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Gangs and being better towards one another · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: As I was pointing out, I think it was Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: It's radio talk show. And while I love the interaction
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  Speaker 1: with you guys on social media, it did did. It's
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  Speaker 1: a radio talk show, so feel free to call. I've
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  Speaker 1: got like eleven different threads that were going during that break,
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  Speaker 1: people sending me, well, here's how we should do executions.
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  Speaker 1: I think we should do this. Here's how they do it.
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  Speaker 1: Here here's a oh which which is you know, wonderful points.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't help me with the radio show. So, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like there's conversation now to to at least
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  Speaker 1: hopefully begin the process of coming up with a new method,
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  Speaker 1: a new accepted method. I think there should be multiple methods,
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, and I've said before I here's here's my deal.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody and I would you know how they need
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  Speaker 1: super majority in Congress to do some things like not
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  Speaker 1: shut down the government. If there is a super uh,
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  Speaker 1: a super majority vote by a jury. Like let's say
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  Speaker 1: your found guilt guilty, you're guilty of murder, but then
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  Speaker 1: there you're you're like, you know, extra super duper guilty
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  Speaker 1: of murder because they they see you you're you're on
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  Speaker 1: video doing it. There's thirty five eyewitnesses that pointed you out.
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  Speaker 1: You left DNA fingerprints and and your dirty tennis shoes
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  Speaker 1: at the scene of the murder, and the victim lived
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  Speaker 1: just long enough to say this is who killed me.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt that you are the murderer. If you
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  Speaker 1: have that kind of super majority guilty verdict. I say,
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  Speaker 1: whatever way you killed your victim, that's fine. If you
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  Speaker 1: that's how you should go. Does that sound crazy to you?
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  Speaker 1: Does that sound vengeful? Does that sound nasty? Does that
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  Speaker 1: sound insane? Because if so, it's probably me. I'm asking
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  Speaker 1: you because I trust you. Does that sound crazy?
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  Speaker 2: No, it sounds rational. I mean, to be honest, I
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  Speaker 2: get it. I really get it.
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  Speaker 1: You you kill somebody by, you know, by you know,
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  Speaker 1: a shot a gun. Okay, that's how you go. If
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  Speaker 1: you're one of those sick ohs that you know, turns
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  Speaker 1: people into puzzle pieces and stuff like that, that's how
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  Speaker 1: you go.
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  Speaker 3: But how do we We got to get the people
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  Speaker 3: to do that, though? What do you mean, like, we
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  Speaker 3: gotta get the We gotta find the people. Like if
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  Speaker 3: somebody cuts somebody's head off and then uses it as
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  Speaker 3: a soccer ball downstairs in their basement for while, Like,
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  Speaker 3: we got to find a guy to do that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean somebody who would inflict that penalty?
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  Speaker 2: Right right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I contact contact the relative of the victim. Okay, seriously,
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  Speaker 1: if you sneak up on the victim and you stab
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  Speaker 1: them to death. Uh, if dad wants the honor, I say,
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  Speaker 1: put you in a room with dad and give him
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  Speaker 1: a knife. Why not, man? Why why must we be
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  Speaker 1: so civil to those who are so uncivil toward us?
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  Speaker 2: No, I get it. I was just wondering who would
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  Speaker 2: do the uh.
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  Speaker 1: Do the act? Yeah, I guarantee you there were people
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  Speaker 1: out there who would be willing to fulfill that, especially
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  Speaker 1: because there's absolutely no way. You heard somebody I love
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  Speaker 1: you you hate destroyed the life of somebody I love.
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  Speaker 1: Given the opportunity to inflict that punishment upon them, there's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good chance I would take you up on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We could reduce murder that way too, if we
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  Speaker 3: had like some psycho path people who were like, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care, yeah, or just take you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody everybody who want I said, this is something I
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  Speaker 1: said along like back in the nineties, back when they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about the gangs in the city of Columbus,
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  Speaker 1: we had gangs with the short North posse, and we
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  Speaker 1: had the people were talking about the crips and the
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  Speaker 1: Bloods trying to come from the West Coast and establish
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  Speaker 1: here in Columbus. We had all these streak gang probably.
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, it's Columbus, Ohio. Before this gets carried away,
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  Speaker 1: here's what you do. You go round up the gangs
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  Speaker 1: of Columbus, Ohio. You take them out to Compton and
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  Speaker 1: let them off the bus right there, and anybody who
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  Speaker 1: gets back here can be a gang. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: an excellent idea, but nobody wanted to take me up
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  Speaker 1: on that, so they continue to grow and be what
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  Speaker 1: they thought was was gang thug material do.
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  Speaker 3: The big riots at l at the summer of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty when the other's riots and they were doing those
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  Speaker 3: in LA and they tried to go to South Central
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  Speaker 3: and Watts and they.
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  Speaker 1: Were like don't yeah, don't even bother you even try.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody's like we're fighting for you, Like no, nobody
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  Speaker 3: went there.
