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And that night, I saw videos and I saw people walking around with
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tag, I'm a kidney donor. And another, another guy's
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walking around. I'm a recipient.
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I was like, wow. And I was 3030 years old at the
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time. And I told my wife, why don't I
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donate a kidney? I can't believe you really want
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to go through this. I'm like, yeah, you're like,
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you're not drunk. None of your business, Oshi.
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None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business
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podcast hosted by Michael Anoshi.
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Welcome back everybody to another amazing episode of the
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comment, get involved. We enjoy your feedback and we're
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growing together on our journey. Today we are joined by the
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person that told me my first dirty joke when I.
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Was a sleepaway camp. And I was nine years old.
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Tomer Naftali, welcome to the. Program, Thank you.
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Thank you for having me. You're one of the most spiritual
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people I know and right, so journey.
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So like, what was that like? It was definitely a beautiful I,
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I don't want to call it a roller coaster because it wasn't a
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roller coaster, but, but as soon as we moved to the States, I was
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sent to public school. Actually, I was sent to yeshiva.
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We went, I went to Hawk Heber Academy of West Queens.
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I was there for a year. I couldn't stand it.
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I hated it so much so that I took, you know, and in the
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bakery they would have or the pizza shops, they would wrap the
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pizza box with, with a white string.
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I would take those strings and put them here in the side.
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So it's it was Cetus because we had a very annoying teacher that
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would come in every day and check, are you right, Cetus?
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So we just checked the string. So that's what I had because I
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couldn't stand it. I could.
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I hated it. That's terrible.
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The teacher would actually check.
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Yeah, yeah, that. And she was a time for domining
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and it was so hated. I mean, as as a kid in second
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grade who has no connection whatsoever to, to going to
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yeshiva. And when I was, I remember being
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in in kindergarten and we had a, it'll be, I grew up in regional
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and we had a fence. It was a shared building and
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there was a fence. One side is the non religious
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and the other side was a religious.
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And they used to tell us that the religious people are smelly.
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So this, you know, and growing up, like why would I want to
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associate or be connected to a smelly kid?
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And some kids had dirt coming out of their ears.
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I mean, whatever. They were just not well
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maintained. That could very well be also
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with a regular guy. So growing up, I was like, I
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want to stay away from these guys.
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From religious people. From religious people.
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And then when we came here, all of a sudden you're like, they're
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not. There's nothing bad.
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And we were in a religious neighborhood in Queens, Kew
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Garden Hills. So I started having making
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friends. And then from there I actually
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started putting on kippa and Cetus in public school.
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No, I finished fifth grade. You left Hawk, and you went to.
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Public I left Hawk. I went to public school 3rd,
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4th, 5th, and in the middle of 4th I put on a Kippa and Cetus
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and as a whole year and a half that I was, you know, already
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practicing religion. And then some holy soul, a Jew,
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I would actually mention his name because he's, he's an
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incredible guy. Robbie Newman from Queens.
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He put me into dark Hetora, put me into yeshiva.
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And you know, from there, it's, it's, you know, it's all
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history. So your parents weren't
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religious my. Parents weren't religious and
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they came in. Why did you decide in 4th, 5th
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grade that you want to suddenly put on a keeper like had?
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My, my siblings, my older siblings who went to Ezra
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Academy, if you heard of Ezra Academy, they're incredible.
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They, they really help people. They had one of the best verbame
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then was Rimosha Weinberger from Ace from, from Woodmere.
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And he got my sister on board to become religious.
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And then my sister, my sister started keeping Shabbos.
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My mother had the cost of the kitchen and we started have to
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make Chile. And then, you know, Friday night
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meals, it became more official. And then I told my sister, I
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really, I love this. I I want to keep Shabbos with
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you. I want to dent with you.
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I want, you know, and and that that got me into it.
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And from there, you know, it was big became Shiva.
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And then from yeshiva, we started rolling.
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You know we don't. Know this lifeless.
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You know the. Phenomenon and we just met
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someone recently who's the last 20s who was living at home and
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no one in his family is observant and he's doing it on
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his own. I think it's amazing that a
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family allows you, your parents allowed you to live the parent.
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My parents allowed it. Not only that, they put on, you
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know, now you're, you're going back and you're thinking about
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it. Wow.
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To put in a Shabbos clock so the lights could turn on and off.
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And I remember my brother, he would the dafka shut off the
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light in the bathroom and I and I went on, I got one of those
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Shabbos protectors and he would take it.
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He would try to, you know, sibling rivalry.
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Your brothers do. That's where it's.
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Normal. It's normal.
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But the fact that my parents got me the you know that that
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Shabbos, I remember this, but there was a push button and you
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turn it and you said it that you know.
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Those are always very yeah. Very little button.
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You still see them in Brooklyn and some old house over there.
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You know you'll you'll find. Is it off?
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You know, when I built my house, by the way, I created a Shabbos
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clock room that everything is controlled from one room.
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You have that. Not only do I not have that, I
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have never in my life used a Shabbos timer, Shabbos clock,
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ever on anything, even when I was growing up.
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Ever. I've never used one, never been
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one, never used 1A light that's on.
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It stays on. It's off.
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It stays off on. Goodbye.
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Have a nice. Day you remember the Shabbos.
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Clock pins, remember they had that little plastic pins and you
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have like. No, you had.
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They come, they came out and you have you lost it.
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You couldn't use the shopping stock ever.
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You're like running around right before shopping.
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I need a black pin to turn it back on.
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I hit the on the Why is he talking?
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Hit the sit there and had the, the ability to say or do
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whatever he wants. But that's, that's an amazing
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background. I, I, I can dive deep into that
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for hours and we could standing, but keep forwarding us up a
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little bit and telling us how you got to where you are today.
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All right, so then, you know, Muncie called.
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I was introduced to Muncie and I fell in love.
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I called it Muncie Iricoidis. This is what Muncie was like.
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Wow. I remember my sister and my
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brother-in-law, they, they brought me up on one and, and
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we're talking about Albert Drive.
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And I was like, wow, I was so fascinated.
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I mean, first of all, the space and the, the, the, the beauty
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was summer. It was really, really nice.
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And then I was like, OK, I want to go to yeshiva over here.
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And I got myself into yeshiva. I went to Bischeraga.
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Yeah. No, it's after Bischeraga.
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After me shrug, I went to Israel for a little bit came back, I
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learned graphic design and when did you got married?
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I married I was 21. I got married on my birthday on.
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Your birthday? Yeah. 21 nice I met my wife in
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Muncie. She actually pretty fascinating
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story how we met. I I came to Muncie to help an
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organization. I had a friend, Ron Krezel,
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maybe you know, I know him. OK, so his father had an
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organization that he worked for our team, our team.
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They they help people to, you know, Kiru and all that.
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And he said to me, Tomer, I know you.
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You're not shy, you're not embarrassed.
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You're a good fundraiser. I need you here on Perm in
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Muncie. I told him, listen, it's a
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Thursday. My parents are having their meal
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in Brooklyn. If you can make sure that I get
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a ride back on on Perm day. So I'll drive you fine, no
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problem. If you're going to drive me, I'm
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in. So I came to Muncie on Wednesday
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afternoon. We, we had the, you know,
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whatever it is, we went collecting me and him and, and
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whatever we did, we did, we did, we made, we did good.
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And then 3:00 in the afternoon, I think like skiers at 5:30
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roughly, we are ready driving towards Pascack Rd.
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Get on getting on from old Nike Turnpike onto the highway.
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As we're about to enter the highway, he says we have to turn
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around. I'm like what for that we forgot
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to say Frederick Emporium to my parents who are having a meal by
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the Luzon family. Are you kidding?
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Send them a beep beeper. You know, we have phones back
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then like. Stop by the.
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Get a pay phone and then I'm a beep Abby Burr so we because.
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Everybody needs to understand that that means gun and.
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We turned around, get all the way right near Orsamihangel
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Court. Opposite side of where you were,
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yeah. And we came there and that's
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where I met my wife. What happened where she was
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just. Sitting there, she had, she came
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from Montreal for Peru. She's there.
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She had, she dressed up like a bear.
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So she had the, you know, like polka dots on her face and
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whatever. I'd not say hello to her, but I
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asked the lady or the lady who I used to be been biased by that
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house, OK. And I'm like, who is that?
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She's like Tomali. She's great.
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That's she's your wife. She's your wife.
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That's it. Go.
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I was like, what are you talking about?
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She called my mom that night, told her get her on the phone.
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I went out with her on Sunday for the first time.
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This was perm night was Thursday night.
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We went out on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday Shabbat.
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We spent the whole Shabbat. I came to Monday.
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I proposed about the Shabbat. One week.
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One week. One week.
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One week I've ever heard of that That's.
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Edward, your wife for one week. One week.
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That's insane. And that was it.
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I mean, you know, we, we have a lot of listeners by the way,
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they're not Jewish. I'm sure I'm going to get a lot
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of. But even by our standards, one
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week is very, very fair above. You know what we're going to
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hear back. Yeah, but then, then of course,
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you know, her parents were opposed because she's Ashkenaz
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and I'm Sephardic. She's from the neighbor Ox.
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The background, Paula. You know again what kind of
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Sephardic are. You about Syrian?
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You're Syrian Turkish now Syrian Turks.
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Usually marry into Syrians only or can you go to Persia?
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You could do whatever you want today.
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Today you could do whatever you're asking.
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In general, you're not. What's accepted is that you're,
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you really should not intermingle because, you know,
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the, the, the cultural differences could really, you
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know, become a challenge. This person who has a radio
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show, he has live Zoom conferences with hundreds of
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thousands of people tuning in every single week.
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The reason why they do is because he is amazing.
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I sat with him for over an hour and I got the most out of it.
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And let me tell you, I did a lot of talking, he did a lot of
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listening. And I learned that the Serenity
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Center is a clinic that provides a service for therapy that's led
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and supervised by Mordecai Weinberger.
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And I see why they're so successful.
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And it's just something that, you know, we need to mention
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more of. And I want the community of
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Rockland County and even beyond to know that if you need
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therapy, don't wait and push it off because it might be too
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expensive or you may not be aware of the perfect therapist.
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Go to Serenity center, try them out.
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Insurance will most likely cover most if not all the charges and
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you will get top level service. Sounds like a no brainer to me.
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See that was your first job was was marketing printing.
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A graphic design. Graphic design.
