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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Vids on a Tuesday. It's great
- 0:02Speaker 1: to have you with us as always. It's Cinco, Cinco
- 0:05Speaker 1: de Mayo. And remember everybody, Trump Tower has the best
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Great to be with you as always. We've got a
- 0:14Speaker 1: big show ahead for you. We got to get into
- 0:17Speaker 1: a psycho judge just told the guy who tried to
- 0:21Speaker 1: kill the president of the United States, sorry for your
- 0:24Speaker 1: jail conditions where we're trying to keep you alive.
- 0:27Speaker 2: What?
- 0:28Speaker 1: We'll get into the idiocy.
- 0:30Speaker 3: There.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Also, I've got some election updates for you, including some
- 0:33Speaker 1: very good news about the efforts to stop the left's
- 0:36Speaker 1: election rigging. We just keep getting, I love sharing with
- 0:40Speaker 1: you good news on that subject. That's coming up on
- 0:43Speaker 1: the program. And we're going to be joined by the
- 0:45Speaker 1: incredible Luke Rosiak. What an amazing reporter from the Daily Wire.
- 0:48Speaker 1: This guy has a very important story on the ongoing
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- 1:00Speaker 1: it's caught the attention of the vice president of the
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- 1:05Speaker 1: this fraud. We're going to tackle that. That's all coming
- 1:08Speaker 1: up on the program. Good morning.
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- 2:52Speaker 1: be super exciting. In fact, I have to get the tequila.
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- 3:13Speaker 5: All right.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Let's get into this crazy judge who's been drinking on
- 3:18Speaker 1: the job, apparently. Yesterday, you get this guy, Cole Allen,
- 3:23Speaker 1: the suspect in the White House Correspondents Dinner shooting. Cole
- 3:27Speaker 1: Allen appears for another court appearance. And while he's there
- 3:31Speaker 1: yesterday in this D.C. court, the judge, the magistrate judge
- 3:36Speaker 1: called Zia Farraquai, Zia Farraquai, it's a good Irish name, huh?
- 3:44Speaker 1: He is, quote, fascinated and disturbed by Cole Allen's treatment
- 3:49Speaker 1: in the D.C.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Jail.
- 3:52Speaker 1: I'm sorry, come again? What's the problem with his treatment
- 3:54Speaker 1: in the jail? I have to get worked up about
- 3:57Speaker 1: this guy's treatment in the D.C. jail now? Tell me why, Mr.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Judge Farraquai. What are you talking about? Here we go.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Fox News with the report. Judge apologizes in court to
- 4:08Speaker 1: White House Correspondents Association dinner shooting suspect Cole Allen. Magistrate
- 4:14Speaker 1: Judge Zia Farraquai said that he was, quote, fascinated and
- 4:18Speaker 1: disturbed by Allen's treatment in jail. Allen was placed on
- 4:21Speaker 1: suicide watch when he was first imprisoned. Prosecutors argued that
- 4:25Speaker 1: since Allen told investigators he didn't expect to survive the
- 4:28Speaker 1: alleged attack, he could be a danger to himself. Well,
- 4:31Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, actually. That makes a
- 4:34Speaker 1: lot of sense. Before we get to this loopy judge's
- 4:38Speaker 1: assessment here, this left-wing lunatic, The United States Department of
- 4:43Speaker 1: Justice is right to assess that Cole Allen was ready
- 4:48Speaker 1: to kill himself by cop. Chat, you familiar with this expression,
- 4:52Speaker 1: death by cop, suicide by cop? Have you heard this before? Yeah,
- 4:55Speaker 1: of course. Suicide by cop. The guy thought he was
- 4:58Speaker 1: going to run in and get gunned down. Now, the
- 5:01Speaker 1: Secret Service, remember, they fired five shots at the guy.
- 5:03Speaker 1: They missed all of them. So the guy trips. And
- 5:06Speaker 1: they tackle him. They get him into custody with no
- 5:10Speaker 1: bullet wounds. And now he can stand trial, which I
- 5:12Speaker 1: think is a good thing, because I'd like to see
- 5:14Speaker 1: this guy stand trial. I'd like to see him testify.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I'd like to see this all televised. I'd like to
- 5:19Speaker 1: see this case brought before the American public to show
- 5:23Speaker 1: the whole country what the left has created. This is
- 5:26Speaker 1: another weak and vicious left-wing lunatic inspired by people like
- 5:30Speaker 1: Ted Rue and Hakeem Jeffries to take up arms against
- 5:33Speaker 1: the president of the United States. I want that fully
- 5:35Speaker 1: on display for the American people. It's a good thing
- 5:39Speaker 1: this guy's in custody. And they've got him on suicide
- 5:42Speaker 1: watch because it's pretty obvious he thought he was going
- 5:45Speaker 1: to get killed by virtue of his own actions, which
- 5:48Speaker 1: we would call a suicide. You go running in there
- 5:50Speaker 1: with guns expecting to be gunned down to death. That's
- 5:53Speaker 1: suicide by cop. It's not a new concept. A lot
- 5:57Speaker 1: of deranged people have attempted this, have undertaken this, and
- 6:03Speaker 1: Colin Allen was just the latest. So when the DOJ goes, yeah,
- 6:07Speaker 1: this guy seems suicidal, they're right. They're right about this.
- 6:11Speaker 1: He thought it was all done about a week ago. Instead,
- 6:15Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to spend the rest of
- 6:16Speaker 1: his life behind bars. Keep him alive so he can
- 6:20Speaker 1: stand trial. What happens after that, I don't really care
- 6:22Speaker 1: that much about, but keep him alive so he can
- 6:25Speaker 1: stand trial. And so the judge here is, for some reason,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know, upset that this guy is being held on
- 6:33Speaker 1: suicide watch. I was like, on what basis? You seem
- 6:36Speaker 1: totally rational to me, says the judge. An incredulous Farraquai
- 6:42Speaker 1: was not convinced by the argument that he is suicidal.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Drawing comparisons between Allen and defendants arrested for riding at
- 6:50Speaker 1: the Capitol on January 6th of 2021. Listen to this, quote,
- 6:55Speaker 1: to me, It's extremely disturbing that he was put in
- 7:00Speaker 1: five-point restraints. A person with no criminal history. It's troubling,
- 7:06Speaker 1: says the nutjob judge. I've never heard of one January
- 7:10Speaker 1: 6th defendant who was put in a five-point restraint or
- 7:12Speaker 1: in a safe cell. If the only way to keep
- 7:15Speaker 1: him safe is the most punitive thing, that's a problem,
- 7:18Speaker 1: says the judge. At a minimum, I should be apologizing
- 7:22Speaker 1: to him. We are obligated to make sure he's taken
- 7:24Speaker 1: care of. Mr. Allen... I'm sorry that things have not
- 7:28Speaker 1: been the way they are supposed to. This son of
- 7:32Speaker 1: a bitch. Here you have this judge apologizing to the
- 7:36Speaker 1: man who tried to assassinate every one of the highest
- 7:39Speaker 1: level officials in our government. He wrote in his manifesto
- 7:43Speaker 1: that he wanted to kill every single ranking official he
- 7:47Speaker 1: could to include the President of the United States, which
- 7:49Speaker 1: is why he now stands credibly charged with attempting to
- 7:52Speaker 1: assassinate the President of the United States, which would engage in,
- 7:55Speaker 1: which would invoke a life sentence upon guilt. And this
- 8:01Speaker 1: judge is apologizing to him for his treatment. I don't know, Chad,
- 8:07Speaker 1: don't you kind of feel like the treatment here has
- 8:09Speaker 1: been pretty generous? The guy's alive, isn't he? They didn't
- 8:13Speaker 1: kill him when he rushed into the room, shooting his
- 8:17Speaker 1: shotgun directly into the chest of Secret Service agents. In fact,
- 8:22Speaker 1: Through a combination of fortune and goodwill, I'd say the
- 8:24Speaker 1: Trump administration has been pretty generous to this guy. He's
- 8:27Speaker 1: still alive. He's got no bullet holes in him. He's
- 8:31Speaker 1: in custody. They're keeping him in a padded room. They're
- 8:34Speaker 1: keeping him safe for his own protection. They're keeping him alive.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what did I miss? What did I miss?
