Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Coco Jones On Maturing Through Music, Lessons From Childhood Stardom, Dating Rumors, New Album +More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club, Yep,
- 0:04Speaker 1: the world the most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Charlamagne to God just hilarious is here? NBA is not?
- 0:09Speaker 1: Laura Leo says, filling in, and we got the fabulous
- 0:12Speaker 1: Coco Jones here. What's happening? Coco? Nice album?
- 0:19Speaker 2: It's your debut album, it's my first album.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Why not more? I'm gonna tell you right now, definitely
- 0:23Speaker 1: don't care about you, and I'm gonna tell you why.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why they sent your album at
- 0:29Speaker 1: seven forty four a m. This morning. And I said, no,
- 0:34Speaker 1: we should cancel the interview because it's not fair to
- 0:36Speaker 1: you as an artist, and it's not fair to us
- 0:39Speaker 1: as as hosts, and because because you know you're you're
- 0:41Speaker 1: sitting here now and then you know people will be
- 0:44Speaker 1: in your face talking to you about everything except for
- 0:46Speaker 1: your music, and people will wonder why why are they
- 0:48Speaker 1: always just focused on the mess? Why are they talking
- 0:50Speaker 1: about everything but their music? It's because your label didn't
- 0:52Speaker 1: send it until seven forty four this morning. We're doing
- 0:55Speaker 1: a show. Who got time to listen to the to
- 0:56Speaker 1: the album?
- 0:57Speaker 2: I hear you?
- 0:58Speaker 1: So yes, that's that's the reason why that was the
- 1:00Speaker 1: hold up. So I don't know what the label told you,
- 1:02Speaker 1: but that was the reason. I was like, you know what,
- 1:05Speaker 1: let's cancel the interview.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Dang, so you still want to do it, Yeah, we're
- 1:07Speaker 2: doing it now.
- 1:08Speaker 1: But I just like that Lauren did a crash. Listen.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Maybe that's why I was rushing for these papers. Okay,
- 1:13Speaker 3: because I am a fan. I do feel like you
- 1:14Speaker 3: deserve your moment. But it went down how he said
- 1:17Speaker 3: it went down.
- 1:18Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to listen to it and left.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Andyody was like, I ain't listen to it. I'm not
- 1:21Speaker 1: gonna do it like that.
- 1:22Speaker 4: And he didn't say cancel, he said reschedule. He said
- 1:27Speaker 4: cancel you.
- 1:27Speaker 2: He was like, we should reschedule it because that's not
- 1:29Speaker 2: fair to either.
- 1:30Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think it's fair to you
- 1:32Speaker 1: at all.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I mean, I hear what you're saying.
- 1:34Speaker 5: I definitely feel like I would want you all to
- 1:36Speaker 5: hear it if y'all would want to ask me questions
- 1:38Speaker 5: about it.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I also know, though, like there's only I only got
- 1:42Speaker 2: the right now.
- 1:42Speaker 5: You know, I'm going on tour right after I dropped
- 1:45Speaker 5: this album, so I do want to still talk about
- 1:48Speaker 5: it and I can still I can share what I
- 1:50Speaker 5: know and y'all can listen to it when you get
- 1:52Speaker 5: to listen to it.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Okay, my label.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Let me.
- 2:01Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you just say that.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And it's in the antil seven forty four. This morning
- 2:05Speaker 1: it was a radio station.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I gotta say, I love my label.
- 2:08Speaker 4: They be doing right by me, but doing what I
- 2:11Speaker 4: would do if somebody talk about one of y'all, I'd
- 2:13Speaker 4: be like, what, like.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Y'all while we're.
- 2:22Speaker 4: Here, Hi, Hey, how you feeling. I'm feeling good. I'm
- 2:26Speaker 4: feeling good. I'm happy to be here.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Debut album, Yeah, but like you've been, I feel like
- 2:30Speaker 3: your music has been so big, but this is your
- 2:32Speaker 3: technical like first album.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Yeah, it is my first album ever.
- 2:36Speaker 5: Which is weird though, because I feel like on one
- 2:38Speaker 5: on one side, I feel like it's like deja vu
- 2:40Speaker 5: in away, But on the other side, I'm like, Okay,
- 2:43Speaker 5: technically I have never put out an album, so I've
- 2:46Speaker 5: been it's like weird to say that like an album.
- 2:49Speaker 5: I've been used to say an EP, which is different.
- 2:51Speaker 5: It's different but similar to what is.
- 2:53Speaker 4: The difference What do you think the difference is between
- 2:55Speaker 4: the EP and an actual album.
- 2:57Speaker 5: I think honestly the weight that they hold. I mean,
- 3:00Speaker 5: an EP is like a feeler, it's a little safer,
- 3:03Speaker 5: it's a little like less serious, and then an album
- 3:08Speaker 5: is like, you know, it's a chapter. You really respect
- 3:11Speaker 5: it as an entire project. And then there's like a
- 3:14Speaker 5: way more serious like rollout, and there's way more intentions
- 3:16Speaker 5: behind it. I feel like with my EP, there were
- 3:19Speaker 5: no expectations, and now with my album, I have so
- 3:21Speaker 5: many expectations me myself and then of course.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Like the world.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And that's why the label should send it to people,
- 3:27Speaker 1: especially radio stations before they do interviews. Lauren, you say
- 3:31Speaker 1: what you said before Coco Walking, You keep that better,
- 3:33Speaker 1: keep that same energy.
- 3:34Speaker 3: No, no, I have the first of all, I said
- 3:35Speaker 3: it all in love, so it's gonna be said. But
- 3:38Speaker 3: I'm making sure Jess has the album's research that we
- 3:41Speaker 3: had because I do want to talk about it because
- 3:42Speaker 3: what I feel like happens with you is you have
- 3:44Speaker 3: these big moments like I see you, and when those
- 3:47Speaker 3: things drop, it's everything Coco Jones and we as fans
- 3:50Speaker 3: feel like you are such a prize to R and
- 3:52Speaker 3: B and what you do. You deserve that consistently, but
- 3:55Speaker 3: then when things like today happen that if I didn't push,
- 3:58Speaker 3: we wouldn't be.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Doing this, and you deserve that moment.
- 4:01Speaker 3: It's unfair to you, and I think that that's sometimes
- 4:03Speaker 3: why as a fan, we feel like your music like suffers,
- 4:05Speaker 3: like we have to like search for more than just
- 4:07Speaker 3: like the clickie stuff. And you know, like even in
- 4:09Speaker 3: listening to the music, I was happy we got to
- 4:11Speaker 3: listen to it, even though I only got the five songs,
- 4:13Speaker 3: because I could even feel in your music this is
- 4:15Speaker 3: different because to me, it's like you're more into yourself.
- 4:18Speaker 2: There's a lot more like sexual conversation. If you're a woman.
- 4:21Speaker 3: You're here, and I know that that's what you want
- 4:23Speaker 3: people to see you as because you've worked so hard.
- 4:25Speaker 3: I don't think sometimes that the way that things appear
- 4:28Speaker 3: to us as fans, that they're set up. You get that,
- 4:30Speaker 3: and I don't think it's fair to you. That's what
- 4:32Speaker 3: I said before you came in here.
- 4:33Speaker 2: I could definitely understand that perspective.
