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LANTERNS FINALE REVIEW · May The Review Be With You

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to may the review be with you
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  Speaker 1: with nick and joe i'm joe.
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  Speaker 2: And i'm nick and today we are talking about the
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  Speaker 2: season one finale of lanterns.
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  Speaker 3: Joe yeah nick i can't like you can't this is
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  Speaker 3: what this show is it's incredible it's so good I
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  Speaker 3: love this show.
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  Speaker 2: Episode 8 of Lanterns, Dirt and Stars. Finally, we get
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  Speaker 2: some answers that we've been looking for in this episode.
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  Speaker 2: We find out who killed Hal Jordan. We find out
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  Speaker 2: who broke out Sinestro. We find out.
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  Speaker 3: Some things that are hiding in plain sight.
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  Speaker 1: A weenie, if you will.
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  Speaker 3: A weenie, if you will. Joe, kick us off. Give
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  Speaker 3: me some thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Well, I was wrong. I accused Noah.
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  Speaker 1: And like the second Noah said it was me, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, God damn it. It wasn't him. Damn it.
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  Speaker 1: Like the show does this repeatedly.
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  Speaker 2: But you were right about Noah being being a man,
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  Speaker 2: being a manhunter.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So episode eight spoilers from here on out, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were correct about you did call that out,
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  Speaker 2: that there was something, you know, sketchy about Noah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so right. And it makes sense, right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I was just going to say, he just
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  Speaker 1: seemed too innocent and too perfect. And given the attention
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  Speaker 1: that Zoe would give him, it just seemed... It is Zoe, okay.
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  Speaker 1: That Zoe would... I did it again. That Zoe would
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  Speaker 1: give him... There we go. He just felt like a suspect, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like a legitimate suspect. And I was trying to think
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  Speaker 1: of reasons why he would kill Hal and discovering that
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  Speaker 1: he was a manhunter felt like a good reason. But
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  Speaker 1: what we did not take into consideration is that he,
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  Speaker 1: Noah would actually be willing to save John or save
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  Speaker 1: Hal and reveal his secret to him. Right. And what
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  Speaker 1: happened next was a little bit more emotionally complicated. And Nick,
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  Speaker 1: my immediate thoughts on this finale and why it stands
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  Speaker 1: out to me versus so many other superhero shows or
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  Speaker 1: comic book shows rather is is this didn't end with,
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  Speaker 1: I thought for sure, like some kind of big battle, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like the big moment happens, what, episode five of this season?
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  Speaker 1: The big explosions, right? Whereas this was an emotional drama, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I want to come back to this versus another
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  Speaker 1: show later, but that's my first immediate takeaway is that
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost, it ended the story on an emotional
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  Speaker 1: high note and maybe some emotional low notes, but it
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  Speaker 1: focused on that character arc rather than any sort of
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  Speaker 1: green lantern action.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. It's such a great call out.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was at the end when he, when Stuart
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  Speaker 2: calls Guy Gardner and they have that conversation, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to.
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  Speaker 3: Get after it right now? Are we going to see
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  Speaker 3: a battle? And are we going to see John get
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  Speaker 3: to use his new ring?
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  Speaker 2: Like, or his new, you know, lantern, obviously same, same
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  Speaker 2: ring from before, but, and then we didn't get that right.
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  Speaker 3: It was just an emotional moment. And that whole episode
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  Speaker 3: was like that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's incredible how they were able to just make
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  Speaker 2: the episode so intense through just the dialogue, right? There
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  Speaker 2: was no like, I was on the edge of my
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  Speaker 2: seat like the whole time, just like I was in
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  Speaker 2: episode five for completely different reasons, right? Action versus just emotion.
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  Speaker 1: Dialogue, emotion and dialogue.
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  Speaker 2: It was just, it's really incredibly well done. And they
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  Speaker 2: closed all these loops, which if you watch the after credits,
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  Speaker 2: you watch the quick wrap-up HBO does, which is always
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  Speaker 2: really appreciated. And you hear the producers and directors and
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  Speaker 2: the writers talking about what they wanted. They specifically wanted
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  Speaker 2: that for this show, right? They wanted a beginning, middle,
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  Speaker 2: and end. And they wanted to have all the questions
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  Speaker 2: answered when the season ended, which is, as a viewer, like,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, right? We're not like, Left on some cliffhanger
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  Speaker 2: where he was like, oh my God, like, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: want season two.