- 8:42Speaker 1: It seems like the Trump people are being overly generous
- 8:45Speaker 1: with this guy and this judge is apologizing. Now, of course,
- 8:47Speaker 1: the judge is telling on himself. That's what's happening. The
- 8:49Speaker 1: reason he's apologizing is because he's a left wing lunatic, too.
- 8:54Speaker 1: But he's wearing judicial robes and he's sorry that his
- 8:58Speaker 1: buddy has to go through this, which is awful. It's
- 9:00Speaker 1: just awful. How can you even begin to do this?
- 9:03Speaker 1: And yet that's what that judge is doing. And Kyle
- 9:07Speaker 1: Chaney at Politico, he's a reporter over there. He dug
- 9:11Speaker 1: in on this, too. He had a big thread on
- 9:12Speaker 1: this yesterday that I first saw on the subject, talking
- 9:16Speaker 1: about how Judge Farraquai is extremely concerned about Carl Allen.
- 9:20Speaker 1: And the general counsel for the D.C. jail said that
- 9:23Speaker 1: Allen's placement is based on an ongoing psychiatric evaluation. In
- 9:26Speaker 1: other words, the D.C. jail has been assessing him like,
- 9:29Speaker 1: we should probably keep this guy in protective custody. We
- 9:31Speaker 1: should keep him in this situation where he's kept alive.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Suicide watch. But this thing about, oh, he's just like
- 9:39Speaker 1: a January 6th defendant, and yet he's not being treated
- 9:42Speaker 1: the same way. Like, what? What are you talking about?
- 9:47Speaker 1: Farraquai was hammering the January 6th comparison. He says he spent, quote,
- 9:51Speaker 1: four years, quote, watching what I would say seems to
- 9:54Speaker 1: be analogous conduct. Analogous conduct. People allegedly trying to harm
- 10:02Speaker 1: elected officials based on their political beliefs. The way that
- 10:05Speaker 1: things are playing out for Allen is vastly different. Yeah,
- 10:09Speaker 1: because the January 6th people didn't take up arms against
- 10:14Speaker 1: the government. The January 6th people didn't bring guns to
- 10:17Speaker 1: the so-called insurrection. The January 6th people weren't firing shotguns
- 10:22Speaker 1: into the chests of police officers. This is not analogous
- 10:27Speaker 1: in any way. You psychopath. Why are you wearing judicial robes?
- 10:32Speaker 1: Why are you sitting on a court at all? You're
- 10:36Speaker 1: a psycho. You're a psycho. Yeah, Lord Farquaad. Lord Farquaad
- 10:42Speaker 1: has no idea what he's talking about. Analogous. This is
- 10:46Speaker 1: how demented the left has become. The fact that it's
- 10:50Speaker 1: become an article of faith, including from a judge who
- 10:53Speaker 1: should know better, that January 6th was this, you know, gun-toting, violent,
- 10:59Speaker 1: murderous insurrection, that's just Lord Farquaad-level nonsense coming out of
- 11:04Speaker 1: Lord Farquaad's stupid face. As yesterday, he's apologizing to Cole
- 11:08Speaker 1: Allen that he's being kept alive. What a bunch of psychopaths.
- 11:15Speaker 1: You want to talk about the rot in our system?
- 11:17Speaker 1: It's on display yesterday. As for the January 6th defendants,
- 11:22Speaker 1: the guys who were in the very same D.C. jail
- 11:25Speaker 1: that Carl Allen is being held in, the very same D.C. jail,
- 11:30Speaker 1: those January 6th defendants were treated like utter crap, and
- 11:33Speaker 1: they were kept there forever. They were kept there for
- 11:36Speaker 1: a very long time. In fact, they finally started getting
- 11:42Speaker 1: some attention in 2022, October of 2022, long after the
- 11:47Speaker 1: events of January 6th, 2021. There was a headline in
- 11:50Speaker 1: NPR about their treatment. And it said, January 6th detainees
- 11:53Speaker 1: say a DC jail is so awful, they would like
- 11:56Speaker 1: a transfer to Guantanamo. That's how they were treated. This guy,
- 12:00Speaker 1: Cole Allen, they're like fluffing his pillows over there. Lord
- 12:03Speaker 1: Farquaad wants to make sure that he's got the air
- 12:05Speaker 1: conditioner set at the perfect temperature. Meanwhile, January 6th detainees
- 12:08Speaker 1: could barely get any attention for what happened to them.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Dozens of individuals in Washington's DC jail on charges related
- 12:16Speaker 1: to the January 6th, 2021, this is NPR, insurrection is
- 12:20Speaker 1: the way they wrote it, at the U.S. Capitol, have
- 12:22Speaker 1: submitted a handwritten letter to a federal court demanding to
- 12:25Speaker 1: be moved to Guantanamo Bay. The detainees say they're living
- 12:30Speaker 1: in inhumane conditions. The seven-page letter, which was reviewed by NPR,
- 12:34Speaker 1: was signed by 34 defendants and was submitted as a
- 12:37Speaker 1: part of a response to the government for its denial
- 12:40Speaker 1: of alleged Capitol rioter Ryan Nichols' pretrial release. Nichols is
- 12:44Speaker 1: facing multiple charges. The individuals who signed off on the
- 12:47Speaker 1: letter included David Dempsey, who they say allegedly used a
- 12:50Speaker 1: chemical spray, as well as a crutch and a metal
- 12:53Speaker 1: pole against police officers, and Ronald Sandlin, who was accused
- 12:57Speaker 1: of assaulting police. The detainees listed several issues. The conditions
- 13:01Speaker 1: allegedly included no religious services or visitations, black mold and
- 13:06Speaker 1: worms on the jail's walls and in the food, abuse
- 13:10Speaker 1: by guards, and vaccine requirements for visits and other services.
- 13:14Speaker 1: They also say their clothing that's been sent to the
- 13:16Speaker 1: laundry is returned covered in brown stains, pubic hair, and
- 13:21Speaker 1: or reeking of ripe urine. And say they've lost eyesight
- 13:26Speaker 1: and hair because of malnourishment. In fact, some of the
- 13:31Speaker 1: January 6th defendants actually did commit suicide because of their
- 13:36Speaker 1: horrific treatment at the hands of a tyrannical government. And
- 13:40Speaker 1: yet now we're trying to get this guy off of
- 13:42Speaker 1: suicide watch for what? Keep him alive for trial. Keep
- 13:47Speaker 1: him alive for trial. In fact, you'll remember the January
- 13:54Speaker 1: 6th detainees that were inside of that D.C. jail One
- 14:00Speaker 1: of the now most famous things that they did while
- 14:03Speaker 1: they were in that jail each night was they would
- 14:05Speaker 1: sing the national anthem before bed. They would sing the
- 14:09Speaker 1: national anthem. And at one point, the sound of them
- 14:12Speaker 1: singing the national anthem was captured over the phone in
- 14:15Speaker 1: the jail, recorded, and then turned into what we now
- 14:18Speaker 1: know as the January 6th choir. In fact, the president
- 14:22Speaker 1: of the United States joined it by saying the Pledge
- 14:26Speaker 1: of Allegiance over it. And then in the 2024 campaign,
- 14:30Speaker 1: played it from rally stages before he would go on
- 14:33Speaker 1: to give pardons to all of the January 6th defendants
- 14:37Speaker 1: upon arriving in office. In fact, here is, for your
- 14:41Speaker 1: listening pleasure, the president of the United States in the
- 14:45Speaker 1: January 6th choir played in its totality. This was back
- 14:49Speaker 1: during the March 2024 campaign rally for the president. Now, again,
- 14:53Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Cut one, watch.
- 15:20Speaker 3: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
- 15:24Speaker 3: of America, And to the Republic for which it stands.
- 15:59Speaker 4: One nation under God. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet.