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  Speaker 1: And you get back, you get to be a gang
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  Speaker 1: because I'm basically what I was saying, you got a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of little wooses out there in Columbus,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio that stole grandpa's gun from his military war chest.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, and they think they're a gang. No, they weren't,
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  Speaker 1: not back then, but nothing was done. So now you
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  Speaker 1: have what you have, which is pretty much daily shootings
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  Speaker 1: and Colonia's assaults and homicides in Columbus, Ohio. The guys
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  Speaker 1: that are out here shooting, you say, you got gang
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  Speaker 1: leaders now, and they're shooting each other. Here we go,
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  Speaker 1: City of Columbus, Golden Gloves. We can put it right
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  Speaker 1: there in front of city Hall. Since there's no longer
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  Speaker 1: a Christopher Columbus statue there, Let's put a ring there
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  Speaker 1: and and that they get to be, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: king of the city. Why not take all the gangs
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  Speaker 1: and have them send their designee and have a Golden
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  Speaker 1: Gloves Championship. I would much rather see them with gloves
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  Speaker 1: on and a ring beating the crap out of each
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  Speaker 1: other than throwing bullets across the street where I may
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  Speaker 1: be driving the next day. Give them a sense of honor, accomplishment,
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  Speaker 1: and dignity. Give them a reason to up to be
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  Speaker 1: better next year than they were this year. If they
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  Speaker 1: are not the winner this year of those golden gloves,
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  Speaker 1: why don't see how a spark is going to solve problem. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it comes from the same brain children that brought us
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  Speaker 1: midnight basketball. For gosh sakes, what that was one of
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  Speaker 1: the things Columbus said midnight basketball to We're going to
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  Speaker 1: keep the bad kids off the street by having midnight basketball.
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  Speaker 2: No, you have to organize the teams, give them something
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  Speaker 2: to play for.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, the bus don't need to be out
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  Speaker 1: at midnight. But yeah, that was one of the things
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  Speaker 1: Columbus has done over the years. And I was actually
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  Speaker 1: involved in the early days of midnight basketball because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was the nineties. You were going to try anything,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought no. I actually worked with the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Public Safety as far as basically advertising marketing, getting
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  Speaker 1: the word out there what they were doing. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was the early days of crime in Columbus as
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  Speaker 1: far as what we are seeing now, and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do what I could. They asked me if I
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  Speaker 1: would help, so I said yes, And it turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be a fluke. I served was it Lashutka, that
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  Speaker 1: was mayor? I think it was Lashutka. When I served
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  Speaker 1: the City of Columbus Commission on Ethics and Values. I
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  Speaker 1: served on that body. I don't even think they have
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  Speaker 1: a commission on ethics and values, now what would it do.
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  Speaker 1: But when the city called yes, I did tend to
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  Speaker 1: end because it's my hometown. I believe that if I
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  Speaker 1: had something to offer that might make it better, I
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  Speaker 1: should do that. When when your community, your city, or
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  Speaker 1: whatever some cases, your country calls out to you and
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  Speaker 1: says you bring something to the table that will benefit
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  Speaker 1: your fellow man, your fellow Columbus site or Ohioan or
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  Speaker 1: American or whatever, we're asking you to give that of
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  Speaker 1: yourself to make something better for all of these people.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's incoment upon you an answer that called
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  Speaker 1: politics aside, politics aside, and that was during a I
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  Speaker 1: want to say it was Lashutka was the mayor. However, however,
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  Speaker 1: the director of Public Safety that I was working with
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  Speaker 1: was Stephanie high Tower, and Stephanie I got along great. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: I liked Stephanie Hyge Tower a lot. She's president or
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  Speaker 1: CEO over at the Urban League now, and I have
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  Speaker 1: to say she's she's different now than I recall her
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  Speaker 1: being back then.
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  Speaker 2: Was she married a high tower from no Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Stevity was famous of her own accord as an olympian,
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  Speaker 1: she was she was one of the best conditioned, fastest women.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she was like flow Joe fast. She was.
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  Speaker 1: She was impressive, fair enough and uh yeah, I to
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  Speaker 1: this day I can't say something bad about her. I criticize.
