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Massive Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we
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Speaker 1: doing on this Fugazi Friday. I am John middlecof. This
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Speaker 1: is a three and Out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing
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Speaker 1: well out there in the real world, watching college basketball,
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Speaker 1: hanging out, working, whatever you do. Hopefully it's going well.
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Speaker 1: Have a smile on your face, positive attitude, try to
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Speaker 1: be positive. So I keep telling myself on a daily basis.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna do a big mail bag today on
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Speaker 1: this Fugazi Friday at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is
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Speaker 1: the Instagram firing those dms, like an hour long mailbag,
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Speaker 1: and you guys know the drill, firing those dms, Free agency,
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Speaker 1: slowing down, a lot of draft talk moving forward. The
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Speaker 1: owners meetings in a week, so I'll have a bunch
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Speaker 1: of stories. All the coaches talk, there are the owners talk,
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Speaker 1: so there'll be a lot going on out of that
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Speaker 1: event as well, which we applaud because we do not
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Speaker 1: turn down the content here in late March early April
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Speaker 1: before the draft. But you guys know the drill. If
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Speaker 1: never miss an episode. We obviously do one basically every
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Speaker 1: single day, so keeps you in tune and locked into
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Speaker 1: what we are doing. But before I dive into any
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Speaker 1: mailbag questions on this Fugazi Friday, I just watched Duke
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Speaker 1: almost lose, which I was heavily rooting for because I
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Speaker 1: have Kansas and Saint John's winning the whole thing. They
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Speaker 1: play each other potentially the next round, and then they
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Speaker 1: would play Duke in the Sweet sixteen, so it would
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Speaker 1: have been nice to have Duke out of there. But listen,
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Speaker 1: we saw some vulnerabilities. But my Fugazzi Friday is this,
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Speaker 1: It's the Bachelor and Bachelorette. According to my wife, that
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Speaker 1: brand that that television show is losing steam. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's been around for decades now, of course it is.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to stay relevant and stay cool and we
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Speaker 1: must watch in the in television to begin with, right,
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Speaker 1: and they I'm not proud to say this, but my
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Speaker 1: wife likes some stupid reality television and then I'll start
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Speaker 1: watch and say how stupid it is, and then I'll
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Speaker 1: end up watching it and just hate watch it. And
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Speaker 1: I did that with the Mormon Wives, which I probably watched,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, ten to fifteen episodes over the course
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Speaker 1: of a couple seasons, and I had enough. But I
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Speaker 1: had seen enough to know the main character and that
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Speaker 1: the show, you know, was really popular because it was
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Speaker 1: just gut a rat I mean, just awful reality television,
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Speaker 1: just disgusting. I mean, you're just watching this and you
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Speaker 1: feel like you just ate three double cheeseburgers from a
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Speaker 1: fast food restaurant. You're like, what am I doing? You know,
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Speaker 1: what did I do to myself? And they made I
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Speaker 1: would call her the main star of the Mormon Wives,
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Speaker 1: the Batslorette, and then a video came out of her
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Speaker 1: going berserk on her baby daddy, and then within a
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Speaker 1: couple hours they canceled. It's like, guys, hey, ABC, what
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Speaker 1: did you think was gonna happen? And it shows you
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Speaker 1: And this is a conversation. We talk about free agency,
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Speaker 1: we talk about doing deals in football. Don't make deals
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Speaker 1: out of desperation. And it's like they were trying to
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Speaker 1: be hip, they were trying to be cool, but most importantly,
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Speaker 1: they saw this hit television show and they thought they
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Speaker 1: could drive people. So let's call it what it is
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor and Bacherette's a little bit more of a
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Speaker 1: buttoned up operation than Mormon Wives for anyone, I think
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Speaker 1: you would agree if you have just watched an episode
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Speaker 1: of that show and they had to cancel the show,
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Speaker 1: Like could have seen that one coming from a mile away.
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Speaker 1: And you talk about these people man in ABC, CBS,
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Speaker 1: these television shows and these properties, they're dead. I mean
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Speaker 1: they are in major, major trouble. You see the ratings
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Speaker 1: for the Oscars have taken a precipitous drop. I mean,
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Speaker 1: one thing it shows you live television with sports is
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Speaker 1: really the thing keeping everyone humming, and this is a
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Speaker 1: good example of swinging for the fences and striking out.
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Speaker 1: So pretty embarrassing for ABC. But again, you get into
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Speaker 1: business with this person, how could you be shocked? Like
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Speaker 1: did you watch any of the episodes? Did you know
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Speaker 1: what you were doing? Not exactly? You know, Jesse Palmer, here,
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Speaker 1: let's dive right into the mailback and we will start
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Speaker 1: with we will start with Emma expanding our listener base.
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Speaker 1: Do you think the Chiefs need to add a wide
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Speaker 1: receiver in free agency? Feels like with Mahomes coming off
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Speaker 1: the injury, try to get him as much support as possible.
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Speaker 1: Second question, how is nil changing the draft? Feels like
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Speaker 1: last year everyone says this twenty sixth class would be better,
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Speaker 1: and now everyone is already saying the twenty seven seven
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Speaker 1: class will be better. Is nil leading to weaker draft classes?
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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs I said it when they signed
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, and depending on how they draft, I think
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Speaker 1: it's very possible they take offensive and defensive linemen really
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Speaker 1: really high, with you know multiple I mean they have
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Speaker 1: three picks, what they have a high second rounder, they
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Speaker 1: have multiple first rounders one picks. Nine would not shock
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Speaker 1: me at all if they went defensive lineman, playmaker and
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, because I think Andy's no dummy. He knows
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Speaker 1: you win in the trenches. You sign Kenneth Walker, you
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Speaker 1: bring Travis back. I think there is going to be
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Speaker 1: debate should they take the Oregon tight end. I would
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Speaker 1: have a hard time taking the Oregon tight end if
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Speaker 1: Bain or one of the big time pass rushers is there.
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Speaker 1: Especially offensive lineman too. I mean it's hard to get
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Speaker 1: premium offensive lineman. They got lucky last year with Simmons,
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Speaker 1: so I think you just I always lean the trenches
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Speaker 1: when all things are equal, especially when I got Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 1: You know, in Chris Jones is coming down the home stretch,
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Speaker 1: they need Karloft just to step up. I think Baine,
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Speaker 1: I think he's very much in the mix there at nine,
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Speaker 1: and then I could see them taking a wide receiver
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Speaker 1: with pick twenty nine for sure. The nil where it
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Speaker 1: really impacts the draft is not as much like if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be a top twenty, top thirty pick, though
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Speaker 1: those guys are coming out, like most guys that are
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Speaker 1: viewed as an elite prospect do not go back because
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Speaker 1: of an il. Maybe it'll happen with quarterbacks every once
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Speaker 1: in a while moving forward. But to me, like if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be a high pick, you come out where
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Speaker 1: I think it really impacts the drafts. Like the guy
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Speaker 1: that was a third rounder that was like a red
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Speaker 1: shirt junior, so he'd been in school for four years.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just coming out. I'll be picked sixty eight,
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Speaker 1: I'll be picked seventy four, I'll be picked fifty eight.
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Speaker 1: That guy gets a guaranteed seven figure contract from his
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Speaker 1: school and listen, being a star at Texas, at USC,
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Speaker 1: at Oregon, at Ohio State at these schools. It's probably
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Speaker 1: pretty incredible. Never done it, but I would imagine it's
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Speaker 1: pretty fun. So I think that's where it impacts the draft.
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Speaker 1: I think the second day and definitely the third day.
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Speaker 1: The depth of the draft a lot of I think
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Speaker 1: I saw a stat the amount of underclassmen over the
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Speaker 1: course of the last couple of years has dropped dramatically.
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Speaker 1: So that, to me, is the major impact on the
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Speaker 1: draft is the meat of it. Not necessarily the Baines,
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Speaker 1: the Bailey's. I mean those type players who are always
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Speaker 1: like if you could be the Saediq, the tight end,
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Speaker 1: any impact guy to me typically is still gonna come
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Speaker 1: out mail bag. You talked about owners paying coaches to
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Speaker 1: go away. Lafleur signed a contract extension, But if next
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Speaker 1: year or two go bad, could you see Green Bay
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Speaker 1: firing him? Still? I have a hard time seeing it
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Speaker 1: go bad. Like, to me, bad is kind of what
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Speaker 1: happened last year. They had some injuries, it kind of
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Speaker 1: got derailed and they went nine to seven on one
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Speaker 1: and lost in the first round. And that's what they've
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Speaker 1: done the last two years. They lose two years ago
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Speaker 1: to the Eagles. I just don't think you're getting fired.
