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The Kenny Report | 17 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. Let's get into another week on
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  Speaker 3: the Kenny Report. Tonight, the Chinese premiers visit undermined by
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  Speaker 3: a classic case of Beijing bullying new revelations about the
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  Speaker 3: Islamist organization behind many pro Palestinian protests, while Jerry Seinfeld
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  Speaker 3: slammed dunks and anti Israel heckler, Pauline Hanson's Please Explain
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  Speaker 3: cartoon kicks up a fuss with the Crocodile Hunter's Son
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  Speaker 3: and the greatest Ossie songs of the.
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  Speaker 1: Past sixty years? Did your favorite miss the list?
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  Speaker 3: Plus Gemytonieni tonight Caroline Drusso as well Sophie Ellsworth and
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  Speaker 3: the Great Paul Murray.
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  Speaker 1: So much to cram and we better get started.
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  Speaker 3: The full on charm offensive was on display in Canberra
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  Speaker 3: today for the visit of China's two ICEE Premier League
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  Speaker 3: Kwang Anthony Albanezi keeps saying our relationship has been stabilized,
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  Speaker 3: which is a pretty weird boast because it's then stabilized
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  Speaker 3: in a bad place, with China still imposing punitive tariffs
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  Speaker 3: and bands on some of our produce and still not
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  Speaker 3: apologizing for aggressively putting the lives of our.
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  Speaker 1: Defense force personnel at risk.
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  Speaker 3: I think Johann Sleek might have got it right with
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  Speaker 3: this cartoon this morning, showing Anthony Alberinezi as a picking ease,
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  Speaker 3: stabilizing the relationship and claiming to maintain self respect while
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  Speaker 3: being on the Beijing leash. The Prime Minister gave only
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  Speaker 3: the gentlest pushback against the communist superpower.
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  Speaker 4: Today, Australia advocates that we should all work together to
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  Speaker 4: promote a regional balance where no country dominates and no
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  Speaker 4: country is dominated, a region where country is large and
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  Speaker 4: small operate by the same rules, rules that we have
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  Speaker 4: all had to say in shaping.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's hardly a big ask, is it.
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  Speaker 3: But for his part, Premier Lie he seemed to hint
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  Speaker 3: that he wants us to behave.
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  Speaker 5: Mister Prime Minister, I sincerely hope that during my current visit,
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  Speaker 5: I will work with you to build a more mature,
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  Speaker 5: stable and fruitful, comprehensive strategic partnership, putting our two countries
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  Speaker 5: to deliver more benefits to our two peoples.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, let's all be more mature by imposing tariffs and
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  Speaker 3: intimidating our Defense Force personnel. The bully boy tactics of
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  Speaker 3: China were there for all to see. Today when our
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  Speaker 3: own Chang Lay, who disgracefully was detained by China for
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  Speaker 3: three years on unspecified charges, well, she went along to
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  Speaker 3: report on the Parliament House press conference and received unwelcome
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  Speaker 3: attention from Chinese officials.
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  Speaker 6: I was sitting behind the Chinese ministers, and I think
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  Speaker 6: for Chinese media to get a wide shot would have
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  Speaker 6: had me in it. He directed the embassy officials to
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  Speaker 6: stay on her, and so that's why you know, Chinese
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  Speaker 6: Lan stood right in front of me.
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  Speaker 7: And he was told by the Ossie.
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  Speaker 6: Media officials to go away, and there was almost a kerfaffle.
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  Speaker 1: Just idiotic and terrible behavior.
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  Speaker 3: China just doesn't seem to comprehend freedom, at least on
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  Speaker 3: this occasion. The Australian officials tried to help out, but
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  Speaker 3: outside Parliament, where pro and anti China camps gathered, protesters
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  Speaker 3: seemed to get short shrift from our authorities. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 3: protests against China were kept very much in check by
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  Speaker 3: a heavy police presence, making sure there was minimal embarrassment
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  Speaker 3: to the Beijing delegation.
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  Speaker 1: It was the same story.
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  Speaker 3: In Adelaide at the weekend, where Wiga and other protesters
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  Speaker 3: were kept well in check so that official diplomacy could
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  Speaker 3: proceed uninterrupted, and ordinarily there wouldn't be anything really wrong
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  Speaker 3: with this. Security is important, but compare the heavy handed
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  Speaker 3: police present to protect the dignity of the Chinese delegation
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  Speaker 3: to the way police and authorities have stood back and
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  Speaker 3: even facilitated the most hateful and offensive protests by pro
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian and pro Humas mobs seeking to intimidate Jewish Australians
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  Speaker 3: and even overshadow the Opera House commemoration of Israel's slaughtered
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  Speaker 3: innocence of October seventh. Yeah, our police can control protests
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  Speaker 3: when they want to. The heavy handliness during COVID, of
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  Speaker 3: course and again today, but it's been notable by its
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  Speaker 3: absence when it comes to the anti Israeli mobs. Let's
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  Speaker 3: get some more on this China delegation from Michael Schubridge
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  Speaker 3: from Strategic and Analysis Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again, Michael.
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  Speaker 3: First up, do you think both the Australian Prime Minister
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  Speaker 3: and the Chinese Premier.
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  Speaker 1: Will see this as a successful visit so far?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I think state media back in Beijing.
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  Speaker 9: Will be pretty pleased with the stage managed triumphal footage
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  Speaker 9: that they have got out of this. But if the
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  Speaker 9: Prime Minister thinks this has been a success, I think
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  Speaker 9: he's gravely mistaken. All of this fake goodwill and the
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  Speaker 9: desperate authoritarian bubble that the Albanese government have put around
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  Speaker 9: this visit only shows how we have no trust in
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  Speaker 9: this relationship, and it shows the enormous gap between the
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  Speaker 9: Australian population who distrust the Chinese government and this fake
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  Speaker 9: celebratory visit that the government has confected.
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  Speaker 3: Well, come to chang Lei's experience in just a moment,
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  Speaker 3: but before we go there, I want to focus on
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  Speaker 3: this idea that Anthony Alberaneesian Penny won't keep going on
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  Speaker 3: about saying the relationship has been stabilized. Now as I
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  Speaker 3: sit in that intro, if it's stabilized, then it's stabilized
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  Speaker 3: in a very bad place, hasn't it, Because we still
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  Speaker 3: have Chinese trade sanctions against us for nothing, for nothing
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  Speaker 3: that expressing sensible views as a sovereign nation. And we're
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  Speaker 3: also seeing no apology and no step back from the
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  Speaker 3: military intimidation that the Chinese armed forces have leveled at
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  Speaker 3: our defense force personnel.
