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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Jeff Logoman. Keep you informed in up
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Speaker 1: to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome in The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
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Speaker 2: Florida from the Hondai Studios the Miller Electric Center. We're
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Speaker 2: on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University of Florida,
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Speaker 2: number one university in the US News and World Reports,
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Speaker 2: number one state for education. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logoman will
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Speaker 2: have Liam Cohen, the Jacks head coach with us starting
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Speaker 2: in the regular season.
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Speaker 3: I think these guys will do tonight.
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Speaker 2: Tony Vasselli, James Gladstone joining us in studio to get
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Speaker 2: things going at the start of training camp.
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Speaker 4: Tony Vasselli, what's those joining us on the network? Was
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Speaker 4: a minute early? It is a new Land speed record.
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Speaker 5: All our fans are gonna be like, hey, didn't show
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Speaker 5: up right when the show started.
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Speaker 3: Amazing.
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Speaker 4: Welcome in guys, James, glad to have you in here.
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Speaker 3: Ish Man, It's awesome.
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Speaker 6: Let's to be on the on the mic. I know this.
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Speaker 7: We got two rules in this franchise. The first one
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Speaker 7: is beyond time. Yeah, Tony is abiding by that rule,
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Speaker 7: committed to the process.
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Speaker 3: I hold him to that.
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Speaker 5: Well, you'll love this first meeting departments, it's like we
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Speaker 5: have three before. This was before Liam put in the
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Speaker 5: whole football rules and stuff. We talked about how we're
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Speaker 5: going to operate as a operation staff. You know, we
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Speaker 5: had three rules. Beyond time, respect everyone in the building,
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Speaker 5: and work your ass off.
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 5: If you do those three things, you are going to
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Speaker 5: be good.
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Speaker 2: I know where you got those three things from.
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Speaker 5: Well, actually you know where I got him from. To
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Speaker 5: be on times like tom obviously.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was be early, be early.
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Speaker 5: So but we actually one of the things, and I
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Speaker 5: believe in that. Liam highlights it, and uh, James Lie
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Speaker 5: and I talked about it being on time. We will
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Speaker 5: not start a meeting early either. So if like the
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Speaker 5: meeting starts at nine, it starts at nine, that doesn't
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Speaker 5: mean like you're not if you get there five minutes early.
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Speaker 5: We're not going to start five minutes early, which was
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Speaker 5: TC time, which is that's his mode of operation. That's great,
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Speaker 5: But nine o'clock we have a meeting. It starts at
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Speaker 5: nine o'clock.
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Speaker 3: So I got fined.
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Speaker 5: One time I got fined. I was three minutes early
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Speaker 5: and I was late.
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Speaker 2: I crossed the concentration line two minutes before the to begin,
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Speaker 2: and I got fine.
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Speaker 3: The concentration Where.
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Speaker 6: Was the concentration line?
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Speaker 5: Practice field?
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Speaker 2: Well, this was back in Stevens Point, you know, so
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Speaker 2: it was like you know, going.
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Speaker 3: Through it was a little bit murky. There was a
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Speaker 3: game a blur.
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Speaker 2: No he had you like baseball. You've got the guy
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Speaker 2: with the chalk machine. They had a line that was
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Speaker 2: across the gate, but was.
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Speaker 5: Remember when the practice field used to be where Dailies
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Speaker 5: is now a lot d That's where it was for
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Speaker 5: our whole time you and I played here. It was
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Speaker 5: a chain link fence around the whole field with early
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Speaker 5: there wasn't even any coverings. They finally covered and some
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Speaker 5: people couldn't spy on us. But there was one gate
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Speaker 5: you could go through and there was literally a big
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Speaker 5: wide yellow line and that was a concentration step over.
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Speaker 3: You're locked in.
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Speaker 5: And if you're not across that line. In Tom's world,
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Speaker 5: five minutes before practice start, you're late. Fine, make it rain,
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Speaker 5: but you know where I got those with influence that
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Speaker 5: The kind of how I think about it in a
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Speaker 5: big way is John Robinson because I remember when he
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Speaker 5: came to Sea and Larry Smith was the coach before
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Speaker 5: great had a great was a great college coach. He
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Speaker 5: was more in than Tom Coughlin school of thought, lots
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Speaker 5: of rules, very like a lot and I remember Coach
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Speaker 5: Robinson came in and operated just find just operated with
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Speaker 5: Tom here no problems. When John Robinson came that scene,
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Speaker 5: we had a first meeting, team meeting. I'll never forget
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Speaker 5: three rules and they were similar to that. Beyond time
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Speaker 5: respect everyone in the building was big unrespecting because he
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Speaker 5: did not like if you respect, if you disrespected people
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Speaker 5: underneath you. He had a real issue with that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rule number two has been framed many different ways, yes,
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Speaker 2: and some of them not so clean language wise.
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Speaker 5: That's a good point. And then the last rule was
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Speaker 5: play your tail and so and I remember being a
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Speaker 5: player in that situation. For me, it was a lot
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Speaker 5: of freedom from the stance of not lack of rules
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Speaker 5: as and James's articulated this best. I'd never articulated this way,
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Speaker 5: but allowed me to be who I was and just hey,
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Speaker 5: it's easy show up on time, respect the building, respect everybody.
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Speaker 5: You respect people by being on time because you value
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Speaker 5: their time, you know, treat everyone as a human as
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Speaker 5: we should, with respect and love and kindness. And then finally,
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Speaker 5: just do your job to the best of your ability.
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Speaker 5: And amazingly, if you do those three things, every other
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Speaker 5: rule you can think of pretty much gets coveralls. It
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Speaker 5: falls in line. Now except for no white sox that
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Speaker 5: I couldn't find a place for that one. But uh,
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Speaker 5: and so that's kind of how we operate. And it's interesting, Lamb.
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Speaker 5: When he became our head coach, we sat down the
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Speaker 5: first time and we talked about the three of us,
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Speaker 5: like what are the teams, like, what's the culture, how
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Speaker 5: are we going to do things? And what are the rules?
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Speaker 5: And Liam's like, I got two rules, yeah, beyond time,
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Speaker 5: protect the team, Yeah, the.
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Speaker 2: One the one thing I think that by having those
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Speaker 2: ground rules kind of talked about and established for I know,
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Speaker 2: for the locker room, because you know, I came from
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Speaker 2: environments that didn't necessarily have rules spelled out when I
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Speaker 2: came here with Coughlan and he had those rules and
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Speaker 2: his rules were way long.