- 16:35Speaker 3: Wave Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
- 16:42Speaker 4: O'er the land of the free and the home.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Amazing. Amazing to this very day. Emotional. Emotional. And those
- 17:10Speaker 1: guys were treated like garbage. And yet they endured. And
- 17:14Speaker 1: yet they sang the national anthem every night. Treated like
- 17:17Speaker 1: utter garbage. And remember, Regardless of what you think of
- 17:25Speaker 1: people who broke windows, went into the building on January
- 17:28Speaker 1: 6th of 2021, the underlying spirit of all of that
- 17:33Speaker 1: was people who desperately wanted to see their country held together,
- 17:36Speaker 1: their constitutional republic upheld, the constitution adhered to, elections to
- 17:40Speaker 1: be credible. What Cole Allen was attempting to do this
- 17:45Speaker 1: past week when he tried to murder the president of
- 17:47Speaker 1: the United States was tear down our constitutional republic, put
- 17:52Speaker 1: us into utter chaos. And this is what Judge Farquad
- 17:56Speaker 1: is standing up for. He's standing up for the agent
- 18:00Speaker 1: of chaos, trying to bring him comfort for his chaotic behavior.
- 18:05Speaker 1: The Trump Justice Department is handling this the correct way,
- 18:09Speaker 1: is handling this the correct way. And it's just sad
- 18:12Speaker 1: to see that we still have so much rot inside
- 18:15Speaker 1: of our establishments that it needs to be cleaned up still. Now,
- 18:19Speaker 1: Jeanine Pirro is the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C. She's great.
- 18:22Speaker 1: We know her as Judge Jeanine, now U.S. Attorney Jeanine. hero.
- 18:26Speaker 1: And she said the following about Judge Farquaad's behavior yesterday.
- 18:30Speaker 1: She said, welcome to Washington, D.C., where U.S. Magistrate Judge
- 18:34Speaker 1: Lord Farquaad, just kidding, she said Farquaad, U.S. Magistrate Judge Farquaad,
- 18:39Speaker 1: believes a defendant armed to the teeth and attempting to
- 18:41Speaker 1: assassinate the president is entitled to preferential treatment in his
- 18:45Speaker 1: confinement compared to every other defendant. That's what we're dealing with.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Even in the nation's capitol, And if you're watching Rumble.com
- 18:57Speaker 1: slash Vince, there's the judge. There's Lord Farquaad right there.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And there's the defendant. There's the suspect. There is Cole Allen,
- 19:08Speaker 1: the man who dressed up like some sort of, I
- 19:11Speaker 1: don't know what he dressed up as, just a weirdo,
- 19:13Speaker 1: just in his Rambo military equipment and his goofy black
- 19:19Speaker 1: shirt and red tie, decided to rush the president of
- 19:23Speaker 1: the United States with a shotgun. And this judge is
- 19:28Speaker 1: worried that he doesn't have the most comfortable bed in
- 19:31Speaker 1: the whole jail. It's outrageous. So just an update on
- 19:35Speaker 1: what exactly is going on there. We've got a lot
- 19:38Speaker 1: more to get to coming up. Actually, there was an
- 19:40Speaker 1: armed man yesterday who fired on the Secret Service near
- 19:44Speaker 1: the White House. I've got a brief update on that
- 19:45Speaker 1: subject because the threats to the president and the vice
- 19:48Speaker 1: president continue. It's all ahead on this edition of VIMS.
- 19:52Speaker 1: And then, of course, Luke Rosiak is just minutes away.
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- 21:23Speaker 1: All right. So M Myers 0313 says, God bless America.
- 21:26Speaker 1: God bless America. I totally, I totally agree with you. Oh,
- 21:30Speaker 1: by the way, the reason I wanted to play the, the,
- 21:34Speaker 1: the entire national anthem, not, not just because I love it.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I do love the Star Spangled Banner, but you know,
- 21:39Speaker 1: it was years ago when I first started in radio
- 21:41Speaker 1: in Washington, D.C., We had a board out by the
- 21:45Speaker 1: name of Mike McKay, the late great Mike McKay. He's
- 21:50Speaker 1: a Vietnam veteran. He was a medic in Vietnam. Just
- 21:53Speaker 1: an amazing man, just an amazing man. And he told
- 21:55Speaker 1: me very early in radio that if we ever played
- 21:58Speaker 1: clips of the Star Spangled Banner, that it was good
- 22:02Speaker 1: form to play them in their entirety, not to play
- 22:05Speaker 1: truncated versions of the clips. that instead you should play
- 22:09Speaker 1: them in their entirety. So ever since then, I've always
- 22:11Speaker 1: adhered to that guidance. I've always thought that that was
- 22:13Speaker 1: the right way to do it. You know, I try
- 22:16Speaker 1: not to play the national anthem without playing it in
- 22:19Speaker 1: its entirety. So that's why we did that today, just
- 22:22Speaker 1: so you know. But yeah, no, it is. I agree
- 22:24Speaker 1: with you, Cynthia. Cynthia says she cries every time she
- 22:26Speaker 1: hears those guys singing the anthem. I get emotional about
- 22:30Speaker 1: it too. Just an amazing, an amazing thing. So that's
- 22:35Speaker 1: why we played it.
- 22:36Speaker 5: All right.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Let's talk about some other elements here. Yesterday, there was
- 22:42Speaker 1: a guy walking by the White House. Apparently, a plainclothes
- 22:47Speaker 1: Secret Service officer saw this guy and saw the outline
- 22:52Speaker 1: of the gun under his clothing. They're apparently trained to
- 22:56Speaker 1: look for this. And I don't know how obvious it was.
- 22:59Speaker 1: We haven't seen the pictures or anything. But They send
- 23:04Speaker 1: uniformed cops over, uniformed Secret Service guys over to confront
- 23:07Speaker 1: the guy. And then at some point, the guy ends
- 23:09Speaker 1: up drawing his weapon and it begins firing at the
- 23:11Speaker 1: Secret Service officers. Well, that's how you get shot. So
- 23:15Speaker 1: that's how the Secret Service officers shot him. They gunned
- 23:18Speaker 1: him down yesterday. Watch this. This is an assessment from
- 23:23Speaker 1: a Secret Service official yesterday explaining what happened. And this
- 23:27Speaker 1: was just after J.D. Vance's motorcade went by. Cut to watch.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Approximately 3.30 this afternoon are plainclothes officers and agents that
- 23:39Speaker 5: consistently patrol the outer perimeter of the White House complex,
- 23:43Speaker 5: identified a suspicious individual. that appeared to have a firearm.
- 23:48Speaker 5: They called in support from our marked uniformed Secret Service
- 23:52Speaker 5: police to make contact with that individual. Upon making contact,
- 23:56Speaker 5: that individual fled briefly on foot, withdrew a firearm, and
- 24:00Speaker 5: fired in the direction of our agents and officers. They
- 24:04Speaker 5: returned fire and engaged. That individual was hit. He's since
- 24:08Speaker 5: been transported to the hospital. I have no comments on
- 24:12Speaker 5: his condition. I can tell you that at least one,
- 24:15Speaker 5: we believe only one bystander was hit by the suspect.
- 24:20Speaker 5: That individual, it's a juvenile, did not sustain any life-threatening injuries,
- 24:25Speaker 5: but he's also receiving treatment at the hospital.
- 24:30Speaker 1: A juvenile was hit by the gunman. And then that
- 24:35Speaker 1: apparently was a 15-year-old boy. A 15-year-old boy was shot
- 24:42Speaker 1: by the gunman. Secret Service, this is the New York Times,
- 24:45Speaker 1: Secret Service shoots and wounds armed man near Washington Monument.
- 24:48Speaker 1: A 15-year-old boy was also hit. The motorcade of Vice
- 24:51Speaker 1: President J.D. Vance had just passed through the area shortly
- 24:54Speaker 1: before the shooting. The Secret Service shooting and wounding the
- 24:58Speaker 1: armed man Monday afternoon just south of the White House
- 25:00Speaker 1: in a burst of gunfire that also grazed that young
- 25:03Speaker 1: bystander in an area that was packed with pedestrians. There
- 25:08Speaker 1: was no indication that the man, who was taken to
- 25:10Speaker 1: a hospital with multiple gunshot wounds, was targeting anyone in
- 25:13Speaker 1: the executive complex and Chris McDonald, a congressional affairs official
- 25:17Speaker 1: with the Secret Service. President Trump was not in any danger.
