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Roots of Corruption Explained | Altered Set Breakdown, Mechanics & Meta Impact · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Well, what's going on, everybody? I'm the one, the only,
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  Speaker 1: the w O O K. I E joined here by
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  Speaker 1: just one misfit. It's really the only misfit we need, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's how this goes. No, we need all of them,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: we need all the misfits. Okay, well, no, I disagree.
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  Speaker 1: We only need this your misfittiness.
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  Speaker 2: It's like saying you only need one power Ranger.
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  Speaker 1: You do only need one power Actually you only need two.
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  Speaker 1: You need the red and the Green later to be
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  Speaker 1: white power Ranger.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. I was gonna say why those cokes specifically,
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  Speaker 2: but now I see what you're going.
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  Speaker 1: Because they were the best. Every other power Ranger was
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  Speaker 1: absolutely useless besides for red and green and the green
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  Speaker 1: which turned into white. Alrightp hold on, let me grab
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  Speaker 1: my coffee, change my mind. Right, But we got tons
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  Speaker 1: to go over. We did go through a little few
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  Speaker 1: weeks of not being able to record. I guess it
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  Speaker 1: got cold down there in Texas and you guys don't
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  Speaker 1: handle the cold. Well, yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: A little a little too cold. Then the infrastructure was
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  Speaker 2: made for so you know.
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  Speaker 1: That gold's wild to me because you like you have
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  Speaker 1: twenty degrees out there, and I'm like, put a negative
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  Speaker 1: behind it, and that's what it is in Wisconsin right now.
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  Speaker 1: It is ice.
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  Speaker 2: When when you start getting record breaking cold, then you'll
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  Speaker 2: probably be it.
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  Speaker 1: We had record breaking cold. It was like negative forty
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  Speaker 1: five one day.
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  Speaker 2: Was that the coldest that I had ever been?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the record is, but like that's
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  Speaker 1: the coldest I could ever remember it being there.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually Wisconsin will also break if it starts getting.
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  Speaker 1: Colder cold for Wisconsin. Nope, I still had to go
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  Speaker 1: to work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've lived in Utah, so snow is one thing,
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  Speaker 2: but ice is a whole nother thing.
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  Speaker 1: We got we were within ten degrees of the of
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  Speaker 1: the coldest that has ever been recorded in Wisconsin. It
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  Speaker 1: was negative forty five. The the record for coldest in
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin ever was negative fifty five.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, when you get to negative sixty, then then
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  Speaker 2: we'll see if things start breaking.
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  Speaker 1: Well in terms of wind shell we've been in next
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  Speaker 1: of sixty before, which it was reported in Monominee Municipal
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  Speaker 1: Airport on January thirtieth, twenty nineteen. I remember that cold.
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  Speaker 1: I still went to work.
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  Speaker 2: It was brutal, unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys are like, oh no, what is
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  Speaker 1: this white powdery substance on the ground? We dare not
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  Speaker 1: to go outside?
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  Speaker 2: That is to be fair how some Texans respond.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like if you Texans touch it, you
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  Speaker 1: just turned to dust.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a Texan, so can't Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of are you? When you were like it's
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  Speaker 1: too cold to record, I was like, yeah, that's that
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  Speaker 1: Texan coming out.
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  Speaker 2: It's because my house can't handle it. It wasn't built
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we got some as Cole Robbie is saying, news, news, news, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so quick news.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Unfortunately. I mean I actually didn't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this at all during this episode because I wrote
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  Speaker 2: this episode, as you know, we said, over a week ago,
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  Speaker 2: and getting into what just happened today, I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, makes the episode length longer. But then I
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  Speaker 2: looked at what the original topic was and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: there's actually no way to talk about it without also
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  Speaker 2: talking about the news from today, because we were going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about all of the information that had come
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  Speaker 2: out around roots of corruption and kind of moving forward
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  Speaker 2: with you know, how the next game Found is going
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  Speaker 2: to be new products things like that, but just today
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  Speaker 2: it was announced that Seeds of Unity had a production delay,
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  Speaker 2: which if you've ever worked in any amount of industry
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  Speaker 2: that ships things or produces things, not super surprising for
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  Speaker 2: you know, January February. It's very common. Actually, I heard
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  Speaker 2: today as well that Magic or maybe not Magic, but
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  Speaker 2: Pokemon also has a delay of like their next set.
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  Speaker 2: So delay of Seeds of Unity also means that they
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  Speaker 2: are pushing roots of corruption a little bit. So Seeds
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  Speaker 2: of Unity for Europe and North America will start delivering
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  Speaker 2: to retailers on February twenty third, that was formerly February ninth.
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  Speaker 2: Rest of the world retailers will start March ninth, and
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  Speaker 2: then for backers Europe and North America starting March second,
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  Speaker 2: which was formulae form I can't say that word right now.
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  Speaker 2: Formerly yeah, I'm saying it like how I'm actually reading it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's messing it up. February sixteenth, Rest of worldbackers
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  Speaker 2: March sixteenth. On this, the rest of world is pretty interesting,
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  Speaker 2: but also shipping has been an absolute nightmare, like the
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  Speaker 2: last month or two, and it's just getting worse and worse.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if that has something to do
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  Speaker 2: with it, but because of the delay of Seeds Roots
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  Speaker 2: of Corruption will now be March twenty twenty sixth, March
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  Speaker 2: third for reveal season, March tenth for the campaign launch.