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Yep, and you were the actual graphic designer.
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I was a designer. You had a company, you had, you
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had people working for you. I would say that.
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You. I had people working for me.
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Yeah, back then. Back then, if any couple was
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getting married, they wanted to. Work on an invitation.
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He would sit there and curate the logo and figure out the
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words. And I did, I did everything for
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them. I mean, I would meet people in
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the store and I see a couple that were just in gate and like,
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here's my card. You're going to get, you're
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getting married, you need a wedding invitation.
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And and believe it or not, people called me from that.
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Of course, you said you were laid off, so that's before you
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had this business. Right.
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Yes, it's before I had the business, I was working for
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someone and I found that later on that he was actually
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borrowing from a Gamache for three months to cover my salary.
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Very, very nice, great guy and I felt bad and he at some .6
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months prior to that, he offered me either go off on your own or
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he said he was offered a job by some big marketing company and
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he's like, I'll go and you run my business.
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And that's where I got more involved and that's at least
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where I had a little bit of the experience to run a, a, a
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business. I don't know what do we need
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$20,000? Buy a Mac, buy a printer, you
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know, little inkjet and scanner and you know, and we'll, we'll
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get. Started your business by
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yourself? By yourself?
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How old were you at the time? 20.
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Two and you were just married and one kid.
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Is married and then three weeks later we had a kid and thank God
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who is spiraled Barack Hashem from there.
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You know, many clients later, actually one of my biggest
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clients was Mati Soushard from Gateways organization.
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I actually helped him four years prior to run a seminar, one of
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his first seminars that he ran here when he was still with our
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Rahim. And then we met one day in the
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cleaners, Mazal cleaners, you know, next to Mandarin and we
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met over there and he's like, Oh, Tom, how are you?
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I told him I do graphic like he's like, oh, I have an
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organization. I need brochures, I need stuff
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and from that. So he he was one of my biggest
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clients. He's no.
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He's the yeah, he's one of the first organizations like in
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Rockland County. Not just making an organization
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and Kirov and rabbis inspiration, but also one of the
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first hay sock programs. Yeah.
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What are the programs that there the organization into a program.
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Yeah. And then the program supported
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the organization and that they just evolved.
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Now they have buildings in in in Manhattan and Tel Aviv.
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Phenomenal. He does, he does incredible work
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and, and, you know, kick off your so he, I'll kick off my
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business and, and I'll tell you at some point, very, very
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interesting, you know, because some people, and this is, this
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is part of the spirituality. Yeah, I, I, you know, we have
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it, It's, it's ingrained in our, in our blood system history.
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But we also need to constantly work on beat the horn and then
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muna and so on. And whatever happens is for the
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best, always, even things that you think that are not good.
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OK, Why don't I give you an example from A, a a, a movie
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that I just recently saw? I don't know.
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I don't remember the name. That's where.
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You're going with this? Yeah.
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Well, you're about to be an inspiration.
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I'm then we're going to talk about Rabbi.
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Or some safe. And I'm telling you from a
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movie. From a movie.
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OK, OK. I like your style.
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Go ahead. 22 girls that are are, you know, renting and they live
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in a dump. I'll, I'll, I'll remember the
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name it's called. Doesn't matter.
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Yeah, it doesn't matter anyway. They live in a dump and the guy
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came to to evict them. Where's the rent money?
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I gave it to her. I gave it to him.
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Whatever. The guy ended up stealing,
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stealing the money and they had from from 10:00 in the morning,
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they had till 6:00 PM to come up with the money, $1500.
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They did whatever they could to try to come up with the money.
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They ended up finding shoes hanging on the street and they
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sold it and they got the money. They made 2500 and now they had
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the money. And then some other girl came
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and beat him up and took the money.
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The girlfriend of the boy, whatever.
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Anyway, they don't have the money.
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By 6:00 PM, they show up and the guy emptied out their house.
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They're like, what do you mean you told us?
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By 6:00 PM, he says, well, I know you're not going to come up
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with the money, so I already evicted.
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You put the mat on the street. And at that moment you're like
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thinking to yourself, like, how much worse can I get?
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But I was like thinking to myself, everything is for the
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best. And what happened?
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One of these one of the girls is is an artist, but she didn't
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succeed. She wasn't doing anything.
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But now her art was out outside on display.
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And some girl that one of the new tenants that came, she saw
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it. She's like, I'm, I love this
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3500 boom. And also she was like, let's
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make a show. And they made an art gallery
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that night. They made tons of money.
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And I'm like, look at that. So from one thing that's bad and
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that was like being put out on the street, it's really for your
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best. Every situation like is, is like
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that in life. Things that sometimes seem.
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So where, where am I leading with this over here?
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We were renting for a few years in in Spring Valley and we get a
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call from the owner. I'm selling the house.
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So you guys have to leave and my wife where we're going to go.
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What are we going to do? I told her everything is for the
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best. We're going to find.
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We're going to go look for a house to buy.
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And we actually looked on Kenter Lane at six Kenter Lane, you
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know where, where ACOCA used to live and I don't know if you
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know them. And we looked at that one that
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wasn't good for us. And the, the next Sunday we saw
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the the house across the street, 5 Kenter Lane.
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My wife had some money put away from her childhood to her
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parents saved or whatever, but we needed so we had 20.
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And I'm like, OK, we'll get another 2010%.
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The house was 400,000 beautiful. You need 10%.
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My mortgage broker calls me and he says it's better if you get
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20% down. Where am I getting 20%?
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So here comes an unbelievable mahalo.
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I don't even know I could say that publicly, but you know
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what? It's OK.
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I called up a client and of an organization, not Sushart, but
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Sushart actually is the one that who introduced me to this client
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and they were like American friends.
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So they have an organization in Israel and they have an
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organization over here. And I called him up and I said,
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you know, I need 50K, would you loan it to me and I'll pay you
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back through printing services and and designs.
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He says, yeah, sure, come tomorrow, come pick up a check.
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And I was like, what? And to top it off, he tells me I
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don't want you to pay it back every invoice that you invoice
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because we were doing a lot of work for them.
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And he says I don't want you to pay it back all at one lump sum.
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Every invoice that you invoice us you will deduct 20% towards
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the loan and then the rest you could keep for yourself.
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Within two years, I paid off the whole loan.
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What a bench. What a bench.
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And then he got laid off. I mean, he was like 90,
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literally 90 years old. He got he got sent home.
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Now he was the emeritus of the of the company and they changed
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changed over and they stopped using US.
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And I told my wife, this is exactly what the Moldehai told
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us. Still in the head casualty got.
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This is the reason why you came to this position.
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I said the reason they were our clients was it that we could
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actually put down the money for the house, pay them back and be,
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you know, completely clean anyway.
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That that that, that I think was a very, very nice no.
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That's phenomenal. What a story.
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There's some good people in this world.
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You know, there are some people that really nice things for
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other people. And I mean, this guy is client
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of yours. Like he didn't have to do that.
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And it's also very risky business because if you're
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paying it back from what you're invoicing, you could start maybe
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inflating some of the prices. And I don't know how you know
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how honest it could be, but he trusted you.
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I imagine he trusted you. They trust me, you know, they
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scrutinized everything. They they knew everything that's
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going. On that's a really nice story.
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You mentioned your wife had some money saved up.
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What does that mean? She had my How did she have that
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money saved up? From her child, literally.
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I don't know. I don't. $20,000 from
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babysitting. That's from her.
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No way. From her grandparents.
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She was she was a child. Her pair her oh, like her own
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hair. Her grandparents open up a
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savings account. Usually that's what you do when
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you have a child that's born. So she had that, No?
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The savings account. Yeah, right.
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I don't know what you mean. My grandmother didn't leave me a
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savings account. Yeah.
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That's really. Nice.
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It was very, very nice. Do people do that?
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Is that normal? I mean, everyone has a little
20:28
bit of a different flavor of how they do things, but people save
20:31
money for their kids. I remember my dad, he actually
20:33
gave me an option when I first got married and he said to me,
20:38
I'll, I'll either give you $15,000 for a ring or whatever
20:44
the amount was for the ring and the setting and so on.
20:47
Or I'll give you 5 grand. You buy yourself a less
20:50
expensive ring, but I'll give you 20,000 to buy your first
20:53
house. What do you pick?
20:55
And he had money saved up for me and at the time we decided
20:59
together she got a 5 grand ring and they gave you 20 gram
21:02
towards your because I made the decision that the house was more
21:05
important together. Obviously I didn't do it alone,
21:08
but everybody does something different.
21:09
I think that especially if you have a friend that's a life
21:11
insurance salesman, I'm sure he'll.
21:13
Tell you to. Save up for your child or buy
21:16
life insurance for your own 4 year old kid and save up over.
21:19
That's really nice. You're very, very fortunate.
21:20
Yeah, but it's interesting to me.
21:22
By not everybody has that it's. Interesting to me that Tomar,
21:24
you know, oh, she's asking you give me a moment that defines
21:29
you and you're picking your business.
21:31
There's not. Defines you the first moment
21:33
that he made his mark. Yeah.
21:36
First, like, what's his entrance way into the adult world like?
21:39
That because you went into this business and then COVID came and
21:43
then you pivoted and then you started this whole new business
21:46
line and like you're saying, everything happens for a reason.
21:50
I just, I would love to hear that process like you, you
21:52
definitely have a great marketing head.
21:53
You're a salesman. You're, you're not a connector.
21:56
You see a person in a in a store and then you find out they're
21:59
engaged and you know, do you go to dating spots and is that
22:03
something that you did? Also, you know, I don't know
22:05
what you're talking about. I'm gonna say I know you know
22:07
his story already, but I have no idea about anything that you
22:10
just said. That's what I'm saying.
22:11
So you had this printing business, then what happened?
22:13
That's my point. I'm saying you should take us
22:15
forward and. Yeah, all right.
22:16
Were you so? Very successful in the printing
22:18
business. And did you make in the biggest
22:21
year when you were doing what was like the biggest year you
22:24
had? I'm just trying to say like what
22:26
kind of revenue you were talking about?
22:28
I mean let's just say until I was doing printing, it was only
22:32
designed and I was bringing in about less than 100 KA year.
22:37
As soon as I opened up the printing business that was in
22:40
2006, the the sales almost quadrupled from year to year,
22:47
meaning the first year doing like 4400 between 4 and 500.
