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- 0:33Speaker 1: It's stuff you should Know with Josh Clark that's me
- 0:37Speaker 1: and Charles W. Bryant that's you, right, And this is
- 0:39Speaker 1: really stuff you should know. Yeah, not like the usual
- 0:43Speaker 1: gobbledegook that we just toss out there. This is this
- 0:46Speaker 1: is an important one. Sure, I think so too. We're
- 0:50Speaker 1: talking about what the CDC classifies in the top ten
- 0:53Speaker 1: accomplishments of public health of the twentieth century. Indeed, and
- 0:58Speaker 1: also might be one of the most the faririest pots
- 1:00Speaker 1: that are perpetrated on the global public good stuff. Let's
- 1:05Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it, Chuck. We're talking about fluoride,
- 1:09Speaker 1: the seemingly innocuous stuff that is added to our water
- 1:12Speaker 1: supply and our toothpaste, and our pills, diet pills, mouthwash,
- 1:19Speaker 1: what else, um, soft drinks, Well, that stuff that we ingest.
- 1:23Speaker 1: It's also in rat poison and things like that. Antipsychotic medications,
- 1:29Speaker 1: paint are not pain killers, tranquilizers. Yeah, it's all over
- 1:34Speaker 1: the place. And actually it is exceedingly difficult to get
- 1:37Speaker 1: rid of or to get away from, anything that has
- 1:40Speaker 1: water in it. Uh, say, a soft drink is going
- 1:44Speaker 1: to have fluoride in it too, because pretty much all
- 1:47Speaker 1: of our water has fluoride in it, at least here
- 1:49Speaker 1: in the States of American cities fluoridate their own water
- 1:53Speaker 1: flooridate water that already has naturally occurring fluoride in it,
- 1:57Speaker 1: which is hinky. It is hinky. Let's let's talk about
- 2:00Speaker 1: fluoride first, right back in the nineteen forties here in
- 2:04Speaker 1: the States. We should also say, around the world, this
- 2:07Speaker 1: is not necessarily the case. There are some countries that
- 2:10Speaker 1: absolutely don't floridate water. Some used to. Yeah, Denmark and
- 2:15Speaker 1: Switzerland are among those that used to and don't anymore.
- 2:18Speaker 1: France never did. But in the States we've been hot
- 2:21Speaker 1: and heavy about floridating water for a long time since
- 2:26Speaker 1: when Grand Rapids Michigan became the first um city to floridate,
- 2:32Speaker 1: to add fluoride to it's already fluoridated water. Uh. And
- 2:36Speaker 1: Grand Rapids became the kind of model city for this.
- 2:40Speaker 1: It was studied extensively. Uh. And the whole reason we
- 2:44Speaker 1: started floridating water is and as Chuck likes to say,
- 2:47Speaker 1: I find the shinky. Uh. Scientists discovered that areas where
- 2:54Speaker 1: naturally occurring fluoridated water was being drunk by the citizens. UM.
- 3:00Speaker 1: They also there was also a correlation with a decline
- 3:03Speaker 1: and dental carries all about the teeth. Dental carries are
- 3:07Speaker 1: any kind of signs of decay, like a cavity or
- 3:10Speaker 1: something like that. It's an umbrella term form. Right. So
- 3:13Speaker 1: they decided, hey, we should add floride to the water
- 3:15Speaker 1: and put it in toothpaste, and uh, we'll we'll get
- 3:19Speaker 1: our teeth in shape here in this country. And since then,
- 3:22Speaker 1: everybody's fine with fluoride. It's totally cool. You know, if
- 3:27Speaker 1: you'll remember, toothpaste used to be touted with with fluoride.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It's actually a little more difficult to find that little
- 3:34Speaker 1: label these days. Right. The ad A American Dental Association
- 3:38Speaker 1: says it's great the organization. They came out in nineteen
- 3:41Speaker 1: sixty nine and said it's good stuff. Big, big organizations
- 3:45Speaker 1: are behind it. And uh, there actually has been a
- 3:48Speaker 1: major decline in tooth decay since then. Back in the forties,
- 3:53Speaker 1: the early forties, I believe in the US, the average
- 3:57Speaker 1: kid had fifteen dental carries. Right, that's a lot. That
- 4:01Speaker 1: a lot, I mean, that makes me look good. Do
- 4:04Speaker 1: you have a lot of cavities or a lot of fillings?
