:36
Speaker 1: in the world is not going to change the fact
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Speaker 1: that Ghislaine Maxwell is a child molester. If she was
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Speaker 1: going in there for something else, fine, we could have
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Speaker 1: this conversation. But she is not going in there for
27:45
Speaker 1: something else. She's going there for being a child molester.
27:50
Speaker 1: And falling right behind money, Ghislaine has the second biggest insulator, fame.
27:54
Speaker 1: In prison, of course. Fame insulates for a different reason. Yeah,
27:58
Speaker 1: ask Whitey Bulger how that fame worked out for him.
28:03
Speaker 1: Ask John Gotti how his fame worked out when he
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Speaker 1: got hemmed up. Fame doesn't mean shit in prison. You're
28:10
Speaker 1: just a number. And if you're there as an athlete
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Speaker 1: or something like that, well, that's one thing. But Maxwell,
28:16
Speaker 1: she's not famous. She's infamous. Maxwell, who was seen with
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Speaker 1: shackles around her ankles, which rattled at her recent hearing,
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Speaker 1: showed no emotion when facing the public gallery as her
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Speaker 1: sentence was handed down. In an earlier statement, she claimed
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Speaker 1: her association with Epstein, who killed himself in a Manhattan jail, allegedly,
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Speaker 1: in 2019, while awaiting his own sex trafficking trial, was
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Speaker 1: the greatest regret of her life. Not the actual abuse
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Speaker 1: of the girls, though. Just hanging out with Epstein, huh? Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're about to learn the greatest regret of your life.
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Speaker 1: No accountability. She apologized to the survivors and branded him
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Speaker 1: a manipulative and cunning man who fooled all in his orbit,
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Speaker 1: but insisted she was innocent and was also tricked by him.
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Speaker 1: Christina told The Sun, as I've always known her, and
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Speaker 1: as she certainly proved herself to be during her statements
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Speaker 1: at sentencing, Ghislaine refuses to take true accountability for her actions.
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Speaker 1: She is painting herself now as a victim of Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 1: which must be particularly infuriating to the women she actively
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Speaker 1: participated in abusing because her mind has embraced that as truth. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: the ironic reality is that she will be surrounded by
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Speaker 1: true victims. FCI Danbury and other prisons like it are
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Speaker 1: filled with women who are serving lengthy terms as either
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Speaker 1: scapegoats or because they fought back against abuse themselves. So
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Speaker 1: I don't even understand what Oxenberg's getting at here. That's
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Speaker 1: the whole reason she's not going to go to Danbury.
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you really think that Allison Mack ends
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Speaker 1: up at medium and Ghislaine's going to end up at minimum?
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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I guess I could be
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Speaker 1: wrong here, but it just doesn't seem like it tracks.
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Speaker 1: She will use that to her advantage to build a
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Speaker 1: sense of camaraderie with these women, while always keeping an
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Speaker 1: eye on staying on top of the food chain. Maxwell
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Speaker 1: will likely ask for a request to transfer to the
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Speaker 1: United Kingdom after serving three years of her sentence. And
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Speaker 1: Oxenberg thinks that this is going to happen too. It's
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Speaker 1: not going to happen. She's not going to the UK.
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Speaker 1: Sex mad. Christina, who has written a book about her
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Speaker 1: encounters with Maxwell in the 90s, shocking, feels that she
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Speaker 1: has the innate qualities that will serve her well over
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Speaker 1: a long sentence. No, she doesn't. She's not a G.
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Speaker 1: She's not someone from the streets. She has no connections
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Speaker 1: to the people who really run the yards. Jail is
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Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame, folks. Say you're in two different gangs, right?
30:54
Speaker 1: Just for instance. Say you're in Florencia 13 and another
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Speaker 1: guy's in, I don't know, 18th Street. And you guys
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Speaker 1: go to prison. Well, now you dudes are running in
31:05
Speaker 1: the same car. You're running together, no matter that you
31:08
Speaker 1: were beefing on the street. Because you're in the Hispanic car.
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Speaker 1: And the shot callers for the Hispanic car are the
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Speaker 1: Mexican Mafia. So that's the car you're riding with. If
31:19
Speaker 1: anyone thinks Maxwell is going to show up and she's
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Speaker 1: going to be strutting around like she's some big shot
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Speaker 1: on the yard, you really are not dealing in reality.
31:27
Speaker 1: And you must not have been in a real prison
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Speaker 1: or whatever down in Florida. My guess is some sort
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Speaker 1: of lockup. The Serbian-American writer previously branded Prince Andrew as
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Speaker 1: a hapless sap and low-hanging fruit after he was accused
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Speaker 1: of sleeping with Epstein's sex slave, Virginia Roberts. Accused of
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Speaker 1: sleeping with? You mean raping? You lowly son of a bitch.
