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What does suffrage history look like? | HBR Talk 307 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to Hannah Forgets how to control a touch pad on a
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  laptop computer. That's definitely not the name of the show. Sorry, guys,
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  how to do that? And I don't know why it's showing in my
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  screen? Is the wrong thing? Hopefully it says on your screen? What
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  does suffrage history look like? HBr Talk two o seven? Because OBS is
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  telling me that it's it's streaming the wrong thing. We're seeing something. It's
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  a dark blue background with some burgundy circles. Oh yeah, that's your timeline.
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  That's the timeline. So this is gonna be interesting. And I actually
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  moved the timeline. I didn't mean to do that. There we go.
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  We're starting at the beginning of the seventeenth century here, so there you go.
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  Relevant context. Tada. So hello and welcome to HBr Talk three oh
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  seven. What does suffrage history look like? I'm your host, Hannah Wallen,
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  and I promise I'm not incompetent, just tired here with nonsense annilator Lauren
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  Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson, and tonight we're going to look
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  at my timeline of Western suffrage and its historical context to be I'm just incompetent.
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  There we go to better understand the way things developed, and there's a
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  few things I'll explain about this before we get into it. But before we
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  as well as a link to feed the Badger dot com in the drop
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  down menu at the top of the page. And so here we go.
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  We've been going over history related to suffrage probably for about a month, maybe
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  a little more than a month now, because this is there's a lot of
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  history. I mean, it's it's like what eight, eight or nine centuries
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  if you go back to how feudalism developed, it's even longer because Western suffrage
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  kind of came out of that. It we to recap. We sort of
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  went over the evolution of suffrage itself as part of the English parliamentary system,
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  which evolved out of the the concept of the king's financiers advising him through the
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  Great Council, and of course those were his vassals, those were his lords,
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  and that's in the English system, that's where the House of Lords comes
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  from. And the rest of the context being that as as they decided that
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  they needed more input and more respect for their interests by the monarch whose initiatives
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  they were financing, they started to bring in more and more common interests,
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  more and more common people into the equation. And that's where the House of
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  Commons comes from. Now, obviously in the US we don't have that.
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  We don't have Royalty. We have the Senate and you know, the House
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  of Representatives, and they're still done two different ways, but it's done that
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  way in part because the two house system helps to act as checks and balances
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  against each other, or at least that's what's supposed to happen, you know.
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  With the uniparty in place, it doesn't always so they don't fight very
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  much with each other like they should. But I'm gonna move the video window.
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  I thought I had that the way I wanted it, and I don't.
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  I'm gonna move it up so you can see more of the That's not
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  what I wanted to move. I want to move the actual there it is,
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  And now this is this is gonna appear kind of small, and I
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  think I'm gonna have to hm hmm. I think I mean to actually have
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  to shrink it. I hate to do this, but it's a it's a
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  matter of what you can and can't see in the window. Yeah, the
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  whole thing all along there, there's a whole area at the bottom that you
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  guys can't see. So I'm just gonna move this up there we go,
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  and we'll see and then there's there's above and below the timeline as well,
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  so we'll do that. Yeah, and I can move it around this way
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  and that way, you guys will have a better view of this and all
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  right, so there's gonna be blank spot behind us for the most part.
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  This will just give like underneath a timeline you can sort of see. It
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  has other capacities that can be shared and stuff. But it's not finished.
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  So like there's there's a lot I'm going to add to this over time,
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  but there's way more than we're going to discuss tonight already on it. So
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  there's that. And like I said, as we went through that that history,
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  we we learned a little bit about the context of voting, in terms
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  of the context of gynocentrism, in terms of the contest, context of human
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  evolution, and how historically and prehistorically women were a lot tougher than they are
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  today. So a lot of the excuses that were made for the history of
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  women's military service or lack thereof, and the fact that historically men's voting,
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  men's suffrage was always intrinsically connected to service, military in particular, but also
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  civic duty that wasn't just about fighting, like the duty of having some contribution
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  to your community that made you gainfully employed and so on. Like men's voting
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  history was always attached to that, but women's wasn't wasn't necessarily always attached to
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  that. So Albert Nataretro gave us five dollars a can and said, stop
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  string with the timeline, Hannah, or the TVA will show up. They
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  screw up looking at MCU. You don't want them here, ketchup women most
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  affected? What did this ketchup mean? Oh, you weren't talking about Do
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  you remember a few shows back when we were talking about ridiculous things that were
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  funded by tax dollars because we we we talked about the the relevance of taxation
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  to the history of suffrage as well, and I pointed out that the US
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  makes people pay for things like that study where they tipped a table and measured
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  how fast ketchup ran down the table and different brands were compared, and that
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  was that was the whole study. And uh it was it was funded by
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  American tax dollars. Oh, like that's project to find out if Thanos really
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  could snap his fingers. Remember that the stupid ship that the government used your
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  tax dollars. The government funded a study on what happens when you feed cocaine
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  to pigeons. Well, it happens they have heart attacks. They don't,
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  they don't. They don't handle cocaine very well. Most people don't either.
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  But and then if you use it long enough, in high enough amounts,
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  you'll also have heart attack. But they gave the pigeons a lot of cocaine.
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  Like, you know, we really have to do something about the insidious
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  cocaine addicted pigeon problem in New York. I for one, trusted science,
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  and I will never give cocaine to a pigeon ever. Again. Yes,
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  it's it's it's that problem of you know, the stuff is just so cheap
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  people are throwing it at the birds, you know, I mean, like
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  you really want to just off a few pigeons, You don't even have to
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  go for the expensive stuff. Give them some rice. True. Yeah,
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  that's me though, because they'll blow up and give them how much how much
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  laxatives with which cocaine is cut, you're asking for trouble when it comes to
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  pigeons. Yeah. So so basically one group of people in the world who
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  are not full of shit is cocaine users. They turn hitchcocky in a tin
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  bottle. Uh yeah, they run around asking people. You talking to me,
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  Uh you think I'm puny. But all right, So there's there's that
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  and the timeline process I'm gonna delve a little bit into before I actually uh
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  talk about things on the timeline itself. What I'm basically doing is going through
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  and I started with the United States because I have the most information already about
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  that, and so I could go in and fill in as much as I
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  could find the exact dates for this timeline. If I don't put the exact
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  day, it won't just say sometime during this year. It had It goes
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  day by day, So I have to find the day this law was passed
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  or the day this event happened. And a lot of like articles and stuff
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  online and even the historical sites that give you, you know, a rundown
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  of this is this is what led up to this, and this is what
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  happened here, and here's the timeline, you know, and they they'll do
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  like timelines where it's not along the line it's just a list of events like
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  bullet points, but they'll just say the year. And so I was looking
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  for something I could link to or put a put a link to anyway,
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  as I didn't actually put I didn't actually link my links. I just put
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  the U R L in everywhere. I may go back and change that,
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  but that was probably the biggest time eater was finding sites that actually would say
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  what the day was without relying on fucking Wikipedia, because I hate Wikipedia and
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  I also don't trust it. And there were a few times when Wikipedia did
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  not agree with like history dot com or the government sites that say this is
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  our history of our country and this day is the day that this was or
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  where it. You know, you find the actual law that passed and it's
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  signed and dated, and the date for the signature is not what Wikipedia says
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  it is. So I, you know, I don't I don't like relying
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  on Wikipedia for anything. It's it's kind of like walking out onto to uh
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  a frozen lake that has currents that that run warm. You know, you
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  never know where the thin ice is going to be and where you're gonna get
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  dropped. So so there's that. So a lot of this the the timeline
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  is gonna jump around a little bit in terms of uh, there's a lot
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  of information for some points in time and not so much information for other points
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  in time. And there may be things the timeframe we're going to discuss tonight,
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  there may be things that I will go back later and add and highlight
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  in future shows, because I haven't got the Scottish context in there. I
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  haven't got the Welsh context in there, haven't got the Indian context in there.
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  I have some of the what the English and the Canadians would refer to
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  as Aboriginal context, or in in the US we'd call a Native American context,
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  but not a lot. And there are some things that I need to
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  add in regard to the decisions that were made about the formation of the US
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  Constitution that are relevant because of how Native Americans voted. So I'll talk about
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  those, but they may not be actually on the timeline, but they will
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  be eventually, and at some point then, you know, like I said,
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  I'll add as I go through and find references for things that I've learned
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  and can tell you about, I'll add them to this And at some point
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  I will also make a link to this public so that people can use it.
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  And somebody's asking if I have spoken with that. I don't know Destiny,
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  So I don't know if anybody in HBr has spoken to with Destiny.
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  But no, I don't. I don't know who Destiny is. I probably
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  have heard of him, and I've probably learned something I didn't like and dismissed
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  my knowledge of him because of that. He's a pointless midget with a brain
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  the size of a wall and a mouth the size of Jupiter. Oh he's
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  a feminist, yes, no, why would I speak to that guy?
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  But like, male feminists in particular can be very annoying when it comes to
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  dealing with issues like this. And it's like female feminists they're entertaining because they
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  throw temper tantrums and they do the Flouncin bounce, which is fun. Like
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  they squawk, they go off like one of those toys that they put on
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  the shelves or Christmas time where you touch it and it plays a song or
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  something, except for these like you, you speak to it and it has
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  a massive, complete meltdown and and uh and then blocks you. But male
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  feminists are are like either they have been made neurotic in a way that is
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  abnormal, even for neurotic men. And it's it hurts to talk to them
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  because you just I don't like seeing anybody like that and in that in that
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  mentality, right, or they have boundary issues, and uh, you know,
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  most of the time I run into the ones that have boundary issues,
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  and some of the behavior they engage in is kind of disturbing, and it
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  it feels like I'm talking to somebody who's whose boundaries have been sort of forcibly
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  raced by the ideology that he has joined in with. And uh, are
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  you sure you have a broken person? Are you sure they don't know who
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  Destiny is because you're describing him to a tea. Actually, I'm talking about
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  the last guy that that I had a conversation with on Twitter. It's really
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  bad. The last feminist guy had a conversation with on Twitter. It's very
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  It really is. It's just very disturbing to talk to male feminists. They
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  have problems that I the when we start healing as a society from the damage
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  that feminism is done, those guys are going to need a lot of work.
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  And I'm it's going to be a lot of work to keep them from
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  self destructing. M so, but no. Albert Adaretric gave us two dollars
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  and said Destiny is the poster boy for SIMP. I'm just not not going
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  there. I'm not interested in this guy at all. I would say he
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  can kiss my ass. But I already told you a lot of male feminists
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  have boundary issues, so you don't say stuff like that about them because they
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  might do it. All right, So to the timeline, So I started
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  out with some things that are basically just context what we're looking at. Here
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  there were three East India companies. There is the British East India Company,
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  the Dutch East India Company, and over here this little there's the French East
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  India Country or Company. And as you can see, also at about the
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  same point in history in terms of distance from US, just a few years
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  difference. Here, the Dutch discovered Australia. Not that nobody knew Australia existed
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  prior to that, just that the Dutch didn't and and Western Europe didn't.
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  I'm sure it's it's fun for people to argue that, you know, obviously
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  Aboriginals did they knew. But but yeah, so you had the start of
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  the British East India Company and I have a link. Actually the link shows
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  as a link in this too to to that and the Dutch East India country
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  or company. I keep wanting to say countries because these these were rather powerful
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  entities. The Dutch East India Company had influenced a lot of Dutch exploration,
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  and the English East India Company influenced a lot of English exploration because they were
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  looking for more places to sell their shit. Right that that's basically what drove
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  a lot of expansion in the English Empire was looking for more people to sell
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  things to, looking for more territory to find resources on, and looking for
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  more ways to expand trade, like things that are not available in your home
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  country, things that are not available in other countries that you sell to,
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  and so on. This explains the accents in that part of the world.
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  As I often said, the Australian accent is three parts English to one part
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  Dutch. The New Zealand the New Zealand accent is equal parts Dutch and English,
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  and the South African excent has three parts attached to one pots English.
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  You know about Jamaicans, like, because Jamaicans it seems like it's their accent
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  is either Scottish or Irish or something like that. Well there there were Irish
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  in Jamaica, so that is that is a possibility that that it's been influenced.
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  In fact, you know, we see a lot of reference to slavery
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  in Jamaica throughout in its historical context and a lot of popular media that you
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  know, it goes back to the time period and everything. But at the
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  same time, there was a huge amount of If you were in it in
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  Ireland and you were convicted of certain types of crimes, they put you in
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  indentured servitude for that. If your parents were too poor to feed you,
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  they might sell you into indentured servitude. If you if you were out one
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  night by yourself and you didn't watch your back enough, they might clunk you
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  on the head and put you into indentured servitude against your will, kidnap you,
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  ship you across the ocean, and then say well, if you want
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  to go home, you've got to pay us. So this you got to
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  earn your your keep back and you're gonna have to work the rest of your
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  life to get that. And then about half of the people that were put
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  into indentured servitude were worked to death. So they never got their freedom back.