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Speaker 4: But the gist of it was those by the way,
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Speaker 4: if you if you.
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Speaker 5: If you summarized all of rules outside of some of
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Speaker 5: the travel things like he had his nuances of what
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Speaker 5: he wanted to wear and stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, James, you would have gotten fed.
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Speaker 5: No, James hates white sox too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got white sneakers on that was not allowed. Okay,
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Speaker 2: trust me, I know the rule book because I got
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Speaker 2: fined for that time.
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Speaker 5: Halfway there. You're halfway there.
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Speaker 2: But but the thing that I was going to get
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Speaker 2: at is that when you have those those rules in
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Speaker 2: place as a player, it gives you an environment that
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Speaker 2: you can thrive in because you don't feel like that
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Speaker 2: you have to end up cleaning up the rough locker
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Speaker 2: room or establishing what the rules should be as a leader.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's already there, and it allows you to
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Speaker 2: do more than just pick up.
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Speaker 3: The pieces of trash, so to speak.
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Speaker 2: You know. Jeff Lockman, j P. Shadwick, Tony Boselli, James Gladstone.
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Speaker 2: This is the Liam Cohen Show. Liam Cohen will be
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Speaker 2: with us at the start of the regular season, stuck
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Speaker 2: with us.
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Speaker 5: During training camp.
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Speaker 3: James too.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's gotten two words in yet.
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Speaker 5: A question he's happy with.
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Speaker 3: He's the question.
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Speaker 2: The team has been assembled, the team is on the
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Speaker 2: field being coached.
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Speaker 3: Training campus here, Logs, you know where I'm going. I
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Speaker 3: do go there, James, What do you do now?
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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a great question.
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Speaker 7: You know, Tony and I spent a lot of time
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Speaker 7: together and I've done a ton of talking over the
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Speaker 7: course of the spring the early portion of the summer,
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Speaker 7: and you know, I'm looking forward to seeing all this
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Speaker 7: come to life and really round out the remaining items
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Speaker 7: on the to do list, so to speak, before the
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Speaker 7: season gets here, which right now, obviously with the kickoff
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Speaker 7: of camp, we're focusing a lot of our attention on
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Speaker 7: the return to play and what that all looks like.
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Speaker 7: While at the same time, we've got our scouting staff
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Speaker 7: back in the facility full time right now for a
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Speaker 7: two week window. Here, we're working through what we've labeled
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Speaker 7: as our scouting Summit, and we're walking through our modes operation,
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Speaker 7: the things that we're going to be placing an emphasis
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Speaker 7: on as we head into this next cycle, and really
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Speaker 7: getting a chance to be under the same roof with
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Speaker 7: them is a good thing for us as we all
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Speaker 7: get to know one another on a deeper level and
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Speaker 7: have a clear understanding for what it is we're looking
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Speaker 7: for as we start to hunt up the next iteration
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Speaker 7: of players that will come in, uh, through all the
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Speaker 7: modes of acquisition that will be in front of us,
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Speaker 7: and really just looking forward in the now to see
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Speaker 7: this group really, as as Liam has mentioned it, offer
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Speaker 7: their edge and create it together and really what the
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Speaker 7: identity of this team is going to look like here
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Speaker 7: throughout twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: I got I got.
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Speaker 2: Two questions for you, and I'll stick with the first question. First,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to overload your brain there because if
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Speaker 2: you're like me, you got to focus on one player.
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Speaker 5: I'm glad I got you.
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Speaker 2: How do you balance as a general manager the here
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Speaker 2: and now with this football team and also the future?
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Speaker 2: Because your job is not just about okay, I'm you're
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Speaker 2: not done with this roster. I mean there's still opportunities
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Speaker 2: to improve this roster here and now. But then also
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Speaker 2: you're looking down the road. So as a as a
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Speaker 2: general manager, how do you balance that as far as
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Speaker 2: handling them now but also handling the future?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 7: I see him as one and the same in a
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Speaker 7: lot of ways, right, both can be true you're you're
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Speaker 7: focusing on both and you know one has impact on
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Speaker 7: the other, And I think it's you can try and
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Speaker 7: compartmentalize as best as possible, but at the same time,
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Speaker 7: you got to know that, you know, rooting yourself in
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Speaker 7: the current moment is probably what's going to lend itself
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Speaker 7: to the most production, and knowing that that will definitely
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Speaker 7: have layered impact on what lies in front, but balancing
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Speaker 7: the logic, the line of.
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Speaker 6: Thinking is certainly going to remain at the forefront.
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Speaker 7: And I think it is fun vacillating between sort of
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Speaker 7: our conversations in the meeting rooms throughout the course of
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Speaker 7: a day and then jumping out to the field and
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Speaker 7: seeing what's taking place, and then engaging in some strategy
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Speaker 7: around what comes next, but knowing that the current moment
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Speaker 7: is the one you got to root yourself, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, Part two so that my brain can handle all this, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Every year, every team is in a different cap situation.
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Speaker 2: How is the health of the cap of this football
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Speaker 2: team this year, because at some point you may need
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Speaker 2: to tweak or add with injuries or with just supplementing
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Speaker 2: the roster. And also how is the cap situation of
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Speaker 2: this team moving forward, because you know a lot of
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Speaker 2: times that's not the conversation of this football team because
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Speaker 2: where it's been the most of the conversation is about
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Speaker 2: wins and losses. Most of the time the teams that win,
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Speaker 2: the conversation is about salary cap. But is the salary cap,
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Speaker 2: how is it now? And how's it look in the future.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we currently have about eighteen million in cap space,
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Speaker 7: and you got to account for and projectate. There's also
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Speaker 7: an idea you roll over a salary cap, so what
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Speaker 7: you don't use ends up in the next cycle, So
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Speaker 7: that's not a bad thing if you have a little extra.
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Speaker 7: We're kind of in the middle of the league on
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Speaker 7: the current space that we have at our disposal, which
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Speaker 7: gives us flexibility. It allows us if we feel like
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Speaker 7: we gotta we got to go after.
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Speaker 6: Somebody, we can.
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Speaker 7: We can entertain that we're not sort of limited by
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Speaker 7: that at this current moment. And obviously that has to
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Speaker 7: be entertained with a lot of forward thought, right knowing
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Speaker 7: that you can roll over and injuries may show themselves
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Speaker 7: that force your force your hand a little bit. Opportunities
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Speaker 7: pop up that you may or may not have anticipated,
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Speaker 7: and we certainly want to give ourselves a flexibility to
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Speaker 7: think about those things as they progress. And you also
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Speaker 7: got to take into consideration that our practice squads on
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Speaker 7: the horizon that'll take a chunk out of the current
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Speaker 7: cap space and things of that nature. So it's definitely
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Speaker 7: balancing a lot, but in a healthy spot heading into
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Speaker 7: the season, for sure.