- 25:21Speaker 1: There's currently no known nexus between the incident and the
- 25:24Speaker 1: White House. J.D. Vance had just passed through in his
- 25:27Speaker 1: motorcade in that area, a heavily trafficked route for official vehicles,
- 25:32Speaker 1: as well as people visiting the nearby Washington Monument shortly
- 25:35Speaker 1: before the confrontation took place. The condition of the armed man,
- 25:39Speaker 1: not known. A firearm was recovered at the scene. The
- 25:42Speaker 1: 15-year-old was being treated for non-life-threatening gunshot wounds. So that's
- 25:48Speaker 1: the update there. Now, look, I You know, this story
- 25:53Speaker 1: starts with a guy was carrying a gun in a
- 25:56Speaker 1: concealed way, apparently. And, you know, I happen to think
- 26:01Speaker 1: that Americans should be able to carry concealed all over
- 26:04Speaker 1: the country. I mean, that's a Second Amendment right. When
- 26:08Speaker 1: you draw your weapon and then you start firing at
- 26:11Speaker 1: police officers, that's how you get gunned down. So I
- 26:14Speaker 1: can't tell you anything really about this guy other than
- 26:16Speaker 1: the limited information we know. But here's what I do know.
- 26:19Speaker 1: If he drew his weapon on cops, of course he's
- 26:21Speaker 1: going to get shot, psycho. So don't do that. Don't
- 26:24Speaker 1: draw your weapon on police officers. Don't do that. So
- 26:29Speaker 1: guy gets gunned down. But here's the Secret Service in
- 26:31Speaker 1: yet another exchange of gunfire. this time striking their target,
- 26:36Speaker 1: this time striking the guy who was firing the gun
- 26:39Speaker 1: and sent him to the hospital. Again, condition unknown at
- 26:46Speaker 1: this hour. All right. More on Vice President J.D. Vance
- 26:49Speaker 1: coming up in a second. I want to talk to
- 26:52Speaker 1: you about the fraud that he's pursuing because our next
- 26:56Speaker 1: guest is digging in on a bunch of fraud and
- 26:59Speaker 1: it's caught the attention of the Vice President of the
- 27:01Speaker 1: United States. And it involves the state of Ohio. That's
- 27:05Speaker 1: where J.D. Vance comes from, of course. This is Luke
- 27:09Speaker 1: Rosiak's reporting. He says that 94 Medicaid home health companies
- 27:14Speaker 1: are all apparently in one office building that doesn't have
- 27:18Speaker 1: any windows in Ohio. They're taking more than $ 66 million
- 27:21Speaker 1: of your money. And apparently these so-called home health companies
- 27:27Speaker 1: provide free butlers to immigrants. To immigrants. Do you have
- 27:31Speaker 1: a free butler, ladies and gentlemen?
- 27:33Speaker 4: Anybody?
- 27:34Speaker 1: I need a free butler. Where's my free butler? And
- 27:37Speaker 1: by the way, it's not free. It's not free. It's
- 27:39Speaker 1: you and I have to pay for the butlers. For
- 27:41Speaker 1: the immigrants, $ 66 million of our money going to a
- 27:47Speaker 1: windowless building allegedly for buttling immigrants. Is buttling the correct term?
- 27:54Speaker 1: Is that right? Is buttling a word? Buttling. I don't know.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Is buttling a real word? I don't know. It doesn't matter.
- 28:03Speaker 1: I guess the more important thing is, why is our
- 28:05Speaker 1: money being stolen? Luke Rosiak's digging in on this. And J.D.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Vance says these shocking allegations of true show why the
- 28:14Speaker 1: fraud task force work is so important. J.D. Vance is
- 28:17Speaker 1: directing the task force to look into it and to
- 28:20Speaker 1: take immediate action to prosecute any fraudsters involved, and stop
- 28:24Speaker 1: all further payments as appropriate. They're digging into it. And
- 28:29Speaker 1: Chad tells me, butdling is a word. It's butdling. I
- 28:32Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was a word. Somewhere
- 28:33Speaker 1: deep in the recesses of my mind, I was thinking
- 28:35Speaker 1: that butdling was a thing. I think it is. Yes, indeed.
- 28:39Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to our guest here in just
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- 31:20Speaker 1: a longtime friend, a guy who's been in journalism and
- 31:22Speaker 1: doing such good work for so long. And he's got
- 31:26Speaker 1: a huge story that he's uncorking right now. Luke Rosiak
- 31:29Speaker 1: joins us. He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Wire
- 31:32Speaker 1: and he's here on the program today. Hello, Luke. Good
- 31:34Speaker 1: to see you again, sir. Hey Vince, thanks for having me.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Okay, man.
- 31:37Speaker 1: So you have gone, I noticed, I was like, where's Luke?
- 31:40Speaker 1: Luke had gone dark. Luke had disappeared. And you've basically
- 31:43Speaker 1: gone into witness protection. You just completely fell off the
- 31:45Speaker 1: face of the earth. But the reason you disappeared is
- 31:48Speaker 1: because you've spent the last few months digging into a massive,
- 31:51Speaker 1: massive story. Tell us about it.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it gets into what Medicaid really is
- 31:58Speaker 2: spent on. And this is a huge portion of the
- 32:00Speaker 2: federal budget. And when Doge was Looking for things to
- 32:04Speaker 2: cut or even going back decades, we were always told, well, Medicaid,
- 32:09Speaker 2: you can't touch that. It's non-discretionary funding. It's just people
- 32:12Speaker 2: going to the doctor. It's not like something you can
- 32:14Speaker 2: look into and say, well, we should cut this program.
- 32:17Speaker 2: We should cut that program. But it turns out that
- 32:21Speaker 2: it's a huge pool of money that is spent with
- 32:24Speaker 2: almost no oversight in some of the sections that I
- 32:27Speaker 2: looked at.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Yes. So just so people understand, Medicaid money, the way
- 32:31Speaker 1: it's distributed, the feds just give it to the states,
- 32:35Speaker 1: and then the states kind of dole it out as
- 32:37Speaker 1: they will, right?
- 32:37Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's at the root of the problem.
- 32:40Speaker 2: It's the other people's money problem, right? I mean, so
- 32:42Speaker 2: if like 70% of it is coming from the feds,
- 32:47Speaker 2: I think some of the states don't even care if
- 32:49Speaker 2: it's being squandered. They're like, yeah, maybe it'll go into
- 32:52Speaker 2: a trickle down into our economy some way that'll be helpful.
- 32:55Speaker 2: I think that's what happened in Minnesota, where a lot
- 32:59Speaker 2: of the stuff, basically all the fraud you hear about
- 33:01Speaker 2: in Minnesota, except maybe the daycares, has to do with
- 33:05Speaker 2: these Medicaid waivers, which give certain states permission to bill
- 33:10Speaker 2: the federal taxpayers more than other states. And that's what
- 33:13Speaker 2: I looked into. In general, these waivers, and that specifically
- 33:19Speaker 2: took me to a red state, the state of Ohio. Okay.
- 33:24Speaker 1: So you go to Ohio. And you say it's a
- 33:26Speaker 1: red state, so you would hope that the Republicans would
- 33:29Speaker 1: be managing things well. But you found that, unfortunately, that's
- 33:32Speaker 1: not the case, that there seems to be a big
- 33:35Speaker 1: mess in Ohio. What did you find?
- 33:38Speaker 2: Well, they have a similar waiver to Minnesota and some
- 33:41Speaker 2: other states where they pay not only just home health care,
- 33:48Speaker 2: which is like, is somebody a nurse to come to
- 33:51Speaker 2: your house? But they took it further and they allow
- 33:53Speaker 2: what's called personal services. which I call butlers for Somalis.