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  Speaker 3: To be tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Damon Lindelof has had his own character journey since his
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  Speaker 1: time in the writer's room of Lost. He has had
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  Speaker 1: his own character growth and now believes in giving audience
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  Speaker 1: members answers, satisfying answers. So thank you.
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  Speaker 2: He's had plenty of time to leave audiences hanging. So
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  Speaker 2: thank you, David, for learning from your mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. David certainly has left many people hanging from from
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  Speaker 1: loss who are still hanging. Some of us are still
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  Speaker 1: hanging in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like anyway, this isn't a lost episode again, Joe, for
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  Speaker 2: the 700th time on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We should do a Lost episode, man.
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  Speaker 3: We have to rewatch Lost to do that. Okay, here
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  Speaker 3: we go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, we have to go back.
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  Speaker 3: Back on track. Speaking of going back to the Lanterns
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  Speaker 3: episode that we're here to talk about. Okay, Noah's the Manhunter.
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  Speaker 3: He saves Hal Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: And even though he doesn't kill Hal Jordan, he uses
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  Speaker 2: the fact that Hal now knows that he is the
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  Speaker 2: Manhunter as the reason that he tells John that he
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  Speaker 2: killed him, right? He was like, and then Hal wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: let it go. Like he wouldn't let it go that
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  Speaker 2: I was the Manhunter and he came looking And looking
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  Speaker 2: for me and like wanted to see what I was
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  Speaker 2: up to, which he did, we find out. But then
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  Speaker 2: he uses that as the excuse to John to try
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  Speaker 2: to convince John that he's the one that killed him, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because he doesn't want John going after Carrie or he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't want anything to happen to his mother.
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  Speaker 1: Nature versus nurture. Nature versus nurture.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a really awesome line from Sinestro during that episode.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get to that Sinestro scene. So Noah uses
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  Speaker 2: all this, right? And he specifically mentions that Hal couldn't
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  Speaker 2: let it go, which was true, right? Because we see
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  Speaker 2: later in the episode when Hal and Carrie are having
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  Speaker 2: a conversation on the bleachers.
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  Speaker 3: That Hal actually couldn't let it go. He went to Carrie.
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  Speaker 3: He was very upset. He's like, I know who Noah is.
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  Speaker 2: He's planning something. We have to leave and figure out
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  Speaker 2: how to stop him. Hal has always had this issue
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  Speaker 2: where he can't let something go. He did it with Zoe.
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  Speaker 3: Carrie warned him. He did it with Zoe. Hal has
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  Speaker 3: not learned from his mistakes, basically.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's the baseball, right? He can't let go of
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  Speaker 1: the baseball.
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  Speaker 3: He can't let go of the baseball. Thank you. This
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  Speaker 3: is a great analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: He can't let go of the baseball. And it, in turn,
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  Speaker 3: is what gets him killed.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: it's not his fault. It's not Carrie's fault that she's
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  Speaker 2: protecting her son. She's already, she's, she warned him already
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  Speaker 2: with Zoe. So yeah, I, I found that to be.
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  Speaker 1: There's, there's a great moment earlier in the episode where
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  Speaker 1: we get to go back to 2016 when, when the
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  Speaker 1: attacks are happening and we get to revisit that moment
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  Speaker 1: that Hal is in the motel and And Carrie says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry. And Hal reminds her, you told me,
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  Speaker 1: you warned me that if I pursued this, it was
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  Speaker 1: on me. Right. And like, that's exactly what happens in 2026. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He pursues it. And what follows is on him.
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  Speaker 3: Is on him.
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  Speaker 2: Which is, I think, why John also like tells Carrie, like,
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  Speaker 2: Hal wouldn't want you to turn yourself in.