- 4:06Speaker 1: I'm like a crackhead over here. Yeah, my my. I
- 4:09Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid and I kept getting
- 4:10Speaker 1: fillings every time. I rather sardonic, Lee told my dentist
- 4:15Speaker 1: one time, why don't you just go ahead and fill
- 4:17Speaker 1: them all? Right now? Just get it over with. You
- 4:19Speaker 1: were sardonic way back then, said I keep coming back
- 4:22Speaker 1: in here, and you do a couple every time, So
- 4:24Speaker 1: once you just go ahead and do them all. And
- 4:25Speaker 1: he said, well, that's no kind of attitude, really, right,
- 4:30Speaker 1: And I went yeah, And all of a sudden, you
- 4:33Speaker 1: forgot what you were talking about exactly. Yeah. So UM
- 4:37Speaker 1: again Floride endorsed across the board almost by almost every
- 4:43Speaker 1: major UM dental association, public Health Association, the c d C,
- 4:48Speaker 1: as we said, the World Health Organization, and they all
- 4:51Speaker 1: point to studies that show that floride is perfectly fine
- 4:55Speaker 1: even though it's an insecticides and rat poisons and tranquilizers. Right. Um,
- 5:00Speaker 1: The problem is there are also plenty of studies that
- 5:04Speaker 1: have surfaced or been conducted over the years that show
- 5:06Speaker 1: fluoride is not necessarily fine. Now are we gonna get
- 5:10Speaker 1: into the dark side? Now? Is it time? I don't
- 5:13Speaker 1: see any reason to hold off any longer. I mean,
- 5:17Speaker 1: what have we we talked about? How you know there's
- 5:19Speaker 1: been a decrease in dental carries since fluoride was introduced
- 5:24Speaker 1: or right? The thing is, the impression I have is
- 5:28Speaker 1: everybody seems to be okay with adding fluoride to toothpaste,
- 5:33Speaker 1: But it's the water supply that really gets people's ire up, right, right,
- 5:37Speaker 1: I think, because it's already in there, not just that.
- 5:40Speaker 1: And also we should say that the optimal, as far
- 5:42Speaker 1: as the e p A Is concerned, the optimal amount
- 5:45Speaker 1: of fluoride added to drinking water is four parts per million, right, yes, indeed,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and and anything over that up to fourteen parts per
- 5:55Speaker 1: million is considered dangerous. Right And way back in nineteen
- 6:00Speaker 1: any to the National Academy of Sciences estimated that more
- 6:03Speaker 1: than two hundred thousand people in the US we're drinking
- 6:06Speaker 1: water with fluoride levels above four parts per million. And
- 6:10Speaker 1: what are some of the dangers. Well, some of the
- 6:12Speaker 1: dangers are discoloration and corrosion of your teeth, which is
- 6:16Speaker 1: called dental fluorosis. Yeah, which is ironic that it's something.
- 6:20Speaker 1: The whole point of fluoride is to prevent dental decay,
- 6:24Speaker 1: and over exposure or prolonged exposures, say, oh, I don't know,
- 6:28Speaker 1: over the course of a lifetime. Um, it can actually
- 6:31Speaker 1: degrade your teeth's health. It can actually accelerate decay, and
- 6:35Speaker 1: not just teeth but bones as well, which is skeletal fluorosis.