22:52
The next year I was already at 1.2 and that just it kept on
22:57
going up and up and then at some point I think it was like 1.5
23:03
roughly it's and then and then from there it started to
23:05
decline. You know, there's everybody goes
23:07
through roller coasters in life. Did you like it?
23:09
Did you love what you did? I loved what I did love.
23:11
I love that I because you get to actually see a product that you
23:15
created. It's your brainchild.
23:18
I created something and then that that thing was.
23:20
Something would you be shocked to know that you did the
23:22
invitations for my wedding? I would not be shocked.
23:25
Yeah, you did. You did invitations from my.
23:27
Wedding I did invitations and you know what I tell people I
23:29
go, I go to their children who are now getting married.
23:32
I'm like, you know, you're alive because of me.
23:35
There I. Don't know about that.
23:37
I don't know about that, but no. Invitations.
23:39
No wedding, no child. All right, all right, everybody
23:42
settle down. I they're not curing cancer over
23:45
here, but that's pretty, that's pretty cool.
23:47
So how long did you do this thing for and what happened?
23:50
So we did the invitation. We were in the invitation
23:53
industry till 2020 till COVID. Is there even industry now like
23:59
I know when? People believe it or not, there
24:00
is. People went back, people went
24:02
back. It's like via WhatsApp.
24:04
WhatsApp a lot of that are hard copy invitations believe.
24:07
It or not our mailboxes are that's what people do.
24:09
They want to go to our mailboxes are full because they realize
24:11
that doing that that you know, the wedding registry barely
24:14
works the WhatsApp. Is that right?
24:16
Am I right though in saying that that really want to send
24:18
physical invitation? Because they want to go to
24:20
check. I never send the check with the
24:21
return card. Some people do.
24:23
If I want to show up to the wedding, I'll bring the check
24:25
with me. Some people do believe it or
24:26
not, there there's a nice amount of of of money that comes and
24:30
it's for the kids, by the way. How much money did you?
24:32
Make at your wedding. At our wedding we made 10K10.
24:35
Nice, actually I made 6. I made three, Yeah.
24:39
So apparently I suck or I have very stingy, stingy friends and
24:42
family members, but I made three grand.
24:44
That's it. People make Oh and I and I spent
24:46
it in like the first 3 weeks. Yeah, I don't remember.
24:49
I'm just living. I didn't have a lot of money
24:51
when I got. I read those like, you know, I'm
24:53
I. Who had money?
24:54
Who had money? You know, like the most your
24:55
most expensive bill was Verizon. Your life was so much simpler
24:59
then it was. I had so much less. 50 contacts
25:02
on your phone. That's it.
25:03
You can't have any more. Yep, extra out of 50.
25:06
I had more, you know that I still remember phone numbers
25:09
from back then because you had to.
25:10
You had to memorize numbers. I remember numbers of, of, of
25:13
vendors, of of of the, you know, family members.
25:16
I remember my old phone number. Go ask me today what my
25:18
daughter's number. Hold on.
25:19
Let me know what her numbers do. You want her something very, you
25:21
know your. Daughter's number.
25:22
We're talking about like bar mitzvah wedding money, bar
25:25
mitzvah money, right? The kids we turn 13 usually they
25:28
get I don't know how much they get like on average 3004
25:31
thousand something like that. Some of my friends told me they
25:34
got like fifteen $20,000 out there bar mitzvah, which is wild
25:37
to me that to get that much money.
25:38
But I only discovered years later that it was very normal
25:43
for people, for bar mitzvah boys that they kept the money, that
25:45
the money was for them and they got to use it or they parents
25:49
made them put it away and they used it.
25:50
You know, later on when they got married, I didn't keep my money.
25:53
My my parents actually took the money from me the night of the
25:57
bar mitzvah. I didn't even get to like.
25:59
You know. See the account, how much money
26:01
it was. They took the money from me and
26:04
when I was like talking about my friends later on, I'd be like,
26:06
really like you, you didn't keep the money.
26:08
And then no. And I thought it was normal.
26:10
I always started feeling bad about myself much, much late.
26:12
At the time, I didn't think it was such a big deal, you know.
26:15
But apparently in Hasidic world, it's very common.
26:19
They take the bar mitzvah money from the kid and they use that
26:23
to pay some of the bills from the bar mitzvah thing.
26:25
And in the non basitas world, it's not common.
26:28
It's actually considered like a little, it's an insult.
26:31
Like, yeah, it's the kids money. Like, you know, even if the
26:33
parents don't have money, even if they have to borrow money to
26:35
make a bar Mitzo, they will not take the kids money, which I
26:38
don't know how I feel about it. I don't know, like does the
26:41
parents have the right to take the money?
26:43
Should they not take the money? Like Mike, what's your feeling
26:46
on that? You know that if a kid wins
26:49
money in a lawsuit, the parents have the right to use the money
26:53
to help the kid live, right? So you can use, let's say a kid,
26:56
you know something happens to him and they there's a lawsuit
26:58
and there's a earnings of $100,000 off a lawsuit.
27:00
So what do you do? Do you give the kid the money?
27:03
Or do you you you put it away for the care?
27:05
You or do you or if you and if you can't live and you need that
27:08
money, what do you do? So you're, that's the, that's
27:10
the question that comes up interested in these discussions
27:13
that I've had before. But legally you're allowed to
27:15
use. Sometimes the parents are
27:16
desperate, sometimes they, they don't have them, they don't have
27:19
money. And if they got access to it in
27:21
this way and they, they feel like justified and, and using
27:24
it, I guess. But doesn't mean it's right.
27:26
It doesn't mean it's right. And it's a it's a little bit of
27:29
a controversial topic. You know, parents feel like
27:32
sometimes entitled to, you know, their kids, whatever, until
27:35
they're like, you know, married on their own, Like everything
27:37
you do is mine, right? You're under living under my
27:39
house. But I think that's an old school
27:41
mentality. Like I wouldn't do that for my
27:44
kids. I mean, I should never need to.
27:45
I should never know of it, right?
27:47
I, I feel like I would feel very dirty, like taking my kids by
27:51
miss for money. I feel like I feel dirty doing
27:53
that. I guess it depends how much they
27:55
made. Hey, you know what, I, I think
27:59
every family has their own, you know, situation and how they
28:02
handle it and how they, they decide.
28:03
You know, I, I, I heard of one family, you know, since I met
28:06
people with invitations. So they, they would say, we
28:09
don't allow you to open the gift until you sit down and write a
28:12
thank you note. Of course, it's all.
28:14
Yeah, you have to have gratitude.
28:15
Sounds horrible. Yeah, that's that's very nice.
28:17
Don't you know you cannot cash the check until you?
28:20
Teach appreciation. Yeah, have have gratitude.
28:23
And you know what? I just saw something right?
28:25
Now I hope my parents did. I hope everybody, but I
28:28
definitely the. Ratitude.
28:30
It's called an avodah. The avodah it's a it's a work.
28:32
It's it's it's it's something you have to work on because not
28:38
everybody has it naturally. To be grateful, you have to
28:43
constantly work on being. Grateful, Tomer, I I'm very
28:46
grateful that you're in my life. And one of the things that I
28:51
know about you that, oh, she doesn't.
28:53
And if it's OK with you, I want to talk about the idea of being
28:57
grateful. You want, you know, you call me
28:58
up a lot for different, you know, organizations to support
29:03
and to be a part of them. And we'll get back to that in a
29:05
minute because I have a problem with that.
29:06
And we'll talk about that in a minute.
29:08
But besides that, though, you called me once and you said,
29:10
yeah, come, we're we're having a party for somebody who almost
29:13
didn't live and they survived. And then I came to the party and
29:16
we're eating all this delicious Syrian food and so on.
29:21
I turned to the guy and I said, so what's your deal?
29:22
He goes, what are you doing? What's my deal?
29:24
Tomer gave me his kidney. Wow.
29:27
And I'm like, what? What are you talking about?
29:28
What? How much did he get paid for it?
29:31
What? What do you say?
29:32
What? How do you know?
29:33
Is he your brother? What?
29:36
Total stranger. Total stranger.
29:38
Help me through that. I've never actually asked you
29:40
this story and I don't know it. And since that moment I was
29:43
like, whoa, new found respect for you.
29:45
Like OK, it's interesting to know, but I was always scared to
29:48
tell it to ask the story and go through this with you.
29:50
But here we are. So I'd love to hear it.
29:53
Wedding invitations. That's where it started with a
29:55
wedding invitation for Mandy and Daniella Sabo. 8 years later,
30:01
she sends me an e-mail. She says I'm doing a party event
30:05
for renewal and I'd like you to print the Flyers and the
30:10
postcards and the tickets. I read the e-mail and I said,
30:14
wow, it sounds like a very worthy organization you're
30:17
talking about. They're going back to 2011 and
30:21
it was in the summer in August. And I said to her, I replied
30:25
back, I said, you know what sounds like a very good
30:27
organization. I'm going to donate all the
30:29
printing, the Flyers and whatever it is.
30:31
She says, wow, thank you. I'm giving you 2 tickets to come
30:35
to the to the event. So to make a Long story short,
30:40
we came to the event. It was wine tasting and food.
30:42
It was in Piermont. It was so beautiful.
30:44
I fell in love with Piermont. Piermont to me is like you just
30:47
go and chill, watch the bridge and the water.
30:51
It's very relaxing and calming. And that night I saw videos and
30:59
I saw people walking around with tag, I'm a kidney donor and
31:03
another another guy's walking around.
31:04
I'm a recipient. I was like, wow.
31:08
And I was 3030 years old at the time.
31:10
And I told my wife, why don't I donate a kidney?
31:16
You know, like we're saving, saving lives.
31:18
This is sound like a really, really nice thing.
31:20
I took Manacom Friedman's number.
31:22
He's one of the directors of renewal.
31:25
And and I told I at first I gave him my card and I said, we
31:29
cannot call you. You got to call us the next day.
31:32
It was Friday morning. I called him.
31:35
He's like Tomer, I'm never in my office on a Friday.
31:38
And I said I he's like, I can't believe you really want to go
31:41
through this. I'm like, yeah.
31:42
He's like, you're not drunk anymore.
31:43
I'm like, I'm not. They sent me the forms.
31:47
I then had to do blood work. So I went to Doctor Friedman,
31:51
Benjamin Friedman. He was a right across the free
31:53
from us. He did my blood work.