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Speaker 1: I maybe if they had back to back years at
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Speaker 1: like five or six wins. I just have a hard
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Speaker 1: time like that's never really been their mo So my
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Speaker 1: guess is Matt Lafleur is there for the foreseeable future,
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Speaker 1: because I have a hard time seeing it go bad
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Speaker 1: now if it does. Sure, I mean, most coaches not
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Speaker 1: named like Andy Reid are pretty you know, the business
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Speaker 1: is fickle, like they would change on you fast. If
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Speaker 1: you told me the Packers went six and eleven this year,
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Speaker 1: I would say, yes, he would be on the hot
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Speaker 1: seat entering twenty twenty seven. Now it's a little different
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Speaker 1: because of the ownership, right, they don't necessarily have won.
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Speaker 1: The team president's kind of in control, so you Packer
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Speaker 1: fans know more about the variables there that are like
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Speaker 1: deep in the weeds. But I think he's got a
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Speaker 1: pretty strong runway moving forward. Scott from Philly living in Germany.
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Speaker 1: Why are the Eagles not jumping on Beckton? He helped
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Speaker 1: us in twenty four and missed him all last year.
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Speaker 1: Why not build that a line. It's a good question.
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Speaker 1: You know he's banged up before he was banged up
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Speaker 1: last year. Sometimes you just get lightning in a bottle
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Speaker 1: and it works. I'm not exactly sure. Sometimes when guys
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Speaker 1: aren't signed, they might be asking for more than I
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Speaker 1: think a fan or I'm guilty of this, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: just sign that guy for cheap. Well, it takes two
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Speaker 1: to tango, right. You can't dance by yourself. I mean
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Speaker 1: technically you can, but you need the guy. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll offer you an incentive le steel, not much guaranteed money,
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Speaker 1: but you could make up to ten million dollars. What
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Speaker 1: if he thinks like I want twelve million dollars, You know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's an element of a
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Speaker 1: lot of these guys that are on the market still,
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Speaker 1: these veteran, bigger name free agents, guys that have had
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Speaker 1: success because of their asking price and the agent. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna get leaked out. Well, it's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: teams are off I said this about Juwan Jennings yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, his agent's gonna put out like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we got some offers on the table, but two for
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars ain't gonna cut it. We want two
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Speaker 1: for twenty five million dollars. So I think that plays
10:18
Speaker 1: a part constantly in the NFL mail back question from
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Speaker 1: a Sacramento native the nine one six baby. I got
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Speaker 1: a kid on the way do in May. What was
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Speaker 1: your experience like driving to the hospital when she was
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Speaker 1: ready to deliver. Was it a rush and stressful or
10:37
Speaker 1: pretty chill? Well, we had because he was flipped around. Listen,
10:42
Speaker 1: you learn new things, like anytime that a guy without kids,
10:46
Speaker 1: you know, we don't quite understand everything that goes along
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Speaker 1: before the baby. When when we have the baby, I mean,
10:55
Speaker 1: they are women are so much more equipped with the
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Speaker 1: knowledge and understanding. They just have like a blueprint and
11:03
Speaker 1: they study it. It's like they treat it like a
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Speaker 1: football game. You know, it's like that. They are just
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Speaker 1: so well prepared before and after. But so the baby,
11:14
Speaker 1: when it's flipped around, it can't get out right feet first,
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Speaker 1: so you have to get a sea section. Now you
11:20
Speaker 1: can kind of wait to see if it flips around. Well,
11:22
Speaker 1: he wasn't flipping and we had to do a schedule
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Speaker 1: sea section, so we drove to the hospital. I'd say,
11:30
Speaker 1: I remember it like it was yesterday, But the last
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Speaker 1: nine weeks, I mean I don't yesterday. You know, nine
11:35
Speaker 1: weeks ago feels like seven years. You just kind of
11:38
Speaker 1: get in the car because you have a one thirty
11:39
Speaker 1: appointment and you're told to be there two hours before.
11:41
Speaker 1: So you hop in the car at eleven with a
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Speaker 1: bunch of your stuff, some snacks, some bags of cozy clothes,
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Speaker 1: and you just drive there. So's it's probably less of
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Speaker 1: a rush. I mean, you're very you're just kind of
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Speaker 1: trying to stay calm. But it's probably a different experience
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Speaker 1: when you know, if a water breaks and she's freaking
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Speaker 1: out and you're hauling ass. Like we just drove pretty
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Speaker 1: normally to the hospital, parked and walked in. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so it was that experience of everything I've seen on
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Speaker 1: the movies was not like that. So I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: if you're just having a normal birth and you don't
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Speaker 1: know when it's coming, and then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: I think it's coming. I didn't have that experience a
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Speaker 1: Bronco fan. Seems like the Eagles are maybe growing tired
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Speaker 1: of Jalen and clearly him and aj are not on
12:33
Speaker 1: the same page. Seems like maybe Burrow is not happy
12:36
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. What about a blockbuster trade? Burrow and Higgins
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Speaker 1: straight up for herbs for herts, And I said herbs
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Speaker 1: for Davonte Smith. My opinion, Philly gets better at quarterback
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Speaker 1: and worse at receiver, and Cincinnati gets better receiver and
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Speaker 1: worse at quarterback. Davante's Smith's pretty good. I think there's
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals Mike Brown. Every single Cincinnati fan would
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Speaker 1: hang up that phone, so that deal is not Howie
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Speaker 1: would drive those guys to the airport. But the Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: Bengals would never do that deal ever, So I think
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Speaker 1: if it ever gets weird enough, and I actually think,
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Speaker 1: what if Cincinnatis is good this year? What if they
13:18
Speaker 1: just win the division, which they easily could the Steelers
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Speaker 1: do as we stand here on March nineteenth, do not
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Speaker 1: have a quarterback. The Ravens got a lot of moving parts,
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Speaker 1: new coach, new staff. Obviously the Browns are the Browns.
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Speaker 1: But I think the Bengals, I said, I've been saying this,
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Speaker 1: if their defense comes together, kind of a live dog.
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Speaker 1: If Burrow can just stay on the field. What's up?
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Speaker 1: My brother and I love your show. On a visit
13:44
Speaker 1: to Greece, we went to a euro League basketball game
13:48
Speaker 1: between the number one team and the number two team,
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Speaker 1: which the Olympiacos won soundly. Back at our hotel. Dressed
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Speaker 1: in olympiaco's gear. We ran into the other team's head
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Speaker 1: coach and assistant in the elevator, and my brother couldn't
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Speaker 1: help but giggle. The assistant tore him a new one, saying,
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Speaker 1: you should respect the people. How else should we react?
14:12
Speaker 1: How else should we react in that situation? Shouldn't these
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Speaker 1: coaches be accountable for their pad tactics? Yeah, I don't
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Speaker 1: even know what to say. You're laughing at him and
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Speaker 1: he freaked out. You could just keep laughing. What's he
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Speaker 1: gonna do? Beat you up? So? I mean, listen, these
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Speaker 1: jobs are high stresses, people are on edge. That's pretty funny, though,
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Speaker 1: I just probably would have kept laughing. I mean, what's
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Speaker 1: he gonna do? Is he screaming at you? In English?
14:43
Speaker 1: I would imagine he is. I don't know, I mean,
14:46
Speaker 1: was it close to getting physical? Because if it is,
14:48
Speaker 1: then obviously you probably don't want to get a fight
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Speaker 1: with an elevator. Usually basketball coaches former players imagine decently
14:54
Speaker 1: sized guy. But at the same time, like, calm down, buddy,
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Speaker 1: calm down. So I don't know. I mean, you have
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Speaker 1: to describe a little more of the situation to know,
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Speaker 1: like you know what you're doing when you're gigging, when
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Speaker 1: you're laughing at the guy, and if you're like, what's
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Speaker 1: he supposed to do? Just take it on the chin.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what the guy does for a living.
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Speaker 1: So I understand the guy being pissed off if you
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Speaker 1: get embarrassed, But I'm with you, improve your tactics. That's
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Speaker 1: what you should have said, shouldn't you, guys, improve your tactics.
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Speaker 1: That would have been a good response, like, improve your tactics. Bro.
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Speaker 1: Why is a consensus that Wattle is better than DJ Moore?
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Speaker 1: More is more available and more productive. Wattle is faster. Yes,
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Speaker 1: DJ is the fifth most twenty yard receptions and top
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Speaker 1: five verse man. They are the same age basically. By
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Speaker 1: the way, DJ's twenty eight is about to be the
15:42
Speaker 1: same age as digs twenty seven when they got to Buffalo.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why everyone doesn't love the DJ Moore
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Speaker 1: move to Buffalo. I love it. I think it's a
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Speaker 1: no brainer. I think Waddle's a little bit more of
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Speaker 1: a versatile player. Like you said, quicker, they're looking for
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Speaker 1: a more explosive player, but DJ makes explosive plays, you know.