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Speaker 5: I think as you look forward you after, I think
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Speaker 5: the unknown is because you're going to have some rollover
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Speaker 5: at least where we sit today, not knowing what the
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Speaker 5: future looks like. But the other thing you don't we
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Speaker 5: don't know specifically, what's the cap going to be next year,
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Speaker 5: what's the increase Like I think the cap from the
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Speaker 5: league from a league standpoint, like the cap increase a
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Speaker 5: little bit more than people expected this year, so a
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Speaker 5: lot of things going to that with the revenue and
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Speaker 5: everything else.
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Speaker 3: Seems like that happens every year.
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Speaker 2: It usually goes up a little more than expected than
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Speaker 2: which means the business is cooling.
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Speaker 3: That's right, downright, doesn't go down.
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Speaker 5: Let's hope not. That would not be good for anybody.
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Speaker 4: How long do we have you guys, by the way, uh,
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Speaker 4: thirty minutes thirty minutes from there.
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Speaker 3: So we got that's cool, write it down. I wish
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Speaker 3: we weren't on time. We're going to take a time out.
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Speaker 3: We'll come back with more.
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Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, James Gladstone with us in studio for the
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Speaker 2: opening Liam Cohen Show of the season on the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: Radio Network.
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Speaker 5: Welcome Back.
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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 4: Yes, The Liam Cohen Show is presented by a Fresh
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Speaker 4: from Florida J P.
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Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Blogman. We're at the Hondai Studios, the
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Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center. Tony Boselli and James Gladstone live in
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Speaker 2: studio with us. We'll have the head coach charting in
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Speaker 2: week one of the regular season on this program each
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Speaker 2: and every Thursday on the Jaguars Radio Network. Let's get
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Speaker 2: into some personnel. First couple of days, James, what stood
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Speaker 2: out to you on the field from the balcony over here?
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Speaker 7: You know what, It's been fun to see it. The
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Speaker 7: competition across all three phases really shine and been some
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Speaker 7: great moments from each side of the ball, and a
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Speaker 7: lot of things that are easy to identify and coach
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Speaker 7: up and lean into in terms of getting better each day.
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Speaker 7: But to see the level of competition where it's at
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Speaker 7: players doing what's being asked of them and committing to it,
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Speaker 7: really showing a sign and buy in has been really neat.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 7: You look at our offense, there's a high level of
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Speaker 7: complexity attached to it and it requires it's got a
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Speaker 7: high level of mental demands pre snap to make post
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Speaker 7: snap easier, and obviously preparation is necessary for that to
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Speaker 7: look clean. The operation being as clean as it has
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Speaker 7: been on the offensive side of the ball through two
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Speaker 7: practices is really something to give praise to. And you
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Speaker 7: got to point to players who didn't take time off
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Speaker 7: from their mental preparation and the lead up to these
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Speaker 7: couple of days, right, Uh, for Trevor to have walked
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Speaker 7: in and have a one hundred question quiz sprung upon
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Speaker 7: him just like every other QB and walk away as
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Speaker 7: the winner of that output. It wasn't just right or
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Speaker 7: wrong answers, It was the speed at which you were
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Speaker 7: answering and scored.
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Speaker 6: According to that.
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Speaker 3: Did they know they were going to have this test?
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Speaker 6: They had no idea.
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Speaker 7: They were going through a normal meeting and then bam,
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Speaker 7: right before they left here, you guys go eighty five
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Speaker 7: Is that right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: And again again it's not like eighty five out of
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Speaker 7: one hundred, so to speak, as much as it is
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Speaker 7: a scoring system that takes into account the speed at
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Speaker 7: which you're answering having that type of stuff, which obviously
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Speaker 7: is so.
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Speaker 3: What what would be? What would be is great? I
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Speaker 3: mean I don't like that.
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Speaker 5: I wish I think the biggest thing on that, the
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Speaker 5: bigger thing on that is this. In that room you
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Speaker 5: had obviously Trevor, Nick Mullins, John Wolford in our rookie Hennigan.
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Speaker 5: Wolford and Mullens both have been in the system and
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Speaker 5: operated this system for years, so very familiar with the
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Speaker 5: language how they call it, can plays. Trevor's first exposure
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Speaker 5: to this was this spring. I would have expected and
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Speaker 5: this is not a knock against Trevor. It's a complex system.
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Speaker 5: As James said that either Nick, Mullens or Wolford would
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Speaker 5: have been the highest and everything else. To me where
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Speaker 5: Trevor gets an a in my book, because these are
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Speaker 5: Wolford and Mullens are both very smart, very intellectual, understanding,
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Speaker 5: almost coaches on the field in some sense. For Trevor
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Speaker 5: to have the highest score like to me, I was like, Wow,
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Speaker 5: pleasant surprise. This is a guy who has dedicated himself
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Speaker 5: since the day he got here, as he's rehaving a
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Speaker 5: shoulder with our coaches, to be diligent of understanding the system,
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Speaker 5: the calls, the checks, the formations, it's multiple formations, and
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Speaker 5: you don't do that by just the time that you're
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Speaker 5: required or you're asked to spend here with the coaches.
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Speaker 5: You have to do that on your own. And for
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Speaker 5: him to do that shows what kind of pro he
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Speaker 5: is and the fact that he's achieved that mentally is
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Speaker 5: a real positive.
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Speaker 2: I thought that physically he looks the best he's ever looked.
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Speaker 2: Do you guys look agree? I mean, I thought he's
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Speaker 2: looks in great shape that he has been I think
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Speaker 2: in his career. I don't know what he waited in
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 5: Know what he's waited in the past, but I think
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Speaker 5: he came in in great shape, and like all our
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Speaker 5: guys did, I think that had a great offseason. I
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Speaker 5: give it a ton of credit to Eric Ciano, our
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Speaker 5: strength head strength coach and his staff and the buy
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Speaker 5: in from our players. I think all of us were
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Speaker 5: very pleased with the off season. And then a number
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Speaker 5: of our players. Some went to other places to work out,
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Speaker 5: go home, which is very normal. A lot of guys,
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Speaker 5: more than normal, stayed in Jacksonville on their own because
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Speaker 5: it's all voluntary, can't be coaches involved during that dead period,
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Speaker 5: to work out at the facility and to really train
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Speaker 5: and work out together. Trevor taking the receivers once again
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Speaker 5: to the Bahamas to do that work. The dedication from
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Speaker 5: the players to be as prepared as they possibly can
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Speaker 5: before camp was it was very encouraging.
