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The Pacers Report with Mike Rich (2.160.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the Pacers report with Mike Rich, every Monday on the Central Indian Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, Pacer's fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Pacer's Report with Mike Rich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike and my show notes last week, I wrote that this week, we are going to talk about the trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But suddenly, there's basketball to talk about, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And ourselves a pretty good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three wins in the last four games, all three teams and play off contention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, this spacers team on certain nights is going to be competitive with good teams because as we said before the season, this was going to be a good team even without Tyrese Hall of Burton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now that everybody's healthy, it's a pretty good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a great team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to lose the bad teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to go through bad stretches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your thoughts on what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think they'd come to play when the competition's the better competition in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when it's okay to see or somebody that's playing for a playoff spot, I just want to show that they are still a team that's going to have to be contented with in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're only getting better and better and better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just keep seeing just improvement with these younger players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited about the future for the Pacers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, too, and what it really means is that when Halibut in terms of back next year, they can just kind of flow into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've been talking about this all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're blowing it with the draft thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are back down to third, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as long as they're playing well, I think Pacer's fans can be excited going in next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the feel from the players and Carlisle, he said it after the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other night I was listening to something he was talking to a reporter and he's like these fans just continue to come out and support this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're a fun team to watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have it and all star on the team now, and which is outstanding to see Pascal Siocom absolutely earn that all starspot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been saying it all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought with the record, he might not make it, but he just kind of played his way to where he couldn't be ignored.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote a lot of hate on that to today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just kind of like, I think it was reported a couple hours ago and I was
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[SPEAKER_00]: on some platform and it's like how can somebody make the all-star team on one of the worst teams that's tanking and I'm like, you don't watch the Pacers play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not one of the worst teams in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're records one of the worst in the league, but they're not one of the worst teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to be a fantastic team and and I have not seen this team in one game that I've watched tank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They come to play every night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the problem has been they've been playing guys who don't belong in NBA games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The best players have been there for the most part, but there's been no depth and that's been an issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you'll lose one of the good players at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you lose any one of those guys, they're just not going to be very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, matter is it is a prime example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just coming back off of an injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had NEM hard knee spent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were both out for some extended time being without Haliburton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we were picking people up off the street to play on this team early in this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a bunch of guys on this team this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had never heard of before this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a bunch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and they were starting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but he sets up then that they've won three to the last four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the key aspects of them winning is the consistent starting lineup because the last four games have had the same has had the same starting lineup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that to a Jared Walker did the jump ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was kind of interesting with the, and during the Ox game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's right, they kind of enforced to do this, but it seems to be working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kind of playing on the center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing with the center of the second team with Huff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say Jackson, a little bit, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Huff coming off the bench at the best place for him, he is not a starter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that just creates a weakness on our team from the get-go and that just sets the tone for the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the lineup that they've put out there right now is probably the best option for going forward and I think we're going to win more games than
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we really want to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to stop here in a minute, but you're absolutely right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a fact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you brought up Benedict Maatherin, Mike, because the trade deadline is just now officially four days away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, there is a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maatherin will be traded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not hearing a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With the Pacers, you just never hear anything before something happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have no idea if it is going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a prime target.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here in the name Nick Richards, connected with the Pacers a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the exact kind of center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been talking about a guy who doesn't need the ball, he's athletic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All he does is go get rebounds, he blocks shots, he defends, and he runs before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy, but what are your expectations do I do anything before Thursday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised if they do, and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they put themselves in just a good of a position to keep Mather through the trade deadline, wait to the offseason and trading in the offseason, and see where they're at at the end of the year with their record, and if they need to move up in the draft, if they need to sign and trade him and use him as a piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: down the road, but if they can get what they want right now and pack each matter in that, then I don't see why Kevin Prychard wouldn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, it's a good position, I think, for a general manager to be in team president to be in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just, you know, they have a good opportunity, either way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a win-win for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know why I bothered to bring up names that are potential targets, Mike, because it's never those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time that preachers made a trade, it's been someone you completely didn't expect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There had been some rumors of Miles Turner for Deer and Fox, and then somehow it turned into subonus for Tyreys Halliburton, which, you know, thank God, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But really, if something happens, we're just probably, it's gonna come from out of nowhere