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Speaker 1: I just think his time in Chicago. I think he's
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Speaker 1: even said this. I don't know if he said this
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Speaker 1: on his bills press conference or a podcast like it
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Speaker 1: ran his course and it was over. But I love
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Speaker 1: the DJ Moore trade. And when you factor in the prices,
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Speaker 1: would I rather have DJ Moore for Pick sixty or
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Speaker 1: trade for who's also cheaper, or trade for Jalen Waddle
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Speaker 1: in his contract at the price which they had to
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Speaker 1: pay a one in a three, I would rather have
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Speaker 1: DJ Moore. Now, I think it's pretty clear that because
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Speaker 1: they could have had DJ Moore, they would rather do
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Speaker 1: the Wattle deal. Who knows, maybe they were in the
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Speaker 1: DJ Moore deal. I haven't read that. Maybe they want,
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Speaker 1: you know, a different type skill set because you can
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Speaker 1: put him in the backfield new but technically he could
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Speaker 1: do with DJ Moore too. I think DJ Moore pretty
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Speaker 1: visaile player. You know, his comp a couple of years
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Speaker 1: ago was like a more buttoned up because he's a
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Speaker 1: better route runner. Deebo Samuel, So I'm with you. I
16:54
Speaker 1: love the move. I listen. I don't know what everyone
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Speaker 1: else's reaction is, but my first reaction is I respect
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Speaker 1: the move and I think it'll help them out. It
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Speaker 1: was a lot to pay. It was a lot to pay.
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Speaker 1: They paid one point four million dollars for a million
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Speaker 1: dollar home, which, again, you live in the home, you
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Speaker 1: like the home, No big deal, but I think we
17:14
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge they they overpaid. Who else was bidding that? Who?
17:18
Speaker 1: Who are they bidding against? Mailback question? When you go
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Speaker 1: on the herd? Are there certain rules you have to
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Speaker 1: follow on how to facilitate the conversation? For example, knowing
17:30
Speaker 1: when to give your take and when it's okay to
17:33
Speaker 1: have a back and forth with Colin Curious comes across
17:36
Speaker 1: as very natural, but I'm sure there are guidelines you're
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Speaker 1: given to operate within. Right, No, I don't know. You
17:43
Speaker 1: just you talk when he throws it to you. And
17:47
Speaker 1: I've been working with him. The other thing is we've
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Speaker 1: been doing a podcast on Sunday night, I don't know
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Speaker 1: for five years now, maybe not that many years, but
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Speaker 1: definitely three or four four plus years, the Sunday Night podcast,
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Speaker 1: which is an hour plus it's just me and him
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Speaker 1: going back and forth. I've been listening to him for
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Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen plus years, so I got a
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Speaker 1: pretty good idea of his cadence. But there's no you
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Speaker 1: talk in you talk now, you don't talk now, you
18:13
Speaker 1: just talk now that when you do that role on
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Speaker 1: a show the news, it's like your turn to talk
18:20
Speaker 1: and then you just you kind of go back and forth.
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Speaker 1: But I got a pretty good idea of his cadence
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Speaker 1: and what he does. But they don't tell you, like
18:29
Speaker 1: talk now, John, you just go. I mean, I have
18:31
Speaker 1: a little ear piece in, but no one beside one
18:35
Speaker 1: time I didn't turn on my mic and they came on,
18:37
Speaker 1: turn on your mic, which was my fault. But yeah,
18:41
Speaker 1: I mean, no, you just it's kind of a feel thing. Again,
18:46
Speaker 1: like this is not even the first time I did it.
18:51
Speaker 1: It was my first rodeo doing that role on his show,
18:56
Speaker 1: but it was kind of a unique situation given that
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Speaker 1: I've worked with him for a long time on a
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Speaker 1: back and forth situation. The other thing is when you're
19:05
Speaker 1: doing that job, it's not like every segment. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of his rants. I don't do anything,
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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's pretty clear when I'm coming in
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Speaker 1: and then you just let the conversation go. But there's
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Speaker 1: not I don't know what else tell you, it's not
19:24
Speaker 1: really that scripted at all his show is. I mean,
19:30
Speaker 1: we get there, it's a great it's a long day
19:32
Speaker 1: that's over at noon. I mean my alarm last time
19:36
Speaker 1: I did it on a Friday, I was like, you know,
19:37
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19:39
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19:41
Speaker 1: couple hours. My alarm went off at four, and I
19:43
Speaker 1: gotta workout in So I got up at four, worked out,
19:47
Speaker 1: showered by like five point fifteen. Uber picks you up,
19:51
Speaker 1: drops you off at five fifty five, throw my shit
19:56
Speaker 1: in the dressing room, go upstairs at the meeting. And
19:59
Speaker 1: I walked in the room at six and he was
20:01
Speaker 1: already sitting there and start kind of going over what
20:04
Speaker 1: they're going to talk about, different stories, different things, and
20:07
Speaker 1: then he just kind of gets his I would say,
20:11
Speaker 1: direction of every topic and the takes and the angles,
20:15
Speaker 1: and then the mic comes on and he just kind
20:17
Speaker 1: of goes, I mean, it's the whole cruise there at
20:21
Speaker 1: six am, and yeah, just it's it's a grind. Prep
20:28
Speaker 1: go over the show till seven thirty to eight, depending
20:31
Speaker 1: on I mean, I've been their days where it goes
20:33
Speaker 1: to eight, been their days where the show's done by
20:36
Speaker 1: seven twenty am. And yeah, it is, like the cool
20:43
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20:47
Speaker 1: You have all these people like, hey, you want breakfast,
20:49
Speaker 1: you want lunch, you got a car driving year round.
20:53
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Speaker 1: Shit the bed. I'm a big Jim Harbot guy. I'm
23:24
Speaker 1: also justin Herbert guy. I've always loved it. Like the
23:27
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, I root for most of the West
23:29
Speaker 1: Coast teams like I want the Raiders to do well.
23:34
Speaker 1: Rams probably a little luke warmond though I respect the
23:38
Speaker 1: shit out of McVeigh, but I don't root for the Rams.
23:40
Speaker 1: Seattle big John Schneider guy. Now Cardinals don't root for them,
23:45
Speaker 1: but I don't even know. It doesn't even matter they stink.
23:49
Speaker 1: My question is this, I'm constantly having to defend myself
23:52
Speaker 1: about living in Arizona to my colleagues, strangers, family, and friends.
23:57
Speaker 1: Does this happen to you as well? In your circles?
23:59
Speaker 1: Do you brush it off? How I see it? We
24:01
Speaker 1: have three months of bad weather, but I'm golfing in
24:03
Speaker 1: the pool, camping up north, skiing, mountain biking, especially for
24:06
Speaker 1: young people. It's way easier to buy a home and
24:07
Speaker 1: live a good life. I've everyone I know is jealous
24:13
Speaker 1: because a lot of my friends are living in California.
24:15
Speaker 1: They are jealous. Some of them are stuck. I mean,
24:19
Speaker 1: my brother is a farmer. It's not like he can
24:21
Speaker 1: pick up the land and go somewhere else. I do not.
24:24
Speaker 1: Not only do I not defend, I brag about being here.
24:28
Speaker 1: My only take about Arizona is I wish I had
24:31
Speaker 1: moved here sooner. I don't mind the heat now, it
24:34
Speaker 1: does get hot. But when I see these people that
24:37
Speaker 1: live in freezing cold temperatures for three or four months
24:41
Speaker 1: and pray pay premiums and taxes, It's like, wait, I
24:44
Speaker 1: pay no taxes. I'm in a beautiful era area. The
24:47
Speaker 1: people vacation to that there's no crime. It's clean as shit.
24:54
Speaker 1: I can golf, I can. It's just it's incredible. I mean,
24:59
Speaker 1: this area is one of my favorite areas in the country,
25:02
Speaker 1: not even close. And I listen, I think I won
25:06
Speaker 1: when I moved here. I know that. And I've spent
25:10
Speaker 1: born and raised in the Sacramento area. That's eighteen years,
25:12
Speaker 1: went to college in the Central Coast, that's another five years.
25:15
Speaker 1: Lived in Fresno for a couple of years, then lived
25:17
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area for a decade. So I'm forty
25:20
Speaker 1: one years old. Thirty five six years of my life
25:26
Speaker 1: were in California. This is dramatically better. I mean, I
25:30
Speaker 1: couldn't even like when I go do the Fox thing.
25:34
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any amount of money you could
25:36
Speaker 1: make me move to southern California. Now, Newport Beach is badass,
25:41
Speaker 1: but I'm not paying that tax rate ever, so I
25:44
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean defend it. I don't have to
25:47
Speaker 1: defend it ever. I love this area. But again, to
25:50
Speaker 1: each his own. Some people live wherever you want. You know,
25:54
Speaker 1: live wherever you want. That's what I would tell anyone.
