Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Virginia Robert's Rejects Ghislaine Maxwell's Summary Judgement Push (Part 2) (6/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
- 0:06left off with Virginia Roberts and her response to Glaine
- 0:10Maxwell seeking a summary. Judgment two, it is an undisputed
- 0:15fact that Tony Figaroa testified that defendant would call him
- 0:19to bring over underage girls and that the defendant and
- 0:23Epstein would have threesomes with Miss Roberts. Tony Figaroa testified
- 0:28that plaintiff told them about the threesomes Miss Roberts had
- 0:31with defendant and Epstein, which included the use of straponds.
- 0:35Question and tell me everything that you remember about what
- 0:38Miss Roberts said about being intimate with Miss Maxwell and
- 0:42mister Epstein at the same time, Figaroa responds, I remember
- 0:46her talking about like strap bonds and stuff like that,
- 0:49but I mean, like I said, all the details are
- 0:52not really that clear, but I remember her talking about
- 0:55like how they would always be using that stuff like that.
- 1:00Question she and Miss Maxwell and mister Epstein would use
- 1:02strap ons. Figureoa responds, uh huh. Question, other than sex
- 1:09with the Prince, is there anyone else that Jeffrey wanted
- 1:11Miss Roberts to have sex with that she relayed to you.
- 1:16Answer mainly like I said, just miss Maxwell and all
- 1:19the other girls. Question miss Maxwell wanted Jeffrey wanted Virginia
- 1:24to have sex with Miss Maxwell? Answer and him? Yeah.
- 1:30Question and did she tell you whether she had ever
- 1:32done that? Answer yeah, she said she did. Question and
- 1:37what did she describe having happened? Answer I believe I
- 1:40already told you that with the straponds and dildos and
- 1:43everything redacted or redacted. Figaroa also testified that defendant called
- 1:48him to ask if he had found any other girls
- 1:50for Epstein, thereby acting as a procurer of girls for Epstein.
- 1:56Question when Glenn Maxwell would call you during the time
- 1:59that you were with Virginia, she would ask you what specifically?
- 2:03Answer just if I found other girls to bring to Jeffrey.
- 2:08Question okay, Answer pretty much every time there was a
- 2:12conversation with any of them, it was either asking Virginia
- 2:16where she was at or asking her to go get girls,
- 2:19or asking me to go get girls. Question okay, well,
- 2:23tell me when did miss Maxwell ask you to bring
- 2:25a girl? Answer? Never in person, It was like literally
- 2:29like on the phone, maybe like once or twice. Question,
- 2:32all right, did miss Maxwell call you frequently? Answer No,
- 2:37question all right? How many times did you think miss
- 2:40Maxwell called you at all? Answer? I'd just say that
- 2:44probably just a few, a couple of times, maybe once
- 2:47or twice, question one or two. Answer. The majority of
- 2:51the time it was pretty much his assistant. Question, how
- 2:55do you know miss Maxwell's voice? Answer because she sounds British.
- 3:00Question so someone with a British accent called you once
- 3:03or twice and asked for answer, Well, she told me
- 3:06who she was. Question okay, and what did she say
- 3:10when she called you and asked you to bring girls? Answer?
- 3:14She just said, Hi, this is Golaine. Jeffrey was wondering
- 3:17if you had anybody that could come over. Three. It
- 3:20is an undisputed fact that Ronaldo Rizzi testified that defendant
- 3:24took the passport of a fifteen year old Swedish girl
- 3:27and threatened her when she refused to have sex with
- 3:30Epstein Rinaldo. Rizzy was the house manager for one of
- 3:34defendant's close friends, Eva Dubin. Mister Rizzo testified through tears
- 3:39how while working at Dubin's house, he observed defendant bring
- 3:42a fifteen year old Swedish girl to Dubin's house in distress.
- 3:47The fifteen year old girl tearfully explained to him that
- 3:50defendant tried to force her to have sex with Epstein
- 3:53through threats and stealing her passport. Question how old was
- 3:57this girl? Answer? Fifteen years old? Question described to me
- 4:01what the girl looked like, including her demeanor and anything
- 4:04else you remember about her when she walks into the kitchen.
- 4:08Answer very attractive, beautiful, young girl, makeup, very put together,
- 4:12casual dress, but seemed to be upset, maybe distraught, and
- 4:16she was shaking. And as she sat down, she sat
- 4:19down and sat in the stool exactly the way the
- 4:22girls that I mentioned to you sat at Jeffrey's house,
- 4:25with no expression and with her head down. But we
- 4:28could tell that she was very nervous. Question what do
- 4:31you mean by distraught and shaking? What do you mean
- 4:34by that? Answer? Shaking? I mean literally quivering. Question what
- 4:39did she say? Answer? She proceeds to tell my wife
- 4:43and I that and this is not this is blurting out,
- 4:47not a conversation like I'm having casual conversation that quickly.