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  Speaker 2: March sixteenth is when the retailer pledge will close, March
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  Speaker 2: eighteenth they'll announce the retailer total, and then March twentieth
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  Speaker 2: will be the campaign end. So that is the campaign
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  Speaker 2: timeline as of now. So if when we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: the actual set and the previous article we mess any
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  Speaker 2: of that up, just know there's a new article about
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  Speaker 2: it and those are the dates, and there are some
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  Speaker 2: more interesting things around the delay in Seeds of Unity. Well,
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  Speaker 2: this episode is mainly supposed to be about Roots of Corruption,
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  Speaker 2: So what say you on that wikie?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just reading real quick because literally it came
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  Speaker 1: out today. I don't see anything in here that says
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  Speaker 1: like what is the like, what's the production delay? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what the delay is like, or why which caused it?
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  Speaker 1: But for those of you following along at home, because
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys like to say this doesn't happen
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  Speaker 1: in other games, just for a quarter one of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six, here are a few of your CCGs or
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  Speaker 1: slash TCGs that are have production era or production problems.
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  Speaker 1: Pokemon TCG has been having a production problem. Yu Gi
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  Speaker 1: y'all is having a production problem. Wiss Schwartz is having
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  Speaker 1: production problems, and you are correct, Magic the Gathering is
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  Speaker 1: also having production problems.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot that goes into the start
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  Speaker 2: of the year that makes it not surprising, which I know,
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  Speaker 2: like some people they don't care about or you know,
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  Speaker 2: they'll they'll still be upset or say this is the
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  Speaker 2: end of the world. But like there's Chinese New Year,
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  Speaker 2: there's the fact that nobody in like North America wants
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  Speaker 2: to work in December weather is really bad. And then
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  Speaker 2: the switch over from you know, quarter four into quarter
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  Speaker 2: one causes a lot of things. As for what caused it,
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  Speaker 2: as far as I know, it is production based and
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  Speaker 2: not and you know, not a decision by Equinox at all.
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  Speaker 2: But from what they have said, this being the first one,
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  Speaker 2: you know, changing up their production and working with new
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  Speaker 2: production partners, this should not you know, happen again at
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  Speaker 2: least in the in the until next year regard. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: until you know, February of next year, which is very
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  Speaker 2: likely because it's quarter one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the cold and people not wanting to show up
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  Speaker 1: to work is a definite real thing. And no matter
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  Speaker 1: what industry you work in. Again, I work in retail.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what happens when it gets cold, People go, my
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  Speaker 1: car won't start. I don't know how I will ever
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  Speaker 1: be able to get to work, not that we now
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  Speaker 1: live in it. You know, in nineteen ninety six that
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  Speaker 1: was probably fine, but you know it's twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: where we have things like Uber where you can definitely
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  Speaker 1: order an Uber. Now, the one thing I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you is they are ridiculously expensive. When it gets colder,
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  Speaker 1: is snowing. I had one employee come and tell me
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  Speaker 1: she lives right down the road and she's like, it
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  Speaker 1: was like fifty five dollars for her to get an Uber.
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  Speaker 1: Yesh or too.
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  Speaker 2: Got to make you got to make corporate foot the
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  Speaker 2: bill if they want people to go into work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've it is something I have offered.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell anybody that I wasn't. Like, hey, like,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't make it in for one reason or another,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna tell me like I don't got money
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  Speaker 1: for an Uber, which is legit, like, but tell me
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  Speaker 1: right like you just like just tell me. So they
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  Speaker 1: don't like that, so now they just go, oh uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick, so.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever whatever works.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that was just a little side note because I
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  Speaker 2: think we'll come back to this and things around seeds specifically.
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  Speaker 2: One actually like really good part of this is there
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: was originally a demo deck tournament scheduled for this Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't really realize it until this week. But
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  Speaker 2: that's also the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now that they are shifting things, the demo deck tournament
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  Speaker 2: will no longer be on the same day as the
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: super Bowl. So that's actually a very good thing for
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  Speaker 2: at least the United States, even if you know, most
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  Speaker 2: people don't care to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the Super Bowl unless you're from Boston
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  Speaker 1: or Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am once again in the seat of this year.
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  Speaker 2: I will just be watching it for the halftime show
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  Speaker 2: and then enjoying everyone and their brains melting because they'll
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: hear some Spanish here and there.
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  Speaker 1: I say, because Buddies performing. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually not a huge Green Day fan personally.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing the opening act, aren't they, Yeah, in the halftime,
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  Speaker 1: so so whatever. I am also not a huge Green
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  Speaker 1: Day fan. In fact, I by not a huge Green
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  Speaker 1: Day fan. I hate Green Day. I think they're garbage.
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  Speaker 1: That's me. If you like Green Day, good on you.
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  Speaker 1: My wife and children all love Green Day. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand the appeal. I understand their message, which you know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for their message just as much as anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: But I can't stand dudes whiny tone, So that just
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  Speaker 1: gets under my skin. So that's just that's that's me.
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  Speaker 1: That's maybe and it may not be you. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: like them. Shit, I spent my good, hard earned money
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  Speaker 1: last year to send my daughter and wife to go
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  Speaker 1: see Green Day.
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  Speaker 2: But so the joke's really on you.
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  Speaker 1: The joke's really on me, right, It's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where you know like it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, and that's okay. I don't have to go
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  Speaker 1: to it, and that's cool if they want to, that's fine.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Just how like you don't like sleep Token and I do?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I am.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm not. I'm not forcing you to go
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  Speaker 1: to any sleep Token concerts anytime anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully not, because I don't think I'll go.