25:57
Speaker 1: If you can live where you want to live, live
25:59
Speaker 1: or it's gonna make you happiest. I am happier than
26:02
Speaker 1: a pig and shit in Scottsdale, Arizona. For the mailbag.
26:08
Speaker 1: With all the discussion of who got better in free agency,
26:11
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are flying under the radar. They
26:13
Speaker 1: didn't make any crazy moves. Brian Cook, Mafey, Jonathan Allen
26:17
Speaker 1: signings all improvements to a defense. It just needs to
26:19
Speaker 1: be average. What are your thoughts and their signings and
26:22
Speaker 1: what else do you need to see them do to
26:25
Speaker 1: think they can make some noise in the AFC. I
26:27
Speaker 1: think they can make noise in the AFC because I'm
26:29
Speaker 1: with you if their defense is just solid and Burrow
26:33
Speaker 1: has a bounce back year. I mean, he had some
26:34
Speaker 1: moments last year, but toward the end of the season
26:37
Speaker 1: it was weird. Maybe he was just kind of checked out.
26:41
Speaker 1: I don't see why they couldn't be a double digit
26:43
Speaker 1: win team and be a AFC contender, and they definitely
26:48
Speaker 1: win the division for sure. Now, one thing they're gonna
26:51
Speaker 1: need to do is the dude they drafted last year,
26:54
Speaker 1: Stuart from A and M that was the freak at
26:57
Speaker 1: the Combine and had like five career sack college. They're
27:01
Speaker 1: gonna need that guy to improve. You know, they're gonna
27:03
Speaker 1: need like there was gonna be I said this yesterday
27:05
Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers. They drafted mikel Williams from Georgia.
27:08
Speaker 1: The eleventh pick they drafted Shamar Stewart. Relatively, I forget
27:13
Speaker 1: the exact pick, what top fifteen ish, Like, they're gonna
27:16
Speaker 1: need that guy. Hendrickson. I know he was gone because
27:18
Speaker 1: he was injured last year, but when he was getting
27:21
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half sacks that they don't need that.
27:23
Speaker 1: But like, can he be a really productive player because
27:26
Speaker 1: if he can, or just an impactful player even if
27:28
Speaker 1: the sacks aren't there. Can he get some pressures? Can
27:31
Speaker 1: he be just a solid, high end rotational guy in
27:36
Speaker 1: year two? Because if he can that, that would be
27:38
Speaker 1: a big boost. They also because they had a shitty record.
27:41
Speaker 1: What's their draft pick this year? Ten? Are they? Are
27:43
Speaker 1: they drafting right after the Chiefs? I'm pretty sure they
27:46
Speaker 1: are because I've seen a bunch of marks where they have,
27:49
Speaker 1: like Caleb Downs going the draft draft rounds. The Bengals
27:56
Speaker 1: are drafting ten. So like the Chiefs, they could get
27:59
Speaker 1: a swim eat player. I mean, if it's not inconceivable
28:03
Speaker 1: the Baines there that they could take Caleb Downs there,
28:07
Speaker 1: they could take a good offensive lineman there. Like them
28:10
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are two teams that that's a pretty
28:14
Speaker 1: sweet spot in the draft. I think you would rather
28:17
Speaker 1: given how much you have to pay for some of
28:19
Speaker 1: these guys. You know, there's a big difference in the contract.
28:23
Speaker 1: Especially those two teams have high priced guys like the
28:26
Speaker 1: guy they could get at nine and ten could be
28:29
Speaker 1: every bit as good as the guys that go. You
28:31
Speaker 1: know in the two and three congrats on the becoming
28:36
Speaker 1: a father, greatest gift in the world. First year is
28:40
Speaker 1: gonna be the toughest, That is true. So I'm a
28:43
Speaker 1: diehard Bills fan, and I know we still have some
28:46
Speaker 1: prime years of Josh Allen left. But I'm starting to
28:49
Speaker 1: wonder if the thirteen second game broke this franchise, like
28:52
Speaker 1: the Falcons loss to the Pats. Let's say Josh plays
28:56
Speaker 1: five more years and never raises the Lombardi. Could you
29:00
Speaker 1: see him with another team? I mean, that's he's what
29:04
Speaker 1: almost thirty years old to be there. Like, I wouldn't
29:06
Speaker 1: even worry that. Like I to me, you have this
29:09
Speaker 1: moment this year and next, like you were in this
29:12
Speaker 1: sweet spot last year, this this run, and this run
29:15
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be ten years, right, So you had
29:18
Speaker 1: the last three or four years going back to the
29:21
Speaker 1: thirteen second game, you're still in the middle of the run.
29:24
Speaker 1: You had a good shot last year, and there's a
29:27
Speaker 1: reason they were all in tears. But like if I
29:31
Speaker 1: if we treated the Bills like a stock and I
29:33
Speaker 1: had a large holding of my net worth in it,
29:37
Speaker 1: let's say fifty percent. Let's say I was all in
29:40
Speaker 1: on the stock, kind of like I am uber in
29:43
Speaker 1: real life. I'm all in, and it's just if I'm
29:46
Speaker 1: gonna be rich, that thing's gonna work. If I'm not,
29:50
Speaker 1: it won't. But I would say this, I would I
29:54
Speaker 1: would not only hold my stock, I would keep buying
29:56
Speaker 1: as long as they got Josh, as long as they
29:58
Speaker 1: got like their team's still really talented. So you add
30:01
Speaker 1: DJ Moore, they're gonna Bradley Chubb to be pretty good.
30:05
Speaker 1: But Bosa was like meh, and they were still right
30:09
Speaker 1: there in the second round on the road. So I'm
30:12
Speaker 1: a believer. They've won a lot of playoff games. They
30:15
Speaker 1: really have. I mean what, the Chiefs beat him four
30:18
Speaker 1: or five years and the other year they lost the Bengals.
30:20
Speaker 1: So it'd be one thing if you're losing like the
30:24
Speaker 1: Jags loss would have been bad, but they won that game.
30:27
Speaker 1: They have a lot of positive reps. You know, we
30:29
Speaker 1: talked about this last podcast about the clutch thing, Like,
30:34
Speaker 1: they have won a lot of games. Now can they
30:36
Speaker 1: win the biggest game when they play the Chiefs, when
30:40
Speaker 1: they play I mean at Denver that was a massive
30:42
Speaker 1: game disputing it, and you gotta win that game. You
30:47
Speaker 1: just do. Now, it turns out Josh had a broken
30:49
Speaker 1: bone in his foot, but I would not. Not only
30:52
Speaker 1: would I not sell Buffalo stock, I would buy more.
30:56
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on changing the field goal from three to
30:59
Speaker 1: two points, it doesn't seem right to me that two
31:02
Speaker 1: first downs and you get a sixty yard field goal
31:05
Speaker 1: and get you fifty percent of the points for driving
31:07
Speaker 1: the entire field of a touchdown. I know it's always
31:10
Speaker 1: been this way, but these days there are more domes
31:13
Speaker 1: the k balls. I'll say this. When you were down
31:20
Speaker 1: three points, two points or one point the time, you
31:24
Speaker 1: used to need a lot of time right to get
31:27
Speaker 1: in the field goal range because they could kick it
31:30
Speaker 1: out of bounds. You started the twenty and a fifty
31:33
Speaker 1: yard field goal twenty years ago was considered a long
31:35
Speaker 1: field goal, so you would have to get a bunch
31:38
Speaker 1: of first downs or a big time explosive play. Well,
31:42
Speaker 1: now I'm starting the ball at the thirty five. If
31:45
Speaker 1: my guy returns it, maybe I'm at the forty. Now
31:48
Speaker 1: with sixty yard field goals, I have to get a
31:50
Speaker 1: first down and a half and depending on my kicker.
31:53
Speaker 1: I really don't have to go that far. I think
31:55
Speaker 1: there is some conversation of I enjoy the new kickoff
31:59
Speaker 1: rule when the kickoff is going on, just because there's
32:02
Speaker 1: more stuff going on, But then I don't enjoy it
32:05
Speaker 1: with how I would say it's manipulating the sport a
32:10
Speaker 1: little bit. And we've seen some of these comebacks because
32:14
Speaker 1: of this kickoff rule. With the ability to get a
32:17
Speaker 1: field goal, you're just so much closer to the fifty
32:20
Speaker 1: yard line. I mean, if you have a return or
32:23
Speaker 1: he kicks out of boundary started the forty, you are
32:25
Speaker 1: one first down away from midfield. Remember not that long ago,
32:32
Speaker 1: thirty seconds left. You're like, I'm at the twenty. How
32:35
Speaker 1: am I gonna get the midfield? I gotta start throwing
32:37
Speaker 1: like go routes and deep post routes, throw like borderline
32:41
Speaker 1: hail Mary's. Now you don't have to do any of that.