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  Speaker 3: Like, and that's exactly right. I love that moment. that
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  Speaker 3: combo with them was awesome. Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like John has this epiphany or he just knows in
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  Speaker 2: his heart. He's just like, I watched my mom be
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  Speaker 2: afraid my whole life that I wouldn't come home.
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  Speaker 3: And I know how you feel with Noah. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just like this really cool reveal that John
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  Speaker 2: knows more than a lot of people think that he does.
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  Speaker 1: It was such a great way to wrap in his
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  Speaker 1: relationship with his family and into the actual like plot
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  Speaker 1: of this story which was something i was so curious
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  Speaker 1: about like two episodes ago uh when we get to
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  Speaker 1: see 2026 and we get to see how dysfunctional his
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  Speaker 1: family has become how like fragmented they've become and was
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  Speaker 1: really ready to see how why this was going to
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  Speaker 1: be why they were telling us this right why did
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  Speaker 1: this matter in 2026 and it all comes down to
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  Speaker 1: john taking you know those fragments seeing how that journey
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  Speaker 1: happened emotionally for his family and being able to relate
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  Speaker 1: that to carrie and noah are going for are going
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  Speaker 1: through and that's ultimately as you said what leads him
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  Speaker 1: to this epiphany of what really happened who who really
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  Speaker 1: killed uh hal and why and what he should do
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  Speaker 1: next right most importantly what he should do next which
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  Speaker 1: is something he really struggles with um And he even
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  Speaker 1: asks Hal, like, Hal, what should I do? And Halogram
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  Speaker 1: does not show up to tell him, which Halogram says
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  Speaker 1: that that was John's subconscious. It was not letting him come,
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  Speaker 1: which I thought was cute.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, in that moment, I thought we might not
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  Speaker 2: see the Halogram again. And then it was really cool
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  Speaker 2: that they brought it back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the same thing. I thought that that
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  Speaker 1: was them like quietly killing him. But yeah, we get
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  Speaker 1: a we get a more proper send off. at the end.
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  Speaker 3: We do, which was very well done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling them each other that they love each other, essentially,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. And yeah, I, I have a question
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  Speaker 2: about Sinestro. If you are ready to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: Sinestro scene real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so ready to talk about the Sinestro scene. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say how like weirdly refreshing, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm alone on this mountain on this Island. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: How weirdly refreshing it is to have a major supervillain
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  Speaker 1: in the lore of some comic book, right? And he's
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  Speaker 1: not there to throw hands, right? He's not there for
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  Speaker 1: this big CGI sequence. He's there for ideology. He's there
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  Speaker 1: for dialogue. And he's trying to use his words to
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  Speaker 1: manipulate the situation. This show.
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  Speaker 3: did this super well.
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  Speaker 2: This show did this so well where it just, it
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  Speaker 2: used the ring so subtly and it was really.
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  Speaker 3: A detective show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it was a drama and it's, it was so
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  Speaker 3: perfectly done.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And it, but it's still a superhero show, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like it's still that, but I would.
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  Speaker 1: Call it a comic book show. It's definitely a comic
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  Speaker 1: book show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a comic book show, but it, and it's
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  Speaker 2: done so well. Um, and I just really appreciate them
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  Speaker 2: for how they did it.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Cause it, The lantern and the ring is such a
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  Speaker 2: cool power and it couldn't get out of hand with
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  Speaker 2: CGI as we've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen.
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  Speaker 3: Other things that we will not mention. The movie that
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  Speaker 3: shall not be named.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and so that really, that really set Green Lantern
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  Speaker 1: back quite a long, you know, thing. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And, and, and it can get so out of hand
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  Speaker 2: in the wrong ways. And they really, they really did
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  Speaker 2: this well. So the scene with Sinestro, right. We, we
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  Speaker 2: find out that Noah is the one who broke him
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  Speaker 2: out and Noah broke him out because it was really
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  Speaker 2: the nature version of Noah, right? The, the, the part
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  Speaker 2: of Noah that is thinking of power and taking over
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  Speaker 2: the world. And he's like, Oh, it could be easy.
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  Speaker 2: I could go to Annapolis and be a football star.