31:55
I overnighted it and within a week we got back the results and
32:00
they said that I match a guy who's been 17 years on dialysis.
32:06
He has 33 antibodies and you have 30 and you're the closest
32:14
match possible. The guy, 17 years has been
32:18
waiting And I said I told my wife, I'm like, are you kidding?
32:20
I'm sorry, I don't know what that means for antibodies.
32:23
OK, let's just say you have prongs like over here you have
32:27
on all these, you know, the back of the computer you have you
32:29
have the the prong and then and it goes in OK, antibodies are in
32:35
in your immune system. They protect you from certain
32:40
sicknesses. Most people will have 8:10,
32:43
12/15 whatever this guy Ronen, he received when he was 17 years
32:51
old, he received a kidney from a cadaver.
32:54
That's a dead person who just passed or had a car accident,
32:58
which is not the best form of of kidney receiving a kidney
33:02
because it's already it's it's it's the body went through a
33:04
shock. He had it for three years.
33:07
That kidney raised his antibody levels in his body to 33 from
33:13
whatever number he had prior. I don't know.
33:15
It doesn't make a difference. So, so basically, if if you're
33:19
putting in a foreign object in, in somebody's body, those are
33:24
going to reject it, 33 antibodies.
33:28
And if you put another guy who has 15, it's not going to the
33:31
prong won't won't fit. Won't connect.
33:34
Yeah, it won't connect. So it's going to be a reject.
33:36
The doctor said we're going to be able to handle the three by
33:40
giving an anti reject injection. And and very, very quickly we
33:48
went through with it. I called up the rabbis.
33:50
I introduced myself to Rabbi Mansour at that time for the
33:53
first time. It was that time when I was, you
33:56
met Rabbi. That's well, I met, I met him a
33:58
little bit before, but then I called him.
34:00
I told him, listen, I'm your, you know, I'm your student.
34:02
I'm your and, and it spiraled from there.
34:05
And Balkhasram, we have a very good connection today, you know,
34:09
driving in on Fridays and going in, keeping a steady connection
34:12
with the, with the Rabbi, which was very important to me because
34:16
in Muncie we didn't really have, you don't have anybody to really
34:19
connect with at the time, you know, going to going back to
34:22
2011 and Balkhasram, we saved the guy's life.
34:28
Let's get this time. So you thought of the first time
34:31
you even were I? Didn't even know what a kidney
34:33
was. Right, like the concept of
34:35
donating a kidney was just born a couple of weeks before that,
34:39
right when you went to the renewal event, Correct.
34:41
Right. They called you to do the
34:42
graphic designs. Oh, sounds like a nice
34:44
organization. I'll do it for free.
34:45
They invited you. You show up there, you get
34:47
inspired by all these other people.
34:49
I also want to do it. I want to give a kidney and then
34:51
like the next few days you give blood work and your.
34:54
Blood work and you're tested and then you and then then they.
34:56
Find a match within a week or two, they find a match for
34:59
another person and also a very rare match right, right exactly
35:03
They realize that wow this person's been waiting for a long
35:04
time. We didn't think we'd be able to
35:05
find someone. Now we're finding you and then
35:09
then you start going into the. Columbia, you got, you got to go
35:12
to Columbia Hospital. You you have to meet with with
35:15
the social worker. You have to meet with
35:17
psychiatrist colleges. They.
35:18
Got to make sure you're clean. Why are you doing this?
35:21
How are you doing? How is anybody paying you?
35:24
And of course, you like, no one's paying me.
35:27
I'm doing this altruistically. I really want to help this guy.
35:30
And I feel like I'm saving a life.
35:32
And I know my, my children are going to learn from this over
35:34
here. And it's a lesson that they'll
35:36
never forget. By the way, My, my, my, my, my
35:39
boys and my daughters who were who were around.
35:41
I had four kids at the time. They will never forget that we
35:46
all together and obviously I had my wife back back and stuff.
35:50
If your wife is not on board, forget about it.
35:52
Sure, you know, you could have your mother saying yeah, don't
35:54
do it. You know, but and my mother just
35:57
teach my mother. Lesson to your 4 kids.
35:59
I really teach you a lesson right now.
36:00
To me and Michael both sitting here and to anybody that's
36:02
listening, I'm like super inspired right now.
36:05
I think that you might not be so human after all.
36:09
Like there's something wrong with you.
36:10
You know so because. Us humans, like we are hardwired
36:14
to care about ourselves 1st and especially in a dangerous
36:17
situation, right, is where our natural reflex is the first just
36:20
take care of ourselves. So if we're like hanging on on a
36:23
Cliff or somebody next is hanging on a Cliff, like I'm
36:25
going to try to figure out how I survive, right?
36:28
My first instinct is in how do I help the next person survive,
36:31
right? If I'm in a dangerous situation
36:32
as well, that's how. And the plane tell you first put
36:36
on your mask and then yeah. Exactly, First for safety
36:38
reasons that makes sense to do it that way.
36:40
But when I think of donating a kidney I'm thinking 1st and wait
36:43
a second. Like what kind of harm is that
36:44
causing me if I'm going to be down one kidney?
36:48
Like I know that they say that, you know, you don't need 2
36:50
kidneys, you need just one. And if one fails, they both
36:53
fail. So it's not going to help you,
36:55
right? But but still fact is that it's
36:58
a. Do it under it's.
36:59
Difficult to do and they're opening you up.
37:01
Once they're cut, you open, all bets are off, all bets are off.
37:04
So it's a risk. It's still a.
37:05
Risk. It's definitely a risk.
37:06
And by the way, I went in life at risk thinking I'm not going
37:09
to wake up. By the way I didn't know I was
37:10
going to. I was like, forget it.
37:12
They're putting me out and I might not even wake up.
37:14
You told me I want to take it up a notch.
37:16
May I I want to up the ante a little go ahead.
37:19
I could understand and I could relate to you a little bit
37:21
better if it was for somebody you know and for somebody you
37:24
love that you're willing to take more risk.
37:26
Total stranger. But for a stranger, somebody
37:29
that you never met, to even take 1% risk for your own life is
37:34
wild. It's totally totally crazy.
37:36
So I'm like shocked right now. I'm all inspired by how you and
37:42
so quickly in a couple of weeks, this is all happening rapidly.
37:45
It's happening so quick, so fast.
37:47
Like who are you? What what kind of doesn't make
37:50
sense to me. I'm like, it doesn't make sense.
37:52
Where is this coming from? I just.
37:53
Want to add to that and I appreciate everything you're
37:56
saying. Was she he?
37:57
He keeps using the word we donated.
38:00
Who's the we? Who's the we?
38:02
Without the wife, you can't do it.
38:03
Without the wife, you can't do it.
38:04
That it's like it's, it's an effort of it's.
38:06
It's a it's a group effort. Yeah.
38:08
Yeah. And also I have involved and by
38:10
the way, my employees at the time who were working for me, if
38:14
they wouldn't be on board, being able to, to handle the business,
38:18
the printing that was going on at the time and the designs, you
38:23
know, I'm the boss, I'm running the show and I'm, I'm out.
38:26
I was out for five weeks. Wow.
38:29
You have to read. Yeah, recovery.
38:31
They say it's harder for the person giving the kidney, the
38:34
person receiving the kidney, it's a quicker recovery, pretty
38:37
quick, they say, right, So what? So you don't know this person
38:40
and you decide to go through with it.
38:42
Were you? Able to meet this person.
38:43
Before they are. They had the right before the
38:46
show, yeah. You're allowed to is that is
38:49
that. Yeah, you're.
38:50
No, I wanted to. I wanted to see him.
38:51
I give him a blessing and he. Gets to see you also how does
38:54
that if you don't mind yes to that process.
38:56
So interesting you said also that they make you call them.
38:59
They say we're not going to call you right because they you they
39:01
can't listen convincing. People, even if they give
39:03
kidneys, have to run after Yes, people have to have to
39:06
voluntarily on their own, yeah, call up and say.
39:09
And you say I want to know who the person is.
39:11
They don't tell you until the. Day they don't tell you, they
39:13
just told me a first name and I didn't know.
39:15
Did you know how old he was? Until he was 39.
39:18
You knew that, That they tell me, yeah.
39:19
They told me he was 39. Tell me if it's a man, they tell
39:21
you how old he is. They give you very basic.
39:23
Very basic details and they give you the option.
39:25
To meet him or are you? No, you cannot you usually they
39:27
they don't want you to meet because they don't want you to
39:29
have any regrets. You might you might have a
39:31
regret. I don't want you to meet and you
39:32
know what I did? I went on, I went on on Google
39:36
and I and I said, you know what Ronan kidney need kidney Thai
39:42
blood O and also I found the video that he posted years prior
39:48
from another organization in Israel very sneaky and I was
39:52
very I was petrified because there must have been something
39:55
wrong with the video and his head in the video.
40:00
The video was choppy. So he was like saying, and I was
40:07
like, I'm giving a do it kidney to wacko called the guy.
40:12
I remember it was a shot on a bike called the Guy, I said.
40:16
This guy's not know. He's like, don't worry, I
40:17
promise you he's a normal guy like the video must have been.
40:20
There was a glitch in the video. The reason why they don't want
40:23
you? Exactly, this is the reason they
40:25
don't want a chance of something happening that they they get lit
40:28
3rd and they change their mind. And by the way, my mother was,
40:32
she was totally scared. Naturally, my father was like,
40:36
yeah, go do it here, my father. Went against it.
40:40
No, no one was against it. I mean, they were afraid.
40:43
Renewal paid for my brother to come from Israel.
40:47
They paid his ticket to come support the beat, of course,
40:50
honest sense, which is very, very nice.
40:52
So he came. He was here for a week.
40:54
So the day of is the when you get to meet this Ronan.
40:57
The day of, right. And then, you know, as, as, as
40:59
things would have, would be, would be at that time for three
41:03
days before the surgery, we had a, a, a storm and all power.
41:10
We had no, no electricity. We had to actually move to a
41:13
hotel. I don't know if you remember
41:14
that in 2011, it was November, October, October.
41:18
Yeah, it was October 29th and it snowed and there were still
41:25
leaves on the tree, on the trees all over Muncie.
41:28
Trees started falling everywhere and power lines were down.
41:31
It was the most crazy time. And now you, where are you
41:36
going? My wife is like, if we're not
41:37
getting electricity, you're not doing it.
