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Rewarding Racism? The Viral Playground Incident That Shook America · All About The Joy

• 0:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey everybody, hi guys, Everybody, welcome to All About the Joy.
• 0:09
  Carmen Lezeth: The private lounge In the house is Mario and Alma.
• 0:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick Costa, cynthia, hi, hi, how you guys been doing.
• 0:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Good, it's been a minute, Miss you, miss you.
• 0:21
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to have a conversation about crowdfunding sites and I think a lot of you, if not I sent you the link, but a lot of people have heard about.
• 0:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to say the name of the person, I'm not going to say the crowdfunding sites, but we're going to talk about this because I think it's an interesting conversation that's been happening.
• 0:42
  Carmen Lezeth: There was a woman at a playground site with her own child who called another child the N-word, because the said child supposedly I think the child is four, five, six years old took a toy or took something out of her bag, and so she felt it important enough to scream the N-word at the child.
• 1:04
  Carmen Lezeth: She was recorded by another gentleman.
• 1:07
  Carmen Lezeth: The gentleman proceeded to ask her why did you?
• 1:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You know he was upset.
• 1:11
  Carmen Lezeth: He was like why are you calling this child the N word?
• 1:14
  Carmen Lezeth: How could you do that?
• 1:15
  Carmen Lezeth: And she just, with no problem whatsoever, kept saying it over and over again because she felt entitled to do that or whatever.
• 1:23
  Carmen Lezeth: So the next part of this that's very triggering to me is because of that, she set up a crowdfunding site.
• 1:32
  Carmen Lezeth: It is not the regular crowdfunding site that is well known for supporting white supremacists, supporting let me see neo-Nazis.
• 1:51
  Carmen Lezeth: It also raised the money for Kyle Rittenhouse If you guys remember who he is, I will say his name because it is an interesting part of this conversation.
• 2:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Interesting part of this conversation.
• 2:09
  Carmen Lezeth: She has raised over $750,000 as of 10 minutes ago, when I just last checked on the crowdfunding site.
• 2:13
  Carmen Lezeth: When you go in and look at all the people who are donating money now, everyone is doing anonymous, anonymous, anonymous.
• 2:19
  Carmen Lezeth: But when I was looking at it when it first started, people were doing like every different variation of Hitler names.
• 2:25
  Carmen Lezeth: People were thinking they were clever and saying things like Michelle Obama donated money.
• 2:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, they were hiding their names, but they were saying all of these.
• 2:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Really, I think, horrible, asinine things.
• 2:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me also say on the other side, the parents of the young child who was called the N-word.
• 2:42
  Carmen Lezeth: They also had set up a crowdfunding site on the probably more well-known crowdfunding site.
• 2:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to say their name either.
• 2:51
  Carmen Lezeth: They raised $300,000 pretty quickly and then they cut it off because they didn't want to keep taking money from people, so they stopped collecting money, whereas this other person.
• 3:03
  Carmen Lezeth: So they stopped collecting money, whereas this other person the woman that called the child the N-word keeps upping the amount, so now she is requesting up to a million dollars.
• 3:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, the only other person that I think is actually he's been getting death threats.
• 3:17
  Carmen Lezeth: He's already moved his family, his children and his family out of their house is the man who actually did the videotape.
• 3:25
  Carmen Lezeth: The videotaping.
• 3:27
  Carmen Lezeth: He set up a crowdfunding on a different site and he raised like $40,000 just to help him move.
• 3:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Because he's getting death threats and out of everyone, I feel probably even worse for him because he was so doing the right thing and his life has been upended.
• 3:48
  Carmen Lezeth: So, first, I wanted to get your thoughts on the crowdfunding parts of this or anything you want to talk about regarding it.
• 3:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I know it's very triggering, but that's what these conversations are for.
• 3:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You don't have to divulge, you know.
• 3:58
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys know this is not about divulging our personal.
• 4:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I will, because you know that's how how I is, but none of you have to divulge anything.
• 4:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's just have the conversation because it's out there anyways.
• 4:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick, I don't know if you have some insight, being that I'm talking about that site that is supposedly christian yeah, I didn't even know that part um it.
• 4:18
  Rick Costa: It's astounding that people are rewarding her for bad behavior, like, really, let me find something to say, see if I can make some money.
• 4:29
  Rick Costa: This is insanity, this is nuts.
• 4:32
  Rick Costa: That there's people that are thinking oh yeah, I agree with you, cause why would you give money unless you agreed with her and this many and that much.
• 4:40
  Rick Costa: But the worst is that she keeps upping it Like you have no shame.
• 4:44
  Rick Costa: You know what?
• 4:45
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to talk about shame because I think that's important, but let me say that much.
• 4:49
  Carmen Lezeth: But the worst is that she keeps upping it.
• 4:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You have no shame.
• 4:51
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to talk about shame because I think that's important, but let me say I actually think what's worse.
• 4:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Not that she's upping it, I agree with you, but I think we already know the moral of this woman.
• 4:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Her morals are clearly out of whack.
• 5:00
  Carmen Lezeth: As far as I'm concerned, I don't care what your reasoning is.
• 5:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Yelling at a child, let's not even talk about the N word.
• 5:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Yelling at a child, it's just ridiculous to me.
• 5:10
  Carmen Lezeth: And then on top of it, the N word so.
• 5:12
  Carmen Lezeth: But you know what's worse, the donations.
• 5:14
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like there's one person giving 3,000 or 4,000.
• 5:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It's $1, $5, $10.
• 5:22
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so many people.
• 5:24
  Carmen Lezeth: That, to me, is the heart wrenching part.
• 5:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to throw that in there, because when you said that it just recalled me.
• 5:30
  Carmen Lezeth: But you were talking about shame, which I think is important.
• 5:33
  Rick Costa: Yeah, she has done that.
• 5:34
  Rick Costa: That's absolutely ridiculous.
• 5:36
  Rick Costa: Like she what do they call that?
• 5:37
  Rick Costa: A grifter?
• 5:37
  Rick Costa: Is that how they call it?
• 5:38
  Rick Costa: Somebody just trying to make money?
• 5:40
  Rick Costa: And it's like you are, in my opinion, the lowest of the low.
• 5:45
  Rick Costa: Like it doesn't get much worse.
• 5:46
  Rick Costa: Like how can you do this?
• 5:48
  Rick Costa: This is insane.
• 5:49
  Rick Costa: You did something bad and getting rewarded for it by other people.
• 5:53
  Rick Costa: This is are we in a twilight zone episode?
• 5:56
  Rick Costa: What is happening here?
• 5:57
  Rick Costa: It's great.
• 5:58
  Rick Costa: I think.
• 6:00
  Alma Dawson: I think for me, this video just really illustrates the point that we I'll speak for myself me as a parent of a Black child always try to explain to people that our children are not allowed to be children, and explain to people that our children are not allowed to be children.
• 6:24
  Alma Dawson: Our children are not allowed to be children and this is the reason why we have to create safe spaces for them so that they can be children, you know, and be safe.
• 6:41
  Alma Dawson: Because these children are just at a playground in their neighborhood and you know.
• 6:50
  Alma Dawson: Their parent, I guess, felt safe enough for them to go to this park in their neighborhood on their own to go and play, because they do it, they've done it before, but even there they're not safe.
• 7:00
  Alma Dawson: It was no safety.
• 7:01
  Alma Dawson: There is no safety.
• 7:03
  Alma Dawson: There is no safety for children of color.
• 7:06
  Alma Dawson: There is no safety, even for a child.
• 7:09
  Alma Dawson: So if a child is being treated like this, openly courting you, and you're able to make money off of this, how safe are Black men?