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  Speaker 2: And I could, be in politics. And then from there
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  Speaker 2: I'm the president and all these things. And that side
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  Speaker 2: of him is like, I can also get a ring
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  Speaker 2: and have Sinestro make me a lantern. And then I
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  Speaker 2: can defend myself against the lanterns this way.
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  Speaker 3: And so he breaks.
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  Speaker 2: Sinestro out, has him, has Sinestro make him a lantern.
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  Speaker 2: Now Sinestro makes this lantern on Anton's planet, which obviously
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  Speaker 2: has been decimated, but Anton's planet is full of this fear, right?
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  Speaker 2: This like poison that Zoe had put into it. to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, of course, like create this chaotic event. And
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  Speaker 2: so this lantern has like these yellow streaks throughout it,
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  Speaker 2: these yellow cracks, if you will. So my question is,
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  Speaker 2: is this the yellow lantern thing you were talking about
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  Speaker 2: earlier on the podcast?
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  Speaker 3: Couple episodes ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it really felt like that this is what they
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  Speaker 1: were leaning into when they first introduced this this do-it-yourself
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  Speaker 1: uh lantern that sinestro had made it has these yellow
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  Speaker 1: streaks john even calls it out when uh sinestro asks
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  Speaker 1: tells him like tell me what you see like what
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  Speaker 1: do you think it is right um and he says
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  Speaker 1: i think it's fear and like this this feels like
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  Speaker 1: such a cool origin for this universe to to give
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  Speaker 1: birth to the yellow lanterns, which does not seem to
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  Speaker 1: be a thing yet, based on who Sinestro is at
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  Speaker 1: this current point in time, and based on what this prototype, perhaps,
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  Speaker 1: yellow lantern is. I was surprised when it turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be a green lantern at the end, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time, because as Sinestro said,
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  Speaker 1: fear is a more powerful weapon than you could possibly imagine.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it's possible it turns into a yellow lantern
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  Speaker 2: over time, as Jon uses it.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's Sinestro who has it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there will be more cracks in the lantern at
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  Speaker 1: some point that reveal more fear, right?
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's Sinestro that says this quote during
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  Speaker 2: the episode, correct me if I'm wrong, but he says,
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  Speaker 2: don't be afraid to be afraid.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to be afraid. I think it's actually
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  Speaker 1: Hal who says it. Hal says that.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it's such a great moment and a great quote, right?
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  Speaker 2: For someone like Jon Stewart, who is brought up to
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  Speaker 2: not be afraid at all, right? But now he's getting
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  Speaker 2: this new lantern from Sinestro that has some fear embedded
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  Speaker 2: into it, right?
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  Speaker 3: So you have to embrace that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like what I what I love about this, this
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  Speaker 1: is actually something you and I talked about in our
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  Speaker 1: I think it was our second episode of covering lanterns.
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  Speaker 1: And it was we were talking about John's story and
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  Speaker 1: how it is so rooted in in trying to be fearless, right?
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  Speaker 1: And the fear that came along with trying to be fearless.
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  Speaker 1: And what we brought up about that then was there's
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  Speaker 1: a very similar story about this already in Green Lanterns.
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  Speaker 1: And it's about Jessica Cruz, who's this other Green Lantern
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  Speaker 1: who is a very scared... She's the scared lantern. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's in her ability to find courage. Right.
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  Speaker 1: To overcome her fears that gives her power. Right. It's
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  Speaker 1: not being fearless, but being courageous. And you can't be
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  Speaker 1: courageous without facing your fears. And that's what that feels like.
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  Speaker 1: That's what John is leaning into right now. I embrace
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  Speaker 1: my fears. He's being courageous. He's being brave. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a power in that. So I really think that there's
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  Speaker 1: I really love the the nuance of that and the
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  Speaker 1: wording that they choose of embracing fear. And I love
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  Speaker 1: that that is kind of the climax of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not this big CGI fight that we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It's really just this exchange of ideas and
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  Speaker 1: beliefs and ways of characters moving forward. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: why I bring that up, Nick, and I really want
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  Speaker 1: to stress that is, you know, earlier in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about how not all superhero shows do this.