- 6:40Speaker 1: It can also cause seizures. It can also cause a
- 6:44Speaker 1: severe gastro intestinal upset, can lower your i Q supposedly allegedly,
- 6:49Speaker 1: well that's not necessarily allegedly. There's a bunch of studies,
- 6:52Speaker 1: um that have been shown that there is at least
- 6:55Speaker 1: a correlation between high fluoride exposure and low i Q. Right,
- 7:00Speaker 1: China is big on that. Actually, there's been a slew
- 7:03Speaker 1: of studies to come out of China that show that
- 7:06Speaker 1: UM and the Chinese have also conducted other studies outside
- 7:09Speaker 1: of China, so it's not just China that's got heavily
- 7:13Speaker 1: fluoridated dummies, you know. Um, So Chuck, I guess now,
- 7:19Speaker 1: let's let's pull the trigger. Let's get into the whole
- 7:22Speaker 1: conspiracy aspect of this. Yes, there's something called the florid conspiracy,
- 7:25Speaker 1: which we've found quite disturbing. We did speak for you, Yeah,
- 7:29Speaker 1: please do. And Um, should we go back to and
- 7:33Speaker 1: kind of set up how this happened. Yes, let's go
- 7:35Speaker 1: back in time, Josh, like we'd love to do to.
- 7:39Speaker 1: So are years from the release of Ghostbusters. Uh. The I. G.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Farben Company in Germany, they're a chemical manufacturing company. They
- 7:49Speaker 1: started getting loans from banks here in America. So what
- 7:53Speaker 1: that led to was Henry Ford and American Standard Oil
- 7:58Speaker 1: merged with I. G. Farban and in the early thirties,
- 8:01Speaker 1: all of a sudden there were more than a hundred
- 8:03Speaker 1: corporations who had cooperatives and subsidiaries in Germany. So, all
- 8:09Speaker 1: of a sudden, we have a lot of a lot
- 8:10Speaker 1: of manufacturing and business going on in Germany. Early thirties.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Flash forward a little bit to thirty nine, under the
- 8:16Speaker 1: Altet agreement, and the American Aluminum Company, which is the
- 8:20Speaker 1: largest producer of sodium fluoride, and Dow everyone knows about
- 8:24Speaker 1: doll the chemical company. They transfer technology to Germany as well.
- 8:29Speaker 1: So all of a sudden you have what's known as
- 8:31Speaker 1: the fluoride mafia quote unquote, because that was the largest
- 8:35Speaker 1: producer of sodium fluoride in the world at the time, right, right,
- 8:38Speaker 1: And I guess we should say that here's the deal.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Fluoride is a byproduct of a lot of manufacturing processes.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Hydrofluoria solicic acid is exactly. Um. We should also say
- 8:49Speaker 1: at this point that the studies that are conducted on
- 8:52Speaker 1: the dangers of fluoride, which no one disputes, you can,
- 8:57Speaker 1: there is such a thing as fluoride toxicity. That's fact.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Sin dispute is number one, whether or not it will
- 9:02Speaker 1: actually affect intelligence, and number two, whether the risks of
- 9:07Speaker 1: Florida toxas city outweigh the benefits to dental health. Right, okay, right, right, okay,
- 9:14Speaker 1: So go ahead, Chuck. So now, uh flash forward a
- 9:17Speaker 1: little bit more into World War two. Uh, the U. S.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Government sends a guy named Charles Elliott Perkins and he's
- 9:22Speaker 1: a research a chemistry guy. Uh. They sent him to
- 9:26Speaker 1: Germany to work with the chemical plants over there with
- 9:29Speaker 1: the I. G. Farban Co Company, and a German chemissaire
- 9:33Speaker 1: told him of a scheme which was devised that the
- 9:37Speaker 1: German chemists were going to know they had been they
- 9:41Speaker 1: had been giving floride to prisoners of wars. That right,
- 9:44Speaker 1: they were fluoridating, heavily fluoridating from from how I take it,
- 9:48Speaker 1: at the water at the pow camps in Germany to quote,