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  And this is differentiated from slavery by people who care about skin color basically,
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  like, there's not you know. The main difference is that they were
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  given the illusion that they could earn their freedom back, and if they were
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  really lucky, it might happen before they got old and got too old to
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  be useful to the people who kidnapped them or imprison them or so on.
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  But but yeah, so the reason that I included the East India companies was
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  this like exploration and discovery, and so there's some other possibilities in terms of
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  Australia. Uh here, let me see if I can No, I apparently
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  can't scroll with the pop up. What it says is seventeenth century Dutch East
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  India Company, which I'm not going to try to pronounce the name of because
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  I'm not good at that. But yeah, I can't. I'm looking at
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  that and I'm like, no, that Dutch is so difficult, despite how
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  close it is to English. Yeah, in certain phrases like the hibben in
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  sharia shapubi limb, but this is the yeah, it's yeah, well,
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  so it's the voc The Navigators were the first Europeans to set foot on Australia
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  soil. Although there is a strong theory that the Portuguese explorer Cristovo de Mindanza
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  I think that's correct, may have discovered Australia in fifteen twenty two, the
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  first recorded European landfall was made by the Dutch. I believe that pronounce is
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  it Wilhelm or Villain instead of William jen Zoon? Probably yeah, ye sun.
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  Yeah. So so that's that's that we aren't going to hear a lot
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  of Australia up until much later. But so after the British company is established
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  and the Dutch company is established. We have this lighter colored bar here and
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  I made it lighter colored because it's important context, but it's not as important
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  as the voting things. But for people to understand the English and Dutch East
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  India companies had this rivalry. They were hugely important to to the changes that
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  took place in where you know, where people lived, who lived where,
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  uh you know, immigration, travel and so on and trade, and they
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  had a lot of power. They were almost little governments unto themselves. They
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  would like the blackrock, yeah, and it's they were very empowered by their
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  governments to take actions, make decisions and so on, because their governments were
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  profiting from them. So the whole blurb here you have. The companies were
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  created to break into the Asian trading environment and there was quite a bit of
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  trade there and it was it was quite lucrative, and so Europe wanted to
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  have you know, their ability to profit from that, and uh there.
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  Then there's also let's see the sale of heavily text Indian commodities to the American
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  colonies was a significant cattle list for the U a non importation movement that would
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  later escalate into the Revolutionary War. So there was a lot of influence there.
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  America would be a very different place. We still might have been instead
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  of our own country. There might have been a humongous nation that stretched from
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  the Mexican border to the top of Alaska that you know, like Canada and
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  the United States might have all been one big thing with a bunch of little
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  provinces. Because if Americans hadn't revolted, then the colonies still would have gotten
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  their independence when all of the British colonies got their independence. So so this
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  was this is actually a major reason. This monopoly was a major reason why
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  the United States even exists. You should have continued manifesting your destiny and then
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  Canada wouldn't exist, and just in fucking Trudeau wouldn't exist. Yeah, so
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  you have years and years of this rivalry taking place seventeenth century. Then you
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  have in eighteen seventy four, like we're gonna skip the rest of the seventeenth
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  century because there's not I don't think I had anything else. I'm going to
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  expand this really quick just to be sure, but I don't think I had
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  anything else before the creation. I don't think I did of the French East
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  India Company. And again same thing. They wanted it on the trade.
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  So France had a bit of rough time. They had a whole bunch of
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  military conflicts that sort of went back and forth. They had some some wins
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  that turned into losses, some losses that that hit them hard. So they
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  had economic issues. No, no, I haven't been watching ten minute history
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  cartoons. Now I need to go find that. Uh, that sounds like
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  something I would like. But but yeah, like the the the the French
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  were very economically frustrated at the time. They created the French East India Company
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  as a form of like competition and to get in on this this hugely expansive
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  UH trade system, worldwide trade system that was going on. Uh. I
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  definitely need to watch that gin Bottle says, it's cool a dry Britain narrates
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  that makes everything best narrators ever. So let's see, between between seventeen fifty
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  six and seventeen sixty three, we have the Seven Years War simultaneously, uh,
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  France and Britain or at war over colonies in UH. Uh. Well,
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  this is funny. The Seven Years War in Europe and the French and
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  Indian War often get treated as one war when when we talk about it here.
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  Uh So, so there we go. I I think I even have
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  the Seven Years wore aka French and Indian War as because it was it was
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  basically one thing, one conflict fought in two fronts. But yeah, at
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  the same time as this is going on, French and and English East Indian
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  companies have their their common inflict going on. All of all of history was
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  one long war. Sometimes it was cold and sometimes it was hot. Yeah.
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  Yeah, And often when we call a war cold, it's not.
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  There's just like the killing is more hidden from the public. And then we
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  have proxy wars that happen as well, like we wouldn't have had the degree
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  of terrorism that we have in the world today from the Middle East if it
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  hadn't been for proxy wars between the United States and Russia in Afghanistan for instance,
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  that that actually set off a lot of stuff. So that if we
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  didn't if it didn't insist on importing such conflicts, either again directly through illegals
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  sorry, undocumented, or indirectly through through their ideologies as as we pump them
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  into the soft heads of university students. Ye, but yeah, we're not
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  talking about that on this show today. We'll let the universities hash that out
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  for the rest of the election year. It's just been doing. We've done
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  a few shows on immigration and illegal immigration and its relation to human trafficking and
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  in particular the trafficking of men as slaves and and of children and in particular
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  again boys. So yeah, we've we've talked about that quite a bit because
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  feminists try to make human trafficking out to be a women's issue, as if
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  it's something that men do and women experience. But both sexes are involved in
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  the in the the procurements. Yeah, both sex are involved in the organized
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  crime of human trafficking and always have been right, And both sexes are targeted
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  and always have been. So it's it's definitely not if it's a gender issue
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  at all. You know, you have to understand that the majority of risk,
• 33:23
  both in terms of the commission of the crimes and being victimized, falls
• 33:30
  on men and boys. So there you go, and and men and boys
• 33:34
  get blamed for everything. Yeah, and when and when women go free.
• 33:38
  It's the same with with any violent crime. Yeah. If if you encounter
• 33:47
  a man in the woods, you can you'd be reasonally sure he's not violent,
• 33:52
  because most violent men go to prison. If you encounter women in the
• 33:57
  woods, she could be a violent psycho path because women don't tend to go
• 34:01
  to prison, no matter how badly they lacerate a man's face because he overestiate
• 34:07
  it, overestimated her age by four years. As a story from Tuesdays,
• 34:10
  Oh my gosh. And there's bitterness I still have over the man versus bad
• 34:15
  thing. I almost almost made tonight's show about that. I saw that I
• 34:22
  was talking about that a little bit, And honestly, it's it's not just
• 34:30
  egregious in terms of the demonization of men, like the amount of dangerous that
• 34:37
  bears are even a bear that is your friend. You have tamed it,
• 34:45
  you are feeding it, you are pampering it, You're giving it treatment that
• 34:49
  a bear would never experience in the wild. It is living in the lap
• 34:52
  of luxury, and it knows you are the reason. You turn your back
• 34:57
  on it, you move the wrong way, do the wrong thing, you
• 35:00
  smell the wrong way, whatever, and you trigger its instincts. It will
• 35:04
  eat you. And feminists compared men to that, like, I can't think
• 35:13
  of any time in history where any genocide or political murder of people has been
• 35:22
  predicated by quite that level of demonization. Like all of the different genocides and
• 35:30
  everything have been about what bad people the people who were targeted were, right,
• 35:35
  they've all been, they've all been demonization on a human level. But
• 35:43
  this is beyond that. This is disgusting. You think it's bad to call
• 35:47
  someone a brood of vipers, as the apparently most famous, most racist racist
• 35:53
  in all history once said, vipers won't buy you unless you tread on them,
• 35:59
  so don't treads. There is nothing compared with comparing anyone with bears,
• 36:07
  any any kind of bear. I mean, it's even even those sun bears.
• 36:12
  The one that the ones that look like humans in costumes when they're in
• 36:16
  zoos. Yeah, people people assume because a bear is small, it's not
• 36:21
  going to attack you. Now they get spooked, much like wild dogs,
• 36:25
  much like the dogs that have been bred to be as violent as possible,
• 36:31
  certain breeds. I'm not getting into this because there's this big old divide where
• 36:37
  people it's the owners. It's always the owners. If you see what happens
• 36:40
  if they don't have owners, if they're just out there being wild in the
• 36:45
  wild. Yeah. They Dogs are very closely related to bears. It's like
• 36:51
  the difference between apes and monkeys. Yeah, they and you, and you
• 36:54
  can see it in in in the in the in their physiognomy. Bears are
• 36:59
  just giant and dogs basically, except they eat the way that pigs eat.
• 37:04
  I suppose that dogs were wild, they might as well. Bears are omnivores.
• 37:09
  But yeah, except you can feed a bear onions without killing it.
• 37:20
  It won't get like poop itself to death. But dogs will eat onions because
• 37:23
  they don't know they'll kill them, right right. They'll eat they'll eat things
• 37:27
  they shouldn't. It's just bears can handle an omnivore can handle broad variety.
• 37:32
  Bears will even eat things like stuff that's that's rotting. They're they're like humans
• 37:38
  in their diet like we eat. If you think we don't eat things that
• 37:44
  that are rotting, look up for the process of fermentation. We eat blue
• 37:50
  cheese. Well you all eat blue cheese. I'm allergic to it. I
• 37:54
  don't eat that ship by the fuck. I used to like it before I
• 38:00
  developed an allergy, but no, I can't have it. So it is
• 38:06
  just the way it is. But yeah, in any case, that all
• 38:10
  of that aside, all right, because that that that's if nothing else.
• 38:15
  You have an upcoming video on the topic, right I do. It'll be
• 38:20
  up tomorrow evening. Okay, so there's our our plug for Mike's video tomorrow
• 38:23
  evening. You gotta go look at his channel and it is linked in our
• 38:28
  low bar by the way, So there you go. But but going on
• 38:34
  with this this about the India companies, the thing to understand here is again
• 38:38
  you have now these three East India companies in competition, fueling exploration and expansion,
• 38:49
  fueling conflict in various countries, and even fueling wars, not just you
• 38:58
  know, protests against each other and diplomatic content conflict, but actual people shooting
• 39:04
  each other and stuff, and that's that's essentially what's going on at this point.
• 39:09
  So we're in the kind of the middle of the eighteenth century here,
• 39:19
  I got that right. No, this says we're still in the seventeenth century.
• 39:23
  In seventeenth and eighteenth century, so the French East India Company exists for
• 39:29
  quite some time here. Now we have to open this a little more because
• 39:31
  there's something tiny other context I'm going to point out before we actually start reading
• 39:39
  about the things the occurrences. So we have the Enlightenment, and I'm going
• 39:45
  to open the link to that because it's it's a whole page and I didn't
• 39:49
  just want to post a blurb from it. There are different sections of this,
• 39:53
  and we're just we're not going to go over the whole thing, but
• 39:57
  we're just briefly going to Did it take me to a Okay, no,
• 40:04
  it just put a bunch of stuff at the top of the page, you
• 40:06
  know it did it took me to a new page? All right? So,
• 40:13
  prior to the American Revolution, prior to all of this, the things
• 40:19
  that contributed to the evolution of voting rights in the US where in the time
• 40:23
  period when about under English common law about three percent of the population can vote
• 40:31
  under variations on the forty shilling franchise, and you have, you know,
• 40:42
  various areas have different access. I guess you can say to the parliamentaritarian system,
• 40:52
  like you don't have the ability in the United States to just like call
• 40:58
  up your representative in the in the colonies, you have to if you want
• 41:04
  to communicate with them, you either have to go overseas or you have to
• 41:08
  send mail overseas. So communication takes months and months. So that's part of
• 41:14
  this context. And as that's happening, new ideas about how people should live
• 41:23
  and how government should be involved or not involved in that are are becoming popular
• 41:31
  in various areas. And of course a lot of this came out of the
• 41:39
  tyranny that people were experiencing in the war environment that people were experiencing in Europe
• 41:47
  and in particular France, which, like I said, they've been dealing with
• 41:53
  a lot of a lot of military conflicts, they've been they've been dealing with
• 41:58
  a lot of economic frustraut. There were a lot of changes that were taking
• 42:04
  place to how the public was treated and so you had a significant amount of
• 42:13
  discontent and a significant amount of why do we have to put up with this
• 42:17
  shit? What? What? What would be better than this shit? Let's
• 42:22
  think about this, and then people writing it down and people discussing it,
• 42:29
  and these ideas coming out of it. Right, So you had ideas of
• 42:32
  liberty, ideas of self governance, ideas of greater commoner involvement in I don't
• 42:45
  know if you would call it, it wouldn't be the same thing. It's
• 42:52
  like, you got the ideas of democracy basically coming out, and ideas of
• 42:57
  libertarianism coming out, and we're not going to get into an end depth discussion
• 43:01
  about them. But at the same time as all of that was happening,
• 43:05
  you also had feminism in France, being like we talked about the evolution of
• 43:12
  proto feminism when we talked about guyacentrism dot COM's to articles, and that was
• 43:19
  going on and expanding at this time, and we will read more about that
• 43:22
  in the future because it is something that needs to be understood as well.