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  Speaker 9: No, So Premier Leave said we should shelve our differences,
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  Speaker 9: and what he means by that is Australia should shelve
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  Speaker 9: any differences we have with Beijing and let Beijing get on.
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  Speaker 9: We're doing exactly what they want, and one of those
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  Speaker 9: things is using its military deliberately and dangerously in ways
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  Speaker 9: that are going to cause injury and death to the
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  Speaker 9: servicemen and women in our military. Now, mister Albanezi says
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  Speaker 9: he's got dialogue that will manage that. Well, let's see
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  Speaker 9: the Chinese military stop and endangering our military in the region.
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  Speaker 9: So far, there are no successes to this stabilization where
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  Speaker 9: we've apparently achieved, only these fake visits with distrust just underneath.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: They don't understand the way a free society operates. We
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  Speaker 3: saw that with the press conference today, the attempt to
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  Speaker 3: screen out Shield Chang Lai at.
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  Speaker 1: The press conference. This is a woman that they.
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  Speaker 3: Incarcerated in China for three years for essentially nothing, under
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  Speaker 3: very very obscure references to national security. And then after
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  Speaker 3: this was shown and created a kifaffle, we heard our own.
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister give a press conference.
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  Speaker 3: Sometime later, when obviously he would have been briefed about this.
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  Speaker 1: And he claimed not to know anything about it. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 7: I saw.
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  Speaker 1: Chang Laam. We smiled at each other. Isn't that pathetic,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Schubritch.
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  Speaker 3: He's pretending he didn't know anything about it so that
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't have to say anything that will offend the Chinese.
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  Speaker 9: Well, remember when he met Chi Jinping in San Diego,
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  Speaker 9: days after the Chinese military had injured one of our
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  Speaker 9: navy divers. Didn't feel he could raise anything uncomfortable there either.
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  Speaker 9: So his whole way of operating is to stick his
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  Speaker 9: fingers in his ears and close his eyes and pretend
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  Speaker 9: if he claps his heels together, he'll be back in
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  Speaker 9: Kansas surrounded by unicorns and rainbows. He cannot face the
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  Speaker 9: China challenge and his policy, he knows, is a failing one.
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  Speaker 9: So I think it's appalling behavior. And have this authoritarian
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  Speaker 9: bubble that Premier Lee has traveled in right here in
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  Speaker 9: the heart of our democracy, I think is just abhorrent.
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  Speaker 1: It's a worry you go to.
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  Speaker 3: They're on the way to West Australia, now where there's
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  Speaker 3: no shortage of commercial and governmental sycophancy towards China because
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  Speaker 3: they rely on it so heavily for their mineral exports.
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  Speaker 3: Do we expect that Premier Lee will throw another gift
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  Speaker 3: on the table as he leaves, perhaps allowing lobster exports,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps just allowing some of our trade that they have
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  Speaker 3: punished us with the trade bands on to resume.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 9: I think that's for lesser Communist Party underlings than Premier
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  Speaker 9: Lee to throw another bone to the Australian government.
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  Speaker 1: I think what he's doing in Western.
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  Speaker 9: Australia is telling the federal and state governments to let
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  Speaker 9: Chinese companies do what they want to get hold of
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  Speaker 9: critical mimerals, because he knows that, at least in that
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  Speaker 9: area of policy, we occasionally say no.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Michael, appreciate your analysis, Michael Schubrid's
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  Speaker 3: They're Alive from Canberra.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 3: American comedian Jerry Seinfeld performed in Sydney last night. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a Seinfeld fan like me, you'll know that
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  Speaker 3: Seinfeld is about as political as a sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: He just doesn't do politics.
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  Speaker 3: He does laughs, He does wordplay, he does the hilarity
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  Speaker 3: of the human condition. But of course he's a Jewish American.
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  Speaker 3: So the modern pro Palestinian mob they figured that interrupt
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  Speaker 3: his show and Seinfeld, well, he hit the heckler for
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  Speaker 3: six or in American terms, he hit him out of
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  Speaker 3: the park.
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  Speaker 8: It's a show tomorrow and we will read in the
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  Speaker 8: paper Middle East one percent sah thanks to man at
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  Speaker 8: the Kudos arena stopping to comedian. They stopped him, and
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  Speaker 8: everyone in the Middle East went, oh my god, let's
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  Speaker 8: just get a long We can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, forget defense and diplomacy. The new route to world
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  Speaker 3: peace is hounding comedians based on their religious affiliations. This
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  Speaker 3: is the tyranny of what was once called the tolerant left.
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  Speaker 3: Now my kids tell me I cite a Seinfeld reference
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  Speaker 3: for every life situation. Well, now we've got one for
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  Speaker 3: the idiotic intolerance of.
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  Speaker 1: Cancel culture too. Now.
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  Speaker 3: While Seinfeld was performing there in Sydney last night, Channel
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  Speaker 3: nine to sixty minutes across the country was running a
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  Speaker 3: very important story about the hateful Islamist forces behind the
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  Speaker 3: pro Palestinian or anti Israel protests.
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  Speaker 10: This is shaking Ibraham to do a prominent Sydney cleric.
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  Speaker 3: Onlyindrance is Zionismism, and you are here to ensigns.
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  Speaker 10: It's a message of hate, the abolition of the state
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  Speaker 10: of Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that Shak might seem familiar to you. That's because
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  Speaker 3: I've shown footage of Shake the dude many times, his
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  Speaker 3: sickening glorification of the October the seventh Hummas slaughter. And
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  Speaker 3: he did that just hours after more than fourteen hundred
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  Speaker 3: Israelis were killed, maimed or kidnapped simply for being Jewish.
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  Speaker 11: I'm smily, I'm smiling, and I'm happy, I'm in Zatan.
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  Speaker 11: That's a day of courage.
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  Speaker 3: Such a depraved celebration on our streets now sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Mackenzie, in this story last night approached the Shikh.
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  Speaker 1: The Shake is not keen to talk to me.
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  Speaker 2: Using social media to spread his message does show your support.