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Speaker 3: All right. So I was watching The Hunt, okay on YouTube.
17:34
Speaker 3: You guys might have heard of it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, And you guys have been stars
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Speaker 2: on that, you know episode one, two and then three,
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Speaker 2: and episode three was the Iron Jaguar, and I saw
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Speaker 2: Trevor lifting weights, okay, And I was sitting there thinking
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Speaker 2: back to the days of old, and I was going,
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Speaker 2: I wonder if Trevor was doing power cleans.
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Speaker 6: It's a different dynamic nowady, Yeah, it's a.
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Speaker 3: Little bit different weightlifting.
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Speaker 5: It's not the old days yet for Jerry Paul, Mary's
17:59
Speaker 5: having Mark Ronell power cleans with the rest of us
18:01
Speaker 5: in the way.
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Speaker 3: The reason I bring that up is that that really happened.
18:05
Speaker 5: It did happen our starting quarterbacks. And by the way,
18:09
Speaker 5: he had one of the highest power queens guys.
18:12
Speaker 3: In the weight room and we yeah, he hurt his back.
18:16
Speaker 3: That was the last day. What are we doing?
18:18
Speaker 5: And I think that was ninety six. It was the
18:20
Speaker 5: last day of his career. He did power cleans. He
18:22
Speaker 5: was forbidden to do powerqleeens from that moment on.
18:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, trust me.
18:25
Speaker 7: I asked Tony a lot of questions about what was
18:27
Speaker 7: it like back in your day, and oh, the story.
18:30
Speaker 5: Starting quarterback, it's a little bit different. It's a different deal.
18:36
Speaker 2: Tony Sally James Ladstone with us. This is the Liam
18:38
Speaker 2: Cohen Show, first of the season on the Jaguars Radio Network.
18:42
Speaker 2: A lot of eyeballs on Travis Hunter. Certainly the fans
18:44
Speaker 2: and the stands are excited every time he touches the
18:46
Speaker 2: ball on offense. But the first couple of days he's
18:49
Speaker 2: also had very light defensive walk through work during special
18:53
Speaker 2: teams times and they've said every moment of practice is
18:57
Speaker 2: scripted out for him.
18:59
Speaker 3: So far, so good. But what's the next step now
19:01
Speaker 3: for Travis Hunter.
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Speaker 6: You know, I've got to give a ton of credit.
19:04
Speaker 7: Liam put a ton of time and attention into what
19:07
Speaker 7: that progression is going to look like for Travis over
19:09
Speaker 7: the course of the training camp and obviously building up
19:13
Speaker 7: for the regular season, but school coming off of our
19:16
Speaker 7: plan in Ota, seeing them bounce back from offense to
19:20
Speaker 7: defense every other practice and things like that, more heavily
19:24
Speaker 7: loaded on offense, obviously knowing that that's such a critical
19:28
Speaker 7: phase of the calendar year where it is a mental load,
19:31
Speaker 7: and with the complexity of our offensive system, wanting to
19:35
Speaker 7: place an emphasis there, and then also learning through that
19:40
Speaker 7: of where there can be issues or hurdles to overcome when,
19:45
Speaker 7: as an example, you have a four day weekend right
19:49
Speaker 7: in front of you and you go offense on Thursday,
19:52
Speaker 7: your Friday off, Saturday off, Sunday off. Defense is the
19:57
Speaker 7: next one up for them, and now you have such
19:59
Speaker 7: a a significant gap between time on task it can
20:03
Speaker 7: be challenging to recalibrate the mind being detached from it
20:07
Speaker 7: like that. So using that as a nice example and
20:11
Speaker 7: building out our training camp approach, I know Liam's got
20:15
Speaker 7: a really well written out point in obviously will remain
20:18
Speaker 7: agile as things show themselves or feel like we need
20:22
Speaker 7: to put more emphasis in a certain area, but with
20:25
Speaker 7: Travis's commitment, the coach's commitment to making sure that this
20:29
Speaker 7: is all an option to bring to life here and
20:31
Speaker 7: there early going is a really cool thing to see
20:34
Speaker 7: play in real time.
20:36
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch kind of that Travis on offense,
20:40
Speaker 2: but not just because of him. You've got BTJ, who
20:45
Speaker 2: is incredibly fast. You've got Diamie Brown who can fly.
20:50
Speaker 2: So you got three guys that can fly, and Parker
20:52
Speaker 2: Washington is a powerful, quick, you know, after the catch
20:56
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Got a lot of weapons there on offense.
20:59
Speaker 2: But the speed I think of those three guys, I'm
21:02
Speaker 2: holding up four fingers of those three guys goes back
21:06
Speaker 2: when we were talking about earlier exactly speak of those
21:09
Speaker 2: three guys.
21:10
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch those guys play football game.
21:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you can certainly point to that as
21:14
Speaker 7: some version of a superpower of the offense as a whole.
21:17
Speaker 7: I think it shows up in a number of different
21:19
Speaker 7: position groups, and that includes our offensive line.
21:22
Speaker 6: There's a group of guys up there that.
21:25
Speaker 7: Are very mobile, and I think you can expect to
21:28
Speaker 7: see that, you know, be a part of our game
21:29
Speaker 7: as we move into this regular season. And obviously, you
21:32
Speaker 7: know know that sort of what we're leaning into most
21:35
Speaker 7: can evolve. It may not be the exact same as
21:39
Speaker 7: what we're seeing now four weeks from now, may not
21:41
Speaker 7: be the exact same week one as it is week five,
21:44
Speaker 7: but look forward to seeing the identity of the group
21:46
Speaker 7: come to life and the them be.
21:48
Speaker 6: A part of that here in the early down and
21:50
Speaker 6: do their part.
21:51
Speaker 3: Uh, Tony, are you ready for pads yet?
21:54
Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, it was funny when Jeff acts or maybe
21:57
Speaker 5: it's you jps James, the questions like who stood out out?