- 4:35Speaker 5: I feel like also though, like there's just so much
- 4:39Speaker 5: out every freaking day, you know, so in general, it's
- 4:43Speaker 5: like who has the real formula.
- 4:45Speaker 2: To put everyone's eyes on that one thing all the time.
- 4:49Speaker 5: If so, then everyone would copy that and then that
- 4:51Speaker 5: would be a wash, you know what I'm saying. So
- 4:53Speaker 5: I'm like, there really is no formula. I can understand that,
- 4:56Speaker 5: but I'm like, I don't even know what to tell
- 4:57Speaker 5: people to do.
- 4:58Speaker 2: The people lot.
- 4:58Speaker 5: I'm seeing what they're supposed to do because I'm looking
- 5:01Speaker 5: at you right there. I'm seeing you doing the things
- 5:03Speaker 5: you know, and I'm doing everything that I'm told to do.
- 5:06Speaker 5: So it's like it's it's no real formula, it's how
- 5:08Speaker 5: you look at it. And I love the way that
- 5:10Speaker 5: you look at it because it's a lot that you
- 5:12Speaker 5: have to offer.
- 5:12Speaker 4: You an actress, you're an artist, and speaking of how
- 5:16Speaker 4: we look at things, taste, the visual, what made you
- 5:19Speaker 4: step out and be like that?
- 5:20Speaker 2: I've never seen you like that?
- 5:23Speaker 4: Now, you're always sexy, always, you know what I mean,
- 5:25Speaker 4: But you've never ever popped out like that the visual
- 5:29Speaker 4: for taste? What made you say I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 5:32Speaker 4: just give them a lot more sexy than she was
- 5:36Speaker 4: very much time is now I'm saying, never even know
- 5:40Speaker 4: that she could dance like that, honestly, clockt.
- 5:53Speaker 2: What what ignited that Coco Jones Fire.
- 5:56Speaker 5: What was that? Well, first of all, I mean the
- 5:59Speaker 5: song it's self, it is sexy, you know what I'm saying.
- 6:03Speaker 5: But I think for me, I want people to already know, like, hey,
- 6:09Speaker 5: she does multiple different sides of her, Like of course
- 6:12Speaker 5: I can do like the belting and I'm in my
- 6:14Speaker 5: feelings and I'm going there and it's vocals and it's
- 6:16Speaker 5: all of that, but like, I don't want to do
- 6:17Speaker 5: a whole show of that. You know, That's just not
- 6:19Speaker 5: how I authentically feel right now. I mean, I'm twenty seven.
- 6:23Speaker 5: I have other sides to me, the way I talk
- 6:24Speaker 5: with my girls, the way I talk when I'm mad,
- 6:26Speaker 5: Like I want to be able to show those different
- 6:27Speaker 5: sides too. So I feel like, when do I do that,
- 6:30Speaker 5: it would have to be now, you know what I'm saying,
- 6:32Speaker 5: to like get people warmed up to different versions of me.
- 6:35Speaker 5: And honestly, when I made Taste, my album was already done.
- 6:38Speaker 5: It was supposed to be out in October, and then
- 6:41Speaker 5: it just wasn't flowing right, so we you know, pushed
- 6:44Speaker 5: it back, and so I kind of had no I
- 6:46Speaker 5: guess expectations that I put on myself. Yeah, and I
- 6:49Speaker 5: was kind of like I did my part so like
- 6:50Speaker 5: I'm just gonna have fun, and then that led to Taste,
- 6:53Speaker 5: which to me, it was just so fun and it
- 6:55Speaker 5: was freeing and it was scary, so I just I
- 6:58Speaker 5: just wanted to do it.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I was scared.
- 7:00Speaker 1: So what was def Jam? You had that since October?
- 7:04Speaker 1: Def Jam didn't sit until seven forty four this morning?
- 7:06Speaker 2: You know what, where is the grace in the room?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Where is it?
- 7:11Speaker 1: Where is aisten? I just want the best for Coco Jones.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Thank you said that they're doing good things for you.
- 7:16Speaker 1: I'm just simply saying, why not more?
- 7:18Speaker 2: Okay, well you ate that part.
- 7:19Speaker 1: That's all.
- 7:19Speaker 2: I ate that parts the album.
- 7:21Speaker 5: But anyway, so a version of it was done in October,
- 7:24Speaker 5: but a lot of it changed. A lot of a
- 7:26Speaker 5: change like me, I mean, Taste happened because there was
- 7:28Speaker 5: no you know, there was no expectation, and it was
- 7:31Speaker 5: scary because I was gonna get mixed reactions. I knew that,
- 7:33Speaker 5: like some people were going to be like, you're this girl,
- 7:35Speaker 5: You're the singing girl, don't dance, don't do that, don't
- 7:37Speaker 5: be sexy, you know what I'm saying, And then other
- 7:38Speaker 5: people were going to live for it. So I kind
- 7:40Speaker 5: of just had to be okay with that because I
- 7:42Speaker 5: feel like, what am I supposed to do? You know,
- 7:43Speaker 5: it's my life too, and I'm still a developing artist.
- 7:46Speaker 5: These are the things I want to do and try
- 7:48Speaker 5: and maybe one day I'll look back. I mean I
- 7:49Speaker 5: probably would look back at some of the things that
- 7:51Speaker 5: I did and be like, but like, give me the.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Time, though you keep it. I mean I did be like, funny,
- 7:56Speaker 2: you keep it tasteful when you.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Do absolutely even taste was tasteful and it was the
- 8:01Speaker 4: non to Britain experience. Well actually though that was that
- 8:03Speaker 4: was it was cut down and down and down.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I really did.
- 8:07Speaker 5: I'm gonna say I really did try a lot of
- 8:11Speaker 5: things because I wanted to see what they look like
- 8:13Speaker 5: on myself. Because also like I don't know how I
- 8:18Speaker 5: feel doing something until I try it. So either I
- 8:21Speaker 5: could live with like the regret and the fear of
- 8:22Speaker 5: like I don't even want to push it like that,
- 8:24Speaker 5: or I could try things and luckily I have a
- 8:26Speaker 5: team who's like, try it. You know, they'll they'll help
- 8:28Speaker 5: me facilitate figuring out who I am all the way.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And so I did do way more than that's in
- 8:34Speaker 2: that video. So it just wasn't saying right, is that why?
- 8:37Speaker 3: So to the time that he talked about October to
- 8:39Speaker 3: when we getting it down, and that's why things have
- 8:41Speaker 3: been like changing and that's.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Why we got the stuff like because everything was changing.
- 8:44Speaker 5: No, the songs changed from October, some of them changed,
- 8:47Speaker 5: some of them changed from October to now the album
- 8:50Speaker 5: coming out, but Taste the video, I was just saying, like, yeah,
- 8:53Speaker 5: the edits of it like they it got shopped and
- 8:57Speaker 5: screwed a lot because I wasn't feeling some the ways
- 9:00Speaker 5: that I looked. I wasn't feeling for myself, like it
- 9:02Speaker 5: didn't feel like me. You know, some of it felt
- 9:04Speaker 5: like me trying to do something versus some of it
- 9:08Speaker 5: felt like me being me. And I just kept what
- 9:10Speaker 5: was like a green light in my spirit, you know?