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  Speaker 10: The group behind the video is the innocently enough named
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  Speaker 10: Stand for Palestine. But Stand for Palestine is really a facade,
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  Speaker 10: a campaign platform being secretly organized in part by his
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  Speaker 10: Bookteria and International Islamist Organizational Slam political part which in
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  Speaker 10: January was outlawed as a terrorist outfit in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, his book Toia, they operate legally in this country.
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  Speaker 1: I've focused on them many times over the years.
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  Speaker 3: They are committed to Islamism, that is, they want a
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  Speaker 3: global caliphate, they want the elimination of Israel. They want
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  Speaker 3: only Sharia law to operate anywhere, including here in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: So the only difference between them and Islamist terrorist groups
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  Speaker 3: is that his book Teria say they do not condone violence.
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  Speaker 3: They want the same outcomes, but they claim they can
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  Speaker 3: do that without violence. Now, just how you could deliver
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  Speaker 3: a global caliphate or eradicate Israel without violence is beyond
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  Speaker 3: my comprehension, I've got to say, but that public essuing
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  Speaker 3: of violence is the key reason they've remained legal in Australia,
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  Speaker 3: even though they are banned in many countries, most recently
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  Speaker 3: in the UK, as you just saw. Now, As you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've said since October last year that what Sheik Dadud
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  Speaker 3: said amounted to hate speech and the authorities should have
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  Speaker 3: acted instead. All this hatred directed at Jewish Australians, the
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  Speaker 3: chance of f the Jews, where's the Jews? Gas the Jews?
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  Speaker 3: Staggeringly has led to zero arrests, zero response from our
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  Speaker 3: political and law enforcement authorities. This is not only a
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  Speaker 3: direct threat against Jews and their supporters, it's a threat
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  Speaker 3: against our values. It's against pluralism, liberalism, tolerance, and democracy.
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  Speaker 3: Insidious forces are at work, and silence is complicity, and
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  Speaker 3: inaction by governments is capitulation. Now, American commentator and author
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  Speaker 3: Brett Stevens is currently visiting Australia to speak at events
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  Speaker 3: for the Center for Independent Studies.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike Jerry Seinfeld.
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  Speaker 3: Stephens is an American Jew in this country to speak
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  Speaker 3: about politics, and he joins me, now, good to speak
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  Speaker 3: to you, Brett, I really appreciate your time. It must
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  Speaker 3: be it wouldn't surprise you, of course, because you know
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  Speaker 3: the ways of the world. But to see a shike
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  Speaker 3: on a street corner in the suburbs of Sydney preaching
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  Speaker 3: such height against the Jews and such celebration of the
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  Speaker 3: atrocities of October the seventh is so confronting for ours society,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Unfortunately, it's the same story in my own hometown
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  Speaker 12: of New York City, Chris, where protesters on a New
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  Speaker 12: York Subway streetcar tried to have a kind of a
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  Speaker 12: Juden Raus moment by trying to force quote unquote Zionists
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  Speaker 12: out of the car protesting in favor of the October
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  Speaker 12: seventh massacres outside of a museum dedicated to memorializing the
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  Speaker 12: victims of the Nova Music Festival. So, whether in Sydney,
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  Speaker 12: New York, London or other capitals, this is a worldwide
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  Speaker 12: phenomenon of extremism, anti Semitism, and as you just pointed out,
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  Speaker 12: really a threat more than just to Jews, but to
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  Speaker 12: democratic values everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is not a new threat.
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  Speaker 3: There's an ideology here afoot, the Islamist ideology, and we've
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  Speaker 3: known what a threat it is for many decades, of course,
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  Speaker 3: especially since.
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  Speaker 1: Nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: To what extent in Western liberal democracies have we just dropped.
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  Speaker 1: The ball in combating that ideology.
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  Speaker 3: Organizations like his book to Rea have continued to operate
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  Speaker 3: legally in countries like Australia, and they essentially preach this
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  Speaker 3: Islamist message.
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  Speaker 12: Well, look, whether in Australia or elsewhere in the Western
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  Speaker 12: democratic world, we obviously subscribe to ideas of free speech,
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  Speaker 12: and that means broad latitude for hateful ideas. But what
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  Speaker 12: really depresses me and astounds me is that too often
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  Speaker 12: the allies of people like the Imam. You just showcase
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  Speaker 12: the allies they have come from the political left, from
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  Speaker 12: so called progressive forces, And to me, it's just incomprehensible
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  Speaker 12: that people who, at least in the context of Western societies,
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  Speaker 12: are for gay rights, women's rights, the right to dissent,
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  Speaker 12: the right to a pluralistic society, choose to be fellow travelers,
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  Speaker 12: in this case with the most theocratic, fundamentalists and totalitarian
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  Speaker 12: movements anywhere. Whether it's his Buttarier in London or Hamas
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  Speaker 12: in Gaza, or other Islamist movements around the world. These
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  Speaker 12: are movements who pose the gravest challenge to not just
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  Speaker 12: Western values but also the very values that progressives purport
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  Speaker 12: to champion and defend.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a lot of the course, by the oxymoronic
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  Speaker 3: for Palestine that we see around the place. You just
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  Speaker 3: can't get your head around that sort of stupidity, and
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  Speaker 3: it brings us to the point, especially when we're looking
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  Speaker 3: at the university protests that are ongoing here in Australia
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  Speaker 3: and of course in your home country, these long term encampments,
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  Speaker 3: to what extent are we to blame for such a
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  Speaker 3: poor education system? To what extent are we completely ignorant
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  Speaker 3: about the forces at play here?
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  Speaker 12: Well, at list, I don't know what it's like in Australia.
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  Speaker 12: At least in the United States, the encampments and those
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  Speaker 12: protests have largely been confined to some of the most elite,
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  Speaker 12: or I should put in quotation marks elite universities Columbia, Yale, Harvard,
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  Speaker 12: Berkeley in California, UCLA. It's not a phenomenon you'll find
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  Speaker 12: at the University of Nebraska or at Purdue University. So
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  Speaker 12: it's confined to specific places that have been teaching particular
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  Speaker 12: kind of ideology and cultivating a worldview where there are
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  Speaker 12: which is a kind of a binary Manichean view of
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  Speaker 12: the righteously, of the righteous oppressed and the vile oppressors
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  Speaker 12: that has very little room for nuance or critical thinking.
