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A.I. EP. 241: “And Now I Am Become Death. Destroyer of Worlds” - Oppenheimer Best Picture Winner · The Avid Indoorsmen

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The sun is shining, night cloud in the sky. We wouldn't know because
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we're so happy inside. Some people on some skis, but we would rather
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sit on down and talk some movies. We're the evid Indoorsmen. Come listen
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to our show. We're the evident indoorsmen at home around the goal, We're
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the evidendorsmen. We hope you love it, so come on in and stay.
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We'll do our best to make you smile. Indoors man, what is
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happening? I'm Rob Blundquist Boots, and we are the avid Indoorsman. Hello
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everyone, Hello, Hello, how are you, sir? I haven't seen
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you in forever. Oh my goodness, I'm doing so well. I'm back
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from vacation. I want to hear so much about this. You are bronze.
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I'm just so white still. But I didn't get burned, not a
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single time on this vacation in Costa Rica. Did I get burned? Nicely
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done? We did. We lost a lot of sunscreen though, a lot
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of soldiers went down to protect me, that's for sure. Dude. Tell
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me all about it. You were there for like a week and a half,
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right, yeah, we were there ten days. It was awesome.
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I can't remember what I've talked about on here or not, but we had
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a foreign exchange student when I was a kid whose name was Adri and she's
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like been our sister ever since, and we've you know, kept in touch
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and hung out and we finally went down to Costa Rica and hung out with
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her and her husband, Alex, and it was awesome. I went with
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my brother sister in law and then their two kiddos and myself and it was
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it was divine, buddy, it was super super fun. They took us
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on like a tour of half the country, so we got to see like
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everything, which was so cool. Yeah, they drove us like it was.
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It was awesome. We didn't know did you have a standout spot that
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you went to? Man, I'll tell you what. They have this.
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I don't know if you guys ever did it, but the Blue River.
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I think it's Tenorio National Park Jungle and there's this river. You know,
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they have volcanoes all over the place. Something about the chemistry of the volcano
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water stream and then a different stream when they meet, they make this like
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milky blue water that's just so beautiful and cool. So we saw a huge
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waterfall with that, and then we actually went tubing down a big river.
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It was like we went like five kilometers or something tubing and there was like
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some rapids and things and it was awesome. So it was just like super
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beautiful. That's like thirty miles, right, That's that's really far. No,
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five kilometers, there's that's kidding. No, I don't know what a
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kilometer is, but I was kidding with thirty mins. I'm just kidding.
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Five k is three point one miles. That's what I know for sure.
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There we go, There we go because of all the running that I clearly
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do, so you know. But yeah, we just had an awesome time.
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I ate so much good food and just hung out. My Spanish was
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like, I mean, not good, but surprisingly conversational. So that felt
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really fun because I that's super cool. You know. I've just been like
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doing the duo lingo thing. I haven't really been like learning. You've been
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doing that pretty intensely for the last couple of years. Though. Yeah.
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I think I met like seven hundred and eighty days straight or something, So
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yeah, I guess some of it. I guess kicked in, which was
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fun. I mean, like I said, there was plenty. I didn't
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know how to communicate, but sure I did, okay, Like ordering in
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restaurants and stuff like that was all pretty easy. So that's kind of cool.
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I don't know, it's felt fun to try, you know, stretch
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your brain in a different way. But yeah, the trip was super awesome.
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The only the only downside to it was I caught either a virus or
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food poisoning or something my last day there. So it made for an adventurous
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but minimal pyrotechnics that involved anyone else. So we're good, We're good.
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Yucky, Yeah, not great. That part sucked that I've never really had
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that before, like been been sick. It's been a long in a foreign
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place, so it yeah, you know, it's just it's just not ideal
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anywhere, just food poisoning in general. I haven't had that. Yeah,
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I mean I feel like I had it one time when I was living by
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myself and I had to miss the John Mayer concert and that's like, yeah,
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one of the few times that I can remember really having same. And
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I eat some real questionable stuff, so like I'm always surprised, you know.
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Yeah, it's weird, but yeah, I don't know, man,
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So that was the only that was the only downside, and really it worked
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out the best it could and it's just part of the deal. That's so
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cool, man. I'm glad you're finally back. I was very excited to
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hear I know what did I miss about you? And you're it's a ton
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man. Yeah, I mean both the kids got sick again, so that
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was right on schedule. Schedule. Yeah. Yeah, So I've been taking
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my dog for a walk the last week, which has been She's been very
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very happy about that. I bet I got to pick up uh pretty much
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too garbage bags full of dog poop in the backyard. But I didn't have
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to wait until May this time, so it was like, really was an
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accumulation, right, Like Penny didn't have an issue one day or anything,
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right, Yes, because there's no snow on the ground. It is the
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weirdest easy thing ever, I will admit to. It felt nice to come
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home to like fifty degree temperature after nineties and everything. I was like,
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oh, that's okay, I'm okay with this. I love this. Yeah
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really so yeah, but yeah, nice dude, Well that's that's very cool.
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You've had a little staycation. I love it. I did. Yeah,
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I've just been chilling. Did you watch any movies while you were on
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your travels? I did. But first I'd like to tell you about a
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movie I saw in the theater last night. I finally caught Dune too,
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because you know, I left the day that it came out in the States.
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Here, you have you seen it? I feel like you have.
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This is absolutely what I was going to talk about as well. Yes,
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fantastic, Well we can we can double team this. I thought this was
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fantastic, Like this movie so so good. I really liked Part one as
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well, and this just, I don't know, just kept bringing it as
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far as I was concerned. If anything, it was like bigger somehow,
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which seems impossible to me. And yeah, I just I thought Denis just
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killed it, Like this is the perfect way to tell this story, and
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it's a story that I think is super hard to tell. I think they
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did a great job. I think all the actors were phenomenal, Like the
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world that they built is so lush and cool. And I don't know,
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I just I was in love with him, man. I just had a
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great time. I went with Dave last night, who had already seen it,
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but he was like, I'll see that again, And I was like,
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well, no, wonder you'll see that again. That movie's sick,
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you know, just like that's a movie, damn, you know. Like
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I loved it. The sound, the soundscape that they made, everything from
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the desert to everything else, and just man, they even made some changes
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from the book that really worked for me in a huge way because he's I
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don't think this is whither. His sister is actually born in the second half
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of the book, and in this she was in utero, And it worked
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better because it would have been weird if she was born, because she's supposed
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to be like four years old, but a full fledged adult because of how
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things have happened. So she's supposed to be like this wise adult in a
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child's body, and that would have been strange. Yeah, but yeah,
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I loved it, man, I don't what did you think of it?
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I thought it was a fantasty dude, Yeah, me away, So I
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rewatched the first Dune and then in preparation, and then that night I went
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with our buddy Timmy over to Woodbury at the Alamo Draft House. Oh perfect,
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A thought to see it. Love that. It was perfect. It
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was super late. It was like nine thirty, didn't get home till one,
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and it was like a school night. Look at you guys, So
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that was crazy old you know, guys just coming out of retirement for one
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last ntch. It was fun. I hadn't seen a movie with Timmy,
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I bet honestly, I can't remember the last time. Serious. Yeah,
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I'm so glad that you guys did that. That's cool. It was really
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really fun. I'm blown away by Timothy Shallowy that he's just this real,
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skinny little dude and he can totally pull off this bad ass roll. Yeah,
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and it looked like he was at least doing part of the stunts and
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stuff, was doing a good job. But yeah, he's awesome. Man.
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The cast is so stacked. Everyone is so great, cinematography, visual
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effects nuts. It's almost three hours. I was completely locked in the whole
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time. Same Timmy, however, was nodding a couple time. I did
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see that, which was really funny. I get it he doesn't though,
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that's the thing. Not really No, But I enjoyed this one more than
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the last one. Felt it felt more complete. I feel like that like
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table setting a lot right time. They had to create and they didn't tell
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us that before hands, and I was kind of pissed, actually, But
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if they didn't end up making a third one, I'd be okay, because
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this one did feel like a complete movie. Yes, they definitely leave it
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to where we could get a third one, which would be icing on the
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cake. But there's a lot of story left, a lot of weird story
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left, right, And I've heard that, so I'm like, I don't
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know, this is so good. I think he'll make another one, though,
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because the next one is Dune Messiah, and I think he's even been
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quoted as saying, like Denny m referencing has been quoted as saying, like,
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that's the movie he wants to make. Is that one? Because it's
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like very intriguy and like there's cool stuff happening. So I could see that
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happening. It was so so good. I was like texting people like,
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hey, did you see Dune two yet, like trying to not be like
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I just saw the best movie ever. I didn't want to like throw everybody's
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expectations way up, but I was so stoked after leaving that theater. I
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should say I would totally see it again if we ever do an episode on
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it Riley once in because he texted me and was like have you seen it
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yet, and was like, I want to do it if you ever do
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dude. It's so absolutely what When I looked just the other day, it
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was number eleven on IMDb top two fifty, Like everybody is love really Wow,
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that's pretty wild. That's super fun man, that's great. Yeah,
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I really liked it a lot. Nice stream stuff stream streaming, I have.