32:44
Speaker 1: So I I don't love changing the number, right. I
32:50
Speaker 1: do think there's something field goals worth three, but I
32:53
Speaker 1: am with you that it doesn't quite feel the same,
32:57
Speaker 1: not only with the ease in which you kick it,
32:59
Speaker 1: but the kickoff to me has changed. I'm less caught
33:02
Speaker 1: up with their ability to maximize longer field goals and
33:06
Speaker 1: more caught up with where they start. I thought the
33:09
Speaker 1: Chargers were gonna make a splash. They were top five
33:11
Speaker 1: a cap. Actually, I believe first to start in free
33:15
Speaker 1: agency and if not made any sort of groundbreaking moves,
33:18
Speaker 1: any idea why Well, ge Ortiz, their general manager, comes
33:22
Speaker 1: from the Ravens, and historically the Ravens were not I
33:25
Speaker 1: mean Trey Anderson. They gave a lot of money, but
33:28
Speaker 1: they were not. They always let guys walk. So I
33:31
Speaker 1: think that mentality of draft develop build the culture. You
33:36
Speaker 1: have to pay premiums in free agency. So it's like
33:39
Speaker 1: they re sign Khalil Mack. They gave him eighteen million dollars, right.
33:43
Speaker 1: Think about Mike Evans was a big free agency signing
33:45
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. He got less, so that
33:48
Speaker 1: I think they view that like that's a real signing, right,
33:51
Speaker 1: that's a real signing. And then you get Slater and
33:54
Speaker 1: Alt back. It's like we're getting guys back. So I
33:58
Speaker 1: hear you. I I just want to know who would
34:01
Speaker 1: have been a guy. Look what it costs to get
34:04
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips right, because you like go ad Jalen Phillips
34:07
Speaker 1: you put him on that defensive line with some of
34:09
Speaker 1: the other pass rushers. I'm just using him as an
34:12
Speaker 1: example that Tyler Lindebaum the center. Like, look at the
34:17
Speaker 1: prices you have to pay for good players. Could they
34:20
Speaker 1: have been aggressive to like get Bradley Chubb. They gave
34:22
Speaker 1: him thirty million dollars. He's always banged up, So I
34:25
Speaker 1: understand it. I mean, I really do. I think you
34:28
Speaker 1: can nitpick individual players. But I think you go that
34:32
Speaker 1: we don't love that amount, we don't like doing that deal.
34:35
Speaker 1: We want to keep our powder dry. I think Jim
34:40
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is a pretty good track record of Like you
34:43
Speaker 1: go back to the forty nine ers, A lot of
34:45
Speaker 1: their free agency moves when he was there were like
34:49
Speaker 1: kind of under the radar, like Dante Whitner. No one
34:52
Speaker 1: wanted him at the time, Carlos Rogers, they didn't have
34:55
Speaker 1: to pay much, you know, they got kind of guys
34:57
Speaker 1: that he's never been I don't remember remember the biggest
35:00
Speaker 1: free agents. Now he has the only coach in the
35:02
Speaker 1: NFL for six years, right, But like, would he have
35:06
Speaker 1: been a big nil? I guess he would have been
35:09
Speaker 1: an nil guy. They were spending money, but a transfer
35:12
Speaker 1: portal guy guy here or there. But it feels like
35:15
Speaker 1: most of the guys. I could be wrong. I'm just
35:17
Speaker 1: thinking about their roster. Aiden Hutson, Mason, Graham, Blake, Quorum,
35:22
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, JJ McCarthy homegrown guys. I don't
35:28
Speaker 1: have an issue with letting guys walk. What peptides do
35:32
Speaker 1: you take? Just want to know because I don't want
35:35
Speaker 1: to take shots. I want something I can swallow. I'm
35:39
Speaker 1: a big peptide guy. Even though I've looked at myself
35:41
Speaker 1: in the mirror last two weeks and they told me
35:43
Speaker 1: this it takes a little time. I'm like, I'm like steroids.
35:45
Speaker 1: I'm ready for instant results. It takes a little time.
35:48
Speaker 1: Gotta eat right, gotta work out, which working out is
35:52
Speaker 1: not the problem eating right. It takes discipline. I'm on.
35:56
Speaker 1: I have said this before. The BPC and the CJC
36:00
Speaker 1: like gut skin health, and the other is like the
36:05
Speaker 1: growth hormone slash fat burning, I think, and those are
36:10
Speaker 1: just dissolvables put in my mouth. Take the the gut
36:14
Speaker 1: one in the morning, and I take the growth the
36:18
Speaker 1: CJC at night. Packers Fan here with a genuine question
36:22
Speaker 1: about your Jordan Love takes. The narrative have been's confusing
36:26
Speaker 1: last season, as total EPA was second the league behind
36:28
Speaker 1: Drake May and he makes wild throws all the time.
36:31
Speaker 1: He was in the MVP conversation with three quarters of
36:34
Speaker 1: the way to go. It feels like the early narrative
36:37
Speaker 1: is that he's sloppy and throws a ton of picks.
36:38
Speaker 1: Every quarterback is bad games, even Allen and Rodgers did too.
36:42
Speaker 1: So what specifically are you seeing that keeps you skeptical Love?
36:45
Speaker 1: It's frustrating when the media gets locked into a narrative
36:48
Speaker 1: that isn't applied the same way to other quarterbacks. I
36:51
Speaker 1: think Jordan Love's good started quarterback. I've never acted like
36:54
Speaker 1: Jordan Loves some scrub. I think the question is you
36:57
Speaker 1: know you come from Rogers, you see all the top five?
37:00
Speaker 1: Is he just like in the Dack Purty? Is that
37:03
Speaker 1: like the world he's in and there's nothing wrong with that?
37:06
Speaker 1: Like the Packers there build a good team. You can
37:08
Speaker 1: win a bunch of games with him. I'm pro Jordan Love. Now,
37:12
Speaker 1: can you win a super Bowl with him? Can you
37:14
Speaker 1: rattle off a bunch of playoff wins with him? You'll
37:16
Speaker 1: never know until he does it. But like I think
37:19
Speaker 1: most people would be skeptical. I don't know anyone with
37:23
Speaker 1: a brain that says he's not a good player. He's
37:25
Speaker 1: a very very solid player, very solid player, especially late
37:30
Speaker 1: first round, SAT forever. I don't feel like I'm shitting
37:34
Speaker 1: on him by any means. I just think there are
37:37
Speaker 1: times in games where you're just like, what's going on?
37:40
Speaker 1: And I think people in your guys world get very
37:43
Speaker 1: critical of the coach they've Obviously last year, you know,
37:48
Speaker 1: you lose a tight end to an injury. Receivers were
37:51
Speaker 1: banged up and kind of having drops. Jacob's dealt with
37:56
Speaker 1: some stuff you had offensive line. I mean, you had
37:58
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries last year. So I'm not acting
38:02
Speaker 1: like Jordan Love's Tua Malik Willis was the most sought
38:08
Speaker 1: after free agent quarterback this year, despite the small sample size.
38:14
Speaker 1: If you were a team, do you think the Bears
38:16
Speaker 1: would take a third and a fifth rounder for Tyson?
38:20
Speaker 1: He came from a small school but has looked great.
38:22
Speaker 1: When his name was called, you have to wonder if
38:26
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers are thinking about trading for him. I
38:30
Speaker 1: saw Rod Woodson Rich eisen Or a podcast or something,
38:34
Speaker 1: and Rod's a pretty he's opinionated. I used to work
38:37
Speaker 1: with him when I did radio. Pretty big legend, just
38:41
Speaker 1: bigger than you think. Also got fucking big hands. But
38:45
Speaker 1: he's a pretty understated guy. But he's you can just tell, like,
38:49
Speaker 1: if this guy talks, he's take him seriously. His comments
38:52
Speaker 1: were like, the Steelers got to get out of this
38:54
Speaker 1: waiting for Rogers business. And you have to wonder if
38:58
Speaker 1: they are gonna think long and hard about trading for Tyson.
39:01
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw that rumor on the internet. I
39:03
Speaker 1: actually think it makes some sense. A third and a
39:05
Speaker 1: fifth be pretty bold. Did he get a contract? I
39:11
Speaker 1: know he got an ex he got two years five million,
39:14
Speaker 1: But is that ANX was that? Was he a free agent?
39:19
Speaker 1: Or like? Is that for the next two years? Like
39:22
Speaker 1: how long is he under contract for? Yeah, so if
39:27
Speaker 1: you trade for him right now, he's under contract for
39:28
Speaker 1: the next two years, I think you can justify trading
39:35
Speaker 1: a third be risky. I mean, there's no guarantee comes
39:37
Speaker 1: from the Division two. I remember when he started that
39:40
Speaker 1: game for Eberflu She's like, what is going on here?