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Speaker 1: And low-hanging fruit? What are you trying to give him
31:54
Speaker 1: a little bit of a way out here? He wasn't
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Speaker 1: low-hanging fruit. He knew what he was doing, and he
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Speaker 1: knew what he was. She alleged Maxwell once boasted... to
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Speaker 1: her about procuring women for billionaire financier pedophile Epstein, and
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Speaker 1: claims they recorded famous pals during stays at his many
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Speaker 1: lavish residences. Christina also recalled parties she attended where Maxwell
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Speaker 1: was a guest referencing her shocking behavior and often inappropriate comments. Well,
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Speaker 1: my question is, why did you continue to go to
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Speaker 1: these parties? That's the real question for Christina Oxenberg. She
32:29
Speaker 1: has a bawdy sense of humor. Her favorite topic was
32:32
Speaker 1: always sex, a particular area of interest in prisons. Not
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Speaker 1: least of all her own well-documented bisexual experiences, she told
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Speaker 1: The Sun this week. Ghislaine loves to shock and she
32:43
Speaker 1: does it as much to be entertaining as strategic. Well,
32:46
Speaker 1: if she loves all of that, she's going to have
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Speaker 1: a real opportunity to get turned out in prison because
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Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen. She never had a problem
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Speaker 1: working a room and establishing and manipulating power relationships to
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Speaker 1: her benefit. A tactic Christina claimed she learned at her
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Speaker 1: late father's knee and was honed by her crimes with Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Some may call it a criminal mind, but that was
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Speaker 1: the world Ghislaine always knew, she went on. She will
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Speaker 1: be more at home in prison than she may be aware.
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Speaker 1: I just, I can't tell you folks how much I
33:18
Speaker 1: disagree with this whole article. This looks like someone who
33:22
Speaker 1: just made a story up and said, ah, you know what?
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll run it in the sun. And I guess,
33:28
Speaker 1: you know, it's her opinion, obviously, about what's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to bash her, obviously, but I
33:34
Speaker 1: just disagree with Ms. Oxenberg's opinion here. I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's reality of what Ghislaine Maxwell is going to face
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Speaker 1: in prison. She's not walking on the yard. She's not
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Speaker 1: going to influence people. She's not going to be a
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Speaker 1: shot caller, okay? She's going to be another victim on
33:51
Speaker 1: this yard. That's what she's going to be. People are
33:53
Speaker 1: going to exploit her. People are going to extort her.
33:56
Speaker 1: And people are going to make sure that Ghislaine Maxwell
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Speaker 1: knows the pecking order. If you'd like to contact me,
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Speaker 1: you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I
34:13
Speaker 1: at protonmail.com. You can also find me on Twitter at
34:17
Speaker 1: B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that I discussed can be
34:23
Speaker 1: found in the description box. Alright, what's up everyone and
34:27
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. We have an update
34:32
Speaker 1: on Ghislaine Maxwell and her living conditions at FCI Tallahassee.
34:38
Speaker 1: She has a couple of new roommates who are pretty
34:40
Speaker 1: interesting people to go along with the other roommate who
34:43
Speaker 1: we talked about previously who was behind bars for murder. Well,
34:48
Speaker 1: let's just dive right into this article from the Mirror.
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Speaker 1: And let's see what Christopher Buckton, the author, has come
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Speaker 1: up with. Headline, Ghislaine Maxwell, jailmates with gun-toting drug dealer
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Speaker 1: with a machete conviction. Sounds like the salt of the earth, huh?
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Speaker 1: Definitely the kind of people you want to be rooming with.
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Speaker 1: The convicted teen sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, 60, shares her
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Speaker 1: sleeping quarters with Manda Mae Rowell and Shakara Bryant inside
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Speaker 1: Florida's FCI Tallahassee prison. So, her, uh, Living conditions and
35:22
Speaker 1: accommodations certainly aren't the same as she's used to, right?