• 7:20
  Alma Dawson: They're not.
• 7:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me add this part to you, not because I want to be fair, but I should be fair.
• 7:26
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like I'm a motherfucking journalist, but let me just say the argument for her needing the money if you read her site or whatever is because now everyone's going after her.
• 7:38
  Carmen Lezeth: She says that supposedly and I'm doing this that her name was leaked, her address was leaked.
• 7:44
  Carmen Lezeth: She has to move her children, but I'm like, okay, maybe that's part of the argument for why she needed to raise money.
• 7:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I think she did a bad thing and there are consequences when we do bad things, but somehow it's going back to what Rick said.
• 8:01
  Carmen Lezeth: The consequence here seems to be rewarding you for a retirement plan right.
• 8:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It only took 40 000 for the other guy to uproot his family.
• 8:11
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's taking her now 750 and possibly a million dollars to move her and her family.
• 8:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Like, why so much more?
• 8:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Let me tell you, when I, when I saw the video, you know the the Boston came out of me.
• 8:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I watched it because has that been me standing out there watching this woman do that?
• 8:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I would have confronted her Forget the cameras and all.
• 8:34
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I would have confronted her, Me and her probably would have went at it or something.
• 8:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But you know, after watching it I had to calm myself down because you know that's not Christian of me, Her saying she is a Christian woman.
• 8:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And you know all these people who are giving money to her and are doing it anonymously.
• 8:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They're all cowards.
• 8:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Because if you really believed in what she was doing, why not put your name out there, why not put your name on that list instead of doing?
• 9:08
  Carmen Lezeth: it anonymously.
• 9:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if she said she's a Christian woman.
• 9:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you saw that somewhere.
• 9:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 9:15
  Carmen Lezeth: The crowdfunding site is a site that was initially started by siblings, who set it up, I think, for good intentions it was for missionary work back in 2014, for missionary work and giving medical care to people who were doing missionary work, or something like that.
• 9:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I went and did some research, I wanted to know what this site was.
• 9:36
  Carmen Lezeth: However, they thought that the other crowdfunding site, which we all know very well, okay, was anti-Christian, which I don't know if that's very true.
• 9:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think the others, I don't think all that really matters, but you know, okay, so set up your own site, do what you want, but when you start saying you're Christian and you start supporting things that I would believe are not Christian at all and are immoral, like that line, what is that line?
• 10:08
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm not sure that she said she is Christian.
• 10:12
  Carmen Lezeth: One of the latest things that I saw today.
• 10:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I was going to post it on here, but I don't want to trigger you all, because Tizzy is somebody who everyone, I think, follows or knows who he is.
• 10:22
  Carmen Lezeth: He's the one, I think, who starts sending these things out and he has an update and she is proudly even writing the N word to verify who she is and posting it on Twitter or X, whatever it's called.
• 10:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me just say this what's happening with the crowdfunding site as of 10 minutes ago that I was looking at, there is a young lady whose name I don't remember.
• 10:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I should have written it down because I would like to say her name.
• 10:53
  Carmen Lezeth: She's a coder.
• 10:54
  Carmen Lezeth: She went in and looked at what third-party app is supplying the banking and routing information that holds all that money that then gives it to her, and she has figured out that it's not Stripe, it's Square Square.
• 11:12
  Carmen Lezeth: That sounds so funny and I think they're going to try to disable it.
• 11:18
  Carmen Lezeth: But I don't think they're going to get away with that.
• 11:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I think they're trying to disable the programming so that she won't get the money, and I think you know that.
• 11:25
  Carmen Lezeth: In and of itself, I understand, and what a smart woman to find out who the third party banking institution is, but I don't think that's the right way to do it either.
• 11:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think they want to kind of pressure the third party app to say, no, we're not going to give you this money.
• 11:39
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's another little tidbit.
• 11:45
  Maurio Dawson: Mario, share whatever you want to share, even if it's nothing at all.
• 11:47
  Maurio Dawson: I have no words.
• 11:48
  Maurio Dawson: I have no words, I just don't.
• 11:51
  Alma Dawson: Okay.
• 11:52
  Maurio Dawson: I don't.
• 11:52
  Maurio Dawson: I don't have anything to say because I live it every day.
• 11:58
  Maurio Dawson: I've been called that Don't have anything else to say.
• 12:06
  Maurio Dawson: And the fact that we are continuously going backwards into a slave mentality where people think that we are boys, we are the N-word when we are children, when our children are coming out of the womb, and that's what you're seen as.
• 12:29
  Maurio Dawson: When we were written into the Constitution as two-thirds, I don't have anything else to say.
• 12:39
  Maurio Dawson: I just think that I feel sorry for the child because the child was exposed to something that baby probably didn't know what that meant, but they will know.
• 12:52
  Maurio Dawson: He knows now and it is a touchstone memory that is ingrained in him from the age of five for the rest of his life and he didn't even get a chance to live, get to a teenager or an adult.
• 13:16
  Carmen Lezeth: That's part of America, though, right, that's part of our country.
• 13:18
  Carmen Lezeth: My book starts off, rick and Cynthia, you guys have read.
• 13:22
  Carmen Lezeth: My book starts off with me being called the N-word.
• 13:25
  Carmen Lezeth: That's how it begins, I think even as a woman I've been called that, and I was a kid.
• 13:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I ran home to my mother because I was crying so hard, trying to figure out why everybody hated me and why they were calling me this name.
• 13:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And yeah, this is part of America.
• 13:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not trying to blow it off, but I'm like I agree with you.
• 13:48
  Carmen Lezeth: That kid never had a chance.
• 13:50
  Carmen Lezeth: This, I think, is even harder in a way, because it will be on line right forever, forever what a thing to be famous for.
• 14:04
  Rick Costa: Not a good thing.
• 14:05
  Rick Costa: Yeah, oh, you're that kid.
• 14:08
  Rick Costa: He has to live with that the whole rest of his life.
• 14:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Were they able to shield?
• 14:12
  Alma Dawson: him.
• 14:12
  Alma Dawson: Though he did, he shielded him.
• 14:14
  Alma Dawson: My thing is, I hope that the mother, the parents, get a lawyer and sue her for everything that she's getting.
• 14:22
  Carmen Lezeth: They are.
• 14:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the NAACP is already involved.
• 14:25
  Alma Dawson: I really do so.
• 14:26
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, keep raising the money.
• 14:27
  Alma Dawson: Keep raising the money so that I can all go to him.
• 14:29
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, keep raising it so it can all go to him.
• 14:33
  Alma Dawson: That's my prayer and my hope.
• 14:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, you know what's so interesting, though, as Mario was speaking so solemnly, is that the right word?
• 14:43
  Carmen Lezeth: So I just I feel it in your heart.
• 14:44
  Carmen Lezeth: What I speaking so solemnly, is that the right word?
• 14:46
  Carmen Lezeth: So I just I feel it in your heart.
• 14:47
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, what I was thinking about as you were speaking was and then we have Kendrick Lamar, and then we have Ryan Coogler, and then we have, and we have, the Met Gala.
• 14:56
  Carmen Lezeth: That just happened and I'm like you can't push us down.
• 15:01
  Carmen Lezeth: You cannot push black folk down, and I think this is what is so amazing to watch these people who are trying to hold on to crumbs of white supremacy because they cannot deal with the brilliance that has always been and is now even shining more blatantly every single day, and I am sorry about that.
• 15:29
  Carmen Lezeth: It's kind of like when you were saying I'm like that's my prayer you have to keep seeing the magnificence of Black beauty, and still I rise.
• 15:41
  Alma Dawson: right, and still I rise.
