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Magic Nick · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on your gabble gabble.
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  Speaker 3: If your sister's girlfriend says she'll work carpentry to pay
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  Speaker 3: off a loan she owes you, can you take that
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  Speaker 3: money for when she doesn't finish the job.
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  Speaker 2: Judge Mabelee's here to give us a history less hand.
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  Speaker 4: And if a buddy of yours says that you're a
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  Speaker 4: terrible magician, can you assume him for the money or
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  Speaker 4: is that money already disappeared?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Jerry tells us.
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  Speaker 2: Real baby cases, fake just this.
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  Speaker 4: Gabble of your gabble gabl stuff. I'm damn it's great
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  Speaker 4: to be here today. Back in the chambers. The chambers
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  Speaker 4: are freezing today. It's a freezing and our hands are tied.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, just like uh we said, give it to us,
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  Speaker 4: that's right, let us have control. Ah boy, I'm heading
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  Speaker 4: it over to Judge Jerry's.
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  Speaker 2: For good buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Judge Jerry, he is over and out.
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  Speaker 3: My god, come on too soon, man.
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  Speaker 1: Just not a couple of years and it was Jerry Springer.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of launched a whole era of just trash television,
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  Speaker 3: not the best, so over and out Jared, I went
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  Speaker 3: to Judge Jerry.
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  Speaker 1: You went to Judge Maybelin. Maybe it is that is real?
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  Speaker 2: Short, how about I get it out of the way,
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  Speaker 2: hit me.
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  Speaker 4: I want to introduce you to there's this two people here,
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  Speaker 4: one named Nick, one name Nicky, Nick and Nicky. It's
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  Speaker 4: Nicholas and Nikola Nicholas. And so we're gonna go with
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  Speaker 4: magic Nick and regular Nick, Magic magic Nick suing or
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  Speaker 4: magic magic Nick is suing regular Nick for one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, this is big money, that's right. Magic Nick is
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  Speaker 1: you guessed it. A magician. He's been doing magic since
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  Speaker 1: he was five years old.
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  Speaker 3: We get to see a cute video of him doing
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  Speaker 3: magic of the five wheeld give him the money, gets
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  Speaker 3: the gets a bunny out of a hat.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's a stuffed animal bunny. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a real one because he was five. He's
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  Speaker 4: not five anymore though.
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  Speaker 3: So just a normal pull real bunnies now. I don't know, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 2: And you get there.
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  Speaker 4: He says that he is suing regular Nick for one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars. He says that regular Nick went
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  Speaker 4: up and told a group of people that magic Nick
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  Speaker 4: is the worst magician in the world. And he claims
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  Speaker 4: that it's screwed amount of potential gigs, the two of
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  Speaker 4: the magicians in the world. It's tough, he says, pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: A defamation suit, Yes, it is, hundred and fifty dollars,
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  Speaker 4: claiming that that defamation screwed him out of a gig.
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  Speaker 4: He says that the two of them met as background
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  Speaker 4: actors on the set of a zombie TV show, Zombie
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  Speaker 4: Rob Thomas w Yeah, who can say, or walking walking dead,
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  Speaker 4: don't know, we don't know, we don't know. They were
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  Speaker 4: on step for four days and they didn't have their
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  Speaker 4: phones on them, so they were forced to talk to
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  Speaker 4: the other background actors, you know, as you do. And Nick,
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  Speaker 4: the Knicks, as I like to call them, became friends
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  Speaker 4: with each other, the.
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  Speaker 1: New York Nicks. That's good. That's really, it's really good.
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  Speaker 3: It's freezing though, it's so cold, so cold, the laughing
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  Speaker 3: out laughter makes it feel good.
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  Speaker 2: So uh.
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  Speaker 4: They became buddies though, and unfortunately though they don't get
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  Speaker 4: to hang out very often. Regular Nick travels a lot
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  Speaker 4: for work, but when they can't hang out, they they
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  Speaker 4: do hang out. They like having fun with each other.
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  Speaker 4: So magic Nick goes, uh goes to a party and
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  Speaker 4: regular Nick is there.
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  Speaker 1: They're excited to see each other. They're catching up. Regular
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  Speaker 1: Nick is.
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  Speaker 4: Pound in the drinks, Pound of the Drinks, and Magic
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  Speaker 4: Nick goes over to a group of people and he
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  Speaker 4: starts to do a card trick. Regular Nick then speaks
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  Speaker 4: up and says that he never knows when it's the
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  Speaker 4: right time to do magic. He always just does it,
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  Speaker 4: whether or not the opportunity calls for it. Magic Nick
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  Speaker 4: always does magic, and magic Nick goes just Jerry, you
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  Speaker 4: want to see some magic.