• 43:28
  So let's see if I had there was a blurb in here that I wanted
• 43:38
  to read and I'm pretty sure, yeah, that's the late enlightened. I
• 43:44
  wanted to go back to the early part of it, So European politics,
• 43:52
  this isn't the part that I wanted. There we go. So the Enlightenment
• 43:59
  produced numerous books, essays, inventions, scientific discoveries, laws, wars,
• 44:02
  and revolutions. So all of this was it wasn't just something that was happening
• 44:10
  in France. All of this was the discussion would start in France or nations
• 44:16
  around France, and something would get published, and the thing that was published
• 44:22
  would get sold, and again you had this huge expansion of trade throughout the
• 44:30
  areas in the world that Europe was trading with via these three trading companies,
• 44:37
  and they were all about money, and it wasn't quite the same as like
• 44:42
  modern companies do a lot more micromanagement of things. So if if you had
• 44:52
  an equivalent today, some AI in some communications system, whether it's social social
• 45:04
  media or whether it's like a web crawler, or you know, even a
• 45:09
  publishing company would go through whatever you write and if they don't like it,
• 45:15
  it just gets memory hold. But back then, all of this stuff,
• 45:21
  as long as there wasn't something openly red flagging it to people that would have
• 45:28
  suppressed it, could could fly under the radar, so that that's basically how
• 45:35
  you ended up with these ideas influencing people outside of the areas where they came
• 45:42
  about. And so the French Enlightenment is particularly influential, influential on the American
• 45:52
  Revolution, and then the American Revolution inspires the French Revolution to actually happen.
• 46:00
  Like that, it goes from an idea something that we probably could do this
• 46:07
  to look they did it. We definitely can accomplish this. So there there's
• 46:13
  another important bit of context right there, and go back there we go close
• 46:22
  tab. Meanwhile, we have the Bloodless Revolution in the UK. It's not
• 46:35
  going to show it. The call also refer to the Glorious Revolution, and
• 46:39
  this was about Catholicism if I understand it correctly, Like, this isn't something
• 46:45
  that sorry, I'm like trying to get that at to show and it's not
• 46:47
  going to This isn't something that we went over extensively in school. It was
• 46:51
  like something you had a brief mention of and blip on the radar in world
• 46:54
  history and then we move on because it wasn't really part of American history and
• 47:02
  they don't really do a good job of educating us on the world contributions to
• 47:07
  American history or America's contributions to world history until the twentieth century for some reason.
• 47:16
  But this was essentially the king of England at the time was Catholic and
• 47:30
  the supporters of a rival and I'm trying to remember the rival, and I
• 47:37
  thought I had it in here, but dude, you do just go through
• 47:46
  here. Yeah. King James two was Catholic, and of course his son
• 47:59
  was Catholic James Francis Edward Stuart, who announced or who whose elevation to the
• 48:10
  throne set off this revolution. Then of course it wasn't a fight. It
• 48:19
  wasn't a physical fight. Actually no, this wasn't the one that wanted a
• 48:25
  divorce in the king or in the church. The English Church was born.
• 48:29
  This is this is different. That was yes, yes, and and there
• 48:35
  we could talk about some of the things that he fucked up for the world.
• 48:40
  I blame the existence of welfare systems on him because he basically he went
• 48:47
  up through the organization whose charitable work was dealing with the poor in in uh
• 48:58
  England, and and then suddenly they became the responsibility of the state, and
• 49:06
  so then the state started having to fund more more majors to prevent them from
• 49:15
  being you know, homeless on the street, beggars and so on, workhouses
• 49:20
  and things like that. And then all of a sudden, the state discovered
• 49:24
  that this is an expensive prospect. So we had the first like we had
• 49:31
  this thing welfare reform in the Bush Junior era, and everybody acted like it
• 49:39
  was a new idea. But if you look up the Elizabethan poor laws that
• 49:45
  existed to deal with what happened when the poor became the responsibility of the state
• 49:52
  after the church was taken you know, taken for so much by the state.
• 50:00
  Hm, it's it was the same set of laws basically. So yeah,
• 50:06
  it's it's not new, but but yeah, so we had we had
• 50:14
  a conflict between Catholics and princes. This is going to be a thing that
• 50:16
  that you see a lot over time when we talk about Ireland, which we
• 50:22
  haven't talked a lot about that that is going to factor in immensely. I
• 50:30
  think people are pretty well aware of that. You have to wonder if this
• 50:36
  schism between between Christian denominations was a good thing or a bad thing, because
• 50:45
  in a way it's it did softened the Hegemontic influence of a once of the
• 50:58
  once all powerful church, and and and and and that's what brought the church
• 51:05
  to a point where it didn't have quite so much power over the people.
• 51:09
  Which but while that was going on, Islam was taken over the world and
• 51:17
  they became a so much more ruthless religion. But Islam suffered its first schism
• 51:24
  within the first century of its existence, between between the Sunnis and the Sheites.
• 51:30
  And and thankfully that happened, because if it didn't that, then they'd
• 51:37
  they'd already be more well dominating than they currently are. And which which leaves
• 51:44
  you with the question is should religions skim schism themselves into competing factions or should
• 51:54
  they remain a sort of singular hegemony. And it's I'm I'm tempted to treat
• 52:04
  this like the anarcho capitalist I am and say no, there should be competition.
• 52:08
  It's like the free market. Well, the thing about religion, Religion
• 52:13
  is a philosophy, right, It's a it's a belief system that you take
• 52:16
  based on on a lot of it is based on your own perspectives and attitudes,
• 52:24
  and it's it's a relationship that you have with deity and nature and so
• 52:31
  on depending on on like what the religion is. So it's it's not so
• 52:37
  much a question of whether splits are good or bad, but whether they are
• 52:45
  avoidable or inevitable, because like you really can't there there's not necessarily a morality
• 52:52
  or right or wrong to it, so much as there is. This is
• 52:55
  going to happen as people come up with new ideas and beliefs and ways to
• 53:02
  describe their relationship to the divine, into the universe and to nature, to
• 53:09
  everything, and and form ideas that have to be taken at face value because
• 53:17
  they can't necessarily be tested based on the methods available at the time and so
• 53:23
  on. You're going to have people who are going to disagree, and they're
• 53:27
  going to disagree vehemently. And when the issue of disagreement is well, if
• 53:32
  you're wrong, you go to hell when you die, and if I'm wrong,
• 53:36
  I go to hell when I die. Like, the disagreements are going
• 53:38
  to be pretty harsh. I'm sticking with I'm sticking with my answer. That
• 53:45
  should be healthy competition between religions, just like there should be healthy competitions between
• 53:51
  these corporations or businesses are indeed countries and if you look at the history of
• 53:57
  the Catholic Church and how it was run kind of like a moor or a
• 54:01
  government. You know, you've got about valid point there, like globalism is
• 54:08
  never gonna work. Well, it's it's gonna work for for for those who
• 54:14
  control it. But if there's no competition, then it's it's just like internet
• 54:21
  service providers or phone service providers. If there's only one in your area,
• 54:28
  then they don't have to give a shit about about any complaints you have about
• 54:32
  their service. They just go, fuck you. Where else are you going
• 54:36
  to go? You have to do whatever we say because you can't go anywhere
• 54:39
  else. Buck you. And that's that, you know, that's that's what's
• 54:44
  going to happen. If if globalism as we call it ever actually ever actually
• 54:50
  takes root and the whole world exists under one hegemonic fucking power, you're not
• 54:59
  going to be to say shit, not just about your service provider, but
• 55:02
  about any given service provider. Is is the worst possible thing that can happen.
• 55:09
  And I'm not saying we should all divide ourselves into tiny tribes like like
• 55:15
  was the case back in for four or five thousand years ago, But you
• 55:21
  know, as with many things, there's a middle ground where you can have
• 55:25
  things of a certain size and they needn't get any bigger than that, and
• 55:30
  that's that's why we have countries. I think that's a good middle ground where
• 55:35
  you can have a country that extends to from from coast to coast, but
• 55:39
  not from continent to continent. And I think the same goes with religion.
• 55:44
  You can you can have religions that extend from from coast to coast, but
• 55:47
  not continent to continent. Maybe I don't know. Richard Beier wants to know
• 55:54
  the difference between a government and a mafia. So my answer, my answer,
• 56:01
  yes, there is. There is one difference. The mafia doesn't pretend
• 56:07
  to have the legitimacy of public approval for all of its actions. The government
• 56:15
  does. It doesn't have it, but it does pretend, it pretends to
• 56:19
  be doing the right thing. Mafia mafia doesn't pretend to be doing the right
• 56:24
  thing. They are full on open about you know, if you go against
• 56:30
  us, we will kill you. We are in charge here because we are
• 56:31
  the biggest, the strongest, and the meanest, and there is nothing you
• 56:35
  can do about it. So there you go. They may even have a
• 56:38
  code of ethics that they go by and still will say, but yeah,
• 56:44
  we're criminals, and that's okay. Government doesn't admit to being criminal, a
• 56:49
  criminal enter enterprise, but it is. They just redefine criminal so they're not
• 56:55
  guilty of it and anyone they don't like. Yep, And in fact there's
• 57:02
  not. You know, people differentiate between government interests and corporate interests, but
• 57:12
  if you look at the border of the community that you live in, it
• 57:20
  probably refers to it as the incorporation limit. That's because your community, your
• 57:30
  city, and your state and your national government are all corporate entities. A
• 57:37
  corporate entity is a group that acts as a single unit and they have corporate
• 57:44
  economic status. Basically, corporate entity is a group that acts economically and under
• 57:52
  the law as a single unit, so they have the same structure as a
• 57:57
  corporate entity they'll have. Your mayor is your CEO of your city corporation.
• 58:06
  Your governor is your CEO of your state or province corporation. Your national executive
• 58:15
  whether it's president, prime minister, has some other name, doesn't matter.
• 58:20
  Your national executive leader is the CEO of your national corporation. In your parliamentary
• 58:28
  system, that's the board of directors and we're supposed to be the shareholders.
• 58:39
  But where government changes the corporate structure is our labor is the product, and
• 58:51
  not just our labor, but the labor of our children and our children's children
• 58:58
  and their children and their children's children. So there you go. And yes,
• 59:07
  so Richard, the government has bigger guns, so uh and and yeah,
• 59:15
  Jen Bottle says the mafia was originated out of a liquid economy as opposed
• 59:19
  to real estate slash feudalism. That is true as well. They're not land
• 59:23
  dealers and they're not so much about holdings like that, so uh yeah,
• 59:31
  that does that. There. There definitely are some structural differences, but in
• 59:38
  terms of power and how they affect the In fact, there have been times
• 59:45
  in history that where the mafia could have been said to be more beneficial to
• 59:50
  the local communities, and they were in than the government more than once.
• 59:59
  So but we won't we won't get too much into that. One last hot
• 1:00:05
  take to end it on. I think the difference between a mafia and a
• 1:00:07
  religion, Sorry, the difference between a mafia and the government is the same
• 1:00:09
  as a difference between a cult and a religion. They're not the same,
• 1:00:15
  but the same thing at different scales, which isn't the same because it's a
• 1:00:22
  different scale. There's a pathology of isolationism and boundary issues between the leadership and
• 1:00:32
  the practitioners. That makes makes a religion a cult. It differentiates between a
• 1:00:38
  religion and a cult. I would say, in that instance, it's really
• 1:00:49
  hard to apply that to government and mafia, because nobody can protect your boundaries
• 1:00:57
  against either one. The government doesn't even hold a mafia accountable because mafia is
• 1:01:02
  pretty good at infiltrating government and and vice versa. So that's kind of a
• 1:01:08
  difficult thing. Like one of the differentiating factors between a religion and a cult
• 1:01:16
  is how easy it is for you to leave. You can leave a religion,
• 1:01:22
  but leaving all of them, some of them will kill you, all
• 1:01:30
  right, That that to me is cult behavior. But yeah, you can.
• 1:01:36
  You can move away from a religion. You can you can reject a
• 1:01:42
  religion. You can choose not to believe. You can be nonpracticing in some
• 1:01:45
  religions, like I get. I hear people say they're non practicing Catholic all
• 1:01:50
  the time. Not quite sure what that means, but but yeah, and
• 1:01:55
  unless you start coming out in bad mouthing Islam. A lot of people that
• 1:02:00
  do leave Islam, they just leave. They don't have this issue of the
• 1:02:07
  cult coming after them. So I'm still alive, Yeah after all these years.