41:39
It's like, where are we going to be in a hotel and you're in, in
41:42
surgery, what am I doing with the kids and so on.
41:43
And so you know, it, it was difficult, but I thank God that
41:46
it came back on. But that was Shabbat.
41:48
And the thing was on Thursday, November 3rd.
41:52
You're in the hospital the first time you.
41:55
Met. What was that meeting like when
41:56
you met? Him.
41:57
The meeting was very emotional. The meeting was very emotional.
41:59
We met, they brought him into the room.
42:01
We were ready in our robes. And I have pictures.
42:04
I don't have it here. I actually have it on my phone.
42:05
I'll find it. Yeah, That's OK with you.
42:08
Yeah. And I met him.
42:10
We hugged and we cried and I gave him a Blaha belkhat
42:14
kohanim. And we just shared a few moments
42:18
and I wished him luck. I said let's him, you know, it
42:21
should go well. Were you nervous?
42:23
Were you scared? I don't think I was nervous, all
42:25
right. Like I said, you know, I was
42:26
walking in thinking that I'm going to not wake up from this
42:30
thing. I've never been put out before,
42:31
so I had no idea what to expect. I thought, you know, I was like,
42:35
goodbye. So you didn't like do a lot of
42:37
research as to what the risks are?
42:40
I did. You actually did Thinking of
42:42
soul searching. No, I knew that I'm doing the
42:45
right thing. I knew that I had two.
42:47
Weeks to decide to actually do it and then until you did it.
42:50
It was like a week. No, you're not going to from
42:51
August till till November 3rd, 2011.
42:54
November 3rd was was the. Was the actual procedure.
42:57
Yeah, exactly. And I had time to think about
42:59
it, of course. Yeah, but it took you very
43:01
little time to say I want to do it.
43:03
Right. And there's like, I met my wife.
43:05
How long did it take for me to decide to marry home?
43:07
That was the right thing to do and this was the right thing to
43:10
do. I know I'm saving a guy's life
43:12
and I'm like, it's not for that. By the way, I don't know how
43:14
many people actually could live for 17 years on dialysis.
43:18
You look at the people, maybe 10 years. 12.
43:23
Years tops. This guy did dialysis.
43:25
A different type of dialysis. Which?
43:26
Was he was very young, this guy his.
43:29
Whole life since he's 14 years old, by the way, he's been
43:31
suffering from kidney disease. Wow, he really didn't have a
43:35
life. Was he married at the time of
43:36
this guy? He was single and he got married
43:39
a few years afterwards and and he had a child, only one child
43:44
and she's four years old now. Cutest thing?
43:48
Do you have a relationship with him now?
43:49
Till today? Yeah.
43:50
Yeah. Like you guys are close.
43:51
You stay. Close we we can visit each other
43:53
once. I mean, you have a piece of
43:54
yourself inside of him. Yeah, yeah.
43:56
I feel I feel like you know, his he's married, but for his wife
44:00
is is is is is is, you know, incredible for wanting to marry
44:05
a guy who has a time bomb. You know there's a limit and
44:10
where. His He can't have a regular,
44:12
healthy, long life. He has a regular, healthy life.
44:15
Thank God. He's great and but at some point
44:19
it might it might stop. You don't know.
44:22
How long can this kidney last for I?
44:24
Don't What usually happens when somebody gets a kidney?
44:26
That's it. By the way, he would not be able
44:27
to get to get another transplant after that because he has he has
44:31
two of his own failed, then he has the cadaver and then he has
44:33
wife. He has four kidneys 3 three are
44:35
like 3 little things that are not functioning in his.
44:38
Body The average person that gets a kidney does it do they
44:41
have do they end up having normal lives?
44:43
They, oh, they, they definitely has a normal life.
44:45
Not normal. Life say they can live long.
44:46
They can like they can. Live.
44:47
I don't know how long it lasts. You know, Michael, you know, you
44:50
and I, by the way, should both just leave this room.
44:52
We're parable people. We're really bad people.
44:56
First training order. Yes, Sir.
44:58
You have a restraining order. OK.
45:00
I. Went to help somebody.
45:02
Yeah, Toma, it's just this is wild.
45:05
This is like, I hope you can appreciate that a lot of people
45:08
listening are going to feel bad about themselves as well,
45:11
because I don't know if I have it in me.
45:12
I don't know how many people have it in them.
45:14
I don't know. I don't.
45:14
Know if I had it in me? Somebody showed me something.
45:17
My name is Toma and it's the same.
45:20
If you boggle the letters, it's to him.
45:22
Donor. That was very, you know.
45:27
Always a nice one of those. Do you feel any different at
45:31
all? I was going to say no 00.
45:35
Like you have the same strength, the same energy.
45:37
Strength, same energy, more energy.
45:40
I'm, you know, always positive forward thinking so.
45:43
Are you at risk for anything in the future because the fact that
45:46
you only have one kidney now or you have the same like your
45:49
status quo was if it was bad? Quo if nothing really changed.
45:52
I mean, they only told me maintain your health, you lose
45:56
weight, you know, keep keep fit. So we're doing that.
45:59
Thank God. OK.
45:59
And you look great. Thank you very much.
46:02
And. Wow, what?
46:04
Save one life, save the world, right?
46:07
Isn't that what they say? Save one life, save the world.
46:09
You did that. You literally did that.
46:13
A guy like this has one place to go.
46:15
Only heaven, I hope. I mean you hope you're better.
46:19
Otherwise we're all out of luck here.
46:21
Get your. Pace, I'm grabbing onto his.
46:24
Oh my God, that's that's intense.
46:27
Anyway, so Fast forward, Fast forward, you know, so we got, we
46:30
got the COVID. There was nothing.
46:34
No, we're. Going back to your life.
46:35
Story Yeah, yeah, we're going back still.
46:37
We're going back, we'll go back. I'm back, I'm back.
46:39
Throw them. Back he's like yeah, OK, let's
46:40
move on. OK so that was my so I did
46:42
yesterday. Let me tell you about.
46:43
Let me talk about tomorrow. Go ahead.
46:46
Yeah. Came COVID and there there was
46:49
literally no work, nothing to do.
46:53
We were like 3 weeks before Pesach and.
46:56
No events. There's everything, there's no
46:58
events. Everybody, you know, all night,
47:01
my client that were doing their events.
47:03
Pesach, usually Pesach is, is, is a busy time because you're
47:05
doing, you know, printing for the, the, the programs and so on
47:10
and so forth. And everybody shut down and I
47:14
was there's what the, what the Shabbat, I lit a candle.
47:19
It was 12/30 at night. I lit a candle for Eliao Navi 1
47:23
candle. I never did that before.
47:26
And I just sat there and I said, God, please give me something.
47:31
We need, we need to do something.
47:34
I, you know, Pesach is coming and I just have no means.
47:40
And then I said, OK, well, after you pray, you need to do some
47:44
form of, he said, look, you need to do some form of, of, of, you
47:48
know, taking a step forward towards an act, an act.
47:52
So I looked online at some gadgets that could be
47:56
appropriate for COVID. I saw a a, a pouch that would be
48:01
appropriate for nursing homes or be appropriate for landlords to
48:07
give out to their tenants, to give out to the to the people.
48:12
What what from the pouch? The pouch would have your logos
48:15
put on it. And inside the pouch was a glove
48:17
with the kit. A kit.
48:19
OK, well I'm saying they call it.
48:21
Glove a mask. Yeah, had had a few things in
48:23
there, you know, sanitizer, COVID.
48:26
Kit beautiful and have your logo on it and it could have your.
48:28
Logo on it, so that's great. Fine, perfect.
48:30
I posted that first time in my life that I posted anything on
48:34
the status at 1:00 AM, I receive a response from there from a
48:42
friend in Lakewood. And he says to me, Tomer, can
48:46
you get me masks? I said, what kind of masks?
48:50
He's like, you know, the, the blue, the blue masks.
48:53
I said, first of all, I said, yes, of course I can because
48:55
it's not going to be a no, I could get you masks.
48:58
And it's actually fascinating. So he told me that his wife is
49:01
the purchasing director for 30 nursing homes and they're
49:06
desperately looking for masks. How much do they need 350,000
49:11
masks? And I'm like, OK, so let me find
49:13
out. I'll get back to you in a few
49:14
minutes. Luckily they're ready for for
49:18
over a year. I've had a relationship with a
49:22
with some lady and I've never met her, but her name is Skye
49:25
Chen in in China. And I was buying promotional
49:30
items from her. So we had a relationship.
49:32
So I texted her right through WeChat and she said, yeah, I
49:35
could get you masks. She sent me a picture, send me
49:38
the price. I sent it to them.
49:40
By the time the morning came, they put the order through and
49:45
I'm like, OK, you know what, maybe I should buy a little
49:47
more. So I bought a half a million
49:48
masks and then a few other people bought for me at that
49:53
time. And the biggest challenge was
49:57
how are you paying for this? Because I didn't have any money
49:59
to pay for it. I needed almost 200 K to fork it
50:03
that that company said they're going to put the money in escrow
50:08
by Madison title. And a very good friend stepped
50:13
up to the plate and he said, Tomer, I really want to help
50:16
you. I'm don't want to make any money
50:19
on this. And I'm going to lend you this
50:22
money. I'm going to pay for the order.
50:26
And the good thing is that in his line of business, he knows
50:30
Madison title and he knows who they are.
50:33
And everybody just knew each other.
50:35
So there was a trust factor over here and he made sure that the
50:39
mask was approved and everything was good.
50:42
And luckily he he, he took every step.
50:46
He was so involved in every step.
50:49
Even with the shipping. Now, how are you going to ship
50:52
stuff over here? I don't even know how to ship
50:54
anything. Two months before COVID started,
50:57
I got a phone call from some Italian lady and she said, yeah,
51:02
we do shipping from China. I'm like, I don't do shipping
51:04
for you. I'm like this liaison in China,
51:06
the sky lady, She does all the shipping for me.
51:08
Like I'll just meet with you. I said, you know, OK, meet me on
51:12
the way. When are you going to be in
51:13
Muncie? She's like on Friday.
51:14
I'm going to be in Muncie. And I was just on the way back
51:16
from Brooklyn at 12 O 5. She called me.
51:18
She's like, I'm in your in your driver.
51:19
I'm like, I'm I'll be there. We met for a minute.
51:22
She gave me a business card and a pen and that was it.