- 9:51Speaker 1: make them stupid and docile. Yes, interesting, very interesting. So
- 9:56Speaker 1: apparently that that caught the attention of the Americans. It did. Indeed.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Nine Gerald Cox, who was a chemist employed by the
- 10:06Speaker 1: Aluminum company, Yeah, concludes in a study with lab rats
- 10:11Speaker 1: that floride reduces the cavities, dental cavities. And this is
- 10:16Speaker 1: where everything just kind of picks up from there, like
- 10:18Speaker 1: all of a sudden, fluoride is associated with the reduction
- 10:22Speaker 1: in dental caries, and now we need to just start
- 10:25Speaker 1: adding it to our drinking water, right right. Seven Oscar Ewing,
- 10:30Speaker 1: who was a longtime attorney for the Aluminum company, is
- 10:33Speaker 1: appointed head of the Federal Security Agency, which places him
- 10:37Speaker 1: in charge of the public Health Service, and over the
- 10:40Speaker 1: next three years after that, seven American city started floridating
- 10:44Speaker 1: their water. Right. And this is just an early example
- 10:47Speaker 1: of the revolving door. You know about the revolving door, right,
- 10:51Speaker 1: we've talked about it before school me Um. It's like, uh, Paulson, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Paulson when he was head of the Treasury, he was
- 11:00Speaker 1: a Goldman Sacksman, and of course kush Kari he was
- 11:04Speaker 1: a Goldman Sacksman too. It's just it's the revolving door.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Is basically this this um interaction, this interplay between the
- 11:11Speaker 1: private sector and public office. So the private sector will
- 11:14Speaker 1: send some of their top people to serve in public office,
- 11:18Speaker 1: affect policy change that helps this private sector, and then
- 11:23Speaker 1: they come out and get huge bonuses in a Kush job. Exactly.
- 11:26Speaker 1: This is exactly what you're talking about now with Oscar
- 11:29Speaker 1: ewing in right. We need to keep saying that word.
- 11:33Speaker 1: So basically, Josh, the eliminum manufacturing and fertilizer and weapons
- 11:38Speaker 1: industries start conducting this education and research for fluoride, saying
- 11:43Speaker 1: how great it is when it's one of their biggest byproducts,
- 11:46Speaker 1: and apparently the deal is it's very expensive byproduct to
- 11:49Speaker 1: get rid of it is, but it's also toxic waste.
- 11:53Speaker 1: So very conveniently, they have all these studies that come
- 11:55Speaker 1: out and say, hey, it's really good for you and
- 11:57Speaker 1: by these companies, and we just happen to have a bunch.
- 12:00Speaker 1: So let's start selling it to municipalities to put into
- 12:03Speaker 1: their water supply. Right, should we talk about Eddie Burne's
- 12:06Speaker 1: Edward Burne's Real Quick? Yeah? I and actually, Chuck, we
- 12:09Speaker 1: had we had a suggestion from one of our listeners
- 12:11Speaker 1: a while back, UM when we talked about I think
- 12:14Speaker 1: it was the Propaganda episode, Um, and he sent in
- 12:18Speaker 1: some stuff about Edward Burney's. I think Edward Burnet's actually
- 12:22Speaker 1: deserves his own podcast. This guy created PR and like
- 12:28Speaker 1: the kind of thank you for smoking PR the original
- 12:30Speaker 1: spin doctor, I'd like to I think we should do
- 12:33Speaker 1: one on him. I agree. So Barney's is um funded
- 12:38Speaker 1: by these industrialists to try and encourage this PR campaign
- 12:43Speaker 1: that it's good for you. You're gonna read the quote alright.
- 12:46Speaker 1: So Berne's is quoted as saying you can get practically
- 12:50Speaker 1: any idea accepted if doctors are in favor. The public
- 12:53Speaker 1: is willing to accept it because the doctor is an
- 12:55Speaker 1: authority to most people, regardless of how much he knows
- 12:58Speaker 1: or doesn't know how about that, which is true. Uh.