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We finally finished the second season of Reservation Dogs. Oh and it was
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wonderful. There's another pretty wonderful season following the lives of these teenagers on a
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reservation in Oklahoma. They got some more fun guests stars to come in this
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season. We had Megan Malalley, Bobby Lee, Mark Marin was in it
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as well. Yeah, yeah, right right. They were all great.
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Man. It has such a fun vibe, doesn't take itself too seriously,
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but it also touches on some serious subjects and gets emotional as well. Yeah,
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but yeah, we really enjoyed it. We'll be starting up the third
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season, which I heard is its final season as well. I know you've
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already finished it, but yeah, you guys a love it. It's really
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great and it ends on such a fantastic note. It's really well done.
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Yeah. I really liked how they finished up the second season two, So
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yeah, it's a great show. It just makes you feel good. Yeah,
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those characters are really fun. I liked them and way more than I
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thought I would when it started, that's for sure. Yeah, which is
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a sign of a good show, I feel like, you know. And
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one of the episodes, Lily Gladstone, who was in Oscar favorite to win
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Best Actress, but then Emma Stone went and won, which I thought was
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going to happen. But yeah a lot of people were surprised by that.
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But Lily Gladstone's episode was great. Yeah. Yeah, that's just so talented.
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Yeah, so fun. That's cool, man, love it? What
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about you? Streaming? So I did watch on the plane. I was
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able to see a movie I've been meaning to see and this it ends up
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being a Chalomet kind of episode for me because I watched Wonka. Oh yeah,
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and man, what an enchanting film this was. I really liked it.
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Now, perhaps I was colored by I watched it on the way to
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vacation, so I was freeing easy. Baby couldn't have been in a better
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mood. But I really liked it. I thought it was a fun a
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fun story that you know, like, touches enough on the old school story.
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It's a prequel, but it touches enough on that stuff to keep you
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interested. But it was unique enough and unique of a story enough that I
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really liked it. And I thought he was super duper charming as Wonka.
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I really liked him a lot in this super fun songs in there and dances
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and I was just quirky and weird and fun. I had a great time
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watching it. I thought it was super super cool. I saw it streaming
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now, so I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely watch it. Yeah, I think
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it's worth checking out for sure. I don't know if the kiddos if it'd
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be too scared. Everything that I've read is that it might be a little
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too scary. I could see it more like a teen. But but yeah,
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I think I think you'll really enjoy it. I had a very nice
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time watching it, and the cast is really fun. There's some great people
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in it. So yeah, yeah, well very cool. Yeah. Should
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some good movies to choose from, sure crazy. I had a really
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hard time ranking them, for sure, because I was like, I don't
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know. I love this, I love this. I don't what to do,
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so it'll be fun. It'll be fun to chop that up for sure.
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Also fun will be the coming attraction. We have Ten Things I Hate
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About You next, which twenty five years, so excited for. I can't
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believe that. That's crazy, but when you look at it, you'll feel
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like you believe at least twenty five. Yes, that's funny. Okay,
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since I rewatched this one, so I'm saying I saw it yesterday and I
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love it. It really. It took me right back and it had been
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a minute. That's so fun. I can't wait to watch it. It's
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going to be great. So yeah, stay tuned for that. But we're
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here today to talk about a movie that's not very old at all, but
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it did just win Best Picture. We're here to talk about Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer.
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It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. Before we get into
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Oppenheimer, were you actually able to watch the Oscars? Not even a lick
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of it, not even a minute. No, I was in transit home,
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so I've seen a few of the speeches. I keep like meaning to
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see more of the speeches. But nah, just not even a lick.
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I heard that I lost this what you lost? You definitely lost. I
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lost hard, which I was like, the effort I put into guessing that
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probably about right. And you know your heart, yeah, yeah, really
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went with your heart. I did with Emma Stone and that worked well for
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me. After I left that theater, I was like, I don't understand
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how anybody's even up for this award. Dude, she was transcendent in that
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role, that role, it was. That movie is messed up. I
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get that, but she's so good in it. That was the best performance
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by anyone this year. I think, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
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I think she blew me away. It was the best oscars I've seen
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in a long time. Really that I missed it fantastic. There were so
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many good bits throughout the whole thing that, yeah, everybody was like not
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taking themselves too seriously. I did see the one between Emily Blunt and Ryan
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Gosling or Ryan Goslap sorry the Goose where he was just like this has to
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stop, right, Yeah, just so good. They're so funny together.
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They were talking about the Barbie and Oppenheimer. Yeah, going back and forth
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and She's like, well, it actually wasn't much of anything the competition,
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so we've really been raking in the awards. It's so funny, so many
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good bits. Did you see the John Cena bit. The only thing I
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saw was he was apparently like nearly nude. It looked like he was completely
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naked and hiding behind the ballot or the envelope. Rather. No, I
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didn't see the bit. I just saw like a picture, like a backstage
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picture or something. So it's a whole thing. It was fifty years was
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the anniversary of the last streaker. It happened fifty years ago, and they're
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talking about and they're like then Jimmy Kimmel was like, come on, John,
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you got to do this. He's like, no, I don't want
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to do this. Uh. He ends up coming out with the envelope over
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his jag, which is hilarious. But his first words are costumes are great,
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Like we need costumes. It's just like it was so that's really good.
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So he was presenting very important that that's brilliant. I love it was
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made me laugh so hard. Yeah, there were a couple of times where
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I laughed so hard, just like that. You've seen like gifts, but
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that dog from anatomy of the fall. So at one point they panned the
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dog who was in the audience and somebody had put dog pads to make him
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look like he was clapping. And wasn't it after like an award or something
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like? It was because I saw the clip of it and then someone was
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like in the comments, was like, am I are these edibles hitting really
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hard? Or was there you know in that pan shot? That's so funny?
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There were so many And then if you have not seen Ryan Gosling doing
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I'm just ken. Yeah, if you look at our X page, I
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reposted the things I had the full performance because that was one of the best
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Oscar moments I can remember. Yeah, that's really so much fun. Must
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like tearing her dress, singing along with him or something. I think,
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yeah, she she went up and was like, oh my my dress is
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broken. You couldn't really tell. She really back right, Like it wasn't
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that you all? Yeah, no, a big deal. It was great.
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You missed out, I know. Yeah, yeah, I would have
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rather watched it than I'm sure than be sick and I'll have to come up
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with another movie for you to watch. Yeah, I got a one meat
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too, Nick Post who's also a patron he he tied with me. Oh
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nice, and another patron of ours, Kyle Anderson. I believe the three
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of us are seventeen. Yeah, dang, y'all killed it pretty good?
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What did I get? Good? Two? Noel, you got nine?
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Oh that's that's not good. It's not bad. Yes, but anyway,
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one of the I thought it was kind of a gimme a lock. Really
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was Oppenheimer for Best Picture? Yeah, I'm with you man, and yeah
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it came through. Well, what do you think? Should we get right
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into it? Should we? Yes? Do you want to start us off
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with the rough synopsis? I will yes. During World War Two, Lieutenant
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General Leslie Groves Junior appoints physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer to work on the top
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secret Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer and a team of scientists spend years developing and designing
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the atomic bomb. Their work comes to fruition on July sixteenth, nineteen forty
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five, as they witness the world's first nuclear explosion, forever changing the course
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of history. Nice, nice, let's hear what, Rotten Tobatto says.
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Critics have it coming in at a pretty decent ninety three ninety three pretty okay,
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pretty okay, an audience member is just a scoch below that at ninety
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one percent, that's you know what else people are looking for. But okay,
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no, I mean it's it is three hours long and it's heavy,
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right, so it's not like heavy fun, but that's still just critically,
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it's just I'm surprised it's only ninety three. Yeah, that is interesting,
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and ninety three is a great score, but I'm still like, who is
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who is saying? Yeah, what are we talking about? Yeah? Yeah,
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anyway, I'm with you. Well, let's get into what we think.