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  Speaker 12: Really actually demonstrates more than anything else, the bankruptcy of
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  Speaker 12: some of these institutions of higher learning in terms of
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  Speaker 12: the students they select for admission and the ways in
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  Speaker 12: which they are are being taught. But it is not
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  Speaker 12: to viewers in Australia who might have a different impression.
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  Speaker 12: This is not a mass phenomenon in the United States,
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  Speaker 12: in fact, when younger voters were asked what issues mattered
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  Speaker 12: to them, it was only about two percent of younger
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  Speaker 12: voters aged eighteen to twenty nine who said that Gaza
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  Speaker 12: was at the top of their priorities. They care about
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  Speaker 12: issues like the economy, inflation, immigration. This is a phenomena
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  Speaker 12: relegated to particular places in our culture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think in Australia too, it's a very
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  Speaker 3: small minority of activist students. The trouble is the universities
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  Speaker 3: are so weak in disciplining them or at least containing
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  Speaker 3: the protest that it affects all students, that affects the
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  Speaker 3: operation of the universities. Let me go from these matters
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  Speaker 3: of our own culture to what's playing out on the
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  Speaker 3: ground in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: And just get your thoughts on that, Brett.
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  Speaker 3: Benjamin Netanyahu obviously as Prime minister failed his country in
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  Speaker 3: the way October the seventh happened. It was obviously in
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  Speaker 3: intelligence failure and a border defense failure. Is he the
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  Speaker 3: man to finish the war, to eliminate, eliminate Hamas and
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  Speaker 3: finish this war or could we see a change in
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  Speaker 3: leadership in Israel before that is done.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I have argued publicly in my Carlum in the
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  Speaker 12: New York Times that he's he's not. And you know,
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  Speaker 12: the argument that Who has put forward is that you know,
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  Speaker 12: you don't want to change your horse mid stream, so
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  Speaker 12: to speak. And he started the war and he should
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  Speaker 12: finish it. If you think of what the British did
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  Speaker 12: in the First World War, they cashiered a failing prime minister,
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  Speaker 12: asked with and asked Lloyd George to step up, and
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  Speaker 12: in fact that's how they were able to win the war.
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: So my view is Israel would benefit from a new
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: leadership who someone who has fewer political interests for wanting
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: to extend the war for longer than it has to go.
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: But Israeli politics, precisely because in some ways it's a
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: small country, are are very complicated, and it's unlikely to
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: me that his It seems unlikely to me that his
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: coalition is going to fall anytime soon. If it does fall,
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: the likeliest successor to him will not be the opposition
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: leader Benny Gonzer ye er Lapede. It will be his
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: ownly cou colleague, the Defense Minister, mister Gallant, who probably
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: has more credibility than he does to hopefully successfully conclude
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: the war with Hamas and perhaps gird for a coming
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: war with his baller in the North. Because I think,
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: sadly and tragically this conflict is not close to its end.
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: It might not even be close to the beginning of
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: the end, or even the end of the beginning.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Right Defense Minister, go out. The other man, of course,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: targeted by the International Criminal Court. But that's a whole
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: nother wormhole. We don't have time to go down now.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us, Brett.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy your stay in Australia. Brett Stevens
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: on your show, Great stuff. Brett Stevens in New York
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Times Columnists. He's speaking in Sydney tomorrow night and in
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Melbourne later in the week.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: If you want to go to.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: The CIS website, that's CIS dot org dot au.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: You can have a look at details for that and get.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yourself along one of the brightest, most informed and more contrarian,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: free minded columnists in the Western speaking world. Now coming
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: up after the break, gematon Nini and Caroline de Rousso,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the border force turning back
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: yet another boat and Barack Obama gives Joe Biden a
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: helping hand.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And don't you know he needs it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Let's sort out the problems of the world with Gematonienni
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: from GT Communications here on the desk with me, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: of course Royal Report hosts Carolinders.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So in Perth, we've got so much to get through.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I want to start. Well, while you're at Perth, let's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: start with you. Another boat intercepted. We can't spend too
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: much time on this, Caroline. But honestly, it just keeps happening.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Labor can't pretend this problem has not re emerged.
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: No, they can't pretend. They're trying their hardest to make
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: it look like it's not a problem that has re
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: emerged because they have just such a hideous record on
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: protecting Australian borders. But this stuff will keep popping up
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: in the papers because it will keep happening. And the
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: Australian public aren't stupid. They've seen Labor fail dismally on
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: this before and expect more of the same.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Labor hopes it won't make the medium, so we'll talk
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: about it here on Sky. They're hoping that Channel seven
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: and Channel nine won't focus on it much.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Eventually us will filter through.
• 25:07
  Speaker 14: I mean, it's all. It's all people are talking about
• 25:09
  Speaker 14: at the moment. It's the debarcle and immigration and the
• 25:12
  Speaker 14: cost of living. It's not complicated.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: It's this awful.
• 25:16
  Speaker 15: I don't know.
• 25:17
  Speaker 14: I look at the federal government and they're doing this
• 25:19
  Speaker 14: revolting look over their sort of thing, and as Caroline said,
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: they think we're stupid. They think the electorate is a
• 25:24
  Speaker 14: bunch of mugs who haven't been on this hobby horse
• 25:27
  Speaker 14: before and who don't know that we pay their bills,
• 25:30
  Speaker 14: they work for us, and they treat the electorate with contempt.
• 25:34
  Speaker 14: This is a failing. If it were if it were
• 25:36
  Speaker 14: a coalition government, it would be a failing.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now I want to get to Andy Semitism, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that's what it is. I want to talk about what
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld had to put up with, how he dealt
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: with it last night again, because the fact is that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld is not political. He's not out there day in.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Day going yeah yeah Israel and yeah yeah, Benjamin Netanyah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: He's about as a political as you can get. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: he was the protest as their propeller at.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: His gig last night, only only because he was Jewish.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But he's also very smart and he smacked him out
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: of the park.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I've looked again another bit.
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  Speaker 8: We have a genius ladyship, gentleman. He solved the Middle East.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: He solved them.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: It's the Jewish Maise, that's who we have to go ever,
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: the one's doing everything. You're really influencing everyone in there.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: We're all you're all on your sign now because you
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: made your points so well and in the right venue.