• 15:43
  Maurio Dawson: No, it's about and I hope maybe this young man will see it one day it's about Black boy joy, and I hope this doesn't scar him so much that he forgets that he is a beautiful Black boy and full of joy.
• 16:04
  Maurio Dawson: And that's the beauty in us giving back to our kids and saying you have Black boy joy, you have Black girl magic.
• 16:12
  Maurio Dawson: Those are those things, those little diamonds that penetrate and pierce the hate.
• 16:23
  Carmen Lezeth: And what about the white child?
• 16:26
  Maurio Dawson: Bless his heart.
• 16:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm being serious.
• 16:28
  Carmen Lezeth: She's holding a white kid in her hand.
• 16:31
  Maurio Dawson: No, but the thing is that's what she wants to teach.
• 16:35
  Maurio Dawson: But then there are those people out in the world and there are some kind allies who see us for who we are and love us, naturally and beautifully and magnificently, magnificently.
• 16:51
  Maurio Dawson: The world, everyone doesn't hate us and I understand that, that these ignorant people get the glory and the shine and it just perpetrates the negativity over what when we don't, when we're.
• 17:17
  Maurio Dawson: We should be shining lights on our black doctors, our black lawyers, our black accountants, our black magnificent people, not just in the arts but in science.
• 17:23
  Maurio Dawson: You are beautiful, you are loved, you are magnificent.
• 17:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Can I interject here, because this and this is probably not going to make you happy, but here's the thing that pisses me off about.
• 17:34
  Carmen Lezeth: It is, as people continue to be racist fucktards and I'm going to say it that way you also take away from the beauty of every culture in this country.
• 17:46
  Carmen Lezeth: That's not my fault, that's her fault, I know, that's her fault, but that's what I'm saying is, then we all become hyper-focused on only how we can keep shining, because there's no ability to breathe and to just enjoy each other, because of the racism, because of the hatred.
• 18:04
  Maurio Dawson: Can't do nothing about that, but just keep living and doing what I do and keep feeling what I feel.
• 18:08
  Maurio Dawson: You gotta uplift yourself, because nobody else is gonna do it.
• 18:12
  Carmen Lezeth: That's not the world I wanna live in.
• 18:14
  Maurio Dawson: I'm just saying but it's the world that is.
• 18:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia thoughts.
• 18:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I said my piece.
• 18:24
  Maurio Dawson: Can we find some joy tonight?
• 18:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: yes, we have a new pope.
• 18:30
  Carmen Lezeth: We're not going to talk about the new pope because all we're going to do is talk about politics, which is just going to bring you guys back down.
• 18:37
  Rick Costa: I didn't want to say go ahead, rick go ahead because there is some people that love to say y'all are exaggerating.
• 18:44
  Rick Costa: There's not people that love to say y'all are exaggerating, there's not racism, it's racism because y'all keep talking about it.
• 18:50
  Rick Costa: Okay, then how does she get all this money?
• 18:52
  Rick Costa: Who are all these people?
• 18:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Exactly.
• 18:57
  Maurio Dawson: And I try to love everybody.
• 18:58
  Maurio Dawson: I really do.
• 19:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't try to love everybody, because that's not my goal.
• 19:03
  Maurio Dawson: But you know what?
• 19:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Because the thing is as true Christians God is love and you're supposed to love everyone.
• 19:14
  Carmen Lezeth: You can't love someone, mario, and in one breath say you want to be revengeful, which is what Alma just did.
• 19:17
  Carmen Lezeth: No, because even it's not about revengeful because you said I hope my hope and my prayer.
• 19:21
  Alma Dawson: I'm not about revengeful because my hope and my prayer exactly my hope and my prayer is that they do get some type of redemption.
• 19:29
  Alma Dawson: But it's not my fight.
• 19:30
  Alma Dawson: The fight is the Lord's.
• 19:31
  Rick Costa: That's it.
• 19:32
  Rick Costa: I can pray for them.
• 19:34
  Alma Dawson: I'm just saying no, because I don't want you to misinterpret what I said.
• 19:37
  Alma Dawson: What I said was I do, I hope and I pray that he does get that.
• 19:43
  Alma Dawson: He does get the money he does.
• 19:45
  Alma Dawson: That's not going to change the hatred in that woman's heart.
• 19:48
  Alma Dawson: I pray that the Lord works on her heart.
• 19:50
  Alma Dawson: But that's not my job, that's the Lord's job.
• 19:53
  Alma Dawson: But I can't pray that.
• 19:55
  Alma Dawson: I can, pray for that.
• 19:56
  Alma Dawson: I can't.
• 19:57
  Alma Dawson: You can't pray for that, and it's not about hatred.
• 20:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You can't start defining what love is and then the next breath saying something that I think is kind of no two things can be, true.
• 20:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, they can be true.
• 20:08
  Carmen Lezeth: At the same time, I'm just saying, I just we're called to love everyone.
• 20:14
  Alma Dawson: I don't have to like everyone.
• 20:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Can I say a word now?
• 20:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me just say something.
• 20:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Here's what I'm saying.
• 20:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Your definition of love is very different from my definition of love.
• 20:26
  Carmen Lezeth: That's all I'm saying.
• 20:27
  Carmen Lezeth: That's okay, yeah.
• 20:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Saying that's okay, yeah, and that's okay.
• 20:34
  Carmen Lezeth: We can agree to disagree.
• 20:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I just think it's for me, it's like I don't have to love everybody, like I actually don't love everybody.
• 20:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't love people who hurt other people and I actually I can actually say that I hate those people, and I think the problem this is my opinion I think the problem is we put a lot of emphasis and freely use love like it's no big deal, but then hate.
• 20:56
  Carmen Lezeth: We're all like clutching our pearls, like it means something big and it's no.
• 21:00
  Carmen Lezeth: There are some people there are 8 billion people on this planet.
• 21:03
  Carmen Lezeth: There is no way I'm going to love all of them, because some of them are horrible human beings like this woman.
• 21:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I have no problem saying I do not love her.
• 21:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I have no wanting to love her.
• 21:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I think what she is doing she just damaged you just talked for 10, 12 minutes about how much she just damaged a young boy's joy.
• 21:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Why am gonna find love in her?
• 21:28
  Carmen Lezeth: There's no love to have for her, none but we don't know her heart.
• 21:33
  Alma Dawson: That's what I'm saying it we can't her heart.
• 21:36
  Alma Dawson: Well, I mean, she has to.
• 21:39
  Alma Dawson: She has her own child there you know what I'm saying?
• 21:43
  Alma Dawson: It's like I can't speak on what's in her heart.
• 21:46
  Alma Dawson: Her actions show the ugliness that is in there for certain, for certain.
• 21:54
  Alma Dawson: But yeah, it's just different philosophies.
• 21:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick, what's your thought process on any of this, since you're the guru of Christianity in the room?
• 22:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 22:08
  Rick Costa: I'll be like y'all when you're talking about women stuff, like I don't represent all women.
• 22:11
  Rick Costa: I think there's a difference between revenge and justice.
• 22:19
  Rick Costa: Yes, revenge is I hope she falls off a bridge Right.
• 22:24
  Rick Costa: Justice is I don't care how it happens, she ain't gonna get none of that money that she don't deserve.
• 22:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it's a two different things and I think that's a very gray line of wishing her ill will but not saying it that way and putting it on the lord.
• 22:39
  Carmen Lezeth: You can do it however you want like.
• 22:41
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Think of it this way there's a difference between telling somebody have a blessed day and saying I hope you have a day you deserve.
• 22:50
  Maurio Dawson: Boom.
• 22:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but it's still OK.
• 22:53
  Carmen Lezeth: All I'm saying is you guys are using verbiage to say the same thing.
