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Jaguars Happy Hour | August 14, 2025 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August fourteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Heritage of
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  Speaker 1: North Florida and now fresh off last night's appearance of
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  Speaker 1: the season premiere of Love Is fag J P.
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  Speaker 2: Chack and Welcome Man. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
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  Speaker 2: Heritage of North Florida, Jacksonville's premiere roofing and Remodeling company,
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  Speaker 2: J P. Shadwick, Jeff Logman, Busy Hour ahead really two hours.
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen Show at five o'clock. Here's what's coming up
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  Speaker 2: on Happy Hour. A scrimmage review. Jaguars went through it today.
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  Speaker 2: They're working through details all week long, coming off that
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  Speaker 2: Steelers game, and we'll look head to the Jaguars Saints
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  Speaker 2: and of course, as we said, the Liam Cohen Show
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  Speaker 2: at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network WIF James
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  Speaker 2: GLADSTONA and Tony Bassellian studio for the fourth consecutive week
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  Speaker 2: web Coach Cohen. Starting week one, We're on ten ten
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  Speaker 2: XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: YouTube and a special guest in studio with us on
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy hour today, longtime NFL linebackers coach, including with
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  Speaker 2: the Jags from six to twenty thirteen, two stints as
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  Speaker 2: an NFL defensive coordinator, former head coach at the University
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  Speaker 2: of Maryland and at Holy Cross. Started his career at
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five as a grad assistant under Woody Hayes
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State. The Great Mark Duffner is in studio
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  Speaker 2: with US today, coach. How are you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing great, JP. Appreciate that introduction, really really special since.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hell of a career and it's not over yet,
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  Speaker 2: we're hoping that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't remember that duff is the longest tenured
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars coach in history, which is pretty spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: How many how many different head coaches were you involved
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  Speaker 2: with here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was with three, I was with Jack, I
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  Speaker 3: was with Mike Malarkey, and then I was with Gus
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  Speaker 3: So I was with three different head coaches and actually
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  Speaker 3: an interim Mel Tucker was in there. Four. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: I was loved being here a lot. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was great to come here.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, you didn't hear the intro there, and
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  Speaker 4: Joe was you know, was saying that the main star
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  Speaker 4: of the show Love is Bald.
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  Speaker 2: Here's how gullible I am.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I was googling that, by the way, right after
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  Speaker 4: the drug Is that really a show that I have
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  Speaker 4: to deal.
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  Speaker 2: With every week? This is what happens here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, You've kept the home here since you started here.
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  Speaker 3: Right two thousand and six. Yeah, I kept my house
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  Speaker 3: in Ponta Vidra. And you know when I left here
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  Speaker 3: to go to Miami, in Cincinnati and Tampa, I stayed
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  Speaker 3: in an apartment. My wife went back and forth. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm never leaving here. This is the greatest place
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  Speaker 3: to live in the country.
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people don't realize how many
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  Speaker 4: coaches have stayed. I mean you, Mike Malarkey, Tom Coughlin,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Tom Cofflin won two Super Bowls in New York.
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  Speaker 2: And he's living here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Russ Pernell, former special teams coordinati Sutton's down here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's and it's amazing how many coaches want
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  Speaker 3: to come back if they're not if they haven't come back,
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  Speaker 3: they want to come back. I mean, And so it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's been a very special place to not only players,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot to the coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to work on that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the there's always been kind of a fraternity
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  Speaker 4: of former players that gather for alumni weekend or Legends weekend,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, we need to work harder at gathering some
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  Speaker 4: of the former Jaguar coaches back because you know, look,
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  Speaker 4: they played a big part of the Jaguars history as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that'd be great. I mean, I hope
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  Speaker 3: you sound that invite out real, real loud, because I
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  Speaker 3: think you'll get a lot of takers on there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna work on that. We got We're going
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  Speaker 4: to figure that out because that that'd be a pretty
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  Speaker 4: cool reunion to gather some of the old coaches some
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  Speaker 4: of the players that they coached. Oh yeah, because you
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  Speaker 4: know that that that's the one thing I think that's
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  Speaker 4: real special about this place. And I mean you've been
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  Speaker 4: a lot of places before. There's not many places like this,
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  Speaker 4: not even close.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what's been so great for me the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks coming back out here, having the privilege
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  Speaker 3: to go out and watch practice, connect with you guys
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  Speaker 3: in terms of people that were here when I was
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  Speaker 3: here before, seeing those people, seeing people in the equipment room.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just former coaches, players, some of the current
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  Speaker 3: players I know, some of this staff I know. I
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  Speaker 3: mean there's nothing like it. I mean the fraternalness and
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  Speaker 3: family neess if you will, that this place presents is
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  Speaker 3: off the charts.
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  Speaker 2: Great. And we're in the middle of Electric Center, We're
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  Speaker 2: in the Hundai studios inside of here. Yeah, you're shaking
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  Speaker 2: your head. A little different than two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, JP. You know, unbelievable. I mean, when
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  Speaker 3: I walked out onto the practice field last week, I said,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. And what they've done
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  Speaker 3: for the fans here to see practice and training camp
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  Speaker 3: and all that, and then this facility here, which I've
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  Speaker 3: seen a little bit of, not all of it, It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about a tangible commitment to excellence. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, mister shod Cohn is ponied up. He's done it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think for player, if I'm a player to
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  Speaker 3: come to Jackson, I'm gonna have world class facilities. I'm
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  Speaker 3: in a tremendous town. We are the only show in town,
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  Speaker 3: so to speak. They've been successful here. I mean check
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  Speaker 3: the boxes. I mean they're all over here on the
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  Speaker 3: left with positive, positive, positive, very good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's absolutely no reason why a free agent would
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  Speaker 4: not want to come here. I mean when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to facilities, I mean everything's there now you even factor
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  Speaker 4: in the place that we live in. And the reality
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  Speaker 4: is is that for a long time, everybody thought it
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  Speaker 4: was just about the money in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's not anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the arms race in college football has spread
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  Speaker 4: to the NFL because facilities matter, amenities matter.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the way it is, no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: into the approach from Liam Cohen this week coming out
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  Speaker 2: of the Steelers game. You know, it felt like at
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  Speaker 2: times on defense and logs chime in on this too,
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  Speaker 2: that there's a lot of guys with their hands up,
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  Speaker 2: like where what's going on? So miscommunication, misalignments and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of yardage on the defense last week, well, he
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  Speaker 2: had an alignment assignment period earlier in the week and
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  Speaker 2: then another scrimmage today to go through almost a complete
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  Speaker 2: game sequence, calling plays, from the sideline benches were out there.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of the approach from coach Cohen
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  Speaker 2: coming off the first preseason game in the performance.