- 13:01Speaker 1: And actually, Chuck, I should say, um, you know my
- 13:04Speaker 1: cute little girlfriend, she's sharp as attack. Uh. She and
- 13:08Speaker 1: I were watching something about a like an elliptical machine
- 13:11Speaker 1: or something. It was an infomercial for it, and they
- 13:14Speaker 1: had this doctor on and he was touting the the
- 13:17Speaker 1: health benefits of this machine. But it said his name
- 13:21Speaker 1: and then new York cardiologist, and it just completely went
- 13:25Speaker 1: over my head. And she she stopped him, was like,
- 13:27Speaker 1: what is the fact that he's a New York cardiologist
- 13:30Speaker 1: had to do with anything? And I realized, like, New
- 13:33Speaker 1: York cardiologist had just buzzed into my brain and it
- 13:36Speaker 1: was an infomercial. So I took the guy with a
- 13:38Speaker 1: grain of salt to begin with. But I did not
- 13:41Speaker 1: notice at all that it was a New York cardiologist
- 13:44Speaker 1: I was listening to. But I'm sure that that still
- 13:46Speaker 1: had an effect the legitimacy that this guy had. In
- 13:50Speaker 1: my opinion, if it would have said de Moine pediatrician,
- 13:53Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have Pian Detroit even work for eau
- 14:00Speaker 1: Claire was Canton was Canton. So, uh, basically, these doctors
- 14:06Speaker 1: weren't necessarily bad guys and ladies, but they never really
- 14:11Speaker 1: got these studies. A lot of these studies were allegedly suppressed,
- 14:15Speaker 1: and people that oppose it were, you know, called cranks
- 14:18Speaker 1: and quacks, and so all these doctors are seeing these
- 14:21Speaker 1: cooked studies, essentially cooking the books. Nice Chuck, allegedly get
- 14:25Speaker 1: him Chuck recently declassified documents about the Manhattan Project Josh,
- 14:32Speaker 1: where we made the atomic bomb, found out that floride
- 14:35Speaker 1: is a key chemical ingredient in the atomic bomb. Even
- 14:38Speaker 1: worse than that, though, there was a an A. D. A. M.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Study that apparently said that floride does pose a health risk,
- 14:47Speaker 1: and the Atomic Energy Agency actually redacted much of this study.
- 14:51Speaker 1: So when the American Dental Association is being redacted by
- 14:55Speaker 1: the Atomic Energy Agency, that's that should raise some sort
- 14:59Speaker 1: of flag, you know. The reason they gave though? What
- 15:02Speaker 1: national security? Yeah, and apparently, Chuck, when whenever the government
- 15:06Speaker 1: pulls out national security, including lawsuits which are arch nemesis.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Ira Glass recently covered in a This American Life story
- 15:15Speaker 1: on the origins of things. Um, there's absolutely nothing you
- 15:20Speaker 1: can do, like that's that's it. The judges says, well,
- 15:22Speaker 1: this case can't be tried. Well, you know what else
- 15:24Speaker 1: happened in two thousand three? The Water Act. Yeah, the
- 15:28Speaker 1: Water Act was passed. And one of the little things
- 15:30Speaker 1: in the Water Act that you may not know about people,
- 15:33Speaker 1: is that it made it impossible for water companies to
- 15:35Speaker 1: undergo civil or criminal hearings as a result of adding
- 15:39Speaker 1: fluoride to public water. So they basically said, you can't
- 15:42Speaker 1: see him because we passed the Water Act. So if