- 4:51I was on an island. I was on the island,
- 4:53and there was Glaine. There was Sarah. She said they
- 4:57asked for sex. I said no, and she is just
- 5:00rambling and I'm like what, and she said, I asked her,
- 5:04I said what, and she says, yes, I was on
- 5:06the island. I don't know how I got from the
- 5:08island to Hear last afternoon or in the afternoon. I
- 5:12was on the island and now I'm here. And I said,
- 5:14do you have a This is not making any sense
- 5:17to me. And I said this is nuts. Do you
- 5:19have a passport? Do you have a phone? And she
- 5:21says no. And she says Glainne took my passport. And
- 5:25I said what. And she says, Sarah took her passport
- 5:28and her phone and give it to Glaine Maxwell. And
- 5:30at that point she said she was threatened and I
- 5:33said threatened. She said yes, I was threatened by Glaine
- 5:36Maxwell not to discuss this. And I'm just shocked. So
- 5:40the conversation and she is just rambling on and on again,
- 5:43like I said, how she got here? She doesn't know
- 5:46how she got here. Again, I asked her, did you
- 5:49contact your parents? And she says no. At that point,
- 5:53she says, I'm not supposed to talk about this. I said,
- 5:56but I said, how did you get here? I don't understand.
- 6:00We were totally lost for words. And she said that
- 6:03before she got there, she was threatened again by Jeffrey
- 6:06and Golaine not to talk about what I had just
- 6:09mentioned earlier, and she said that she was used for sex.
- 6:13Question and during this time that you're saying she is rambling,
- 6:16is her demeanor continues to be what you described it? Answer? Yes? Question?
- 6:22Was she in fear? Yes question? Could you tell answer? Yes?
- 6:27Answer she was shaking uncontrollably. Now, just to interject here,
- 6:32how do you let that even occur? How does mister
- 6:34rizzou let that occur and not directly grab this girl
- 6:38and take her to the nearest police station. Or if
- 6:41you really want to go down as a hero, don't
- 6:43you just break Jeffrey Epstein's face right then and there?
- 6:46I know I would have. It would have been well
- 6:48worth it. Number four, It is an undisputed fact that
- 6:52Lynn Miller testified that she believed defendant became Robert's new mama.
- 6:57Lynn Miller is Robert's mother. She testified that when Roberts
- 7:01started living with defendant, defendant became Robert's new mama. Incredulously.
- 7:06Defendant testified that she barely remembered Miss Roberts. Five. It
- 7:11is an undisputed fact that Detective Joseph Riccerry testified that
- 7:15he sought to investigate defendant in relation to his investigation
- 7:19of Jeffrey Epstein. Detective Ricerry led the Palm Beach Police
- 7:23investigation of Epstein. He testified that defendant procured girls for
- 7:28Epstein and that he sought to question her in relation
- 7:31to his investigation, but could not contact her due to
- 7:34the interference of Epstein's lawyer. Question cross reference of Jeffrey
- 7:39Epstein's residence revealed which affiliated names? Answer? It revealed Nadia Marsenkova,
- 7:45Glene Maxwell, Mark Epstein. Also the cross reference any previous
- 7:49reports from the residents as well? Question during your investigation,
- 7:54did you learn of any involvement that Nadia Marsenkova had
- 7:58with any of the activities that you were in investigating?
- 8:01Question The other name that is on here as a
- 8:03cross reference is Glean Maxwell. Did you speak with Glen Maxwell? Answer?
- 8:08I did not. Question did you ever attempt to speak
- 8:11with Glene Maxwell? Answer? I wanted to speak with everyone
- 8:15related to this home, including miss Maxwell. My contact was
- 8:19through Gus Attorney Gus Fronstin at the time, who initially
- 8:23had told me that he would make everyone available for
- 8:25an interview, and subsequent conversations later no one was available
- 8:29for an interview and everybody had an attorney and I
- 8:33was not going to be able to speak with them. Question, Okay,
- 8:36during your investigation, what did you learn in terms of
- 8:38Gline Maxwell's involvement, if any? The witness Miss Maxwell during
- 8:43her research, was found to be Epstein's longtime friend. During
- 8:47the interviews, Miss Maxwell was involved in seeking girls to
- 8:50perform massages and work at Epstein's home number six. It
- 8:55is an undisputed fact that pilot David Rodgers testified that
- 8:59he flew to the fan and Miss Roberts at least
- 9:01twenty three times on Epstein's jet, the Lolita Express, and
- 9:05that GM on the flight log stands for Glain Maxwell.