- 9:13Speaker 2: Is that is now? Is Coco en taste?
- 9:17Speaker 4: Are Is that like happy in a relationship, Coco, or
- 9:20Speaker 4: like I'm getting I'm getting done right, Coco. I think
- 9:25Speaker 4: what I'm saying or is that just just a side
- 9:27Speaker 4: of you that we have not seen that you just
- 9:29Speaker 4: you you know what I'm saying. I think it's just
- 9:31Speaker 4: I'm grown and you know me and my girls. We
- 9:34Speaker 4: taught like this, like when we when we're flirty, like
- 9:36Speaker 4: when we're sensual, like were grown.
- 9:39Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like music is all of
- 9:41Speaker 5: the things. It's in love, it's late night, it's anger,
- 9:45Speaker 5: it's all of these emotions. So I wanted to in
- 9:47Speaker 5: this album. I wanted to try to show all the
- 9:49Speaker 5: different sides of me and really just learn, like learn
- 9:52Speaker 5: from myself.
- 9:53Speaker 2: How did that?
- 9:53Speaker 5: How did that make me feel? How did the video
- 9:55Speaker 5: make me feel? How the response is Being on tour
- 9:57Speaker 5: and seeing what people like and what they don't like,
- 9:59Speaker 5: it all all kind of is like lights up in
- 10:02Speaker 5: my brain, Like Okay, now I know that, Like I
- 10:04Speaker 5: feel like it highlights things. And then I'm like, oh
- 10:07Speaker 5: that's what I like. Oh That's what I should be
- 10:09Speaker 5: doing more of, you know what I'm saying, Like.
- 10:10Speaker 3: So okay, because first of all, when you talk about relationships,
- 10:14Speaker 3: you're glowing instantly. We had so you somebody's leaving a
- 10:18Speaker 3: legacy on your lips when they kiss you. Then you
- 10:20Speaker 3: got a e O m G.
- 10:24Speaker 2: It was something to say.
- 10:31Speaker 3: It sounds when you're feeling good, when you're in the
- 10:33Speaker 3: midst of all of the things you got that one girl.
- 10:36Speaker 2: You got the song where I forget Here we Go?
- 10:38Speaker 3: Is that the song where you talking about you try
- 10:39Speaker 3: and get over somebody but then won't leave you along
- 10:41Speaker 3: because but you lay up with your new boo. You've
- 10:43Speaker 3: been talking about being happy in these interviews and the
- 10:46Speaker 3: people are saying that it's Donovan Mitchell.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Is this your bab? Is that what's happening?
- 10:49Speaker 1: I'm happy.
- 10:50Speaker 2: That's all I got to say about it. I mean, okay,
- 10:55Speaker 2: so it is and the music gives happy, So I'm
- 10:57Speaker 2: happy for you.
- 10:59Speaker 4: Yes, No the nigga who sell houses irid.
- 11:06Speaker 5: But no, I talk about as much as I feel
- 11:08Speaker 5: like I want to talk about because I'm not the
- 11:11Speaker 5: type to be giving out all of my yeahs. That's
- 11:14Speaker 5: not my truth. I give as much as I can,
- 11:17Speaker 5: and I give my everything when it comes to this
- 11:19Speaker 5: music shit. So I'm like, yeah, I'm happy, and yeah,
- 11:22Speaker 5: y'all know it is.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Did you write all the songs on the on the album?
- 11:24Speaker 2: I co wrote a lot of them, I will say,
- 11:27Speaker 2: and a couple of them I didn't write, Okay, here
- 11:30Speaker 2: we Go? Did you write here we Go? Okay?
- 11:32Speaker 3: When I listen to it, I can feel that you
- 11:34Speaker 3: wrote it because of the way that you sing it
- 11:36Speaker 3: versus some of the other songs. Not that they're not good,
- 11:37Speaker 3: but you beat Yes, I heard that, yeah that when
- 11:41Speaker 3: I was like this one right here, I know she
- 11:43Speaker 3: wrote this one. I just I feel that when you're
- 11:45Speaker 3: writing and you say you don't want to give everything
- 11:47Speaker 3: to everybody. But I listened to this project and I'm like,
- 11:49Speaker 3: oh my girl, it's in love and it's good. How
- 11:52Speaker 3: do you hold back on certain things to not give
- 11:54Speaker 3: it all because it's it's oozing out of you in
- 11:56Speaker 3: the music?
- 11:57Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you well. I feel like a lot
- 12:00Speaker 5: of the things I talk about are very relatable. It's
- 12:03Speaker 5: not like I'm like and then we pulled up at
- 12:05Speaker 5: something like and it's very specific to me.
- 12:07Speaker 2: You know.
- 12:07Speaker 5: I try to make songs that are useful, you know
- 12:09Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I'm trying to say things that
- 12:11Speaker 5: I feel, but in a general way. And also, I
- 12:13Speaker 5: love to co write because I feel like I don't
- 12:15Speaker 5: have the only perspective and I'm trying to make songs that,
- 12:18Speaker 5: you know, have a wider range of perspectives. So I'll
- 12:20Speaker 5: be having me and somebody else or a couple of
- 12:23Speaker 5: people going back and forth to make it feel like
- 12:25Speaker 5: this is what we really say, This is how we
- 12:26Speaker 5: really talk as people.
- 12:28Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And then also I feel
- 12:30Speaker 2: like other than that, in like interviews, you know, you just.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Pivot right line from here we go because I don't
- 12:39Speaker 1: know what this mean? Why has got to be your way?
- 12:41Speaker 1: I wanted to be mine? What you think this is for?
- 12:44Speaker 1: Play must be out your mind, Like.
- 12:45Speaker 5: I was basically saying, when you're playing with somebody's emotions,
- 12:49Speaker 5: when you in and out of their life, like like
- 12:52Speaker 5: do you feel like that's funny or hot or like
- 12:55Speaker 5: are you into that?
- 12:56Speaker 1: Like what's wrong with oh okay okay, okay, okay, okay,
- 12:59Speaker 1: So cause you use word four plates, but you're talking.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Like are you thinking you when.
- 13:03Speaker 2: You're playing with my life? When you're playing, like, do
- 13:06Speaker 2: you think I like that? Because in the songs, she's like, Yo,
- 13:08Speaker 2: I'm happy over here.
- 13:09Speaker 3: I like where I'm at. But you just you pop
- 13:11Speaker 3: up in my likes, you showing up places like you
- 13:13Speaker 3: think that this is like this is it like that,
- 13:15Speaker 3: no leave me alone? But he's not leaving her alone.
- 13:17Speaker 3: And those guys be kind of little key having a
- 13:19Speaker 3: little hold even though they shouldn't like the guy. So
- 13:22Speaker 3: if you're moved on and you're trying.
- 13:24Speaker 2: To just like everybody has had that person that you
- 13:30Speaker 2: know can always slide.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Back either, You're right, I don't have that because I'm
- 13:35Speaker 3: disconnected from anything toxic and I'm moving into my glory
- 13:38Speaker 3: and my happiness.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Wow. I love that. That is so foul that no,
- 13:48Speaker 2: I know they be in your phone, that you just
- 13:50Speaker 2: be blocking that I'm they he won. That was the
- 13:53Speaker 2: one together pivoted.