22:00
Speaker 5: And I said, well, in this non football activities that
22:02
Speaker 5: we're doing right now in the field because we haven't
22:04
Speaker 5: played football yet, No and all I mean, I've joked
22:08
Speaker 5: about this every year I was on the show. In
22:10
Speaker 5: all seriousness, now, sitting where I sit, there's only so
22:15
Speaker 5: much evaluation you can do of who you are as
22:17
Speaker 5: a team through what we've done so far. It's a
22:20
Speaker 5: necessary it's critical. James talked about the mental side of it,
22:24
Speaker 5: critical of the condition and the strength become a becoming
22:28
Speaker 5: a team, establishing a culture, how you're going to operate.
22:31
Speaker 5: All those things are so important. You cannot do that
22:34
Speaker 5: without the phases. We've gone through this acclamation period is
22:37
Speaker 5: important to get everyone back in the building.
22:40
Speaker 3: You know, well, you've been a way. No, but I'm
22:42
Speaker 3: saying it's critical. The guy that used to complain about
22:44
Speaker 3: the way things are great.
22:46
Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not saying it's great. I say it's critical.
22:49
Speaker 5: But you don't know who you are as a football
22:51
Speaker 5: team until you start playing football. Like we talked about
22:56
Speaker 5: our offensive line, I think what we've done in the
22:58
Speaker 5: off season, the work they have done, I think we
23:00
Speaker 5: have very good depth. But I can't sit here right
23:04
Speaker 5: now and tell you who we are as an offensive
23:06
Speaker 5: line and how are they going to work together. You
23:10
Speaker 5: look at the other side of the line of scrimmage, Trayvon,
23:13
Speaker 5: josh Man. They had great off seasons. Their bodies look different.
23:17
Speaker 5: They are hungry to get to another level in their
23:20
Speaker 5: careers and their games. Mason Smith had did everything we asked,
23:26
Speaker 5: dedicated works his tail off. Davon Hamilton looks like what
23:31
Speaker 5: he did. He weighs what we want him to wa
23:36
Speaker 5: He's weighing right where we want him away. But Jeff,
23:39
Speaker 5: you and I've watched him for a long time. Before
23:41
Speaker 5: the back injury, he was ascending to being one of
23:44
Speaker 5: the better one techniques, gets hurt bad injury impacted them
23:49
Speaker 5: in a major way. You can see him in his
23:52
Speaker 5: body getting back to what we saw before, excited for
23:56
Speaker 5: what he can do. And you just go down the list,
23:58
Speaker 5: but I can't tell you what any of them are
24:01
Speaker 5: until you put the pads on it. You see that
24:03
Speaker 5: competitive in a competitive environment where you're being physical. Because
24:08
Speaker 5: I think one of the things Liam is harped on
24:10
Speaker 5: we all believe is we have to be a more
24:14
Speaker 5: physical team. We have to be able to run the ball,
24:16
Speaker 5: we have to control the line of scrimmage, and then
24:18
Speaker 5: on the other side, we got to stop the run,
24:19
Speaker 5: give ourselves a chance to rush the passer and getting
24:22
Speaker 5: positive downs and distance for our defense that can attack,
24:25
Speaker 5: take the ball away, create turnovers. So we are such
24:29
Speaker 5: an early stage, it's really hard to make a full
24:32
Speaker 5: evaluation of where we're at until you get and start
24:35
Speaker 5: playing foot.
24:35
Speaker 7: The other element to just lend itself into an understanding of.
24:39
Speaker 6: How we'll scout. Our style of scouting.
24:43
Speaker 7: It's rooted in authentic football exposures, right the idea of
24:48
Speaker 7: watching game film, turning on the tape, pressing play quarter
24:54
Speaker 7: one to quarter four, play after play, letting it speak
24:57
Speaker 7: to you. The non off authentic football exposures, the one
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Speaker 7: on one settings where it's offensive line defensive line and
25:05
Speaker 7: it's not true to form. It's not a real football exposure,
25:08
Speaker 7: or the on field workouts where there is no enemy
25:13
Speaker 7: across from you. Combine, those are not authentic football exposures.
25:18
Speaker 7: We will root ourselves in the city of Football as
25:23
Speaker 7: a part of our evaluation process. And this just points
25:26
Speaker 7: back to what Tony's saying. We've seen very good things
25:29
Speaker 7: as a part of the phases that we've gone through todate.
25:33
Speaker 7: We will not know who we are until we put
25:36
Speaker 7: the pads on.
25:37
Speaker 2: Upcoming one more time out, We'll come back. Final thoughts
25:39
Speaker 2: with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone. It's the Liam Cohen
25:42
Speaker 2: Show on Jaguars Radio.
26:00
Speaker 5: Welcome Back.
26:01
Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show presented by Fresh from Florida continues
26:06
Speaker 1: right now.
26:06
Speaker 2: Final moments with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone on The
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen Show presented by a Fresh from Florida J P.
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Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman and Yeah, tell Liam, we're waiting
26:16
Speaker 2: on him, you know, sort of the regular season. Glad
26:19
Speaker 2: to have you guys hear the right now.
26:20
Speaker 5: He is a little busy. There's a lot going on.
26:22
Speaker 5: They're walking through right now to walk through, So you're stuck.
26:27
Speaker 5: You're stuck with us.
26:28
Speaker 3: Do you miss radio Tony?
26:30
Speaker 5: Not one bit, JP, I miss hanging out with you guys.
26:35
Speaker 2: So so a little different schedule because you know, practice
26:41
Speaker 2: in the morning and then walk through in the afternoon.
26:44
Speaker 5: Uh.
26:45
Speaker 2: I like it. As a player, I would like that
26:47
Speaker 2: just I mean, you know, take advantage of any cool
26:49
Speaker 2: part of the day you can get, you.
26:51
Speaker 5: Know, and not only that it's I mean it's still
26:53
Speaker 5: been hot. It was hot this morning, but I think
26:56
Speaker 5: you get away from those afternoon thundershowers where you're forced inside.
27:00
Speaker 5: We do not want to practice inside if we don't
27:02
Speaker 5: have to, obviously, and I think just the overall schedule
27:07
Speaker 5: of how it's laid out, I think it's beneficial for
27:11
Speaker 5: obviously the weather I just talked about, but also for
27:13
Speaker 5: our coaches and how they prepare for the day, our players,
27:16
Speaker 5: the kind of the rhythm they go into. So so far,
27:18
Speaker 5: so good. Obviously we're early in the down and but
27:23
Speaker 5: I think everyone right now is operating pretty well in
27:25
Speaker 5: the schedule change.
27:26
Speaker 3: You excited for pads next week?
27:28
Speaker 2: Oh?