• 1:02:15
  Yep. But but yeah, people there because because you're in the country
• 1:02:20
  where you're you're allowed to do that. That's that's the whole point of having
• 1:02:24
  this healthy competition between countries. If you if you don't like, if you
• 1:02:29
  don't like your country and you don't like your leave to another one. This
• 1:02:32
  is this is not an option. If if the if the globalists, sorry
• 1:02:39
  to sound like alec Alex jokes, but if the globalists get their way,
• 1:02:44
  there's no this thing as escape. There's no such thing as competition between between
• 1:02:49
  different countries. Are indeed different faiths where you where you can leave one and
• 1:02:53
  go to another one that isn't going to kill you. Well. The other
• 1:02:58
  thing is in terms of religion versus theocracy, which again these are these are
• 1:03:07
  not necessarily entirely separate things, but they are separate in that you can have
• 1:03:13
  one without the other, and it can go both ways. You can have
• 1:03:17
  a theocracy without actual belief in faith. You just have to have obedience.
• 1:03:23
  Right, So religion doesn't have the power in and of itself to prevent you
• 1:03:32
  from leaving. Theocracy, on the other hand, creates a situation where the
• 1:03:39
  entity that is allowed to use force to make you do what it wants is
• 1:03:47
  in charge of the local religion you know, in its area, and you
• 1:03:53
  will do as as you're told in terms of religion. And it's one of
• 1:04:00
  the reasons why the United States has that we refer to it as the Separation
• 1:04:08
  of Church and State. The words separation and church and state are not part
• 1:04:13
  of the amendment that separates the two entities. That it states that the state
• 1:04:19
  isn't allowed to establish or run the church or a church, and no church
• 1:04:27
  is allowed to run the state. And that keeps tyranny from coming from a
• 1:04:34
  religious outlook, and it prevents people who have a different religious outlook from being
• 1:04:43
  persecuted for not believing in the religious outlook of one group. And we're currently
• 1:04:49
  butting up against failure to uphold that. In terms of the religious aspects of
• 1:04:56
  environmentalism, a lot of what used to be referred to as deep ecology and
• 1:05:03
  the modern environmentalist movement, the global warming movement and everything, a lot of
• 1:05:09
  the beliefs in regard to that are taken on faith and not on They're not
• 1:05:18
  rigorously questioned and not challenged in the scientific community, and we are seeing laws
• 1:05:28
  passed and conditions imposed on the public on the basis of those belief systems.
• 1:05:36
  Now, I'm not saying that there is no merit to environmentalism or that there
• 1:05:45
  is no merit to examining the concept of global warming and trying to figure out
• 1:05:50
  what community actions should canon should be taken. What I am saying is that
• 1:05:57
  treating it like a religion is not a wise way to go, and it's
• 1:06:00
  not going to effectively address the situation. It's going to prevent people from evaluating
• 1:06:11
  properly what is needed and what should be done. Yeah, Albert Nada retro
• 1:06:17
  says, nonpracticing means you don't go to church. Yeah, I'm aware,
• 1:06:21
  it's just if you're if you're not practicing the religion. I so, in
• 1:06:30
  his context, I have a past generation family member who was Irish Catholic and
• 1:06:42
  was excommunicated from the church so he couldn't practice, And because he was excommunicated,
• 1:06:49
  he believed wholeheartedly, like absolutely, unquestioningly that when he died he was
• 1:06:59
  going to go to How well, and there was nothing he could do about
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  it. He could not be saved. And there's a set of requirements that
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  you are like rituals that you are expected to do as part of that particular
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  denomination, that your relationship with God relies on maintaining those. You don't just
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  ask for forgiveness when you send. You have penance that you have to do
• 1:07:32
  and so on. And I'm aware of it because I have family that's Catholic,
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  and my understanding is that if you don't do those things, you're not
• 1:07:42
  right with God. So if you believe what you're taught in that church and
• 1:07:50
  you're nonpracticing, that seems kind of it doesn't make sense to me. Now,
• 1:07:59
  I'm not Catholic. I wasn't raised in the Catholic Church. I attended
• 1:08:02
  with friends sometimes it was very different from the church that I went to growing
• 1:08:08
  up my childhood. Denomination is called Christian Union. It's an offshoot of the
• 1:08:15
  Baptist Church, and I guess their fight with the Baptist Church was over whether
• 1:08:20
  or not you are technically saved before you get baptized, like the processes,
• 1:08:30
  you make this agreement with God that you're going to follow the teachings of Jesus,
• 1:08:34
  and that you believe everything that the Bible says about who Jesus is and
• 1:08:40
  what he stands for, and what you know the relationship that you have with
• 1:08:43
  God is and all that. Right you make that agreement, you've accepted that,
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  and your life is now changed. You're going to go going forward.
• 1:08:50
  You're going to use that as the guide for your behavior toward other people and
• 1:08:56
  how you live in the world. And that is supposed to be the salvation,
• 1:09:00
  and then the baptism is supposed to be you announcing that you have been
• 1:09:08
  saved and cementing. It's like the handshake. So the Baptist Church doesn't think
• 1:09:15
  the contract is signed if you didn't if you didn't shake hands, right,
• 1:09:20
  if you didn't have your baptism, whereas the Christian Union Church considers the contract
• 1:09:27
  is signed when you make that agreement, because you everything that's in your heart,
• 1:09:36
  everything that's in your mind, is known to God. And so once
• 1:09:41
  you make that decision, you've already sealed the deal, so to speak,
• 1:09:45
  and then you don't need to Like, it doesn't say that you don't need
• 1:09:48
  to be baptized. It says that you're you know, like if you go
• 1:09:53
  from where you get saved to where you get baptized, and you get into
• 1:09:57
  a car accident and die on the way, you don't go to Hell because
• 1:10:00
  you fail to have the baptism. That's to me, I think that's kind
• 1:10:05
  of an irrelevant fight. It's it's missing the point, and it sometimes bugs
• 1:10:15
  me that so many denominations exist over such small issues. So like I I
• 1:10:26
  just I don't consider myself denominational event like I don't if I like the way
• 1:10:31
  a church is, if I go in and it feels like, uh,
• 1:10:36
  it's a place of uh love and care and everything that I'm hearing matches up
• 1:10:45
  with what I've read in the Bible, then it's a good church. And
• 1:10:48
  if I go in and people seem like they're nervous and scared and uh they're
• 1:10:53
  only there because they think they have to be, then it's not a good
• 1:10:56
  church, and I don't want to go back. That's that's pretty much the
• 1:10:59
  way I do with it. So like, in terms of all that conflict,
• 1:11:03
  the main thing that I would say is that I like the concept of
• 1:11:10
  a separation of church and state, and I think the United States needs to
• 1:11:14
  do a better job at practicing it. I, for one, belief in
• 1:11:20
  a higher power. I have encountered it several times, but I don't know
• 1:11:28
  what it is. I don't know its nature. And I'm reasonably sure that
• 1:11:33
  it's out there because, like I say, I've been in certain states where
• 1:11:39
  it has spoken to me. I haven't spoken to it because you can't speak
• 1:11:44
  to it. All you can do is listen. And I don't require any
• 1:11:50
  religion to write a book telling me about its nature, because that's not how
• 1:11:56
  it works. Humans can't write down a book where they can say for sure
• 1:12:01
  what that higher power is. Certainly not what the name of that higher power
• 1:12:05
  is. It doesn't have a name. It is unnameable in the language of
• 1:12:14
  mere organisms like us. It's out there and we do not possess the capacity
• 1:12:23
  to even give it a name, let alone prescribe its nature. And I'm
• 1:12:32
  and I'm fine with that. I'm fine with anyone else revering that higher power.
• 1:12:42
  I I just don't think any human or any collection of humans has the
• 1:12:46
  wherewithal to tell anyone else what it is, or name what it is,
• 1:12:53
  or tell anyone else what it wants. But it's out there. Oh hell,
• 1:12:58
  yes, it's out there. And you you know, it's important that
• 1:13:01
  we rever it as we see as we see fit. I guess I'll leave
• 1:13:08
  it there. Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those things where differences
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  in people's outlooks on it, and how we react to those differences, and
• 1:13:25
  how the law can warp how react we react to those differences means that,
• 1:13:31
  in turn, in the context of human rights discussion, the most important thing
• 1:13:38
  is recognizing that it is not the place of a state to interfere with people's
• 1:13:45
  relationship with the divine, the higher power, whether you call it, consider
• 1:13:51
  it dedy, whether you think of it as an intelligence, you know,
• 1:13:57
  anything, from uh it being a separate being from from us to actually the
• 1:14:03
  simulation is that we are all living in God's mind and each of us is
• 1:14:09
  just a thought not spelled T H O T, and we're hey provoking those
• 1:14:15
  thoughts. Yes, so like it's it's not it's not a matter of whether
• 1:14:25
  there should be differences or not. It's a matter of differences are inevitable,
• 1:14:30
  and it's a human rights abuse for the state to or fail to recognize that
• 1:14:35
  and try to make it take control over it. This is why we separate
• 1:14:42
  these things, or rather while yours. While y'all separate these things with a
• 1:14:46
  first Amendment of which I, for one am envious. I wish the constitution
• 1:14:54
  of my own beautiful country had such an amendment to our own apparent constitution that
• 1:14:59
  can separate such things. That's why, that's why I have dreams of moving
• 1:15:05
  to y'all's precious country one day. I just hope we get it fixed.
• 1:15:11
  We've got a rift right now in the country that's threatening, threatening to eat
• 1:15:14
  the whole place. Albert Nida Retro gave us two dollars Canadian and said,
• 1:15:18
  when they turn in the kiddy grabbers all go. And that point, well,
• 1:15:23
  I'm gonna say, is another vital aspect of the importance of not allowing
• 1:15:31
  the church to use the state as its weapon. If it has that much
• 1:15:39
  power, then when things like that happen, you have no recourse. And
• 1:15:47
  well, I'm at it since I'm reading these. Meredith g gave us five
• 1:15:51
  dollars and said, HBr talked three oh seven, Honey for the Badgers,
• 1:15:56
  thanks for the thought provoking discussion, and Sleepy AUSSI gave us five dollars,
• 1:16:00
  insaid I want all of you, Honey Badgers, to know you are full
• 1:16:02
  of shit. Good shit that is that is, so keep it up.
• 1:16:08
  We have the good shit. So so yeah, the religious conflict, they're
• 1:16:14
  Catholic and Protestant. One of the early revolutions that we'll talk about, and
• 1:16:23
  we're not going to get in depth into that revolution other than to point out
• 1:16:26
  that this happened, and it did put monarchy on notice at the time that
• 1:16:33
  it happened. It's not the only one. We've We've talked about other changes
• 1:16:40
  to monarchy to government. So now in that context that has happened, we
• 1:16:45
  have the the India companies are still active and there is still the rivalry taking
• 1:16:50
  place. We have the Irish Catholic disenfranchisement. This is one of the early
• 1:16:58
  changes. And we're not going to talk about Ireland a lot in this timeline
• 1:17:03
  right now because I'm going to go back and there's there's a whole bunch of
• 1:17:06
  stuff to discuss about Ireland because a lot changed. But I will point out
• 1:17:16
  there were laws. This was again you know, this is in some ways
• 1:17:23
  for me as an American, this is pre context for the formation of the
• 1:17:27
  separation of church of church and state. History on these islands knows that there's
• 1:17:31
  there's we like to talk about Irish blood or Scottish blood or English blood.
• 1:17:36
  There's no difference in our fucking blood like like. Like I said in a
• 1:17:41
  previous episode, we've been running anti clockwise around these islands for thousands of years.
• 1:17:45
  We're all the same people. There's minor cultural differences, but yeah,
• 1:17:51
  genetically we're practically clones of each other. Yep. So here's where remember I
• 1:18:00
  talked about I spent a lot of time looking for exact dates. The start
• 1:18:04
  date on this one is not exact because I could not find a date of
• 1:18:09
  royal assent for the first of the Irish penal laws, and Albert Nada retro
• 1:18:15
  gave us two dollars and said, going, I broke the internet. No.
• 1:18:23
  I think though, that we may have hit the end of the lifespan
• 1:18:30
  of our our equipment. I think we've had the same equipment here for quite
• 1:18:38
  a while, and for our internet service provider, we may have to contact
• 1:18:45
  them and see if we can get new equipment, because I'm thinking what we
• 1:18:51
  have might actually be more than five years old, which is pretty old for
• 1:18:58
  electronic stuff, especially especially this kind of stuff. So I don't know that
• 1:19:05
  might be the issue. We had problems yesterday too with our internet service.