51:25
And then that's who I used to actually bring all the goods in.
51:29
And it was like unbelievable that Shannon already set
51:31
everything up months before we had it all.
51:34
It was moving pieces on the top. Moving the pieces and and
51:38
because of our friends involvement in knowing
51:40
everything every step of the every detail to the tea.
51:45
And then my father passed away a few days before this shipment
51:49
was supposed to come and arrive, and he handled everything from
51:52
there and I got a paycheck. I made like 100K from that
51:56
order. Wow it.
51:57
Was ridiculous. And then and I'll tell you, I'll
52:01
tell you another thing that happened.
52:03
So you did a lot of these types of deals.
52:05
We did. We did so then then I started
52:07
the whole COVID PPE stuff. I didn't even.
52:10
Evolve During that time I was. Yeah, I got very involved and
52:13
and Michael, you started buying stuff for me.
52:15
I sold you a bunch of things. And I don't know if you know the
52:19
story, but you, you had a guy Yankee.
52:21
I don't even know his last name. I haven't.
52:23
I haven't saved Yankee masks. Maybe you have 100 people on my
52:27
phone. Anki mask, slammy mask, Ellie
52:29
masks. Oh God.
52:31
Anyway, at along with this shipment, I decided to order
52:36
15,000 gallons and they were very cheap quality like 25
52:42
grams. There was nothing, it was a joke
52:44
and you're you're a Yankee guy. I mentioned it to him or you
52:48
mentioned it to him and and you said you're going to sell it to
52:50
him for. I was going to sell it to him
52:52
for 350 each. OK, He's like, I'll take them
52:56
all. We need it great.
52:58
And I'm happy. And then you're going to be
53:03
you're going to be wowed by the story because you don't even
53:05
know. And I just got up from from
53:09
Shiva and a good friend of mine from Lakewood, he says to me,
53:13
Tomer, I heard you have gowns coming in.
53:16
Can I buy them or I'm like, no, they're already sold.
53:18
He's like, what are you selling them for like 350?
53:19
He's like, I'll give you 650. I'm like, OK, Yankee, I've just
53:27
got offered a whole lot more for these things.
53:29
He says to me, don't worry, don't do this to me.
53:30
He's like, I already have it. However, you guys were set up
53:33
already to sell it to another, another nursing home that needed
53:37
them. He's like, you gave me your
53:39
word. I don't you can give me a
53:40
deposit. So we hung up.
53:44
He was a little upset. And then I sat there and I
53:47
thought, I'm like, I literally just got up from Shiva.
53:50
What would my father do? And I thought deep down, I went
53:55
deep down to my soul and I said my father would not beg.
53:58
He would not renege on his word. And I called Yankee and I told
54:01
Yankee, it's yours. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm forgiving
54:05
for going. It was it was a tremendous
54:07
amount. Double the money and.
54:08
I needed it so, and you know what happened a week later you
54:12
ordered for me and I made more than I would have made or had I
54:15
sold you the the had I sold the guns to the to the to the, I
54:18
mean. The additional orders.
54:19
Exactly because you you ordered money.
54:20
You didn't. Burn a bridge and a PayPal for
54:22
you. Exactly, and it didn't take a
54:24
long time to see that COVID. NPB.
54:27
Was crazy. That was a madness, Michael.
54:29
That was madness that time and everybody was selling or buying
54:32
at that point. People get tested.
54:34
Yeah, that's crazy. To me, for me, it was a tense,
54:37
Yeah, No, no, no, I'm not saying this, this, this.
54:41
This, this particular incident, Yeah, of course.
54:43
How much volume did he do through PP?
54:44
It was like crazy amount a lot. I like I did a. 200,000 I mean,
54:49
I imagine it was a little crazy. By the way, it didn't evade me
54:53
that the purchase was 200 K. He made 100K.
54:56
He say. That sounds like a 50% margin to
54:58
me. That's amazing.
55:00
So you did this thing during COVID, which probably a lot of
55:03
people did, and thank God. I think it's amazing that the
55:05
private sector got involved because the government totally
55:09
dropped the ball on this. Nobody had anything.
55:12
It was wild. People have to step up, give.
55:15
Her a mess for the the the three M that was ridiculous.
55:18
But anyway. People has to have supplies,
55:20
yeah. So what happens next?
55:23
So, So what? Happened over and printing.
55:28
I I just kept doing for select clients.
55:31
I was doing the, you know, servicing them because they
55:33
were, you know, they're like, we don't I don't know where to go.
55:35
We don't know what to do. OK, fine.
55:37
I'll do it for you today. Keep, keep myself a little busy.
55:40
And then this was a little over two years ago.
55:43
And we're sitting, it was Sunday morning.
55:45
I'm in shul, and a guy turns around one of the spy women in
55:51
the Spartak shul, and he says, you know, I've been looking for
55:53
an apartment in Tavaria for over three years.
55:57
I just can't make up my mind. I can't buy anything.
55:59
He's like, I don't know why I can't seem to find anything.
56:01
I don't what's the big deal? I'll find you an an apartment
56:04
are. We getting to the real estate
56:06
stuff now we are Hallelujah, we get it, Hallelujah.
56:09
I was waiting for that. Are you wanting to do this real
56:11
estate ask Tomer business start? I'm waiting for this point and
56:15
we're up to this point we made. It took us in the two hours to
56:17
get here, but here we are, OK. Honey, by the way, are we?
56:20
Zoom in on Do you zoom in on this over here?
56:22
Could you do this? Over Well, there it is.
56:24
Asked Homer. Asked Homer.
56:24
It's. Just funny, like, you know
56:25
everything through his life, you know?
56:27
Oh, you need a kidney? I got.
56:28
You. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:30
I. Unbelievable.
56:33
He's a yes man, yes man. He's a yes man.
56:35
Lesson learned, by the way, literally teachable moment.
56:38
You know how we used to do these teachable moments?
56:39
Teachable not be the. Yes, be the yes guy, you're
56:42
missing out on life. Otherwise the fake you're
56:44
missing out on things 100%. Oh.
56:46
You know, don't be negative, be positive.
56:48
Be positive, always positive. You're like I got.
56:50
You. Yeah.
56:52
So I said I I I'll, I'll find you an apartment.
56:54
It was a big deal. I made a phone call.
56:56
He's a friend, and he connected me with a broker over there and
56:59
he showed me an apartment. That guy literally fell in love
57:03
with it. I was like, OK, what do we do
57:06
next? I got a call that same day.
57:09
It was Sunday afternoon. I got a call from a friend.
57:13
He tells me, listen, there's an attorney from Israel over here
57:16
and he wants to meet with you because you're always making
57:18
parties, always making events. He wants you to do like a host a
57:21
home gathering and meet up with him.
57:24
So I said, OK, give me his number.
57:26
I'm like, this is great. We met on Monday morning in my
57:31
house and I was very, I was like, OK, by the way, I have a
57:34
guy who's on the fence over here to, you know, he wants to see I
57:38
I found an apartment. We're going to need an attorney.
57:40
He's like, great. OK, I know I want to learn more
57:42
about this. Where where can I?
57:43
He's like, well, we're doing a we have an event that an Israel
57:47
Expo in Great Neck. I can I come, you know, Yeah,
57:51
it's free. Come, I went there, I drove in,
57:53
I thought, you know what? I think we should, I think I
57:55
should go, I think I should go. I went there and I met the
57:57
mortgage broker and I met the guy who could do the power of
57:59
attorney and I met so many developers and over there, it's
58:02
like a little mini conference guys in two weeks.
58:05
This guy was under contract and I was like, hold on, this was
58:09
very easy. And why don't I create a, a, a
58:14
platform to help Americans buy apartments in Israel?
58:18
And then I started advertising it and started telling, you
58:23
know, instead of hounding guys and you know, one person, I'm
58:25
like, I'm thinking that this guy is going to be the one and he's
58:27
going to buy and buy, you know, and, and they just spiraled,
58:32
spiraled and the asked Homer brand came into existence.
58:37
Now I used to just write, ask and then Tomer.
58:40
If you want to know something, ask Tomer.
58:42
Black ink, no inspiration, no nothing.
58:46
I was just putting out like tips on how to buy and I was suturing
58:49
on the Internet and so on and so forth.
58:50
And thank God we closed with that.
58:52
It was that and I set him up with Airbnb so that he can make
58:56
money on his very a purchase for $550,000 whatever it was.
59:01
And he, he was making money. He was so happy and he's still
59:05
happy and he bought another apartment.
59:06
By the way, I have a few guys that are repeat clients.
59:10
For themselves, they're buying, yeah.
59:13
Just to have. Just to have because.
59:15
And they rent it out. They'll rent it out.
59:17
Real estate in Israel is always profitable, is always a
59:21
blessing, and you can never go wrong.
59:24
When you're buying an apartment in Israel or a house or a villa
59:27
or whatever it is, you could never go wrong.
59:29
In the whole country. In the whole country.
59:31
There's no bad parts. There's no, but no, there's no
59:33
bad parts. Because there's all going out.
59:34
It's. Always going up.
59:35
Go look in the history. Go Google, Stefan, Google.
59:38
Did Israel's real estate ever go down?
59:40
No. To stabilize at some point, yes.
59:43
Is it going to continue going up?
59:45
Yes, do. You know how he knows?
59:46
He asked Tomer. So.
59:48
This is what you're doing now, full SO.
59:50
Now we're doing that full time. I have to tell you, you took
59:52
your energy of, Asked Tomer. And he took his marketing
59:56
background, his printing knowledge, and he went crazy.
1:00:01
Crazy. Let me tell you how crazy he
1:00:03
went. First of all.
1:00:04
Show us the sign that you have behind you the Asked tomer.com.
1:00:07
He made this into a sticker. OK, this sticker that you see
1:00:10
your asked tomer.com. I'm not, I'm not kidding, Ring,
1:00:13
I want you to know. OK, all right, that's enough.
1:00:15
That's enough. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:16
Put it away, Put it away. I want you to know that I was
1:00:21
davening at the Kotel and my son looks at me and he goes, asked
1:00:25
albert.com sticker on the Kotel. I'm like, what?
1:00:29
Are you kidding? It's all over the place.
1:00:30
I was in a bathroom in hebronaskedalbert.com Your name
1:00:36
is all over the place and it's just amazing what you've been
1:00:39
doing and how. You How many apartments have you
1:00:41
brokered in the last couple of years?