• 22:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You may not want to use the word revenge or whatever, but at the end of the day you're wishing that she doesn't get the money, which in turn will hurt her.
• 23:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, supposedly, I hope I look at I.
• 23:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm on the side of her not getting anything either.
• 23:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I just don't want to.
• 23:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't want the woman who wants to code and do it that way to get in.
• 23:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't want any more people to get in trouble in this mess.
• 23:19
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 23:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I think when you say have the day you deserve, that's coming from a place of being a little snooty about it.
• 23:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, you're doing something, you're saying something, but what you really mean is F you, you know what I mean, or whatever it is you're trying to insinuate so you can color your words however you want.
• 23:38
  Carmen Lezeth: There's still the basic meaning behind it.
• 23:41
  Carmen Lezeth: So I understand that's your belief system.
• 23:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying I disagree with the.
• 23:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I pray for her redemption and then I have to love her thing.
• 23:49
  Carmen Lezeth: To me that feels very contradictory, but it's because I don't believe the same thing you believe and I think that's okay.
• 23:55
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, but I don't want to promote one way of thinking over the other, because I am not a Christian.
• 24:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not.
• 24:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I have been done with that thing long time ago, even though I will respect all of you.
• 24:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Y'all are Christians in the room, so I will respect your Christianity, but I don't want to lie about how I feel about it.
• 24:18
  Maurio Dawson: No, and everybody's feelings in the room are valid 100%, and that's the beauty of being an individual.
• 24:26
  Maurio Dawson: We all have our own opinions and thoughts and we can respect each other and have a very passionate conversation about something and still respect each other, yeah.
• 24:42
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not that I don't want to talk about the Pope.
• 24:44
  Carmen Lezeth: We can talk about the Pope tomorrow if you guys come on the show.
• 24:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Whatever, the thing about talking about certain things with you guys as a group is that it's very eggshell-y sometimes because I know that we have different viewpoints on what God is and what God is not, and you know Christianity versus the Bible and Rick knows I think I you know on the last episode that I just put up honoring Rick.
• 25:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you guys got to see it.
• 25:12
  Maurio Dawson: I don't know.
• 25:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think Rick liked it very much, but that's okay, I thought it was adorable.
• 25:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 25:18
  Maurio Dawson: He said it was adorable, it was adorable.
• 25:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not feeling that, but whatever I was trying to Any warm feelings, what Squishy inside?
• 25:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Squishy inside, yeah that.
• 25:27
  Carmen Lezeth: But whatever I was trying to warm feelings, what was she inside?
• 25:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Was she inside?
• 25:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah?
• 25:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I missed something in this um.
• 25:36
  Carmen Lezeth: You had said it had been so long since we had done something, just me and you.
• 25:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And then the other day we thought it was going to be me and you, and then I felt bad because then jeff came on the show and then it wasn't, and I was like you know what?
• 25:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just going to do a whole.
• 25:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I had been thinking about it anyways, and so I took them from long time ago, whatever.
• 25:53
  Carmen Lezeth: But my point is even on there.
• 25:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I explained in one of those segments back then.
• 25:59
  Carmen Lezeth: You know that I don't believe what you believe, and sometimes when I watch your show, I'm like nope, nope, nope, but I keep it to myself.
• 26:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like nope, nope, nope, but I keep it to myself.
• 26:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't go in your comments or say anything.
• 26:08
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 26:14
  Carmen Lezeth: But so you and I have never.
• 26:15
  Carmen Lezeth: We don't agree on a lot of things.
• 26:16
  Carmen Lezeth: But then I think fundamentally I don't know if it's just about respect, because I think that goes without saying I wouldn't be involved with people I don't respect.
• 26:22
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think just being able to understand that it's okay to not have the same, I think just being able to understand that it's okay to not have the same fundamental belief system.
• 26:29
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Carmen Lezeth: But you can still be friends or still be acquaintances and still talk to each other.
• 26:34
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 26:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean 100%, but I think, on this issue just to get back to the crowdfunding I was curious if you guys think that this whole new way of living because when we were growing up and Rick, you just touched on it a bit when we were growing up, I don't know how many times I was called names or beat up or whatever there was no crowdfunding you know how rich I'd be right now.
• 26:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you guys think I'm not trying to be funny, but, rick, you kind of said earlier but do you guys have a thought or an idea of how crowdfunding is changing the way everybody does a I'm not going to say the name of the site, but does a crowdfunding thing whenever they need something.
• 27:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I see it all the time now and I have to tell you, sometimes I get really bitter about it.
• 27:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Maybe that's just me, though.
• 27:23
  Maurio Dawson: Well, okay, if there's a true need.
• 27:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Like medical.
• 27:29
  Maurio Dawson: Medical.
• 27:29
  Maurio Dawson: Like, for example, there was a time where we were struggling and we didn't have any groceries in the house and we were like, okay, how are we going to get our food?
• 27:39
  Maurio Dawson: I was like, oh, crowdfunding would have been helpful.
• 27:42
  Maurio Dawson: You understand what I'm saying.
• 27:43
  Maurio Dawson: But the thing is, then you see people's stories and you're like, are they really Because?
• 27:49
  Maurio Dawson: Now, you're like, because now you find out somebody's driving a Lambo and you're on some BS and I gave you my hard-earned $50.
• 28:00
  Carmen Lezeth: $50.
• 28:01
  Maurio Dawson: $50.
• 28:02
  Maurio Dawson: And so that's where it gets a little sketch.
• 28:08
  Maurio Dawson: Sketch, because then we've seen the scam artists come out through these crowdfunding things.
• 28:14
  Maurio Dawson: So it's, it's a little dicey, you know.
• 28:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I like the ones that are for like I.
• 28:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I donated money last year.
• 28:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Didn't know who it was, but it was a young woman I'm not gonna say woman, she woman, she's a kid, high school kid doing a film and her father helped her do a LinkedIn.
• 28:32
  Carmen Lezeth: He was on LinkedIn and she was trying to do a film to put into one of the festivals and I was like so, artists, you know what I mean Like, give some money to this, and those things I think are kind of a cool way to help, especially when you don't know somebody or whatever.
• 28:47
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, I think, with these crowdfunding, like you said, I think it's just it's, you know, consumer beware.
• 28:54
  Alma Dawson: So if you're going to give it, then you know, give it.
• 28:59
  Alma Dawson: There's ways of you know, being a sleuth and kind of investigating to see if things are kind of real.
• 29:04
  Alma Dawson: Things are kind of real when, if I feel led to it, I do things like I don't want to like the ones that the educators go on and ask for supplies and things like that.
• 29:15
  Alma Dawson: I like doing those because I know that it's helping an educator, because I see, uh, from my own experience, how much of their own money they put back into.
• 29:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, let's say that's horrible that even this has been happening forever.
• 29:29
  Carmen Lezeth: But let's just give a shout out to teachers, because alice mcintyre used to do that in the seventh grade and we know how old I am, yeah you would take money out of her own pocket.
• 29:38
  Carmen Lezeth: And teachers are still, to this day, still doing it in their classroom.
• 29:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, and that's horrible.
• 29:46
  Carmen Lezeth: And they have the Amazon list.
• 29:50
  Alma Dawson: So yeah, I mean that's how they're able to supplement some of their things.
• 29:54
  Alma Dawson: The other thing that I do like to also do is, like you students, if they're trying to do their senior trip or they're trying to do their trip abroad or they're trying to go study abroad, there's ways to investigate that and usually they put the links there for the school so you can go see that it's legit.
• 30:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You know things like that, so I do like to do those you know, but if somebody needs legal services, like it's a legitimate person.