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It's time for our hot take hot take. Ooh, that's a hot
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take. That's a hot take. Ouch vision and fusion then both they talked
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about both. I don't know what you want. I can never remember which
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one's which. I'll go first on this one. I think this movie is
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a traumph. I think it's I think it's really really fantastic and wonderful.
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Uh. The rewatch had me liking it even more than the first time I
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saw it, which is crazy. I mean I liked it the first time,
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but this time I was just like, damn, like this is this
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is nuts, you know what's going on? A weird movie experience. We
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saw it together weekend, that's right. Why was it weird? Though?
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It was so loud. It was just so loud. And what's a thousand
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degrees in there too? Remember right, I don't remember that, but I
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definitely remember it being uncomfortably loud. You had your your ear plus and it
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was still too loud. I remember I almost pooped myself during the explosion scene
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because I felt my heart flutter like a lot. You're right, that was
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crazy loud. But the like the cast in this is absolutely insane. It's
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so crazy. Everyone is so good, everyone's great. The thing on the
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rewatch that really got me was like how unyielding and constant the sound underneath this
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movie was like they really use that to ratchet it up the whole time.
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I felt like like nearly every second of this is scored, which is really
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cool. And it was an interesting score. It almost sounded like SYNTHI in
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places, you know, like it was disjointed in places. It was really
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really cool, super effective. I mean, I'm sure you'll talk about it.
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All The shots are just incredible. It's so well shot. It's so
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fun and the part that I not that I didn't remember, but the part
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that I really appreciated the second watch the was it's a fun little like political
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thriller sewn in there as well, and not even little like it's a political
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thriller in there, and it's it's great, like the storytelling part of that
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I was super into on the second time, even more than the first.
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I just thought it was really interesting. It's such it's obviously just like this
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super wild time in history where we were, like, we're worried about fascism
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and the Nazis, but we're also worried about like socialism and the Kammi's and
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you know, all these things the Germans and the Russians obviously in there as
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well, and just like you know, serve your country, but also it
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might not do the same intern for you and McCarthyism, you know, kind
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of painting the whole thing as well. I just loved it. I think
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this movie is fantastic. I don't well, we'll find out during the draft.
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I don't know if it's my favorite Nolan Millan or Nolan film for me,
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but it's not mine for sure. It's so good though, Like it's
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it's so beautifully done, and yeah, I just think it's amazing. So
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yeah, I guess that is my my nuclear hot take. So nuclear,
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Yeah, we did it, we did it. But yeah, I don't
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I don't have anything like negative to say or any really hot takes, honestly.
26:15
Yeah, so I get that. Oh I do have one. Actually
26:21
in the scene with Florence Pugh and the bathtub, we get one shot of
26:26
there being a hand in there, which sort of insinuates that it's like,
26:30
was somebody killed her? Yeah? Was this like espionage? Like what's going
26:33
on? But we never see it at is that? Was that the whole
26:37
intent of that, It was just to see like one one like they're definitely
26:42
throwing that out as a possibility for sure, conspiracy theory e about it,
26:48
and yeah, I mean it's makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it
26:52
was like she seemed like a dangerous person. But I don't think the first
26:56
time, I don't think any or I don't remember it. But the secon
27:00
I was like, yeah, that felt a little little Oliver stony of him.
27:07
Yeah, a little bit, just like I'm just gonna throw the question
27:11
out there. You guys figure out what you think, you know, But
27:12
totally I guess that's the as close as I get to a hot take.
27:17
That's a good that's a good one, that's better than Noney of mine.
27:19
Yeah, I thought this was a masterpiece. Christopher Nolan got his first Best
27:25
Director Oscar for this film and deservedly so agreed. It was nominated for thirteen
27:30
Oscars, won a total of seven. Those were for Editing, Original Score,
27:37
Cinematography, Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, Best Director, and Best
27:41
Picture. Damn, there's some heavy ones. It was a It was a
27:45
big time favorite to win Best Picture, one of the most secure locks for
27:48
Best Picture that I can remember. I think I voted for it. So
27:53
yeah. There were some amazing films last year too, so I mean it
27:57
was it was pretty intense competition. I thought, I can't believe that it
28:03
didn't win Best Sound. To your point, there was either score or some
28:11
sort of sound happening throughout the entire film, and when there wasn't any,
28:18
it was so effective and creepy and crazy. It just took it to another
28:26
level and made it so much more intense. Now, the Zone of Interest
28:30
did win for Best Sound, and it did also do some really crazy stuff
28:34
with sound. Nice, but I don't even think it was close to Oppenheimer.
28:40
I'm shocked that. I'm sure at some point they're like, we can't
28:42
give it everything right, yeah, or something. I'm sure, but but
28:48
yeah, Nolan went and got a crazy talented cast, even for the smaller
28:52
roles. I really thought that he was going to have a Best Actor winner,
28:56
Ronnie Mallik, just be a non speaking cameo for a while, just
29:00
to like sleps, Like like what dude, I can get Best Actor winners
29:04
to just show up and not say anything in my movies. And I thought
29:11
that was pretty great. He ended up having a pivotal scene which was so
29:15
wonderful hoit. Van Houtsman did some amazing shots. The cinematography and this was
29:19
beautiful. As you said, the three hour score, which the amount of
29:25
music that Ludwig Gorenson had to do was just insane. I mean, that's
29:30
a huge project, unbelievable. I bet that took so long, Yeah for
29:36
sure. And yeah, it was definitely a long film, which which tends
29:41
to happen with the biopics putting too much of their life in there. But
29:45
I would be hard pressed to find scenes that should be cut in this.
29:48
I kind of agree. I sort of think it had to be this length
29:52
and it didn't feel crazy long. It didn't he didn't start. Yeah,
29:57
we didn't start when he was like a kid it or anything, you know,
30:00
Like we started while he was still figuring out, you know, quantum
30:07
physics and all that, so he was already well into his and the education
30:12
really helped with pacing. I thought of like, agreed, that was really
30:15
effective. I thought, yeah, I like that same nice. So,
30:19
yeah, it wasn't my favorite movie of the year, but I agree that
30:26
it's contribution to film and to cinema was bigger than any other film from this
30:33
year, and I thought that's fair was absolutely best picture this year. Yeah.
30:37
Nice, hot take Buddy hot tanks man, I love I love it.
30:41
Should we go into our favorite acting performance? Yes, let's take the
30:47
dude. I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you know
30:52
that, or his dudeness or duder or you know, el dudo reno.
30:57
If you're not into the whole brevity, you want to go first, Sure,
31:02
I'll go first. Why not? Okay, I'm gonna pick the Best
31:07
Actor winner, Killian Murphy is Jay Robert Oppenheimer. That seems fair. It
31:11
was pretty easy. He really had to carry this film, a three hour
31:17
film, and we always knew Killian was awesome. He's great, and everything
31:21
he's in those crazy piercing blue eyes did just show us so much of what
31:26
he's thinking without not even having any dialogue. You can just look in there
31:30
you're like, oh that okay, you're freaking out right now, Okay,
31:36
big time. But he had to play a complicated guy who was brilliant and
31:41
he knew it so pretty arrogant, very ambitious, was loyal to this cause
31:49
and then also pretty unfaithful to his biggest supporter, his wife. Very loyal
31:55
to for sure. Yes, but it was a lot. He had to
32:00
do a lot. It was a heavy role. And yeah, man,
32:06
I thought he was incredible. He became the first Irish born actor to win
32:09
Best Actor. That's super cool. I'm surprised cool by that. Actually that
32:13
seems Yeah. I mean I can't think of a ton of the top of
32:16
my head, aside from Ferrell, who will probably win one at some point
32:21
too. But but yeah, I thought he was brilliant in this. Yeah,
32:25
I mean basically same. I just think I don't know who else could
32:31
have done this in the same way, because he just has that haunting way
32:35
about him as well. And he he shows being like internally stressed like you
32:42
said so well, like that reads through so well, and he needed so
32:45
much of that, but he also needed to be charming, like you said,
32:49
with the ladies and with people, and you had to believe him.
32:52
And yeah, I think he's just stupendous in this. Yeah. I struggle
32:57
to think who else could have done it, which is pretty thing to think.
33:00
Yeah, I'm sure people could have, but like people could have.
33:04
But he also looked like him like pretty fun, which is you know,
33:08
weird. I've only seen black and white photos of him, so I don't
33:10
know if like he's got those crazy blue eyes, but oh that's true.