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  Speaker 1: I got upset when she was president of the Klamas
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  Speaker 1: City school Board and her kids were in private school.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was wrong. You cannot be talking about
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  Speaker 1: Levy's and how we need to support the school system
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  Speaker 1: when your kids are in private school. And that's not
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  Speaker 1: I hate you. That doesn't mean you're That just means
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  Speaker 1: I completely disagree with with that decision you made. But
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  Speaker 1: I worked with a lot of and these were the
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  Speaker 1: early days. I was working in music radio, black radio actually,
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  Speaker 1: and so again I considered it important incumbent upon me
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  Speaker 1: to answer these calls because they say, hey, man, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all these people are listening to you every morning, and
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  Speaker 1: these kids are in the car and a way to
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  Speaker 1: school listening to you every morning, and we need you
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  Speaker 1: to help. And I was there. I've always considered this
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  Speaker 1: job not only you know, a job but a responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: And I wish, honestly, I wish we were back in
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  Speaker 1: those days because I did not I did not feel
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  Speaker 1: so alone in that point of view. Most of the
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  Speaker 1: people in this business knew that not only were we
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  Speaker 1: here to do what we do, but also to try
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  Speaker 1: to make a difference. And that was in the days
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  Speaker 1: we still had the telethons. We had, you know, Easter
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  Speaker 1: cels over at Channel four and ABC six had the
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  Speaker 1: Muscular District re telethon, and whenever they would call, hey
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  Speaker 1: can you do the phone bank? The celebrity p absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I went down there anytime they called, and it was
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  Speaker 1: it was great because you felt like, hey, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: me being here can make it extra hundred bucks for
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  Speaker 1: Easter Seals this year. And they don't even they don't
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  Speaker 1: call on you anymore, just saying we were a lot
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  Speaker 1: more apt to answer the call and a lot more
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  Speaker 1: apt to be asked thirty years ago than we are today.
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  Speaker 1: Two six number e two n WTV, And I got
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  Speaker 1: Denny's standing by here. Denny, what's what's on your mind?
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  Speaker 1: You're on six NATVN.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Jeff, you do a great job.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, sir, I'm the old farmer.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the old farmer that got the pedicure that you can't.
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  Speaker 4: I had to make sure of them.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're pretty little toes in your big farmer boots.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, you know, O Ron White kind of said
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  Speaker 4: the same thing you did. They kind of got one
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  Speaker 4: hundred witnesses all the evidence of DNA in Texas. You
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  Speaker 4: go to the front of the line, you're gonna die,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And I had an uncle worked a higher reformatory,
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  Speaker 4: and he used to lead him at the old prison
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  Speaker 4: down there to the electric chair, and he told some stories.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I actually would not have a problem with us setting
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  Speaker 1: up a court system that is specifically a death court
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  Speaker 1: so that we don't have to go through criminal court
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  Speaker 1: or anything else. It's just a series of appellate levels
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  Speaker 1: for death penalty cases so we can get them over
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  Speaker 1: with quick, fast and in a hurry. This this twenty
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  Speaker 1: years before you get sentenced as bs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and the lawyers are making bunches a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of the more money off of it. I'll amount of
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  Speaker 4: the taxpayers for paying for the the person that.
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  Speaker 1: Killed somebody's family, yep. And the end. You know, you've
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  Speaker 1: got to go through this. This is holiday season realizing
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  Speaker 1: somebody you love is no longer there, but that person
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  Speaker 1: is still there, and every year until they are gone,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to think about the fact that your
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  Speaker 1: loved one is gone and they are still there. They
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  Speaker 1: are continuing to be there year after year. That that
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  Speaker 1: is cool and unusual punishment on the families and the
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  Speaker 1: friends of the victims.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. Well, Chuck, you do a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 4: And that that duke guy you got on Saturday morning
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  Speaker 4: seem to be doing pretty good too.
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  Speaker 1: So you mean you mean that the open open phones,
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  Speaker 1: little troublodite bearded guy.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's the one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he doesn't do half bad. I appreciate you, Denny,
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much for the call. He's even got a
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  Speaker 1: thanks from him. All right, God take care, buddy. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: are you doing open phones this week?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm actually at Ella's. Uh it's her birthday, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm filling in for her. So I'm actually producing it
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is Saturday, her birthday. Yeah, that's the actual day. Yes, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get her something.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I already got her Uh oh, you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Even ask me if I wanted to go in on it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get her anything. I was trying to make
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  Speaker 2: a joke, but.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you we got to get her a little
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  Speaker 1: something something, Yeah, for sure, but really, seriously, I just
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  Speaker 1: again this, see this is how I am. And I've
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  Speaker 1: actually asked our office manager and they won't give me
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  Speaker 1: an answer. I'm one of those people love to know
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  Speaker 1: everybody's birthdays, uh, you know, including spouse and kids and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That's you. So much of your life is intertwined with
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  Speaker 1: one another that it would be nice to, you know, say,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I walked in here and and somebody
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  Speaker 1: thought enough of me to you know, left a a
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  Speaker 1: birthday card for my wife or one of my kids
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  Speaker 1: or something on the desk. That's just the niceties of life.
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  Speaker 1: I miss all of those.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I hear you. I don't want you to
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  Speaker 2: know any more about me than you do.
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  Speaker 1: I've got plenty because your mom is my friend.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I have no regret.
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  Speaker 1: I know lots about you, and you've you've snuck up
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  Speaker 1: on me and and then I come in my birthday
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, really sack. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If we were just more like that in our own
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  Speaker 1: little circles, maybe those circles would grow and we wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be a bunch of evil, hypocritical, hate and everything about
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  Speaker 1: life type of people. Just between two or three of
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  Speaker 1: us at a time, maybe that virus could spread