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  Speaker 1: But if I was like, hey, I'm setting you and
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  Speaker 1: your wife to a sleep Token concert.
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  Speaker 2: You just be like, oh, my wife would also say,
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  Speaker 2: who the hell wants to go listen to sleep Token Man?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Well either way.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So, I think we'll circle back to more stuff
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  Speaker 2: around Seeds probably in our next episode. I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 2: we can time it just perfectly to where.
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  Speaker 1: Seats is old news bro time for Roots of Corruption.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cares what that old set.
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  Speaker 2: I think the next episode read record will be our
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  Speaker 2: Seeds of Unity spoiler.
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  Speaker 1: Spoilers like episode.
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  Speaker 2: Where we do our top five and whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: So, but as you said, h spoilers for Roots of Corruption?
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  Speaker 1: Did we or is it because are we not cool anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Do we drop off the charts?
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  Speaker 2: We We did not get one for Seeds of Unity
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: because Heroes Guide to Us Gartha stole them all, So
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: we should just talk about how greedy they are.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: What do you mean they stole them all?
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Well, you see, I Corrobbie got a card reveal and
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: it is out if you want to see it on YouTube,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: but Altered Corner themselves did not. However, somehow both Nick
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: and Chili have their own reveals, So I don't I
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: don't know bribes something, something's afoot.
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  Speaker 1: Mah card reveals are operated. We'll just beat them with
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: numbers and win every time. There, that's that's how you
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: do that. Take that hg A it is HGA right,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: heroes guy, Yeah, hga Yeah, it's like, what's the an acronym?
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  Speaker 1: But this set is shaping up to be what the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: wook he's been asking for. So I am incredibly excited,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: and it even has a new lyra hero with new
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: dice rolling mechanics. It's like, they listen, I swear, I
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: just I can't get over how like I say something
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and sometimes things appear, and you know, and everyone's gonna
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know sometimes just because you had
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the same idea as somebody else. It's like, no, it
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: can't be that big of a coincidence. It just shit happens
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: all the time to me.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm already hearing really good feedback to this set.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I've heard from a couple people who don't play anymore
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that are now very much enticed to come back to
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the game. For Roots of Corruption, I'll read the little
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  Speaker 2: teaser text here. It says, shadows loom over the WRECA capital,
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  Speaker 2: but even as corruption spreads through its streets, the city
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  Speaker 2: refuses to fall, Darker and more unsettling than previous sets.
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  Speaker 2: Roots of Corruption plunges you into an epic stand of
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  Speaker 2: resistance as nightmarish entities tear at the fabric of reality
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  Speaker 2: and descend upon the WRECA Civilization drive back the darkness
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  Speaker 2: and Roots of Corruption altered. Sixth and most ambitious yet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I just added that in there for
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  Speaker 1: all the doom, because it's fun to mess with them. No,
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  Speaker 1: you know you. I had watched the trailer that we
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: talked about this a couple weeks ago. Now, the trail,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, the trailer didn't get me hooked.
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  Speaker 1: But the art that they have released got me. Got
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: me Guy got me in, got me in there like swimwear.
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  Speaker 1: I really like the promotional package they put up here,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you know, with the booster box and the coluctor boosters.
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  Speaker 1: That that really got me hooked. The the the set name,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to call it font
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Like everything about this was done really well,
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  Speaker 1: just the the the the trailer just didn't get me
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  Speaker 1: that hyped. It just it still felt too cheery.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the the if you haven't seen it yourself, specifically
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the one. What he was talking about is like a teaser,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and so it's the kind of teaser where you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: when the next big Marvel movie is coming, they kind
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: of look back on the previous sets or movies and
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: then they just ever so slightly teased the next big thing.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like that. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was very subtle.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is very cool about the trailer is it
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: was voiced by members of the Masubi. Uh, not including
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  Speaker 2: me because I was very sick during the time when
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: they were doing that, unfortunately. But yeah, the the imagery
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and the setting and where the story is going and
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: some of the other things we'll talk about here in
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: a second are also ride up my alley as well.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: There was Yeah, so what I was gonna say is
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: altered has on the outside and cover you know, value
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: face value, same thing. Been very cheery, but there's always
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: kind of been like some sadness and darkness, like looming
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: below the surface. I mean, there's we've read the lore
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: for the Little match Girl, which is just.
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  Speaker 1: Haunting, darkest shit and I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, Podu, I don't know if people A lot
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: of people know this, but Podu is not even alive
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  Speaker 2: like Podu's dead. Uh So having a person that is
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: absolutely dead on a card is interesting. Sierra's story and
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: like a Sierra's story, Like they're full of sadness and darkness,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're like expressly facing an embodiment of of
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  Speaker 2: all that darkness with the with the corruption, which is
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: very cool.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: You already mentioned the new Lyra hero. I'm definitely super
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: stoked for the New years Mere hero as well.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I was going to get to that so we can
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: get into the heroes real quick since we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. One thing I noticed, and tell me
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Do these seem like crossover heroes? Does
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that crossover in? Okay, So let's go through Gretel and Rust.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Gretel and Russ is a Bravos hero keep up to
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  Speaker 1: three cards in your landmarks during night. It is the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: second hero that's allowing you to keep three landmarks. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: if you control a feet, create a Rust zero zero
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  Speaker 1: zero token in your companions in your Companion expedition, it
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  Speaker 1: is a companion with I gaate one burst per completed
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: feet in your landmarks, which obviously do they reveal any
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: feats here? I didn't think they did.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't have it in the article, but there
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: is one or two? Is it one or two in
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the game found Okay, there's one at least one or
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: two hiding within like the game found page itself.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Where you can kind of see it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're you can go see the preview of
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  Speaker 2: the game found campaign campaign page up.