33:14
Yeah, I don't know that part either. But he's also so skinny,
33:16
which is apparently was an Roppenheimer thing too, Like he's he was just very
33:22
gaunt. In fact, I think I read he was like five eleven and
33:27
during the Manhattan Project got down to like one hundred and twenty pounds or something
33:30
like that. Wow, wow, which is just tiny. Yeah, that
33:35
was like third grade for me. Oh I wish in my bra thank you
33:46
for that's that'll be our Yeah, right, we got it. But yeah,
33:52
I just I think he's amazing. I don't know, I guess can't
33:57
belabored anymore than that, I suppose. But how about the Tucci Award though,
34:00
Buddy, what do you think I think you should go first for this
34:07
man? Well, there's only nine million people in this there's a lot to
34:10
choose from. I guess I'll say Robert Downey Jr. Because he won an
34:14
Oscar for sure, which is pretty great, and he was also the favorite.
34:20
Yeah, yeah, he's fantastic in this film. I thought he did
34:22
a great job being like despicable, you know, but also like you could
34:29
tell he was very smart but then also knew when he was beat and all
34:32
that stuff. I just thought he was awesome in this and in a way
34:37
I wasn't expecting for sure the first time I watched it, for sure,
34:40
But I just think he's so good. He's so good, just love it.
34:46
And I've never seen him do anything like this. Yeah, he's usually
34:50
so cool. Yes, agreed, made like I hope you pick weird parts
34:57
like this every once in a while, you know, like because you can
34:59
do what ever right. But it was fun you could he it was fun
35:05
to watch him react and be offended but playoff that he's not. He felt
35:13
like he was really good at that, like they're but also like what the
35:16
hell are they saying? You know, So like he when he first meets
35:21
Killian and he's talking about like, oh, you're just a lowly shoe salesman,
35:24
and he like takes back, he's like shoes salesman, and he's like,
35:29
oh, he he's gonna hold onto that like that. But yeah,
35:34
I thought he did a really well, really good job at like being everybody's
35:37
best friend. But then you know, secretly holding onto this like serious grudge,
35:44
yea looking for some revenge. He's he played an older guy, which
35:49
I've I've never seen, but yeah, I saw somebody comment about this online.
35:54
I'm sorry, I don't remember who, but say that, you know,
36:00
Robert Tony Junior had to overcome his addictions, and he had to.
36:05
He had this huge comeback becoming Iron Man for like a decade. Yeah,
36:09
and then he needed another comeback from being in the biggest movies of the last
36:15
decade to do serious acting work, which is so weird. It's such an
36:21
interesting observation. But like he was even like I needed this more than they
36:27
needed me. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that comment was really interesting too.
36:30
It was like, oh, yeah, I guess I kind of get
36:32
where you're coming from though, right, I needed to be taken like seriously,
36:37
Yeah, I mean that's just so weird. Yeah, because you know,
36:42
he's probably made half a billion dollars from his movies, you know,
36:46
so successful, and yet he's still like there's still stuff I'd like to do.
36:50
You know. It's like, oh, okay, so it really just
36:53
you gotta love the process because you'll never be happy, right, you know,
36:58
not from that anyway. Right. Yeah, I thought that was that
37:00
was pretty interesting thing. Yeah, but yeah, he's obviously the two I'd
37:07
say runner up is tough. It's either between Emily Blunt and Matt Damon for
37:12
me, between as well, yeah, I'm with you, And they're also
37:15
the media roles. You know, Matt Damon probably had more screen time,
37:21
but I think I'm going to give it to Emily Blunt because it was another
37:25
really tough role. Yeah. She had a couple of really great scenes in
37:30
this. Her giving her testimony was especially great. She had to lose her
37:37
temper a couple of times, once when Oppenheimer was freaking out that Jean had
37:43
died and she told him, like, you better pull this together. I'm
37:45
not supposed to feel sorry for you right now, like figure it out.
37:51
But then also, you know, she was the one that's like, hey,
37:52
Straws behind everything. Why are you not seeing that he's behind everything?
38:00
Yes, and yeah it was. It was a really fun role. Yeah.
38:05
I thought she was awesome. I'm with you. And but hard,
38:07
like you said, because she has to kind of get like trampled on a
38:13
little bit, you know too, like and obviously it doesn't look like a
38:16
great mom, you know, like that's hard. They just gave their kid
38:22
away. Yeah, yeah, it's wild. That was nuts, Yeah,
38:28
pretty pretty wild stuff. But yeah, yeah, I don't know that's crazy.
38:35
But yeah, Matt Damon though, like you said, there's a runner
38:38
up amazing. I thought it was really fun to see him in this and
38:44
sort of a different role again, kind of like he just got to kind
38:47
of act. He didn't have to like carry the whole thing, which was
38:50
kind of fun, you know, you know, aside from like the Ocean's
38:54
films probably right, So I just thought that was kind of neat to just
38:58
see him. I don't know, like, and apparently there's I think I
39:01
wrote it down. But there was some trivia that he was like on a
39:05
break from acting, like he sort of had promised his wife, like I'll
39:08
take a break, we'll hang out. It'll be great. But the one
39:10
coveyat was unless Nolan were to call, and then he did like, well,
39:17
I'm gonna go do this part right, like okay. I was the
39:22
only reason I wouldn't throw him the award is because of the one super melodramatic
39:29
line of the you know the scientist exactly, And we saw it in all
39:37
the previews and I was just like, why are we showing this, like
39:38
this is like it is interesting. I don't think it's bad. I just
39:45
think it's it does seem melodramatic. I'm with you. It seemed melodramatic.
39:47
And it was by far the biggest thing in the movie. It wasn't in
39:54
the biggest spot. Yeah, so it felt out of place. Yeah,
40:00
but yeah, I could buy that. I could buy that. I kind
40:02
of liked it, but I get it. Sure, Oh I thought it
40:07
was funny. Yeah yeah, right, but it felt it felt like too
40:09
much. I was surprised by it, like that we should have taken a
40:12
different take or something where he was like twenty less maybe right, yeah,
40:17
but it was fun. Yeah. Shout out as well to Jason Clark,
40:21
who is like the Cross Examiner guy. That guy can do everything. Man,
40:25
man, he's good. He's a good I like him a lot,
40:30
and he was just a just a douchebag in this. He was just And
40:37
then additional shout out, Well, there's a million others, but I really
40:42
liked Alden Aaron rec Yeah. Yeah, I thought he did really well and
40:49
maybe be like boy, I hope he gets more parts now, you know,
40:53
like you need to go side note, you need to go and watch
40:57
a movie called fair Play on Netflix. It's him and a woman and it's
41:04
it's good. It's really good. It came out last year rom com no
41:07
no, no, it's it's more dramatic fun. But he was really good
41:10
in that too. Nice, Okay, love it. Yeah. I was
41:13
surprised by him and I was just like, oh cool, he was great.
41:17
I thought that David Crumholtz was fantastic, so good in this, so
41:24
good. Yeah, I'm with you. It was really fun seeing him come
41:28
back and do that. And another guy, Minnesota's own Josh Hartnett, got
41:31
to shine also really good, right, yeah, I thought he was really
41:36
good. And one thing that I saw was that Josh Hartnett turned down Batman
41:42
back in the day. Really, and so this is the first time that
41:46
he's worked with Nolan since he tried out for Batman and turned it down.
41:53
Wow, isn't that crazy to think about? Yeah, that's weird to think
41:58
about. Yeah, God, imagine turning that down. Oh God, that's
42:05
insanity. I did really like him in this though. I thought he did
42:07
a good job. He was really good. It was fun. But dude,
42:12
everybody else, Kenneth Branna, I think he's been in almost all of
42:15
Nolan's films at this point, but him as Neil's boar was great. And
42:22
then seriously, I'll just name them. Florence Pugh, Matthew Modine, Dane
42:29
Dehan, Benny Saftie, Casey Affleck, Gary Oldman for a scene another best
42:35
Actor. He was so good in that scene. So good. All the
42:38
Powers of World War Two now on the Ronnie Mallick, Olivia Thurlby, Jack
42:47
Quade, Josh Peck, Tony Goldwyn, Jason Clarker you mentioned, and Alden
42:53
Aroon Reck as well. So I mean, it's insane, so crazy.
42:59
I also can't believe we're doing two Crumbholds movies in a row. That's crazy.