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  Speaker 1: He does a trick.
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  Speaker 2: Of course he does.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those was this your cards?
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  Speaker 4: And then it's like, no, that wasn't my card, and
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  Speaker 4: he's like, well, that's because it's it's a whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: That was most of the case. That was most of
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  Speaker 4: the case, yes, and so I'm not going to explain
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  Speaker 4: it to you. Magic Nick says that at the party,
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  Speaker 4: he's doing the trick to this group of people and
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  Speaker 4: they seem very interested in what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: They're very into the magic.
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  Speaker 4: So after he does his trick, he does what he
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  Speaker 4: normally does and he hands out business cards and lets
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  Speaker 4: him know that he is available for hire for different
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  Speaker 4: He does a lot of events where he goes and
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  Speaker 4: he just kind of walks around does magic for people
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  Speaker 4: at parties and whatnot. Crat He usually charges one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty dollars for a two hour It's a steal, man,
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  Speaker 4: it is maybe we should get in for Bramblefest, ummm
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  Speaker 4: for the casino night.
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  Speaker 3: So uh.
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  Speaker 4: As he's handing out the business cars, regular Nick stumbles over,
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  Speaker 4: clearly drunk and says he's the worst magician in the world.
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  Speaker 4: Don't hire him, man, And all these people then just
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  Speaker 4: walk away awkwardly. They don't want to be around this situation.
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  Speaker 4: They could pick up on the tension. Magic Nick is like,
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  Speaker 4: if I wanted to assume him for thousands of dollars,
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  Speaker 4: I could because every event that I do I end
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  Speaker 4: up getting more business. So who knows how much business
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  Speaker 4: is looks it's thing, but I am not doing that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just suing for one event. These people were very
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  Speaker 4: interested in my magic. One of them was for sure
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  Speaker 4: gonna hire me. Regular next says I owe him nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I owe him nothing. There is no proof, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: that anyone was atally going to hire him, because here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing. In my experience, people will say anything to
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  Speaker 4: get out of bad magic experiences. Okay, so he's over there,
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  Speaker 4: he's doing matress, he's handing out cards, and sure maybe
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  Speaker 4: one of them was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh this is cool, maybe I'll call you. They don't.
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  Speaker 1: They just wanted to get out of the contention. That's
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  Speaker 1: all they wanted to do. He says.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, I was excited to see my friend that night,
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  Speaker 4: hadn't seen him in a while. But every time we
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  Speaker 4: hang out he tries to turn it into a business venture.
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  Speaker 4: He starts doing magic tricks, he starts handing out business cards,
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  Speaker 4: and I was frustrated in the moment. I went over
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  Speaker 4: there and I joked about him being a bad magician.
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  Speaker 3: But he doesn't meant to be. In having a few,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't say anything. Okay, he doesn't say anything.
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  Speaker 4: He just basically wants him to know that he was
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  Speaker 4: excited to spend time with his friend and his friend
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  Speaker 4: was not hanging out with him. Instead, he was trying
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  Speaker 4: to get business magic. Nick says, at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, he slandered me. He said I was a
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  Speaker 4: bad magician. I'm not a bad magician, and he screwed
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  Speaker 4: me out of gigs.
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  Speaker 3: Jerry's right rule, I think you got to give Nick
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  Speaker 3: the money. I think that regular old Nick, regular Nick
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  Speaker 3: admits what he did, and that is slander and he's
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  Speaker 3: in court for one hundred and fifty bucks. Obviously, you're
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  Speaker 3: entitled your opinion, but it seemed it seemed like this
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  Speaker 3: is not the time nor the place, and you were drunk.
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  Speaker 3: Gotta give them money.
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  Speaker 4: Judge, Jerry says, As entertainers, we want to perform or
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  Speaker 4: perform for anybody for anything, right, and people are entitled
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  Speaker 4: to their opinions about those performances.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that there were.
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  Speaker 4: Some people that didn't like my old show and they
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  Speaker 4: would say things about my old show.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe people no problem with Jerry Springer's show.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they are entitled
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  Speaker 3: to those opinions, and since you didn't actually have any
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  Speaker 3: contracts for gigs, at the end of the day, this
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  Speaker 3: is just an opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, no money.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen too many real cases of defamation where Athos
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  Speaker 3: explains it that I'm like, that's defamation and that you should.
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  Speaker 2: Get your money.