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  Speaker 1: Now, well, let's let's look at Gretel and Russ. Gretel.
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  Speaker 1: Gretel is a Bravos hero, not a traditional Bravos hero.
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  Speaker 1: There's no fire, right, there's no fire to be seen anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing really linking her is she's a redhead,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess we'll see what that happens. But then Russ, like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: when I think of Rust, I think of things that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: are very like mechanical, right, which is typically towards axiom.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you do you know who Gretel is?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so when I hear Gretel, I can now
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I think of Hansol and Gretel.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is that is correct. And then at
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the same time, Gretel is specifically Bravos Pathfinder, grown up
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and more advanced. There's some speculation on like what the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: meaning behind this is, like have they always been Gretel
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: because in some of the lore, like they go by
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a different name. Are they like Awakening, you know, what's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: been within them? But there's actually a couple of like
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: hidden characters within Altered itself. Uh, it's not as lesser
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: known now as it once was. But I mean Ortis
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: attorney is specifically Goldilocks, and then there's other subtle references
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: like that. I mean, technically Elsa is in the game,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So the verdict is is still out
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: on what is going on with Bravos Pathfinder exactly.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Going to Young and Ember, right, so you can't exhaust
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it target character you control or targeting character you control,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the roll of dice. You may spend as many luck
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: counters to increase the results. On a four plus it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: activates its exibility. On a one through three, it gains
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a luck counter. But again, okay, so we don't have
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: very traditional Lyra character here. Maybe we do. The more
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I look at it, the more I see it. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: then we have Ember, which I would be like, oh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that should be a Bravos person, you know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there is some kind of something towards that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think we have character lore released at all. Well, yeah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess we'll have to find out. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: mean so in the game found page, they also have
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: have alt art for Gretel. Maybe maybe you are just
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: onto something that hasn't really been discovered or explored yet.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I can't imagine. I've looked at these
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: maybe a handful of times. I can't imagine nobody's like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: put these together, because then even then you got Sam
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and Spook. This is probably Sam herself is probably the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: most I guess mush together. You know, very much looks Yazmir,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: but then you kind of go into the hair with
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the very neon colors, the pinks, the purples, the blues,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the greens. Feels very lyra E. But then you look
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and she's got a I'm guessing that's a third eye.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it's sideways and her companion Spook
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I now, and I haven't quite figured it out yet,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: but again, that feels almost like the dragon. I am
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: drawing a blank. Help me out here, the Cura call
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: me or Lyra Hero her companion.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Oh blotch.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it feels very similar, except it's a it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a skeleton elephant.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of like the weird heffalumps and woozles
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like Nightmare Trip from Winnie the Pooh.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have a feeling if you all want to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: join me in this, she's going to be the most
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: busted hero of the three. So you can draw a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: card than discard a card from your hand by exhausting her.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You can activate this ability only if you are first player,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: when you have six or more cards in your discard pile.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: She permanently gains When you discard a card from your hand,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: return it to your reserve. Yeah, this won't be abused.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: It's used me. Of course it's going to be abused.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: That's what they love to do, right.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, she's busted guaranteed.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: First first first, uh first, uh errata right there.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I actually honestly have not heard anyone discussing it in
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: any of the discords, but maybe you are kind of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: onto something where so Beyond the Gates was, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: like these heroes setting out into the greater world for
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the first time in hundreds of years or whatever, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: then now we're discovering new civilis, civilizations that we've never
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: encountered in seeds of unity that's going to be the RecA.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: They're like Solar Punk people, as the game designers have said,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And maybe honestly with that comes you know, more kind
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of intern with the factions, and maybe we see heroes
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: start to take on more of a combined theming, you know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: instead of just a straight up like oh yeah, this
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: is absolutely through and through Bravos like Atsadi would be
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: or you know, Kojo very obviously flamey and whatnot.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: It just makes me wonder as we go progress through sets,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how. I feel like Alter's always
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: had a top down like design, right, like they have
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a story they want to tell and then they build
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: cards around it, as opposed to like building cards and
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: then having a story as we move on, because now
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: we were in a set six and maybe it's not now,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's not for a while, just depends on
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: how they want to tell their story. But now it
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: seems like almost like we have the RecA right, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: we've had cards that depict the RecA. If eventually we don't.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I mean obviously when we first thought, we're like, oh,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: this this is what it is, and there was there
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: was talks about oh, there's going to be others, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: other civilizations, and then we found the RecA, and it's like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: oh do we find like four others? And then it
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: becomes you know, the the you know and the as Garthans,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the w RecA is the you know Cde and all
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: those heroes. As opposed to being the ismir Lyra bravos it,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: they become turned into as Gartha, RecA, whatever's next, whatever's next, whatever,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of continuing that on into a much
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: larger world.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still one faction that we've never seen represented
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: in cards as far as I'm aware, which is the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Lost Tribe. So that is.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: How did you not get it right in the name?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Someone Someone needs to work on that and find them
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: because then maybe we'll get a seventh.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Faction one day. We do get to see some of
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the corruption cards too. They talk about corruption, stigmas and plagues.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So first one we see is corrupted as Morelda. Well,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll go over here and kind of go
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: through it. So two two zero three three, when played
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: from hand, gains fleeting unless an exibility was activated. This turn,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: when played from hand, you get to resupply, So very
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: similar to others Morelda, except now it's fleeting unless an
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: exibility was played. Stigma of Havoc, which is a six
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to five corruption, pretty dope art on this one five
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: five six. When played from hand, each player discards the reserve, resupplies,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: then reseal plies again. Both of these coming out of Lyra.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: That gave me an idea, but we can talk about
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that at another time, and then we gotta bravos the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Plague of Arrogance. This guy is dope. He is sitting
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: on what looks like a throne of like a city. Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: is the only way I can say it, Like it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like a throne of skyscraper. So he's a seven to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: seven character corruption four for three gigantic sacrifice a feet