- 13:59Speaker 1: So that was where we going with this.
- 14:02Speaker 2: When warn anyway, I thank you because.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Why why?
- 14:09Speaker 2: Why? More?
- 14:10Speaker 1: Why not more?
- 14:11Speaker 5: What?
- 14:11Speaker 2: What did you did you come up with that title?
- 14:13Speaker 5: Okay, So it's one of the songs that is on
- 14:16Speaker 5: the album. It's actually featuring wy D Marley, and it's
- 14:19Speaker 5: really dope. It's like an island vibe. And I really
- 14:22Speaker 5: loved that title because I felt like that's what I
- 14:24Speaker 5: kept asking myself, like why would I hold back? You know,
- 14:27Speaker 5: why wouldn't I do the things that I feel like
- 14:29Speaker 5: I really want to do? And I feel like all
- 14:31Speaker 5: the answers were rooted in fear, like, oh, they might
- 14:33Speaker 5: not like it or it might not work, And I'm
- 14:35Speaker 5: like I would rather just try things and be able
- 14:38Speaker 5: to like learn from them, then then not try and
- 14:42Speaker 5: wonder what would have happened, if you know. So that
- 14:44Speaker 5: kind of led to why Not More being the album name,
- 14:47Speaker 5: but also I feel like it was a little less serious,
- 14:49Speaker 5: like it was meaning why not More or like self
- 14:51Speaker 5: titled Coco whatever. But I'm like, I don't even know
- 14:53Speaker 5: if I fully know Coco yet myself, So I don't
- 14:56Speaker 5: know if that's my truest true is true?
- 14:57Speaker 2: Is truth? To name my album?
- 14:58Speaker 1: That?
- 14:58Speaker 5: I feel like why not More resonated with me more
- 15:01Speaker 5: because I'm just I ask myself a lot of questions,
- 15:03Speaker 5: I ask my team a lot of questions.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I'm very curious and I'm still like trying to figure
- 15:06Speaker 2: it out.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I love that because it feels like, you know, you
- 15:09Speaker 1: give your all to everything you do. So when you
- 15:12Speaker 1: give your all but death jam doesn't. How does that
- 15:14Speaker 1: make you feel?
- 15:16Speaker 2: Why are you still on that? You know why? I'm
- 15:21Speaker 2: just asking that one time from the store.
- 15:23Speaker 4: This is crazy, It is crazy, My god. I'm like,
- 15:28Speaker 4: here's what I really feel.
- 15:29Speaker 5: I really feel like it takes a lot of effort
- 15:33Speaker 5: and time to make an artist work and for a
- 15:36Speaker 5: developing artist, and I feel like I want what I
- 15:38Speaker 5: really want people to do is to look at me
- 15:40Speaker 5: with the perspective of like, I'm not trying to do
- 15:42Speaker 5: like the trending here today and I'm gone type thing.
- 15:45Speaker 5: I'm trying to make things that are timeless. But that
- 15:47Speaker 5: takes time and that takes effort, And I feel like
- 15:50Speaker 5: I have a team that does a lot for me
- 15:52Speaker 5: and has effort for me, Like I wouldn't be up
- 15:54Speaker 5: here saying that if that was my truth.
- 15:55Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 15:56Speaker 1: When they dropped the ball this morning and at a
- 16:00Speaker 1: crucial time like this, they shouldn't be doing that. That's
- 16:02Speaker 1: all I'm saying.
- 16:03Speaker 2: So when would you prefer to listen to it a
- 16:04Speaker 2: week ago?
- 16:06Speaker 1: You were on the schedule. A week ago should have
- 16:08Speaker 1: been the album. We should have marinated with the album
- 16:10Speaker 1: for a while to really be able to have a conversation.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I think albums are different than movies. I don't like
- 16:14Speaker 1: to watch movies before I have conversations with people about
- 16:17Speaker 1: their movies because you don't want to spoil it.
- 16:18Speaker 2: But I think albums, Okay, well, I got five singles out,
- 16:21Speaker 2: did you listen to them? They've been out?
- 16:24Speaker 1: When you let me hear this morning Taste, and it
- 16:27Speaker 1: was another one was the one you let me this
- 16:28Speaker 1: morning hear, I go here we go taste.
- 16:31Speaker 2: You need to hear that ae O MG, so he
- 16:33Speaker 2: knows you think? So yeah what he said American Eagle?
- 16:39Speaker 5: Oh my guy?
- 16:45Speaker 2: What does that mean? For real?
- 16:46Speaker 1: Though? Ay?
- 16:47Speaker 2: OMG. So basically it's just like a freaky song and
- 16:50Speaker 2: it's like legs on the legs on the ceiling.
- 16:53Speaker 5: Got me like MG, like it's just something to say.
- 16:56Speaker 5: It's just MG is But when is the AE was
- 17:00Speaker 5: you know when you say your vowels.
- 17:01Speaker 2: A E, I owe you that? Yeah, like she's just yeah,
- 17:09Speaker 2: we were just having fun.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Vowels.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I can't with that. But no, I'm really excited and
- 17:19Speaker 2: you could listen to the album. It'll be out on Friday,
- 17:21Speaker 2: and then I'm curious to hear your thoughts next time
- 17:23Speaker 2: I see you.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, will you finish him?
- 17:27Speaker 2: Oh?
- 17:27Speaker 3: I got more stuff that I want to ask you. So,
- 17:30Speaker 3: even in this moment right now, you're handling this conversation
- 17:32Speaker 3: very very well.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Is this because you've done everything from Disney to we've
- 17:36Speaker 3: seen your Fresh Prince Belair, the Remaker what is it
- 17:39Speaker 3: called on Peacocklair on belair. You've been doing it for
- 17:42Speaker 3: a long time. Does that Does this your ability to
- 17:46Speaker 3: do this and still say human come from that or
- 17:49Speaker 3: are you daily like kind of like prepping yourself up, like, hey,
- 17:52Speaker 3: these are things that are going to be asked.
- 17:54Speaker 2: I got to be ready for like are you just
- 17:56Speaker 2: going and you're like, YOA, I got this.
- 17:57Speaker 5: No. I think I do have to remind myself like
- 18:00Speaker 5: when I'm doing press, like, okay, these are probably things
- 18:02Speaker 5: that people are gonna want to talk about. What do
- 18:04Speaker 5: I like, I want to be into myself, what I
- 18:07Speaker 5: want to say, you know what I'm saying so that
- 18:08Speaker 5: I'm not like caught off guard, even though you did
- 18:11Speaker 5: kind of catch you off guard. I can't any hope,
- 18:13Speaker 5: but you know, I do have that media training period.
- 18:16Speaker 5: But other than that, I feel like I feel like honestly,
- 18:20Speaker 5: having the window of time where nobody was really checking
- 18:23Speaker 5: for me really brought me to earth, you know, and
- 18:27Speaker 5: it in a way not like I was a gas
- 18:28Speaker 5: up or anything, but I was just like a kid
- 18:29Speaker 5: actor and like you didn't.
- 18:30Speaker 2: You don't really have a personality, you.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying, You're just doing You're just doing
- 18:33Speaker 5: what you gotta do and you love it and that's
- 18:35Speaker 5: happy and that's fun.