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  Speaker 1: And like, there are some really good superhero shows out
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  Speaker 1: there that I think weigh themselves down by forcing themselves
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  Speaker 1: to have this like big CGI fight climax that is
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  Speaker 1: not always necessary. And I cannot think of a better example.
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  Speaker 1: than wandavision uh i love wandavision i think wandavision is
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  Speaker 1: a damn near perfect show i loved every episode of
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  Speaker 1: it until the finale and i think if you love
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  Speaker 1: the finale like that's i love that for you what
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  Speaker 1: i don't like about.
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  Speaker 2: The point i like the finale but now that you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about i can see what you mean right because
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  Speaker 2: that that finale comes out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not what the show was it's not.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: What the show was yeah you're right it it basically
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  Speaker 2: like that but you know but.
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  Speaker 3: So let me explain. The thing about WandaVision though.
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  Speaker 2: Like it was suppressing, she was like suppressing her powers.
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  Speaker 2: She was also kind of having her powers suppressed throughout
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  Speaker 2: that whole show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 2: So like that finale is almost like the cathartic, like
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  Speaker 2: finally I realize what I've done and I'm free.
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  Speaker 3: And so it makes sense, I think, but I get
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  Speaker 3: what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: So like, let me fully explain the thought, right? So like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you're totally right about like, it's all out there now.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's just chaos, right? But I think you can
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  Speaker 1: still do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: With emotional drama and words, you know, like I think
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  Speaker 1: the idea of her losing her children at the end
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  Speaker 1: is enough of an emotional weight and crux for that
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  Speaker 1: episode to have a really good climax. I love the
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  Speaker 1: final conversation that she has with her kids. and the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: conversation she has with Vision at the end. It's really good,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: it's really well written. You know what I don't like?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: The Dragon Ball Z fight that happens with her and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Agatha that is just so unnecessary. The other fights that
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: are going on with the other characters, Vision versus Vision.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a lot. It's a lot. And
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that show did such a great job with mystery. OK,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: you ready for this? With mystery, with characters and emotional drama.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: What else? What other show did that really well without
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a Dragon Ball Z fight at the end? Lanterns. Dude,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying if that's what your whole show is
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: and then the fight comes out of nowhere at the end,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: it feels a little forced. And I'm not saying it's bad.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I personally think that that show could
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: have been a lot better without it. Yeah.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: And Lanterns obviously like crushed it. They did phenomenally. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, the stream, the numbers show it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Cause I saw a stat that I think the last episode,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: like rivaled Game of Thrones finale or some like viewership wise,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: like the viewership has been really strong and it honestly
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: deserves it. Cause the show's really well done. Speaking of
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: themes and fear and kind of like some callbacks, if
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: you will.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Hmm. what do you think about the scene with John
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: and Noah? Right.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: John gets back from Anton's planet. Noah is like, Noah's essentially.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Like ready for him. He kicks the crap out of the.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Crap out of them.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: But then he's like, can you drive? Can you drive
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: me to foot my football game, dad? And, but they
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: had this.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Conversation, right.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: About John and Zoe and Noah and his nature versus
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: nurture and what he is and what he wants. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Noah asked John, like, who he is and gives you
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: know they have this like really crazy heart to heart
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: and at the end of it all noah gives up
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the ring like john gave up the.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Ring oh yeah yeah good reflection there yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I just thought that that was really cool that the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: show did that right like this ring has been tossed
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: around at this point between characters.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And who is gonna who's gonna take it who is
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: going to.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Choose it right and at the end of the show
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of course john chooses the ring right it's not the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: other way around anymore and not at least not in
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: this case he is choosing the ring and he's.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Choosing which to your point which is goes back to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that conversation that they were having about nature versus nurture
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and john says you know i used to fight that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know where does my programming begin where do i
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: end right and and he mentions uh the fact that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: i can even ask that question shows that i am
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: me i am who i am beyond my programming right So, yeah, no,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you're so right for them to both have that moment
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: where he gives up the ring. He gives up the
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: idea of power and he chooses to just play football.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I just want to go play football with these with
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: these people that I like, these people that I love. Right.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: And this moment, I think, is really important for John
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to see Noah do, because even though Noah wants John
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to kill him, John's choosing not to. John is going
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: to do the opposite of what Hal did. John's going