35:26
Speaker 1: You're not bunking with Prince Andrew and Ehud Barak anymore,
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Speaker 1: are you? No, no, no, no, no. Now you're bunking
35:32
Speaker 1: with murderers, thieves, and other human traffickers. In other words,
35:38
Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell is exactly where she belongs. Glenn Maxwell has
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Speaker 1: been bedded down with two serial drug traffickers, one of
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Speaker 1: whom is a ruthless gun-toting dealer with a very significant
35:52
Speaker 1: conviction for using a machete with about a foot-long blade. Yo,
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Speaker 1: you know what kind of maniac you have to be
35:58
Speaker 1: to use a machete on somebody? That's the kind of
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Speaker 1: shit you see down in Mexico with groups like CJNG
36:06
Speaker 1: or in a place like, you know, Jamaica with some
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Speaker 1: crazy-ass drug lord coming to chop you in half. The
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Speaker 1: convicted teen sex trafficker, 60, shares her sleeping quarters with
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Speaker 1: Manda Mae Rowell and Shakara Bryant inside Florida's FCI Tallahassee prison.
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Speaker 1: Between them, the pair have more than 70 convictions and
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Speaker 1: are each currently serving five years for serious drug trafficking offenses.
36:32
Speaker 1: So they're serving five years each, while Ghislaine Maxwell's up
36:35
Speaker 1: here looking at that 20. She got that 20-piece McNugget, right?
36:40
Speaker 1: She paid for the extra combo pieces. A source said
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine's bunkmates could not have come from more different and
36:47
Speaker 1: difficult upbringings than her. You know what's sad? Because in
36:52
Speaker 1: another world, another time, all of these people who are
36:56
Speaker 1: sharing this jail with Ghislaine Maxwell would have been on
36:59
Speaker 1: their list of targets. You think that these women, like
37:04
Speaker 1: these drug traffickers, come from good homes? You think they
37:07
Speaker 1: come from homes that aren't broken where the father's already
37:10
Speaker 1: probably doing a stint for a drug charge as it is?
37:14
Speaker 1: Because that's how it works. That's why the war on
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Speaker 1: drugs is so terrible. Do you know the kind of
37:20
Speaker 1: toll the war of drugs has taken on the inner cities?
37:24
Speaker 1: The homes in the inner cities? Shakara in particular had
37:31
Speaker 1: it so very tough. From a young age, both got
37:34
Speaker 1: in with the wrong crowd. Seeing them head down roads
37:36
Speaker 1: they refused to turn back on. Both their trial judge
37:40
Speaker 1: told them they were the owners of their own fates
37:42
Speaker 1: after being given numerous chances to change. But it's impossible
37:46
Speaker 1: to imagine a more different childhood from all the privileges
37:50
Speaker 1: Ghislaine was giving. And that's how it is, man. Look,
37:53
Speaker 1: if you go into prison or jail and you're from
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Speaker 1: an affluent background, You're going to be in the 1%
37:58
Speaker 1: of the 1%, more than likely, in that lockup. Most
38:02
Speaker 1: of the people who are in jail, let's be very real,
38:04
Speaker 1: are poor people who are uneducated. Now, does that nix
38:11
Speaker 1: them of their crimes or absolve them of what they did?
38:14
Speaker 1: Of course it doesn't. They have to do their time,
38:16
Speaker 1: especially for violent crime. But when you look at the
38:21
Speaker 1: upbringing from Ghislaine Maxwell and her bunkies here, it's impossible
38:27
Speaker 1: not to notice the difference. And then to think how
38:29
Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell squandered it all, it's just infuriating. Maxwell is
38:37
Speaker 1: being held in the prison's general population, housed in Unit
38:40
Speaker 1: B South, a dormitory of 120 beds, separated into cul-de-sacs,
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Speaker 1: of two bunk beds in each. Although they provide some
38:50
Speaker 1: privacy to her and her bunkies, they have no door
38:53
Speaker 1: to them. Each woman is provided their own locker, the
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Speaker 1: size of two microwaves on end, but they must purchase
38:59
Speaker 1: their own padlock from the prison's commissar and everything they
39:03
Speaker 1: buy must fit in. So that's pretty common. You have
39:07
Speaker 1: a footlocker when you're in one of these kinds of lockups,
39:09
Speaker 1: the low security, and you could put stuff in that footlocker,
39:13
Speaker 1: but it all has to fit in that footlocker. You
39:15
Speaker 1: can't have shit under your pillow, stashed in your shoe,
39:18
Speaker 1: nothing like that. And you have to buy it all, obviously, right?