- 18:36Speaker 2: But I didn't live at all, Like I didn't experience much.
- 18:39Speaker 2: I was not like wild'n out. I didn't.
- 18:42Speaker 5: I didn't do anything really because I wanted to work,
- 18:45Speaker 5: so I just wanted to be right for the job.
- 18:47Speaker 5: So I think that brought me to a reality and
- 18:50Speaker 5: like a kind of normalcy that I feel like I'm
- 18:52Speaker 5: I even now, I'm like, hey, I'm really not like
- 18:55Speaker 5: normal like I feel like I am. But you know,
- 18:57Speaker 5: I can't just go and move the way I want
- 18:59Speaker 5: to move because life is different. But I feel like
- 19:01Speaker 5: I'm like I'm never going to be able to change
- 19:03Speaker 5: because that window of.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Time like was so real to me of like absolutely nothing.
- 19:10Speaker 5: Going on that I feel like it'll never like nothing
- 19:13Speaker 5: will really gas my head up and nothing will really
- 19:15Speaker 5: take me down ever.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Again, what it is stuck with you? You know you
- 19:18Speaker 1: were a child start, So from what did you learn
- 19:20Speaker 1: as a child star that stays with you? Nothing?
- 19:24Speaker 5: That this is business sometimes and it's not personal and
- 19:26Speaker 5: I can't like let it correlate with my self worth.
- 19:29Speaker 5: You know, some of it is like so out of
- 19:31Speaker 5: my control that it's like and it's gone. You know,
- 19:34Speaker 5: it's really not me. It's really not me, you know.
- 19:37Speaker 5: And as long as I like I feel like I'm
- 19:39Speaker 5: giving my all to the things that are in my control,
- 19:41Speaker 5: I'm happy, you know. And there's so much that I like.
- 19:43Speaker 5: I can't make this album do any of the things
- 19:45Speaker 5: that I wanted to do. I can't make anything be
- 19:47Speaker 5: the way that I want it to be. But what
- 19:50Speaker 5: I create that I can control, So that to me,
- 19:53Speaker 5: I feel like has become the only thing that I
- 19:55Speaker 5: correlate with, Like did I do a good job or not?
- 19:58Speaker 2: Like is it something that I could control? Did I
- 20:00Speaker 2: do my all there?
- 20:01Speaker 1: And I'm happy with That's your serenity prayer.
- 20:03Speaker 2: That's a serenity prayer, your that is right serenity prayer.
- 20:06Speaker 1: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I
- 20:07Speaker 1: can change, courage and change the things I can, and
- 20:09Speaker 1: the wisdom to know the difference. Yeah, once you put
- 20:11Speaker 1: that album mount into the ecosystem sute of your control,
- 20:15Speaker 1: whatever it sells, whatever radio does with it, like, it's
- 20:18Speaker 1: you did the best you could already in the studio.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
- 20:21Speaker 4: I love how you defend your team. I love how
- 20:24Speaker 4: you speak up for your team. And I love the
- 20:28Speaker 4: fact that your mom has been like by your side
- 20:31Speaker 4: through all this. So she your manager.
- 20:33Speaker 5: No, my mom's not my manager. She she was for
- 20:36Speaker 5: the time when they're body you know. But yeah, I
- 20:38Speaker 5: feel like now my mom is more like my wife's counsel.
- 20:41Speaker 2: And I love that.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Yeah, she was. Definitely when she makes sure to tell her,
- 20:44Speaker 1: make sure to tell her. Make sure to tell deaf jam.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Make sure to tell your mom about death Jam.
- 20:49Speaker 2: She's gonna watch this. You's gonna watch it. She probably
- 20:51Speaker 2: gonna be your d M.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Definitely, she's gonna say thank you, Okay, intend to cook
- 20:56Speaker 3: on her first mind ever, well her, that would really
- 21:00Speaker 3: the first. It was like it was like it was
- 21:02Speaker 3: like the first uh first just brought up your mom
- 21:07Speaker 3: and I know your mom used to help you do
- 21:09Speaker 3: in package all those times.
- 21:10Speaker 5: Actually she said she bought a lot of little little
- 21:12Speaker 5: packaging stickers and put them all there like squares and
- 21:15Speaker 5: put it in the thing and then it came out
- 21:16Speaker 5: printed like that.
- 21:16Speaker 2: I don't know how she did that. It's really giving it.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I used to go to the office Max and get
- 21:21Speaker 1: those stickers and you used to put them on there.
- 21:22Speaker 1: That's how you used start the mixtapes and everything.
- 21:24Speaker 5: Dang, I don't know how she figured out how to
- 21:27Speaker 5: do that, but yeah, my mom was definitely like, you go,
- 21:30Speaker 5: you got to have somebody who's willing to take you
- 21:31Speaker 5: to those places to wait on them sets for you
- 21:34Speaker 5: and like to you know, a job that you're auditioning for.
- 21:36Speaker 2: You might not hear back whether you or not.
- 21:38Speaker 5: You got that four months, and you might have to
- 21:40Speaker 5: do so much in the meantime to like prove your
- 21:43Speaker 5: prove your worth, you know, so somebody, especially if you're
- 21:46Speaker 5: you know, you're a kid, somebody's got to be willing
- 21:48Speaker 5: to do that with you. And I think my whole
- 21:49Speaker 5: family honestly has invested in this because me and my
- 21:52Speaker 5: mom would be gone. So that means my mom was
- 21:54Speaker 5: gone from her kids, my mom was gone from her husband.
- 21:57Speaker 5: We all like we knew what it was that we
- 21:58Speaker 5: were like working awards and so my win is like
- 22:02Speaker 5: is everybody's win because we all all put something in.
- 22:05Speaker 1: What were your earliest memories of wanting to be who
- 22:07Speaker 1: you are now? Was that your dream or did somebody
- 22:10Speaker 1: instill that dream in you?
- 22:12Speaker 5: It was definitely me, Like even when I look at
- 22:14Speaker 5: little kid videos of me, like I would be like
- 22:16Speaker 5: not even fully forming sentences, but I would be singing though,
- 22:19Speaker 5: and they'd be like singing and I'd be like, yes,
- 22:21Speaker 5: I would love to sing.
- 22:22Speaker 2: So it was it was always me. I didn't think
- 22:24Speaker 2: that like it could be a tangible job though, Like
- 22:27Speaker 2: I knew.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Sports was a real job because my dad played the NFL,
- 22:29Speaker 5: so I was like, Okay, this is a real job,
- 22:30Speaker 5: this can actually be something you do. But I didn't
- 22:33Speaker 5: know music could be something you really do. I saw
- 22:35Speaker 5: it on TV and I thought, you know, those people
- 22:38Speaker 5: are doing that. But it wasn't until like my mom
- 22:41Speaker 5: introduced me to the opportunities that I was like, you
- 22:43Speaker 5: can try to do this yourself, like it's something I
- 22:46Speaker 5: could do, and then.
- 22:47Speaker 2: There was no stopping me.
- 22:48Speaker 1: But then you also had absence because you got ano
- 22:50Speaker 1: acting as well. Yeah yeah, so which bug do you
- 22:53Speaker 1: think you know? And I guess infected you the most.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Music definitely mean.
