Latest / Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter / Chrissy Teigen slammed for post about eyebrow transplants – she responds! Tori Spelling’s husband absent from family Christmas card photo. Caitlyn Jenner talks Ellen DeGeneres feud, even wanting Kris to ban Kardashians from Ellen’s talk show.

Transcript

Chrissy Teigen slammed for post about eyebrow transplants – she responds! Tori Spelling’s husband absent from family Christmas card photo. Caitlyn Jenner talks Ellen DeGeneres feud, even wanting Kris to ban Kardashians from Ellen’s talk show. · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Advice shot show I'm Your Heads Job Shooting. It is Wednesday,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: which means dear friend Donnie meet chum from Okay Magazine
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: dot com is joining us. Donnie, I'm giggling and you've
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: not even so it is Winds Day. I'm super excited
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: to be and I couldn't, honestly cannot let this moment
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: go by. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving and so I have to
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: say a I am very thankful for you Rob shooting,
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: but also thankful for the Natis for embracing us and
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: enjoying this little silly show that we do. I know,
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: my no, it's just talked to Lauren. Lauren filled in
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: on Monday. Garrett's off this week for Thanksgiving, and Lauren
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: is so excited to be part of this. We all
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: are excited to be part of this little community that
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: we have creative. But I don't look at the charts
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: now every ten minutes. Are used to and I started. However,
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: Lauren does so all day long. She's been tracking the
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: podcast charts and apparently we're doing very well around the world.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: We we we chart in France and and London and
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: all over the place. So Lauren, thank you for making
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: me feel really special today and Thanksgiving. I'm grateful for you,
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Donnie and the noughties to Hey, let's jump into the
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: show because we've got so much gossip to get to.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? Cheeta. Chrissy Teagan is
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: once again facing back lash. So this time she's coming
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: under fire for posting about her eyebrow transplants. Now, last year,
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Chrissy was criticized herself for cyber bullying other celebrities, and
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: now some people think she's getting bullied. To let me explain, So,
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Chrissie took to her Instagram stories to reveal that she's
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: had her eyebrows transplanted. She underwent a procedure to her
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: severely damaged eyebrows that she said was caused by overplucking them.
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: She posted before and after photos and told her viewers
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: not to overdo it when it comes to grooming their brows. However,
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots of fans took issue with that.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: One person tweeted, people need life saving transplants and you're
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: out of reality talking about your eyebrowers. Yea for you.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: Another person wrote, who gives a damn? Or all these
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: people are suffering and trying to pay their bills. They
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: have real problems. Another tweet said, I don't have eyebrows,
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: I have a thyroid disease. I don't care. The real
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: problem is Chrissy Teagan, who needs to disappear now. Chrissie
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: is addressing the backlash, sharing a screenshot of a new
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: story where she's being criticized, and she wrote the following quotes,
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: why are people so effing riled up that every little
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: thing I do? She concluded by saying, You're going to
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: give yourselves a heart attack. What do you think about
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: all this? Well, I think poor Chrissy Tigen. And I
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: thought I would never say poor Chrissy Teagan because she
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: has known to be a little bit of a monster
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: in the past and say really terrible things about people U.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: But I think after this whole bullying scandal came out,
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: I just think she can't win. Anything she does now
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: is going to be scrutinized. She could literally smile on
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: an Its game and people be like, why you smile
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: the sweetie? There's people tying around the world, and it's like, well,
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: I could live my life too, just like other people.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: So I think she's more of a she's damned as
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: she does, damn as she doesn't. I do get you,
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: but I think wouldce you have been exposed, Let's say,
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: like Chrissy has, shouldn't you tread a little bit more carefully?