43:02
I know it's the season of crumb Holts. That's funny. Finally he's
43:07
getting his come up and so I love it. Finally, and we've done
43:10
the Santa Claus. What else do we have to We have to do Life
43:15
with Mikey. Do you remember that? Oh? God, no, I
43:17
don't. Okay, the Hell's Life with Mikey. It was a Michael J.
43:22
Fox movie when I was a kid. I'm him kid actors and David
43:25
Crumholts fun. He stole the whole movie so great. I love him,
43:31
but he was great. I really liked it. He was in this movie.
43:35
He was really really good. With all of those huge names, he
43:37
was a standout. Yeah, it was fun. I love that. Nice.
43:42
Well that's well, let's that's everyone. Let's let's go and talk about
43:46
our favorite scene, and let's pick the dingus dings is quite simple, really,
43:53
Dingus dingus. I can talk about my dingas all night long. You
43:58
what do you think you want to go first? You want me to go
44:00
first? You go first? Go first? I feel like first, it's
44:05
between two for me. But I think I think it's the bleacher scene after
44:12
they found out that the bombings a kernel. It so Killian Murphy is going
44:20
to make a speech to everyone who helped with the project, and it starts
44:23
off by hearing the stomping of the bleachers, and we had they had shown
44:30
images of the stomping and the sound of the stomping during one of the meetings
44:36
that they're having. That's right, because he could tell it was leading to
44:39
oh, yeah, this is going to happen, which I just thought was
44:44
so effective. He starts his speech and we're seeing like the in the background
44:51
behind him, the images are kind of vibrating, yes, and then shots
44:57
of the crowd applauding, but then there's silence. Yeah, that was another
45:02
time when the silence was really effective. It was so effective, and you
45:07
can see there's just so much acting going on because he's like having to pump
45:14
up this crowd. Yes, but he's also like in his head like we
45:20
just killed yeah, like I'm responsible for so many deaths, and he's so
45:24
proud, but also like what have I done? You know, Like and
45:29
like you can like hear him breathing, but you don't see any you don't
45:34
hear any of the applause. We see the one gal too that has like
45:37
the skins of radiation the stuff going on, but and they also had that
45:45
like bright light so probably you know, yeah right, yes, but yeah,
45:52
just all around the filmmaking in that scene, great acting, the sound,
46:00
the cinematography and editing. Everything that they did in that was I might
46:05
say that that's my favorite scene. I love that. That's great. What
46:09
about you? I picked the lead up and and the explosion like the Test
46:17
two. I know that's it feels like a cop out almost because it is
46:22
like the climax of the movie almost, but it was so great, Like
46:27
the lead up is so crazy, all these people that we've now like met
46:31
and know and have worked so hard on this, and just like that like
46:36
non zero chance that everything will explode, and you know, like all the
46:40
things, but like the frenzy of it leading up to it, the music
46:46
beforehand. He's like, yes, I don't know for sure, I promise
46:52
you know, like all that stuff. And then just like we said,
46:55
the silence and then not only do we see everything, but then like the
47:01
shockwave comes, which I thought was very like very storytellery, right, because
47:07
that also is what happened to Oppenheimer the same thing you're saying, right,
47:10
Like, I almost years is an extension as well of it, Like it's
47:15
the shockwave after of like what the hell did we do? You know,
47:19
and like what does this mean for the world and all that. I just
47:22
think it's amazing and then that quote in the middle of it and now I
47:25
am become death destroyer of worlds like just chef's kiss stuff. Like, I
47:30
just loved it. It was so so, so good, so wild,
47:37
and the biggest thing that Josh Peck I mean, he got to be the
47:42
guy pressing the button. Yeah, he was also good. I was very
47:45
happy for him. I liked him in that role. I was like,
47:47
let's this guy too much? But it was it was intense, like you
47:51
have the shaky hand, and I totally bought him, you know. Yeah,
47:54
I liked it a lot. Yeah, that was funny to see him
47:58
and be like what wa Yeah, you're getting the old scene right, Yeah,
48:06
it's I don't know that scene. Man, it's just crazy to me.
48:09
It's so good. It's so good. But I love the scene you
48:13
said as well. So yeah, I think I think we could do a
48:15
duel three hour movie. We're good. Yep. For sure. There were
48:21
some runner ups too. Rommy Malick scene his testimony, Yes, I love
48:29
that. Good, love that because you kind of don't see it. You
48:31
know, they've alluded to the fact that Rommy Malick was like his character was
48:36
mad that because the two times we see Rommy Malick Killian Murphy is very dismissive
48:43
of him. He doesn't even like acknowledge him. Yes, so we felt
48:47
like, okay, he his you know, he's not gonna help Oppenheimer and
48:55
so yeah, then they throw the curve and he yah destroys Love Straws chances
49:05
of becoming Was he trying to be cabinet He was in the catway out secretary
49:10
of Commerce. I think it is what he said because he was like,
49:14
this is commerce. I'm not even involved in something like that. But yeah,
49:16
in the cabinet for sure. Right, but yeah, that's crazy.
49:21
That was a great scene. Gregary Oldman scene was also great. Yes,
49:25
yeah, whatever you know that back in here, whatever you say, he
49:30
shout him down hard. He's like, you think they care about who made
49:34
it, I don't care about you get out here, you know. Yeah,
49:37
Yeah, I love that scene. I also love it's not the most
49:40
bombastic scene in it, but where Emily Blunt gets to like fire back in
49:46
the testimony scene, I thought that was fantastic. And we see it like
49:51
we think she's scared and you know, like whatever, but then she's just
49:55
she's just parying back at this guy without issue. And I loved that.
50:00
I thought that whole scene was so good and was his lawyer guy is so
50:04
good too. I don't remember that dude's name. Yeah, it actually was
50:07
good. We didn't know. I've never seen him before me neither, I
50:09
don't think, but he was really good. And when he like when he's
50:15
finally like, oh, we're screwed, like basically and goes and sits with
50:19
Opperrenheimer, I thought that was so great. Like it was he's like,
50:22
this is the only way I can support you now, basically like we're screwed.
50:27
Yeah, I just loved that. I thought it was so cool.
50:29
There was another scene where Killian was testifying and the same thing that happened in
50:35
the bleacher scene starts happening, Yeah, right with the vibrating background and the
50:40
light. Was that also the one where he was like naked? And then
50:45
there was the Florence Peace. Wasn't that scene Okay, that was later.
50:49
That was kind of that was the way they shot it, even though I
50:51
was like, that's kind of weird, but you definite knew what they were
50:54
going for. Yeah, totally. That's how vulnerable he felt, yes,
51:00
which I enjoyed that, but it was also like just just a lot.
51:05
Yeah, it was weird and creepy, and I've was like, this is
51:08
a lot for Florence Peugh. I hope she's good. Yeah, I know,
51:13
right, like I hope, I hope you feel okay all this And
51:19
the last one I wanted to talk about was just finally seeing what he and
51:22
Einstein said to each other. Yes, I loved that. I thought that
51:25
was such a great way to end it, and to like put a button
51:30
on everything and just well because they built that up so much really effectively.
51:35
Straws was was so offended by this moment. Yeah, that's the whole reason
51:39
why any of this happened, was because he thought that Oppenheimer put Einstein against
51:46
him somehow. Yeah, and I love is it Aaron rech that it was
51:51
like he was like, maybe they were talking about anything, but you at
51:54
all, maybe it was something actually important, much more important, right,
52:00
And it was Yeah, which was Einstein was also incredible, and that was
52:05
that guy's name is Tom Kanti, who I think was a bigger actor back
52:09
in the day. I saw he was also a Best Actor nominee. Wow.
52:15
So yeah, he was phenomenal and also looked a ton like Einstein.
52:20
I thought, you know, it looked really great and was also they both
52:25
shared that sort of like weight of the world on their shoulders, right,
52:30
Yeah, they both expressed that really well, I thought, which was fun.
52:34
Yeah, Kenneth Brown's character did that well, yes too, Yeah,
52:38
yeah, totally. All of his scenes were good. Man, that guy
52:42
is so good. He's I mean, he's just a force to be reckoned
52:45
with. He's just so crazy good. Yeah, he's always good and everything.