1:00:44
Over 20. Wow.
1:00:45
Yeah, that's amazing. That's pretty good.
1:00:48
Incredible. Yeah, Yeah, very good.
1:00:50
How does it work? If I want to get an apartment
1:00:53
tomorrow, buy a house in Israel, is it similar to how it works
1:00:56
over here as far as very different the mortgage as far as
1:00:58
the percent you have to put that like is is it easy to get a loan
1:01:03
over there? Like how does it work?
1:01:04
OK, so first thing, first thing is identify the property.
1:01:08
Are you going into a development where you would help me with
1:01:11
that of? Course, I say, look, I want to
1:01:12
buy a home in Israel. I want to, you know, have a
1:01:16
vacation home there. I don't know what to do.
1:01:19
I don't know where to get started.
1:01:20
I call you. What's the first thing you do
1:01:21
for me? First thing, first thing is I'll
1:01:23
ask you, do you know where you want to go?
1:01:26
No. OK.
1:01:26
You don't know most people and or not know where they want to
1:01:30
go. No, OK unless they know, unless
1:01:32
the guy is like I want to go to Bechamage or I want to go to
1:01:34
Jerusalem. I know very little at.
1:01:35
All it's very good. I've been there 2-3 times in my
1:01:37
life. Second question in our land I'd.
1:01:38
Love to get a house there one day.
1:01:40
Well, if I'm interested, well, what do you?
1:01:41
Second question I'll ask you is what is your budget?
1:01:44
Is it half $1,000,000? Is it $2,000,000?
1:01:46
Is it 5? OK, you'll have guys that I had
1:01:49
a guy I just met now on vacation and he says to me his father
1:01:51
wants to buy a nine bedroom apartment.
1:01:55
Now, if you if you know what that means, you're looking,
1:01:58
you're looking at $10 million by no.
1:01:59
No, that's. If I could afford it.
1:02:01
Let's say my budget's good 100,000.
1:02:02
OK, so if you have 500,000 so then I'll I'll tell you by the
1:02:05
way, Jerusalem is a nice. Apartment in Gaza, yeah.
1:02:10
You could you could start Subway either if you want Jerusalem for
1:02:14
a half $1,000,000. I told you could donate it to
1:02:16
the mirror and they'll put a plaque over the bathroom.
1:02:17
No, no, no, I donate it. I want Jerusalem.
1:02:20
I want an Israel somewhere. Yeah, you tell me about SO.
1:02:24
I will tell you, I think I'm sorry, one of the questions that
1:02:26
you need to ask is why? Because I want to be able to go
1:02:30
to Israel and have my own place. So you want it to be anywhere?
1:02:35
I don't know exactly. So the first you want to be
1:02:37
Trump? You want Why do you want to buy
1:02:39
an apartment? Is it an emotional buy which it
1:02:42
99% is in my opinion, get to that, you know, because although
1:02:46
the property value 100%, I agree with you, Tomer does go up in
1:02:50
value. I've done the study and invested
1:02:52
in Israel. It goes up in value equity wise,
1:02:55
but you're not profiting on a yearly basis, so it's not a
1:02:59
great investment. As far as a return on your
1:03:02
investment in every single property you buy in Israel.
1:03:04
There are plenty of investments that you could buy in Israel,
1:03:06
don't get me wrong, but not everywhere.
1:03:08
You have to say I want to buy an apartment in Israel.
1:03:09
Let me just buy something, I'll make money.
1:03:11
So why do you want to buy an apartment in Israel?
1:03:13
I love? Israel, I think it's a beautiful
1:03:15
country and I want to be able to go a little bit more, you know,
1:03:19
now that I'm getting older and I want to have a place where where
1:03:21
I can go. You know, around Jerusalem.
1:03:23
Then sure, it doesn't have to be.
1:03:25
In or around? Within an hour drive to
1:03:27
Jerusalem. Within a 5 minute drive to
1:03:29
Jerusalem. I have a setting of where to.
1:03:30
Go. Now we have a setting.
1:03:31
Yeah, exactly. An American area.
1:03:33
I'd love to have something a little bit more modernized,
1:03:35
something more Western like. Right, right.
1:03:38
Right, so. Is there?
1:03:39
Projects, they're definitely, definitely project with
1:03:42
American. I mean, I wouldn't tell you.
1:03:43
I wouldn't send you to bet your machine anymore.
1:03:45
I would tell you. The beautiful things go further
1:03:47
out put down a down payment. There's a very popular
1:03:50
development strategy that someone who's buying an
1:03:53
apartment in Israel. Sorry, you can ask Michael also.
1:03:55
I have some answers. We'll get back to that.
1:03:58
Thing is that, you know, you could put 10% down and then over
1:04:02
the course of the next two years or sometimes 3 as it's being
1:04:05
developed, you give up to 30% more and then you get a mortgage
1:04:08
of 50%. That's a common.
1:04:10
But but let's assume that I find a place and I guess you're going
1:04:13
to start showing me pictures, right?
1:04:14
You're going to start, I'm not going to actually have to go
1:04:16
down there and I find a place and I like it and I say tell him
1:04:19
I want to buy this. OK, it's in my budgets,
1:04:22
$500,000. That's a great location.
1:04:25
House seems great. I want to buy it.
1:04:26
What? What happens next?
1:04:28
Registration form deposit. Registration.
1:04:31
Form. There's a registration form
1:04:33
again we're. Talking.
1:04:35
Yeah, you know, you're not a citizen, so you're you're not
1:04:36
going through the process of a, a, an existing home or we're
1:04:41
talking about a development. So developments, you have a
1:04:43
developer and they they need you to do it.
1:04:46
Tofis al Shamma. That's the registration form.
1:04:48
You'll fill it out. Give us your passport, give me
1:04:50
your license, and then I get the I get the ball rolling.
1:04:54
When is the clarity you're talking about a?
1:04:56
Development that takes a little years.
1:04:57
That's right. Under construction, under right?
1:04:58
Not a purchase. Or let's.
1:05:00
Talk about a house immediate purchase.
1:05:01
There, yes, immediate. OK, Yeah, yeah, whatever,
1:05:04
whatever it is. But let's say if it's an
1:05:06
immediate purchase, immediate. What I do is, is send your
1:05:10
passport. I will provide you with the
1:05:13
attorney. I'll provide you with the power
1:05:15
of attorney and the mortgage broker should you need a
1:05:17
mortgage. I need a mortgage, yes.
1:05:20
You're gonna need a mortgage. There how do I get a mortgage?
1:05:21
I have no credit in Israel. They don't know.
1:05:23
I'll tell you about that. It's very easy.
1:05:26
Once, once you sign a, an, an agreement, we get you the, the
1:05:31
power of attorney, the documents, basically you're
1:05:33
allowing the attorney to sign on your behalf because you're not
1:05:37
going there. It does great.
1:05:38
We have that they schedule a signing of the contract and you
1:05:41
need to get a mortgage. What, what does it entail?
1:05:44
Well, you need 2 years of tax returns, American tax, American
1:05:49
tax returns. The banks look at your income
1:05:52
only. They don't look at your expenses
1:05:55
as they do over here, so. They just look at my income.
1:05:58
They just look at your income. They don't care about how much
1:06:00
expenses I have. They don't care.
1:06:02
Because I can be in the red, I could be spending more than I'm
1:06:05
earning. They don't, they don't, they
1:06:06
don't care. They want, they need three
1:06:08
months of bank statements. They want to see your credit
1:06:09
score really just to see that you're a man, so.
1:06:11
Our credit score here matters there.
1:06:12
Are they? Yeah, they're just looking to
1:06:14
see that you have above 650. OK.
1:06:16
They don't have their own credit scoring system over there.
1:06:18
They. Don't know in Israel no really.
1:06:20
And and once you provide that that documentation, I know it
1:06:23
sounds funny. You're like, OK, but it's easy
1:06:25
to get a loan and I was very answered here in America are
1:06:28
much greater than the the Israelis.
1:06:31
So there's Israelis are struggling to get a mortgage.
1:06:33
What? What type of percent is the bank
1:06:35
offering? Bank gives you by default 50%.
1:06:37
It's easy, you'll get 50%. They give me 50%. 50% mortgage
1:06:41
so you have to put down 50 if you that means you're putting
1:06:44
down OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. And you gotta, you gotta.
1:06:47
Understand why the banks are a little more legal amount that
1:06:49
I'm putting down exactly the reason why they're a little more
1:06:51
lenient is a few reasons why I think they're a little more
1:06:53
lenient and. 1020%, right. Well, it's 50% you put down.
1:06:57
You'll tell me what you think about this thought process,
1:07:00
because I thought about this a lot.
1:07:01
The reason why they're more lenient about approving you for
1:07:04
a loan is because a, they're only giving you 50%.
1:07:07
There are ways, yeah, there are ways to get an extra 10 or an
1:07:10
extra 20 as a secondary mortgage.
1:07:13
That's number one. Number two is they know the
1:07:15
value in Israel keeps going up, so they know the equity of the.
1:07:19
Leverage on the property. They need to take it back.
1:07:21
They also don't have American rules where if you don't pay
1:07:23
your mortgage, you're at. It's not New York City, you get
1:07:25
a tenant out in like 19 years. Exactly.
1:07:28
And the lastly is interestingly enough, everyone has to take a
1:07:31
life insurance policy and mortgage insurance.
1:07:34
Mortgage insurance? That means the guy croaks.
1:07:37
And the bank is like, OK, well, we, we're, we're going to.
1:07:40
They don't have problems with trusts and challenges with, you
1:07:43
know, family. Fight what?
1:07:44
Kind of interest rates is going on over there in Israel. 5
1:07:47
percent, 6% depending on the time.
1:07:48
Over here, similar, yeah, a little bit lower actually here
1:07:52
now. Yeah.
1:07:53
And, and you, you get approved in like 3-4 days.
1:07:56
It's like that, you're done, you get the approval, we got the
1:08:00
process going. We give the power of attorney to
1:08:02
the to the mortgage guy. We give the power of attorney to
1:08:05
the attorney. He signs on your thing and
1:08:07
obviously we have to transfer funds to Israel.
1:08:09
So we use the Forex system to transfer the funds and we
1:08:16
simplified. Nice.
1:08:17
The whole let's not have. This place right now in Israel,
1:08:20
where are the young people going?
1:08:23
What's it this Gaza business, Mike?