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: Like I know, if I po about cosmetic surgery, which
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: is what eyebrow transplants really are, if I post about that,
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: I would put a little disclaimer in saying, I know
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: this doesn't really matter big picture, but it does to me.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: I know there's people out there who really need life
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: saving transplants. Obviously, this is a very long caption, but
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: I think you can sort of say I know this
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous, but it matters to me, Or I know
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: this is shallow, but it manags to me. Chrissy doesn't
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: do that. Chrissie jumps right in and sort of never
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: learns a lesson, And there are lessons to be learned
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: in life. I know myself though, when I only talk
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: about rob shooting, which I've been known to do other
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: people occasionally, Yes, don't you dare look so surprised? Other
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: people don't like that, And so now I make fun
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: of what a narcissist I can be. Chrissie, I think
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: there's a way to do both here. I don't think
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: you have to disappear from social media and never ever
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: speak again. But at the same time, anything you say,
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: like Ilaria Baldwin and dare I even say Megan Markola,
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: people are gonna look at and really think about. It's
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: like Laurie Laughlin. She has to be careful now. So
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: I think now Chrissy can't just be a regular person.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: She has to be extra extra careful. Does that make
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: any sense. I'm not saying it's fair, but I'm saying,
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: you know, when you mess up Donnie, when you upset me,
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: the next day, you know you've got to tread a
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: little light. You know, when I upset you, I gotta
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: be a little careful the next time I phone you,
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: I'm extra kind. So Chrissy, just think of yourself at
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: the moment in the dog house. You're in a little
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: bit of trouble, and you're gonna be for a couple
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: of months. The rest of your career. She's going to
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: be at the dark house. She could she could be.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: It's never going to go away what she did. So
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying she needs to disappear, but I don't
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: know if this post really helps her as somebody with
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: great eyebrows. To yourself, Donnie, you seem to be defending
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: chriszy manner natural though, so I will don't have to
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: defend No. I agree she's but Rob. We can be narcissists,
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: but we're likable narcissists, and I think that is truly
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: the difference. So Chrissy become a likable narcissist, become a
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: l There you go. Dr Donnie has given all the
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: advice we need today, but we do need to find
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: out what you think. So we'll go to a pole
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: of the day. Chrissy Teagan is getting slammed for a
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: post she made about her eyebrow transplants. Is Chrissie being clueless?
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: Or is Chrissie being bullied? Oh? I can't wait to
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: see your answer. Go Bowes on a Twitter page at
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: Naughty Nice Rob. Facebook page is Naughty Gossip. You can
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: leave a comment there and is sewer to check back tomorrow.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: Here your results, Donnie Darling, what are you working on?
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: The well? Speaking of could be construed as a little
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: bit of NATS assist Here Lori Laughlin's daughters defending their
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: mom after the college scandal. So actually Olivia and Bella
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: they've been semi quiet it regarding the stand hope, but
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: now one was on Dancing with the Stars, we should
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: point out on national television, so not too quiet, but
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: now they're actually speaking out and kind of really confronting
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: it head on. On Olivia's podcast, she sat down with
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: her sister and she was reflecting on the thanky thing
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: with our family college emission scandal. Let's call it. It's
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: not a thingy thing, it's it's a giant thing. That's
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: their term notes thinky thing, it's a massive calm. Well
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: then they kind of spoke out and more Bella did
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: on how the media coverage was more centered around Laurie
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: than it was their dad moths mode, which I will
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: say was true. Laurie did get the stick it, but
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: Laurie's famous. It's famous. That's why it's on Laurie. I
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: don't think this is the sexist thing. If it was
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: George Clooney, Wellaman is pretty famous too, But if it
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: was a male celebrity who was married to somebody, we
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: didn't know it would be focused on them. So then
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: Bella goes on she's telling her sister, I think just
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: the hardest part of this entire thing was watching how
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: horrible or reading or seeing how horrible the media was
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: to both you speaking of Olivia and to Laurie and
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: actually knowing you guys, and knowing Mom has the biggest heart.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: She think goes on to say how she had people
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: have never said anything negative about Lorie Laughlin and how
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: she was probably the nicest one in the full house set.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: I agree, nice people do bad things. It doesn't make
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: mean people do things. I mean people can do good things.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: Nice people can do bad things, But it doesn't help
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: when you say they were nice to me, when you've
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: got that horrible friend. You know the truth. And we also,
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it they were nice to me. I'm
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: very aware of people that I'm friendly with. Some of
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: them are not the best people. And I'm friendly with
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people because of my work circumstances, because
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: of the business. I'm in the gossip business. I know
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: some really shady people, but I don't have anyone in
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: my inner circle that is a really bad person. But
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: some people we know do, Donnie, and they defend their
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: racist friends. They do friend their friends that have said
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: terrible things. I think here this isn't helping Laurie Laughlin
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: like I would guess mother would be girls just Laylor
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: like zip, it's not help. No, but I will say
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: that de reiterate. The fact is just because she did
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: something better, it doesn't make her a bad person. It
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: just makes her Maybe her morals are a little skewed. Right, Well,
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: she did something awful, she paid the price. I believe
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: in second chances. But I don't think her daughter's on
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: a podcast saying their mom everybody loves my mom. It's
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: like people saying, you know, I've got a lot of
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: black friends, Like no, you can't. Just because someone's nice
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: to you, narcissist, doesn't mean they can't be terrible to
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: other people. Not helping, not helping, not helping. Moving along,
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Prince Harry and Prince William, their legendary rift is now
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: getting slammed by the royal family, which is sort of
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: ridiculous because we know they don't get a longer. So
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: there's a new one BBC documentary out and it points
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: out that the princes are no longer close, while the
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Palace is pushing back saying that is overblown and it's
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: an unfounded claim. So it's a new documseries called The
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Princes and the Press and actually focuses once again on
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: their relationship with the media. People always like to blame
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: the media, don't they. So the goal of the documentary,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: according to the BBC, was to explore whether negative stories
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: about the Royals were based on information from people connected
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: to the royals. Namely, did it come from royal households?