• 1:19:12
  So I know it's not the computer because I restarted that this morning. But
• 1:19:20
  so back to the Irish Catholic disenfranchisement. This is again lack of separation of
• 1:19:31
  power between the church and state. When we talk about separation of church and
• 1:19:35
  state, we are talking about separation of power. The church isn't barred from
• 1:19:44
  being touched by the state, and the state isn't barred from being touched by
• 1:19:49
  the church. If you know, somebody in Congress says a prayer before they
• 1:19:58
  make a decision in their head, before they make a decision, they're not
• 1:20:02
  violating the separation of church and state. Right Just like if the people that
• 1:20:09
  are accused of demon worship in our Congress here in the United States do a
• 1:20:15
  ritual before they go in and do their job, and that's their guide or
• 1:20:23
  whatever, or they want they think that it gives them some level of power
• 1:20:27
  or whatever, they're not violating the principle of separation of church and state.
• 1:20:30
  But if they tell you that you have to participate, or if they decide
• 1:20:34
  that laws have to be passed so that you have to follow their religious practices.
• 1:20:42
  For instance, some religions prohibit the consumption of alcohol, and other religions
• 1:20:47
  require the consumption of alcohol at some times, which one should have the power
• 1:20:55
  in the state to tell people that you have to follow their religious tenets and
• 1:20:59
  belief right. So that's that's where the separation is. This the church is
• 1:21:08
  not allowed to use the power of the state to make you practice the church's
• 1:21:13
  religion, and the state is not allowed to kill the church or choose which
• 1:21:20
  church the country is run by. Like that, there should not be a
• 1:21:27
  church running the country. Albert Nada Retro gave us two dollars and said the
• 1:21:34
  TVA found us the badger versus two. Yes, that is that is what
• 1:21:39
  happened. I'm going with that story. They came along and tried to try
• 1:21:43
  to get rid of me. So there's a whole series of acts here.
• 1:21:47
  I'm not going to get into all of them. But among other things,
• 1:21:56
  they couldn't vote, they couldn't hold office, they they there was actually a
• 1:22:02
  law passed to restrain foreign education, and then after the onset of the French
• 1:22:15
  Revolution, the government pressured the Irish Parliament to pass legislation extending the right to
• 1:22:26
  vote to Catholics. It's like these people might get pissed enough to be violent.
• 1:22:31
  So we have to at what point in Irish history, Well, Catholics
• 1:22:36
  not allowed to vote, That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, from seventeen
• 1:22:42
  twenty seven to seventeen ninety three, Ireland's always been Catholic, no predominantly,
• 1:22:50
  No, no, no, no, Irish Ireland hasn't even always been Christian.
• 1:22:57
  Well for a bloody long time it has. Yeah, yeah, for
• 1:23:00
  for a long time it has. But no, there's a there's a whole
• 1:23:04
  conflict, historical conflict. Before Ireland became Christian and everything there there was there's
• 1:23:14
  a whole headbutting between the old religions and and the new religion. So and
• 1:23:21
  then you had when Catholicism took over. Uh, it took over hard.
• 1:23:30
  But at the same time, when England took over, it took over hard
• 1:23:33
  as well. And the the conflict between Protestants and Catholics in England had a
• 1:23:44
  profound effect on the politics of Ireland because of the English dominance of Ireland.
• 1:23:49
  So this is all the law that was that came out of that. But
• 1:23:57
  I have some links. So once once the timeline becomes publicly available, people
• 1:24:03
  will be able to go and read more about this disenfranchisement. What was interesting
• 1:24:12
  to me and the point of me putting it on here this early before going
• 1:24:16
  over. You know, here's how voting rights in Ireland evolved over time.
• 1:24:23
  We're still in the forty shilling franchise, but at the same time we now
• 1:24:30
  have an entire religion being just barred from voting, and that actually took out
• 1:24:35
  most of the potential voters in Ireland. So a tiny, tiny percent of
• 1:24:45
  people even had voting rights at all, even smaller than anywhere else in Ireland.
• 1:24:56
  You could basically say that Ireland was disenfranchised by this. Albert hyterretro to
• 1:25:04
  gave us two dollars Canadian said, ha celts butting heads Irish hah yep.
• 1:25:12
  Well, I mean it's not like, you know, we're stubborn people or
• 1:25:15
  anything. Masters are pretty fucking stubborn. That's why I'm not dead. Then
• 1:25:27
  we have we will go up to we're still at three hundred and seventeen years
• 1:25:31
  ago from today or from right now, So May first, seventeen oh seventy
• 1:25:36
  Acts of Union between the UK and Scotland take effect and we'll open that up.
• 1:25:44
  Just there will be a brief discussion here or brief description here. All
• 1:25:49
  right, this is all stuff that's taking place prior to the American Revolution,
• 1:25:57
  prior to the French Revolution and so on. So this is Encyclopedia Britannica.
• 1:26:04
  I rely on this a couple of times. It's not my favorite thing to
• 1:26:09
  rely on, but it has sometimes it has the most rounded, briefly described
• 1:26:15
  information, and that's I think that's what I chose it for here, because
• 1:26:21
  the English Parliamentary website has statements on this as well. But this is when
• 1:26:32
  England and Scotland basically came under the same monarch and therefore came under the same
• 1:26:41
  rule. This was after the Glorious Revolution, and there were efforts at unifying
• 1:26:49
  the country the two countries before this that didn't go well. I mean,
• 1:26:59
  they went reasonably well until quite there were and they're still going that. The
• 1:27:05
  SMP is a party that exists entirely for the sake of Scottish independence. And
• 1:27:13
  even though everyone's voted for them, everyone in Scotland has voted for them ever
• 1:27:16
  since, they still haven't succeeded in the separating Scotland from the UK, and
• 1:27:23
  I think it's because deep down they know that they'd be fucked if they did
• 1:27:27
  well. This is before the part where they went reasonably well. This is
• 1:27:30
  this is the start of where they went reasonably well. But prior to that
• 1:27:34
  you had a short period of time where Parliament was trying to orchestrate it,
• 1:27:43
  trying to settle on the logistics of it, and it wasn't happening. And
• 1:27:47
  then all of a sudden there was just one monarch between the two countries,
• 1:27:51
  and not a King of England and a King of Scotland or Queen of England
• 1:27:57
  and king or king and Queen, you know, vice versa. There was
• 1:28:00
  just one. For those who don't know, I know, geographically on a
• 1:28:04
  map it looks like Scotland is almost as big as England, and geographically it
• 1:28:11
  is, but most of Scotland is wasteland. It's much like the whole Rocky
• 1:28:16
  Mountain area of the US. It's unlivable most of Scotland. And that's why
• 1:28:25
  the population of Scotland is I think five million and the population of England is
• 1:28:31
  fifty five million. And that ratio has persisted throughout the history of both nations.
• 1:28:40
  So although it looks like they're comparable nations in terms of population, they
• 1:28:45
  never have been. Like there are English counties that have a higher population than
• 1:28:53
  all of Scotland. There are cities in the United States that have the higher
• 1:28:58
  population than all of Scotland. Actually there are multiple cities. They're they're that's
• 1:29:04
  so tiny. But then again, like we're talking about a much larger area
• 1:29:12
  of land. There are states in in in the United States that are bigger
• 1:29:16
  than the entire United Kingdom, so larger land masses than the entire United Kingdom.
• 1:29:27
  So there, there you go. But yeah, I'm not going to
• 1:29:33
  get into the whole discussion here other than what i've what I've said basically,
• 1:29:39
  like there was the the two countries were trying to unify when they got down
• 1:29:45
  to two point where there was one monarch and not a separate monarchy between the
• 1:29:53
  two countries, and uh, and that pretty much created a circumstance of well,
• 1:30:00
  now we have to and and then they then they got it figured out.
• 1:30:06
  Senior sticks gave us two dollars and said, waste lends can be quite
• 1:30:10
  nice with a disco bar. That's that's basically Las Vegas. Yeah, exactly,
• 1:30:23
  there you go. It's a good place. It's a good place to
• 1:30:25
  escape to if you're no longer interested in civilization and you just want to talk
• 1:30:30
  to people over the Internet. But conversely, they have bad internet out in
• 1:30:34
  the wastelands. So there's this there's this balance of if you want to get
• 1:30:42
  away from cities as far as possible, but you also want good internet access,
• 1:30:46
  you have to find this balance to find this halfway point. Well,
• 1:30:51
  you don't have to deal with cities, but you still have good internet.
• 1:30:55
  That's what I'm that's what we're all looking for. There we go, all
• 1:31:00
  right, So now in the context of things that are still happening at this
• 1:31:04
  point, right the Irish Catholic disenfranchisement is going on. There has been this
• 1:31:12
  active union between the UK and Scotland. The East India companies British and Dutch
• 1:31:21
  are still duking it out. The French East India company is still competing.
• 1:31:30
  The Enlightenment is still in progress. We have the Boston massacre in the United
• 1:31:36
  States and the colonies. So this is out and I guess my dang it
• 1:31:46
  all. My input on that was I must accidentally deleted it. So let's
• 1:31:54
  see if I can. It's because I have an extra thing here that doesn't
• 1:32:00
  belong here. I'm thinking this isn't the wrong spot because that's not right the
• 1:32:03
  right time period. We have the Seven Years War, So I'll have to
• 1:32:06
  get rid of that. I think I can. I'll edit that tonight,
• 1:32:14
  like wait a minute, yeah, because that's seventeen thirty five. That's not
• 1:32:16
  the right spot. Okay, So we have the Seven Years War takes place,
• 1:32:21
  opening that up. So we have the North American conflict, and then
• 1:32:26
  there's also the conflict in Europe. And during this conflict you had the United
• 1:32:38
  there. You had I don't know that it was called the United Kingdom yet,
• 1:32:45
  but you had Great Britain and France were fighting over a whole set of
• 1:32:48
  issues, including Canada, the territories in Canada. So this began in seventeen
• 1:32:58
  fifty four, ended with a Treaty of Paris in seventeen sixty three. And
• 1:33:04
  one of the things that came out of this treaty was that France was like,
• 1:33:12
  all right, we're going to be hands off the Canadian territories. They're
• 1:33:15
  yours. We're not We're not laying any more claim to those formally seeded New
• 1:33:23
  France to the British. So oops, I don't want to select that.
• 1:33:30
  I want to scroll up and see if I can make it visible. I
• 1:33:33
  can't really. Seven Years War was a crucial turning point in Canadian history.
• 1:33:38
  With the Treaty of Paris in seventeen sixty three, France formally seeded New France
• 1:33:42
  to British, to the British and largely withdrew from the continent. The Seven
• 1:33:46
  Years War therefore laid the bicultural foundations of modern Canada, and of course gave
• 1:33:55
  Britain great territorial gains in the process. But Britain wanted the colonies to essentially
• 1:34:08
  pay for the war, and this this did not go well. So we
• 1:34:15
  have the Stamp Act. This was seventeen sixty five, and I thought I
• 1:34:25
  had a Lincoln here for this as well. I mean, hopefully I haven't
• 1:34:28
  like created duplicates more than once. Here. Let's see if it's up here
• 1:34:34
  as well. Yeah. Proclamation of seventeen sixty three Britain's victory over France in
• 1:34:45
  the Seven Years War. The first thing that Britain did was established three to
• 1:34:59
  mainland colleg started establishing What are we looking at here? I saw my name
• 1:35:10
  in the chat and I'm like, what's going on? Is it is?
• 1:35:12
  It is shutting again? But no, it's it's just ego bolstering. Thank
• 1:35:19
  you l M I h K. But yeah, So among other things that
• 1:35:35
  happened, land was given to soldiers that that fought in the wars, banned
• 1:35:42
  settlement west of the Appalachian Mountains, seated a large part of what is currently
• 1:35:50
  the United States to what is currently Canada, making it part of territory.
• 1:35:58
  I believe that was all labeled Quebec. We have there we go the Sugar
• 1:36:10
  Act, which reduced but began enforcing existing taxes. So the taxes were higher
• 1:36:16
  before, but they weren't really forcing people to pay them. When they started
• 1:36:20
  forcing people to pay them, they beefed up the navy in the colonies,
• 1:36:25
  and the the colonies then had reduced ability to trade in several areas because of
• 1:36:34
  these taxes. So that that happened, like this is the stuff all happened
• 1:36:41
  in rapid succession. Right after Parliament takes control of the colonial currency system.
• 1:36:47
  There are other currencies in use in the colonies now they are of no value
• 1:36:54
  basically, and it creates a situation where the colonies, which already have a
• 1:37:00
  trade deficit with the mainland, are now unable to catch up. And uh.