- 33:58Speaker 2: These are taxpayer funded butlers for Somalis and they will
- 34:02Speaker 2: come and they will cook for you, clean for you.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Maybe you need somebody to do your hair, anything you need,
- 34:08Speaker 2: just sort of a personal helper. And, you know, originally
- 34:13Speaker 2: this started for like, if you're as an alternative to
- 34:17Speaker 2: going to a nursing home, that was the argument. And
- 34:19Speaker 2: it's one that makes sense in theory that, If we
- 34:22Speaker 2: were going to spend $ 100, 000 putting you in a nursing home,
- 34:26Speaker 2: if we could somehow avoid that by spending 40 grand,
- 34:31Speaker 2: spending somebody coming to your house to do your nursing, okay,
- 34:36Speaker 2: it saves money. But the problem is nobody really fakes
- 34:41Speaker 2: their way into a nursing home. Nobody wants to go
- 34:44Speaker 2: sit with their head in a bowl of applesauce in
- 34:48Speaker 2: a nursing home. There's no incentive to pretend to be
- 34:51Speaker 2: more sick to get into a nursing home. But if
- 34:53Speaker 2: you can say, well, I'm just sick, but I don't
- 34:55Speaker 2: want to go to a nursing home, just give me
- 34:58Speaker 2: stuff in my house, suddenly people want to pretend to
- 35:03Speaker 2: be sick. You have a 65-year-old mom, she gets a
- 35:07Speaker 2: note from the doctor, and suddenly you've untapped these Medicaid waivers. Now, Previously,
- 35:14Speaker 2: to get nursing services, you'd have to be a nurse.
- 35:17Speaker 2: But you do personal services, these butlers, that can be anyone.
- 35:20Speaker 2: And so what you get is Somalis are getting paid
- 35:23Speaker 2: to hang out with their own family members. So best
- 35:26Speaker 2: case scenario, they have a butler. Worst case, the butler
- 35:30Speaker 2: is just their own family member. So really, they're just
- 35:32Speaker 2: getting paid to hang out with their family and do
- 35:34Speaker 2: family stuff like cleaning your house or cooking your family
- 35:38Speaker 2: member dinner once in a while.
- 35:41Speaker 1: So I noticed that you went, you tracked down a
- 35:45Speaker 1: building that we just were talking about this a moment ago.
- 35:48Speaker 1: You tracked down a building, an office building. And fellas,
- 35:51Speaker 1: I'm going to put this on screen. Let me put
- 35:52Speaker 1: this back on screen, if you would, if we can
- 35:53Speaker 1: go full screen here. Here is an image of the
- 35:56Speaker 1: building that you shared on social media. This is the exterior.
- 36:00Speaker 1: There are no visible windows on this building. This is
- 36:04Speaker 1: in Ohio. And you say that it contains a ton
- 36:08Speaker 1: of these so-called home health companies. In fact, there are
- 36:11Speaker 1: 94 of them in this building. And among those 94 companies,
- 36:15Speaker 1: they've taken $ 66 million in taxpayer money. Tell us about
- 36:20Speaker 1: this building and what you encountered.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's in the Northeast Columbus. It's where most
- 36:26Speaker 2: of the refugees and Africans live. And there's a whole
- 36:30Speaker 2: street like that with a lot of big office buildings
- 36:33Speaker 2: that Inside, they just have these little LLCs that nobody
- 36:38Speaker 2: is really inside of the companies. There's no customers going there.
- 36:43Speaker 2: But you also drive down the street and you can
- 36:46Speaker 2: see little standalone ones. You drive down the street and
- 36:51Speaker 2: all the other businesses have just gone because it's more
- 36:54Speaker 2: lucrative just to build the government to hang out with
- 36:57Speaker 2: your own family. And so the reason that there's these
- 37:00Speaker 2: little businesses is if I've if I'm getting paid to
- 37:04Speaker 2: hang out with my 65 year old mom, um, I
- 37:08Speaker 2: don't have a way to get paid by Medicaid. So I,
- 37:11Speaker 2: I become an employee of a company that bills Medicaid
- 37:15Speaker 2: takes a cut for itself and then pays me an
- 37:17Speaker 2: hourly rate. Um, that's just how it works. Cause you
- 37:20Speaker 2: need an LLC that has what they call the MPI
- 37:23Speaker 2: to bill Medicaid. Um, And so that's what's fascinating to
- 37:26Speaker 2: me here is that's where you get these companies that
- 37:29Speaker 2: are getting like $ 1 million to $ 10 million sometimes a year,
- 37:36Speaker 2: sometimes over a couple years. It can be millions of
- 37:38Speaker 2: dollars a year easily. And so we used to talk,
- 37:43Speaker 2: and it sounds so quaint now, about the welfare queen.
- 37:46Speaker 2: And maybe it's a woman on welfare and she gets
- 37:50Speaker 2: $ 500 a month and she buys food that we think
- 37:52Speaker 2: is too nice. That seems so small compared to what's
- 37:56Speaker 2: going on now. The real welfare queens are the providers
- 38:00Speaker 2: of poverty services now. They're corporations that are getting paid
- 38:04Speaker 2: by the government to ostensibly provide services to the people
- 38:09Speaker 2: whose incomes are low enough to qualify them for Medicaid.
- 38:12Speaker 1: And there's very little evidence that they're really doing much
- 38:15Speaker 1: like service at all to begin with. I mean, I
- 38:18Speaker 1: keep seeing these images and videos of people buying like
- 38:21Speaker 1: Maybachs and luxury vehicles and just all this nonsense and
- 38:25Speaker 1: dumping money into houses, sending it overseas and thinking like
- 38:29Speaker 1: this is of no benefit to the American taxpayer, yet
- 38:32Speaker 1: we're having our money taken from us in order to
- 38:35Speaker 1: just be stolen.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I went out to Columbus and what
- 38:42Speaker 2: I saw was Buildings that no sane person would think
- 38:46Speaker 2: these are like great businesses that definitely earned like millions
- 38:49Speaker 2: of dollars a year. Like these buildings are totally empty
- 38:52Speaker 2: for the most part. Like most of the offices have
- 38:54Speaker 2: nobody in them. They've got mail piling up. Sometimes they
- 38:57Speaker 2: have these signs on the door that say we're out
- 38:59Speaker 2: to lunch, but it just seems like it's just like
- 39:01Speaker 2: a lie. There's just like something is not right. And
- 39:05Speaker 2: you look into the people that own these businesses, they
- 39:08Speaker 2: oftentimes have tax debts. So they're getting millions of dollars
- 39:12Speaker 2: from the government. from taxpayers and they don't even pay
- 39:16Speaker 2: their own taxes. And it's like, how could you get
- 39:18Speaker 2: a million dollars a year? And you haven't, you can't
- 39:21Speaker 2: even pay your taxes.
- 39:22Speaker 1: So that's a great question. So in addition to that,
- 39:27Speaker 1: I saw in your reporting, you said some of the
- 39:28Speaker 1: recipients who've been taking this money also have criminal records
- 39:32Speaker 1: in the past. So how is it that someone with
- 39:34Speaker 1: a criminal record would qualify for receiving federal taxpayer money?
- 39:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm going to be
- 39:42Speaker 2: rolling out stories, sort of case studies every day this week.
- 39:46Speaker 2: And you'll hear a crazy one where this guy, I
- 39:50Speaker 2: have audio of him talking about his extensive criminal record.
- 39:54Speaker 2: There's another one I'm going to get into that I
- 39:56Speaker 2: kind of teased so far, which is there was a
- 40:00Speaker 2: guy who's an accountant and he lost his accountant license
- 40:03Speaker 2: because he was busted for stealing federal funds. And then
- 40:08Speaker 2: he went and he created a Medicaid business using the
- 40:12Speaker 2: address of a convicted money launderer's teenage son. So it's like, oh,
- 40:17Speaker 2: this 17-year-old is creating this $ 7 million Medicaid business. And
- 40:21Speaker 2: what if a 17-year-old is doing that? Oh, it's really
- 40:23Speaker 2: this other guy. And oh, this teenager's dad just got
- 40:27Speaker 2: out of prison. But the state of Ohio is like, yeah,
- 40:30Speaker 2: you can just have $ 7 million. It's fine. I mean,
- 40:33Speaker 2: 70% of that $ 7 million comes from the federal government anyway.