- 22:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I respect acting because it's definitely outside my comfort
- 23:00Speaker 5: zone and it's stories that are like outside of me,
- 23:03Speaker 5: and you do it well, thank you, thank you.
- 23:05Speaker 2: But I think music is like it's just like home
- 23:07Speaker 2: to me. It just feels safe. So that was your
- 23:09Speaker 2: first love of it and acting? Yeah? Absolutely. Are you
- 23:12Speaker 2: looking forward to more film though?
- 23:14Speaker 5: Oh yes, I literally went to South Africa this year
- 23:16Speaker 5: to do a film and I really think it's going
- 23:18Speaker 5: to be dope. I really ideally I would love to
- 23:20Speaker 5: be able to do both every year. I think that
- 23:23Speaker 5: that's really cool when artists can do that, So I
- 23:26Speaker 5: want to try to keep that up.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Oh do you have a favorite song on this album
- 23:30Speaker 2: or why not?
- 23:30Speaker 4: More?
- 23:31Speaker 2: My favorite song?
- 23:32Speaker 5: I mean it changes all the time, but I would
- 23:36Speaker 5: say right now it's probably by myself. It's called It's
- 23:42Speaker 5: called by Myself. It's basically saying I want to be
- 23:44Speaker 5: comfortable by myself. I think I love that one because,
- 23:49Speaker 5: you know, like it reminds me, like what's really important.
- 23:52Speaker 5: Like I gotta know myself. You know, whatever's happening around
- 23:55Speaker 5: me is gonna I can't let it influence me or
- 23:58Speaker 5: affect me. I gotta know myself. And also I want
- 24:01Speaker 5: to be really in tune with myself. I don't want
- 24:03Speaker 5: to lose my voice. Yeah, knowing who I am, knowing
- 24:06Speaker 5: what I want out of all of this, Knowing what's
- 24:08Speaker 5: important to me, and also if this all went away,
- 24:10Speaker 5: it would be me by myself.
- 24:12Speaker 2: I cool with that. I always want to check myself
- 24:14Speaker 2: upt that.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Have you always feel comfortable by yourself?
- 24:16Speaker 5: No?
- 24:16Speaker 2: No, I definitely feel like.
- 24:19Speaker 5: If anything, I felt like something was wrong if I
- 24:21Speaker 5: didn't have people around me, like maybe like you know,
- 24:24Speaker 5: you're not doing what you need to be doing, you're
- 24:26Speaker 5: not booked with all the things like nah. But I
- 24:28Speaker 5: think also by myself, to me, it doesn't mean alone.
- 24:31Speaker 5: It means like intentionally sitting with yourself, like like learning
- 24:37Speaker 5: yourself and taking that quiet time. I feel like that's
- 24:38Speaker 5: when I get a lot of ideas. I feel like
- 24:41Speaker 5: that's when I can like feel things and like unpack things,
- 24:44Speaker 5: like what the heck was that? Actually I really didn't
- 24:46Speaker 5: like the way he was saying that. You know what
- 24:47Speaker 5: I'm saying nothing like that. I'm just saying, like you
- 24:50Speaker 5: really like can think about things that are going on.
- 24:52Speaker 5: There's so much sound, there's so much going on, there's
- 24:54Speaker 5: so much fast paced that being by yourself, I feel
- 24:56Speaker 5: like it's like crucial for self growth.
- 24:58Speaker 2: You know, did you see that viral video of you?
- 25:01Speaker 4: And the reason why I did you see because a
- 25:02Speaker 4: lot of people don't be seeing stuff for themselves, like
- 25:04Speaker 4: just because it hits blogs don't means you see it.
- 25:07Speaker 4: But this is why I was so shocked when when
- 25:09Speaker 4: I saw a taste, because it was a video a
- 25:11Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago that I saw that went viral. Uh,
- 25:15Speaker 4: and it was you rehearsing. She was looking like I
- 25:19Speaker 4: ain't doing all that because they was like gy rating
- 25:22Speaker 4: on each other. I guess your choreographer or whoever was
- 25:25Speaker 4: displaying what they wanted to do, and you, like.
- 25:29Speaker 2: Your face was like, I'm not No.
- 25:30Speaker 5: I was so scared it was okay. So he was
- 25:33Speaker 5: throwing her up in the air. Yes, and I'm tall,
- 25:36Speaker 5: but I don't like heights that I can't. It ain't
- 25:39Speaker 5: my choice, you know. But that's why I was looking
- 25:41Speaker 5: scared of But I was proud of myself. I told
- 25:43Speaker 5: I told the choreographer at least, I said, do what
- 25:45Speaker 5: you would do, not what you think I can do,
- 25:49Speaker 5: and let me see what happens.
- 25:50Speaker 2: After day, I got it's too hard, I'm gonna tell you, Gila,
- 25:52Speaker 2: And some of it was just too hard, but I
- 25:54Speaker 2: was proud of myself like trying it. I was literally
- 25:56Speaker 2: in a hoop.
- 25:56Speaker 5: I had an air list come and like teach me
- 25:58Speaker 5: how to be in a hoop and for what part
- 26:00Speaker 5: of the video? I really was proud of myself went
- 26:02Speaker 5: outside of my coming zone.
- 26:03Speaker 1: I was living for it.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about earlier the moment you said when
- 26:07Speaker 3: people weren't checking for you. It's like in between your
- 26:09Speaker 3: Disney and like your next song and stuff of that nature.
- 26:11Speaker 3: And I watched an interview where you were saying that
- 26:13Speaker 3: you were like almost embarrassed to go out and get
- 26:15Speaker 3: a job at certain points and things of that nature.
- 26:17Speaker 3: How do you do it because people were virally saying
- 26:19Speaker 3: things about where you've been and stuff. How do you
- 26:21Speaker 3: deal with those moments when you're viral? But it's like
- 26:23Speaker 3: for stuff that you don't care to be viral for
- 26:25Speaker 3: now that you know yourself a bit, but you're still
- 26:27Speaker 3: figuring yourself out.
- 26:30Speaker 5: I feel like the Internet isn't real. I'm like, what
- 26:33Speaker 5: is this place? It's not even like for real. What's
- 26:35Speaker 5: real is the people that I tangibly talk to who
- 26:38Speaker 5: know me, you know. So I'm like, this is so
- 26:41Speaker 5: not real. So if something is going viral, I mean
- 26:43Speaker 5: I might get a little sommer drop like y cause
- 26:45Speaker 5: I'm like used to people talking about my music only
- 26:48Speaker 5: and so anything else is getting. It's like it's still
- 26:50Speaker 5: new to me that people care about what I got
- 26:52Speaker 5: going on. Personally, I'm like, y'all care about that?
- 26:54Speaker 2: Okay, how can we talk.
- 26:56Speaker 1: About your music if we don't get the album? Tell
- 26:58Speaker 1: the seven forty four that's not your fault though it's
- 27:01Speaker 1: talk about that. Cham continue anyway.
- 27:04Speaker 5: I really don't take it seriously because I feel like
- 27:07Speaker 5: people's attention Spanish social it'll be important today, gone tomorrow.