39:23
Speaker 1: So now with inflation, things are a lot more expensive
39:25
Speaker 1: in these lockups. Obviously, it's not going to affect Elaine Maxwell,
39:29
Speaker 1: but her bunkie. and her sellies, you know, with things
39:32
Speaker 1: going the way they're going, I wouldn't be surprised to
39:34
Speaker 1: see Maxwell get pressed and extorted for some money. Maxwell,
39:40
Speaker 1: who works in the prison's law library, can visit the
39:42
Speaker 1: store once every two weeks to stock up, spending a
39:45
Speaker 1: maximum of $ 360 each visit. Rowell was sentenced in December
39:51
Speaker 1: 2019 in Iowa's southern district in Council Bluffs. The 30-year-old
39:57
Speaker 1: was found in a motel room in April of 2018
40:01
Speaker 1: with more than two pounds of methamphetamine. So how much
40:06
Speaker 1: sleep do you think this lady was getting? Two pounds
40:08
Speaker 1: of meth? This lady's on five pounds of tweak looking
40:13
Speaker 1: like James Van Der Beek out here, running around like
40:16
Speaker 1: a lunatic, I'm sure, knocking on other people's doors, asking
40:19
Speaker 1: if they need their VCRs fixed. You ever see somebody
40:23
Speaker 1: absolutely tweaked out? It's a sad, sad state of affairs.
40:27
Speaker 1: According to court documents obtained by the Mirror, when armed
40:31
Speaker 1: police raided the room, they found a loaded. 380 semi-automatic pistol.
40:36
Speaker 1: So once you have the drugs, and then you have
40:38
Speaker 1: a gun with those drugs, and they nail you for trafficking...
40:42
Speaker 1: It enhances your charges. So they love to nail people
40:46
Speaker 1: with a fat bag of drugs and a gun? Forget it.
40:50
Speaker 1: It's a dream come true for the police and prosecutors.
40:53
Speaker 1: On a mobile phone, they also discovered pictures of heavily
40:56
Speaker 1: tattooed Roll holding the firearm in that hotel room and
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Speaker 1: operating the laser sighting device on the firearm. Other photos
41:05
Speaker 1: showed her holding a different gun. Yo, I'm looking at
41:08
Speaker 1: a picture of her right now, this Roll lady, a mugshot.
41:11
Speaker 1: She has, you know, the face tattoos, the neck tattoos,
41:14
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. Certainly the kind of lady
41:16
Speaker 1: that looks like you'd be buying tweak from her. As
41:21
Speaker 1: a convicted felon, former Taco Bell worker, Roll was banned
41:25
Speaker 1: from handling one. Outlining the case against the career con,
41:29
Speaker 1: prosecutors said, in the motel room where the defendant had
41:32
Speaker 1: possession of the firearm was methamphetamine and all of the
41:36
Speaker 1: drug paraphernalia needed to distribute methamphetamine. But the most sinister
41:41
Speaker 1: side to Roel was revealed in her sentencing report. In
41:45
Speaker 1: singing up to nine and a half years behind bars,
41:49
Speaker 1: United States Attorney Mark Crickbaum wrote, she has been on
41:52
Speaker 1: probation on at least three different times and has not
41:55
Speaker 1: been successful once. Look, this is what happens with drug addicts.
41:59
Speaker 1: Because if you think she was just selling this meth
42:01
Speaker 1: and she wasn't addicted to it, you're crazy. Just about
42:05
Speaker 1: every one of these meth dealers especially, is addicted to
42:09
Speaker 1: their sick-ass disgusting drugs. So she definitely was all whacked
42:14
Speaker 1: out on these drugs, and then what happens is people
42:16
Speaker 1: go to jail, they have a come-to-Jesus moment, if they're
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Speaker 1: still not getting high, and then they get out and
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Speaker 1: start the process all over again, because they've never really
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Speaker 1: dealt with the issues that are causing the addiction in
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Speaker 1: the first place. She has a very significant conviction for
42:32
Speaker 1: using a machete with about a foot-long blade to threaten
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Speaker 1: a person. The need to protect the public from the
42:37
Speaker 1: criminal acts of this defendant is very real and should
42:41
Speaker 1: be considered heavily by this court in determining a sentence. Meanwhile,
42:46
Speaker 1: mom of two, Bryant, began her criminal career at just 14,
42:49
Speaker 1: carrying out an aggravated battery, but also convicted of the
42:53
Speaker 1: use of a throwing a deadly missile into a building. What?
42:58
Speaker 1: What does that even mean? Throwing a deadly missile into
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Speaker 1: a building? The 36-year-old has been arrested 37 times for
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Speaker 1: more than 40 offenses. Bryant's terribly dysfunctional upbringing was highlighted
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Speaker 1: during her sentencing in Tampa in December of 2019. Now look.
43:17
Speaker 1: These are exactly the women Maxwell and Epstein would target.