52:50
I love that. Yeah. Man, there are a lot of really
52:53
strong scenes in this. It was hard to pair him down. I thought,
52:57
Yeah, but but I agree, let's do the old things for the
53:00
two we picked. I love that boom. Well, then let's do some
53:02
of these quotes show me started off buddy, Yeah, I really liked probably
53:15
because the music thing. But Algebras, like sheet music, the important thing
53:20
isn't if you can read it, it's if you can hear it. Can
53:22
you hear the music, Robert and I just thought that was really beautifully stated,
53:28
like, that's so cool. Liked that. We said the lowly show
53:32
shoe salesman one. I really liked that one too. And now I am
53:39
become death destroyer of worlds? Is just I mean, that's a crazy cool
53:45
line. Yeah, that's what this is going to be titled. Oh I
53:49
love that. Nice, nice, very moody for us. I like it.
53:55
Oh yeah. My husband offered both our fewtre just to stop one fascist
54:01
bullet from inventing itself into a mud bank. That's the definition of nothing.
54:07
And I was like, okay, damn, okay, yeah, damn,
54:10
that's crazy. Right. Uh, why do you say a few before I
54:15
take them all? I had quite a few, yeah, Oppenheimer says Albert.
54:20
When I came to you with those calculations, we thought we might start
54:22
a chain reaction that would destroy the entire world. Yes, and so it
54:25
says I remember it, well, what of it? What of it?
54:29
And Oppenheimer says, I believe we did? That? Was that was the
54:32
scene? Yes, and at left Einstein like we did. Yeah. I
54:42
loved that. Just starting off the movie with the caption Prometheus stole fire from
54:45
the gods and gave it to man. For this, he was chained to
54:49
a rock and tortured for eternity. So cool, and movie is in the
54:54
book it's based on. It's called like Oppenheimer, the Prometheuss of Today or
55:00
something right or American American Prometheus. Yeah, so that's just extra cool.
55:05
I thought, m hm, straws He says, amateurs seek the sun,
55:10
get eaten. Power stays in the shadows. Yes, very politician thing to
55:17
say, Oppenheimer. They won't fear it until they understand it, and they
55:23
won't understand it until they've used it. Theory will take you only so far
55:30
that when Grove says, are you saying that there's a chance that when we
55:34
push that button we destroy the world? The chances are near zero, near
55:37
zero. What do you want from theory alone? Zero would be nice?
55:42
Yeah? I thought that was a very Matt Damon line reading. I loved
55:45
it. Zero would be nice. Yes, I loved that. Einstein says,
55:52
when they've punished you enough, they'll serve you salmon and potato salad,
55:55
make speeches, give you a metal, and pat you in the back,
55:58
telling all is forgiven. Just remember it won't be for you, it would
56:01
be for them. Yeah. And then and she doesn't shake his hand and
56:07
all that stuff. That was so great, Dude, that was cool.
56:09
I love that one hit a lot harder this second time. Agreed, same
56:15
same man, There's so many more. But oh and then he says,
56:22
and Robert, try not to blow up the world. That was after that.
56:27
But I also loved his line, Robert, we've given them an ace.
56:30
It's for them to play the hand. Yeah. I did think.
56:31
Yeah, super super good good lines man, good lines. I have a
56:37
couple more. Uh, tell Rose to go tat. You're a scientist,
56:42
so be yourself, but better. I just I love that, like he
56:45
needed to hear that in that moment. That was cool. Uh is it
56:51
big enough to end the war? To end all war? I thought that
56:54
was really cool the way they said that it wasn't. Yeah. Also when
57:02
they're discussing the bombing and it's like, I've taken Kyoto off the list due
57:07
to its cultural significance to the Japanese people. Plus my wife and I honeymooned
57:12
there, and I was just like, God, humans are the worst,
57:15
and that he's a big actor. That's James remark. His name stupendous too,
57:21
Like that dude is so so good. Yeah. But then the one
57:25
that you said earlier that you think anyone in Hiroshima or Nagasaki give who dropped
57:30
the bomb. They care who made the bomb, they care who dropped it.
57:35
I did. Hiroshima isn't about you. It's just like whoa, Okay,
57:39
don't let that cry here. Yeah, so, which is apparently a
57:43
real thing that was said by the president. It's crazy, but yeah,
57:50
intense. Also, Oppenheimer couldn't run a Hamburger stand. I couldn't, but
57:55
I can't run the manh end project. Yeah. I like that. Deah.
58:00
I thought that was great. And the way he like laughed at that,
58:02
I just thought was like, that's why you're good, because you are
58:06
like humble enough to be like, yeah, bro, I couldn't do that,
58:09
but this like this I can do, you know, Like, yeah,
58:13
I got this right. Yeah, I love that. Kenneth brown I
58:17
had a line and it was from the trailer. He says, you are
58:20
the man who gave them the power to destroy themselves, and the world is
58:23
not prepared. Yeah, intense, intense. I also like Josh Hartnett had
58:30
one. He played somebody named Ernest Lawrence was his name, but Appenheimer says,
58:36
why why would they care what I do? It's like, because you're
58:38
not just self important, you're actually important. Yeah. I loved that line.
58:43
Yeah you're a big deal dude, Like, if you quit screwing around,
58:46
I could get you in on this project, you know. Yeah,
58:50
yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. And the last one I had
58:53
was just Kitty Emily Blunt saying you think because you let them tarn feather that
59:00
the world will forgive you. Yes, oh, and we should say we
59:05
alluded to it earlier, but we should say the one she says where she's
59:07
like, you don't get to God, what is the thing? I thought?
59:12
I wrote it down, Yeah, you know, make us feel sorry
59:19
for you or something. Yeah, you don't get to commit the sins and
59:22
then have us feel sorry for you when you deal with the consequences. And
59:25
I was like, damn, that's hard. That line is hard. I
59:29
like it. And also when he was like, you know, only adolescents
59:36
claim to know what someone else's relationships are, don't you know, don't do
59:40
that. You're an adult as Army and her, we've been through hell together,
59:44
you know, And then she shows up. We're grown ups. Yeah,
59:46
we're grown ups. Yeah. I thought that was really Yeah, they
59:50
have such an interesting relationship. I love it. Yeah, because they didn't
59:53
you know, they didn't explicitly go into because he had another affair with someone.
59:59
Uh yeah, we don't even know if that was there, but like,
1:00:02
well it was right, No, we do know. He like he
1:00:07
was like, well, no, her husband, that's right. She was
1:00:08
like he never found out. Yeah he found that's right. I forgot about
1:00:13
that. Yeah, and you know she he was kind of doing the same
1:00:17
thing with her like he was doing when he met Kitty. He was doing
1:00:22
the moves for sure. Yeah. He ran the game for sure. Yeah.
1:00:27
But yeah, I think the ones I had, Ye, there was
1:00:30
a lot though, so for sure, Well that's going to be him moment,
1:00:37
the crying game. I had a hard time with this, dude.
1:00:39
Yeah, it was a struggle this one. I thought. I didn't cry
1:00:44
in this movie, any of the real emotional ones. I was more like
1:00:52
impressed with how they were acting. Sure, but I never felt like like,
1:01:00
especially that scene we just talked about where he's like freaking out that Jeane
1:01:04
had died. Yeah, and Emily Vanesa go and be like hey, we
1:01:07
don't feel like it was just intense. But I didn't feel sorry for him
1:01:12
because he was you know, so it didn't make me sad. I was
1:01:15
just like, wow, this is really good. So yeah, I put
1:01:19
zero. It was it was a it was two okay, But I kind
1:01:24
of felt the same as you did the whole time. The the I never
1:01:29
saw her again. Part of that did get me to cry, not so
1:01:34
much herb like saying her line and him breaking down, but just like the
1:01:38
it was before that, yeah, like he cut her off, but you
1:01:42
know, all those things. I just thought that was interesting. And then
1:01:45
I did during the the speech after the scene that you had said, the
1:01:52
bleacher scene, Yeah, specifically when it got like super eerie quiet and stuff,
1:01:55
that did get me, not like a lot, but enough for like
1:01:59
a two year or two you know. Yeah, I was just so it
1:02:02
was more just like though, just like, what the fuck? Yeah,
1:02:06
this scene is so well filmed and thought out into it. But then he
1:02:13
leaves the the bleacher, you know, the crowd, and you see one
1:02:16
of the scientists just throwing up outside. Yeah. Man, And I don't
1:02:22
know, like as far back as I can remember, the the dropping of
1:02:25
the bombs was always like a lot of people had to die for that,
1:02:29
Like that's scary. That freaks me out. I mean, yeah, I
1:02:32
think most people feel that way. But like, yeah, it's just yucky,
1:02:37
yucky, yucky yucky. But that was just too fame for three hour
1:02:43
movie. Yeah, I knew it couldn't be zero, but I had a
1:02:46
hard time picking up the times. I'm kind of with you though, Like
1:02:51
even the ones I had were not big boohoos at all. They were just
1:02:54
kind of like, yeah, it was there, but nothing crazy, so
1:03:00
Trivia. In order for the black and white filmed sections of the movie to
1:03:06
be shot in the same quality as the rest of the film, Kodak had
1:03:08
to produce a limited supply of its double X black and white film in seventy
1:03:14
milimeter. So I thought that was kind of cool. So they actually made
1:03:17
special film stock and it was chosen specifically for its heritage. It was originally
1:03:22
sold to photographers as super XX during World War Two and was popular with photojournalists
1:03:30
of the era. So that's kind of crazy cool. I love XX films.