27:28
Speaker 7: I can't wait here those babies pop authentic football exposures
27:32
Speaker 7: on the horizon. Yeah, we're just step for that to occur,
27:35
Speaker 7: and I think at that point we'll start to see
27:38
Speaker 7: some things that we haven't yet and start to pivot
27:40
Speaker 7: based off of them.
27:42
Speaker 2: I think there's always a level of excitement, you know,
27:45
Speaker 2: when the pads go on. I mean, because you know,
27:47
Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknowns, and there's some guys that
27:50
Speaker 2: you watch when they're not in pads and you go, yeah, yeah,
27:53
Speaker 2: but when they get pads on, they're different. I mean,
27:56
Speaker 2: that's some guys just distinguishing themselves when the pads go on.
27:59
Speaker 2: Are there couple guys that you each you know, this
28:02
Speaker 2: is for each of you to answer on your own.
28:05
Speaker 2: Are there are a couple guys that you got your
28:08
Speaker 2: eyes on when the pads go on that you're like,
28:11
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him?
28:13
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think that's for me.
28:14
Speaker 7: It's probably fair to say that that's across the board.
28:17
Speaker 7: There's never an instance where I'm evaluating somebody that that's
28:22
Speaker 7: not the case. Everything else is just sort of the
28:27
Speaker 7: the baseline elements, and until you're in the pads, it's
28:30
Speaker 7: hard for me to really say with any certainty what
28:34
Speaker 7: you're actually going to be. But you know, across the
28:36
Speaker 7: board when when you start to look at the trenches,
28:38
Speaker 7: that's probably at least where the internal sentiment would be
28:42
Speaker 7: as well. That was a great rep here in OTAs,
28:44
Speaker 7: but I have no idea if that would have been
28:46
Speaker 7: the case had the pad's been on. So from tight
28:49
Speaker 7: end to interior ol it's certainly top of mind, and
28:52
Speaker 7: the fact that we're going to ask our receivers to
28:54
Speaker 7: do a little bit more in that phase of the
28:56
Speaker 7: game than they're probably used to. Right, knowing that this
29:00
Speaker 7: system asks that all eleven participate in the run game offensively,
29:05
Speaker 7: it'll be it'll be exciting to see those guys get
29:07
Speaker 7: engaged in that.
29:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got fourteen individual guys and looking forward to
29:13
Speaker 5: watching you just read the offense the line now, I'm
29:20
Speaker 5: with James. I mean, I think you go across the board.
29:22
Speaker 5: Obviously I'm drawn to the offensive line. I was joking
29:25
Speaker 5: with James as we were doing some scouting work. Uh,
29:29
Speaker 5: the last couple of days looking at OTA's and different things.
29:33
Speaker 5: I have to tell myself, I have to tell myself
29:36
Speaker 5: to look at other positions because I found myself yesterday
29:42
Speaker 5: we were watching as a group and I missed the
29:44
Speaker 5: first two plays. Uh, all I watch is the five
29:48
Speaker 5: guys up front, and then you naturally watch the defensive guys,
29:51
Speaker 5: and after two players, I'm like, oh gosh, I gotta
29:53
Speaker 5: watch what the dbs are doing. The ride receivers to
29:56
Speaker 5: do it, which has actually been a ton of fun
29:58
Speaker 5: for me. Super thankful to James we work through the
30:02
Speaker 5: process and allowing me to dive into some of the
30:07
Speaker 5: cross check scouting, but also looking at the overall thing
30:10
Speaker 5: because I love the game of football and we've talked
30:13
Speaker 5: about that for years and it's been a ton of
30:17
Speaker 5: fun for me to really dive into different positions and
30:21
Speaker 5: watching our backs and watching the back end. And you
30:23
Speaker 5: look at a guy like k old Rant saw that
30:25
Speaker 5: we got out of tu lane and again we're not
30:27
Speaker 5: in pads, but watching him operate and or whether it's
30:31
Speaker 5: him or Jordan Lewis positions I probably would watch as
30:35
Speaker 5: we watch film together, Jeff. Obviously we'd watch every game
30:37
Speaker 5: and kind of evaluate what we saw, but those are
30:40
Speaker 5: glances you kind of watching, always drawn back to the trenches,
30:43
Speaker 5: and so really to dive into that, I think that's
30:45
Speaker 5: been a privilege for me and a ton of fun
30:47
Speaker 5: and super thankful for James.
30:49
Speaker 7: And hold On talk about I get the luxury of
30:53
Speaker 7: sitting in a room with a Hall of Fame offensive
30:55
Speaker 7: lineman when we're evaluating though.
30:57
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm thankful that I get that up as well.
31:00
Speaker 7: And I also get to ride the tales of Hey,
31:02
Speaker 7: Tony's been asked to go be a speaker at a
31:05
Speaker 7: an OL Mastermind setting that he hadn't gone to in years,
31:09
Speaker 7: but offer I'm like, hey, would you mind if I come?
31:12
Speaker 5: He messed up my he messed up my summer. Hey
31:15
Speaker 5: did you get write it at all? On Mastermind? I go, yeah,
31:18
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go what is that? It's a
31:20
Speaker 5: it's a great event started by Lane Johnson and a
31:23
Speaker 5: guy named Duke Merriweather's a really good football player and
31:27
Speaker 5: a great dude, just maybe the best tackle in football
31:30
Speaker 5: right now.
31:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love his thoughts on the current state of
31:32
Speaker 2: the Union. By the way, just my you're a Union guy.
31:35
Speaker 2: I'll let you we'll talk about that in our time.
31:37
Speaker 2: But they've been doing it for I don't how many years,
31:39
Speaker 2: probably seven I think it is now. This was the.
31:43
Speaker 6: Equivalent, but they bring in not only.
31:46
Speaker 5: NFL, but top college guys because Duke Merriweather is a
31:49
Speaker 5: guy that has a facility that he trains both college
31:52
Speaker 5: players and NFL players.
31:54
Speaker 3: And who's Duke Merriweather.
31:56
Speaker 5: I don't know his.
31:57
Speaker 7: Background that well, to be honest, I believe he started
31:59
Speaker 7: as a high school trainer and eventually a lot of
32:02
Speaker 7: those players UH began finding success collegiately and and professionally. UH.
32:08
Speaker 7: And so he's built up a good client tele list
32:11
Speaker 7: and has a has a pretty big following.
32:14
Speaker 6: But obviously in conjunction with Lane, who.
32:17
Speaker 7: Was one of his early clients, UH has structured this
32:20
Speaker 7: this ol masterminds event annually and I think it's either
32:24
Speaker 7: seventh or eighth year.