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  Speaker 3: He says again, this is not a judge. Jerry's not
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  Speaker 3: a judge. He's not a judge.
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  Speaker 4: But he does say under the law that that this
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be defamation.
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  Speaker 1: But for what it's worth, he does throw it and
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  Speaker 1: he definitely knows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I could have.
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  Speaker 1: I could see it going both ways. It's you listen.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, he went up to
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  Speaker 4: a group of people and he's and he said that
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  Speaker 4: his friend is a bad magician.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would have given him the money.
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  Speaker 2: But I would have given him the money.
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  Speaker 4: Jerry says, sir, you're you're in the entertainment game. A
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  Speaker 4: buckle up, buddy, is a world of disappointment, over and over.
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  Speaker 2: Over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: What do you got?
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  Speaker 3: I'm over a Judge Mabelene. Justice for All with Judge Mabelen.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe charote, maybe Charlotte Montgomery is suing Hailey Bennett for
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  Speaker 3: twenty four hundred dollars now thought she might. It is
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  Speaker 3: pertinent to this case, and you will see why later
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  Speaker 3: that I tell you the race of all of these women.
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  Speaker 3: It is pertinent, Okay, Judge Mabelene African American woman, Charlotte Montgomery,
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  Speaker 3: African American woman, Hailey Bennett, Caucasian woman.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you need to know that right now.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to want to know that the woman being
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  Speaker 1: sued is white.
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  Speaker 2: The woman being sued is white.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna need to know that because if you don't,
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  Speaker 3: it could get really awkward later.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just helping you out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of these.
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  Speaker 3: Things where it does not benefit to just watch the gabble,
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  Speaker 3: even though I say in most cases it does just
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  Speaker 3: to listen to the gal, but watching the case mayhelp.
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  Speaker 3: So Charlotte says, Haley and I have known each other
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  Speaker 3: for years because she's been dating my sister for years.
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  Speaker 3: She just graduated from construction school. I didn't know that
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  Speaker 3: was a term. I know that contractors get licensed, but
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know you went to construction school.
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  Speaker 1: Something new for me. Are they Are they friends or
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  Speaker 1: she just knows her because she's dead.
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  Speaker 3: She's known her for years because she's dated her sister
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  Speaker 3: and she's very close with her sister. She's like, I
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  Speaker 3: just bought a house for a really good deal. I'm
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  Speaker 3: basically remodeling the whole house. I hired a contractor to
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Haley asked me for a loan, and I wasn't going
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  Speaker 3: to give her the money because Hailey's been with my
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  Speaker 3: sister a while and I know how bad she is
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  Speaker 3: with money. But I thought this guy needs help. The
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  Speaker 3: contractor said he needed help. I thought, hey, it would
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  Speaker 3: be a good fit, and so basically I hired her
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  Speaker 3: to be an assistant contractor for thirteen dollars an hour.
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  Speaker 3: Maybeling's like, so you were paying her thirteen dollars an hour.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, no, I gave her a loan and then
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  Speaker 3: she was working to pay it off at thirteen dollars
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  Speaker 3: an hour, eight hours a day, and then I was
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  Speaker 3: taken aback when she stopped working two weeks into the
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  Speaker 3: job and she didn't come back. And Mabeling was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well how much did she borrow? And Charlotte's like, she
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  Speaker 3: borrowed twenty five hundred for her car initially. I loaned
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  Speaker 3: her two hundred dollars more the next week, and then
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  Speaker 3: she needed one thousand more for bills, and Maybeling's like,
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  Speaker 3: why do you keep lending her money when you know
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  Speaker 3: that she's not good with money. She didn't pay it back.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, well, she wanted the job. She was just finished.
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  Speaker 3: She's a construction school. Seemed like a no brainer. She
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  Speaker 3: would do this work on my house, work off the loan.
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  Speaker 3: We're good to go. And I helped my sister out
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  Speaker 3: all the time, and so she probably felt comfortable asking
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  Speaker 3: me because she's been dating my shister for a long
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  Speaker 3: time time.
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  Speaker 2: And so I learned.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good gig though, because you know, you're fresh out
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  Speaker 4: of constructor yeah school, and so you get a gig, right,
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  Speaker 4: and with that gig, you know you're able to get
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  Speaker 4: rid of all the debt you have.
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  Speaker 1: This is nice, This is nice.
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  Speaker 3: So basically she had under thirty seven hundred dollars over
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  Speaker 3: the course of a couple of months. And then she said,
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  Speaker 3: I did draw up a contract and Mabeling goes finally,
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  Speaker 3: and she says, I dropped one for a loan agreement
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  Speaker 3: and one for a contract of employment. She goes, you
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  Speaker 3: know those are two different things, and Charlotte' said yes, sir, yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 2: So she she's.