- 15:46Speaker 1: someone finds out something awful, there's nothing you can do
- 15:48Speaker 1: about it to make money. So again we should go
- 15:52Speaker 1: back and say that if you ask the c d C,
- 15:55Speaker 1: the A d AH, the World Health Organization, if you
- 15:58Speaker 1: ask any of these agents the's is Florida dangerous? They
- 16:02Speaker 1: will conclusively say no. Or we should say it, does
- 16:06Speaker 1: Florida give you cancer? They will say no. Of course,
- 16:09Speaker 1: there are plenty of studies out there that link floride cancer. Again,
- 16:13Speaker 1: though these studies appear to be repressed. Have you heard
- 16:16Speaker 1: of Philos Melanax. Yeah, let's talk about her. She was
- 16:20Speaker 1: what a Harvard researcher, Yeah, toxicologists. She was a New
- 16:24Speaker 1: York cardiologist in the Yeah, and um, she was about
- 16:28Speaker 1: to publish a study um on the link between cancer
- 16:33Speaker 1: and floride. Was that right? Well, yeah, she she thought
- 16:37Speaker 1: that it might lead to lower i Q and and
- 16:41Speaker 1: a couple of Yeah, because some uh during her studies
- 16:45Speaker 1: of rodents, they were displaying um symptoms and signs of
- 16:49Speaker 1: a d h D. Uh. And we'd also are already
- 16:52Speaker 1: long known that fluoride exposure causes um osteo sarcomas, which
- 16:56Speaker 1: is bone cancer in rats. Um. But she okay, So
- 17:00Speaker 1: she was doing the link between a d h D,
- 17:03Speaker 1: lower i Q and fluoride and she was fired a
- 17:05Speaker 1: couple of days before her UM findings were published. So
- 17:09Speaker 1: she goes to the National Institutes of Health for research
- 17:12Speaker 1: grant to continuous studies, and they said floride does not
- 17:16Speaker 1: lower i Q, it does not affect intelligence and turned
- 17:20Speaker 1: her down and said sorry, we have no money for you.
- 17:22Speaker 1: And National Institutes of Health they're not supposed to write
- 17:25Speaker 1: the conclusions for researchers before their studies are published. And
- 17:28Speaker 1: you know what she was fired from. What her job was.
- 17:30Speaker 1: She was ahead of toxicology at the Forsyth Dental Center
- 17:33Speaker 1: in Boston. Yeah. Interesting, the plot is getting so thick.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I can barely put my hand in it. It is.
- 17:40Speaker 1: This is honestly, I'd never heard of this. And Ben Bowling,
- 17:43Speaker 1: they did UH on the soon to be released stuff
- 17:45Speaker 1: they don't want you to know a video podcast. They
- 17:47Speaker 1: did one on floride, so we kind of borrowed from them. Well,
- 17:50Speaker 1: we actually asked Ben the Godfather for his blessing and
- 17:54Speaker 1: he very generously gave it to us. Right. Um, so
- 17:59Speaker 1: chuck the here's the biggest one to me. This is
- 18:01Speaker 1: this is the one that gets me the most. Okay. So,
- 18:04Speaker 1: the studies that show that fluoride poses little to no
- 18:08Speaker 1: health risk if it's delivered at four parts per million
- 18:11Speaker 1: or less in fluoridated water UM Number one or about
- 18:15Speaker 1: twenty years old, UH and number two were conducted using
- 18:20Speaker 1: pharmaceutical grade sodium fluoride. This is the stuff that actually
- 18:26Speaker 1: is in toothpaste, really high grade stuff. Um. And that's
- 18:31Speaker 1: why no one really has any problem with fluoride and toothpaste.