32:26
Speaker 6: And just like that of tight End, you a Sack summit,
32:30
Speaker 6: it's the equivalent.
32:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great.
32:32
Speaker 3: So you talked him into going, Well you weren't going
32:34
Speaker 3: to go.
32:34
Speaker 5: Well, usually I don't go because it's he's vacation exactly right, JP.
32:40
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the Islands and this year I was happy
32:43
Speaker 5: to be in UH town and the schedulesn't working. James like,
32:48
Speaker 5: I think you should go where it's a Dallas because
32:50
Speaker 5: I think you should go, But he did. Then he
32:52
Speaker 5: quickly followed up, he goes, can I come with you?
32:56
Speaker 4: So, yes, we're working.
32:57
Speaker 7: It's been a blast being in the bunker with Tony,
32:59
Speaker 7: and I'm sure we're both thankful for different elements, but
33:03
Speaker 7: I'm certain that I am I'm probably reaping more rewards
33:06
Speaker 7: than he is apart. But get this, So we end
33:10
Speaker 7: up we were scheduled to stay the night.
33:12
Speaker 6: The event gets over.
33:13
Speaker 7: Earlier than anticipated, so we're like, wait a minute, there's
33:16
Speaker 7: one more flight back to Jacksonville.
33:18
Speaker 6: So we had flown out seven am.
33:21
Speaker 7: We get a chance to get on like a five
33:24
Speaker 7: pm to get us back here at seven pm, and as.
33:28
Speaker 6: A part of that, we're on standby.
33:30
Speaker 7: Well Tony gets crammed middle seat economy and it's all
33:37
Speaker 7: everybody going from Dallas to Jacksonville.
33:38
Speaker 6: So there's plenty of people that know who's sitting You
33:41
Speaker 6: think you're in.
33:42
Speaker 5: The gym and me walking past everybody to the back crammed,
33:47
Speaker 5: and I think James got a kick out of it.
33:49
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there, but I'll tell you what to get
33:51
Speaker 5: home twenty four hours early. That's cool when you know
33:54
Speaker 5: that you're getting ready to go to the camp. And
33:56
Speaker 5: he listened. Next seven months it is full, full speed
33:59
Speaker 5: and can't wait for It's exciting, but you relish any
34:03
Speaker 5: moment you can have in that time off at home
34:05
Speaker 5: and with family. And James like, what do you think
34:08
Speaker 5: about going back? I'm like, we'll be a coach and
34:11
Speaker 5: He's like, you okay with that? I'm like, hell, yeah,
34:13
Speaker 5: let's go. I don't care what pain I'm meant for
34:16
Speaker 5: the next two hours, two.
34:17
Speaker 3: And a half hours, I'll be fine. Those poor people
34:19
Speaker 3: you had to sit down, Yeah, man.
34:22
Speaker 5: They suffered more than I did.
34:25
Speaker 3: James, Tony, it's been a pleasure. We did forty minutes.
34:27
Speaker 3: About that.
34:28
Speaker 5: Well, that means next week we only do twenty No no.
34:33
Speaker 2: Week.
34:34
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Appreciate you.
34:35
Speaker 5: Guys, appreciate you.
34:36
Speaker 3: Tony Boselli joining us and we're back with more after this.
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Speaker 3: It's a Liam Cohen Show. I'm a Jaguars Radio Network
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 7: J P.
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Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, forty minutes with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone.
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Speaker 3: That was good stuff.
35:07
Speaker 2: Holy smokes, that was good stuff, you know, And I
35:11
Speaker 2: appreciate them taking the time to do this during training
35:15
Speaker 2: camp when the head coach is incredibly busy, because it
35:20
Speaker 2: makes our job easier. And and you know what, I
35:22
Speaker 2: get wildly entertained. Entertained by hanging out with those two guys.
35:25
Speaker 2: You learn a lot about the operation and how this
35:28
Speaker 2: offseason's gone, their mindset of the GM and what he's
35:32
Speaker 2: looking for. I mean, it's just fascinating to hear. Yeah,
35:34
Speaker 2: it's it's good stuff, and I can't wait for the
35:37
Speaker 2: next next Thursday.
35:39
Speaker 3: I guess they're back next Thursday. Yeah, that's what they
35:41
Speaker 3: just said. I guess. Okay, I guess they say.
35:43
Speaker 2: So they have established now that they're they're going to
35:46
Speaker 2: be on for forty minutes.
35:47
Speaker 3: So you know, that's what it is. You know, it
35:49
Speaker 3: is what it is. It's certainly what it is.
35:52
Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment, and we've got to
35:53
Speaker 2: dig into some position group battles when we come back.
35:56
Speaker 3: How about that. I'm all for it.
35:58
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do the not on big guy categories. Yeah,
36:02
Speaker 2: because like you said, there's no there's no football happening yet.
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Speaker 5: Welcome Back.
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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back j P. Shadrick with Jeff Logman on Liam
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Speaker 2: Cohen Show. The head coach will join us at the
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Speaker 2: start of the regular seasons. Thanks again the James Gladstone
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Speaker 2: Tony Boselli for joining us. How many of you want
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Speaker 3: Looking forward to.
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Speaker 2: That, well, I got to say that incredibly refreshing listening
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Speaker 2: to James Gladstone when he talked about the evaluation process
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Speaker 2: of players and how you know the evaluation process has
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Speaker 2: got to include the contact, the physicality, actual football, actual football, right.
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Speaker 2: He was not saying that the combine is a throwaway tool,
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Speaker 2: but he was saying that there are things that are
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Speaker 2: incredibly important, and that is the football aspect of it,
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Speaker 2: of actually playing football, you know, and I'm not trying
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Speaker 2: to point to anybody that has been here or anybody
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Speaker 2: at any other organization, but if you want to find
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Speaker 2: the best football players, okay for your team, watch when
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Speaker 2: they've played football and evaluate that part of it and
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Speaker 2: not so much the forty times the.
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Speaker 4: Four cone or.
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Speaker 2: Broad jump or vertical jump or all these other things.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think that's all interesting.
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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have numbers attached to them and you
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Speaker 2: can grade players and rate players. Yeah, And it's an
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Speaker 2: easy way analytics wise, is it. Well this guy he's
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Speaker 2: faster than this guy, and this guy, well, Look, the
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Speaker 2: hard part and the part that AI and analytics can't evaluate,
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Speaker 2: is if a guy's a good football player. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the trained eye has to be able to evaluate that.