43:21
Speaker 1: I wonder if the women in there are hip to
43:23
Speaker 1: that fact. Many of the former KFC workers' offenses are
43:31
Speaker 1: for motoring, but in March of that year, she was
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Speaker 1: arrested for selling almost 100 grams of crack cocaine. Judge
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Kovacek sentenced Bryant to the lowest term sought by
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Speaker 1: prosecutors after hearing her life story. After recommending several programs
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Speaker 1: for her while inside, the judge told her, you've got
43:49
Speaker 1: a bad record, but you can't keep living, but you
43:52
Speaker 1: can't keep living. You've got to get beyond that. Along
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Speaker 1: with her bunkmates, Maxwell has formed a close friendship with
43:59
Speaker 1: the infamous female killer, Narcy Novak, inside. And we know
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Speaker 1: that Novak's not really a killer. She hired people to
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Speaker 1: do the killing. She didn't, you know, do it herself.
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Speaker 1: But either way, she's in prison for murder. And that's
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Speaker 1: Maxwell's road dog, right? The yin and the yang, according
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Speaker 1: to people. I'm sure that relationship's going to end up well.
44:21
Speaker 1: Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in June after being
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Speaker 1: found guilty of enticement of minors and sex trafficking of
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Speaker 1: underage girls for ex-boyfriend, co-conspirator, general all-around scuzzbag, fellow child abuser,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. The billionaire, millionaire, scumbag, pedophile, Wall Street financier
44:41
Speaker 1: and convicted sex offender killed himself, allegedly, in a Manhattan
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Speaker 1: jail cell in 2019. Epstein had been awaiting his own
44:49
Speaker 1: sex trafficking trials. Well, just a quick update there, folks,
44:53
Speaker 1: on our resident bipedal serpent, Ghislaine Maxwell, and her current
44:58
Speaker 1: living conditions. Obviously, we'll keep adding this stuff to the
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Speaker 1: catalog as it becomes available, because it's going to be
45:05
Speaker 1: a fun trip for the next 15, 20 years to
45:07
Speaker 1: talk about Ghislaine Maxwell rotting behind bars. All right, folks,
45:12
Speaker 1: it's going to do it for this one. If you'd
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Speaker 1: like to contact me, you can do that at BobbyCapucci
45:17
Speaker 1: at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. You can also find
45:25
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that
45:32
Speaker 1: I discussed can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
45:37
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. We're getting some
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Speaker 1: information about Ghislaine Maxwell and her new living conditions down
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Speaker 1: at FCI Tallahassee. Now, previously, she was in general population. Well,
45:52
Speaker 1: we're learning that she has been moved to a new
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Speaker 1: unit within the facility that is reserved for the people
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Speaker 1: who have the best behavior amongst the inmates, which is
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Speaker 1: insane to me considering the crimes that this lady's locked
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Speaker 1: up for. I mean, we're not talking about white-collar crime here.
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Speaker 1: We're not talking about somebody who, you know, might have
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Speaker 1: forgotten to pay their taxes. This lady committed crimes against children,
46:17
Speaker 1: and we're going to give her a cushy situation? We're
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Speaker 1: going to move her from an already primo situation into
46:24
Speaker 1: an even better one? Meanwhile, there's people rotting away in
46:28
Speaker 1: prison around the country right now as we speak for
46:31
Speaker 1: crimes that are a lot less devious than Ghislaine Maxwell's.
46:36
Speaker 1: Today's article is from the Daily Mail and the headline,
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell is transferred from squalid cramped prison to cushy
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Speaker 1: honor dorm at FCI Tallahassee as she seeks to overturn
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Speaker 1: her sex trafficking conviction. This article was authored by Ben Ashford.
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Speaker 1: A federal appeals court may not overturn her 20-year sentence
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Speaker 1: for pimping girls for Jeffrey Epstein, but at least Ghislaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell has escaped the violent-plagued prison wing nicknamed the Snake Pit.
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Speaker 1: Bosses at FCI Tallahassee agreed to transfer the notorious madam.
47:10
Speaker 1: You mean child abuser? All-around scumbag and bipedal serpent. That's
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Speaker 1: what you mean, right? Out of the jail squalid B-South unit,
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Speaker 1: where 120 inmates are crammed into tiny cubicles of four bunks, DailyMail.com
47:23
Speaker 1: can reveal. Insiders say fights and bullying are routine as
47:27
Speaker 1: convicts squabble over what to watch on TV and face
47:31
Speaker 1: long lines to use the phones and the computers. So
47:34
Speaker 1: that's where a human trafficker should be. And I'd argue
47:38
Speaker 1: that the situation that she's in right now in general
47:42
Speaker 1: population in FCI Tallahassee is better than she deserves. When
47:47
Speaker 1: you're committing the kinds of crimes that Ghislaine Maxwell has
47:50
Speaker 1: been convicted of, then I would think that your punishment
47:53
Speaker 1: should certainly fit the crime. But here we're not seeing that.