- 40:37Speaker 2: It's not our state budget. So yeah, I mean, I
- 40:41Speaker 2: went there and I did. you know, found similar to
- 40:45Speaker 2: like what Nick Shirley found in Minnesota. But I also did,
- 40:48Speaker 2: you know, what you know that I've done for a
- 40:50Speaker 2: long time, just doing my database stuff and my research
- 40:53Speaker 2: and carefully going through everything. And I worked with the
- 40:56Speaker 2: Capital Research Center and you know how they're great researchers
- 41:00Speaker 2: over there. We were really meticulous about everything and we
- 41:03Speaker 2: went through the backstories of these people. So it kind
- 41:06Speaker 2: of builds on what Nick Shirley did and it found
- 41:09Speaker 2: similar conclusions. And then it took it further by being like, yeah,
- 41:12Speaker 2: this wasn't like, It wasn't like it just looked weird,
- 41:16Speaker 2: but there's really an explanation. Yes. The explanation is actually
- 41:19Speaker 2: so much worse when you really go into the backgrounds
- 41:22Speaker 2: of these individuals.
- 41:23Speaker 1: So one of the only reasons that you were in
- 41:25Speaker 1: a position to do this is because the Trump administration
- 41:27Speaker 1: open sourced the Medicaid data, right? So in other words,
- 41:30Speaker 1: they posted a massive database of Medicaid expenditures and the
- 41:36Speaker 1: things that they were supposedly spent on, just the codes
- 41:39Speaker 1: that indicate what that money was supposedly spent on and
- 41:42Speaker 1: what company handled the money. Is that right?
- 41:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge deal. And I think it's maybe
- 41:48Speaker 2: the biggest move for government transparency ever. Barack Obama used
- 41:53Speaker 2: to talk about being the most transparent president and also
- 41:57Speaker 2: using data and technology to make government more efficient. But
- 42:01Speaker 2: he never released this. This is way more money than
- 42:04Speaker 2: anything else. And it never made any sense to conceal
- 42:07Speaker 2: it because there's no information about patients in here. We're
- 42:10Speaker 2: not trying to dive into somebody's medical business. That's private.
- 42:14Speaker 2: These are corporations that are getting paid your money. And
- 42:17Speaker 2: if we don't know they're even getting paid, it's literally
- 42:20Speaker 2: impossible for anybody to be like, that's fraud or to
- 42:24Speaker 2: alert the government that something doesn't seem right. So it's like,
- 42:27Speaker 2: no wonder these people were so blatant, so emboldened, so indignant,
- 42:31Speaker 2: so entitled. They never thought they were going to get
- 42:34Speaker 2: caught because our own government wasn't even telling you the
- 42:37Speaker 2: corporations that were getting millions of dollars. And so I
- 42:40Speaker 2: do wonder if some of the Democrats kind of knew
- 42:42Speaker 2: this wasn't going to look right, because this should have
- 42:44Speaker 2: been something Barack Obama would have been excited to release
- 42:47Speaker 2: and find efficiencies in the health care system and to
- 42:51Speaker 2: stick it to corporations that are defrauding taxpayers and sometimes
- 42:54Speaker 2: not even paying their own taxes.
- 42:56Speaker 1: The national debt is approaching $ 40 trillion right now in
- 42:59Speaker 1: the United States of America. Among the biggest line items
- 43:02Speaker 1: we have in our entire government are Medicaid and Medicare expenditures.
- 43:06Speaker 1: And what we keep hearing now by virtue of reporting
- 43:09Speaker 1: like yours, Luke, is that they are the source of
- 43:11Speaker 1: massive amounts of fraud. What is the scale of this,
- 43:15Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, I know that you'd be
- 43:16Speaker 1: venturing a guess here, but the closer you look at this,
- 43:19Speaker 1: how much fraud do you think is dominating this system
- 43:21Speaker 1: right now?
- 43:23Speaker 2: I think that part of it depends on how you
- 43:27Speaker 2: define fraud. I think some of these programs are themselves
- 43:32Speaker 2: essentially have little utility or it's impossible to prove fraud
- 43:38Speaker 2: in like to the extent that you would need in
- 43:40Speaker 2: criminal court because of the nature of the program. So
- 43:43Speaker 2: the programs are so inherently difficult to actually verify that,
- 43:48Speaker 2: in my opinion, they should all count as essentially fraud,
- 43:52Speaker 2: waste and abuse, and we need to get rid of them.
- 43:54Speaker 2: And you're certainly talking about the hundreds of billions of
- 43:57Speaker 2: dollars over the last several years. I mean, let's say
- 44:00Speaker 2: $ 100 billion a year would be, you know, reasonable. maybe more.
- 44:05Speaker 2: And so when people were trying to cut the budget
- 44:08Speaker 2: and Doge was doing its thing, there would be people
- 44:11Speaker 2: on the left who said, you guys are wasting your time.
- 44:13Speaker 2: There is no fat in the budget because you look
- 44:15Speaker 2: at a pie chart and it's, as you said, a
- 44:17Speaker 2: huge chunk of the budget is just Medicaid. And they're like,
- 44:20Speaker 2: there's nothing to see there. Once you open up Medicaid
- 44:24Speaker 2: as a place where you can find savings, maybe we
- 44:26Speaker 2: can prevent our country from going bankrupt and we'll all
- 44:31Speaker 2: wind up as as slaves to China. And that's a
- 44:34Speaker 2: good thing. We should all be happy about getting rid
- 44:36Speaker 2: of total waste that's doing nothing but just to enrich
- 44:40Speaker 2: a few corporations. But I think we have to open
- 44:45Speaker 2: up the conversation about, well, so first of all, just
- 44:48Speaker 2: to throw in some numbers to your questions, I mean,
- 44:50Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, it's like half of its budget
- 44:53Speaker 2: is Medicaid. And then you look at the Medicaid spending
- 44:56Speaker 2: in Ohio, it's basically doubled over the last few years.
- 45:00Speaker 2: And so what's happened here in Ohio is sending it
- 45:03Speaker 2: and us in general as a country on the course
- 45:06Speaker 2: for a financial ruin. And, you know, the component that
- 45:12Speaker 2: I'm looking at this week gets to the personal services,
- 45:15Speaker 2: those butlers. Can we afford to send people to people's
- 45:19Speaker 2: houses and just do like regular family member stuff? Nothing medical,
- 45:23Speaker 2: nothing that requires training. Can we afford it in general?
- 45:26Speaker 2: And can we afford it knowing that some portion of
- 45:29Speaker 2: that is fraud and it would be very difficult to
- 45:31Speaker 2: prove otherwise? Because we're not like we don't have like
- 45:34Speaker 2: cameras on like every old lady's house. And that's what
- 45:37Speaker 2: I think that especially when you introduce immigration from places
- 45:43Speaker 2: like Somalia, if they're going to start exploiting programs that
- 45:46Speaker 2: maybe have existed for years without too much difficulty. It
- 45:50Speaker 2: may be that certain things that we've historically gotten away
- 45:53Speaker 2: with just based on the general goodwill of Americans, unfortunately,
- 45:57Speaker 2: they may no longer be viable programs for anybody that
- 46:03Speaker 2: wants to– the country– anybody who thinks money doesn't have
- 46:07Speaker 2: infinite supply may have to conclude that we can no
- 46:09Speaker 2: longer do these kind of programs. Okay.
- 46:11Speaker 1: So I mentioned that the vice president of the United
- 46:14Speaker 1: States is clearly aware of your reporting. He posted about
- 46:17Speaker 1: it on X this week. saying that he's directing the
- 46:20Speaker 1: task force to look into what you have discovered. Tell
- 46:24Speaker 1: us what you can about that.