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: You've come in the right place. Or a political comportation.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he dealt with a brilliantly jemmy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: But the only reason he's been heckled there is because
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: he's Jewish.
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: This is the thing that the River from the River
• 26:55
  Speaker 14: to the Sea Collective and the federal government have to
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: start reckoning with. Because I went to an Orthodox synagogue
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: in Melbourne on Friday night and I spoke as a
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: community service, unpaid. And the only reason I say that
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: is because there are some revolting people out there in
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: the interweb, so I wanted to make that clear. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: did it as a community service. And I go to
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: church every Sunday. I walk through the gates of my church.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: There's no security.
• 27:17
  Speaker 14: There are no armed guards, but there was armed security
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: at an Orthodox synagogue in Melbourne for all of the
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: reasons that we know. Because anti Semitism in this country
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: has been allowed by the federal government to go unchecked.
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: And for whatever reason, the federal government currently and the
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: state government, particularly in Victoria, are not using the legislation
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: that is already in place to deal with this issue.
• 27:40
  Speaker 14: And you cannot hide. You cannot.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: There is a line in the sand.
• 27:46
  Speaker 14: It's impossible, there is no gray here if it's just
• 27:49
  Speaker 14: about being Jewish, and take the word Jewish out and
• 27:51
  Speaker 14: put Italian, Catholic, gay, straight, any other ethnicity of sexuality
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: or identity into that context, and we know it's wrong.
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: And that's how we know it's anti Semitism.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we would see government action there. It's such
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: an important point, Caroline. We've seen no government, no authorities,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: cracked down on.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: This sort of stuff.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And I highlighted the top of the program the brilliant
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: investigation by Channel nine showing the links of these protests
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: to his book to rear and that shaik Ga dude
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: who celebrated the slaughter of families on the streets.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And yet what that's not hate Bridge.
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: Well, it should be right, and this is the thing,
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: like when anyone looks at that, we just go actually,
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: hang on a second. The problem for the government, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: we've discussed this a number of times, is that you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: they know the difference between right and wrong, and they
• 28:43
  Speaker 13: also know the difference between winning and losing an election.
• 28:45
  Speaker 13: And unfortunately it appears that domestic politically imperatives are a
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: priority here over social cohesion, which I think will the
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: inn the long term end up being a problem for
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: this government because again, like I said, for Australians aren't stupid.
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: But what I would love to say about the way
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: that Jerry Seinfeld dealt with this is that I love
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: to see this sort of ridicule because that is the
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: only way that you can deal with this nonsense, jaundice,
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: mirthless stupidity from these people is to ridicule them.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And that's why the.
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: Whole place was laughing, because they can actually see the
• 29:28
  Speaker 13: total stupidity of doing something like that and what it
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: actually is, which, as we've discussed, it's incredibly anti semitic.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got to get onto American politics. But Jerry
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Seinfeld actually suggested, if you want to fix indigenous issues
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in Australia. Then on this logic, you should go and
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: interrupt an Australian comedian speaking in Americas. But let's go
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: to the US politics, the political situation at the moment
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: we are.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Don't get too excited. Ten more sleeps.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: We only have to wait ten more sleeps to the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: first presidential debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a ripper because he is Donald Trump.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And look at the clarity with which he pitches messages
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that I'm certain will resonate with a lot of Americans.
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: And day one, I was signing a new executive order
• 30:11
  Speaker 16: to cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory,
• 30:16
  Speaker 16: transgender and sanity, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: content onto the.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Lives of our children.
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: And I will not give one penny to any school
• 30:31
  Speaker 16: that has a vaccine.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: Mandate or a mask mandate.
• 30:40
  Speaker 16: And I will keep men out of women's sports.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Who's going to disagree with that and who doesn't know
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: exactly what he's saying. In the contrast to that was
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that Joe Biden flew back from the G seven straight
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: into Los Angeles for a big, multimillion dollar a fundraising
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: event with Barack Obama, and as the show's winding up,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Bor oled Barack Obama had to actually look after the
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: old guy and make sure you got off stage. Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I'd love to know what he's whispering in his ear there, Caroline.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Perhaps you know, come on, old fellow.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: We've got a nice warm cup of milk foil. You
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: have said enough now, But this this debate is going
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: to be a blood.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Bath, isn't it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 13: Well you would expect and if you and if you
• 31:43
  Speaker 13: look at those two examples there, they're not they're not
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: out there examples.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: We've seen plenty of.
• 31:48
  Speaker 13: Both of of of those two, you know, types of
• 31:53
  Speaker 13: displays out of both of those gentlemen. Look, I don't know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: What it's going to look like.
• 31:59
  Speaker 13: I'm going to be watching it. I'm going to have
• 32:01
  Speaker 13: my popcorn out for obvious reasons. But I actually look,
• 32:04
  Speaker 13: I think whatever's going on on the Democrat side of
• 32:07
  Speaker 13: things is incredibly sad. Joe Biden is evidently not a
• 32:11
  Speaker 13: well man, not a well man. And to think that
• 32:13
  Speaker 13: you walk off tod Age and you can't even quite
• 32:16
  Speaker 13: work out that you should probably wave to the audience
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: as you leave, as you shuffle on out.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: I think just looks absolutely sure.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: We are just about out of time.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: We are just it is hitting those points.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: You sure is very quickly. Jimmy, do you think trouble
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: bag a mill.
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: I'm going to make it an early, if not somewhat
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: bold call. It wouldn't surprise me if that debate, No, seriously,
• 32:36
  Speaker 14: wouldn't surprise me if that debate doesn't go ahead, if
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: Biden suddenly gets sick, gets Covid, gets Rhona Fied, falls
• 32:43
  Speaker 14: down the stairs, has to go hug Hunter, or something
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: happens to avoid that debate.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: You heard it here first, could do a national emergency
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of some kind. Thanks for joining us at Jemma and
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Caroline really appreciate.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to get to a break.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Paul Murray talking about the latest polls, which are very
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: good for Peter Dutton joined the debate about the sixty
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: greatest Ossie Songs of the past sixty years, and Robert
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Irwin threatens to sue Pauline Hansen over the Please Explain cartoons.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I'll speak with Mark Pickolson, of course from step Make
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Studios as well. Let's catch up with the great Paul
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Murray who gets out of bed early and comes in
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and joins.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Us here on a Monday night, or interrupted Nana that mud.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: We talked about polls last week, but I've got to
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: get your take on the polls again because this Channel
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: nine resolved polls in it very interesting because especially what
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: it says about Peter Dutton as a real alternative.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Well most important.