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  Speaker 3: They had, I think it was excellent. I mean I
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  Speaker 3: think he grabbed the bull right by the horns. I
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  Speaker 3: mean what you suggested. I watched the game on TV,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, tempo hurt the defense. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh team got lined up on the ball, no hurry
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  Speaker 3: or hurry up, no huddle type stuff, and that hurt him.
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  Speaker 3: And calls were probably getting in late game mechanics across
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  Speaker 3: the board. Well, you got to practice those secs and
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  Speaker 3: you know you saw in the Steelers game some like
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  Speaker 3: a lot of teams face sometimes times first game, opening
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  Speaker 3: game timing issues on both coaching staff across the board. Well,
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  Speaker 3: for coach to have that walk through alignment assignment adjustment
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  Speaker 3: I think was outstanding. Plus it made the point not
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  Speaker 3: only to the coaches but to the players everybody, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: we got to get this fixed. Let's don't beat ourselves,
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's beat that group across the field. And
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  Speaker 3: then I think what he structured today today was I
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  Speaker 3: think about a fifteen series offense defense scrimmage good against
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  Speaker 3: good ones on ones, twos against twos to try to
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  Speaker 3: shore up that stuff. And I think he answered some
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  Speaker 3: of Now, some of it still reared its head.
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  Speaker 2: But flags out there today again.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but I think I watched the defense
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  Speaker 3: in particular, as far as they got lined up, the
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  Speaker 3: offense came out and oftentimes got no huddle. They were
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  Speaker 3: on the ball, so they you know, they had to
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  Speaker 3: deal with Temple. I watched the communication. Guys were talking
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  Speaker 3: with their hands and their mouths so that there was
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  Speaker 3: none of this you know, you don't want to see,
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  Speaker 3: well what do you mean or what you know, hands
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  Speaker 3: up or my bad or something like that. I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that was you know, tough and you know,
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  Speaker 3: made better. And I think that you know, the communication
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  Speaker 3: from the coaches to the players getting the call in
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  Speaker 3: so they're staring down that offense, you know, looking at
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  Speaker 3: him and ready to roll. So I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that was addressed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Liam talked about it and use the term, you know,
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  Speaker 4: let's get our cleats in the grass, so to speak,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, and it's a very proper term. And he
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  Speaker 4: said even took it back a little bit to the
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  Speaker 4: pop Warner you know days, which you know, let's get
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  Speaker 4: lined up, you know, then get lined up quickly. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think the concerning part is is that
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  Speaker 4: people say, well, if you get lined up, then you're okay,
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  Speaker 4: Well you want to get lined up early, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as a player, if you get lined up and you've
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  Speaker 4: got your assignment knowledge squared away and it's firm and
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  Speaker 4: everybody's firm, and that now once you get lined up,
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  Speaker 4: now your eyes are talking with your teammates and then
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  Speaker 4: your eyes are looking at the opponent, and then you
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  Speaker 4: can digest okay, what's the formation, Now, what's the stances? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I can communicate to him, hey watch this, look out
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  Speaker 4: for that. And if you're not and if you're rushing
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  Speaker 4: to get lined up, then you're not doing any of
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  Speaker 4: that and you're not preparing whatsoever for the play or
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  Speaker 4: to react to the play, and so it sets you
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  Speaker 4: back even further than just getting lined up.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of people think, well, you're just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit late start.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's a late start, but then it becomes later
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  Speaker 4: because you're not doing any of that pre snap reading
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  Speaker 4: of the opponent. And so that needs to be fixed
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  Speaker 4: this week. And I think most of the the biggest
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  Speaker 4: improvements typically come from the first game to the second
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  Speaker 4: game in the preseason, and I think you'll see.
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  Speaker 2: A very big improvement.
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  Speaker 4: And they worked that mechanics today and that scrimmage do
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  Speaker 4: they They had the guys that were considered up in
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  Speaker 4: the coaches booth, which there's no coaches booth was at
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  Speaker 4: Miller Electric Center, but they were up in the balcony.
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  Speaker 2: They had one coach in ev P.
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  Speaker 4: Busselli's box up there and then another coach of offense
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  Speaker 4: and one defense and the other the other one and
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  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's balcony up there, so that they could essentially
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  Speaker 4: play like it is game day, you know, the mechanics
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  Speaker 4: of it.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully that helps.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's definitely going to help.
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  Speaker 3: And what you were talking about is when you get
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  Speaker 3: lined up fast, then you can read the indicators that
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  Speaker 3: coach was just talking about, jeffs is talking about in
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  Speaker 3: terms of what the offense is going to tell you
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  Speaker 3: pre snap. And sometimes those indicators are like the big billboard.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're blatant what they're.
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  Speaker 5: Going to do.
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  Speaker 3: But like if, as Jeff said, if you can't get
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  Speaker 3: lined up in time to see that and hone in
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  Speaker 3: on it, shoot you behind the eight ball, And that's
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  Speaker 3: exactly what the offense wants to do to the defense
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  Speaker 3: those pre snap McCant tools that they can use, temple motion, cadence.
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  Speaker 3: Today I saw our offense using a hard count and
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  Speaker 3: cadence and mixing that up to try and they got
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  Speaker 3: the defense a couple of times. All easy stuff to
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  Speaker 3: do to try to distract the defense.
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  Speaker 2: So give you an idea, JP. So as a defensive end,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I would get the line scrimmage, break
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  Speaker 2: the huddle, we got the call, okay, get the strength
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  Speaker 2: call left or right? And okay, now I know am
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  Speaker 2: I in to go six? Or am I in a five?