- 46:27Speaker 2: So I think that I'm going to keep rolling out,
- 46:31Speaker 2: including later today, addresses and buildings and company names and
- 46:39Speaker 2: dollar amounts. that are billing huge amounts for people who
- 46:44Speaker 2: are basically, one guy told me 70% of these people
- 46:47Speaker 2: are just the relatives of the people they're spending time with,
- 46:50Speaker 2: so the butlers. I have a lot of red flags
- 46:54Speaker 2: that I'm gonna be disclosing in the stories that really
- 46:58Speaker 2: raise questions about how legitimate these businesses are. And they're
- 47:02Speaker 2: gonna have to see, is this something that were rules
- 47:06Speaker 2: broken or were the rules themselves kind of like idiotic
- 47:12Speaker 2: if you want to say that or toothless where it's
- 47:14Speaker 2: like they can just blatantly do it and be like
- 47:16Speaker 2: yep you guys made this medicaid waiver you gave us
- 47:19Speaker 2: this waiver where medicaid was supposed to be for health
- 47:22Speaker 2: care services but the waiver says it can also be
- 47:24Speaker 2: for butlers so that's what we did and how are
- 47:27Speaker 2: you going to prove that i wasn't actually at my
- 47:29Speaker 2: cousin uh omar's house last year at at 3 p.m
- 47:34Speaker 2: you know do you have footage of it how are
- 47:35Speaker 2: you going to convict me.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Yeah it's craziness But you are grateful that the vice
- 47:40Speaker 1: president is on this?
- 47:41Speaker 2: Oh, super, super grateful. And the other guy in charge
- 47:45Speaker 2: of that anti-fraud task force, Andrew Ferguson, is a really
- 47:48Speaker 2: competent lawyer. We know him from here in Virginia, and
- 47:51Speaker 2: now he's the head of the Federal Trade Commission. Really
- 47:55Speaker 2: great duo there that if anyone could do it, they could.
- 47:59Speaker 2: So J.D. Vance is obviously from Ohio. This is a
- 48:02Speaker 2: red state. If they can't get Ohio under control, To me,
- 48:07Speaker 2: this takes on even it's even more infuriating than Minnesota.
- 48:12Speaker 2: But yeah, there's the fraud angle. And then there's going
- 48:14Speaker 2: to be the discussions about whether maybe the waivers just
- 48:17Speaker 2: need to be terminated. And we end this program outright
- 48:19Speaker 2: because maybe fraud, if they can, maybe fraud is detection
- 48:24Speaker 2: is a game of whack-a-mole where you put, you know,
- 48:28Speaker 2: Mohammed Ahmed in jail and then his brother, Ahmed Mohammed.
- 48:34Speaker 2: opens up a new company and it's just like, all right,
- 48:39Speaker 2: you get rid of one, another one pops up, they're
- 48:42Speaker 2: moving assets around maybe. At the end of the day,
- 48:44Speaker 2: is this making us feel good, but we're still headed
- 48:47Speaker 2: for bankruptcy? Is the long-term solution and maybe the much
- 48:50Speaker 2: easier solution just getting rid of this program that says,
- 48:53Speaker 2: we're going to pay you to hang out with your
- 48:55Speaker 2: family members?
- 48:56Speaker 1: Well, this is also what happens when you open your borders.
- 48:58Speaker 1: at the same time and create a welfare state. So
- 49:01Speaker 1: when you do that, you destroy an entire country. And
- 49:04Speaker 1: we're witnessing that if it isn't stopped, and you are
- 49:07Speaker 1: a part of the solution to stopping it by telling
- 49:09Speaker 1: the truth about it and getting the right people on
- 49:11Speaker 1: top of it. Luke, we are looking forward to the
- 49:14Speaker 1: rest of your reporting. Thank you so much for your
- 49:16Speaker 1: time today, brother. Good to talk to you as always.
- 49:18Speaker 2: You too, Vince.
- 49:19Speaker 1: There he is, Luke Rosie. of The Daily Wire. Check
- 49:21Speaker 1: out his reporting on this subject. Appreciate this guy and
- 49:25Speaker 1: the work that him and the team have put in,
- 49:27Speaker 1: the Capital Research Center put into this. Really, really important stuff.
- 49:31Speaker 1: That is what we call service journalism. That matters a
- 49:34Speaker 1: great deal. We have a country that's worth saving from
- 49:37Speaker 1: the people who would wish to do us harm, who've
- 49:39Speaker 1: been stealing from us. Crazy. Speaking of the theft going
- 49:43Speaker 1: on in America, I'm also concerned about the theft of
- 49:45Speaker 1: our elections, the election rigging. Stephen Miller had another banger
- 49:49Speaker 1: over the White House yesterday. He posted the following. He
- 49:52Speaker 1: said the combination of illegal alien apportionment. flawed censuses, and
- 49:58Speaker 1: unconstitutionally racially gerrymandered districts has created an artificial 40-plus House
- 50:05Speaker 1: seats for Democrats. Over 40 ill-gotten House seats by the Democrats.
- 50:11Speaker 1: Let me put that differently. That's election rigging. What Stephen
- 50:16Speaker 1: Miller is describing is election rigging. If you get 40
- 50:20Speaker 1: unearned House seats because you've allowed illegal aliens to pour
- 50:24Speaker 1: into our country, you've aided and abetted that, you use
- 50:27Speaker 1: them for head counts in the United States Census. The
- 50:30Speaker 1: Census overcounts blue states and undercounts red states. and then
- 50:35Speaker 1: you racially gerrymander districts in order to accrue power, you're
- 50:39Speaker 1: stealing from the American people. You're diminishing the power of
- 50:42Speaker 1: the average American's vote. You're watering down voters. And the
- 50:47Speaker 1: effect is that over 40 seats in the House right
- 50:50Speaker 1: now have been stolen by Democrats by this math. It's amazing.
- 50:55Speaker 1: It's just amazing when you put it in those terms,
- 50:58Speaker 1: what's happening to the country right now, which is why
- 51:01Speaker 1: we have been, you and I have been so locked
- 51:03Speaker 1: in on election integrity, the Save America Act, and getting
- 51:08Speaker 1: some of these districts sorted out so that they're not
- 51:10Speaker 1: drawn in a racist way anymore. Last week, we got
- 51:13Speaker 1: the big Supreme Court decision, Louisiana v. Calais, Louisiana v. Calais,
- 51:16Speaker 1: where the justices ruled that racist districting is completely unconstitutional.
- 51:23Speaker 1: Can't do that. You can't draw districts on the basis
- 51:24Speaker 1: of race. And as a result, Democrats are set to
- 51:27Speaker 1: lose power because if you strip out the racism, Democrats
- 51:30Speaker 1: lose power. That's the history of their whole party. And
- 51:32Speaker 1: so that's what the Supreme Court did last week. Now, yesterday,
- 51:37Speaker 1: the Supreme Court issued another order related to that ruling.
- 51:41Speaker 1: And this will get into something of a technicality here,
- 51:43Speaker 1: but I'll just quickly explain. It's easy to understand. Which
- 51:46Speaker 1: is after every Supreme Court opinion, it takes 32 days, typically,
- 51:51Speaker 1: to officially transmit it back to the state courts, to
- 51:55Speaker 1: the lower courts. It's a 32-day sequence of events. The
- 52:00Speaker 1: reason that there's a 32-day pause between the opinion being
- 52:04Speaker 1: issued publicly and being sent and being officially sent to
- 52:07Speaker 1: the state courts is because it allows the people who
- 52:13Speaker 1: are involved, the appellants, an opportunity to file an appeal
- 52:19Speaker 1: for rehearing with the Supreme Court. You can appeal to
- 52:21Speaker 1: the Supreme Court for a rehearing. Now, that's not something
- 52:25Speaker 1: that you almost ever see because the court almost never
- 52:28Speaker 1: grants a rehearing. In fact, The last time there were
- 52:31Speaker 1: re-hearings was back in the 50s and the 60s. I
- 52:34Speaker 1: think it was the 50s for a substantive issue. It's
- 52:36Speaker 1: really basically if the court had some sort of substantial
- 52:40Speaker 1: error in law and somebody wants to make an appeal
- 52:42Speaker 1: and go, no, no, no, you really screwed this up
- 52:44Speaker 1: and here's why. And then the court would re-hear it.
- 52:46Speaker 1: But this almost never happens. It's been a very, very
- 52:48Speaker 1: long time since it has. So, but it's just, this
- 52:52Speaker 1: is the custom 32 days. Yesterday, the Supreme Court said,
- 52:56Speaker 1: we don't have time to waste. This decision affects this
- 52:59Speaker 1: year's elections immediately. We can't let this continue. So yesterday,
- 53:04Speaker 1: Justice Alito issued a ruling saying, we don't wait the
- 53:07Speaker 1: full 32 days. We're sending it to the court now.