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  Speaker 4: Basically doing well though, because she's she's building new place and.
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  Speaker 1: She's handing out money.
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  Speaker 3: Well where it gets a little wonky, Charlotte goes, well,
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  Speaker 3: she'stop working because she said she felt uncomfortable in the situation.
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  Speaker 2: And I own my business.
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  Speaker 3: I know how hard it is to work, and but
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  Speaker 3: I was there regularly supervising. I never saw anything that
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  Speaker 3: would make me think it was not a good working environment.
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  Speaker 3: And Mabeling goes, so, I want to be clear. She
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  Speaker 3: went to work and was working purely to pay off
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  Speaker 3: a debt. You didn't give her the money for working.
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  Speaker 3: She had already gotten the money. She goes, yeah, she goes,
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  Speaker 3: that's involuntary servitude.
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  Speaker 2: That's illegal.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Charlotte goes, well, I was paying her thirteen dollars
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  Speaker 3: an hour. And she goes, you know what, involuntary slavery.
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  Speaker 3: You know you've heard of that term, right, you can't
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  Speaker 3: do that. This is black woman to black woman, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: about the yeah, the white woman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is.
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  Speaker 3: A whole history of After slavery is made illegal, they
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  Speaker 3: changed it to an involuntary service as well, because tenant
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  Speaker 3: farming and sharecropping was such a big thing where it's
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  Speaker 3: like you could you'll never get out of debt, you
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  Speaker 3: just keep working and never get any money, right, And
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: you're like, that's illegal, you can't do that, right, So
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  Speaker 3: at this point Haley. White woman pops in and goes,
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  Speaker 3: you're on her ouse, stick up for Charlotte here. I
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  Speaker 3: did want to do this job, just finished construction school.
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  Speaker 3: This was a chance to learn, there was a chance
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  Speaker 3: to get on the job experience, and there was a
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  Speaker 3: chance to increase my experience and have my resume. So
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  Speaker 3: it was an agreement that I agreed to. Basically, the
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  Speaker 3: white woman comes in, It's like, can we make me
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  Speaker 3: less uncomfortable? Please, whatever you need to do to do
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  Speaker 3: it to please sto't Field for Mabel went hard at
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  Speaker 3: this woman and accused her of being a slave mastered.
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  Speaker 1: It was wild.
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  Speaker 2: It was a wild because this.
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  Speaker 4: Like I imagine this type of deal happens on a regular
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  Speaker 4: basis with people that you know owe their friends.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of money.
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  Speaker 3: I think the way it was like we see this
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  Speaker 3: in this in gab all the time. And Hayley's like
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  Speaker 3: it was more of an advance and I asked for
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  Speaker 3: an advance on my paycheck.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't working all a debt. Like she really comes
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  Speaker 3: to arrest and uh and Mabeling's like, sounds like you
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  Speaker 3: were just using her as a bank. And she goes she.
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  Speaker 2: Said, well, what were What did you do?
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  Speaker 3: She's like, well, I do carpenter is my main thing,
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  Speaker 3: and I was working on the shelves in her house,
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  Speaker 3: doing the shelving units. And she said, but I also
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  Speaker 3: helped the tracted with paperwork, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: my dream job. And it quickly became a nightmare. From
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  Speaker 3: day one, I was sexually harassed by the contractor and.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the crew.
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  Speaker 1: I told him, was she the only woman on Yes,
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  Speaker 1: she's because.
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  Speaker 2: The only woman on the side.
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  Speaker 3: I told him I wasn't interested in men, that I
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  Speaker 3: was a lesbian, and they had all kinds of responses,
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  Speaker 3: cat calling, saying inappropriate things, and I just couldn't handle anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't think it was a good work environment
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  Speaker 3: and I left. Now a couple of things you need
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  Speaker 3: to know, Well, Mabelne says, when did you did this
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  Speaker 3: happen from the beginning? She says, yes, And then she said,
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  Speaker 3: when did you tell Charlotte? She said, I thought I
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  Speaker 3: could handle it, but after a week I knew I
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  Speaker 3: needed to tell Charlotte, and Charlotte disregarded this. So a
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  Speaker 3: couple interesting things going to happen here the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the way. Number one, Mabeling, to a lesser extent, Charlotte
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  Speaker 3: is going to disregard all of this woman's claims of
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  Speaker 3: sexual harassment, which is just crazy. It's just crazy that
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  Speaker 3: they don't believe her at all. Mabelene's gonna Mabelinge's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be like, well, it's gonna get But Charlotte's like, this
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  Speaker 3: didn't happen. She's gonna take She's basically gonna take the
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  Speaker 3: side of the construction men construction workers over some a
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  Speaker 3: female she's known for years and years. Okay, She's like,
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  Speaker 3: your honor, that isn't true. She told me about this.