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  Speaker 4: You know, playing defensive end, which is an alignment based
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  Speaker 4: on the defense. Once I lined up, then my eyes
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  Speaker 4: went to me lead to the formation, and I already
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  Speaker 4: knew the down and distance in the back of my mind.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm looking at the formation, and then when I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at the formation, I'm looking at the stands of
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  Speaker 4: the guy right in front of me, and the stands
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  Speaker 4: of the guy right in front of He can tell
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  Speaker 4: you some things, but then there's more that you can
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  Speaker 4: determine from other stances.
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  Speaker 2: As well.
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  Speaker 4: I'll look at the backside guard because at the back
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  Speaker 4: side guard is sitting light and then a guy on
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  Speaker 4: top of me is sitting heavy. Pretty good chance that
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be an open sixth counter. Here comes
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  Speaker 4: up backside guard and I'm gonna mash him right in
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  Speaker 4: a face. Okay, So that's one of the things I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to. Or the quarterback, what's the stagger of
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  Speaker 4: his feet. A lot of times quarterbacks and they don't
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  Speaker 4: even know it. They change their stance under center based
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  Speaker 4: on whether they're just under center taking a hand off
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  Speaker 4: or giving a handoff away, or they're trying to hurry
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  Speaker 4: up and turn out and get a seven step drop.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'm looking at the knuckles, you know, wait forward,
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  Speaker 4: his weight back, you look at all of that.
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  Speaker 2: You need to look.
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  Speaker 4: At down the line of scrimmage from a defensive end perspective. Also,
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  Speaker 4: I look at that backside guard. But then I also
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  Speaker 4: can see where everybody that is. Everybody is real tight
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  Speaker 4: to the line of scriptage. Chances are it's not going
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  Speaker 4: to be a drop back pass because the tackles want
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  Speaker 4: to set back a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: If it's going to be dropped back pass, yea.
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  Speaker 3: These are you know, tremendous coaching points that he just
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  Speaker 3: gave everybody right here, and that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 3: But you can do that when a couple of things happen.
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  Speaker 3: When you can when you're lined up early enough, Number two,
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  Speaker 3: you know your defense. You're not thinking about what my
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  Speaker 3: alignment and assignment adjustment is. Now I can jump on
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  Speaker 3: those indicators to attack, to advance the play, to be
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  Speaker 3: ready for anything that they could do, run or pass.
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  Speaker 3: All these things are right there, and that allows you
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  Speaker 3: to play faster. And you know, Zach Thomas, a great
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  Speaker 3: linebacker to played at Miami. This guy's talent level was
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  Speaker 3: probably more in the average range in terms of a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pro players, but his ability to key and
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  Speaker 3: diagnose pre snap, reading indicators, reading stances, reading alignments, backfields, formations,
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  Speaker 3: all those things gave him an edge. And we're always
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  Speaker 3: looking for that edge to try to get moving towards
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  Speaker 3: what run or pass.
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  Speaker 2: Quicker than that, think you can coach. Mark Duffner is
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  Speaker 2: with us real quick. When you get promoted from position
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  Speaker 2: coach to coordinator for the first time, or from coordinator
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  Speaker 2: to head coach, how long does it take you to
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  Speaker 2: get that operation and you're wearing a headset for the
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  Speaker 2: first time. You're actually calling a defense for the first
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  Speaker 2: time instead of just talking to the defensive coordinator. How
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  Speaker 2: different is that for a first time coordinator in the NFL?
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  Speaker 3: It takes some time, you know, it takes some time
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  Speaker 3: to get used to doing that. You haven't been doing that.
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  Speaker 3: You'd like to think, you know you can do it,
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  Speaker 3: and oftentimes you know, you start to do that even
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  Speaker 3: when you're watching film. If you think you have goals
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  Speaker 3: to be a coordinator, you start to practice a little
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  Speaker 3: bit with what your current game plan is and you
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  Speaker 3: start going through the mechanics. But there's nothing like the
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  Speaker 3: when the bullets are really flying on how to get
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  Speaker 3: that done. In factor reminds me when I have a
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  Speaker 3: story you're talking about. This wasn't my first time, but
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  Speaker 3: when I went to Miami from here in the first
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  Speaker 3: game we had was against doing as Tom Brady. It's
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  Speaker 3: in Miami. The head sets come out in the first drive.
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  Speaker 3: My two of my starting linebackers get hurt there out
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  Speaker 3: of the game, and before the first drive, after they
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  Speaker 3: get out of the game, the headsets go down. So
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  Speaker 3: now and I'm talking to a new player where I
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  Speaker 3: was trying to talk to him. The headsets are down,
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  Speaker 3: so now I'm signaling to him and Jez will Pete.
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  Speaker 3: You think about you know what else? Good Lord, what
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  Speaker 3: else is going to happen here? But you had we
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  Speaker 3: have to roll. So that's why I think these what
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  Speaker 3: they're doing in terms of the practice mechanics Jeff talked
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  Speaker 3: about here, in terms of how it's going to go
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  Speaker 3: in a game, can't be can't be matched. It's great,
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  Speaker 3: and you know they I want as much of that
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  Speaker 3: as a coordinator as I can get.
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  Speaker 2: Plenty more ahead. We'll come back in a moment. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have our obligatory Travis Hunter update when we come back.
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  Speaker 2: See what he had to do today? A little bit
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  Speaker 2: of both. Yeah, he was all over the field today.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's good competitiveness out here, guys going at it,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: you know, competing, try to make each other better. So
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I thought that was the I guess the positive in today.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: A little sloppy offensively.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: I thought we started great, had a long I don't
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: know how many plays.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: It was a long.
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: Drive to Star went and scored, and then from there, defense,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: you know, picked it up a little bit, and we
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: had some some mistakes, just self inflicted wounds kind of
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: in the story of Camp of trying to clean up
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: some of that stuff pre snap. So just got to
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: clean up the operation, the mistakes that you know, the
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: defense doesn't inflict on you, you do on yourself. So
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: all those mistakes are we just got to get better
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: and cleaner. But I thought there were some good competition
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: guys flying around, so there were some goods and bad.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: We'll watch it, we'll learn from it all.