- 27:11Speaker 4: Yeah, if you don't talk about it. That's why I
- 27:13Speaker 4: had to ask you, did you see the video I'm
- 27:14Speaker 4: talking about because a lot of it far removed from
- 27:18Speaker 4: social media and the internet.
- 27:19Speaker 2: It's not a real place.
- 27:20Speaker 4: It's a whole bunch of people who just say shit
- 27:24Speaker 4: and just because they feel like they can have a
- 27:27Speaker 4: voice now it's like all right, cool so and I
- 27:29Speaker 4: feel like.
- 27:30Speaker 5: Even when people are like talking, I'm like, they're still talking.
- 27:33Speaker 5: I'm like, go stream the record. If you're about something,
- 27:35Speaker 5: go streaming the difference.
- 27:37Speaker 2: I know that's right. I'm not mad. I'm not blocking nobody.
- 27:39Speaker 2: If you want to talk, keep it on. I need
- 27:41Speaker 2: them to know that you're active on this page. Go ahead.
- 27:44Speaker 1: What are the plans for the album released? This weekend.
- 27:46Speaker 2: I have a party in Miami on Saturday, in LA
- 27:49Speaker 2: on Saturday.
- 27:52Speaker 5: And I'm doing a performance tonight that is like an
- 27:55Speaker 5: exclusive thing with Motorilla. But I'm really excited. I'm going
- 27:59Speaker 5: on tour, so been prepping for that. I'm doing interviews
- 28:01Speaker 5: during the day and I've been doing my rehearsals at night.
- 28:04Speaker 5: I'm excited to put the show together and performing everywhere.
- 28:07Speaker 5: I'm going to Europe too to do some shows. I'm
- 28:10Speaker 5: really excited for it.
- 28:11Speaker 2: I can't wait to write a song about this. Him
- 28:13Speaker 2: getting on your nerves all day to day.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Oh yeah, please, I am here for Coco. Coco was
- 28:17Speaker 1: born in Sccoline and she was raising Tennessee, but she
- 28:19Speaker 1: got that socculine and so I just want her to
- 28:22Speaker 1: always be getting done right.
- 28:26Speaker 2: You feel that you feel people staying you. I know
- 28:28Speaker 2: when girl, Yes, yes, I thought you said staying.
- 28:31Speaker 3: No, staying you like when something had because I don't
- 28:33Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Disney stuff, because sometimes they
- 28:35Speaker 3: do that with certain child actors and child stars. But
- 28:38Speaker 3: I think it's just because we feel that you really
- 28:40Speaker 3: care about your work. So when anything else happens, like
- 28:43Speaker 3: when the scissor the Shannon Sharp question about Sciss BBL
- 28:46Speaker 3: and it. Sissa commented the world was there was it
- 28:49Speaker 3: was a staying thing. It was like, this was not
- 28:51Speaker 3: for Coco. And then Sissy came out and said, no,
- 28:52Speaker 3: why would that be a Coco Jones question?
- 28:54Speaker 2: I love Scissa. I was like, I was really caught
- 28:57Speaker 2: off guard by that.
- 28:57Speaker 5: But no, I do feel the energy and people tell
- 29:00Speaker 5: me all the time, like when I see them, they're like,
- 29:02Speaker 5: we're so proud of you, like we're rude of You're
- 29:03Speaker 5: on my thank you.
- 29:05Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you.
- 29:06Speaker 5: I don't really know how to feel because for such
- 29:08Speaker 5: a long time I was like, you and your brain
- 29:10Speaker 5: are likeybody, nobody cares.
- 29:13Speaker 2: And then to see trust me, it was giving Desert Island.
- 29:16Speaker 3: It's because you had hides and lows. That's what I
- 29:18Speaker 3: was talking about earlier, because when you when you when
- 29:20Speaker 3: the low hit, you were out the way, you weren't
- 29:22Speaker 3: doing much anything, and you had to come out the internet.
- 29:26Speaker 2: That's real about this what I literally, yeah, she had
- 29:29Speaker 2: to go online and talk. I did a whole video
- 29:31Speaker 2: about this.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Yes, okay, people who know people.
- 29:37Speaker 3: It was No, it's because I'm locked into your journey
- 29:40Speaker 3: and I appreciated your journey because you talked about, Yo,
- 29:43Speaker 3: this is what's really happening right now, even I don't
- 29:45Speaker 3: want to tell y'all. And that's why I think we
- 29:48Speaker 3: like lock in with you because we can identify the
- 29:50Speaker 3: ups and downs and it's real and you got to
- 29:52Speaker 3: fight to come back, and when you come back, it's
- 29:53Speaker 3: always good music facts.
- 29:55Speaker 2: And I do appreciate that. I really really do.
- 29:57Speaker 5: I do feel the love and I want to like
- 29:59Speaker 5: give some think good in return for the people who care,
- 30:02Speaker 5: you know, and support me.
- 30:03Speaker 2: I'm trying.
- 30:03Speaker 5: I want to give something good. So I'm glad that,
- 30:06Speaker 5: like y'all know that I really really care about my
- 30:08Speaker 5: stuff real.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I'm trying to make stuff at last.
- 30:12Speaker 5: But yeah, I love what I do and I would
- 30:14Speaker 5: I would do it all again, even though it was
- 30:16Speaker 5: so uncomfortable at that point, for this payoff and for
- 30:19Speaker 5: also to inspire the next girl, like take it easy
- 30:22Speaker 5: on yourself, have some grace.
- 30:24Speaker 2: It don't mean it's you. Sometimes they just don't know.
- 30:27Speaker 2: You know, what point did you get to that point
- 30:29Speaker 2: where you was like, yo, bro, I'm doing everything I
- 30:31Speaker 2: can do. Mmm.
- 30:33Speaker 5: I feel like that's always kind of where I was at.
- 30:35Speaker 5: I couldn't stop doing like what I loved because it
- 30:38Speaker 5: was still so important to me. But I think when
- 30:42Speaker 5: I told what.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I did that video about everything that happened, I was like,
- 30:46Speaker 2: this might be the last thing I ever do, so
- 30:49Speaker 2: I'm just keep it real.
- 30:50Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna go after this, but yeah,
- 30:53Speaker 5: I feel like that was always my truth, Like I'm
- 30:55Speaker 5: giving it everything I got, so I can live with that.
- 30:57Speaker 1: And it's just life and life. If you really believe
- 30:59Speaker 1: in God, you got to respect the process real period.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Because I don't even believe in so called good or bad.
- 31:04Speaker 1: I just believe everything is part of one long process.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Whatever I'm going through, this is what God wants me
- 31:08Speaker 1: to go through.
- 31:09Speaker 5: I completely agree with that, and I think there's a
- 31:11Speaker 5: certain amount of faith too that like if you know
- 31:14Speaker 5: it's on the way, how would you move?
- 31:16Speaker 2: And so sometimes I.
- 31:17Speaker 5: Would post that cover, delete the app because I knew
- 31:20Speaker 5: the engagement was so low.
- 31:21Speaker 2: But if it was on the way, how would I move?
- 31:24Speaker 5: I will still do this. I would still put my
- 31:25Speaker 5: voice out there. I would still write songs, I would
- 31:27Speaker 5: still do videos. I will still do it. You know,
- 31:29Speaker 5: I'll still go to auditions. If I knew it was
- 31:31Speaker 5: on the way. Me and my best friend will talking
- 31:32Speaker 5: about this all the time because we were both going
- 31:33Speaker 5: through it at the same time.