39:43
Speaker 1: But Ben Johnson likes him. I like him, I mean,
39:46
Speaker 1: and he was impressive in when he played last year
39:48
Speaker 1: in the in the preseason looks good. Is it fair
39:53
Speaker 1: to say that Will Campbell is trending toward being a bust?
39:56
Speaker 1: I know it's easy to say now, but I never
39:58
Speaker 1: understood the hype on him going back the draft. The
40:00
Speaker 1: guy was picked before three round one tackles Membo, Banks
40:04
Speaker 1: and Simmons who flashed all pro potential as rookies, which
40:09
Speaker 1: no one in the media seems to really mention. Do
40:11
Speaker 1: the Pats or Vrabel get the benefit the dabt on this, Yes,
40:15
Speaker 1: you cannot be a bust when you are starter on
40:19
Speaker 1: a good team as a rookie like I just we
40:23
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. He was obviously hurt
40:27
Speaker 1: and got worked in the playoffs, There's no disputing that.
40:30
Speaker 1: But I've seen enough like the Whitworth types that say
40:34
Speaker 1: he needs a major overhaul on his technique. There are
40:38
Speaker 1: ways you can play when you are physically greater than
40:42
Speaker 1: everyone else, when you are you know, Jason Peters, Trent Williams.
40:50
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the longtime cowboy. I don't
40:55
Speaker 1: know a brain fog here from the baby tackle from USC,
41:00
Speaker 1: the great player, some Smith, I don't. I don't know
41:03
Speaker 1: why I'm blinking on this, but if you just are
41:06
Speaker 1: way more talented than everyone else, your technique can be
41:09
Speaker 1: hit or miss whatever. There are certain players technique with
41:13
Speaker 1: offensive line is such a big deal if you play
41:16
Speaker 1: in high school, obviously college and the pros because of
41:18
Speaker 1: the talent you're going against. But I think he's gonna
41:21
Speaker 1: need a tech He's gotta be healthy, but for his
41:24
Speaker 1: skill set, like he's never gonna be Anthony Munos, you know,
41:28
Speaker 1: or Jonathan Ogden, So technically he's gonna have to be elite.
41:33
Speaker 1: And I would not just sell like he sucks, but
41:38
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of pressure and
41:40
Speaker 1: a lot of eyeballs on him next year, for sure.
41:43
Speaker 1: But you can't be a bust after your rookie year.
41:46
Speaker 1: In your opinion, what's worse being a fan of a
41:49
Speaker 1: super talented team loaded with all the right players that
41:51
Speaker 1: consistently underperforms in the postseason or being a fan of
41:55
Speaker 1: a consistently bad team that you know won't be successful
41:58
Speaker 1: so you're not really disappointed at the end of the
41:59
Speaker 1: year being a Ravens fan. And this probably applies to
42:03
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Niners two. Sometimes it feels like
42:06
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt at the bar, but still going home alone. Meanwhile,
42:09
Speaker 1: being a Browns, Jets or Raider fan must be like
42:12
Speaker 1: being the ugly guy at the bar who goes home alone,
42:14
Speaker 1: but he's fine with it because he wasn't expecting anything
42:16
Speaker 1: to happen. Well, the one thing, if you're Brad Pitt,
42:19
Speaker 1: even if you go home alone at the bar one night,
42:22
Speaker 1: you're not spending a lot of nights alone. Now you
42:25
Speaker 1: might not marry her, she might leave you, but you're
42:27
Speaker 1: still getting laid all the time. The ugly guy is
42:31
Speaker 1: alone and he's on his phone on the websites that
42:35
Speaker 1: now make you put it in an ID. So I
42:38
Speaker 1: think that you would much. Do you know what it's like,
42:42
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you do, because every team's had a
42:45
Speaker 1: down year. When you're winning three four games every year,
42:49
Speaker 1: the season is over before Halloween. So if you're a
42:53
Speaker 1: Ravens fan, or a Bills fan or a Niner fan,
42:56
Speaker 1: you play in so many important games. So yeah, it
42:59
Speaker 1: sucks to losing the playoffs or losing the Super Bowl,
43:02
Speaker 1: or losing the AFC Championship game. No one would argue
43:05
Speaker 1: that it blows. But you get to watch the AFC
43:09
Speaker 1: championship game with your team in it. When when you're
43:13
Speaker 1: the Browns you get to hang your hat on. Well,
43:15
Speaker 1: we're just we're throwing this out to the league. We
43:17
Speaker 1: would like to be able to trade five years out.
43:21
Speaker 1: That's what that's what are That's that's what we're bringing
43:25
Speaker 1: to the table with this organization, right, that is all
43:29
Speaker 1: added value to the league. So you'd rather be loved
43:36
Speaker 1: and left than never loved at all. One. You would
43:40
Speaker 1: rather be a good team that gets let down like
43:44
Speaker 1: the Eagles. You would much rather go through this Eagle
43:48
Speaker 1: season and host a playoff game than be the Browns
43:52
Speaker 1: or the Jets. There's nothing, well, there is something a
43:56
Speaker 1: bad baseball team like the worst baseball team in the league.
44:00
Speaker 1: It is the worst. There's nothing worse than that. Because
44:03
Speaker 1: football is only once a week and some of the
44:06
Speaker 1: games are still gonna be semi close. Baseball would be
44:10
Speaker 1: the worst quite far. At least in basketball, they're like, yeah,
44:12
Speaker 1: we're not even trying to win, so you're likeyeah, I
44:13
Speaker 1: don't even need to watch. Question for the back do
44:29
Speaker 1: you think that having no state income tax has competitive
44:32
Speaker 1: advantages against other teams? There has been discussion recently about
44:36
Speaker 1: contracts within free agency and just curious what your take
44:39
Speaker 1: is on this. Do you think a salary cap league
44:42
Speaker 1: that tries to make it as even as possible should
44:44
Speaker 1: try to counteract the discrepancy as well. I guess no
44:48
Speaker 1: team recently have really done shit in those states other
44:51
Speaker 1: than the Bucks, so maybe it's not a big deal.
44:53
Speaker 1: I was asked this about because that rule in Seattle
44:57
Speaker 1: that just got Howard Schultz to move to Florida. That
45:01
Speaker 1: I actually met Jordan Schultz at the combine and I
45:07
Speaker 1: told him. I listened to a podcast with his dad
45:09
Speaker 1: called Acquired on Just the How he Started Starbucks, The
45:13
Speaker 1: Origin of Starbucks, How he Built Starbucks. It's one of
45:17
Speaker 1: the best business podcasts I've ever listened to. It was
45:19
Speaker 1: it wasn't incredible. I didn't know that much about it
45:23
Speaker 1: besides just I'm a user of the product, been spent
45:26
Speaker 1: a lot of money, probably thousands of dollars in my life.
45:28
Speaker 1: Especially now. They charged like seven dollars for a Venti
45:31
Speaker 1: Colebrew with almond milk. I mean, that's pretty crazy, But
45:34
Speaker 1: that shit I still pay when I need to pick
45:37
Speaker 1: me up. Is he's just moved. I think it's a
45:42
Speaker 1: bigger factor, like I'm a good example one of the
45:46
Speaker 1: main I mean, I moved to Arizona for several reasons,
45:49
Speaker 1: but taxes and money played a massive factor. Like if
45:52
Speaker 1: this place had had the same tax rate as California,
45:55
Speaker 1: I would not have moved here. But my earning potential
46:01
Speaker 1: right last longer. So you can think over the course
46:04
Speaker 1: of decades when you are in a situation of like
46:08
Speaker 1: there's a chance if you're getting offered contracts that's the
46:10
Speaker 1: biggest contract, Like this is the only contract I'm ever
46:13
Speaker 1: gonna have twenty eight years old. We've seen constantly in
46:17
Speaker 1: the NFL guys get injured, their careers end. It happens
46:19
Speaker 1: all the time. The average shelf life of an NFL
46:21
Speaker 1: players three years. I think we have a pretty long
46:24
Speaker 1: track record of if you offer the most money gross,
46:28
Speaker 1: the net isn't a factor big of a factor as
46:32
Speaker 1: I think it plays out like for normal humans and
46:35
Speaker 1: businesses in society right now, because obviously we have seen
46:39
Speaker 1: a mass migration in New York, We've seen a mass
46:41
Speaker 1: migration in California with these big money now we're seeing
46:44
Speaker 1: in Seattle. I think in professional sports it's kind of
46:49
Speaker 1: shown that like the Cowboys would have everyone lined up
46:53
Speaker 1: to go there, right. I mean the Rams have been dominant.
46:56
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have been to multiple Super Bowls
46:58
Speaker 1: and multiple other playoffs. I mean, Seattle has no sit
47:02
Speaker 1: income tax, but the Giants won multiple super Bowls with
47:06
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin. The Patriots have enormous taxes, and they've been good,
47:12
Speaker 1: you know, a little blip in the radar for three
47:13
Speaker 1: or four years, but twenty years with Bill and now
47:16
Speaker 1: with Rabel. So I actually don't think it has this.