• 33:38
  Speaker 17: Two things are really important that are a little buried
• 33:40
  Speaker 17: away from the headlines.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: Firstly, you are seeing a fall away, dramatic fall away
• 33:44
  Speaker 17: for the government. However, what I find really interesting this
• 33:48
  Speaker 17: poll was in the market between Tuesday of last week
• 33:51
  Speaker 17: and Saturday of last week. Now the entire political establishment's
• 33:55
  Speaker 17: hair was on fire because of the conversations in around
• 33:58
  Speaker 17: twenty thirty. For that to have not affected the standings
• 34:01
  Speaker 17: of the Liberal Party or Peter Dutton really important. It
• 34:05
  Speaker 17: also shows there is a massive problem for labor in Queensland.
• 34:09
  Speaker 17: It is I mean literally the preferred prime minister rating
• 34:13
  Speaker 17: there is forty eight percent pro Dutton. And the third
• 34:17
  Speaker 17: and final bit is the people who put the poll together,
• 34:19
  Speaker 17: they ask questions as well as just get the data
• 34:22
  Speaker 17: and they say the comments that are coming back about
• 34:25
  Speaker 17: cost of living and interest rates have now turned nasty,
• 34:28
  Speaker 17: so people are now going to hold a government accountable
• 34:30
  Speaker 17: as they always should.
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: Have.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Two points on that.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: One is I think it just underscores why I've thought
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a really early election is just never on.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: They can't go before Queensland goes.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: They've got to allow the anti labor feeling in Queensland
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: go through the state election so that it helps the
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: federal government a bit better.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So if it goes this year, it's going to go late.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: But the other point is this thing that my observation
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: of over Poles over the eons is that quite often
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you'll see people turning on the government and the government
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: going down before the vote switches to the opposite. Now
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: they go in that sequence, so and I know that's
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: the way they'll be looking at it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, I want to be too too buoyant.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Here for the coalition, because there's a long way to
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: go and it's a first term government they normally get returned.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: But that's the sequence that they'd be very pleased to
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: see well.
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: And also don't forget the elections within the election that
• 35:19
  Speaker 17: of course take place right where for the government, Like
• 35:23
  Speaker 17: every first term government lose seats. That is just the
• 35:26
  Speaker 17: law of politics. It's the law of gravity, because there
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: are things that you won on the way in that
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: nobody expected you to win. Okay, So, and this government
• 35:34
  Speaker 17: doesn't have ninety seats like Abbott did or rud did.
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: It doesn't have even more seats like Howard did. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 17: that inevitable fallback means they are going to go into minority.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: The question is how deep. Now if they go.
• 35:48
  Speaker 17: Into minority and say, go as low as seventy two seats,
• 35:52
  Speaker 17: ironically they're going to be okay because there's enough people
• 35:56
  Speaker 17: on the cross bench that aren't Greens and aren't Teals.
• 35:58
  Speaker 17: If they go down to seventy then probably two of
• 36:01
  Speaker 17: the left wing Teels might get them there. Obviously the
• 36:03
  Speaker 17: Greens can give him four votes straight away. But so
• 36:08
  Speaker 17: while Albo will say, well, I still get to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 17: prime minister, the diminished nature of his prime ministership is
• 36:14
  Speaker 17: really coming home. And what does it tell us about
• 36:16
  Speaker 17: the professional political class who tell us, oh, Dunton's unelectable.
• 36:19
  Speaker 17: We'll guess what you can't possibly step back on your
• 36:23
  Speaker 17: twenty thirty targets. Guess what Australians in polling on climate
• 36:26
  Speaker 17: change has been the same since two thousand and seven,
• 36:29
  Speaker 17: ten thirteen, sixteen, nineteen and twenty two.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Do we want some action? Yes? Are we willing to
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: pay for it?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: No?
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: And we are paying for it now.
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: Look.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: The other thing is what happens after the election is
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: ourb and Easier said he wouldn't form coalition with the Greens.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Now this is double speak, right. He will govern with
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: the Greens happily, it just won't be a formal coalition.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: They agree to back the government on supply or whatever.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Whatever happens after the election. The Greens have more power
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: with labor and that is a real not only as
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: that a real worry for the country, but it's a
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: very powerful campaigning tool for Peter Dutton.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 37:05
  Speaker 17: I mean also, don't forget they can't get anything through
• 37:07
  Speaker 17: the Upper House without exact So the Greens are.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: Already the tail that's wagging the dog.
• 37:12
  Speaker 17: Should they end up in a scenario of minority while
• 37:14
  Speaker 17: they're own the back two leagues.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh boy, great stuff for to see a
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Paul more anatomy.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: But I'll leave it at it. It's not nine o'clock yet.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Say that Ral pul Murray live you get all the anatomically.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: Correct that nine o'clock is an anatomically correct.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Anatomically correct, if not politically correct, correct nine o'clock and
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Paul Murray Life Now. We often talk about Pauline Hanson's
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Please Explain cartoons on this program. They are hilarious and
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: one of their creators, Martin Nicholson, obviously joins us every week.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Last week's episode, the episode they ripped off, how the
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Queensland State government in an election year mind you, is
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: using the cartoon character Bluey and Steve Irwin's son Robert
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: to sprout Sunshine State tourism. Robert Irwin has now threatened
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: legal actions, so the cartoon is actually making news.
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: Well, Pauline Hanson is refusing to take down a cartoon
• 38:07
  Speaker 13: video of Robert Irwin and blue even after the Wildlife
• 38:10
  Speaker 13: Warriors Threatson threatened the One Nation leader with legal action.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Take a look, Chef this year?
• 38:15
  Speaker 15: What this must be the line for Warner Brothers movie
• 38:18
  Speaker 15: Will Now, this is a rental.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Inspection for a one veteran rock campgen.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: More mistake blue.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's great stuff.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Step Make Studios creator one of the creators.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: There, Mark Niverson, joins us life from real good to speak.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: To you make you must be loving the publicity for
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the cartoons, free publicity around the country.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, secretly, so absolutely mate. I yeah, it's very rare
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that we get the we get to seize them like
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the moral high ground, but we're also like on the
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: legal like the correct.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Side of the law for once.