1:08:24
It's awesome. You and Trump, you're trying to
1:08:27
you're trying to get Gaza. Going over there, yeah, but
1:08:28
it's. Going to take some time but
1:08:30
before then you've got the young couples are going to first of
1:08:34
all hottest place usual I'm Tel Aviv.
1:08:37
For the the non religious you have Tel Aviv, the religions you
1:08:40
have. Well, Tel Aviv is one of the
1:08:41
most expensive real estates in the world, by the way.
1:08:43
Top ten. Yeah, yeah.
1:08:45
OK, so not everybody's going to Tel.
1:08:46
Aviv, Yeah, We're not going to Tel Aviv.
1:08:47
Service like the practical places.
1:08:49
Practical places would the affordable places would be in
1:08:53
Mitch Hamish. That would be your first choice
1:08:55
to go after ritual I'm. How far is that from Jerusalem?
1:08:59
25 minutes roughly, OK, OK. And then there's surrounding
1:09:02
neighborhoods and areas that even 20 minutes from from
1:09:07
Bachemis, you have a place called Carmay got for four 55106
1:09:12
hundred. You can get a beautiful
1:09:13
apartment and an all Anglo area you know, or you go a little up
1:09:19
north. Yeah, definitely. 20 minutes to
1:09:22
30 minutes away from Jerusalem, the prices go down.
1:09:25
I think if you want to educate the listeners, it'll be a fun
1:09:29
fact of how it works per square meter.
1:09:31
So you have the pricing per square meter.
1:09:34
Generally an apartment which is 100 square meters, think of it
1:09:36
as 1000 square feet as an apartment, right?
1:09:38
So it's a 2 bedroom apartment, 100 square meters, right, right.
1:09:41
So the price per square meter in Jerusalem is 45 to 75,000.
1:09:50
Go up a little, Yeah, Go up to 90.
1:09:52
Well, maybe on new developments, you mean?
1:09:54
Yeah, on new stuff. That's scary, by the way.
1:09:56
It is so high, but it's it's very expensive.
1:09:59
And when you go 20-30 minutes out, it's half that.
1:10:01
So you, you know, there's a tremendous advantage of going 20
1:10:04
minutes out if you're OK with that.
1:10:06
I personally. If I'm the average, you know,
1:10:09
middle-aged American, kind of comfortable here, but.
1:10:12
You are there. Those both those things are
1:10:15
true. Do you recommend that we start
1:10:19
looking seriously into buying as like what's the benefit?
1:10:22
Like sell me on it? What what do you tell the
1:10:25
typical person like you got to buy a house or an apartment
1:10:27
Israel. Here's why.
1:10:28
So one thing is I, I, I never go with the tactic of, Oh my gosh,
1:10:31
America is going to blow up and you have to have a place to run.
1:10:34
Please don't know because you lose me if you do they.
1:10:36
Exactly. You're buying because you have a
1:10:39
lot of the land and you're buying because there's also a
1:10:42
mitzvah to buy. And I know you might say, oh,
1:10:45
there's other mitzvahs I haven't done yet.
1:10:46
OK, fine. Is that?
1:10:47
True, it's a mitzvah to buy property in Israel.
1:10:49
In Israel, it's one of. The 613 commandments.
1:10:52
Israel, Yeah. I don't know if it's one of the
1:10:55
613. No, it's.
1:10:56
No, it's. When there's maybe when there's
1:10:57
the best time, it does, yeah. Well, there's the mitzvahs are
1:10:59
taking steps in Israel even. I mean, so that in itself is a,
1:11:02
yeah. Right.
1:11:04
I want to take 613, but then fact of issue of has and you're
1:11:09
going to you're going to want to have a part and a piece of the
1:11:12
land. Then you have the skeptics and
1:11:14
they'll tell you, well, you know they're going to be giving away
1:11:16
all the land when Mushiya comes and I'll wait for Mashiac to
1:11:20
come. I'll much.
1:11:20
You have to stop paying your mortgage #1 and in my humble
1:11:23
opinion, when what have. To come Mashiac comes real
1:11:25
estate people triple. Exactly the people that are.
1:11:28
Waiting for Mashiac to come. I'll wait for that.
1:11:31
Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Because like if Mashiac is just
1:11:34
giving away properties, like what about the people that
1:11:36
already own over there? Like they lose their houses.
1:11:38
Exactly. They lose their house.
1:11:39
That doesn't add up. And then and then what about and
1:11:42
then you have those guys. And then I had a, he tells me,
1:11:48
you know, remember, you want to start a Mashiac fund.
1:11:51
When, when Mashiac comes, where are you going to have money to
1:11:53
pay for all the people that are getting up?
1:11:55
They're going to need clothing or they need food.
1:11:57
OK, So I had one guy, he says to me, you know what, What's going
1:12:01
to happen with Riv Steinman when he gets up?
1:12:03
And, and Riv Heimkaneski, they got up.
1:12:05
They're going to need a they're going to need a house because
1:12:06
they sold their house already. It's not existing.
1:12:08
So I own 5. Apartments.
1:12:10
They're going to tell me, Oh well, Sir, Sir, you're going to
1:12:12
have to give one apartment to the rabbi, and I'm not going to
1:12:13
give the rabbi, so I'm going to lose like a moron.
1:12:17
Give the rabbi. You say we get, you know, I
1:12:22
don't know. I don't know.
1:12:23
I don't know if I'm giving away my apartment to a rabbi.
1:12:25
I'm struggling with life here in real time.
1:12:28
I'm not worried about what's going to happen after the fact.
1:12:30
I think I said it earlier, it's a very emotional buy in general.
1:12:33
You're connected to the country, the Holy Land and believe in the
1:12:35
process of of the mitzvah and and waiting for Mashiach.
1:12:39
Why wait? You know, you know.
1:12:41
And I met a guy on a plane and I said then would you want to
1:12:45
consider, you know, would you consider buying an apartment?
1:12:47
He's like, I'm about to sign this contract already.
1:12:49
Well I have 4 apartments and I'm buying.
1:12:51
These do it as investments. That they do I.
1:12:53
Think the message I would like to say is that you have to be
1:12:56
able to afford it obviously and you have to be able to afford to
1:12:59
not make money on that apartment.
1:13:01
It's not something that like you.
1:13:02
Know because the rental I can. Say is, ask Tomer.
1:13:06
Come ask tomer.com. Tomer, we're.
1:13:08
We're going to wrap it. We're going to wrap it.
1:13:10
We've. Got to wrap up.
1:13:10
Yeah, in. In, in just a second, you know,
1:13:15
we, we have a tradition of going through a lightning round.
1:13:18
But I, I will tell you that I think that this entire podcast
1:13:21
was a lightning round and everything you said and so much
1:13:24
we learnt and it was so beautiful.
1:13:25
So I'm just going to end with asking you honestly, who would
1:13:28
you recommend as a good guest on the podcast?
1:13:31
And I have to ask you, Rabbi Mansour, I mean you mentioned
1:13:35
his name a few times and. He he, he is.
1:13:37
He is our family rabbi. He is my rabbi.
1:13:40
He is my role model. Am I allowed to offer someone up
1:13:44
for you? Is that something that's normal?
1:13:46
I mean, like, I don't know actually, can I do that?
1:13:47
I don't know if that's in the rules of the None of Your
1:13:49
Business podcast. The rules are what?
1:13:51
We make them to be. I want you to get rubbed by
1:13:53
Monsieur. That's the.
1:13:54
Rules. I think it would be fantastic.
1:13:56
I. I We're the dictators of this
1:13:58
show. But I, I could bring another
1:14:00
student of his on here and I'd love to call him.
1:14:06
Who's that? His name is Meyer Safdie.
1:14:08
And he has an organization called care, Care for special
1:14:11
children, autistic children And his he opened up the
1:14:16
organization, him and his wife, they have two autistic children
1:14:19
and they struggled with them for years, not knowing which schools
1:14:23
to put them through and what benefits they could get from the
1:14:25
government. And he opened up that
1:14:30
organization to help other. Enough said.
1:14:33
Get him on the phone. Get him on the phone.
1:14:35
I love it. Well, Meyer, how are you?
1:14:36
It's nice to meet you. We asked Homer after the after
1:14:39
the podcast, like we asked all of our guests who's someone that
1:14:42
you would recommend that would benefit and that we can grow
1:14:44
with and can share their story And he mentioned you.
1:14:47
So it's nice to meet you. First of all, I understand that
1:14:49
you're on vacation. Yes, we're on vacation.
1:14:52
The first thing that I love that you said, you said you asked
1:14:55
Tomer. Ask Tomer, you started.
1:14:59
Off with the right words, you asked Tomer.
1:15:01
So you're one for one off the back Second of all, I actually
1:15:05
I've I've met several times with I guess it's your brother David.
1:15:08
Yes, we've met several times, bro.
1:15:11
Hashem is a great guy. He's a very gifted man.
1:15:13
And I'm, you know, grateful to to know him.
1:15:16
So, yeah. And Thomas, a good friend, and
1:15:18
he recommended that we speak. So yeah, we're, we're on board
1:15:22
And and I appreciate the call. Wow, that's amazing.
1:15:25
OK, so we're going to schedule it when you get back.
1:15:27
And we're sorry to bother you on vacation, but it's really nice
1:15:29
to speak with you. Not a worry.
1:15:31
I appreciate it. Thank you so much and continue
1:15:33
your great work. I appreciate it.
1:15:34
Thank you. All the best.
1:15:36
Wow. What a guy all.
1:15:38
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1:16:02
That's a wrap. Have a great day, everybody.
1:16:03
Michael, bye, bye. Wait, wait, wait, wait, don't.
1:16:05
What happened? What happened?
1:16:06
Michael, you are a people's person.
1:16:08
You asked me to find you a guy to come to your podcast.
1:16:12
I'm asking you to call someone now and tell him I want you to
1:16:15
buy an apartment. You are going to make the best
1:16:17
decision of your life. Look at this.
1:16:20
I love it. I love it.
1:16:21
I love it. That's what you need.
1:16:23
That is 100% what? You need great, I'd love.
1:16:25
To buy an apartment. All right, fantastic.
1:16:28
I have a guy for you Pushy I'd. Like that to be taken off
1:16:33
please. OK, but not at the moment, but
1:16:37
in the very near future. I think I've done with this
1:16:41
exactly, Have a nice day. All right.