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  Speaker 2: Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jaguars linebackers coach Mark Dufner in
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: studio with us today. Glad to have you, coach.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Awesome, Really pleased to be here with you.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Really great. He's a ball coach man. He wants a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: talk ball, no doubt. You just want to sit on the.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Beach football No, no, no umbrella, drinks for dote, talk
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: a little ball dog gone right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little offensive football here from the
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback there, and he was talking through some of the
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: issue used for the offense today. Logs, you guys both
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: were out there. They were pretty evident. Some penalties, turnovers, sacks,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: there's a lot happening on the offensive side stuff.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you know there was. I'll say this now. The
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: first drive they went right down the field. I mean
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I thought opening pass really was thrown and Brian Thomas
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Junior had it in the fan. Should have caught that.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: But they went down the field, scored the great run
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: cutback run by Bigsby and wide open actually in which
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen a lot of that, but really good
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: cutback run. So excellent drive starting out, and then they
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: just couldn't get back to the rhythm.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: There was, as you said, penalties where it would stop
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: them or bring them back. It was it looked like
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: there was some miscommunication on some throwing routes. In terms
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: of that. The running game was okay. I think as
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: far as that's concerned. They protected the ball pretty well,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: but you know, there was a couple of breakdowns and
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: protection and it was good to see the rush from
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the defense, but they just couldn't get the rhythm back,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: and so I thought a little too inconsistent, you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in terms of what you were looking for in terms
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: of just moving the change and getting the bonny inch one.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: The one thing that I did not like coming out
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: of the mouth of Trevor Lawrence was that, oh, kind
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: of the story of camp when he's talking about some
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: of the mistakes or whatever self inflicted wounds. Well, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: last time I checked, you're the quarterback okay. And if
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: you're the quarterback, you're the leader.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: And if you're the leader, then you need to lead
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to the point that you're making people uncomfortable. You need
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: to demand more. You demand more of everybody around you,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: You demand more of yourself to get through that. So
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: that's not the story of camp. And I want to
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: see that step more to the forefront was sixteen, it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: your team, it's your offense. Okay, let's go take control
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: of it, grab it by the horn, so to speak,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and grab everybody along and drag them along.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Let's go. It's his offense.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I mean you can sit there and say it's Liam
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Cohane's offense, it's Grant Yudinsky's offense. No, it's sixteen's offense.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: So I want to see him take that next step
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: because him taking that next step is imperative for the
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: success of this franchise.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think it could be said any better than that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: And that's a fact. And this guy's got all the
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: tools to do that, and now's the time. I mean,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: you know, I think they've you got to give kudos
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to the personnel department here. They've upgraded their I mean,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the receiving corps I think is strong. I think the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: running back group is excellent. You've got numerous players there.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think you've got weapon at the tight end position
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: with Strange, So you've got weapons on this offense. We
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: get this offensive line in terms of those starters the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: way they want them and get them and flow sooner.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: You know, in terms of the jail for that group,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: You've got pretty good group out there. And like you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: just said, we can't we can't tolerate beating ourselves. We
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: can't tolerate drops pass drops. Shoot, we're we rep this
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: stuff all day. We got to catch that ball. We
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: can't tolerate, you know, two penalties the first drive the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: other night. You know, the first place can't happen. I mean,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: we're pros and we're in this thing. We're in it
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to win it, and so we're we don't have it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Nobody's got enough talent to beat two teams, meaning us
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and the opponent. We got to beat those suckers. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: we all got to be together and in this thing
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: to win it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I love the fact that that you know, a little
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: adversity now right, I mean adversity after week one, the
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: defense getting cleats in the ground.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's adversity, right, pretty adverse second scrimmage that
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you have in house. Little adversity. Right, offense is not
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: where it needs to be. Offense is making some self
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: inflicted wounds. I mean, look, having to go through that now,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I think is better than just, you know, having everything
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: be all perfect. You know, we're living in analysis wonderland,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: okay for a preseason, because you know, when you have that,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: you know, let's flash back to last year. We kind
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: of had that moment, you know, in preseason, like we're
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: everything's great and fine and Danny, we're going to compete. Well,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: you go down to Miami and you have one bad
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: thing happened, a travel CTMs fumble, and all of a sudden,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: you crap the.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Bed, I mean, for lack of a better term. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: so I like the fact that there's some adversity right now.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it hardens a football team and
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: it teaches them some valuable lessons.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And to the offensive line, they were moving guys around
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: all day to day, both sides of the center. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: mean Anton Harrison moved to left tackle at one point
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and then left just teamed up and didn't finish practice
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: today logs and that's we'll see what that what Liam
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Cohen says tomorrow about.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: That they've been moving guys around the Caerry oga. Even
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Anton Harrison got some snaps in one on ones at
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the other tackle, you know, so so I like it
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: why Milam continues to rep at garden near every position
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: but center.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, he looks really good. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's not one of the best five
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: offensive linemen on this team. I will tell you this,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: he's best offensive lineman finishing place. Pretty good thing to have,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you know, on your character sheet. That is just plays.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: No, we're looking for that, We're looking for finish. That's
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: for darn shre And I agree with you on that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: And I think that you know, really, when you look
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: at the offensive guy line, I've only seen like five practices.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But the guy that's pretty much it's Cleveland who's at
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the left guard, I think, who's been sitting in the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: same spot. They've been rolling people around. I think it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: good to do that. Some of it's because, well, we're
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: prepared if somebody gets hurt. We've got a guy who's got,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: you know, being trained in another spot. But obviously there's
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: some indecision with that, and so there's still, as I said,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: trying to find out who's going to be the best bunch.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: But I like what you said about Milam. I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: this younger fella, Manheim, I guess, is also shown some things.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I think he can be a backup, you know, in
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the center position, center guard area. So but I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: we got to get these tackles squared away, and and uh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you know, I think they I know they know that too.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to why I was kind of
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: looking forward to watching till the injury today of Anton Harrison.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I was going, you know, could he sneak some reps
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: that left tackle this week in New Orleans or something,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: you know, because we saw a little bit of that
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: in the first scrimmage inside the stadium. So I hope
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: it's not anything serious with the ankle or whatever lower