47:19
Speaker 1: I think it has none because it's like, why do
47:22
Speaker 1: the Jags always suck? Why do the Titans always suck?
47:25
Speaker 1: Texans are now good. It doesn't mean it doesn't work
47:28
Speaker 1: to your advantage to keep guys once you're pretty good.
47:31
Speaker 1: But I would say historically in football it's had little
47:36
Speaker 1: to no impact at all because if you look at
47:39
Speaker 1: the top teams, I mean over the course since McVeigh
47:42
Speaker 1: got there, the Rams have dominated, since Kyle got there.
47:45
Speaker 1: By year three, they've been excellent. Philly, I'm pretty sure
47:48
Speaker 1: as relatively high taxes, they've been good for almost a
47:52
Speaker 1: decade now with Howie taking back control. Like I said,
47:55
Speaker 1: the Patriots soda is always good. They got pretty eye taxes, right, Chicago,
48:03
Speaker 1: I think is gonna be good moving forward. They got
48:05
Speaker 1: astronomical taxes, so I I also think the agent and
48:10
Speaker 1: I said this the other day, and maybe it changes
48:12
Speaker 1: a little deal the deal, but they get paid on
48:14
Speaker 1: the gross. So if I signed you to one hundred
48:16
Speaker 1: million dollar contract, if I get whatever, my percentage is
48:19
Speaker 1: one point five, I'm paid on that number, not where
48:21
Speaker 1: you take home. You pay me off what you take home.
48:25
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure they get paid on the gross number.
48:28
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the numbers are so big you get into
48:30
Speaker 1: the weeds, like the guaranteed number, but it's still the
48:32
Speaker 1: gross number, not the net number. And again maybe that's changed.
48:38
Speaker 1: The numbers got huge, but I'm not sure. I don't
48:41
Speaker 1: think so. Because think about this, like, wouldn't it impact
48:47
Speaker 1: coaches like Kyle and McVeigh probably make combined thirty million dollars.
48:53
Speaker 1: California loves those two guys, their w two employees. So
48:56
Speaker 1: I mean they're paying combined probably fifteen million dollars in taxes.
49:00
Speaker 1: I mean, think how many average joes in California it
49:03
Speaker 1: takes to equal what Kyle and John McVay pay in taxes.
49:07
Speaker 1: Takes a lot. So what wouldn't those guys want to
49:10
Speaker 1: go coach Cowboys or something. I think you're gonna make
49:13
Speaker 1: the argument for coaches as well. You excel at your craft. God,
49:17
Speaker 1: I like this guy. Typically that requires a lot of reviews,
49:20
Speaker 1: self critique of your work, regardless of what your craft is. However,
49:24
Speaker 1: you pump out so much content. I can't imagine you
49:27
Speaker 1: have time to listen watch it all. What's your deal?
49:31
Speaker 1: What's your deal? Bro? You eventually got to got to
49:35
Speaker 1: a place where you can just wing it and roll
49:37
Speaker 1: day after day. Sidebar your Spotify album cover. Pick needs
49:41
Speaker 1: a serious reboot upgrade. Not throwing any shape, just a
49:46
Speaker 1: fact you're far too good slash polished to rock that pick.
49:50
Speaker 1: Does you know favors? It's old pick? We actually did
49:55
Speaker 1: like some photos out of the Arizona State football program.
49:59
Speaker 1: I was like, I had gotten sick and I look
50:02
Speaker 1: so terrible. I'm like, I can't use those photos. So
50:06
Speaker 1: it's it's in the opera to change change the outdated photo.
50:10
Speaker 1: I mean that photos five five years old. It's also like,
50:13
Speaker 1: is this that series of a show like this? We're
50:17
Speaker 1: not talking the Iran War here, I mean I'm talking
50:20
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Number one wide receiver and baby shitting all
50:23
Speaker 1: over the ground. So I hear you, uh, but I haven't.
50:29
Speaker 1: I don't really think that much about it. I also
50:31
Speaker 1: don't wing the show right maybe on the mail bag
50:35
Speaker 1: like I'm just reacting. But when I do a podcast,
50:38
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a notebook. I break down topics
50:43
Speaker 1: and I don't like read. I just talk, but I
50:47
Speaker 1: write out my thoughts and the main topics or the
50:51
Speaker 1: main angles I want to have. And so when I talk,
50:54
Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm just freelancing it. But I've already
50:56
Speaker 1: gone over everything I'm gonna say. Now. Sometimes I go
51:01
Speaker 1: off on different tangents that are just I would say
51:06
Speaker 1: ad libbed, but I wouldn't say my show is an
51:09
Speaker 1: ad lib show by any means. I approach it much
51:14
Speaker 1: no different than you know. I've been around Colin Now
51:17
Speaker 1: at his show for years and seeing how I mean
51:19
Speaker 1: I go back. I went and kind of shadowed him
51:23
Speaker 1: probably in like seventeen or eighteen, and that really changed
51:28
Speaker 1: the way that I approach podcasts, and also working in radio,
51:31
Speaker 1: I've always kind of done that. So I this isn't
51:34
Speaker 1: just a wing it deal. I mean, this is my life.
51:36
Speaker 1: So I mean I take this ship pretty seriously, but
51:39
Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind of words and U. Yeah, we
51:42
Speaker 1: gotta maybe we gotta update the Photo's why I'm on
51:44
Speaker 1: peptides to get myself looking a little bit better and
51:46
Speaker 1: we can pop something up of skinny Jack John. We've
51:51
Speaker 1: got a ways to go, though. I'm a big Broncos fan.
51:55
Speaker 1: It's Nowaday four a free agency, and we are still
51:57
Speaker 1: waiting for them to make a move. Oh this is
51:59
Speaker 1: a little old. You guys got Wattle. I get that
52:03
Speaker 1: we are the number one seed and we're an ankle
52:04
Speaker 1: injury away from a super Bowl, but all that doesn't
52:07
Speaker 1: carry over. We can't just expect to run it back
52:10
Speaker 1: with the team and expect the same results. The Bills
52:12
Speaker 1: got better, the Ravens got better, the Patriots got better. Hell,
52:15
Speaker 1: everyone in the AFC has made at least some sort
52:17
Speaker 1: of addition. We're in the private boat Knick's rookie year.
52:20
Speaker 1: This should be our window. Look, I'm trying to think
52:25
Speaker 1: they want to win. By the way, we just signed
52:27
Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey while I'm typing this. I think the
52:30
Speaker 1: wattle Will move was a bold play. I mean, that's
52:34
Speaker 1: chips all the way in the middle of the table.
52:36
Speaker 1: They resigned JK. Dobbins, they have they have sudden, they
52:44
Speaker 1: have I'm gonna pull up the Denver Broncos. Where's Denver?
52:51
Speaker 1: So pick thirty is gone, so you have well that's
52:56
Speaker 1: the second round. So you have pick thirty. In the
52:58
Speaker 1: second round, you have two A five and three sevenths.
53:05
Speaker 1: So in a perfect world, those two fours in A
53:08
Speaker 1: two you would like to get an you know, just
53:12
Speaker 1: hit on one of the three guys. So this draft,
53:17
Speaker 1: there's a chance one guy in this draft impacts your
53:20
Speaker 1: team next year because you can't really I mean, you
53:22
Speaker 1: got three sevens at the end of the round, your
53:25
Speaker 1: fifth at the end of the round. You have a
53:27
Speaker 1: couple of good fours. These are oh because you swapped
53:30
Speaker 1: with Miami, and this other four is uh, well, let
53:35
Speaker 1: me see how you got it must have been a
53:37
Speaker 1: trade though. You have two good fours. So on day
53:42
Speaker 1: three you have the eighth pick and the eleventh pick.
53:46
Speaker 1: So once we get day three, you have two high picks.
53:49
Speaker 1: You could probably package those two four or one of
53:51
Speaker 1: those fours and move up in the second round to
53:53
Speaker 1: get a good player. You probably could actually go from
53:57
Speaker 1: like pick thirty to middle of the round and give
54:00
Speaker 1: one of those fours away. Listen. Every day gets me
54:05
Speaker 1: through the night shift. Diehard Seahawks fan, curious what the
54:08
Speaker 1: bleep we're doing. I know the free agent market isn't fantastic,
54:12
Speaker 1: but we have forty million dollars in caps based only
54:14
Speaker 1: four picks in the draft. We can't lose three major
54:16
Speaker 1: players and think we can replace them in the draft.
54:18
Speaker 1: John needs to stop being so conservative in free agency
54:21
Speaker 1: last year. Last year was one of the few years
54:26
Speaker 1: we spent and it worked. We got a Super Bowl.