• 30:23
  Alma Dawson: You know, and, like I said, the beauty of it is you can pick and choose.
• 30:27
  Alma Dawson: There's a lot, there's no.
• 30:28
  Alma Dawson: There's so many, there's so many.
• 30:31
  Alma Dawson: Where it used to be more rare, Now it's the more common thing, where before we, we would go to the church and they would.
• 30:38
  Alma Dawson: They have a fund where they help.
• 30:40
  Alma Dawson: You know where they help, or community, or you know family.
• 30:46
  Alma Dawson: That's how it used to be before.
• 30:48
  Alma Dawson: Now it's you go and you do a link and send it out.
• 30:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You do a TikTok and you send a link and then you get a superstar like Tizzy or something We've had.
• 30:58
  Alma Dawson: someone bold us to send a direct text requesting.
• 31:02
  Maurio Dawson: I told you that story.
• 31:05
  Alma Dawson: So you know, I'm just going to say that I'm just I'm not going to go any further.
• 31:08
  Alma Dawson: But yeah, we've had that and I was like huh, cynthia, would you ever?
• 31:13
  Carmen Lezeth: do it.
• 31:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No no.
• 31:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But, I, like I know my, my brother has done one when his house caught on fire.
• 31:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: What do you mean?
• 31:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I didn't know about it.
• 31:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This was years ago.
• 31:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, the boiler, carmen, you.
• 31:26
  Maurio Dawson: This was years ago.
• 31:27
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, the boiler, you can still do it.
• 31:28
  Maurio Dawson: Carmen, you can still do it.
• 31:30
  Maurio Dawson: How?
• 31:30
  Carmen Lezeth: did I not know.
• 31:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait, was this Sean?
• 31:33
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I didn't know.
• 31:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This was years ago.
• 31:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Maybe.
• 31:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think it was probably before COVID, the boiler in the basement.
• 31:40
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That was that long ago, oh a few years.
• 31:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I thought you meant like 30 years ago, but like oh, no, no, no Talk later the boiler exploded in the basement and caught on fire.
• 31:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, oh man.
• 31:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Thankfully everybody got out, Like all three apartments got everyone out.
• 31:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They did lose a dog, but everybody got out.
• 32:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Someone made a good point on TikTok.
• 32:04
  Carmen Lezeth: They said you have money to give to this crowdfunding situation.
• 32:11
  Carmen Lezeth: The woman who did the N-word thing, but you don't have money for eggs Got it Understood.
• 32:17
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I was like, oh my God, but you complained about money for eggs and I was like yeah, exactly, so it's an interesting dynamic yeah, it is tricky because I do know somebody else who did one and I knew their situation and I couldn't believe that they were doing it and I did not donate.
• 32:40
  Carmen Lezeth: But that's what it's tricky.
• 32:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it's a different thing.
• 32:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Again, I think we've established thing.
• 32:44
  Carmen Lezeth: There's certain things where we're like if it's children or school teachers or somebody who's actually in need, I don't even care what it's about if it's something in need.
• 32:52
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think what's harder for me, especially when it comes to the lawyer thing right, the meeting, legal or whatever there are a lot of law firms out there, especially if it's now become a high profile thing they're going to do it pro bono because the marketing and advertising alone is worth it.
• 33:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Al Sharpton going to be out and do what he needs to do to take care of people.
• 33:15
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:16
  Maurio Dawson: Lawyer all red, she's going to be out there.
• 33:18
  Carmen Lezeth: That's right.
• 33:18
  Carmen Lezeth: So I always get nervous when I see that kind of thing and I also think it's made us.
• 33:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know how to say this in a nicer way, but I'm suspect now, every time I see a crowdfunding thing, every time I agree Really.
• 33:36
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, I agree.
• 33:36
  Alma Dawson: To me it's more teach our kid that it's about the human connection.
• 33:43
  Alma Dawson: So do good in your community.
• 33:43
  Alma Dawson: Find out what the need is here, because there's plenty of people in your own neighborhood that need the local churches help, the local food banks they need help and that's a secure place to give to yes, exactly the church or your food bank someone.
• 34:03
  Carmen Lezeth: If I need something, you know what, that's where I would go first that part.
• 34:06
  Alma Dawson: And the thing is that if you really want it they'll give you a receipt.
• 34:09
  Alma Dawson: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:10
  Alma Dawson: So those are the places that I say go and don't just give them money.
• 34:14
  Alma Dawson: If you can give your time, they really appreciate you giving your time, because then they get to know you and when you get to make those connections and then to me it's like you're more willing to go back and help again, because it's like, whatever time you have, if it's just one hour once a month, they will gladly.
• 34:31
  Alma Dawson: You know, you know.
• 34:36
  Carmen Lezeth: And a lot of people want help, too, online.
• 34:37
  Carmen Lezeth: You'd be surprised how many churches, food banks, whatever, are not techie and really could use somebody who could help them with kind of the things that maybe younger Gen Z, whatever people know how to do.
• 34:47
  Carmen Lezeth: So you could probably or delivering.
• 34:49
  Alma Dawson: Churches need help delivering things seniors as well yeah, yeah, even for myself, just knowing the second language, just helping people fill out forms, helping people make translate documents, things like that there's so much joy when you volunteer and help people.
• 35:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario, there's a joy, baby there, it is a volunteer, even this past weekend.
• 35:13
  Alma Dawson: There's a local farmer's market every weekend and one of the things sometimes we'll all go and then sometimes our kid will just go on her own.
• 35:22
  Alma Dawson: And she came back and she was like I just saw this gentleman and I was just really moved to help them.
• 35:28
  Alma Dawson: I want to go back.
• 35:29
  Alma Dawson: I told them that I was going to come back, so all three of us okay, we put a bag together with toiletries, clothes, because that's what he said he needed.
• 35:38
  Alma Dawson: He said he needed toiletries.
• 35:39
  Alma Dawson: He said he needed clean clothes.
• 35:42
  Alma Dawson: He said he wanted snacks because he was just trying to make it and we were like let's.
• 35:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Then we put it out together, we packed the bag.
• 35:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I think one thing about community right, we've lost that and, but it's so hard and not to keep bringing it back to what we started talking about but, like, in the one sense, you have the crowdfunding that could act as a way of community to help.
• 36:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, because you could be in another state and you could be like, oh, this gentleman needs something, I can donate money, like I know, for the fires we had here in the Palisades, a lot of individual people were doing crowdfunding sites, and so you see that and you're like okay, like you can help.
• 36:21
  Carmen Lezeth: So, in one sense, it brings community together even if you're not in the state.
• 36:25
  Carmen Lezeth: On the other hand, though, I still think what we're missing is the in touch in person, even if it's like this, which is part of what we're trying to do here, most definitely.
• 36:35
  Alma Dawson: So I agree with that.
• 36:36
  Alma Dawson: It's just to me, it's that human, it's that person to person connection and I feel like if a person just wants food, take them.
• 36:43
  Alma Dawson: That's always my thing.
• 36:44
  Alma Dawson: You want food?
• 36:45
  Alma Dawson: Okay, come on, let's go.
• 36:46
  Alma Dawson: Let me go buy you the meal.
• 36:47
  Alma Dawson: I will buy you the meal.
• 36:48
  Alma Dawson: Now I've had situations where they've been like oh no, I just want the money.
• 36:52
  Alma Dawson: Oh sorry, I can't help you.
• 36:54
  Maurio Dawson: Right, no, this one gentleman told my mother five dollars.
• 37:03
  Maurio Dawson: What am I going to do?
• 37:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: with five dollars.
• 37:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I was like give me my $5 back.
• 37:08
  Alma Dawson: Oh no, it takes all kinds, but I'm just saying.