47:57
Speaker 1: We're seeing somebody who has lived with great privilege her
48:01
Speaker 1: whole life once again get great privilege. And I don't
48:05
Speaker 1: know how she's considered one of the best-behaved inmates here,
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Speaker 1: considering she's already been to the hole, considering she's already
48:12
Speaker 1: had problems with other inmates. But all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell is an exemplary inmate, and she's gonna get moved?
48:20
Speaker 1: I call bullshit. But Maxwell's cushy new digs in D-South,
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Speaker 1: the so-called Honor Dorm, are reserved for 30 to 40
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Speaker 1: of the low-security Florida lockups' best-behaved prisoners. There are two
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Speaker 1: bunks per cell. but so few occupants that the disgraced
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Speaker 1: British socialite, you mean child abuser, 62, is almost guaranteed
48:40
Speaker 1: to have her own room, as well as four times
48:43
Speaker 1: the storage. Well, good for her. Four times the storage.
48:46
Speaker 1: She can fit more top ramen and tofu in her footlocker.
48:51
Speaker 1: In the snake pit, there are fights every day. The
48:53
Speaker 1: bullies jump the line to use the phones and won't
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Speaker 1: let you watch what you want on TV. A prison
48:59
Speaker 1: source exclusively told thedailymail.com, Well, yeah, that's how it works
49:03
Speaker 1: in prison. You're not just going to go up and
49:05
Speaker 1: change the community TV to whatever you want if you're
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Speaker 1: some lowly-ass child abuser like Elaine Maxwell. Whoever has the
49:12
Speaker 1: keys to the yard, they're going to decide what's on TV.
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Speaker 1: The conditions in D-South are more like the sort of
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Speaker 1: thing Maxwell will do. have experienced when she attended boarding
49:22
Speaker 1: school as a young girl. Everything is well-ordered. There's less problems,
49:26
Speaker 1: less drama. Fights are unheard of. Everyone gets along because
49:30
Speaker 1: they're so happy to be there. And when you go
49:32
Speaker 1: to one of these camps where it's low security, it
49:35
Speaker 1: is completely hands-off. If you get into an altercation of
49:38
Speaker 1: any kind, you get sent back to the yard. So
49:41
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that if you're going to prison, this
49:45
Speaker 1: is the kind of place you want to be. And
49:47
Speaker 1: is it any shock to anybody out there that Maxwell
49:49
Speaker 1: wormed her way into it? Maxwell's lawyers told New York's
49:54
Speaker 1: Second Circuit Court of Appeals this week that she should
49:57
Speaker 1: never have been prosecuted for grooming Epstein's victims because of
50:01
Speaker 1: a provision in his 2008 sweetheart plea deal. Yeah, the
50:05
Speaker 1: deal that should be thrown right out the window. And
50:08
Speaker 1: don't tell me deals can't get tossed. We've seen it
50:10
Speaker 1: plenty of times before. And it's another reason why we
50:13
Speaker 1: go through court documents of other cases. There's plenty of
50:16
Speaker 1: precedent out there. The question is, why hasn't the federal
50:20
Speaker 1: government gotten off their ass and gotten rid of this
50:22
Speaker 1: plea deal for good? Epstein agreed to a much maligned
50:27
Speaker 1: 13-month work release arrangement with Florida federal prosecutors, which let
50:31
Speaker 1: him spend just a few hours per week in jail
50:34
Speaker 1: and for soliciting underage girls for sex. Remember though, folks,
50:38
Speaker 1: it's all just a big conspiracy theory. The deal also
50:42
Speaker 1: granted immunity to a list of the Warp financier, you
50:45
Speaker 1: mean pedophiles, alleged co-conspirators, you mean conspirators, right? Not alleged.
50:50
Speaker 1: Although it didn't mention Maxwell, his ex-lover, and chief accomplice
50:54
Speaker 1: by name. Maxwell's attorney, Arthur I. Dalla, argues she should
50:58
Speaker 1: be covered by the clause, But the government says it
51:01
Speaker 1: makes no difference because the deal only applies to Florida.