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: leg injury that he had.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: But we'll we'll find out. Monheim just real quick on him.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: People kind of look at him as only a center
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: at SC Southern Cal. He played a lot of positions
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: and he's got some size to him, so I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: he's got flexibility and the one thing that you have
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: to do when you have a backup center, the center's
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: got to be able to play inside at other spots
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: as well. He's got to be able to play left
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: guard and some right guard. And so they've been working
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Monheim at left guard, right guard, and center, and then
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: he'd been doing the same thing with the incumbent backup center.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Oh from Kentucky. Thank you.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Look, we both had a moment about Luke Fortner to
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: look at my sheet right there, Sorry, Luke. Yeah, And look,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I thought Fortner is kind of more of a pure center,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and so I think Monheim's got a little little bit
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: of an advantage there, you know, because he has some
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: past experience playing multiple positions.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: But you know, you know, time will tell. All right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: let's come back in a moment. We'll get our Travis
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Hunter update, and we'll get into this Jaguars defense. Some
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: of the personnel. Your thoughts on, especially the linebacker group.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: That's your fourteen I want dust opinion on that. Yeah,
• 24:20
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  Speaker 6: It takes us just coming in and being ourselves every day,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: being true to ourselves. As far as we obviously know
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: it's a physical sport. We all want to come up
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: with here the physical, but at the end of the day,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: it's either you're gonna win or you're gonna lose, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: don't nobody want to lose. So coming there with that mindset,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I feel like as far as with our defensive perspective,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: we want to be physical, want to stop the run.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: That's our main focus first.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: That is Trayvon Walker earlier this week Jaguars Defensive End
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy I are from the Hyundai
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Studios the Miller Electric Center on ten to XL ninety
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  Speaker 2: two point five FM. JP Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jags
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: linebacker coach Mark Tufner in studio with his one final
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: segment with you What's Up Bloggers? There was a play
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: today and Duff you might remember it. JP you might
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: as well. In the scrimmage.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: So I believe Trayvon was the I can't remember if
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: he was right or left because so Ezra is left.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: So if Trayvon was the left end, Ezra was the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: left guard. Ezra pulls over to Trayvon. Trayvon sees it coming.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It is a collision to end all collisions.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: And it was. I was.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: When I was watching it. As they were approaching each other,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is going to hurt. It's gonna hurt.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And they collided and they both rocked each other to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: no end.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: But forty four like just literally like a statue just
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: kind of shucks off Ezra Cleveland and then makes the hit.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: And I'm going, that's what makes him special, big, strong,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: powerful and great at the point of attack.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Well, let me say this to you. You've defined him
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: very very well, and everybody in the league covets that guy.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I let more candles and shirts that we
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: would get him when he was coming out, and you
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: can imagine no. And I'm just telling you, I like
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: now that I've seen him upfront and personal sense, the
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: draft and all that, Jesus Pete. I mean, he's terrific.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: He's a betterdy.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: He's only going this way. I mean, he's going up, write,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: write it down. He's going to have a hell of
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: a year.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: He had a move and I don't know if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: remember me talking about this JP last week, but I
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: was saying that he's starting to get back of trick,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: so to speak, as a pass rusher. You know, the
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: first couple of years, he's power, you know, speed to power,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and that's really all all of his game. He did
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a move on Anton today that was a chop little
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: chop rip and I was like, ooh yeah, And it
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: was natural because you know, Trayvon's such a power guy,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and you always have to have the compliments or the
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: calendars to your main primary moves. His main move is
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: a power move. So he was going at Anton and
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Anton's getting ready to set the anchors out and kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: of drops the hips, puts the arms out and then
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Trayvon is coming at him and then chop boom by
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: him before Anton even knew that he was in the neighborhood.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It was beautiful move. But it's good to see him
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: making that progress.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I, like you said, I think He's only
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: going to get better and better as he continues to
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: define his game in terms of moves and things like that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a forced to reckon with now. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you put him together with Josh on the other side
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: of me, you do have two guys that command your attention.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Big time coach Mark Dupner in the studio with us,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: we're talking Jaguars defense. Let's move back to the second
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: level now at linebacker and Foyer Leuikan has been in
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the league now for a long time, since eighth year
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Been here for a few years. Devin
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Lloyd former first round draft pick, fourth year, final year
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: of his rookie contract. This year's had Muma was in
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that same draft. This year of Duela has been around
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Third year now, they just got Dennis
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Gardeck in and free agency, eighth year player from Arizona
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: his entire career. What are you in a lot of
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: new faces, a lot of young guys. They they've spent
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: some draft capital here this year, Duff. So what's your
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: after five practices or so, your impressions of the linebacker
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: room and and how does it power this defense?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Well, each of these guys have a lot of strengths,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that they can add I mean
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: for you, oh, I know he's a productive player, now
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: is he. I'd like to see him be a little
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: more of a big play player, but you know, in
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: terms of tackles for loss, in terms of uh, winning
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the one on one sometimes on pressure if they bring
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: him in, you know, affect the quarterback. But he is
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: a very productive player, and that's what you're looking for.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: How many play how many hits does he make for
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: the number of snaps he's in the game. This guy's
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: led or been at the top of the league in
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: terms of production, and that's that speaks highly that that
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: is I'm impressed with that. You know, Devin's a guy
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: that's got real good length, you know. I I kind
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: of looking at him when he was coming out, I said, wait,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: we put him at sam linebacker because of his length,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and he had some success as a rusher, so you
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: could do some things with him off the edge. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: don't know what Anthony's thinking about with him and sub
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: or Nickel defense, if he's going to move him around
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a little bit to take advantage of some of that
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: rush ability. But I like his length in his range.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's I think he's still learning
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: maybe a little bit in terms of the key and
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: diagnosed part of it a little.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I think that I'll say that Combs as a young player,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: he just tends to be around the football. I like
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: his toughness. I mean, he got involved in the fight
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the other day with the running back, and I like,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I just like the fact that he's competitive,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: you know, rookie from Wake four yea, and he shows
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Uh. You know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I think that I kind of like Ventro Miller a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: little bit and what I see him do.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think all of them have roles to