• 37:12
  Alma Dawson: I just feel like if you really want to do well, You're not wrong, mario.
• 37:17
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just kidding.
• 37:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not wrong, it's a start.
• 37:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: What do you have?
• 37:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: A dozen eggs.
• 37:25
  Carmen Lezeth: It's amazing, we in LA baby what you going to do with $5?
• 37:34
  Alma Dawson: I'm kidding, I had to.
• 37:37
  Alma Dawson: I'm saying is look in your neighborhood, look at your local school, look at your local food bank.
• 37:44
  Carmen Lezeth: That's where you can give and know that it's going back to your, into your own community and you know, if you do want to do crowdfunding, just do what you said earlier.
• 37:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Just make sure you research it.
• 37:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't.
• 37:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I think technology is great.
• 37:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it has done a lot to bring us together.
• 38:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it again I've never met rick in person and cynthia and mario, and I have never met you know what I.
• 38:06
  Carmen Lezeth: And so it's this we have.
• 38:08
  Carmen Lezeth: We've met on here, we've met no, but I'm saying like we haven't done the physical thing.
• 38:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that sounds wrong, but you know what?
• 38:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I'm just saying like.
• 38:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you know that's part of what All About the Joy is trying to do is build community, even if it's through this kind of situation on the internet, Because I think having the conversations, having the arguments, having the whatever controversies, the discussions actually builds community, which is what we're missing, right?
• 38:50
  Carmen Lezeth: We're missing that kind of ability to be in touch with each other and get to know each other.
• 38:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I say this all the time.
• 38:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I would not be here today if it was not even an exaggeration.
• 39:02
  Carmen Lezeth: It is not an exaggeration.
• 39:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I would not be here today if it wasn't for the community that I grew up in Cynthia can vouch for that, I'm just saying it and we've lost that.
• 39:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think today.
• 39:14
  Carmen Lezeth: If what happened to me when I was growing up happened, I think I would have fallen through the cracks easily, Without a doubt, Because we don't have that sense of community.
• 39:23
  Carmen Lezeth: No more People don't care about their next door neighbors.
• 39:28
  Alma Dawson: It's so sad because just working in the schools you see how a lot of that that used to be the kids would get you know with family or with community, be able to, you know, grow up.
• 39:42
  Alma Dawson: Now it's just so.
• 39:44
  Alma Dawson: Now even that is monetized.
• 39:46
  Alma Dawson: Oh sure, yeah, I'll foster but it's monetized, or I'll take them but I'm not going to adopt, because if I adopt, I don't get the money, it's so, it's just yeah.
• 40:00
  Carmen Lezeth: That part of our capitalist country?
• 40:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know Very much, very much.
• 40:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Everything is, you know, and I want Rick and Cynthia to say something, because then I edit and it's just me and Alma talking.
• 40:17
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, it's true, though right Me and you are like that and you and I should just have a show together.
• 40:22
  Carmen Lezeth: We should.
• 40:24
  Carmen Lezeth: You and you, you should those.
• 40:25
  Alma Dawson: Latinas Right.
• 40:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, we could do it in Spanish, with my broken fucking English Spanish.
• 40:31
  Carmen Lezeth: It'd be cool.
• 40:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Like Spanish, we can do it in Spanglish.
• 40:33
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what I'm saying.
• 40:34
  Carmen Lezeth: It'd be so good.
• 40:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that's, we're going to hook that up.
• 40:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick.
• 40:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia Thought Ideas.
• 40:40
  Rick Costa: You want to go first, Cynthia?
• 40:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Go ahead.
• 40:44
  Rick Costa: Rick, well, well used to be said it takes a village.
• 40:51
  Rick Costa: But now the village is too scared because you might get in trouble.
• 40:53
  Rick Costa: For you know, because, oh, you talk to my kid that way.
• 40:54
  Rick Costa: How dare you I'm like your kids try to beat up my kid, like I'm gonna sit here and do nothing the village is backstabbing each other that's why, rick, rick, do you know who wrote a book and called it that?
• 41:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Mm-mm, it takes a village.
• 41:08
  Rick Costa: Oh, was it Maya Angelou.
• 41:09
  Carmen Lezeth: No who Hillary Clinton?
• 41:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh Boom Sorry.
• 41:16
  Rick Costa: It takes a village, the other thing I wanted to bring up too bringing it back to crowdfunding is because I've heard of a lot of people that started one and then the crowdfunding place canceled it.
• 41:26
  Rick Costa: Yeah, and they had already raised a lot of money.
• 41:28
  Rick Costa: So I'm going to be honest with you In my mind I thought when this started I'm like surely they're going to cancel this Because that's the norm, so let me just let me verify.
• 41:37
  Carmen Lezeth: So there is the normal or the most known one that everyone can pretty much say easily.
• 41:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Then there was another one established, and I'm not lying to you.
• 41:47
  Carmen Lezeth: It is the American Christian Crowdfunding site.
• 41:50
  Carmen Lezeth: That's not the name of it, I'm just telling you.
• 41:52
  Carmen Lezeth: That's their definition.
• 41:53
  Carmen Lezeth: And it was established in 2014 for the first purpose and then, after that, it became a place that housed not housed, but helped neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups and Kyle Rittenhouse is one of the biggest names recently, right in the past years, who killed two people.
• 42:16
  Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing just to be fair, I want to be fair.
• 42:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone has a right to a defense.
• 42:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone does, especially if you become a high profile, even if I hate you.
• 42:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I want everyone in this country to have due process.
• 42:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Hate you.
• 42:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I want everyone in this country to have due process, which is what we have in our constitution, and please know I didn't say citizens.
• 42:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone in this country is allowed due process, so that means Kyle Rittenhouse and the women and anyone else.
• 42:43
  Carmen Lezeth: What I'm saying is where is our ethical line?
• 42:47
  Carmen Lezeth: Where is our morality?
• 42:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Where is that line where we're now making $750,000 on calling a child a name, the N word and using that word easily, right?
• 43:00
  Carmen Lezeth: What is that line?
• 43:02
  Rick Costa: I want to know if this one that is going to eventually give her the money, which I hope she doesn't get the money.
• 43:08
  Rick Costa: If they're not big on canceling, well, have they ever?
• 43:12
  Rick Costa: And who have they canceled?
• 43:14
  Rick Costa: I want to know that.
• 43:15
  Carmen Lezeth: They've given money to neo-Nazis and white supremacists and so why would they cancel this?
• 43:20
  Carmen Lezeth: This seems to be in line with what they do, I think, with the young woman whose name I wish I knew because I would scream her name.
• 43:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I just don't remember her name.
• 43:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I just saw it and I didn't write it down the coder.
• 43:32
  Carmen Lezeth: What she's saying is, if a place like Stripe or Square or whichever one is, if we tell them they cannot allow that money to go through, it'll make it harder and she won't be able to get the money.
• 43:45
  Carmen Lezeth: So she's saying she found out what the third party was in its square and so putting a pressure campaign on them not to allow the money to come.
• 43:55
  Carmen Lezeth: But I still think the problem is all the donations that are going.
• 43:58
  Carmen Lezeth: To begin with, it's not even about money.
• 44:01
  Maurio Dawson: It's about where it began and how many people are encouraging.
• 44:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Are encouraging it and are saying that it's actually okay that she did what she did.
• 44:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Where was the parent of that?
• 44:12
  Alma Dawson: child.
• 44:13
  Alma Dawson: From what I understand, the gentleman knows the children because he takes his children there to play and those kids are there.
• 44:22
  Alma Dawson: They come to play there every day as well when he brings his kids.