1:03:34
That's great. Yeah, I prefer the third X. The Trinity detonation
1:03:37
scene uses a combination of practical effects in digital compositing. So apparently all the
1:03:45
explosions were practically practically done with a hybrid of gasoline, propane, aluminum and
1:03:51
then magnesium involving like big miniatures and stuff. They were filmed at high speeds
1:03:57
in multiple angles, and then they were digitally layered over each other to create
1:04:01
the mushroom cloud, which I because, man, I'd always heard that it
1:04:08
was. That's what I thought too of the facts, and I guess it
1:04:12
mostly is, but it is. There is some there's some shenanigans happening.
1:04:15
It was, man, so crazy, so crazy, so loud. I
1:04:23
said that Matt Damon was on the loved break thing. I think that's super
1:04:27
fun. We're on a break. We're on a break. It's fine.
1:04:30
Different things. So several scenes were shot on location at Princeton, and Tom
1:04:35
Kanti, who we talked about earlier, found it really very funny to walk
1:04:40
through Princeton and have people react to him dressed as Albert Einstein. So I
1:04:44
thought that was fun. The nerds were like what Early in the film,
1:04:50
when Oppenheimer's introduced, someone asked what the Jay stands for. Before he can
1:04:55
respond, James Darcy's character just snaps thing in reply, and the questions never
1:05:00
asked again. The jade does stand for Julius, according to and according to
1:05:06
the American Prometheus book that this is based on, he was named after his
1:05:11
father Julius, but always insisted that it stood for nothing because I guess they
1:05:15
had the kind of a tough relationship. But coincidentally, and I never knew
1:05:19
this, Harry S. Truman's middle name is simply S and it does not
1:05:24
stand for anything, which I think is crazy, so silly. Robert Downey
1:05:30
Junior said this is his favorite film he's ever been a part of, which
1:05:33
is pretty cool, impressive. I bet he's favorite film or the best film.
1:05:39
Uh it says it's his favorite film of his own and then well he
1:05:43
says both. He says this is the quote says this is the best film
1:05:46
I've ever been in. Yeah, because I've I've seen that, I've seen
1:05:49
him say that. I didn't know it was his favorite. Yeah, I
1:05:54
don't know. That's maybe they're putting the words in his mouth. I don't
1:05:58
know. Yeah. I thought it was cool that we got to see Enrico
1:06:00
Fermi arrive and watch the Trinity Test towards the end. Fermi is famous,
1:06:05
among other things, for the Fermi paradox, which is a thought experiment which
1:06:10
questions why humans have never observed evidence of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe,
1:06:15
and one of the possible reasons for this is that any sufficiently intelligent species may
1:06:20
inevitably wipe itself out through self destructive behavior, including the creation of nuclear weapons.
1:06:28
So I just thought that was interesting. They call it the Great Filter
1:06:30
Moment. But I've read a lot about the Fermi paradox, so I was
1:06:33
excited when he came into the movie. It was pretty fun. U uh
1:06:41
oh, I thought this was cool. The score that plays after Nil's bore
1:06:44
asks a young Oppenheimer if he can hear the music when discussing his comparison of
1:06:48
mathematics and music. So this little score was one hundred and seven seconds long.
1:06:55
It consisted of twenty one separate tempo changes, and took three days to
1:07:00
compose. Given its complexity, Gorenson wanted to record the score in segments,
1:07:05
but with some convincing from his wife and a series of specialized recording techniques,
1:07:11
the score was recorded in one continuous take. His wife he won tempo changes.
1:07:17
That's great, that's insane, his wife. He said in his speech
1:07:21
was the violinist, she must be a yeah. Okay, so she's some
1:07:26
badass musician too, so she was playing it. That's crazy. But yeah,
1:07:30
one hundred and seven seconds twenty one wild No Wonder sounded so crazy and
1:07:36
disjointed. I can barely do one time. I mean, I'll change it
1:07:41
a lot, but not on purpose of purpose, not a purpose. During
1:07:47
an interview with David Martin on CBS Sunday Morning, Christopher Nolan pointed out that
1:07:53
the entire reel of Imax film stock used for this production is eleven miles long
1:07:59
and ways six hundred pounds. Wow, so that's just crazy to think about.
1:08:04
Uh yeah, the hairy stream in line that don't ever bring that cry
1:08:10
baby back in here again was factual. Apparently he did say that and and
1:08:15
mockingly handed him a handkerchief, which is how they showed it in the film,
1:08:19
which is crazy. Let's see, I thought this was cool. The
1:08:24
scene that we picked for the duel dingis with the skin coming off of the
1:08:30
person's face. That's Christopher Nolan's daughter, Flora Nolan. Yeah, and he
1:08:34
just talked about he chose her because it felt more real to him, or
1:08:42
you know, things like that, and it was his way of expressing that.
1:08:45
It was it'll destroy the people who are near and dear to you,
1:08:48
and that's why he thought it conveyed that in the strongest terms to himself.
1:08:53
So he picked her. Wow. But yeah, I thought that was kind
1:08:56
of cool. Every would have known that. But there was so much more
1:09:00
trivia. But I just picked those because I got I don't know, I
1:09:04
got picked too many. I did pick three other ones as well. Perfect
1:09:11
j David Wargo, who studied physics at MIT, option the rights to American
1:09:15
Prometheus in twenty fifteen, but the project languished in development hell for years.
1:09:21
Wargo met with his old friend James Woods during the pandemic, and Wood set
1:09:27
up a meeting with Charles Roven, who in turn passed on the book to
1:09:30
Christopher Nolan. Wargo and Woods are credited executive producers. What helped Nolan decide
1:09:38
to direct the film was a book of J. Robert Oppenheimer's speeches given to
1:09:42
him by Robert Pattinson at the rap party of his previous film, Tenant Wild
1:09:47
Cool. So I think it was just kind of like everybody's yes, we're
1:09:51
going to do making me I should really do this. Yeah, and then
1:09:56
Pattinson wasn't even in it. The one person that was right interesting. Nolan
1:10:02
deliberately casts recognizable names in all the major roles to help the audience differentiate between
1:10:09
the characters. That's smart, helped, really smart. There's so many characters,
1:10:14
too, agreed, And the only other thing is the only fictional character
1:10:18
in the film is the one played by Alden Ehrenreich. Oh really, okay,
1:10:24
everybody else is a real person? Interesting? All right? I thought
1:10:28
that was neat. Let's go to Judgment Day. Will there be a sequel?
1:10:32
No? No, Oppenheimer's Revenge even more, Oppenheimer even more so.
1:10:46
Let's get Let's get hymerd I will say it's so funny because today I was
1:10:54
just on TikTok for a minute. There is a comedian named Lisa Gilroy.
1:10:59
I think she's like a maybe like an improv type person. But anyway,
1:11:03
she decided to put up her own thing and it was called Op and Homer
1:11:10
and she is playing Marge Simpson and she's like, oh me, you can't
1:11:16
make the bomb on the world. That's really funny, so hard, so
1:11:32
dumb man, that's really good. So we don't we don't need a sequel.
1:11:39
We have that. Yeah, yeah, what more? You can't get
1:11:45
better than that? So I threw it on X. I was like,
1:11:51
hey, can can you guys throw out the name of an actor or actress
1:11:57
with a large film acrap filmography get to get us. Let's uh, let's
1:12:01
say, oh I did I got? I got twenty eight responses. Y,
1:12:09
So let's let's go through him and our good friend Julie excuse me not
1:12:17
Julie Roberts, our good friend Kristin Denehey said Julia Roberts, which I don't
1:12:23
think we've done, which I kind of love. That's crazy, I don't
1:12:27
think so okay, okay, so I think we should hold onto that one
1:12:31
for sure. J Roberts Oppenheim. There, I don't even think we should
1:12:39
read anymore. Let's just go that. Let's just do it. Thank you,
1:12:42
Kristin Denney, You're wonderful and I miss you great. I haven't seen
1:12:47
her in so long, it's been a minute. We haven't needed to like
1:12:50
revamp our show for a while, so we haven't guess to consider it.