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to choose one or sacrifice a completed feet to choose two,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: sabotage cen target character to reserve or gain two boost. Yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Are these are very cool? And I love seeing corrupted
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: as Merelda. Basically there's going to be old cards. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: mean there's another one that will talk about when we
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: go into the sticks and other things, but basically old
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: cards coming back. But corrupted and Esmerelda is is a
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: damn good one to show off first and looks I'm.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Just wondering, Well, it's not a worse, so it's technically
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit. It's better stat wise, right, because it's
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a three three instead of a two to two, or
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it's a zero three three instead of a zero two
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to two. Even our goats corrupted. Look at that. Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: with the crazies glowing eyes. I just don't okay when
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: played from hand, So you don't want to really play
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: her from hand. You want to player from but then
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you don't get the resupply well unless you do use.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: The support ability, which is very common in Lyra, whether
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: it be a discount or something. So yeah, they're I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: don't think it expressly says it in the article We're
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: going off of now, but one of the lines on
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the game found page is support abilities protect the inhabitants
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and assist your allies thanks to the support abilities of
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: your characters. So there's a Lyra Pfeiffer here. It's like
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: a floutist from anywhere. If a card in your expeditions
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: or your reserve has a discardability, I gain one boost.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So there's gonna be like more interactions around the support
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: abilities other than just what they are at face.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Value, all right, and then it says collect new Treasures,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: exclusive and thematic card treatments that capture the eerie beauty
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of the set are.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Coming to alter it for the first time. Hunt down
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: corrupted Evil Eye cards. That's all. These cards look really cool,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: shattered stigma and even frame breaking plagues. First when we
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: see I guess is going to be the Evil Eye,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: which is the Tooth Fairy. It's the Corrupted Tooth Fairy
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: two to two for a one two one played from hand,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it gains fleeting unless six or more cards are in
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: your discard pile, and then it's sabotages. So a little upgraded,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: upgraded Fairy. Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: So for you and whatever other crossover we might have
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: two the other podcasts, Uh, this is like a haunted
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you know style tech.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a haunted mechanic yep.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: How many cards you have discarded? Which is cool. But
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: these art treatments are amazing and I am so stoked. So,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, the Corrupted Tooth Fairy has the Evil
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Eye treatment, and then the art itself for the Corrupted
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Tooth Fairy is just awesome, evil looking tooth Fairy holding
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: this giant like tooth e rex size tooth uh, which,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: but then there is also what do they call it,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: shattered stigmas. Question is which one do you like more?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I like the the shattered stigma. If they if they,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're all gonna be like this
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: because the the example, it shows the stigma of cowardice.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: It is a character corruption four four for four four
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: four say that ten times fast tough one when played
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: from anywhere pass when an opponent passes, you may play
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a card paying its cost normally.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good point because this card has
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: like these shattered intersections in the art which size yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is bizarre and very cool.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So they might they might be different for other cards.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: You're I think you're right, because I says, as the
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: breach shatters reality, some stigma will give you a glimpse
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of what lurks on the other side in the realm
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: of nightmares.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Hmm, the realm of nightmares.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: That could be fun.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that's a place we're going to visit.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I like the realm of nightmares. And then we get
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the Awakened Plagues, which is this is a very full art,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit different alt art. I'm gonna call it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: an alt art. Yeah, it's alternate. So this is the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Plague of Arrogance again does the exact same thing, but
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the art is very much larger, very much different. This
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: guy's kind of got an eye of Sauron thing going
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in his sword where the other one did not, And
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just different. He's in a different pose,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: still sitting on top of the city, but instead of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the back being dark, it's now like light out, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: he's got his sword like across his back as opposed
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to just like in the ground next to him. Yeah,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so but same card. Still very cool. I'm gonna have
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to see more of these awakened plagues before I say anything,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: because it's it's a cool car, but it's no different
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: from them, Like I feel like the you know when
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you go from like common to like rare where that
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: art it's just a little different. So stick of a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Cowardice I like, better than the better than the Evil Eye.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: But again, is the Evil Eye treatment the same for everything?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Because this is very street arty, right is that the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: same for everyone? Where we're gonna kind of see that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: same style? I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I could see the one being different A lot more
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: depending on the card, but I would assume with the
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Evil Eye, really just the eye placements will be different
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: on the card. But yeah, I think I think by
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: far the shattered like treatment is going to be the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: coolest one and the one I'm most excited for for sure.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I would tell you definitely check out I'm trying to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: see because I see this landmark feat it's called the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Last Stand. Can't read a thing on it, not not
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: even a little bit. I tried. I tried zooming in.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: It is not not working out new cool kind of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a cool border. And then Baron, I can't even read
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: what it is named, Baron sim It's like C I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: M E T I E R E.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the unique that could come in the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: starter deck. Yeah, Baron submit or something.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So obviously the three mechanics we're looking at feats, supportabilities,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and discard. Just no, I've been around, I've been around
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: card games long enough. Whenever you have an ability that
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: likes to play with discard and playing with the discard pile,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it tends to be overpowered. So get all your lyra
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in a pile, because you're gonna be building, You're gonna
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: be building decks with it. Yeah, let's uh, we got
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of other cards in here that we can see.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I just scrolled past it, did I Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: If you if you switch over to the actual we got.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: The plague of prejudice. Uh. This guy is pretty dope
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: five to two for a two to two two when
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: played from anywhere, it gets anchored when played from hand
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: cent to reserve each other character with forest lower than
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: are equal to mine. Don't you have like a green
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: weenie deck? I don't know what else to call it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I almost called it a white deck, but like nothing
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: but small like creatures are small characters.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if any deck in Muna you can
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: call a weenie deck right now?