• 44:25
  Alma Dawson: They must not live far, but the child was there with an older sibling.
• 44:32
  Alma Dawson: Oh okay, I think you're right recording, because that woman was started chasing them because, he took whatever it was her bag her bag and called them the n, the n word, and then he was, and he even said something, like you were trying to hit him, like you know, so it was just yeah.
• 44:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I think he's a.
• 44:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean again, you know, I'm always like, would I ever pull out my phone, like every time I'm in a situation.
• 45:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you guys saw my latest Tik TOK probably not, cause I know you guys aren't always on Tik TOK but I was coming home the other day from taking a walk and I'm walking home and there is there's a big, there's a lot of trees on our street.
• 45:14
  Carmen Lezeth: This is like a big one coming out the sidewalk, it's like big and fat, and I saw a woman about to take off her pants and a man in front of and he was holding this area.
• 45:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Yup, I thought they were about to have sex.
• 45:25
  Carmen Lezeth: It's worse than this.
• 45:27
  Carmen Lezeth: It's worse than that.
• 45:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, he was to have sex.
• 45:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It's worse than this.
• 45:33
  Maurio Dawson: It's worse than that okay, he was peeing.
• 45:34
  Carmen Lezeth: He was urinating and she was about to and she saw me.
• 45:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I stopped cold.
• 45:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like what is happening?
• 45:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And I said that out loud like yeah, I had my headset on and he said he kept going.
• 45:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Now he was going around the tree and you could tell she was look at your face.
• 45:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I did a tiktok on this.
• 45:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Not of them.
• 45:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Not of them when I can't I live on a side street of a very busy street, okay, a very well-known street, and I was shook.
• 46:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I was in my first thought Was it like let me pull out my phone and do a tick tock on this, you know what I mean?
• 46:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I was totally thrown and the woman was totally scattered, she was totally embarrassed or whatever.
• 46:25
  Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing.
• 46:26
  Carmen Lezeth: They were maybe in their thirties, they were not homeless.
• 46:30
  Carmen Lezeth: They looked well-dressed.
• 46:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, if they were homeless, it's recently or something.
• 46:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Here's the thing.
• 46:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I was there for like at least a minute because I did not know what to do, did you?
• 46:42
  Maurio Dawson: set up a crowdfunding for them.
• 46:46
  Carmen Lezeth: What about my mental health For my trauma?
• 46:49
  Alma Dawson: What about my mental health, my trauma?
• 46:50
  Alma Dawson: I set up a crowd for me, for a spotlight to get close right there.
• 46:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Whenever anything moves, it just, oh my God the thing is it was during the day, it wasn't nighttime, it was during the day, not during the day.
• 47:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm far from a main street they could have gone to a restaurant, not even a restaurant restaurant.
• 47:12
  Carmen Lezeth: We have three bathrooms.
• 47:13
  Alma Dawson: I live two blocks from the beach there's people exposing themselves and there's children around what I'm trying to say is I was shook.
• 47:20
  Carmen Lezeth: There were other people, there was a couple walking towards me and I was like they're going to see this, and when I saw them coming, that's when I kept walking.
• 47:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But my point is I was shook, I was shook, shook it and I.
• 47:35
  Carmen Lezeth: My thought process wasn't like let me find my phone we are different because I've been like what the are you doing?
• 47:42
  Alma Dawson: yeah, well, I did say that I was like what?
• 47:44
  Alma Dawson: And then my salvadorian comes out and I would have been like I think you and Cynthia would have handled it differently.
• 47:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I was shocked.
• 47:54
  Maurio Dawson: Alma and Cynthia are the same.
• 47:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, what the?
• 47:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel like there's kids.
• 48:00
  Alma Dawson: here there's people.
• 48:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I know when the couple walked by, because my house was right there.
• 48:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I know there's a coffee shop around the corner.
• 48:08
  Alma Dawson: I heard them say something what I'm like.
• 48:10
  Alma Dawson: I know there's a coffee shop around the corner.
• 48:10
  Alma Dawson: I heard them say something what I'm like.
• 48:12
  Alma Dawson: I know there's a coffee shop around the corner.
• 48:13
  Alma Dawson: Go get a code and use the right one.
• 48:15
  Alma Dawson: You know what?
• 48:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I honestly wish I, when I came home, is when I did the TikTok.
• 48:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I could not and it took me like an hour.
• 48:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I couldn't even I was.
• 48:28
  Alma Dawson: That's why I don't want to see your kibbles and bits there's no shame.
• 48:33
  Carmen Lezeth: There's no shame.
• 48:34
  Carmen Lezeth: This is a very wealthy area.
• 48:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't know why you've been out of Boston for too long we'll do another show on all about the joy of fetishes is that what this was?
• 48:51
  Maurio Dawson: it's really a fetish how about in public.
• 48:53
  Maurio Dawson: Exhibition.
• 48:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think it.
• 48:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know what they were R Kelly-ing?
• 48:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, it's just Cynthia stop.
• 49:02
  Maurio Dawson: Y'all listen, they get their rocks off about doing that stuff.
• 49:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you're I didn't even.
• 49:12
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, it's a thing, we're a couple.
• 49:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's a couple.
• 49:16
  Alma Dawson: Yeah it's a thing, you actually helped them.
• 49:21
  Carmen Lezeth: You helped them.
• 49:22
  Alma Dawson: You saw her face oh.
• 49:25
  Maurio Dawson: Do you see her face?
• 49:26
  Maurio Dawson: That was good.
• 49:26
  Maurio Dawson: Let's go.
• 49:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Why are you doing?
• 49:29
  Carmen Lezeth: You know I'm fighting with you now.
• 49:29
  Carmen Lezeth: The whole show was good, let's go.
• 49:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Why are you doing?
• 49:30
  Carmen Lezeth: You know I'm fighting with you now.
• 49:31
  Carmen Lezeth: The whole show is me and you fighting today.
• 49:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, I helped you.
• 49:40
  Maurio Dawson: You helped them get their rocks off.
• 49:41
  Maurio Dawson: Good for you.
• 49:42
  Maurio Dawson: Good for you.
• 49:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I couldn't understand.
• 49:46
  Carmen Lezeth: All they had to do is go on your phone and do bathroom and it'll show you.
• 49:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm right here at the beach.
• 49:52
  Carmen Lezeth: There are bathrooms, right there.
• 49:55
  Maurio Dawson: It's the excitement of possibly getting caught, and so you help them get caught Going to the bathroom is a fetish.
• 50:04
  Maurio Dawson: That's disgusting.
• 50:05
  Maurio Dawson: You've heard of golden showers.
• 50:07
  Maurio Dawson: Stop it.
• 50:08
  Maurio Dawson: You know what that is.
• 50:09
  Maurio Dawson: Stop it See now that is.
• 50:11
  Maurio Dawson: Stop it See now.
• 50:12
  Maurio Dawson: You know, see your face.
• 50:12
  Maurio Dawson: Just told you.
• 50:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sitting there thinking about Donald Trump.
• 50:14
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why.
• 50:15
  Maurio Dawson: But still, you know what it was.
• 50:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I did not realize.
• 50:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't even dawn on me, did you guys, cynthia?
• 50:23
  Alma Dawson: and Ricky, did you not?
• 50:23
  Alma Dawson: I didn't think about that part either.
• 50:27
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I was just like Cynthia, they could have also tried to like they were about to have sex and they were like saw somebody coming like let's play it off.
• 50:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Let me just.
• 50:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean and it was a lot he was peeing.
• 50:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't see it at first, but then I looked at him because I thought they were going to have sex.
• 50:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing I'm talking about.
• 50:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm talking about on the street, like you walk out of people their home, it's right there.