51:05
Speaker 1: And that's how these deals usually work. It's not carte
51:08
Speaker 1: blanche to do whatever you want around the country. You
51:11
Speaker 1: have to be completely upfront and honest with the authorities
51:15
Speaker 1: or your deal gets thrown right the fuck out. They've
51:19
Speaker 1: done it with plenty of mafia figures. They've done it
51:21
Speaker 1: with plenty of people in the cartel. But good old
51:24
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, we'll just give him a pass. If the
51:27
Speaker 1: three-judge panel chooses not to toss her 2021 conviction, federal
51:32
Speaker 1: prisoner 02879-509, or Max as she's known behind bars, won't
51:38
Speaker 1: be eligible for release until July of 2037. FCI Tallahassee
51:44
Speaker 1: has been portrayed as more akin to a holiday camp
51:46
Speaker 1: where inmates can learn new languages, enjoy yoga camp, and
51:50
Speaker 1: take part in softball tournaments. And I know that when
51:53
Speaker 1: Mike Gramps was doing his bid up at Lompoc, He
51:57
Speaker 1: was on the low security yard, and they literally could
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Speaker 1: have walked right out of the yard if they wanted to.
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Speaker 1: There was no fence, nothing like that. And they're reliant,
52:06
Speaker 1: meaning the federal government, on people being on that yard
52:09
Speaker 1: not screwing up. That way they don't get sent back
52:11
Speaker 1: to wherever they were. So there's no doubt that this
52:15
Speaker 1: is a relatively cushy situation for Glenn Maxwell. And somebody
52:20
Speaker 1: who was convicted of what Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of,
52:24
Speaker 1: I don't know how we could sit here and feel
52:26
Speaker 1: good about this. But conditions in the aging federal facility
52:31
Speaker 1: are far from fancy for the approximately 750 women and
52:35
Speaker 1: 300 men in a small satellite unit with a recent
52:38
Speaker 1: inspection uncovering rodent infestations, rotting food, and walls smeared with filth.
52:44
Speaker 1: The ceilings and windows of all five housing units, each
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Speaker 1: divided into north and south, were found to be in
52:50
Speaker 1: such dire need of repair that inmates resorted to plugging
52:53
Speaker 1: leaks with feminine hygiene products. And none of that's okay, honestly.
52:58
Speaker 1: The DOJ and the BOP, they talk all this nonsense about,
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Speaker 1: you know, changing things and fixing the culture of how
53:05
Speaker 1: things are broken within the system. And then they don't
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Speaker 1: do anything about it. They just let everything continue to rot.
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Speaker 1: Worst of the lot is B South, the raucous, crowded
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Speaker 1: home to newcomers where the disgraced daughter of the late
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Speaker 1: UK newspaper, tycoon Robert Maxwell, has been locked up since
53:22
Speaker 1: July of 2022. Dailymail.com reported last May how two Cuban
53:27
Speaker 1: felons were thrown into solitary after they passed Maxwell a
53:31
Speaker 1: threatening note demanding that she buy them items from her
53:34
Speaker 1: $ 360 commissary allowance, and that is relatively common in prison.
53:40
Speaker 1: If you're doing time with gang members or you're doing
53:42
Speaker 1: time with people that are, you know, lifers or used
53:46
Speaker 1: to being in the system, and you come in there
53:48
Speaker 1: and you're somebody who's from a privileged background, you're going
53:51
Speaker 1: to get pressed. And Ghislaine Maxwell is lucky that she's
53:55
Speaker 1: a woman and not a man, because her time behind
53:58
Speaker 1: bars would be a lot worse. Maxwell's bunkies then complained
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Speaker 1: that she was stinking out their cubicle because of her
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Speaker 1: reluctance to use the showers, the most likely setting to
54:08
Speaker 1: take a beatdown in prison. Go take a shower with
54:11
Speaker 1: your stankin' ass booty. The Oxford graduate ran screaming for
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Speaker 1: help when one blazing argument ended with an inmate threatening
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Speaker 1: to bash her with a padlock. She tattled on another cellmate,
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Speaker 1: a transgender firearms offender nicknamed Batman, for having noisy sex
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Speaker 1: with a girlfriend in the bed above her. Maxwell has
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Speaker 1: also made enemies with the staff by constantly filing misconduct allegations,
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Speaker 1: accusing guards, cleaners, and pastors of everything from sexual harassment,
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Speaker 1: to discriminating against her Jewish faith. Pretty interesting that all
54:44
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Ghislaine Maxwell is a ultra-Orthodox practicing Jew.
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Speaker 1: Pretty convenient, huh? Max was in their faces every day
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Speaker 1: until she got her move to D-South. She even called
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Speaker 1: the prison chaplain an anti-Semite, another source explained. It looks
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Speaker 1: like they eventually caved and decided she would be less
55:04
Speaker 1: of a headache if she got her own way and
55:06
Speaker 1: lived alone. And that's probably what it came down to. Unfortunately,
55:10
Speaker 1: when it comes to somebody like Maxwell, who's going to
55:12
Speaker 1: continuously file all of these claims against the staff in
55:16
Speaker 1: the prison, sometimes they're like, you know what, forget it.