- 53:10Speaker 1: It's what they're saying. They're fast tracking the Louisiana voting
- 53:13Speaker 1: map decision yesterday in the words of the New York Times.
- 53:17Speaker 1: And if you look closely at what the, what Justice
- 53:22Speaker 1: Alito did here yesterday, it's kind of an amazing, just,
- 53:25Speaker 1: this is a truly, truly amazing order because of what
- 53:29Speaker 1: Alito said and what Justice Katonji Brown Jackson said in dissent.
- 53:35Speaker 1: Here's what Alito said. To permit the losing party time
- 53:38Speaker 1: to file a petition for rehearing, the clerk of court
- 53:42Speaker 1: ordinarily waits 32 days after the entry of the court's
- 53:45Speaker 1: judgment to send the opinion and the certified copy to
- 53:47Speaker 1: the clerk of the lower court. This period is subject
- 53:50Speaker 1: to adjustment, he says. And he goes on to say
- 53:55Speaker 1: that it needs to be sent immediately. Justice Alito is
- 54:00Speaker 1: joined by Justice Thomas and Justice Gorsuch in this ruling.
- 54:05Speaker 1: So they sent they send this out yesterday immediately. Now,
- 54:10Speaker 1: he goes on to absolutely tear apart Katonji Brown Jackson here.
- 54:15Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because she issues a
- 54:17Speaker 1: dissent yesterday complaining that the court issued this ruling quickly.
- 54:23Speaker 1: Let me get to her dissent first and I'll get
- 54:25Speaker 1: back to Alito's reaction to it. This is like great.
- 54:27Speaker 1: This is like this is the kind of like this
- 54:29Speaker 1: is like Supreme Court UFC to watch these guys fighting.
- 54:32Speaker 1: And Justice Katonji Brown Jackson is completely outmatched in the
- 54:35Speaker 1: octagon here. Look at this. She dissents and she says
- 54:40Speaker 1: the court's decision has spawned chaos in the state of Louisiana.
- 54:45Speaker 1: She goes on to state. that you've already had people
- 54:48Speaker 1: conducting early voting in the state. So therefore you can't
- 54:52Speaker 1: do this now, which is interesting because in Virginia, Democrats
- 54:56Speaker 1: are taking the exact opposite position. Early voting doesn't matter.
- 54:59Speaker 1: It's only about election day as they try and steal
- 55:02Speaker 1: all of the congressional seats there. But here the Democrats
- 55:05Speaker 1: are saying, well, early vote already began. So we have
- 55:08Speaker 1: to care about those early voters. And she goes on
- 55:12Speaker 1: to basically accuse Justice Alito and the rest of the
- 55:17Speaker 1: majority of being political. She's saying that this has a
- 55:24Speaker 1: strong political undercurrent, strong political undercurrent. And the court is
- 55:31Speaker 1: engaged in playing politics here, she alleges. We should be
- 55:35Speaker 1: avoiding the appearance of partiality, she says. We should stay
- 55:38Speaker 1: on the sidelines, take no position. Of course, the election's
- 55:43Speaker 1: barreling forward. She says, today the court chooses the opposite,
- 55:47Speaker 1: not content to have decided the law and now take
- 55:49Speaker 1: steps to influence its implementation. The court's decision to buck
- 55:54Speaker 1: our usual practice and issue the judgment forthwith is tantamount
- 55:58Speaker 1: to an approval of Louisiana's rush to pause the ongoing
- 56:02Speaker 1: election in order to pass a new map. And she
- 56:08Speaker 1: says that this is terrible. It's going to produce ill
- 56:10Speaker 1: will and distrust. The court is unshackling itself from all
- 56:15Speaker 1: of these constraints. It's diving into the fray. Those principles
- 56:18Speaker 1: give way to power. This abandon is unwarranted and unwise.
- 56:24Speaker 1: I dissent. So she attacks the majority for taking the
- 56:28Speaker 1: position that it did. Alito doesn't take this lying down.
- 56:32Speaker 1: So in addition to issuing the ruling here, he also
- 56:35Speaker 1: comes in And he says, I need to smack the
- 56:37Speaker 1: dissent around a little bit here. Look at his statement
- 56:40Speaker 1: on the subject. He said, the dissent in this suit
- 56:43Speaker 1: levels charges that cannot go unanswered. The dissent would require
- 56:46Speaker 1: that the 2026 congressional elections in Louisiana be held under
- 56:51Speaker 1: a map that has been held to be unconstitutional. The
- 56:56Speaker 1: dissent doesn't claim it's too late. for the state legislature
- 56:59Speaker 1: or the district court to adopt the new map that
- 57:01Speaker 1: complies with the constitution. Nor does the dissent even assert
- 57:04Speaker 1: that it is not feasible for the elections to be
- 57:07Speaker 1: held under such a map. Instead, the dissent offers two
- 57:10Speaker 1: reasons for its proposed course of action. One is trivial
- 57:13Speaker 1: at best. The other is baseless and insulting. Baseless and insulting.
- 57:21Speaker 1: It goes on to say that the 32-day rule can
- 57:23Speaker 1: be modified. We don't have to do that. We can
- 57:26Speaker 1: push it through. But then he goes on to say,
- 57:28Speaker 1: the dissent goes on to claim that our decision represents
- 57:31Speaker 1: an unprincipled use of power. That is a groundless and
- 57:35Speaker 1: utterly irresponsible charge. What principle has the court violated? The
- 57:40Speaker 1: principle that the rule of 32 days should never be
- 57:43Speaker 1: shortened even when there's a good reason to do it?
- 57:46Speaker 1: The principle that we should never take any action that
- 57:48Speaker 1: might unjustifiably be criticized as partisan? The dissent accuses the
- 57:53Speaker 1: court of unshackling itself from constraints. It's the dissents rhetoric
- 57:58Speaker 1: that lacks restraint. A well-deserved smackdown here from Justice Alito
- 58:07Speaker 1: to Katonji Brown Jackson. She's like, she didn't have to
- 58:12Speaker 1: say anything. She could have kept her mouth shut. She
- 58:14Speaker 1: could have let Alito just file the order and then
- 58:17Speaker 1: just sat there and been miserable. But instead, she let
- 58:20Speaker 1: her emotional incontinence be on display. And it's a really
- 58:24Speaker 1: key reminder of something. that you know kind of instinctively,
- 58:27Speaker 1: but it just needs to be said out loud. Katonji
- 58:30Speaker 1: Brown Jackson, a lot like her fellow but smarter colleagues,
- 58:35Speaker 1: Elena Kagan and Justice Sotomayor, they're Democrats. The whole point
- 58:43Speaker 1: of their presence on the court is to always increase
- 58:48Speaker 1: power for Democrats, always. There is no constitutional lens through
- 58:52Speaker 1: which they are filtering their judgments. Their judgments are predicated
- 58:56Speaker 1: on how does this help the Democrat Party. And Elena Kagan,
- 59:00Speaker 1: we already know that she tried to run out the
- 59:02Speaker 1: clock on this decision to begin with in order to
- 59:06Speaker 1: prevent us from having maps that were deracialized. that removed
- 59:11Speaker 1: the racial prejudice and thus removed Democrat power. She did
- 59:14Speaker 1: not want that to come to pass, which is why
- 59:16Speaker 1: she delayed the dissent. Katonji Brown Jackson was trying to
- 59:20Speaker 1: manufacture yet another delay tactic. She wanted to stall out
- 59:24Speaker 1: the court's decision for as long as possible and to
- 59:26Speaker 1: make it so that there was no chance, no reasonable
- 59:29Speaker 1: chance to redraw these maps. And thank God for Justice Alito,
- 59:34Speaker 1: one of the blessings of our government, to have a
- 59:38Speaker 1: guy like Justice Alito alongside Justice Clarence Thomas, who are
- 59:41Speaker 1: up there fighting every single day for decency, adherence to
- 59:45Speaker 1: the Constitution, loyalty to what the founders intended and to
- 59:49Speaker 1: the American people. That's what we need. And thank God
- 59:53Speaker 1: we have some of that on the court right now.
- 59:55Speaker 1: All right, I've got a lot more to get to.
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