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Well, well o, their base stats are small, but they
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: get bigger.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made like a two manna only Muna deck
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and things like that. This card specifically, it seems to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: be very good for like Cowie because you're sending a
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: lot of woolybacks to the other side. But then you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: put this out and you just erase all that advantage
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you give your opponent. So that is who I see
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this card for currently, But I'm sure people will find
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: other ways to make it great.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: We can also see the close the breach. It is
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: a three to three landmark permanent feet. Just play me
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: in your landmarks. I can't gain fleeting. Complete me to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: permanently unlock my feet when played from hand. Discard target
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: character with base costs three or less when you pass
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: after your opponents. If you are first player, complete me.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Once completed, you can exhaust it and pay one. Target
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: character you control gains one boost than after you. That
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: seems pretty good and like extraordinarily too easy to complete
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: for that power. I told you to get you together.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no this, Yeah, yaz Mare's back.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank goodness. Going into heroes, the two they
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: show are the Gretel and Gretel and Rust, which you
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: could see in our if you're in a live show,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you could see in our live chat. And then we
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: got Assiri and Pebble, who are getting a full art,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: no text, serialized treatment.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see belly button.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You can see belly button. I would not have noticed
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that if you didn't say something.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Listen, it's Siza hotty. What can I say?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And then so looking at this also for all
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: of you who are looking for your copy of the Hunger,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you can get one as a box topper and you's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: just play.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yep, this preview pace WHI is really good. It's really
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: good to have it up now. Of course there's some
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: things that are locked, but it kind of already lays
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that out and tells you you know what's going to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be unlocked. One of a couple of the things that
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I wanted to note specifically about the game found is
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: they've updated the structure based specifically off of how the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: last one went. So it already mentions stretch goals. There's
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: no like will they won't they about stretch goals?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: They will?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: They already, yeah, they will. They already mentioned community votes
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: kind of like last time how they put out a
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: vote like what do you want this stretch goal to be?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: And then whatever one was, what it was. And I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: think the structure of the whole campaign preview is better
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: than it was for Seeds of Unity. And then there's
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: a lot more clarification. The one thing that everyone keeps
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: like bringing up, like if I had a dollar for
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the amount of times someone mentioned it to me on
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: multiple different platforms, I would not be looking for a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: new job. Is the whole two point five million. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: think that for now, we just need to remove that
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: from our minds because in my eyes, it is entirely
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: possible that is not a thing for the next set. Now,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that's not saying that there won't be like a goal
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: that they want to hit, sure, but I don't think
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it will be that much, And of course I could
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: be very wrong, but there's no reason to keep hitting
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: on that until we actually know what the goal is
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and going, wow.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's a good reason to keep hitting on that,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: like because we didn't know about it beforehand. They're like, yeah, whatever,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like there's no goal, Like this is a pre order system, right,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: looking to do pre orders, and then it's like, shit,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: if we don't have two point five million guys, we're uh,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: we're done, and that you know. So it was kind
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of one of those things where it was it was
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: hidden behind a curtain, right, and then somebody unleashed the curtain.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: We don't know who that is. Somebody something tells me
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: someone knows who that is, but we don't know who
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: that is, and then you know it is. You know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you know, it's like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it's always it's now always going to be in the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: back of every backer's minds of like, okay, so even
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: if I back this, like am I guaranteed this next set?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Where where am I at? Because it just it creates doubt? Right.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So I mean if if if they do have a goal,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I think it would behoove them to be like, hey,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this is our legitimate goal. Now I don't know. Again,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it's not the campaign's not open yet, so we don't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: really honestly know what they set it to. But if
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you do have a goal, I think it would behoove
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you to be upfront and honest with your player base.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Now that's a double edged sword because a lot of
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: people go, well, someone else will do it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it's like the same thing with U print on demand. Yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: somebody I'll get there when it's closer, right, So it
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: is a double edged sword. So I can understand they're
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: not wanting to, but I do think there needs to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: be some level of transparency there where it's like you
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: obviously did have a goal fifty thousand, wasn't it, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it was something different.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think to my point is that
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: is entirely valid, but I believe will be getting the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: actual number ahead of time this time, based on how
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: they've laid out their campaign structure and the fact that
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: they've already built into the timeline that they're going to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: announce the retailer total before the campaign ends. So that's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: why I'm like, don't keep saying two point five million
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: until that's actually the number, and then we'll work on it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I can't. What else would it be. I mean, if
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: it was two point five million last set.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: What about two point two million?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I can't imagine, like they didn't change
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: anything to like make me feel like the nub, you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they haven't. The announced changes haven't made me feel like
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: there's anything different that they're doing this time that they
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: did last time. So I'm kind of like, ah that
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it just seems like everything stayed status quo, So why
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: would it be any different.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, there have been like cuts and things like
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: that for cost to say measures, So we'll see. We'll
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: see how much you know, space and room they were
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: able to make up, and I guess we'll see what