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: fill right now, but I say the guy that commands
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of my attention just because he's so productive,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: is for you, you know. I mean, I just I've
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: admired that that guy's play and it's not easy sometimes
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: when if your line is a little bit uh inconsistent,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: to have that guy be as productive as he is.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And so I think you like that Abdulah. I liked
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: him when he was coming out. Another guy that I
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: think can give you some edge help and some pressure
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: off the edge guard act like we talked about. I mean,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that guy's had success, true success in games as a rusher,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and I know he's a good special teams guy. So, uh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that the group is one that,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: you know, I think is going to add to the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: defense as far as that's concerned. I don't know that
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: there's anybody that's a headliner, I mean, just an unbelievable
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: guy in that group, but it's a it's a solid group.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Jack Kayser, I think, is a good player, smart, tends
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: to be where he needs to be. You know, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: don't know, we'll see what his role continues to be,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: but I know they're, you know, they're giving him a
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: lot of opportunities to show where he can contribute.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I think the issue there at that position is that,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: you know, besides Foyer, because he's you know, he's a
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: proven player. Yeah, you know, the rest of him right
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: now don't have any resume that makes you go wow.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: You know, so you're you're kind of trying to figure
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: it out after Foyer.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And that Gardak might be the closest one to that. Well,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: he's been around the league forever. Well, he's a Sam,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: He's a Sam slash. You know, spinner, slash, edge rusher,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: do it all, special teamer, and he probably has the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: best resume after that. But I mean you're looking at
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: trying to find somebody to fill that second linebacker, the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: primary linebacker role, and I don't think it's going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: be easy. I think it's going to come down to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the wire.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a very interesting roster
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: decision at this group. Each guy has some some good qualities,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: but there's nobody that stands out yet. And Devin Lloyd,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you know, as a first round pick, the reality is
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's standing out either. You know, he
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: still has some issues with not making the right decisions
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: at times, So to me, that's something to definitely watch.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I will say that Branson Colmes, as Duff mentioned, I
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: think has been a guy that's grabbed my attention and
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: we'll see where that goes. But right now, that's a
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: position group to watch very closely. It will be an
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: interesting watch the rest of camp. It's now time for
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: our Travis Hunter Update, our weekly Travis Hunter Update, and
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: this week LOGGS has been both sides of the ball
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: in practice, including today in the scrimmage.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: What do you think today twelve.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched a ton of the film yet of him,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: so it's kind of hard to watch just him, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: when you're watching out there. But you know, to go
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: back to his play in the first preseason game against Pittsburgh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: two things of note. One is that you saw that
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: players wanted to test and when I say test him
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: as far as let's see if he can if we
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: can push his button, so to speak, and get him
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: to respond after the play and take him out of
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: his game. And I don't know if it's a jealousy
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: thing like the WNBA has going on or what, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be interesting to watch as the
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: season evolves. The other two is that when he knows
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: what he's doing, he's amazing. I mean, he's got the athleticism,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the movement skills, I mean, all the special qualities that
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: made him a Heisman winner. But you do see glimpses
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: of when he's not sure. And when anybody's not sure,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: then they can't be the supreme athlete that they're capable
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: of being. So there's still a lot of learning for
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: him going on, and they're still evolving going on, because
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you know, you've got to get them involved with offensive
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: defense at the same time, not just hey, we're going
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: to play in the preseason game for a series on
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: offense and then you know, put you on defense a
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: couple series later. You know, if you're going to do
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: it truly two ways, it has to be you know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: more of that put into play. And so I think
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting to watch how it works in
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: New Orleans this week.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: But like you just said, I was. I was impressed
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: in that first game with how he did handle things
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: and especially he I mean, I think it was in
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: maybe it was the first drive he was in at corner.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: They ran a little run playing and he was he
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: was going to be the force on the back side there,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and they ran a wind back play and he had
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: to come up and we called pin the hip, make
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: that tackle, and it should have made it for a
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: brilliant no gain. He missed the tackle. They got a
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: little bit, he didn't, didn't get unraveled. It's there's no
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: lack of toughness. I've seen that kid make those plays
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: when I watched him, when we were looking at him
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: trying to see what his role was at Colorado. You know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: so Uh, he's got the toughness and all that. I'm
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: with Jeff. I think it's just going to be continued
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: repetition for him. So he can, you know, get his
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: cleach into the ground, if you will, in terms of
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: just settling down and playing.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But he didn't.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Nobody intimidated him or got him distracted from what his
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: focus was. And I think you've got a rare player here. Now,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I mean that's mister obvious here, but he is really
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: good special team I mean athletically.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Well here, here's what is I think not obvious to
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. If you were to take let's
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: say a college defensive playbook and a college offensive playbook
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: and compare those playbooks to the pro level playbook stuff.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: If you had, let's.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Say a pro level playbook, we're on a scale of
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: zero to one hundred as far as difficulty pros at
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: one hundred. Where would a college level playbook rate or
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: rank on that zero to one hundred scale.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I think it'd be maybe in the sixties
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: or fifties or something like that. I don't maybe it
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: would get maybe not that high, maybe not that high.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I know, Uva, we were like maybe a forty forty,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: maybe a thirty eight.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Well, elmo, Yeah, Now this University of Virginia at the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Harvard to the south right there, let.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Me take you very complicated.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Now, his whole coach I happened to talk to you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: this week is linebacker coach. And and of course he
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: loves Jeff. But he told me, he said, Duff, this
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: guy was the smartest player. And he's coached forever and
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: coached a million places, and it was he didn't know
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I was going to say this, but he said that
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: he was the smartest player I ever had. All I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: had to do is tell him one time or show
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: him one time, and it was done. In fact, he
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: said he knew it better than I did.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on, you're talking Jeff.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sincere, no, no I know, and I'm not trying
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: to fatten his head. But this guy, this coach who
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I played ball with in college, uh just couldn't you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: couldn't stop talking about not only the intelligence of Jeff,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: but also nobody finished and practiced harder than he did.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: We had two linebackers and Phil Amation was our coach,
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: and it was me and Billy Griggs and Billy Griggs.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, David Griggs.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Billy Griggs was his older brother who was at UVA