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: You know, this is you know, defamations.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: We've we've wrestled this crocodile several times before. Chris and
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I got the emails on Friday night and I was
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, that'll be a Saturday morning problem.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And I sent it off to James Ashby and the
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: folks at One Nation and they've looked after us so well.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Like the first thing they said was we've got you
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: back one hundred percent on this one, and we It
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: was just such a relief and I got to actually
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: enjoy this weekend and see all the news bubbling away,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: which is it's been very exciting. But again it's been
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: focused in on the issues in Queensland, which is the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: most important thing said about Robert Irwin.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Look, you know I've been involved in defamations on from
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: all directions over the years and that blind Freddie could
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: tell you that this is not defamatory.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm someone who sued over a cartoon.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether that would have won in court.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Either, to be frank, but the.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Point is here you're using Robertie Irwin's fame to pope
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: fun at the Queensland government. And that's what happens when
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: you're as famous as Robert Irwin is.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's great stuff.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Let's just have a look at another snippet from the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: car toon.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Light Nut.
• 39:55
  Speaker 18: Robert, you know your father Steve, he was alaric and
• 39:57
  Speaker 18: who you had a laugh and he could take the
• 39:59
  Speaker 18: mickey of himself. And yet you're complaining about this. I've
• 40:02
  Speaker 18: taken the videos down. I told you, I've had advice
• 40:06
  Speaker 18: that the videos are not dipometry.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: That's paul En Hanson, not the cartoon. Sorry about that,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: but Pauline Handsome were responding to it. She's the star
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: character of most of these cartoons. Now, tell us about
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: the reaction you've got from around the country, because obviously
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: you operate on Facebook. Sometimes your cartoons you get hundreds
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: of thousands of views. It must be great that you're
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: driving some more traffic to them.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Now, it's been awesome.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: It's been awesome. And again people who are actually they're
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: they're they're questioning whether the things that we talked about
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: in the cartoon were real. You know, is the Bruce
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Highway covered in potholes turns out it is? You know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: do we actually have a housing crisis? Is the hospital
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: system actually stuff there? There's some real problems in Queensland
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and that's what that's what people have having. But I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: do think we've we unfortunately maybe we didn't. We didn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: realize we were going to do this, but we've tapped
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: into some sort of people aren't huge fans of the Irwins,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: which I we're just surprised by the whole reaction. We
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: could have been a lot harder on Robert, to be honest,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Like we bashed Blue, Blue got bash, Like we could have.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: Done the same thing to Robert.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: You're luck for the ABC after you as well with Blue.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Just quickly, I know James Askey, Paul and Hansen's chief
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: of stuff is offered to have dinner with Robert Irwin
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to sort it out.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You joined the dinner, wouldn't you.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I did get the invite, So if Rob's watching, I've
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: got nothing against Rob Actually, I personally don't think he's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think he actually saw it and advised his
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: lawyers to do it. I do think he's just got
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: this team around him that decided to do it and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: get in touch with us, and they thought they were
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: going to be able to bully us in one nation
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: into taking it down with some with a big scary
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: letter and some legal ees. But we're not going.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: To get bullied.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: But good stuff.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: If he's keen to have a.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Steak up in Queensland, and I won't throw away an
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: opportunity like that, I'd be silly to do that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: She just don't need it. Too close to the river bank.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Great to talk to you, Mike. We'll talk to you
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: again later in the week. Mark Nicholson Judy.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Goes, now, what do you reckon?
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Is the best Australian song of the past sixty years.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It's hard to settle on just one, isn't it?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Well? There was a wonderful read in The Australian over
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the weekend, where to celebrate the upcoming sixtieth anniversary of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the paper, the music writer Andrew McMillan and Alan Howe
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: picked the top sixty songs one for each year.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Alan Howe is a legendary Australian journalist and editor who's
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: worked in the UK and the US as well as
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: here of course, and he's a music tragic, a music
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: expert expert, and he joins me now from Victoria. Great
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: to talk to Alan. This is such a great feature.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Who doesn't love trying to pick out the best OSI
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: songs over the last sixty years. And you've you've must
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: have had a hell of a time, you know, Clat
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: You brought it down to one song for each year,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: didn't you?
• 42:49
  Speaker 15: And that makes it very good songs. You know, we're
• 42:51
  Speaker 15: runners up each year, and that's a shame. I wish
• 42:55
  Speaker 15: it could have been two or three songs for Richards,
• 42:57
  Speaker 15: but it had to be one and that made the cutting,
• 43:01
  Speaker 15: some of the editing really difficult.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Indeed, I better pick through a few of them.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And let's have a look at this one from way
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: back in the early sixties is surely going to be
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: right up there is perhaps one of the greatest izzy
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: rock songs of all time. What a great song the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Easy Beats with Friday on my mind. But you right,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: you told us Allan that even while that's a great
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Aussie song, perhaps the greatest of all time.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: It was written in London and not by Aussies.
• 43:38
  Speaker 15: It was better than two thousand and two, was the
• 43:41
  Speaker 15: greatest Australian rock song of all time. And it is
• 43:44
  Speaker 15: indeed a very good song. When George Harrison was driving
• 43:47
  Speaker 15: up the m One in his little Mini Minor and
• 43:50
  Speaker 15: it came on the radio and he was so over world,
• 43:52
  Speaker 15: he pulled over and he thought, Frank, this is fantastic
• 43:56
  Speaker 15: and it is a great song. But it was written
• 43:58
  Speaker 15: one Sunday morning by Harry vander As, a Dutchman, and
• 44:03
  Speaker 15: he was with George, a who they with the easyweets essentially,
• 44:08
  Speaker 15: And they came downstairs and Mike Brady, my old mate,
• 44:11
  Speaker 15: I had to be staying here that night and had a
• 44:13
  Speaker 15: while part of the night before the place was covered
• 44:15
  Speaker 15: in bottles and women, and he came downstairs. Harry with
• 44:17
  Speaker 15: a very complicated guitar, butt said to Mike, what do
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: you think of this? Mike said that sounds fantastic. What's
• 44:24
  Speaker 15: that called? He said, Oh, I haven't waken up George
• 44:27
  Speaker 15: yet to write any words. This is a great song,
• 44:30
  Speaker 15: not a not Australian involved.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Right, I got another bone to pick with you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this song, more contemporary one
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: one from Crowded House.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Great band, great song, Alan but keywee surely.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, not low.