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Speaker 2: And that point of view, to me is incredibly refreshing.
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Speaker 2: And that one of the reasons why I'm very excited
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Speaker 2: about the three guys that are in place right now.
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Speaker 2: Tony's a football guy, James is a football guy, believes
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Speaker 2: in watching and evaluating football, and obviously Liam Cohen is
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Speaker 2: a football guy. And the one thing that I love
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Speaker 2: about Liam the more that I watch him. Only been
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Speaker 2: around him a little bit, but watching him, I love
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Speaker 2: the edge that he has. I think there's I think
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Speaker 2: all coaches need to have a lot. People have to
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Speaker 2: have a little bit of an edge to be successful
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Speaker 2: in this game. And I'm excited about the three of
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Speaker 2: those guys. I think this organization is in great hands.
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Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to some of those position battles we promised
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Speaker 2: some skill guys.
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Speaker 3: Sorry to distract you there. It's a great comment. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we love hearing from it. It's been a while. I
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Speaker 3: know it's been a while.
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Speaker 4: This is The Liam Cohen Show and the Jaguars Radio Network.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, continues
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logman, Glad you're with us. We
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Speaker 2: are back for the twenty twenty five season. It is
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Speaker 2: The Liam Cohen Show. James Gladston, Antony Boselli joining us
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Speaker 2: earlier in the program, looking forward to the podcast version
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Speaker 2: of that go check that out again.
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Speaker 3: Position battles.
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Speaker 2: As they were talking about logs it's kind of hard
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Speaker 2: to look at the trenches right now, but in terms
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Speaker 2: of skill, guys both sides of the ball give me
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Speaker 2: the most intriguing position battle on each side, offense and
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Speaker 2: defense right now. I think the two position groups that
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Speaker 2: we had talked about during Happy Hour, to me are
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Speaker 2: the most interesting. Running back I think is going to
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Speaker 2: be highly competitive, and I think there will be some
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Speaker 2: changes on a week to week basis until they find
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Speaker 2: a hot hand in some situations.
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Speaker 3: The third down.
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Speaker 2: Back position is going to be up for grabs, just
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Speaker 2: like I think the workhorse position is going to be
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Speaker 2: open for competition. I don't think there will be one
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Speaker 2: guy that fulfills both roles. I think that will be
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Speaker 2: divvied up between two guys and maybe even three guys
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Speaker 2: at some point. The defensive backfield, I think is also
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Speaker 2: very interesting to me, and it starts with a conversation
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Speaker 2: about Travis Hunter. How much will he be available, what
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Speaker 2: packages will he be a part of, which packages will
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Speaker 2: he not be a part of. And I think that
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Speaker 2: leads into Okay, now that you've established that, now you
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Speaker 2: kind of know where the battles for the rest of
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Speaker 2: it are. But until you know the roles and define
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Speaker 2: the playtime amount and the packages for Travis Hunter. I
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Speaker 2: think then you really don't know where it's going to
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Speaker 2: be at. But I can tell you this, whether Travis
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Speaker 2: Hunter is playing defense or not, there is an interesting.
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Speaker 3: Battle going on with that whole back end.
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Speaker 2: If there is one guy that maybe has a lot,
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Speaker 2: it's Tyson Campbell George Lewis. Other than that, I think
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Speaker 2: that there's open competition there at all the other positions
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Speaker 2: in the background.
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Speaker 4: And as Kevin Ellie said today, you know it might
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Speaker 4: not be over.
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Speaker 2: It could be a week to week. Let's see who
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Speaker 2: is the better matchup. Right, Hey, maybe we don't need
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Speaker 2: Travis on defense this week because the matchup's not great,
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Speaker 2: or we have a better matchup somebody who matches up
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Speaker 2: against their receivers better, or you know, that could change
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Speaker 2: the whole dynamic.
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Speaker 3: You know, they really can.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be a fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: And you know a lot of times, like when you
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Speaker 2: talk about your opinion on something like when it comes
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Speaker 2: to a stock or something like that, you know you
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Speaker 2: have a you know what is it. You're bullish on
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Speaker 2: something or your bearish or whatever. Yes, okay, I'm bullish
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Speaker 2: on the back end the secondary for two reasons. One,
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Speaker 2: I think they've added a lot of talent the two
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Speaker 2: different ways that they could and free agency, then also
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Speaker 2: with the draft. But then also because of Campanili or Campanelli,
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to say his last name is. I
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Speaker 2: think that he's going to bring a standard of execution
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Speaker 2: to this defense that is going to make last year's
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Speaker 2: defense look even worse than really what it was. Because
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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers in the past couple of years
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Speaker 2: have been incredibly thorough and an incredibly mistake free and
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Speaker 2: highly competitive, and I expect him to instill that same
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Speaker 2: thing here in Jacksonville. Come back in a moment, Final
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Speaker 2: thoughts on the opening Liam Cohen Show of the season
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Speaker 2: on Jaguars Radio.
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
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Speaker 1: Florida continues right now.
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Speaker 2: The final couple of moments here on The Liam Cohen Show.
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Speaker 2: JP Shadick with Jeff Logoman. The upcoming schedule for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: They'll practice tomorrow morning at eight forty five or eight
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Speaker 2: forty or so officially, so that'll be open to the public.
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com Slash training camp players off Saturday then
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Speaker 2: they're back at it. Logs on Sunday in spider pads.
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Speaker 2: The shoulder pads come on Monday and Tuesday before and
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Speaker 2: off day Wednesday. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be here
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Speaker 2: tomorrow with you, and I'm more obvious with being announced
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Speaker 2: in practice, but the excitement to me really stars it's
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Speaker 2: on Monday when the pads get real. And the one
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Speaker 2: thing I will say, I appreciate and Liam Cones's interview today,
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Speaker 2: he was asked a question about pads and all of that,
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Speaker 2: and along the lines of what Jane Fladstone said about
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Speaker 2: the evaluation process pads is the most important thing and
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Speaker 2: contact and playing football. Liam Cones said that he's going
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Speaker 2: to take advantage of every opportunity that he can with
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Speaker 2: the pads to get his team ready to play football.
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Speaker 2: And I love hearing that because just like you said
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Speaker 2: and they said that, you know, to evaluate football, you
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Speaker 2: got to do the football things. Thanks to James Gladstone,
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Speaker 2: Tony Basselli, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, David Shoe, our entire
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Speaker 2: crew for Jeff Logerman, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: listening to the Liam Cohen's Joe and the Jaguars Radio Network,