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: before him, just like I had an older brother at
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: UVA before me, and I was, you know, six foot six,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty thirty five and then David Griggs
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: was six foot four, two hundred and thirty five pounds.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about two big, tall inside linebackers.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Does that You don't find that very often.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: You don't find it anywhere. And I told Elma, I said, Elmo,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: you just chewed gum. You didn't have to coach those two.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Pete there we.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Have a pretty good payer. And then we had another
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: guy who was a backup in a rotation by the
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: name of Phil Thomas. It was pretty good too. But
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it wasn't it wasn't very complex in college.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: And but you know, for Travis Hunter, I mean, this
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: is this is very different.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: And I think the.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Challenge, there's a challenge to both offensively and defensively because
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: you have a player. And I think the first instinct
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: as a coach is, hey, let's just limit the package
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: that he's doing, you know, so we can simplify it
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: for him. Well, if you get too simple, then you
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: really I think it's an offense and a defense.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: You get predictable.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: So the challenge is is to make sure that you're
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: not predictable when twelve is on the field, because you're not,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you know, simplifying it so much, you're still you're still
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: running the full playbook on offense and the full playbook
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: on defense. For example, you know, if Travis Hunter is
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: only learning one of the wide receiver positions, then it
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: makes it a little bit easier to kind of get
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: the tells. If Travis Hunter is playing all three of
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver positions and you're mixing it up, Duff
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: as a defensive coordinator, Oh my gosh, I mean, how
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: do you figure that out?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Big time.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: No, that's absolutely correct. If they can let him learn
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: it and don't give any tips away, because we're always
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: looking for that. Anything we can get to, like he said,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: the tells will take. But you get this guy and
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: move him around who it's going to be testing now?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: All right, final thought with you here, Duff, what are
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you looking for in the game on Sunday in the Superdome.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I would say, you know, I think again, first
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: and foremost, everybody stay healthy. You know that'll be the
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: number one goal come out of the same healthy. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I think continuing to improve the communication on both sides
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: of the ball, alignment, assignment, adjustment being that perfect, not
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: giving away snaps. As far as that's concerned, running the football,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: established the run game, show physicality. They may know you're
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: running heck with them. I mean, we're coming at you,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and let's have the confidence in the physicality to do that.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Show defense, let's get after the ball. In terms of takeaways,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you know, we need to get start making some big plays,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: tackles for loss, takeaways. On the other side of the ball,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: ball security, protecting the ball, so not giving the ball away.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I think fixing the self inflicted things, you know, the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: penalty situation. Like we talked about not giving up explosive
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: passes or explosive runs. On defense, you know, holding those down.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: If we can limit explosives, that'll be good. I think
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the other thing is, you know, our third down defense
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and our red zone defense. I mean, they've been working
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: hard on situational football, situational awareness, and you know, let's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: start to make some steps forward in terms of progress
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: in those areas. I think the handling the tempo they
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: started and did a good job of that today. That'll
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: be another focus for their defen And I think, uh,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: you know, let's let's see people take a big step
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: forward in terms of competition. You know, let's get these
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: starters as close to game ready as possible. Who are
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the starters, and and and let's nail that down. So
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of those things are objectives that
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you know, you'd like to see and uh step forward
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: in as we go into preseason Game two.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: I want to see everything get better. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: you game won a game two, you expect a big jump,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you know in all the areas that we're concerning. You know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: you want to see significant improvement there. And again, like
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Duff said, stay healthy. You know, I mean, if you
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: don't come out of the preseason healthy, then you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: it affects your chances to compete during the regular season.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: So but you got it's a balance. You know, you've
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: got to make sure that you balance it. You know,
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: the will to get ready, but then also the desires
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: to stay healthy. You know, those are things that you
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: just have to balance as a head coach. And and
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I'm sure Liam, Liam's got a handle on that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's uh. He seems to have a really good pulse
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: on this team, you know, and that's the that I like.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: He's got a he's got a little moxie. I think
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it is a good word for me. Let's see the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: team respond this week though, in pre season week number
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: two against the Saints. Mark Duffner, pleasure to see you.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in and sharing your insights and
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: fun to hang out at practice with you. But it's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: really fun to have you here.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Gil Welch joy for me. I'll tell you that right now.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I deeply appreciate being with you guys today. Thank you.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Let's do it again soon, I hope. Absolutely. Yeah, awesome.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That's Mark Dufner, former Jaguars linebacker coach. We're less than
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes away from the Liam Cohen Show. James glad Son,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Tony Boselli will be in studio with us when we
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: come back. The injury report and final thoughts, and this
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: One piece of many things that we're working on trying
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: to improve, whether it's fundamentals, communication, just simple execution. A
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: place here in their alignment assignment all of those details
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: are on port so we're trying to improve everything, not
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: just the drop here and there.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Great Ydinski, Jags offensive coordinator. After practice today, the scrimmage.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logaman, The Jaguars Happy Hour
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: from the Honday Studios inside the Miller of Electric Center.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: We're on ten ten xl AM ninety two point five FM,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube coming up in less than
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: ten minutes. The Liam Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: No coach until Week one of the regular season, but
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: yet again James Gladstone and Tony BASSELLI, I'm kind of
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: wondering should we not have two shows.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You have a coach a show and then you have
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: a Baselli Gladstone show as well.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those two together, it's pretty interesting. Fun.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's fun. The two of those guys in
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: the same room with us. I mean, I gotta say, Jp,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: the time spent with those two guys over the last
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks has been has been a lot of fun,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: really and it just the time just flies by. It
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: just like Holy col And.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: You'll learn a lot of football team too, want to
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: build get good info and I appreciate the transparency aspect
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: of it. And by the way, Duffner was Mark Duffner.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: His last year here was like you said, he worked
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: for three different Jaguars head coaches. That tells you what
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: kind of personality, what kind of person he is that
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: all these new coaches come in and want him around,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and he was great, and he made it through some
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: different head coaching changes in Cincinnati as well. Right, they
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: doll just got blown out.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: But yeah, after last year and when Cincinnati had Joe
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Burrow have really was a spectacular year for him, and