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  Speaker 3: I spoke with them. The contractor looked me dead in
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  Speaker 3: the eye. He said nothing happened. He said that Haley
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  Speaker 3: was lazy, she didn't do anything. She was always talking back,
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  Speaker 3: she was there to learn, she wasn't working. And then
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  Speaker 3: he drew up paperwork saying that there was no there
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: was no instance of sexual harassment. Had everyone his cruise
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: signed it and they got it notarized, right, okay. Haley
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: then says, well, in the second week after Charlotte disregarded me,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I actually have a recording of an instance that where
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I complained and she did nothing now.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, she doesn't have a recording of the actual Yeah,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: she had a recording of the harassment.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, and I need you to know something. Sexual arrassment's
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: not funny. Funny believe women trying to reenact sexual harassment
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: on a construction site in a courtroom kind of funny. Okay,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: And it's kind of funny because you can see it's
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: clearly fake. This tape is clearly fake. I don't know
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: if the actors are fake. This tape is fake, okay,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: And there the crowd knows it's serious, but also is
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: trying not to laugh, like it's like back there, like
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: And the reason the clip is so unbelievably ridiculous is
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: is the noises that they use for construction.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: It's just like this one thing going thingdingdingding thing thing think.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And then you hear a word and then the voice
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: is like the voice of the dude doing the sexual
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: harassment is way louder than all the noise on the site.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: So you just hear like thing thing thing, thing, were
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: thing thing thing in the background and he's like, hey girl,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: why don't you get up? Like he's like like that
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: that is what the tape is. It's clearly an actor,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: it's clearly sounds that have been pumped in. It's the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: fakest thing in the world and I hate that, but
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: it is funny. It is funny in the in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: quarter of ball.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: It's a pope like, So, how does to judge Mabelane
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: handle it?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Though she is like, this doesn't sound real, mane.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: This is where I have a problem. Is is if
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: we're all supposed to believe that it's real, which I
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: think we are, even though the whole audience is trying
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: to out laugh. If we're supposed to believe this is
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: real because it's a real case, and sexual harassment is real,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: and we should believe women that there would be no
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: reason for them to lie about this. Mabelen's response is
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: wholly unacceptable. Okay, she hears the tape and she goes, so,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: how are you going to pay her back? That's what
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: she says. Oh, wow, what's your plan? How are you
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: going to pay her back? Tell me you got a plan?
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: What's your plan? She doesn't say I'm sorry, she doesn't
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: say you should sue these guys. She just goes that
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: tape's great, what's your plan? And Haley goes, well, I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: more than happy to get another job and pay her back.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I told her I'd do some other work for her
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: without the contractor. She refused that immediately, so then we
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: find out she worked basically thirteen hundred dollars worth. She
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: still owes twenty four hundred dollars. Hayley's like, I'm currently
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: looking for another job. The weather's been really bad. Construction
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: jobs are tough to find right now, but as soon
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: as I find one, I'll start paying her. But I
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: also have to pay my own bills too, so it
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: would not be at the same rate it would be
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: if I was just doing the work and giving her
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: all of the money. Mabeling gives a whole speech about
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: how people that borrow money are never out for the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: person that lend them the money, like she basically comes
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: down the side of big big loaner.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I guess in all of that, but now she's ready
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to rule.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like she's gonna give her the money.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: So uh, there's that, and it sounds like, you know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: it seems like she wants to pay back the money
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: but would just need some time. If it was me,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I would structure the payments in the courtroom to help
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: make sure that the payment actually happens. I doubt that's
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. I think she's just gonna say you have.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: To pay, Yeah, she says, I hope she looks at
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Charlotte says, I hope you've learned your lesson about lending
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: her and your sister money. Oh, stop doing it. Stop
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: lending your sister money like it is as cold heart.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I was shocked by this.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling made Elina is maybe uh coming
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: to some money herself and had some people take advantage
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: of her.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe that's some projecting. The complete disregard
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: of the sexual harassment was crazy to me. It's a wildcase.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: It's a wild gavel, no doubt about it. She gets
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: some money, she gets some money. All twenty four hundred.
• 19:21
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• 19:23
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