• 50:51
  Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing I'm talking about on the street.
• 50:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, like you walk out of people their home, it's right there.
• 50:54
  Carmen Lezeth: They weren't hiding I think you're right, Mario.
• 50:57
  Maurio Dawson: Didn't even go in.
• 50:58
  Maurio Dawson: No, it is a thing, you're right.
• 50:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it was that it's a fetish.
• 51:00
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a fetish and she got embarrassed.
• 51:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, he kept going and he just went around the tree.
• 51:07
  Carmen Lezeth: He kept going and he just went around the tree.
• 51:08
  Carmen Lezeth: And then the other two couples the couple that came towards me, I felt bad because I'm like I'm just going into my house, I went down my alleyway or whatever.
• 51:15
  Carmen Lezeth: The other two couples you could hear them doing what?
• 51:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Like they were yelling something they were yelling at them something.
• 51:23
  Maurio Dawson: It's a thing You're welcome.
• 51:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Listen, look at her face.
• 51:28
  Maurio Dawson: She helped, you did it, you did your job.
• 51:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Great Is this joy for you.
• 51:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario, do you feel better now?
• 51:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Is this the?
• 51:38
  Rick Costa: joy.
• 51:39
  Rick Costa: This is the joy.
• 51:40
  Maurio Dawson: She said hi, welcome.
• 51:41
  Maurio Dawson: My name is Carmen.
• 51:42
  Maurio Dawson: I have a show called All About the Joy.
• 51:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm bringing you joy today.
• 51:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And I'm going to talk about it on my show.
• 51:52
  Carmen Lezeth: This is terrible.
• 51:53
  Carmen Lezeth: This was a horrible show I'm not airing it.
• 51:55
  Carmen Lezeth: It was horrible, ew.
• 51:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Now I'm grossed out even more in a whole different icky way.
• 52:02
  Maurio Dawson: What can I say?
• 52:03
  Maurio Dawson: She's going to go and take another shower after the show.
• 52:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Ew, you know what I think that you know what it is.
• 52:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel stupid.
• 52:10
  Carmen Lezeth: It didn't even dawn on me, didn't even dawn on me.
• 52:14
  Carmen Lezeth: All.
• 52:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I can do is put up.
• 52:15
  Carmen Lezeth: No shame.
• 52:17
  Maurio Dawson: You can do a follow up TikTok.
• 52:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not doing a follow up TikTok.
• 52:22
  Alma Dawson: I'm changing the subject.
• 52:24
  Alma Dawson: We're not going to talk about that anymore.
• 52:25
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, there's no shame, though.
• 52:27
  Alma Dawson: There's no shame.
• 52:29
  Rick Costa: It's a trend, but it ain't on TikTok.
• 52:32
  Carmen Lezeth: That part.
• 52:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, all right.
• 52:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, all right.
• 52:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, that was a great show.
• 52:37
  Carmen Lezeth: It's time to end this.
• 52:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It's time to end it.
• 52:42
  Alma Dawson: So we're going to say so, since it's National Teachers Week, make sure you thank a teacher.
• 52:45
  Alma Dawson: Thank you, alma.
• 52:47
  Alma Dawson: Thank you, Alma.
• 52:48
  Alma Dawson: You don't have to do it in person, but you can, you know, make a donation to your local school or send some muffins just door.
• 52:57
  Alma Dawson: Dash it just say thank you.
• 52:59
  Alma Dawson: Wait, do you guys?
• 53:00
  Carmen Lezeth: really accept door dash muffins at a school?
• 53:03
  Alma Dawson: yeah, I mean they're being sent from a company.
• 53:05
  Alma Dawson: It's not like you're walking them in.
• 53:06
  Alma Dawson: You can put in if you're sending them from a company, like if you, you know, order some cookies from you know different places.
• 53:13
  Alma Dawson: And then, week after next is for all the other staff.
• 53:18
  Alma Dawson: All the other school staff get appreciated.
• 53:20
  Alma Dawson: So you can thank a teacher, assistant or, you know, your school nurse or the front office people, anyone you want to thank at the schools.
• 53:27
  Alma Dawson: Just Thank them.
• 53:29
  Alma Dawson: Just thank them.
• 53:34
  Maurio Dawson: Okay, thank my old teacher and bring them some joy.
• 53:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, bring them some joy, for sure, I'd love to see my older kids come back.
• 53:41
  Alma Dawson: I really do.
• 53:41
  Alma Dawson: Like I said, I've attended weddings and christenings for their babies.
• 53:46
  Alma Dawson: Really, things like that, oh, yeah, yeah.
• 53:48
  Alma Dawson: Graduations all the way from their middle school to college, phds, all of that good stuff, so yeah she has.
• 53:56
  Maurio Dawson: One of her former students is nfl player.
• 53:59
  Alma Dawson: Yeah, so yeah so yeah very cool yeah, so it's nice.
• 54:03
  Alma Dawson: We'd like to see all of our kids come back.
• 54:05
  Alma Dawson: So you know, even if you think there might not be anybody there, they love to see.
• 54:09
  Alma Dawson: You know, kids come back and and just share their their stories.
• 54:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't know.
• 54:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, go ahead, Rick.
• 54:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry.
• 54:16
  Rick Costa: It was that story of.
• 54:18
  Rick Costa: It was an elderly woman.
• 54:19
  Rick Costa: She's in the hospital, she's very nervous because she has to have a procedure and she's scared.
• 54:22
  Rick Costa: And then a doctor comes and sees her and tells her I was one of your students, I was the troubled kid, what's your name?
• 54:32
  Rick Costa: And she said, he said the name.
• 54:34
  Rick Costa: Oh my God, I remember.
• 54:35
  Rick Costa: You're a doctor.
• 54:38
  Carmen Lezeth: He was a surgeon yeah.
• 54:41
  Rick Costa: It was like such a beautiful story.
• 54:43
  Alma Dawson: It's so awesome.
• 54:44
  Alma Dawson: It really is.
• 54:44
  Alma Dawson: I'd love to see it.
• 54:46
  Alma Dawson: I'd love to see our kids come back and just see how they're doing, and some of them are doing really well.
• 54:51
  Alma Dawson: Some of them they've had their struggles but they're still persevering.
• 54:55
  Alma Dawson: So that's the thing that they think of.
• 55:00
  Alma Dawson: Enough of you to come back and say hey, I remember when you used to sit me down and talk to me and tell me the things that I could do with my life.
• 55:04
  Alma Dawson: I just use my powers for good.
• 55:05
  Alma Dawson: That's my line.
• 55:07
  Alma Dawson: Powers for good, that's my line.
• 55:08
  Alma Dawson: Use your powers for good.
• 55:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, everyone, use your powers for good.
• 55:12
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yes.
• 55:14
  Rick Costa: For God's sake, find a bathroom.
• 55:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, use a bathroom.
• 55:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, God's sake.
• 55:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey everyone, we're going to wind this down.
• 55:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm really grossed out now, but there's a bathroom for that.
• 55:30
  Rick Costa: The title of this episode is people that have no shame the title of this episode, listen everyone thank you so much, we're on.
• 55:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys are making it hard for me to end this right now.
• 55:43
  Carmen Lezeth: This is a private lounge, okay you know what this is?
• 55:48
  Carmen Lezeth: a private lounge.
• 55:49
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to end it now.
• 55:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Listen at the end of the day, remember.
• 55:51
  Carmen Lezeth: It really is all about the joy.
• 55:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Take care this week.
• 55:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Bye, Bye everyone.
• 56:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by.
• 56:02
  Carmen Lezeth: All About the Joy Be better and stay beautiful.
• 56:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Folks have a sweet day.