- 31:34Speaker 2: We actually met on set.
- 31:35Speaker 5: Me and my best friend, we've been on the Disney
- 31:37Speaker 5: Channel show when we were like fourteen. So who's your
- 31:40Speaker 5: best friend, Jalen. Her name is Jayleen Barry. She's an
- 31:42Speaker 5: amazing actress. To check her out period.
- 31:44Speaker 2: She's on a lot of shows and she does her
- 31:45Speaker 2: big one. Oh, I know, that's pretty best friend. I
- 31:48Speaker 2: would never do my best friend like that because she
- 31:49Speaker 2: a clown. Are we getting the season four? A bella
- 32:06Speaker 2: or you can't talk about that? I can talk about it.
- 32:08Speaker 5: We're doing the season four. Actually, while I'm on tour,
- 32:11Speaker 5: I'll be filming some of it. I'm gonna come back
- 32:13Speaker 5: to do my episodes, but it'll be the fourth and
- 32:15Speaker 5: final season. But I think it's good that we know
- 32:18Speaker 5: it'll be the final season, so we can do everything
- 32:19Speaker 5: with like the intention of like, okay, let's put a
- 32:22Speaker 5: bowl on it.
- 32:23Speaker 2: And I'm really excited.
- 32:24Speaker 5: I think we've done something great that we you know,
- 32:26Speaker 5: it's a blessing to keep people's attention for more than
- 32:29Speaker 5: a one season, more than one episode.
- 32:32Speaker 2: So I'm proud of what.
- 32:33Speaker 5: We've done, and I hope it inspires more black TV
- 32:36Speaker 5: shows you know that represent us and show networks like
- 32:39Speaker 5: this is profitable.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Keep it up. I'm happy for us.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Are you happy?
- 32:43Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, I am happy. You got to make sure
- 32:48Speaker 2: one last time.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Are you happy?
- 32:53Speaker 5: First of all, I know you have good intentions, so
- 32:54Speaker 5: I'm not even always at all anything you've asked me.
- 32:57Speaker 5: You've seen a lot, you know a lot, and I
- 33:00Speaker 5: appreciate you, know, you speaking up and saying these things,
- 33:02Speaker 5: So I'm not mad at them, but I am.
- 33:04Speaker 2: I'm very happy.
- 33:06Speaker 5: I am impersonal in business, It'll all be what it
- 33:09Speaker 5: needs to be. That's what I've learned. I was doing
- 33:11Speaker 5: all that stressing for years trying to figure out how
- 33:14Speaker 5: it was going to happen.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Waste of time. It happened in a way I could
- 33:17Speaker 2: have never even planned. So I have learned. And I
- 33:20Speaker 2: told God, I was like, I'm never gonna do you
- 33:21Speaker 2: like that again. I'm so sorry because I was like, yeah,
- 33:25Speaker 2: I'll be talking to him like like my friend, I'm like,
- 33:27Speaker 2: what what was that? Because you know it?
- 33:29Speaker 5: And I don't do nothing crazy, so what's going on?
- 33:32Speaker 5: But yeah, everything happens the way it needs to. So
- 33:34Speaker 5: to me, I'm like, it's above me quite literally.
- 33:38Speaker 3: That evil man that used to date that was trying
- 33:41Speaker 3: to remember the guy you talked about in the video
- 33:42Speaker 3: that was financing the videos and then stopped him. Mel,
- 33:48Speaker 3: has he ever tried to reach back out to you, like,
- 33:49Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm so sorry I was I was wrong,
- 33:51Speaker 3: like since you talked to my man.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Not on my pology stuff, but really he'd be emailing
- 33:56Speaker 2: my mama.
- 33:56Speaker 3: And didn't even apologize. Let me tell you, this man
- 33:59Speaker 3: tried to ruin my girl. I don't like ugly because
- 34:03Speaker 3: look at you now that taste video is cinema.
- 34:05Speaker 2: And he's mad. My buddy emailed that video.
- 34:08Speaker 3: So he was helping her and that time when she
- 34:10Speaker 3: was building everything back up and he was financing the videos,
- 34:12Speaker 3: and then he got upset because men are just men
- 34:15Speaker 3: and there wasn't gonna help her no more and try
- 34:17Speaker 3: to ruin her because of that.
- 34:19Speaker 2: It was basically it was like a toxic little relationship
- 34:22Speaker 2: where like I do this for you, you do this
- 34:24Speaker 2: for me. If you don't do that, then I don't
- 34:26Speaker 2: do that. It was like.
- 34:28Speaker 5: Very much, yeah, very much, but I mean at the time,
- 34:30Speaker 5: I was like twenty, I didn't know what was going
- 34:33Speaker 5: on at all and in life, you know, so but yeah,
- 34:36Speaker 5: I think that was a really important lesson because I
- 34:39Speaker 5: was like, I'll never let somebody have that much power
- 34:41Speaker 5: over me, and it's just too much power to give
- 34:44Speaker 5: the one person.
- 34:45Speaker 2: But you know, I'm literally like.
- 34:47Speaker 5: Imagine me going from like literally homeschool doing Disney stuff
- 34:50Speaker 5: to like actually living at all.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Like it was like what I was.
- 34:55Speaker 5: So I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful that nobody was
- 34:58Speaker 5: watching me because I was I was out.
- 35:00Speaker 4: But it takes things like that for you to get
- 35:02Speaker 4: to places like this though, because I was about to
- 35:05Speaker 4: ask you, like, do you regret that? But it's like
- 35:07Speaker 4: you can't because that was a step in the journey,
- 35:09Speaker 4: you know, for you to get where you're at now,
- 35:11Speaker 4: or you get where you are now.
- 35:13Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, is your mother emailing back because
- 35:19Speaker 2: please love yourself? Yes, but no, I'm not bad at all.
- 35:23Speaker 5: Actually that led to me meeting my therapist, who I love,
- 35:26Speaker 5: I love, I love I love something like everything everything.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Works out love that having a great therapist is important, Yes,
- 35:31Speaker 1: Coco Jones, why not? More is available everywhere you get
- 35:34Speaker 1: your music. Now do you want people to buy it?
- 35:35Speaker 1: Screaming I don't even know how to.
- 35:37Speaker 2: I want people to buy you. I'm sorry, but if
- 35:39Speaker 2: you go to you need to buy that because look
- 35:41Speaker 2: the album equivalent. You know what you know, Just buy it.
- 35:47Speaker 2: I love a stream. Go ahead and stream if you're
- 35:49Speaker 2: going to stream. But if you want to do anything by.
- 35:50Speaker 4: You, much continued success, Coco, Thank you, I appreciate you
- 35:56Speaker 4: can get the tickets for that tour on May six,
- 35:59Speaker 4: Thank you?
- 36:00Speaker 2: Period.
- 36:00Speaker 1: What do you get to the website?
- 36:02Speaker 2: You can go on the real Coco Jones dot com
- 36:03Speaker 2: and get my ticket.
- 36:04Speaker 1: All right, this Coco Jones, The Breakfast Club. Wake that
- 36:08Speaker 1: ass up here in the morning. The Breakfast Club