- 9:10Notably at defendants deposition, defendant refused to admit that she
- 9:14flew with Miss Roberts and denied that she appeared on
- 9:17Epstein's pilot's flight logs. However, David Rogers, Epstein's pilot, testified
- 9:23that the passenger listed on his flight logs bearing the
- 9:26initials GM was in fact Ghlaine Maxwell, and that he
- 9:29was the pilot on at least twenty three flights in
- 9:32which defendant flew with plaintiff. The dates of those flights
- 9:36show that Miss Roberts was an underage child on many
- 9:39of them when she flew with defendant number seven. It
- 9:43is an undisputed fact that Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marsonkova, and
- 9:47Jeffrey Epstein invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about defendant's
- 9:50trafficking girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Both Sarah Kellen and Nadia
- 9:55Marsonkova lived with Jeffrey Epstein for many years. They both
- 9:59invoked Fifth Amendment when asked about defendants participation in recruiting
- 10:04underage girls for sex with Epstein. Marston Cova testified as follows, question,
- 10:10did Glenn Maxwell work as a recruiter for young girls
- 10:13for Jeffrey Epstein when you met her? Marsonkova same answer,
- 10:18invoking the fifth question, have you observed Glen Maxwell and
- 10:22Jeffrey Epstein convert what started as a massage with these
- 10:26young girls into something sexual? Again? She takes the fifth
- 10:31Kellen testified as follows, did Glen Maxwell work as a
- 10:34recruiter for young girls? For Jeffrey Epstein when you met her. Answer,
- 10:39on advice of my counsel, I must invoke the Fifth
- 10:41Amendment and the sixth Amendment privilege. Question isn't it true
- 10:45that Glenn Maxwell would recruit underage girls for sex and
- 10:49sex acts with Jeffrey Epstein. Answer on advice of my counsel,
- 10:54I must invoke my Fifth and sixth Amendment privilege. Similarly,
- 10:58Jeffrey Epstein invoked the Fifth Amendment when asked about defendant's
- 11:02involvement in procuring underage girls for sex with them. Question
- 11:07Maxwell was one of the main women whom you used
- 11:10to procure underage girls for sexual activities? True the witness
- 11:14fifth question, Maxwell was a primary co conspirator in your
- 11:19sexual abuse scheme. True Epstein fifth question. Maxwell was a
- 11:24primary co conspirator in your sex trafficking scheme. True Epstein
- 11:29fifth question. Maxwell herself regularly participated in your sexual exploitation
- 11:35of miners. True Witness fifth eight. It is an undisputed
- 11:40fact that Juana Lessi testified that defendant was one of
- 11:43the people who procured over one hundred girls he witnessed
- 11:47visited Epstein, and that he had to clean defendant sex toys.
- 11:51Wana Lessie was Epstein's house manager. He testified as follows.
- 11:55Question and over the course of that ten year period
- 11:59while Miss Maxim while was at the house. Do you
- 12:01have any approximation as to the number of different females
- 12:05females that you were told were a massage therapists that
- 12:08came to the house. Alessi, I cannot give you a number,
- 12:11but I would say probably over one hundred in my
- 12:14stay there question, I don't think I asked that right
- 12:17the question that I was looking to ask, So let
- 12:19me go back. Did you go out looking for the girls? Answer?
- 12:23No question to bring answer never question as the massage therapist,
- 12:28ALESSI never question who did answer Miss Maxwell? Mister Epstein
- 12:34and their friends because their friends relate to other friends,
- 12:38they knew a massage therapist and they would send to
- 12:40the house. So it was referrals question. Did you have
- 12:44occasion to clean up after the massages? Answer yes, question okay,
- 12:49and that is after both a massage for Jeffrey Epstein
- 12:52as well as clean up after a massage that Glen
- 12:55Maxwell may have received. Answer yes, question and on occasion
- 13:00after in cleaning up after a massage of Jeffrey Epstein
- 13:03or Glenn Maxwell, did you have ocasion to find vibrators
- 13:07or sex toys that will be left out? Answer? Yes,
- 13:10I did. All right, We're going to wrap up with
- 13:13episode two right there, and in the next episode on topic,
- 13:16we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
- 13:19information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 13:22the description box.