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: they didn't play very well on defense.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: They ended up blowing everybody out. But you know, dust
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: great guy, one of the all time great Jaguar coaches.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever met anybody that would have
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: anything bad to say about Mark Duffner. Everybody's big fans
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of duff And you know.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I hope we can have him on some of our
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: programming going on the forward because you know, I love
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: the way he thinks.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Because they're at the end there is like, hey, what
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: do you want to see duff He had a whole list.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: He put the head coaching hat back on, is what
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: he did. And he's getting Maryland's getting ready for Virginia
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: this week. Well he's been a head coach before. Yeah
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: what Holy Cross Maryland and moly Cross. Yeah, pretty cool stuff,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: cool stuff. Love having him here. Time for the injury
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: report presented by uf Health, the proud healthcare partner of
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mason Smith activated from the pup list today.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Didn't really get out there and the team stuff and
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the one on one side, but working his way back.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: That's good news. Eric Armstead I saw on the side
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: today on another field, actually getting some work in with
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: an assistant, starting to work on some things with his
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: sore back.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: What I saw out of out of both of those guys,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I would say is very encouraging and you know, may
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: take some time, but very very encouraging.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Anton Harrison is the concern though. We'll see. Maybe
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: they don't have to tell you anything, but Liam Cohen
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: speaks with the media tomorrow after practice and maybe we'll
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: get an update on Anton Harrison, who left practice today
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: was limp off the field, had to be helped back
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: to the building as well.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you hope, you hope nothing nothing serious, but because
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: you know, the one thing you like to do is
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: going into the season. Open Number one is that I
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: still believe you're trying to figure out the combination of
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman that you're gonna have. You're also trying to
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: figure out where everybody best fits, and if you don't
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: have everybody available, it's a little difficult to come to
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: that decision. So I hope he's okay, and I hope
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: that he's able to play.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: In New Orleans and we'll see. I mean, really the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: first time in a little while that he had been
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: flipped over the left tackle as well, and that was
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: really starting to go. And then Bang gets the injury
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and has to leave.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I can see him in the in the scrimmage today,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: get any snaps that left tackle.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I saw him get some snacks. I saw him in
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the scrimmage for a second, did you yeah, Okay, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: missed it. It wasn't long because he wasn't out there
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: long he got hurt. And then Fred Johnson came in
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: and played some left with the walker little and right,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and they're working on a lot.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Of different I think part of it is is that
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: you know, when you get injuries, you've got to have
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: some different combinations that you feel good with. For example,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: you know, let's say Walker Little gets hurt. You know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: what's what's the best player next to put at left tackle? Well,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: maybe that's Anton Harrison. What's the best starting combination opening day?
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe that's Anton Harrison, you know. So
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of those things are what you
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: would put in the category of to be determined. And
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: part of the evaluation process is continuing in the next
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: game and the following week of practices. And I don't
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: know if they'll play much against Miami, but the practice
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: against Miami, I think all of those things things will
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: be a factor. But by the time you finish up
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: with the practices with Miami, I think you're going to
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: have a pretty good idea.
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  Speaker 2: And then Tyson Campbell, Jaguars's cornerback. I don't think they've
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: officially said what it is, but he's been out for
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the last couple of days, so yeah, And I thought
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: he was having a really good camp.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he played great against Pittsburgh, but
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I thought he was having a really good camp. And
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: he's been super consistent. And what the wide receivers the
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Jaguars have has been great, A great opportunity for him
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: to get to get work at a pretty good group
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: of wide receivers, and I think he'll be fine. I'll
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: be working off to the side today doing some conditioning
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: stuff and look pretty good, so I think he's gonna
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: be all right.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: All Right, there you have it. The injury report is
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  Speaker 2: in coming up in just about three minutes or so.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Liam Cohen Show. We'll have James Gladstone and
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Tony Boselli coming up. Preseason Week two, Jaguars at the Saints.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: The Saints have questions at the quarterback position. You think
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of New and New Orleans this year, so
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: that'll be interesting to see. By the way, Tyler Shuck
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: one of those quarterbacks, the rookie second round pick out
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: of Louisville. How do you pronounce his last shuck? Shut
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: like you're shocking a noise show, but it's spelled show Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: like scott h ou g h like Doe with s
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: H show it Scottish, but it's shuck. Yes, Okay, appreciate
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: that because I would have screwed it up on He's
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: a rookie Sunday, for sure, he's a rookie. He is
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a week a little over a week older than Trevor Lawrence. Okay,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: they're both more than older in nineteen ninety nine and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is in year five in the NFL.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Well, you knew also it was in an old rookie
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: of the Jaguars. Jack Kai is the linebacker from Notre Dame,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: is going to turn twenty five and first couple of
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: weeks of September, so he's another older rookie.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, so I look forward to that. On who's going
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: to start today, I don't think they've figured it out.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: They had like a practice against the Chargers, I think today,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: so they were going through some of that stuff today.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: They got two rookies at the quarterback position. So that's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the one.
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  Speaker 4: That's one football team. Everybody's like, are they going to
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: be a team that could possibly trade for a Kirk Cousins.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: But if it was going to happen, you would have
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: think it would have happened by now. Maybe, but you
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: never know.
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  Speaker 2: See how they played this week, Maybe they make a
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: change after that, be a little late to get the
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: system digested, but you never know. You never know. We'll
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: see what the Jags having store. Liam Cohen again speaks
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: with the media tomorrow. I'm sure he'll be asked about
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: playing time for the starters and if they're going any
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: further and what came out of the scrimmage today. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: think that's all on the table for the head coach tomorrow.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Oggs after practice. I've always kind of had the prediction
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that they would play, but I don't know. You never know.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: I think next week is a great opportunity to get
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: some reps against Miami in a practice setting and not
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: playing in the game.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: But this week against New Orleans.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You know today you have scrimmage's Thursday, but you got
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Friday Saturday to rest. And the great thing is is
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: that you know, with these preseason games, it's not like
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: the guy everybody's playing a full game. I mean, you're
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: getting some reps, so you can control the reps where
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: you need to and get some guys out winning. Guess
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: who's early, Tony Biselli.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: He'll join us on the Liam Cohen Show on the
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network when we return. James Gladstone and Root
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: as well. Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.