1:12:56
Agreed, agreed, agreed, So yeah, this is going to be a
1:13:00
last man, Stanton, if you guys have never heard this. Yeah,
1:13:06
so we are just going to name as many Julia Roberts films as we can,
1:13:13
and the person who can't come up with any more loses and we make
1:13:16
fun of them. It's usually me, no game, I'm good at this
1:13:25
one, which, yeah, then I feel like I do well on that
1:13:30
movie Grid Game, which I just love. If you guys have never heard
1:13:32
of moviegrid Dot, iow. So it's a good time waster. I haven't
1:13:39
played in a few days. I should get back into it. It's fun,
1:13:42
man, it is fun. And sometimes it's like, what the hell
1:13:46
I know? Yeah, there was one the other day where I just did
1:13:49
not have it at all, one of them. Yeah. So yeah,
1:13:55
let's start. Let's start throwing out some yes less four, Ocean's eleven,
1:14:03
Great, Ocean's twelve, Ocean's thirteen. Okay, we did that. The
1:14:10
Oceans movies are now done. Because I don't think she's said eight. I
1:14:15
don't either, So I will say pretty Woman, good one, good one.
1:14:25
I'll say hook hook very good. I will say Aaron Brokovich where she
1:14:31
won her Academy Award. That way, Okay, I don't know why I'm
1:14:39
thinking this one already. But notting Hill. Of course, I'm just a
1:14:50
girl in front of a boy. She's asking him to love her. That's
1:14:58
a great money. Let's do the sequel to uh, Pretty Woman, Let's
1:15:02
run Away Bride? Oh good one, now, Rob, Was she in
1:15:11
the Pelican brief for my totally? Yes? I thought, I don't remember.
1:15:17
All of a sudden, I got scared. I loved the Pelican Grisham.
1:15:23
Yeah, movies pretty fun because I read all those books. Yeah,
1:15:29
her in Denzel that was a great one. Let's do my best friend's wedding.
1:15:36
Damn it, it's a good one. I'll do Eat, pray,
1:15:44
Love. I was just gonna write that down. I'm trying to think of
1:15:48
the big ones. I got some deep Oh, I got yeah. I
1:15:54
know. That's the problem is the like, late eighties are my worst than
1:15:59
your best? And she's in so many Yep, she was in a lot
1:16:01
back then. Oh for late late eighties, nineties, you know, yep,
1:16:05
totally one late eighties one that I think was the first time Matt Damon
1:16:13
was in a movie, and one of her first movies was called Mystic Pizza.
1:16:16
Damn it. I was hoping you wouldn't remember that one because I see
1:16:20
that one recently, yesh, recently poops okay, okay, I feel like
1:16:28
they're probably a thousand more. There's quite a few. Yeah yeah about that
1:16:38
though. Quiet uh oh, I have some deep deep cuts. I love
1:16:51
Julia Roberts. I was born for this one. Oh my brain is oh,
1:17:00
bab, I think I'm out. I can't think of any Julia Roberts
1:17:04
movies have a lot. I have a lot of lots, So I'm gonna
1:17:10
go for some deep cuts. There was one with her and Nick Nolty called
1:17:15
I Love Trouble that I saw in the movie theater. Okay, way back
1:17:21
in the day. There was one with her and Mel Gibson called Conspiracy Theory,
1:17:26
which was really fun. I never heard of that. There was one
1:17:30
called Sleeping with the Enemy, which was scary. It was a threat one
1:17:35
okay, leave the world, but oh I didn't think of that, but
1:17:41
keep going. I had Closer, which was also just an unbelievable I've never
1:17:49
seen that, but that's come up a few times. That was her and
1:17:54
Clive Owen. Then she also did Duplicity with Clive Owen and Paul Jammatti.
1:18:00
There's Steel Magnolia's which was the one me hard. She was so great in
1:18:08
that too. There's a rom comedy one called Something to Talk About, which
1:18:13
nobody's heard of. For whatever reason, my family saw a lot. There's
1:18:18
a weird one where she got very gaunt and it was scary looking. And
1:18:23
Mary Riley is she she's in August County. I should have got that,
1:18:28
should have got that. She's in that Mona Lisa Smile movie. I just
1:18:32
watched that. Yeah. And then last one I thought of was the really
1:18:39
recent one with her and Clooney called Tickets to Paradise. Oh I never saw
1:18:44
that. Did you see it? No? I heard it wasn't good,
1:18:46
and I was like, okay, I won't watch it then, so I
1:18:48
had written all those down. Damn nice work, dude, Yeah, we
1:18:53
forgot wonder I never saw that Ben It's back is Oh the Mexican with Brad
1:19:00
Pitt, That one comes up everyone. I was trying to think of the
1:19:03
Clooney one, not the newest one, but it was money Monster and I
1:19:08
watched that. I actually kind of liked that too. Wouldn't have thought of
1:19:13
that one? No, no, no, no, uh love wedding marriage.
1:19:18
I don't know that Valentine's Day? Could I guess that was Charlie Wilson's
1:19:23
War, which I never saw. Charlie Wilson's War. I used that one
1:19:27
a lot for Emily Blunt. Yeah, movie Grid, that's a good one.
1:19:32
I never saw that one. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind she was in.
1:19:36
Yeah, Clooney directed, Yeah, the Mexican Larry Crown, the other
1:19:42
Tom Hanks one. Nice. Michael Collins. Isn't that also Clooney? I
1:19:49
don't know, No, that's Michael Clayton. Michael Collins. I think was
1:19:54
Nisan it is You're right, God, you're good and stuff. The player,
1:20:01
the player. Didn't you do one around that time? Called? Was
1:20:05
it full frontal ready to wear? Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, see
1:20:13
a full Yeah? Oh she was in a flat Liners. Oh yeah,
1:20:18
how about that? Okay, I like I kind of like that. I
1:20:21
saw that one really late, like really yeah, like five or six years
1:20:26
ago, like not way back in the day or No, I'm thinking of
1:20:29
I'm thinking of the other one. What's the Michael J. Fox one where
1:20:32
the people are dead freaky freak the ghosts one. Yeah, that's what I
1:20:39
was thinking of from The Frighteners. The Frighteners. Okay, that was why
1:20:43
flat Liners is different? I think that was Peter Jackson's first movie. Oh
1:20:47
yeah, that's right. I think, Yeah, that's funny. Miami Vice.
1:20:53
Oh no, that was an episode. Sorry, that was an episode.
1:20:57
Sorry, that's my fault. Got you, got you, sat Faction,
1:21:00
Firehouse. I don't know any of those, and you did great though.
1:21:03
That was all of them. Cool. I get to go first in
1:21:06
the Christopher Nolan draft, which I'm happy for. Damn it about Yeah,
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this game is dumb and I hate it. No, it's fun. Thank
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you for suggesting that. What's her hand on? Kristin at Kristin Denney?
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Oh lovely? How on the nose? I love it? Uh well,
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I guess that does it today, Paal, It sure does. Roppenheimer.
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We want to encourage you guys to if you want to hear the draft,
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go to patreon dot com slash the avvent Doorsman right now. If you want
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to stay tuned and see the movie. You know ahead of time we're going
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to do ten Things I Hate about You next, which will be so fun.
1:21:45
That's true, and I before we get done. Thanks to all the
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patrons who played along with the oscars for the grou Cheese. You guys,
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we were really good. You all did better than me, which you should
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be very proud of work. Not everybody not ever watched most We don't need
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to bring up the ones who did. I'm not going to bring up it.
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And I also want to thank Carolyn Schultz for not playing so that I
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did not get beat this year. Just TDD. Thank you Carolyn for taking
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Thank you for giving us a chance. Love that love that well, yeah,
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I guess that does it today for Oppenheimer, I'm Rob Quiz. Thank
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you so much for listening until we talk to you next time. Enjoyed Right,
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indoors, the sun is shining colom in the sky. We wouldn't know
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because we're so happy inside. Some people but we would rather sit on down
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and talk some movies. We're the avid indoorsmen. Come listen to our show.
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We're the avid indoors man at home, are on the go. We're
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the avid indoors. We hope you so come on in and stay. I
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will do our best to excuse my worthy o the indoors well