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Were the royal spreading rumors on the Royals? Were Harry's
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: people saying mean things about Williams? Were Williams people saying
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: mean things about Harry? The Royal family do not like
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: this at all, so they issued a statement saying, quote,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: a free, you responsible and open press is vital for
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: a healthy democracy. However, wouldn't you say, however, it needs
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: everything you've just said we don't agree with. So However,
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: too often it is overblown and unfounded claims from unnamed
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: sources that are presented as facts, and it's disappointing when anyone,
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: including the BBC, gives them credibility. Donnie, We've worked in
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: the celebrity, the gossip the rumor business for a very
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: long time. You know when an unnamed source is reliable,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: and you know when they are not. My unnamed sources
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: have the receipts. They didn't meet the person once at Starbucks,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: they didn't stand next to them in a line at
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: the supermarket. They know them. They're inner circle. Were very,
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: very careful about our sources, and so I do understand
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: that people will tell you stuff off the record that
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: they won't tell you on the record, and that's just
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: part of life. Would I love all my sources to
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: be on the record, Yes, but if they were, they'd
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: never give me another story again because they'd be kicked
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: out of the house. The Palace doesn't have a good
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: track record when it comes to Mega Marco has receipts
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: for everything that she alleges. They said about them too,
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: so it's like receipts for years, they said Charles and
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Diana Ara I know never When it was first reported
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: that Diana suffered with Bolima, the unnamed source, now we
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: know was Diana. Well, it doesn't get any better than that,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: she's the unnamed source. The Palace issued a statement not true,
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: not true, lies, lies, lies, So be careful. I get it.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: I know it's easy to beat up the press, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: as a member of the press, I hope I'm not
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: just defending my gang. But I've found that more often
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: than not, most reporters are really honorable. Yes, they try
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to get to the truth, they really do. We work
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: so hard to get the story right. I don't want
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: to put out a story that's not right. Yes, we've
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: all made mistakes with all trusted sources. We shouldn't. It's
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: a very complicated job here. I don't think I don't
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: think any of us can argue with a straight face
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: that there's not a rift between these two boys. Hey, Donnie,
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Tori Spelling? Speaking of a rift?
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: There are rumors been circling for months now that Tory
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Spelling and her husband Dean McDermott, that their marriage is
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: basically circling the drain. And then she didn't make it
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: any easier, which she released this year's Christmas photo seriously
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: absent deep McDermott, he's God not on the Christmas photo.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: And then she comes out and she tries to defend it,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: saying he was working, Sweetie, reschedule the photo shoot. The
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: yah's a photo shop. You know him, your husband? Call him?
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: What take you available for the photo? Use a picture
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: where you're all to get next them. It doesn't have
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: to be a picture taken today. Use a picture from
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: the summer. I don't care. I know this is because
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: she does not make it easier on herself. I think
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: she enjoys it, Donnie, I think she's encouraging it. You know,
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: if you ask Tory, how's your marriage? Oh, she went
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: to its furious? How dare you ask? Then she puts
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: out a Christmas card and Deed's not on the picture. Girl,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: You're not making it. His name isn't even on the picture.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: What was she do? She signed it? Torrian family? What's that?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Candy Swell? Who is the Sweedie now called Tory Dean?
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: The children that Tory and Dean plus the dogs Tori
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: and Dean distinct mind over Murder co stars. But you
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: should say, Torrion, you had a show called Tori and Dean.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: That's what we know you was. It's very straight. It's
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: very straight. And yet if you ask her how's your marriage?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Should be curious? Yes, it's just fine. Not making it easier. O. Hey,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: we're gonna make it easier for you. We're gonna take
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: a quick break and we will be right back. Welcome
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: back to the camp. The naughty but nice show. It's
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: a sign you're on Donna. You're bringing that the naughty
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: and all of us. Hey, Donnie, let's get to the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: thank you darling. So Janet Jackson put up a very
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: cryptic response to Justin timber Legg being accused of being
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: disgusting in his reaction to her wardrobe malfunction all those
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: years ago. There's a new documentary act so it's all bubbling, bubbling,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: bubbling back up. Within hours of that documentary coming out,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Janet put out a cryptical response. Our question was, should
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Janet tell all? Should you just tell all? Why be
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: so coy? Let's have a lookal eight two said yes, Janet,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: it's so long ago. Tell your story, sit down. What
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: actually happened? Was this planned? Was just in on it?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Did it go wrong? Or did the response go wrong?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Was it not the response you wanted? Why would you
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: be wearing jewelry on your nipples if you weren't going
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: to flash them? There's so many questions. She knows the answers, Donnie,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: after all those years, what is it? Seventeen years eighteen?