• 1:37:09
  And then the other thing was they passed a guilty until proven innocent standard
• 1:37:14
  for for suspected smugglers, and they imposed juryless courts. So it made it
• 1:37:21
  if you were accused of smuggling, you you were essentially jailed for smuggling or
• 1:37:29
  you know, or worse. Because again, back then, during that time
• 1:37:32
  point in time, if you were arrested for a crime, you could be
• 1:37:40
  just simply forced into indentured servitude and uh and not just put into a prison
• 1:37:49
  for a while. So this, this was this was not just a minor
• 1:37:57
  like you know face even today, you know, being falsely accused of a
• 1:38:01
  misdemeanor and railroaded, you know, traffic offenses. For instance, cop says
• 1:38:09
  you're speeding. You know you weren't speeding, but you can't prove it.
• 1:38:14
  The cop his testimony counts as proof. It doesn't sound like a big deal
• 1:38:21
  until you look at some people's insurance goes up if they get one speeding ticket.
• 1:38:28
  Some people's job can be affected if they get one ticket. Right,
• 1:38:36
  So like there are some things where it's a bigger deal. Oh and he
• 1:38:43
  didn't explain the the Stamp Act actually was passed to help pay for the troops
• 1:38:51
  being stationed in the colonies during the war, it required the colonies. The
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  colonists had to pay at tax represented by like they had a stamp that they
• 1:39:03
  put on different different things that were necessary, different forms, different documents and
• 1:39:13
  papers that you had to have or some other types of merchandise. So it
• 1:39:17
  was a tax, and the tax was traced and documented by a by the
• 1:39:28
  stamp, right, and so that you had these things that had been taking
• 1:39:32
  place all in this one one little short stretch of time. All each each
• 1:39:40
  time these things happened, the colonists got more and more squeezed by this,
• 1:39:46
  and more and more pissed off by this. Really so, Tyler Preston says
• 1:39:55
  he's banned from chatting on the YouTube chat did we That definitely wasn't something I
• 1:40:00
  did, And I don't know how to fix it. That's that's not right.
• 1:40:10
  If somebody does know how to fix this, like that probably needs to
• 1:40:15
  be done otherwise I'll have to figure out, not during a show, how
• 1:40:20
  to how to do that. I just don't bother with YouTube go to rumble.
• 1:40:30
  Yeah, we definitely are. Our rumble stream did not go down.
• 1:40:34
  In our rumble stream. It did slow down, I guess, But yeah,
• 1:40:41
  it seems to be. It seems to be going strong, so it's
• 1:40:45
  not the first time this happening. I wonder if YouTube's doing it. I've
• 1:40:53
  had some people that I've had a white list to make comments. We had
• 1:40:59
  a com had some commenters that had they would link to our content in their
• 1:41:08
  news letter, and their newsletter had men's issue stuff and other stuff, and
• 1:41:16
  they would post a link to the newsletter in the chat so we could see
• 1:41:23
  that, you know, or in the comment section so we could see,
• 1:41:26
  you know, the newsletter, what all was in it and everything, and
• 1:41:29
  then of course we're in there as well. And YouTube decided that those were
• 1:41:32
  spam links for some reason, and I had to whitelist the individual so that
• 1:41:38
  we actually could still have access to that. And YouTube has always suppressed men's
• 1:41:45
  issues content, dating back all the way to ten years. They're still doing
• 1:41:50
  it with the new kids on the block, the ones I won't name,
• 1:41:56
  the ones you'll are all can complaining about Bex the last who who Brian has
• 1:42:03
  interviewed a couple of times and did a fireside chat with last week. She
• 1:42:10
  recently dropped an update on this situation, where apparently the DHSS has been redirecting
• 1:42:20
  people away from that content as well. Oh redirecting, Oh that's terrible.
• 1:42:28
  At least they haven't they fucking forced you to lose subscribers every time you publish.
• 1:42:34
  But that's that's what's been going on for a long time. YouTube is
• 1:42:40
  run by a bunch of miss andric communists. I don't know why you're still
• 1:42:45
  listening to us on YouTube. It sucks. Go to Rumble, go to
• 1:42:50
  Bits, go to fucking Odyssey, go to anywhere but YouTube. It's awful.
• 1:42:56
  It's a black hole of of nonsense that will not allow you to speak
• 1:43:05
  out against feminism or any other kind of Marxism. It's awful. Why are
• 1:43:13
  you here? I see a bunch of you still here. I thank you
• 1:43:17
  for giving us traffic, but why aren't Why aren't you on Rumble of bitch?
• 1:43:24
  You go go now? Do it now? Well we're While we're at
• 1:43:36
  it, Richard Beer gave us five dollars and said, so is your analysis
• 1:43:41
  of this timeline going to be a version of the website shows the entire solar
• 1:43:46
  system to scale, with the moon being represented by a single pixel and the
• 1:43:49
  new scroll sideways to observe the scale of distance. It's probably gonna look like
• 1:43:55
  that as I'm going through it, because there's a lot of information on this
• 1:43:58
  timeline already and I'm gonna continue adding stuff to it as we go, so
• 1:44:01
  you might see me going back and forth and time in the future, I
• 1:44:05
  might get as confusing as as a sci fi novel. But you know,
• 1:44:15
  it's not all bad. It seems like, if we want to understand the
• 1:44:25
  discussion about voting rights, women's voting rights, blaming patriarchy for the separate pathways
• 1:44:35
  of suffrage between men and women, and treating women like they were uniquely oppressed
• 1:44:44
  by disenfranchisement, we really ought to understand the historical context in which that discussion
• 1:44:50
  is happening. And that's mainly the reason why I'm doing this. So it's
• 1:44:56
  gonna be a little chaotic, partly because, like I said, nailing down
• 1:45:01
  information on the Internet that has contributed to my understanding of this it takes a
• 1:45:08
  lot of time. Google is already, you know, we know that's not
• 1:45:14
  a great search engine, but none of the other search engines are completely independent
• 1:45:18
  of it, and none of them have the extensive well web crawling capacity that
• 1:45:27
  Google has. So I'm kind of going back and forth between Google Brave.
• 1:45:33
  Brave has a search engine being Duck duc go and occasionally Yahoo trying to find
• 1:45:45
  you know, something that will give me a day instead of a year,
• 1:45:49
  or a vague reference or you know, stuff like that, and uh,
• 1:45:55
  cross referencing sometimes just to make sure that a particular solse isn't making ship up
• 1:46:02
  or looking at shit from only one angle when there should be a broader view
• 1:46:11
  of it. I ask, jeez, I forgot that even exists. I
• 1:46:15
  wonder if it's still around. I'll have to check. But yeah, this
• 1:46:23
  is the original topic, Richard. We we got started with. Yeah,
• 1:46:30
  yeah, this was this. This We've been going back and forth on this
• 1:46:33
  original topic as part I started it as part of Women's History Month in March.
• 1:46:43
  But when I got into discussing this it, I ended up realizing,
• 1:46:47
  you know, we really have to nail down some of the history because there
• 1:46:51
  were some comments that we were getting back and forth, and I got comments
• 1:46:57
  off of, you know, outside of the actual stream, from people that
• 1:47:02
  are that I got accused of being misogynistic, for instance, for pointing out
• 1:47:10
  that historically women could vote under the legal system. Patriarchy supposedly that we have
• 1:47:21
  been told throughout history didn't allow women to vote under the forty shilling franchise,
• 1:47:29
  there were female voters, and we demonstrated that in a previous episode. Somebody
• 1:47:39
  contacted me on Twitter and gave me this nice little rant about how misogynistic I
• 1:47:45
  am for denying female history, Like this is documented history. There was documentation
• 1:47:53
  of these female voters. They were on voter rolls. This wasn't something that
• 1:47:59
  I made up. The news articles about this and everything, the documents actually
• 1:48:05
  have been published online and discussed online. And so like, just getting into
• 1:48:13
  that, I realized, we can't have the debate women should or shouldn't vote.
• 1:48:19
  We can't have the debate debate women are are or are not historically and
• 1:48:26
  historically oppressed population because of the evolution of suffrage without a history lesson, because
• 1:48:35
  people don't understand this history. So when when y'all talk to people about this,
• 1:48:43
  I know I'm going detailed by detail here, but when you look at
• 1:48:50
  the issue itself, all of those factors into that discussion, how are women
• 1:48:56
  oppressed by this? Right? How are women oppressed by this? The evolution
• 1:49:00
  of voting not focusing on women, So we focus on black people and we
• 1:49:09
  create black history. Man, we focus on gay people and we create Gay
• 1:49:15
  Month. We focus on trans people and anything that we can grasp back because
• 1:49:20
  women have done so much fucking nothing of history. And I'm not true.
• 1:49:30
  This is I mean, it's not even anything to do with women or or
• 1:49:33
  dog blacks or gay is. It's fucking communism. It's fucking like a phobia.
• 1:49:41
  It's fucking let's let's take the attention away from any of the people who
• 1:49:45
  have actually dare I say, progressed from from history to the future because we
• 1:49:53
  can't we we we can't keep paying any attention to the people who have actually
• 1:50:01
  taken us from the dark ages to the to the modern ages where we have
• 1:50:05
  all of these privileges. None of the people who have given us this are
• 1:50:13
  to be celebrated. They can only have had the power to give us all
• 1:50:19
  these privileges because of privilege or something right, And yeah, it's it's it's
• 1:50:31
  it's all just various itsuations of communism that the people who actually help are not
• 1:50:38
  helping, and the people who have actually not helped we need to thrust into
• 1:50:45
  the public eye so that they can help instead of not helping that they ever
• 1:50:49
  have And I know that sounds. I don't give a fuck how that sounds
• 1:50:55
  fuck you yeah when you think about it. One of the things that we
• 1:51:00
  are revealing here, and we're revealing it over and over again, despite the
• 1:51:05
  fact that women had the physical strength to do not just work, but heavy
• 1:51:14
  work, to fight, right to be side by side with men in the
• 1:51:23
  history of making changes to the relationship between the general population and its governing bodies
• 1:51:33
  that are made up of people in positions of economic privilege and people who had,
• 1:51:43
  like I doubt that the evolution of government, you know, came out
• 1:51:50
  of nowhere, right, These are people that had the the strength and determination
• 1:51:57
  to gain a position of leadership at some point, right, whether it's an
• 1:52:01
  ancestor or whether it was continually having to be re established, that system existed
• 1:52:10
  because some people were capable of gaining the level of following that would allow them
• 1:52:16
  to dominate a larger swatch of population or gaining the trust of the larger swatch
• 1:52:24
  of population for a period of time, and then you end up having,
• 1:52:29
  you know, the whole system lasting pretty much forever at this point. But
• 1:52:38
  all of that, all of that, the actual legwork, the backbreaking labor,
• 1:52:44
  the risk taking, the fighting that took place to hash it out and
• 1:52:51
  settle this is the way we're going to do things at this point in history,
• 1:52:55
  and so on. That was almost entirely, almost exclusive lee done by
• 1:53:00
  men. You would find a woman here or there that did something like acting
• 1:53:05
  as a spy, or if I remember right, there was one that I
• 1:53:13
  read about that was essentially a sniper, but not the up close personal bayonets,
• 1:53:19
  getting shoved in your gut fighting that was all men. When when it
• 1:53:26
  was swords and horses and you know, blood and shit on the battlefield,
• 1:53:32
  that was all men. For centuries, that was all men. And all
• 1:53:41
  of the evolution of voting rights that was associated with that was all men.
• 1:53:46
  But women still got to exercise the franchise if they just met two of the
• 1:53:55
  three standards that applied to men. Men have had the three. They had
• 1:54:01
  some sort of gainful employment or labor basically in the community that contributed to the
• 1:54:11
  community in a way that made them an upstanding citizen. They had some form
• 1:54:15
  of tax paying of financial economic contribution to the government, even even back when
• 1:54:23
  it was the proto tax that was actually agreed to by the taxpayers and not
• 1:54:29
  theft. And they had participation in military service at the cost of their lives
• 1:54:36
  or at least at their risk to their lives. Women just had the taxation
• 1:54:43
  and needing to be gainfully laborious. They didn't have to they did have to
• 1:54:48
  fight, they'd have to be available for military service. They were not.
• 1:54:53
  That was not expected of them. And so for there to be so much
• 1:55:00
  fewer females in the franchise exercising the franchise, that indicates that women didn't see
• 1:55:10
  it as equally important to them during that time period. And we're seeing that
• 1:55:17
  not just in England, but in England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada and
• 1:55:27
  the United States. And we haven't really talked a lot about Australia yet.