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to come from nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I will not be surprised if something happens at the trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be surprised if nothing happens either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, I said, he preturgeon a good position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he has got a fantastic team and a fantastic future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, super, super excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been watching a little bit and hearing that, you know, Haliburton has been playing three on three, four on four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we top and looks like he's going to be out a little longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hold him off a little bit, but he's on his way back to and I don't know, you know, if they're looking at the trade deadline, if
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a top end and modern and who else would, you know, could you pack each to get what you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the next question is, any of these guys would they make you, would it make you really sad if they left a Benedict Maveran, Jaris Walker would that make you sad at this point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've seen some improvement, but with that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'd be if if I was going to be sad about a player being packaged and leaving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would I would miss top and more than any of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I I really love his energy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I I loved what he did in the finals last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I wouldn't want to see them are to niece met there someone or like McConnell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't want any of those to leave and if they were ever going anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I, I would be sad if it was the right move for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it has been good to see Walker make some improvements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He started to look a little bit like the guy we were expecting to see at the beginning of the year, still not quite there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's shooting though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been even better than we expected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's gotten a lot better than it was in the beginning of this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, we were saying that he shouldn't be allowed to take any more three points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, stop shooting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not making them, but shooter shoot and just keep shooting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been on a pretty good streak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just, you know, he has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him, you know, with the ball on his hand, he makes good decisions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He makes good passes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can shoot the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's got all the skills of tools.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he'd be in a track to piece to trade, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also liked that he was drafted here and he's kind of grown through the G league and into the starting lineup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he really hates saying, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I don't think I would be sad about it if he was packed each to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are three absolute untouchables, uh, Tirees Haliburton T. J. McConnell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think T. J. McConnell's going to be part of the franchise going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just too valuable, locker room, you know, all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Johnny Furfie, I just think he's untouchable right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he might be really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's growing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching the happen in front of us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're watching it happen right in front of our eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still a kid talking about growing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen Haliburton?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard rumors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 210 pounds from 180.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I tell you what, after I hurt my knee, I gained a lot of weight too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I mean, once he goes up and down the court, and he's doing five on five, I mean, some of that's going to shed, but I'm hoping he's some of this is he's in the gym working out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mine was fat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His is probably most of the muscle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's really been an opportunity to him to work on things that he wouldn't normally get a chance to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I, I would love to see Tyre's Haliburton move as fast as he, he did at a 180 pounds at 200.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just so scary force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just told that that extra weight doesn't cause any more problems because that's one more you're not need is a franchise ending injury because that's what it would be now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you get another permanent injury, it's franchise ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a part of our long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that that will that will sting for a long time well it's just hope that doesn't happen to get all right Mike one more thing I want to talk about here in just second Mike did you happen to catch the Kansas BYU game on Saturday with two potential spacers
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of have reviewed some of the stats and was kind of watching it on ESPN as they was going back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like both of them had pretty decent games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Bonzo had, like, two points until Mid-Way through the second half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think something like that, and then he just took off, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peterson so smooth, so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got great hands on defense, but again, he only played 18 minutes in the game because of cramps, and he's got to be available, or he's going to start losing some of that draft stock because availability is a big deal in the NBA now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's missed, I think, nine games this season, and it's been cramps, ankle, hamstring injury, so that, that just concerns me with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, but he's got to be able to be able to get in the gym and work out, you know, and not get injured.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not, not these tough tissue kind of things, not hamstrings and, you know, I don't understand an ankle, but cramps, I mean, what it, what is that out is he out, partying too much and drinking too much than I before, what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just dehydrated and not enough hydration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably not, or definitely make you wonder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's gotta be something there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's refusing to stretch, you know, what was the deal here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, give the kid an IV and having stretch, super talented.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's there, it'd be interesting to see how he does in March.