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the campaign number is when we get there.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's go over a few more cards.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I don't was this a thing last time? Maybe it
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: was with the uniques coming in every starter deck now
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: at least one, Yeah, I would when it popped out.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Seeds of Unity decks all have
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: all the start yeah, the starter decks, but I think
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the process is different for Seeds of Unity. I think
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: in Seeds of Unity it might be to where it's
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: like only one specific character or something, unless that changed
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: in production. But from what I've heard for Roots of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Corruption is they've taken that feedback and it should be
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: a little different in the uniques that are in Roots
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: of Corruption starter decks. But I don't know expressly how yet.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Because I'm not sure why they continue. So, I mean,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: it's a very big focus on young Gie and Sam
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: at least they feel just with with I don't know
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: if that's they just had better rendered art for them
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: or what it was. But you continue to see them Sam,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: we see playing with a voodoo doll. I think earlier
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: in in the scroll downs, you don't see much. You
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: don't see much of Gretel, but you see a lot
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: of Sam and a lot of Young Gi. I don't
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: know why, it's just it's.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Kind those should be the only two starter decks is
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: just those two heroes.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, Gretel's not getting a starter deck.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so. In Roots of Corruption,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I think they do two heroes per set. So Seeds
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of Unity is Tarun and Mats, and then this one
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: is Young Young Gee.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And Sam Sam. But they do show off a couple
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: of uniques. One is Mia Prima Ballerina. She's a three
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: three for four two two. Played from hand, you can
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: activate her exibility. Each character you control other than me
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: is tough one. Her exibility is you may target a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: character other than me with base costs three or less.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It gains anchored. And then there there's what I was
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: looking for. Baron. Wow, that is a name Cimetary. Yes,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Oh is it supposed to be like Cemetery Cemetary. He's
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: a three to two for three four three. I think
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: that's a hand. It's very blurry when played from hand
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: if there are six or more cards in your discard
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: piles sabotage. Yeah, so I.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Guess Baron Cemethier is actually the same as Baron Samedi
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: is what we would more like mess.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And then for all of you wondering, there's going to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: be a plush corrupted williback this this game found? I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: might have just made that up.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, are you making things up?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I might have just made that up because I scrolled down.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I see optional add ons and there's this like three
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: isn't a three headed wooly back? Maybe there's more? And
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I see a bunch of eyes. I might have made
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that up. But cool art, sweetheart, very very cool.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Then that would be cool just to get a corrupted
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: wooly that has like three heads. That'd be pretty dope.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And that's about all they say. They do go into,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: obviously some more things. You know that that part is
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: for optional add ons, and then they have a section
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: for accessories with some sort of battle owl again bird
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: tribal please. I don't know how I would make that work,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: but if we can make this happen stretch goals which
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: are already in here, with a cat of some sort,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think that's fire cat, but a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: cat of some sort. I'm gonna guess this guy is
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: artists because he's in blue, but he's riding a goose
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: some sort of messenger.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ortist mailer or something something.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: But for retailers and board game cafes. Okay, create a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: pro account, and then there's an organized play section as well,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: with Gretel on it leading some sort of revolution of
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: some sort to fight the corruption. I want to know
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: what this is when you keep scrolling down, says play
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Out Altered Online for free on board game Arena, which
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: looks like a bunch of corrupted pig construction workers being
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: blown away by a wolf. True, whatever that is. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: would like this card looks.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Like the wolf broke out. It's like got broken chains
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And then it's just more of the same. You can
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: where you can follow them, YadA, YadA YadA.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: So yep, that is that is the preview of Roots
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: of Corruption. I do agree as much as I am
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: excited for Seeds of Unity, and there's been some very
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: cool cards which we will likely talk about soon. Roots
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: of Corruption is is my kind of shit, and it is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That Telly man, that's that's old news. Don't even worry
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: about it. Don't even sleave them right, that's all.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I'm already paid for. We don't have to worry about.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: It, which is so crazy to think about that. It's
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like I was just talking with somebody the other day
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: because they had the same complaint with Magic. It was like,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: we I can't even be excited for the set that
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I'm playing because I'm already being pitched the next set.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: And you hear this kind of even across the internet,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: which it's like, yeah, that's just kind of the day
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and age we're in now, like be excited for what's upcoming,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: not what's in your hand, Like it's what it is.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's tough. I get it, because you want You're
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like yeah, but it's like, yeah, man, you don't even
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: have you don't even have the last set, you've already bought,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and you're you're you're being prepped for the next set
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to buy.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And in a lot of cases, even for games
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: that don't do game found it's not that different.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: No, Magic's doing the same stuff because like literally like
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: they just had a set and then it's like, well,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but you know this next set's coming out next.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Week and order or you won't get it right.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: The only thing you have kind of have better off
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: than Magic is literally as soon as they release the set, yes,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: next week, another set is coming out. At least you're
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: getting a few months in between here with with Altered Yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not imagine doing that. Even Pokemon
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: seems to be really fast. I don't know. Maybe it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: just again, maybe it's just me. I don't know, but
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it just seems like, yes, that's their coming out quick.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, quick quick quick. Speaking of quick, uh,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: do you want some updates real quick of the first
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: finals that we had a couple days ago?