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Speaker 1: Let's just move this person and not deal with this
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Speaker 1: headache at all. And that's probably what happened here. She's
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Speaker 1: been crowing about how much quieter it is and how
55:29
Speaker 1: she can finally stretch her legs. But the girls are
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Speaker 1: really mad that she jumped the line. and she's going
55:35
Speaker 1: to end up building a lot of animosity here towards herself.
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Speaker 1: She's going to get all of this special privilege and
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Speaker 1: all these favors, and the other inmates, they don't like
55:43
Speaker 1: that shit. Especially considering she already made her name for
55:46
Speaker 1: herself as a snitch. There are people here who have
55:50
Speaker 1: not had a single write-up in 10 years, and they
55:52
Speaker 1: are still fighting to get a spot. Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell
55:55
Speaker 1: was already in the hole. So that's what I'm talking about.
55:59
Speaker 1: How is it possible that Ghislaine Maxwell rates for a
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Speaker 1: move like this? Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking minors
56:06
Speaker 1: and multiple counts of conspiracy after a federal trial heard
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Speaker 1: how she lured girls as young as 14 into Epstein's
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Speaker 1: clutches and abused them. Let's not forget that part. Her
56:17
Speaker 1: lawyers asked that she serve her time at FCI Danbury,
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Speaker 1: the white-collar Connecticut lockup that inspired Orange is the New Black.
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Speaker 1: She was instead shipped 1,000 miles south to Tallahassee, where
56:29
Speaker 1: working-class Latinos and blacks make up much of the prison population. Dailymail.com
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Speaker 1: revealed last month that Maxwell has been writing a tell-all
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Speaker 1: memoir from behind bars to combat what she describes as
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Speaker 1: misinformation about her ties to Epstein's sick grooming empire. Oh,
56:46
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Ghislaine Maxwell to rehash all the
56:49
Speaker 1: old bullshit she's told us for years. But prison pals
56:53
Speaker 1: don't expect the trafficker to finally come clean because the
56:56
Speaker 1: purpose of the book is to clear Maxwell's name and
56:59
Speaker 1: prove she didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, if she had
57:02
Speaker 1: anything to serve up, It would have been served up
57:04
Speaker 1: at sentencing. Now she's a convicted felon. Who's going to
57:07
Speaker 1: listen to what she has to say? Federal inmates are
57:11
Speaker 1: prohibited from cutting publishing deals, but there's nothing to prevent
57:15
Speaker 1: her from writing a private manuscript and mailing it to
57:17
Speaker 1: a lawyer or loved one for distribution. She doesn't have
57:21
Speaker 1: a computer, but has access to a typewriter and can
57:24
Speaker 1: bone up on the legal system via her job in
57:27
Speaker 1: the law library. In a self-serving prison interview last year,
57:31
Speaker 1: Maxwell denied knowledge of Epstein's crimes, insisting she regretted ever
57:35
Speaker 1: meeting him and had no idea he was capable of evil.
57:38
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no idea whatsoever. She was just, you know,
57:42
Speaker 1: completely ignorant to what Epstein was, as they were abusing
57:45
Speaker 1: little girls together. But jurors heard during her 2021 trial
57:50
Speaker 1: that she acted as the boss of Epstein's Palm Beach,
57:53
Speaker 1: Florida mansion, where she would ensure a constant supply of
57:56
Speaker 1: teenage girls, were available for assorted massages. Epstein was due
58:02
Speaker 1: to go on trial before Maxwell, but killed himself in
58:04
Speaker 1: custody in August 2019 before his case could be heard. Well, folks, look,
58:10
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that Ghislaine Maxwell knows how to play
58:13
Speaker 1: the system. And there's no doubt that when you have
58:15
Speaker 1: a few bucks, things are a lot different for you
58:18
Speaker 1: when you get locked up than they would be if
58:20
Speaker 1: you were poor. And we're seeing that with Ghislaine Maxwell.
58:23
Speaker 1: You're hearing about people who have been in there for
58:25
Speaker 1: 10 years, never had a write-up, and they still can't
58:27
Speaker 1: get a bed in this cushy dorm, but Maxwell all
58:30
Speaker 1: of a sudden shows up, and bada-bing, bada-boom, she's in?
58:34
Speaker 1: If you were looking for the most ridiculous news of
58:36
Speaker 1: the day, this is it. Alright folks, that's going to
58:39
Speaker 1: do it for this one. All of the information that
58:42
Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description box.