- 18:35Speaker 1: It's the fluoride in the drinking water supply. As we
- 18:37Speaker 1: said earlier, the people are worried about. One of the
- 18:41Speaker 1: reasons why is that while some cities do put sodium
- 18:44Speaker 1: fluoride in their water supply. It's still not pharmaceutical grade,
- 18:48Speaker 1: and even worse, a lot of cities use hydrofluora solicic acid, which, Chuck,
- 18:55Speaker 1: you mentioned that it's a byproduct of fertilizer production, UM
- 18:58Speaker 1: munitions production, UM aluminum production, scrubbed from the smoke stacks.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Say it again, Chuck, scrubbed from the inside of smoke
- 19:07Speaker 1: stacks of fertilizer plants, fertilizer plants and put into our water,
- 19:10Speaker 1: put into truck, shipped to water um treatment plants where
- 19:14Speaker 1: it sold the cities and inserted into the water supply. Dude,
- 19:19Speaker 1: I'm not Mr. Conspiracy guy. I kind of its interests me,
- 19:21Speaker 1: but this is one of those where I was I
- 19:24Speaker 1: was blown away. Well, I think the gray irony of
- 19:26Speaker 1: this podcast is that the um aluminum foil hats were
- 19:30Speaker 1: wearing were actually produced by ALCA. I mean, come on,
- 19:34Speaker 1: how's that for full circle? Yeah, but we're not getting
- 19:37Speaker 1: any it's bouncing off all the radio electric or radiomagnetic
- 19:41Speaker 1: electromagnetic waves. What am I saying? Do you? I know
- 19:44Speaker 1: what you're saying, buddy. So that's um, that's florid. Actually
- 19:47Speaker 1: that's kind of just the tip of the iceberg. Really,
- 19:50Speaker 1: one thing that I took hard in is that, Um,
- 19:52Speaker 1: it seems like more and more legitimate groups are undertaking
- 19:56Speaker 1: studies or reevaluations of some of the studies that were
- 19:59Speaker 1: conduct did on whether or not fluoride poses a health
- 20:03Speaker 1: risk starting in the twenty one century. UM. And it
- 20:06Speaker 1: looks like people are starting to take a slightly more
- 20:10Speaker 1: scrutinizing view of it because they were Burns is long dead,
- 20:14Speaker 1: and so are all of the revolving door people who
- 20:17Speaker 1: got this whole thing started. So we'll see, right. The
- 20:20Speaker 1: e p A is one of them. Actually, thank god
- 20:23Speaker 1: I saw one of their scientists in their union chapter
- 20:27Speaker 1: two eighty it is taking a big stand against it,
- 20:30Speaker 1: Dr William Hersey, And he's the vice president of that
- 20:32Speaker 1: chapter of the e p A. And he says that
- 20:35Speaker 1: quote fluoride is a hazardous waste product for which there
- 20:39Speaker 1: is substantial evidence of adverse health effects and contrary to
- 20:42Speaker 1: public perception, virtually no evidence of significant benefits. Boom right.
- 20:48Speaker 1: And when a scientist union starts talking, it's bad because
- 20:51Speaker 1: you've got eggheads and leg breaking um teamsters rolled into one.
- 20:58Speaker 1: You don't want to mess with that. A teams NERD
- 21:00Speaker 1: combo is deadly and actually, if you're looking for a
- 21:03Speaker 1: legitimate source, a legitimate voice of opposition to fluoridating water,
- 21:08Speaker 1: should check out anything Dr Hardy Lineback has written. He's
- 21:11Speaker 1: an associate professor of dentistry and the head of the
- 21:16Speaker 1: preventative he's the head of preventative Dentistry at the University
- 21:20Speaker 1: of Toronto. He's a vocal opponent of floridating water, and
- 21:25Speaker 1: he's got some great points. Yea Hardy Lineback, crime back,
- 21:30Speaker 1: cool stuff. Josh, Yeah, that's that's it. We should probably, uh,
- 21:35Speaker 1: we'll have to find another conspiracy one to do, because
- 21:37Speaker 1: our conspiracy ones really get people going. People love that
- 21:41Speaker 1: c I and LSD fake moon landing. Actually mk ultra
- 21:44Speaker 1: was used in some of these experiments that was part
- 21:46Speaker 1: of the under the mk ultra umbrella. This floor ideal. Well,
- 21:50Speaker 1: there's like two hundred forty nine or a hundred and
- 21:52Speaker 1: forty nine programs under mk ultra. So he's gonna get
- 21:55Speaker 1: to floride sooner or later, especially if the Nazis are saying, dude,
- 21:58Speaker 1: it totally makes your popular anatians docile. Yeah, and they're
- 22:02Speaker 1: like you should try LSD. Yeah. There was a big
- 22:05Speaker 1: exchange was just wow, pretty cool? Is it? Time four
- 22:12Speaker 1: listener mail? All right, Josh, I'm gonna call this I've
- 22:17Speaker 1: got a couple here. I'm gonna call it an answer
- 22:20Speaker 1: to our query that we posed, which one when we
- 22:24Speaker 1: asked what the woman who had the lightning go through
- 22:27Speaker 1: a kitchen and we actually asked yea Paloma. So, Josh,
- 22:30Speaker 1: if you remember, Paloma wrote in and said that she
- 22:32Speaker 1: had this lightning travel through her kitchen and allowed buzzing
- 22:35Speaker 1: popping sound and put it right in front of her
- 22:38Speaker 1: face and passed from one wall to another, absolutely but
- 22:41Speaker 1: left her totally unharmed, totally unharmed, and it didn't even
- 22:44Speaker 1: leave a mark on any of the walls that it
- 22:46Speaker 1: passed through. It did not. And there was no thunder
- 22:49Speaker 1: in the area afterward, right or there was, but it
- 22:52Speaker 1: was far away, Okay, no loud clap of thunder. So
- 22:56Speaker 1: this one is actually we had a few people right in.