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[SPEAKER_01]: both of those guys are great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be fantastic NBA players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think the guys Caleb Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can get him and just plug him in at center with the way they play, if you have the choice of all three, what do you take?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I take Caleb Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Although Cameron Booser would probably be the guy who would help you win right now and they're probably in right win right now mode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: drop off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Although I'm hearing a lot about Kingston Fleming's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll watch him a freshman point guard from Houston and let everybody know what our thoughts on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a higher on some draft boards and Caleb Wilson, which I don't get, but I haven't seen enough of Fleming's yet to really make a judgment, but we will keep our eye on this because
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like I can't wait for the season to end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The see what happens here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really an exciting potential that we've never had with this franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A guy who is first team all in be every year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there might be one of or two of those guys in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be pretty cool and Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be really cool and Indianapolis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the core of this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sky skies the limit in twenty six twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And beyond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And beyond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there would be times in our lies for certain that we wouldn't have trusted the general manager to make the next right move and then they probably didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: most of the time though it's they've been pretty good general managers and this one I feel pretty good about him making the right choices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last three or four times I disagreed with what he did he turned out to be right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So tells me he knows what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a new daily podcast called Greg and his friend stalk sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are a guest all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every, every so often on the podcast, I do a simulated draft lottery to see what the odds are and what today the Pacers would get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna hit the simulate lottery right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it says that they would be the sixth pick and they would draft Nate Amit from Tennessee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to start watching him some too because he's another possibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's six 10 as well and very skilled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, in an normal draft, he'd probably be a good second third pick kind of guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course we're going to be that that's where I predicts six through eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's a very good possibility at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six through eight is a possibility, but you guys and trade ships to be able to move up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he's really good at this or.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He turns whatever they have into a veteran and we're happy with that as well, but we'll wait and see it's all in front of us, but really excited to kind of get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing I'm bored by the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The season has been very fascinating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it has been a fascinating season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what's going on at the top of the NBA right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm paying more attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's at the bottom of the NBA?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is odd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year we went 50 games this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're at 13.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got two winnable games in front of us tonight in tomorrow and I really think this team could could go on a pretty decent win streak and they keep starting the same starters they have or by stays healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be competitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to end up, I think seventh worst record in the NBA is what I think is going to end up happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we'll probably be right there with the lottery pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I will say that there are tricks up their sleeves if they're committed to getting a high draft pick that they could use for sure trades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what Kaylin Peter and Cam Jones have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to them some minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are things that can start doing if they want to pull back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The players ever choose to, of course, tank.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you should never ask them to lose ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the front office can make it so that it's more likely to lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They definitely come out to play every night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They put the best product on the floor that they can right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're exciting to watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They scored a 129 points and, you know, against the Hawks, which was, and it was down to the wire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it took all 129 points to win that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a point in this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not think it was going to be an interesting season, and it served as turned out to be one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was glad that you... Yeah, it was a good game, and it was fun to watch, and it makes the season interesting to see what's going to happen with this team, and where's we're going to land at the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting what they're going to do with the trade deadline coming up here in a couple of days, just a lot of excitement and then the offseason's going to be super exciting too, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's going to be more exciting than the rest of the season to be honest with you, the offseason's going to be amazing to see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We play the bucks Friday, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we'll see what their roster looks like to have the pacer start winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want them to be I want them to finish higher than the box That's all it matters It would be awesome They ended the scene were a better rest because of the box Oh, man, and they held they may be without youngness They're probably probably
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[SPEAKER_01]: out of him if they let him go any further.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not getting any value and they're not going to be able to put anything around miles, Turner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how they have built.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got your anchor there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you got to put some things around me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get the pieces around me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's led the team and rebounding four games this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing.
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Led the team and scoring.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I think four times this year too.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, Miles, we love you.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: One day, we will love you again.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We will.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're at Milwaukee.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get eight.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: My grits, I do love you.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're my brother.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much as always.