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Hit it?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: So we just finished the winter season finals and I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: just have a quick update here on four new players
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that are qualified for Worlds six, which will be at
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: some time in quarter four end of the year. Who
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: won the event was Sparky on Coojo, Second was moondust
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: On Traced, third was Pavanya on Kojo, and fourth was
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: tempet On Traced, which, if you just hear that and
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you take just that at face value, sounds pretty awful
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: for the meta, right is.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: It twenty twenty five again?
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: But it was actually a very cool event. And I
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: put a note down here zero suit Samus actually took
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Rin into the top sixteen and Yikes took Novenka into
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: top sixteen, and then Zoa took lind Away into the
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: top eight. So wow, what is going on? Yeah, So
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: it was It was a very cool tournament. The top
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: cut was very cool. Day one was Swiss, about two
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: hundred players, and then it cut to top thirty two.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: So while the top four was split between Kojo and Traste,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the Top thirty two was very interesting. It was a
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: lot of fun to watch. I had the pleasure of
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: helping cast at Saudi mirror in like the first part
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: of Top thirty two, I think, and it was just
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: insane because neither at Saudi had like removal, so they
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: were just throwing out huge things back and forth. It
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: was it was fun.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Some of those names you're not accustomed to hearing like anymore. Yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Triste and who's the other one? Your name? I can't
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: remember now, Rin, Novenka and Novenka. It's kind of been
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: here and there.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a couple good performers on Novenka whenever
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: there's a big event.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: But writ and traced.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Trace is one of the higher performing ones. I think
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: you mean Rin and Lindue.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Linda Way, but you don't hear Trace too often.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I think it is somewhat of a surprise if you
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: go off of the last couple of weeks, because it's
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: kind of been Kojo, Bassira, Sigismar for the most of it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: But all of the Sigismars were defeated.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: So that's what I expected you to say, is all
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: those names, and you said none of them.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we defeated fascists. Finally, SIGI was nowhere in
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: the top four, and congrats to those players that qualified.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Right now, you can start qualifying for the spring season finals,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: whether you have a store that hosts a qualifying event
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: where you play in a BGA tournament that has sixty
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: four or more players, and then we'll see you in
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: the spring finals and see what the meta is like there.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Alrighty, what do we got left to go over here?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Not a ton? Real quick? Make sure we got a
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Patreon question this week.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: We technically do from YouTube again.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, go for it. What is it?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: All right? Question for the team? Which Seeds of Unity
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: card are you most excited about? And why? Which one
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: do you think is too strong and potentially harmful to
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: the game? If any from dav Kenny, have you really
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: looked at any Seeds cards yet?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Lookie, I have. I don't know if I've seen anything crazy. Yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure someone will figure out ways to bust a
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: couple of them.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I think for me right now, the card that looks.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Too strong is the Artis Exalt, and then Recca Tradesman
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: is probably one of one of.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: The We did look at a few a few of
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the exults and thought maybe some of them would be
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: busted in one way or another. Yeah, trying to remember
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it feels like forever ago now because we didn't really
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we haven't talked in so long.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll we'll have our like top five and
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: our arguments and whatnot next episode for all of the
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: all of the Seeds cards.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I just like, now I've got roots of corruption on
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the brain, and I'm just like Sam gonna erase it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Stuck with me, like, I'm just like, man that that
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: card is going to be busted in one I don't
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: know how, but someone will figure out how that card
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: is just absolutely you know how that hero is like
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the new like problem. Yep.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: And after this episode will erase it all from our
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: minds and then either this.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Friday, probably not because then I'll be like, doesn't matter
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Seeds and words scruption.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, RecA Tradesman is my favorite Seeds of Unity
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: cards so far. You should go to YouTube and type
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: in uh Seeds of Unity moona reveal or something like that.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And other than that, we'll have a top five coming
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: hopefully after.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Either Friday or Sunday. I'll try to get this out
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: as fast as I can.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Do.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Go back to work tomorrow, so boo yeah. Other than that,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that's all we got for this week. Uh check out
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: ultra corner dot com for all your event needs if
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you need a schedule, because I think that's where you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: should go so we don't have to talk about them
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: every week. You can just there's other there's a place
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: where you can go find them for yourself. So I'm
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: just watching this video of these mountain goats. Somebody had
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: just I don't know if this is AI or somebody
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: really attached a GoPro to one of these mountain goats.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: This ship's wild. Ever you've seen this video, I'll send
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: it to you. These goats like running across these mountains.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: It's it's nuts. It has to be AI.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Do they look corrupted?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: They don't look corrupted. No twisty horns, but like man,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: just they're they're just they're I don't know how their
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: bodies could take all this force. Like they're just running
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: across these sheer cliffs and just following for what feels
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: like just meters and meters and like they just land
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: on their feet. It's not a big deal, and it's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: just like, there's no way that's real, and it could be.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, nature, nature is amazing, but Jesus just e
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: gives me. I am having anxiety just watching it and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not even there. I couldn't only imagine. I don't know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: but that's gonna do it first this week. Thank you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: to everybody. I see some new faces in the chat.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening. Hopefully we'll be
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: back either like Friday or Saturday again with the live
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: get a little back on track here now that the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: weather is not gross outside, and we shall see you
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all next week
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Later he