• 1:55:30
  Australia is different because Australia became a country much later. So there we go,
• 1:55:40
  and yeah, to a degree. Albert Nata retro Badger live streams at
• 1:55:45
  Badger live Streams. Men controlled the fiscal realm, women controlled the social and
• 1:55:49
  sexual realm. Women had a lot of economic control. Actually they did a
• 1:55:56
  lot of buying power. And in the lower classes, women worked because they
• 1:56:02
  had to. Women used to be coal miners. There was we showed that
• 1:56:09
  women in mining companies and it was upper class women that got upset. So
• 1:56:17
  that was another previous episode. So we're not it's not accurate to say that
• 1:56:26
  that division was strict. We'll leave it at that. But in any case,
• 1:56:31
  so we have the Stamp Act, which was that taxation. We have
• 1:56:36
  the Proclamation of seventeen sixty three, which changed where people could live and also
• 1:56:45
  who was considered to be part of what set of colonies, because if that
• 1:56:49
  hadn't been undone, let's say, the Revolutionary War in the United States had
• 1:56:54
  never happened, and we didn't become a country until God, I can't forget
• 1:57:00
  the name of it, it's on the timeline here. But the proclamation that
• 1:57:02
  also made Canada and a whole bunch of other British colonies independent. I'd be
• 1:57:11
  Canadian because where I live right now and where I grew up, where I've
• 1:57:16
  lived all my life, that was all part of the territory of Quebec at
• 1:57:24
  the time that the proclament, the Proclamation of seventeen sixty three made it so.
• 1:57:31
  Sugar Act, like I said, that was another tax issue. The
• 1:57:36
  Currency Act is the Currency Act was essentially a means of facility facilitating taxation.
• 1:57:43
  If you don't have control over what all the currencies are, it's much harder
• 1:57:48
  to use the kind of documentation that you need to use to prove that taxes
• 1:57:54
  are owed. So there was that. Then there was the Quartering Act,
• 1:58:00
  which basically, you know, if if British soldiers came to your house and
• 1:58:05
  said we want to stay here, you had to let them. It didn't
• 1:58:10
  matter if you had space or not, or if bre Lawson comes to your
• 1:58:14
  house, yes, no your head quartering. There we go. But yeah,
• 1:58:23
  so that all of these things came rapid fire at the American colonists.
• 1:58:29
  They were pissed as fucked you had towns. I almost forgot that the Townshend
• 1:58:34
  Act more taxes. And this is the colonists had started manufacturing things rather than
• 1:58:46
  paying duties on imports, and those items then got targeted. So and is
• 1:58:56
  this hard to see again, it's not sure going very well. It is
• 1:59:02
  showing all right, It's just that you can't see the top of it.
• 1:59:08
  So what it says at the top above where it says Benjamin Franklin is just
• 1:59:12
  imposed taxes on initiated taxes on glass, lead, paint, paper, and
• 1:59:18
  tea to pay expenses involved in government governing American colonies. So that these were
• 1:59:24
  things that American colonists had started creating or making on their own because they didn't
• 1:59:33
  want to buy them from the East India Tea Company, so they wanted to
• 1:59:42
  buy them themselves. They expected significant profit from these taxes, right, but
• 1:59:48
  instead it led to boycotts. So the colonists looked at this as a violation
• 1:59:56
  of the no taxation without representation principle that already existed. It predated the concept
• 2:00:06
  of the Revolutionary War in the United States. It was a concept. We
• 2:00:12
  highlighted this in a past episode. Barons in the UK that were objecting to
• 2:00:23
  being expected to pay for things that the King wasn't consulting them on. They
• 2:00:28
  weren't they weren't getting the right of Great Council is called magnet Carta held in
• 2:00:39
  high esteem over young They were the ones that came out with the concept of
• 2:00:45
  no taxation without representation. So this principle wasn't new, and it wasn't something
• 2:00:51
  that the royalty would have been unaware of, but that the royalty again was
• 2:00:58
  in a situation of if you want to tell the colonists something and get my
• 2:01:05
  discussion back and forth, you know the representation factor in it. It would
• 2:01:12
  take a year or more to get the tax through, like get it passed,
• 2:01:17
  get it paid, and everything, because you're talking voyages back and forth
• 2:01:23
  across the Atlantic Ocean that take months, and every communication would then have to
• 2:01:30
  voyage back across the ocean to the other side to get the answer, and
• 2:01:35
  then that answer would have to go back and take months to get, you
• 2:01:40
  know, back to the king and to the Parliament. The only other option
• 2:01:45
  would have been for colonists to travel back and forth as representatives make decisions based
• 2:01:53
  on what they felt. The colonies had said, these are our interests,
• 2:02:00
  and then hope that they didn't get crucified for it when they went back.
• 2:02:05
  And so instead the the monarchy just imposed taxes on the colonies, and the
• 2:02:14
  colonists went what wait, what the fuck no, And they started engaging in
• 2:02:18
  vandalism, property damage, marching, not marching protests, but rioting kind of
• 2:02:26
  protests. They became very unruly and uh had conflict with British soldiers and with
• 2:02:34
  the local government, even though that that was their elected A lot of them
• 2:02:39
  was their their elected representatives, some of them were appointed by the king,
• 2:02:44
  so that there was that going on, and of course that led to the
• 2:02:48
  Boston massacre. The Boston massacre took place in the context of this unrest.
• 2:02:57
  These the vandalism, the the p pretty damage, the there was, there
• 2:03:01
  were thefts that were taking place. There were all kinds of things. And
• 2:03:05
  and again one of those acts, one of those laws I mentioned, and
• 2:03:14
  I can't remember which one it was, also gave the the English East India
• 2:03:21
  Tea Company a monopoly. You couldn't sell tea if it wasn't from the East
• 2:03:29
  India Tea Company or trading company. And so this precedes a whole series of
• 2:03:38
  events. So there were there were several conflicts, and then there was a
• 2:03:45
  kid that got killed. Oh going to Mike, I was, I didn't
• 2:03:51
  know about the kid that got killed. I imagine there were several kids that
• 2:03:56
  got killed over this. But this is the reason Indian tea even exists.
• 2:04:02
  There are two kinds of tea. There's the green tea we get from China
• 2:04:06
  and there's the brown tea we get from India. And the only reason Indian
• 2:04:11
  tea exists was because the British Empire wanted to control the tea trade, and
• 2:04:19
  so they introduced Chinese tea to India, who developed their own kind of tea,
• 2:04:26
  which was the brown kind that everyone in Britain drinks today and everyone all
• 2:04:31
  over the world drinks today as an alternative to the green kind that they drink
• 2:04:38
  in China. Not that there are all kinds of people throughout theF I mentioned
• 2:04:43
  Western world that prefer green tea. I'm among them. I'm very much a
• 2:04:48
  coffee drinker. But if ever I am to drink tea, it will be
• 2:04:53
  the green kind. It's better in my humble opinion. Yeah, it's I
• 2:05:04
  don't know how ironic it is or how premeditated it is that the most popular
• 2:05:12
  kind of tea is the Indian kind, which was never native. Oh,
• 2:05:17
  it's very premeditated. The laws that Britain passed to give their company a monopoly
• 2:05:26
  in their colonies. I mean that's pretty solidly manipulating the market, right,
• 2:05:34
  So yeah, it was very very premeditated. But I said, the kid
• 2:05:38
  that got killed. So something else to remember during this point in history seventeen
• 2:05:47
  like between you know, seventeen fifteen and seventeen seventy six, we're looking at
• 2:05:55
  a whole series of events right that point in history. By the time you
• 2:06:00
  were eighteen years old, you were thought of as an adult. If you
• 2:06:04
  were a man, you know, like that was. We have eighteen as
• 2:06:13
  an age of majority here, and you can get drafted in the military at
• 2:06:15
  eighteen, and you can vote and so on. But if you look at
• 2:06:21
  an eighteen year old in American culture, most people will see a kid.
• 2:06:27
  Right, sixteen year olds had we're treated like adults. Back then, fifteen
• 2:06:33
  year olds were pretty well treated like adults. You probably get married still at
• 2:06:40
  fifteen. A few centuries earlier, you could get married at thirteen. So
• 2:06:45
  where we're not looking at a time period where quite as many young people were
• 2:06:53
  considered kids. But this was an eleven year old boy. This was a
• 2:06:59
  shop owner shot indiscriminately into a crowd and killed an eleven year old boy.
• 2:07:05
  Let's see. Albert Nata retro says the colonists were traders to the Commonwealth.
• 2:07:11
  Uh, and that was a two dollars super chat, and another two dollars
• 2:07:15
  super chat says, by the way, the South wore traders in your civil
• 2:07:19
  war? Am I am oh? And Richard I read that one already,
• 2:07:27
  and it it can be argued both ways. In our civil war, our
• 2:07:35
  uh, federation of states are are the way our system of government is.
• 2:07:45
  States rights are heavily emphasized. As they say, history is written by the
• 2:07:49
  winners, the losers will be portrayed as traces. One of the problems that
• 2:07:58
  has existed in the United States is that we are taught that the Civil War
• 2:08:01
  was fought over slavery. It wasn't. Slavery was an issue in the Civil
• 2:08:09
  War, but what the Civil War was actually fought over was federalism versus states
• 2:08:18
  rights, and the Union was on the side of federalism bigger government. I
• 2:08:30
  think slavery would have died in the United States no matter what, because as
• 2:08:35
  we had advancements in technology, it pretty much made it made it not economically
• 2:08:46
  viable to keep and feed large groups of people on your land to do tasks
• 2:08:52
  that you didn't need large groups of people to do. And more and more
• 2:08:58
  that the changes to technology, we're kind of making slavery obsolete. But it
• 2:09:07
  should have happened a long time prior to that. But but it couldn't have
• 2:09:13
  happened because industry was growing and they had no way to exact that level of
• 2:09:20
  industry without human slaves. It was only it was it was only when machines
• 2:09:24
  were able to do the jobs that could previously only be done by slaves,
• 2:09:30
  that this revolution happened, and it's it's I don't know if it's beginning to
• 2:09:39
  happen or ending to happen in the technological revolution. Yeah, now that I
• 2:09:45
  mean, it's not as if people who work for actual wages are slaves.
• 2:09:50
  It's certainly not comparable, except in a very twisted comparison. But a lot
• 2:10:01
  of people are complaining that a lot of jobs have stopped existing because they can
• 2:10:05
  be taken over by robots, And you have to it's comparable machines. And
• 2:10:15
  you have to wonder if to what degree this is for the best because we
• 2:10:22
  don't have to I don't want to use the term wage slave because it's kind
• 2:10:28
  of an oxymoron, but yeah, you have you have to wonder how comparable
• 2:10:37
  the technological revolution is to the industrial revolution. The Industrial Revolution brought an end
• 2:10:43
  to slavery as we knew it at the time, and you could say the
• 2:10:50
  technological revolution is bringing an end to slavery as we know it at the time,
• 2:10:56
  which isn't slavery at all. The oxymoron at his wage slavery. And
• 2:11:01
  now and now we're getting AI, which is good, which might bring an
• 2:11:05
  end to the very need for the existence of artists, which makes the likes
• 2:11:13
  of me quite nervous. But at the same time, yeah, yeah,
• 2:11:18
  much like we the industrial revolution made us embrace machines to do the jobs that
• 2:11:28
  humans don't have to do. We can keep doing that. I mean,
• 2:11:31
  I don't know, I don't know. I don't know when it's going to
• 2:11:33
  change, at what point that our our embracing of the machines is not going
• 2:11:41
  to be helpful to humans so that we don't have to do those laborious jobs
• 2:11:46
  that we once have to had to do. But yeah, you know,
• 2:11:54
  I mean, isn't isn't the ultimate point of everything to reduce human labor so
• 2:12:05
  that we don't have to do it. I mean, I know that,
• 2:12:09
  I know that's that's going to leave people without ship that they have to do,
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  and the ship that humans have to do sort of sort of keeps us
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  exercised, so to speak. But there's nothing stopping us from just voluntarily exercising.
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  The problem is that people don't have the will to exercise that the spirit
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  is willing, but the flesh is weak. But the flesh was never weak.
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  The flesh has always been the same with the same organisms we were two
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  hundred thousand years ago, like is willing, but the flesh is out of
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  shape is what usually happens, like with my case. You know, I
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  went, I was exercising until could hit and things changed, and then I
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  ended up in a situation where I didn't have time to focus on my health
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  for four years. And now that I'm doing it, it's hard, it's
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  not easy, kind of sucks. And I actually am now dealing with the
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  weirdest sports injury I've ever had because I can't balance on a bike ever since
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  the concussion I had in twenty nineteen when I was assaulted by that one chick.
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  So I and I can't go. I was using the staircase in my
• 2:13:39
  apartment as my home gym, but my knees are fifty years old so that
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  they didn't like that. And I can use a peddler, but I wanted
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  to use a bicycle. I thought, well, I'll have the discipline right
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  if I ride to and from work four miles. But I can't balance on
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  a bike, so I bought a tricycle. Tricycles are not as stable as
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  bicycles. I thought it would be more stable. I flipped the goddamn thing
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  over I and like physically, the one place that it has a dent is
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  on the top. Why don't you rune a unicycle? Would that not be
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  more stable? What I'd like? Oh, I hit a bump, that's
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  it. I hit a bump going a little too fast. So uh yeah,
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  no, no broken bones or shit. But it does make it a
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  challenge, like things like that are what get in a way of a human
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  being. So uh, you know, it's it's a complicated situation for us.