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: It's something like that, Janet, You've got nothing to lose.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Now tell all, do you agree. I'm actually going to
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: disagree with you, because I honestly think lately the pendulum
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is swinging in her favor, and if she speaks out,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: she runs the risk of saying something that makes people go, oh,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: maybe Channet did do this some purpose. And so I
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: think she's being smart about being like because Justin now
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: is paying for it. I would say that people are
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: upset with him, and she's like, well, I don't want
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: to say anything because they're already mad at him. Oh
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that's true. There's a there's a there's a lesson a
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: class in pr and it's sayings when you're winning, shut up,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: when you're doing well, shut up when the other person
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: is getting destroyed, shut up. So Donnie, actually I've changed
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: my mind. You're right here, Janet, say nothing, you're winning?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Why would you? Why would you step on your own message? Here? Hey,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: don't forget to vote on today's poll. Go to our
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Twitter page at naughty nice wrong but on Facebook page
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And now it's time for a really lovely nicey st Well.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: First of all, I loved the movie Speed and Sandra
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Pollock and Kiana Reeves and for years they was dating
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: because they're two of the nicest celebrities in Hollywood. Well now,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Sandra Pollock, she's talking about it, which I think is fabulous.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And she was asked basically, did they date and she
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: said no, she said flat out now and she talked
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: about because it might have ruined their friendship, and she goes,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: but who knows. Kiano is a guy who I feel
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like is friends with every woman he's ever dated. I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone who has something horrible to say
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: about him. So maybe we could have survived. I don't know,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: they could have been happily ever after. You never know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I like this, you are the nicest of the day,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and now I'm naughtiest of the day. Shame. Caitlyn Jenner
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: is talking about the future has with Ellen Degenerous, saying
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it got so nasty she wanted to call up Chris,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: her ex wife, to ban the Kardashians from ever going
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: on Ellen show ever again. So while appearing on Big
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Brother v I P. Which of course Caitlin is on.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It's in Australia and she's getting paid to be on
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: this show. Remember when Dina Lohan did it in America.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I love it. So
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Caitlin is recalling a moment when she was on The
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Ellen Show months after coming out, and Caitlyn said it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: started with quote, normal questions, and then Ellen asked her
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: stance on same sex marriage. Now, Caitlyn is a conservative
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Republican who has previously said she's against it. Caitlyn recalls quote,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: she goes to me, well, it sounds like you're not
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: really for it, and I said no, I'm just said
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I'm for gay marriage. While the next week, Ellen was
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: on the Howard Stern Show and she said to Howard,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn Jenna is not for gay bridge. And that's when
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: things got really, really nasty. Caitlyn said she wanted she
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: debated calling up her ex wife Chris Jenna and asking
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: her the momnager a manager to ban the Kardashians and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the Jennas from the Ellen Show. That did not happen.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: It's a very difficult thing here because Caitlyn has changed
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: her mind and said different things. In two thousand and fifteen,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn called herself a traditionalist when talking about the same
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: sex marriage. Then Caitlyn wrote in our book that she
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: claims Ellen alienated her from the LGBTQ community. This one
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is much more complicated than Caitlin is letting on and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: naughtiest of the day. Hey, and now it's time for
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: a moment of Rather you get fund said by my
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: who book the forward answer. Don't let yourself be defined
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: by the worst moments of your life or reduced to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the things you hate about yourself. Don't let that see
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: who you are. We've all done things we hate, We've
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: all had terrible moments. It's not who you are. It's
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: a moment, it's a mistake. Don't let it define you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: That's it for today. I have a lovely Thanksgiving tomorrow.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And thank you so much for listening to The Naughty
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but Nice with Robin Donny Shower, a production of I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe on the Ihold Radio app,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listen. Leave us a review
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: if you can. They really help and remember altogether. Now,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be naughty, you've got to been nice.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Take care of it's not even nice with bro