54:28
Speaker 1: Here's your thoughts. Can I defend my guy here? I
54:32
Speaker 1: think you have to be very careful think about this.
54:35
Speaker 1: When you guys had I mean the best team. I
54:37
Speaker 1: know you just won the Super Bowl, but the LB
54:39
Speaker 1: team was better, best team in franchise history, back to
54:43
Speaker 1: back Super bowls. He extended all those guys and within
54:46
Speaker 1: a couple of years, it's like, God, we kind of
54:48
Speaker 1: kind of regret some of this, right, and I don't
54:52
Speaker 1: think Let's choose the two main guys, the running back
54:57
Speaker 1: and Kobe Bryant. And Kobe Brank fourteen million dollars a year,
55:01
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get fourteen million dollars a year, which
55:03
Speaker 1: is more power to him. I mean, he's a good player,
55:06
Speaker 1: but he's gonna pay fourteen million dollars a year when
55:08
Speaker 1: he's got Witherspoon coming up, JSN coming up, you want
55:11
Speaker 1: to keep your powder dry. I just think he wasn't
55:15
Speaker 1: gonna pay Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker was not gonna be
55:18
Speaker 1: come back, and I think that's the right move. I
55:22
Speaker 1: do like. I also think like the Chiefs makes a
55:26
Speaker 1: lot of sense. But the Chiefs coming off a six
55:30
Speaker 1: win team, little more desperate than a team that just
55:33
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. I think if the Chiefs were
55:34
Speaker 1: in the same spot and the roles were reversed, they
55:36
Speaker 1: would have let Kenneth Walker walk as well. So I
55:40
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, I don't really have a big bone
55:43
Speaker 1: to pick. It's not like, you know, even Warri was
55:46
Speaker 1: up and they let him walk. Witherspoon was up and
55:49
Speaker 1: they let him walk. JSN was up and they couldn't
55:52
Speaker 1: get a deal. That's not what we're talking about here.
55:55
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't. I think running backs you
55:59
Speaker 1: gotta feel pretty confident you can find them. And the
56:02
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant thing is like part of also is having
56:05
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's who is a defensive backfield secondary mastermind. And
56:10
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of other good players in the secondary,
56:12
Speaker 1: and this draft is loaded with good safeties. So I
56:16
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I gotta be honest. I don't
56:19
Speaker 1: have a big issue with I don't know most of
56:22
Speaker 1: these free agents, like what was how he's supposed to do?
56:25
Speaker 1: Even the Ravens, like you were gonna pay your center
56:27
Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars? Makes more sense for the Raiders too,
56:29
Speaker 1: way overpay. They got thisok quarterback coming in. So I
56:33
Speaker 1: think sometimes in free agency it's like the Chargers love
56:38
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. So were there are a lot of teams
56:40
Speaker 1: gonna give Khalil Mack eighteen million? Probably not right. I
56:44
Speaker 1: bet his market would have been low teens, but it's
56:48
Speaker 1: worth The Chargers like, hey, we just want to keep
56:51
Speaker 1: you here. We know the tax is a little higher,
56:53
Speaker 1: so we'll pay a little more. We just love you
56:54
Speaker 1: around and you're a good player, but we and I
56:59
Speaker 1: think you do that with the guy. They also gave
57:01
Speaker 1: him a one year contract, and Kenneth Walker essentially got
57:04
Speaker 1: the Saquon Barkley deal of a couple of years ago.
57:08
Speaker 1: Like he's got a if Kenneth Walker is gonna work
57:10
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, like they're gonna need that guy that
57:12
Speaker 1: was there the last couple of months. There's gonna be
57:14
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Kenneth Walker to be good. Now.
57:16
Speaker 1: I think he will be good because he's got a
57:17
Speaker 1: great coach. And but was Seattle supposed to give him
57:21
Speaker 1: that contract? I don't think you could. And I think
57:25
Speaker 1: they really like Kobe Bryant, But there was in one
57:28
Speaker 1: of those positions with the unit, they kind of had
57:31
Speaker 1: a number, and it's like, this is way more than us.
57:33
Speaker 1: Who's a team that has historically done a really good
57:36
Speaker 1: job of that, the Ravens. It's like, this guy is
57:39
Speaker 1: gonna make way more than wolver willing to pay cause
57:42
Speaker 1: you pick and that's part of building a good team.
57:44
Speaker 1: Five or six core guys right their left tackle, their quarterback, JSN,
57:50
Speaker 1: a couple of secondary guys like those are the guys
57:53
Speaker 1: all of our chips in the middle of the table
57:55
Speaker 1: one And I also think, like, does John Schneider not
57:58
Speaker 1: deserve the benefit of doubt, Like there's a short list
58:02
Speaker 1: of gms like he deserves benefit of doubt, period, point blank.
58:07
Speaker 1: Like Eagle fans don't love every move that happens. It
58:10
Speaker 1: was like, you know, how he deserves it. I think
58:12
Speaker 1: if you're Seattle, like this isn't baseball, Like you do
58:16
Speaker 1: have to think about the cap. You do have to
58:19
Speaker 1: think about like over the JOHNH. Schneider isn't just thinking
58:22
Speaker 1: about twenty six, He's thinking about the next three or
58:24
Speaker 1: four years. How do we sustain a winner like that's
58:28
Speaker 1: they want to win double digit games and they have
58:31
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald all the time. The forty nine ers kind
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Speaker 1: of like got too aggressive and it blew up in
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Speaker 1: their face a couple times, like, ah, we regret that one.
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Speaker 1: We regret that contract. Rams have done that before, Girly
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Speaker 1: and he was an excellent player. He's better than ayk right,
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Speaker 1: but the knee injury and it was like God, they
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Speaker 1: want it out. So I think team Good gms are
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Speaker 1: very sensitive to, like, is worth overpaying this player? Sometimes
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Speaker 1: you do, they'll probably have to quote unquote overpay with
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Speaker 1: they're gonna give away. There's been a ton of money.
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Speaker 1: If even WARRII keeps playing like this for the next
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Speaker 1: couple of years, he's gonna get a ton of money.
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Speaker 1: Jsn's gonna get one hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed.
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Speaker 1: But it's like, do you feel comfortable paying premiums for
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Speaker 1: these guys? And the answer to be yes, do you
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable paying a premium for your third best dB?
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Speaker 1: And the answer is no, that's part of it. If
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Speaker 1: Kobe Brant was your best dB, I could see being critical.
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Speaker 1: He's not even top two dB on their own team.
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Speaker 1: And Kenneth Walker like they like they drafted him forty one,
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Speaker 1: but most of his career had been a little underwhelming,
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs really valued him, and it's like, we're
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Speaker 1: not willing to go to that number. So I sound
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Speaker 1: like I'm defending my guy here, which is ironic. I'm
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Speaker 1: a Niner guy and I'm a big John Schnyder guy,
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Speaker 1: so I agree with what he did honestly. I mean
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Speaker 1: I would support it from the seat I'm sitting in.
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Speaker 1: I don't think anything's crazy at all. I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that left and got contracts other
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Speaker 1: places that felt like that team should have kept the guy.
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Speaker 1: Jason Light was like, we tried to keep him, we
1:00:11
Speaker 1: offered him more money, and he still left. Sometimes that happens.
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Speaker 1: The other thing is you never know about like contracts
1:00:17
Speaker 1: that were offered to players, because I hear this from
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Speaker 1: GMS of the Combine. It's like, we offered this guy
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Speaker 1: contract in the middle of the season, he turned it down.
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Speaker 1: And now the granted that number was lower than the
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Speaker 1: number he ended up getting in free agency, but I
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Speaker 1: also think that like that was the number we were comfortable.
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Speaker 1: You get thirty forty percent more and it never really
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Speaker 1: leaks out. You know that there was a contract offer
1:00:41
Speaker 1: because they just said no. That sneaky. Happens a lot, right,
1:00:45
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we made this guy an offer and
1:00:48
Speaker 1: he made We hear about some decisions that are like
1:00:52
Speaker 1: this guy turned down this much money and then it backfires.
1:00:55
Speaker 1: It also works out in the other direction a lot, like, hey,
1:00:58
Speaker 1: we offered this guy seventeen million dollars a year. He's like, nope,
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Speaker 1: I'm playing this thing out, has a great season, gets
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars a year and thirty million dollars
1:01:09
Speaker 1: more guaranteed. I think that happens a lot. That never
1:01:12
Speaker 1: comes out so because because an agent doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: put out in the training camp or early in the
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Speaker 1: season that he's turned down whatever amount of money. Because
1:01:22
Speaker 1: people be like God, are you crazy, You should take that,
1:01:26
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a risk, and some guys are
1:01:27
Speaker 1: willing to take the risk, and sometimes it's it's very
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Speaker 1: you know, fruitful for the player and the agent. Audios,
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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Talk to everyone later. The volume