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: Neil finn is a New Zealander. But in that band
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: was Paul Hester and Nick Seymour. Nick Seymour was born
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: in Banilla, Paul Hester and Melbourne. You can't get much
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: more Australian than.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: That, all right.
• 45:09
  Speaker 15: The song was written in Port Melbourne and recorded in
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: South Melbourne, so we'll take that as Australian.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I reckon, You've got that one pretty well covered. Now
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: this one is one that you missed out.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: How does this?
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know what year it was, but how does this?
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: It's probably the greatest Australian rock and roll song of
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: all time. Let's have a look ACDC.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: So now you got Akadaca in there with Thunderstruck. But
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: how did that not make it? Well?
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: Just to start, that video was filmed for Countdown on
• 45:47
  Speaker 15: a budget of three hundred and eighty dollars. I looked
• 45:51
  Speaker 15: it up the other day. It's been watched thirty eight
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: million times. Look, I don't mind that song, but it
• 45:57
  Speaker 15: wasn't the sort of music I was into then and
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: I was playing in bands back in that year.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: But it came out.
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: It actually came out twice. They issued an album called
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: T and T and then another album called pig Enagy
• 46:10
  Speaker 15: or something, and it was actually the lead single off
• 46:13
  Speaker 15: both albums, so it originally came out seventy five. That's
• 46:17
  Speaker 15: a difficult year because seventy one seventy five paty five
• 46:21
  Speaker 15: fantastic years for Australian music and a very competitive and
• 46:25
  Speaker 15: I chosen seventy five. I may have made a mistake here,
• 46:28
  Speaker 15: not with Ac Doucy, but I went with horror review Bike.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, you had, you had, You had to go
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: with horror movie that year until over didn't that. That's
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: fantastic stuff, Alan, I really appreciate your time and anyone
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: who wants to continue on with the debate Google The
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: article is still up there on The Australian's website. Fantastic article,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the sixty greatest songs in Aussie over the last sixty years.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: We're going to go to media issues now and catch
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: up with Sophie Osworth, media writer at The Australian, joins
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: us from Melbourne.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again. So if I've got
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to show you this little snippet.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Bruce Lherman is facing another sexual assault case in Queensland,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: and have a look at what he says to the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: camera gaggle on his way in.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the day?
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: Very good?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: You're you gonna be fighting these charges?
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: How are you feeling about fronting and other court?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Where's Peter Costello when you need him? Where's Peter Costello
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: when you need it? That's the funniest thing to come
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: out of this. Enough for a long while.
• 47:24
  Speaker 20: Well, Chris just want to point out it's obviously very
• 47:27
  Speaker 20: serious allegations against mister Lhman, but that aside for a moment.
• 47:32
  Speaker 20: It wasn't a bad tactic by him because this got
• 47:35
  Speaker 20: picked up by media all around the country and was
• 47:38
  Speaker 20: leading many of the stories, diverting the focus away from
• 47:41
  Speaker 20: him a bit. So I think he tried to just
• 47:43
  Speaker 20: inject a bit of humor. But he's got a serious
• 47:46
  Speaker 20: situation on his hands there fronting court again.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, he sure does, and we'll let the court
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: to deal with all of that.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I want to ask you also about Kerry Anne Kennelly,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the former Channel nine superstar, speaking out.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Against the culture the alleged culture at Channel nine. Tell
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: us about that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: That's right, Chris.
• 48:06
  Speaker 20: Look, she's spoken to us in The Australian today and
• 48:10
  Speaker 20: talked about an entrench culture of bullying and intimidation at
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: the network. She was obviously at the network for a
• 48:17
  Speaker 20: long time and one of the highest profile stars, particularly
• 48:21
  Speaker 20: in the nineties, and she's one of the very few,
• 48:25
  Speaker 20: if not the only one really that's come out and
• 48:27
  Speaker 20: spoken and put their name to comments at the network,
• 48:32
  Speaker 20: which is obviously.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: A pretty big thing to do. Many people who have.
• 48:36
  Speaker 20: Spoken about the conduct or alleged conduct at the network
• 48:40
  Speaker 20: are too afraid to put their name to it. But
• 48:42
  Speaker 20: she has spoken to us today and said, look, this
• 48:45
  Speaker 20: problem is long standing, its rife and she saw it
• 48:48
  Speaker 20: during her time at the network.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not saying any more.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: A great get by you at The Australian to get
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: those comments from her, And good on the Kerry and
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Kennerley for speaking up. Just briefly, I want to show
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: you this sort of comedian and that we've seen a
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: lot of on the ABC here he is for the
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Climate Council.
• 49:04
  Speaker 19: What a news box that other countries don't allow on
• 49:07
  Speaker 19: their roads. Then come on down the big orderse Loossy
• 49:10
  Speaker 19: dumping ground. The biggest brands are taking a dump in
• 49:14
  Speaker 19: Australia because this is pretty much the last place they
• 49:17
  Speaker 19: can right, Fellas, ruh, We've got toy owners that are
• 49:21
  Speaker 19: so polluting. Don't make you say. I want a feeling
• 49:24
  Speaker 19: and that feeling is EMPHASI.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Well, he's been on the ABC, he's obviously a lefty Sophie.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Channel seven, they're going to use him in their TV
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: bulletins very quickly.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: How can that work?
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: Well, that's right.
• 49:37
  Speaker 20: The new news boss at seven, Anthony de Segli's made
• 49:41
  Speaker 20: this very bold move to you know, put Mark comfreyes
• 49:45
  Speaker 20: into the news bulletins on a weekly basis and inject
• 49:49
  Speaker 20: a bit of comedy. But Chris, it's going to be
• 49:51
  Speaker 20: hard to see how this will work in a serious
• 49:54
  Speaker 20: news bulletin to suddenly divert to comedy. So the jury's
• 49:57
  Speaker 20: out whether it will work or not.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: We will see. It'll be fascinating to watch. Thanks for
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: joining us, Sophie. Sophie Illsworth all over it. As usual
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: for The Australian's media section on Monday, I'll see you
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Coming up next is Caleb Bond filling in for Peter Quedlin,