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to actually give him a chance.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And, and he's going to get, he's going to give
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: him the opportunity to like, choose to like go against
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: his programming and be the human and be a human. Um,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: one question I have is with, when, when Hal and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Carrie are having the conversation on the bleachers and Hal
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: says like, Noah's planning something big. We don't know what
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that actually is. Or what did Hal just mean? Like, no,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Hal had seen some of, like Noah's planning for the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: nature side.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Which is like the world domination side.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Like, I think it's more so that, okay. Um, I,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I think he, I, a, he's shocked to find out
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that this kid is, is a man hunter. Right. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: he's already like on edge and on alert.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Um, but then he sees something that he didn't even
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: know was going, was possible. Right. His former mentor, who
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is a prisoner who's being forced to create a janky
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: do it yourself lantern. Right. Um, and, and, that this
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: is a grasp for not just power, but like ultimate power, right?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Like this kid will be unstoppable once he has this
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: ring and uses his charisma and other Manhunter attributes to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: work his way through the chains of power on Earth, right?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So like he's seeing the problem. he's seeing uh the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: path that noah's on and he's freaking out about it
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: at least that's what i took from it i don't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: know if it was anything more specific than that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: No i think i think that's right i just wanted
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to get your take on it too because i was
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: like are they leaving something kind of door open noah
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: wise but they i mean they are because anything can
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: happen with noah he has to continue to choose nurture
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: right he can't just It's not like he chooses it
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: once and it's fine. He's just he's going to have
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: this constant battle for a while until he gets to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the moment like John, where John is like officially not
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: thinking about his programming anymore. Right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hopefully Noah gets to a point where that's the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: case and John's going to give him that opportunity, which
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: is really.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you that I think is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a fun question. So you're right. The ratings for the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: show are pretty high. Um, and most of the people
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that I talk about this show really have loved it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I have loved this show. I've loved this. You and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I both like, since we both saw the first episode,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the end of episode one, we texted each other and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: we were like, whole crap. This is on a different level.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: This is really exciting.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: This is cool.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Um, there, there's a discourse online that I think is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: really interesting. And it's from a section of the green
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: lantern fandom. Right. Uh, and, uh, I think of the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: more polite criticism that is put out there, there's some
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: really mean criticism, but of the more polite criticism that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: is put out there from like hardcore Green Lantern fans
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: expressing disappointment about this show because in the comics, there's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: so much more about space exploration, about seeing other aliens,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: exploring the other emotional spectrum, right? There's this whole deep
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: lore of Green Lantern, right? that really does not get
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: explored in a tremendous way. And I wanted to bring
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that to your attention here, Nick. I know you've seen
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the comments. I know you know what I'm talking about,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to get your take on this because
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I think the show as a show is phenomenal. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: really do. A Green Lantern fan who's been a Green
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Lantern fan their entire life and after the Ryan Reynolds
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: debacle from years ago, you get a James Gunn and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: HBO funding. It's going to be a Sunday nine o'clock show.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: That's very exciting. and you get a true detective version
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of Green Lantern, what do you think about people's disappointment?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: At least in this section of the fandom. What's your
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: take on that?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, right? If you're a huge
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Lantern comic book fan, you want that story and those stories,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and you want the lore and the details that go
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: with that. But I also think you have to think
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: about where we are in the world with superhero fatigue.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and there's a reason that disney and martin the mcu
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: backed off from 10 movies a year to like three
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and from five shows to maybe one right and it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: too much was happening and there's a dc was in
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a horrible horrible place like not half of their movies
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: were horrendous most of them were not great maybe one
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: or two hit right and like That's not a good
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: place to start if you're James Gunn, right? You come
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: from super successful Guardians films in the MCU, and now
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you're in control of the DC Universe. You don't have
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the time or the runway to put out anything bad, right?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe you get one that's not good, right? I haven't
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: even seen Supergirl yet. I haven't heard great things, right?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe Supergirl's the one mulligan you get that's not great, right?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's okay. People were a little too harsh on it
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: when it came out.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's my take.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's probably fine. But you don't get.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He's not going to have runway to fail. And so