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  But the point, in regard to the advancements in the Civil War and
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  so on, I will say this, it's men that made the advancements that
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  made slavery obsolete. And it's men that decided that this was something worth fighting
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  over and worth settling. And when they settled it, it was settled under
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  law. There were a whole series of growing pains that happened afterwards, but
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  it was men who suffered and bled and died to determine that with regard to
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  some issues, like human rights issues, that the federal government has to be
• 2:15:39
  able to defend the human rights issue against states rights. And while the war
• 2:15:48
  was fought over federalism versus state rights, states rights, we did have the
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  one caveat that that people have to acquiesced to if they're wanting to be accurate
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  about American history is that the reason the issue of states rights came up was
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  because the South was afraid that Lincoln would end slavery. So when everyone has
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  access to robots, and all our lives will be easier, and all our
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  lives will be more luxurious, and surely that's the whole point of what is
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  often wrongly called progress, but in this case can rightly be called progress.
• 2:16:43
  The whole point of agricultural advancement, industrial advancement, technological advancement is so that
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  we can so that we can give these jobs to the machines we invented are
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  indeed the machines that intelligent people invented, so that we don't have to break
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  our backs all day every day. And we could, we could, We
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  can. We can get the food and and and the irrigation we need without
• 2:17:16
  bloody killing ourselves all the time. And that would be the case, It
• 2:17:24
  would have always been the case if it wasn't for these organized crime sinder cuts,
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  not for those medaling kids. Yeah, there we go, So God,
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  it's nine thirty almost here. I was thinking you know, I wasn't
• 2:17:39
  gonna have enough information to to never mind, I know better. This is
• 2:17:50
  not an article. This timeline. I'll I'll set it up so that whoever
• 2:17:54
  has a link can see it, and I'll send you guys a link.
• 2:17:56
  There's a lot on this timeline, and it's going to continue to grow because
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  I'm not done with it by any stretch of the imagination. You know,
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  the best shows, Well, we don't even address the article. We just
• 2:18:07
  we just talk shop amongst ourselves. I think that's what people want. Yeah,
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  Well, my main point in going over this this is men's history.
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  Like it's not that women were not involved, but women were involved because women
• 2:18:26
  were along for the ride. Every aspect of this was led by men.
• 2:18:31
  Every aspect of this was hashed out by men. Every risk involved in this
• 2:18:37
  was initiated by men. Women who got on board with it got on board
• 2:18:43
  in support of the men. Right, this was a male directed, male
• 2:18:52
  fueled time of change, rapid and dramatic change. So but in terms of
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  the Boston massacre, because of the death of the eleven year old boy,
• 2:19:05
  another group afterwards rioted. Essentially they confronted the King's guards at at like there
• 2:19:18
  was in that area. There were a bunch of businesses, but there were
• 2:19:22
  some businesses that were specifically from England, so they were the import house.
• 2:19:31
  The custom houses is the import house. Basically, this is where the goods
• 2:19:35
  that were King approved were sold. And they started out throwing rocks and stuff,
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  yelling obscenities and and everything, and there was there was also a fire,
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  and of course as soon as there was a fire, there was a
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  fire bell. As soon as there was a fire bell, there were a
• 2:20:03
  lot of men on the street because who puts out the fire. They didn't
• 2:20:05
  have a fire department. That was everybody would come running out and start a
• 2:20:11
  bucket brigade. So now there's a shitload of men and a handful of soldiers,
• 2:20:20
  and they called for reinforcements. The conflict got bigger, and at some
• 2:20:26
  point one person thought they heard someone yell fire and it might have been about
• 2:20:35
  the fire, or it might have been an order to fire. Well,
• 2:20:41
  they shot and at that shot then set off, you know, all the
• 2:20:46
  other soldiers shooting. They all opened fire and five colonists got killed, and
• 2:20:54
  there were several other people with various effects, including six wounded by the gunfire.
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  So there wasn't necessarily a good guy in that incident because obviously rioting.
• 2:21:15
  Granted the reason for the riot was anger over the death of this kid and
• 2:21:20
  and other incidents that have been going on. There was already in an environment
• 2:21:24
  where, uh, there was unrest taking place. The colonists were not necessarily
• 2:21:35
  the They were justified in their anger, but they were not acting on it
• 2:21:39
  in a way that was rational and reasonable. Uh. But but yeah,
• 2:21:48
  the other side obviously was also engaging in tyranny, and so that was not
• 2:21:54
  a good guy side either. More likely than not, the British soldiers were
• 2:22:01
  fairly young men. They may very well have been young men who were impressed
• 2:22:07
  into the military against their will. So I guess here's where you know full
• 2:22:15
  disclosure, that's part of that's in my family history. I think I've said
• 2:22:18
  that before. One of my earliest ancestors in the colonies was an Irish kid
• 2:22:26
  like fourteen years old, so they would have considered him an adult who was
• 2:22:33
  impressed into the British military and shipped over to the colonies. And he fled
• 2:22:41
  inland, and he fled to Ohio, which is why that branch of my
• 2:22:46
  family ended up in Ohio. And so he sided huh. I mean all
• 2:22:56
  of us have all kinds of ancestors that I guess, especially in the New
• 2:23:03
  World, had all kinds of ancestors who were escaping some kind of obligations or
• 2:23:11
  whatever, such as the obligations to a war that they didn't give a shit
• 2:23:16
  about exactly. So, so that was one way, you know, I
• 2:23:20
  mean, I had ancestors that were already here. So but but they're not
• 2:23:26
  the majority of my genetic makeup. In fact, I'm I'm only very slightly
• 2:23:33
  more Native American than Focahontas. So there you go. But Albert Nader Retro,
• 2:23:41
  Albert Nader Retro gave us five dollars Canadian and said, oh, and
• 2:23:45
  the War of eighteen twelve was your first foreign affairs faux pa. Uh uh
• 2:23:50
  no, no, no, no, no, that we are going to
• 2:23:52
  disagree on because that war was fought because of the Brits attacking American ships and
• 2:24:03
  impressing American sailors into the British military. That was the faux pas. Like
• 2:24:09
  they're not your citizens anymore, you can't do that. So but anyway,
• 2:24:13
  yeah, you've been really good at keeping that trend going, by the way,
• 2:24:16
  like oh and uh and and and yeah, an ass kicking was in
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  order, and that in that vein, and I fully support that ass kicking.
• 2:24:30
  Nobody should be forced into the military if they don't want to be in
• 2:24:33
  the military. I don't think it's good in two directions. First of all,
• 2:24:37
  it's obviously a human rights violation in my opinion, and the second of
• 2:24:41
  all, people who want to do that job are going to do it better,
• 2:24:50
  Like I want. I want people who are defending my freedom to be
• 2:24:56
  people who are doing that because they want to and because they're patriotic and they
• 2:25:03
  care what happens to the country. And I think if the government didn't have
• 2:25:07
  the power to force people that didn't want to do it into it, and
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  had to sell the idea to people who are are guided by an interest in
• 2:25:20
  protecting the people they love, they would have to they would have to be
• 2:25:26
  much more picky about which conflicts they fight they got into. Well, then
• 2:25:35
  why would anyone defend their country? Let me answer that for you, Mike,
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  because there's a difference between a country and a government. The reason people
• 2:25:46
  have dropped off the radar when it comes to defending their country is because their
• 2:25:52
  countries have been the concept of their country has been muddied with the concept of
• 2:25:58
  their government. People. If people actually it can recognize the idea that their
• 2:26:05
  country is in jeopardy, then they will volunteer for the army of that country
• 2:26:16
  with enthusiasm. This has been the case for all of history, and not
• 2:26:22
  just as far back as World War One, in so far as some people
• 2:26:28
  did volunteer for that war even though they had no idea what was going on,
• 2:26:33
  it goes thousands of years back. This has always been the case when
• 2:26:41
  there was a distinct delineation between the land in which you live and the leaders
• 2:26:50
  in charge of it. People will fight for the land on which they live,
• 2:26:56
  but they will not fight for the corrupt assholes in charge of it.
• 2:27:01
  And that's that's that that's the difference when when people when people people can actually
• 2:27:09
  tell that that the the farm said on which they did, the log,
• 2:27:16
  the log cabin on which they live is jeopardized by foreign interference, they app
• 2:27:24
  they absolutely will and by they I mean men absolutely will volunteer to fight to
• 2:27:31
  save that thing. But you must be able to see the difference between that
• 2:27:37
  and and your leaders saying we need to fight for Ukraine or fucking Israel or
• 2:27:46
  some ship like that. You must know the difference between foreign proxy was and
• 2:27:54
  was for your own territory. That was That was the case with war was
• 2:28:00
  for the vast majority of human history, men would only fight war was for
• 2:28:03
  their own territory because that's what's important to them. Like the UK and the
• 2:28:11
  US have not fought was for their own territory since the end of the Second
• 2:28:18
  World War. And yet, and yet there's been a bunch of wars ever
• 2:28:24
  since then that they've been compelled to fight for nevertheless, And is there any
• 2:28:30
  surprise that through all these wars they've started to go, Wait, what the
• 2:28:35
  fuck is the point in this. I don't give a shit about the Middle
• 2:28:39
  East, I don't give a shit about Eastern Europe. I don't give a
• 2:28:43
  shit about any of this. If you're not in my territory, if you're
• 2:28:48
  not at my borders, if you're not anywhere near my front door, then
• 2:28:54
  why should I give a ship? And that's the right answer. Yeah,
• 2:28:58
  there you go. In the meantime, Albert Nata Retro gave us two dollars
• 2:29:03
  twice and said you lost eighteen twelve, and then he said you gotta go,
• 2:29:07
  I gotta go. But you lost eighteen twelve, and I will point
• 2:29:09
  out this when Albert was the last time the UK impressed any American soldiers into
• 2:29:18
  the British military or any American sailors into the British military, because that was
• 2:29:26
  that was the goal. And yeah, a lot of blood was shed and
• 2:29:30
  it still had to be done. And one of these days, one of
• 2:29:35
  these days, I'll have to go back over the that the Halloween mugging and
• 2:29:43
  explain why, even if you think you're going to lose a fight, there
• 2:29:48
  are times when it's worth it. So, but there's also debate over whether
• 2:29:58
  anyone won that war. So and both sides may have suffered, but that
• 2:30:09
  still includes Britain suffering, and it did change the way that like, they
• 2:30:15
  never did that again. That was, they abandoned the policy and they never
• 2:30:22
  reinstituted it even though they continued to engage in war throughout history. So I'm
• 2:30:33
  gonna pause here with the Boston massacre. Obviously, the next step is the
• 2:30:41
  Boston Tea Party, which is kind of a fun discussion, and there is
• 2:30:46
  a whole American history website devoted to the the Boston Tea Party, everything that
• 2:31:01
  happened leading up to it, everything that happened after it. It's quite extensive.
• 2:31:05
  It's kind of fun. We may visit that site, we may not,
• 2:31:11
  but I am linking to it a lot in the in the timeline,
• 2:31:18
  so it's sort of you kind of see now that the thing that is sort
• 2:31:26
  of considered the trigger for the revolutionary War was actually that was actually pulled by
• 2:31:41
  a series of events that happened prior. And all of it was was,
• 2:31:46
  you know, men defending the economic and human rights interests of the people in
• 2:31:54
  the colonies. But with that, it is nine one and we've been going
• 2:32:01
  for a couple of hours, so almost two hours. I'm gonna go ahead
• 2:32:05
  and call it the end of the show. Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks
• 2:32:11
  to my two co hosts for sticking out. This has been kind of a
• 2:32:13
  Again, history can be kind of a dry sausage, but it's it's an
• 2:32:20
  important discussion to have, and there's there's been a lot of important contributions to
• 2:32:26
  the discussion tonight. Hopefully we've filled we've filled it in with bits of random
• 2:32:33
  black pudding and oats. Yeah, well, I you know, a lot
• 2:32:37
  of the stuff that seems kind of random, isn't like all of that is
• 2:32:41
  kind of kind of uh, I would say, context for the decision making
• 2:32:48
  process that men engage in in terms of the risk taking and the labor involved
• 2:32:54
  in the advancements that led to where we are now, where we have universal
• 2:33:01
  voting rights, and there it's it's such a common thing, in such a
• 2:33:11
  taken for granted thing that there are people who don't even exercise them. They
• 2:33:16
  could, So there you go. But with that, I'm gonna double check
• 2:33:22
  my let's see, we don't have anymore super chows, we don't have any
• 2:33:30
  rumble rants. And then that was the last of the super chats, So
• 2:33:37
  good night, all word