- 22:58Speaker 1: But this is from Tyler. He's a grad student at
- 23:01Speaker 1: the Department of Chemical Engineering in Material Science at the
- 23:04Speaker 1: University of Minnesota, class of oh He's a youngster, he is.
- 23:09Speaker 1: He says, uh, I nearly lost it when I heard
- 23:12Speaker 1: your quandary. Today. I've been listening to you guys for
- 23:14Speaker 1: months and never felt had anything truly worthy to add.
- 23:17Speaker 1: But now I'm thrilled. My older sister had gotten a
- 23:20Speaker 1: series of time Life books, remember those containing a plethora
- 23:23Speaker 1: of odd and amazing stories. I think, yeah, yeah, Well
- 23:28Speaker 1: I had the Old West series that was the best.
- 23:29Speaker 1: One shot a man for storing too loud um. When
- 23:33Speaker 1: she moved, I took up the collection and let them
- 23:35Speaker 1: gather dust. However, I recently started reading them, and uh,
- 23:39Speaker 1: they're both entertaining and revealing. The story you read on
- 23:42Speaker 1: the air sounds very close to ball lightning. The only
- 23:46Speaker 1: major difference is that the writer didn't mention any damage
- 23:48Speaker 1: to your house, and most ball lightning stories, UH do
- 23:52Speaker 1: note some some damage. So I'm not a hundred percent sure,
- 23:54Speaker 1: but it sounds like ball lightning. So we got that
- 23:56Speaker 1: from Tyler, and we also got that from Kent and
- 23:58Speaker 1: Elgin Illinois, Brian and Montana who Sarah of unknown origins
- 24:05Speaker 1: Kelsey and a story in New York and Finn again
- 24:09Speaker 1: also said that, and he also requested that I do
- 24:11Speaker 1: my cheek thing and say Ponzi. But fin again, Josh
- 24:15Speaker 1: and I are not dancing monkeys to perform trips for you.
- 24:18Speaker 1: It's a bun sre. You're so easy. I am so easy. Yeah,
- 24:24Speaker 1: so thanks to all of you for writing that in.
- 24:26Speaker 1: I have to say, as far as I know, Ball
- 24:28Speaker 1: Lightnings existence has never been conclusively proven. But again, you
- 24:32Speaker 1: know me, that doesn't doesn't necessarily mean anything, Josh soft
- 24:37Speaker 1: encounter Clark, Yeah, soft encounter with fact. Does that make sense? Yeah?
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- 24:53Speaker 1: Whatever people want to do. And Chuck, didn't you want
- 24:55Speaker 1: to issue a command for this stuff? You should know nation? Oh,
- 24:58Speaker 1: I did you know? It's prusing iTunes? And I was
- 25:00Speaker 1: looking at some of our reviews, which some are very kind,
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- 25:06Speaker 1: But we only had like seven comments, and I saw
- 25:09Speaker 1: that Adam Carolla's podcast had like five thousand. I should
- 25:12Speaker 1: say at this point, Chuck flew into a rage. He
- 25:15Speaker 1: broke chairs, he uh finished off a fifth of whiskey,
- 25:19Speaker 1: and he groped anything in sight, including me. It was ugly.
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