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: you have to do it right. And you also have
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to do it right for the world that we currently
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: live in.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And what do people want?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And when you're talking about lanterns, and you're talking about
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: what people already know about lanterns who maybe haven't read the.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Comics, it's unfortunately.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: that terrible Brian Reynolds movie that he still makes fun
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of as an MCU character in Deadpool.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So that's a problem.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: So you have to beat that. And how do you
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: beat that?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: You give people a show that is driven by characters
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and writing that is not overdone on CGI with crazy,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: powerful superhero battles, right? You get one big explosive one, right,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: in episode five, but it's really more about a small
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: town defending their small town. There's not really a lot
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of Green Lantern stuff there. So you have to do
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it this way, I think. Now, you can build up
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to what everyone wants to do.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think they're gonna. Yeah, I think they're going to.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Obviously, right?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, now we've got two lanterns. We've got one
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: for Earth or Dirt, and you've got one for the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: stars and Guy Gardner. And now you can play. You
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: can pick and choose, right? Like, where do you go
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: next in season two, right? You can go both places
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and you can.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Or if we're just going straight for a Green Lantern movie, man.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Or that. I mean, whatever. You can do it. You
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: can do it now. Right.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Because you kind of set it up and you've got
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: people invested in these characters and you can open it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: up from here. But you have to start somewhere to
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: bring everybody in. And I think they did it super well.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: So I think if you're a huge.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Comic book Green Lantern fan and you're like, I want more,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you're going to get more.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Because this show had insane viewership. Don't worry, it's not canceled.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get more.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Just got to be a little bit more patient.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I agree. I think you're absolutely right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I actually think you nailed it. You know, the only
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: other thing I would add is James Gunn clearly is
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: looking for DC projects that are coming across as very
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: creative and original ideas. I mean, like, look at what
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the next movie is coming out. It's Clayface. Like, we
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: have a horror movie comic book representing the DC universe
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: coming out next, you know? Yeah. Yeah, wild. But exciting.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a breath of fresh air. And Lantern's...
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: was that for me at least you know i can't
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: speak for everyone but like you know clearly this show
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: resonated with a healthy portion of the population um i
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: think that that mystery that intrigue and like the character
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: chemistry between hal and john what a great journey those
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: two got to go on you know it's gonna be
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at each other's throats to saying i love you like
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: yeah awesome.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be sad not to see him it would
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: be a nice surprise if somehow hologram ends up being
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: like stewart's sidekick.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Bro i was convinced Hal was coming back to life
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in this episode. I was like, it's 100% happening.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: There was a moment where I was like.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And it did not go there.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Sinestro mentioned they could bring Hal back to life, which
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: means he probably could still do that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. If Hal still exists, right? If the hologram
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: still exists.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: So.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, who knows? I don't think that's where they're
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: going to go. But there was a moment right where
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, maybe they are going to bring him back.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't, at least not yet.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I am too. It ended perfectly between the two of them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think the way that it ended, it
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: would be almost a shame if they did bring him
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: back maybe now because it kind of maybe knocks back
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the feeling on how it ended.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But I would only accept it in one way. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that's if somehow Sinestro has access to a hologram and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and revives him and Hal is a yellow lantern. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that's our big bad for John, right? John versus Hal again. Uh,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: but this time they both got rings. They're both going
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to have a round two. Um, that sounds awesome. I,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I doubt that's what we're doing, but like, man, I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: on board.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: If it is, that would be insane.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Um, see, that's the comic book nerd in me. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: want that. That sounds awesome. But the film version of
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: me loves this.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I love it. So, uh, We have to talk about
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the oath before we get there.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I think we'll probably end at the oath. Cameo. There
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: was an insane cameo.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And I was like, when I saw the cameo, I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: sat up like the Leonardo DiCaprio meme.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this guy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Did you get it?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: All right. So before the episode started, Nick asked me
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: if I saw anything in the football game. And I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, the colors of the uniform. And he
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: laughed at me. And so I'm assuming that this is
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: what you're referring to. It was not the uniforms.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So Carrie's talking about all the college scouts that are
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: at the game. And she goes, Nebraska, head coach of
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Nebraska is here. They cut to the head coach of Nebraska.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: The actual head coach of the Nebraska Cornhuskers, Matt Ruhle,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: is in the episode.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: They got, they got Matt rule to freaking do a cameo.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And not even that he is on the field after
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the game and hands Noah, the hat with the Nebraska
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: logo on it. And he puts the hat on and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he's like recruiting him live on this in the game.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Like after the game.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. That went right over my head. I had
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: no idea.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: That was cool. I was like, Holy shit. They got
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Matt rule to do this.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Shoot the show in Nebraska. Like it was easy for
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: him to come over. Like what are they doing?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Um, Yeah. Anything, anything football college football would have like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: flown right over my head. Uh, thank you for catching this.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: That was a cool cameo. I really appreciated that. Matt rules.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Awesome for doing that. That's like, I mean, it probably
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: helps him recruiting wise.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: That's just, it's just cool. Maybe he's a fan. Maybe
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: he's a lantern fan.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe whatever. That was an awesome cameo. So I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: really appreciated that detail.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Um, I just thought it was cool that the uniforms
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: were green and yellow. Yeah. I didn't realize that until
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this episode. I was like, Oh, look at that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: There you go. All right. John's oath. Do you have
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: anything else before we, before we end with this?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Let's, let's go to John's oath, man. The custom oath.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So at first I thought we weren't going to get
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the oath because they, they like, they showed him charging
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: up the ring and then they cut to him, like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: seeing his family and coming back home and all this stuff.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And then at the very end of the episode, they
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: come back. And cause like, you kind of knew he
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to, he couldn't do the same oath. He
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: had to create his own, right? He had to create
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: his own version because he's an independent contractor and he's
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: choosing the ring, not the other way around. He's not
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: part of the Lantern Corps, right? And they say this
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: at the end Yeah, that was really cool. Which is
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a really cool thing to think about. And so we
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: had to choose his own oath. And so we go
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: in his choices in brightest day and darkest night. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: embrace my fear. I'll do what's right. I choose this ring.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I choose this fight in service to this lantern's light.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Very cool. Yeah. And I mean, it goes right to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that lesson that he's learned of nature versus nurture. Right.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That this is who he is. This is who he
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: chooses to be. And he chooses this fight. Right. to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: be Earth's defender as Green Lantern. This is something he
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: actually wants, right? There was that fear from episode seven
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: where he sees his inner child and his inner child says,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you're too afraid to admit you didn't want to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the Green Lantern, right? You're scared about it. You can't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: say it. And he screams at him that that's not true.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was a little true. He was afraid to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: be afraid, right? Don't be afraid to be afraid.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't be afraid to be afraid. Awesome. What a show.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: If you haven't watched Lanterns yet and you just watched.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: This episode- What a way to experience it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: What a way to experience it. We apologize for the spoilers.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. You can still go back and watch
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: the show. It's awesome.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We didn't do it justice. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy. Any final thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: No, man. I am just really, really glad that Earl
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is okay.
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  Speaker 3: Earl is okay. And you know what we look forward to?
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  Speaker 3: We get to see... We haven't seen Jon Stewart in
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  Speaker 3: a suit yet. So, suit it up. So true.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked it didn't end that way. I was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: waiting for that moment. So.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of fun, right? That's something to look forward to.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what is his, you know, I mean, we have
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: an idea from comics what his suit's going to look like,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously they'll give it something.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be different.
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  Speaker 1: They'll give it something a little different. I mean, they
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: did with Guy Gardner. It was a little different.
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  Speaker 3: So that'll be cool.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And it'll be interesting to see the next time we
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: see Guy Gardner, if he takes John's advice and takes
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: out the gold tooth or not.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: It will be interesting. Wait for Man of Tomorrow for Superman.
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  Speaker 1: See if we get Guy Gardner in there.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: No gold tooth. Message received.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gold toothless.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Gold toothless. All right, friends, that's a review. Follow us
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• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Let us know in the comments what you think about
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Lanterns and our season finale review.
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  Speaker 3: And until next time, friends.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: May the review be with you. Peace.