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She Sold Everything - Only Her Silver Ring Came Back · Haunted Horror Stories

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  Speaker 1: She sold everything, her car, her bicycle, every piece of
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  Speaker 1: jewelry she owned. She kept only one thing, a small
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  Speaker 1: silver ring she wore every day. Three months later, that
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  Speaker 1: ring was the only way her family could identify what
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  Speaker 1: was left of her. This is the story of Blanca Arrellano,
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  Speaker 1: and there is no version of it where everything makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: When I first read the details of this case, I
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  Speaker 1: had to stop and go back to the beginning, not
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  Speaker 1: because the facts weren't clear, because they were completely clear,
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  Speaker 1: and that made it worse. Blanca Olivia Arellano Gutierrez was
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  Speaker 1: born on the 6th of February, 1971, in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Mexico. She had a degree in tourism and hospitality.
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  Speaker 1: She was the kind of person who built something out
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  Speaker 1: of whatever circumstances gave her. When the pandemic arrived, She adapted.
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  Speaker 1: She drove a taxi. She learned to play video games
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  Speaker 1: in 2020. And somewhere in that learning, she found something
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  Speaker 1: she hadn't expected. A community. She started streaming her gameplay online.
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  Speaker 1: And the people who watched her became part of her life.
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  Speaker 1: Her niece Carla was there. Friends she had never met
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  Speaker 1: in person. Were there. She showed up every week. And
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  Speaker 1: they showed up back. That ritual mattered. It always arrived.
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  Speaker 1: By the summer of 2020, Lanka had met someone through
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  Speaker 1: that same online world. His name was Juan Pablo Vilafo Tapinto,
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  Speaker 1: a 37-year-old medical student at a university in Huacho, a
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  Speaker 1: port city about 150 kilometers north of Lima. He told
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  Speaker 1: her he was divorced, unattached, ready for something real. They
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  Speaker 1: talked for months. She believed him. She sold the car.
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  Speaker 1: She sold the bicycle. She sold the bicycle. She sold
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  Speaker 1: the jewelry. All of it, except the silver ring. At 2.45
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  Speaker 1: in the morning on the 28th of July, 2022, Blanca
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  Speaker 1: landed in Lima. The last time her family saw her
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  Speaker 1: alive was in a video call recorded by her friend
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  Speaker 1: Mercedes Gaetan. Blanca was crying, but not from grief. She
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  Speaker 1: was wiping tears from her face and smiling at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. She had just arrived somewhere she had wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be. The connection dropped. That was the last image
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  Speaker 1: anyone has of her. What happened in the 100 days,
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  Speaker 1: between that call and the 9th of November, is what
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  Speaker 1: this story is about and the detail that opens it.
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  Speaker 1: The one that made investigators stop cold. is what a
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  Speaker 1: group of fishermen found before sunrise on a beach in Huacho.
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  Speaker 1: Blanca's last post went up on November 6th, 2022, a
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  Speaker 1: message to her gaming community, casual and warm, the kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing she sent regularly, no alarm in it, no goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: Three days later, on the morning of November 9th, fishermen
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  Speaker 1: working a shoreline at Churrillo's Near Huacho found something in
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  Speaker 1: the sand before the sun had fully risen, a hand. Severed,
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  Speaker 1: alone on the beach, with nobody anywhere near it, they
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  Speaker 1: moved along the waterline, not sure what they were looking at,
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  Speaker 1: not sure they wanted to know. A few meters away,
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  Speaker 1: they found a head. The rational response was to call
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  Speaker 1: the police and wait. So that is what they did.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators arrived and began working the scene. The condition of
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  Speaker 1: the remains was precise in a way that stopped them.
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  Speaker 1: The fingertips had been removed, not torn away by the
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  Speaker 1: sea or by animals. Removed, the skin of the face
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  Speaker 1: had been peeled back with care. The cuts showed familiarity
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  Speaker 1: with anatomy and understanding of tissue and layer that does
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  Speaker 1: not come from accident or rage. It comes from training.
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  Speaker 1: The following morning, November 10th, A torso surfaced near an
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  Speaker 1: irrigation canal close to the same area. Vital organs had
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  Speaker 1: been extracted. The body had been separated into parts with
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  Speaker 1: the same deliberate method as the head and hand. Police
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  Speaker 1: noted the consistency and documented it. What they did not
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  Speaker 1: yet know was whose body it was. The gaming community
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  Speaker 1: found out before most official channels did. Blanca's friends online
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  Speaker 1: had not heard from her since the 6th. Carla Arellano,
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  Speaker 1: Blanca's niece and a regular presence in that same community,
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  Speaker 1: had been trying to reach her aunt for days. The
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  Speaker 1: family in Mexico already knew something was wrong. They had
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  Speaker 1: filed a missing persons report and were waiting for anything.
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  Speaker 1: A message, a call, any signal. When images of the
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  Speaker 1: recovered remains began circulating, one detail surfaced in every account.
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  Speaker 1: A ring, silver, visible in the photographs, documenting what had
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  Speaker 1: been found on the beach. The family recognized it immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Blanca had sold her car, her bicycle, and her other
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  Speaker 1: jewelry to buy the plane ticket to Peru. She had
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  Speaker 1: kept that ring because it meant something. She had never
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  Speaker 1: taken it off. Commander Elvis Baños, Belvedere of the Peruvian
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  Speaker 1: National Police, confirmed the identification based on the ring. Cross-referenced
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  Speaker 1: with photographs, the family provided. The family had known before
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  Speaker 1: the DNA samples were even collected. DNA swabs were taken
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  Speaker 1: from Blanca's sisters, Maria Alejandra and Perla. On November 17th,
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  Speaker 1: dental records and the tattoos visible on the torso would
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  Speaker 1: later add confirmation. But the ring had already told them
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  Speaker 1: everything they needed to know. That was the object Blanca
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  Speaker 1: chose to keep when she let go of everything else.
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  Speaker 1: It became the only way to bring her home. The
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  Speaker 1: investigation pivoted immediately. Police had a body, they had a location.
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  Speaker 1: They needed a name attached to the last known address.
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  Speaker 1: Blanca had been staying in a rented room in Huacho,
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  Speaker 1: the same coastal city where Juan Pablo Villafuerte Pinto attended university.
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  Speaker 1: Officers went to the room on November 15th. What they
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  Speaker 1: found inside changed the shape of the entire investigation. The
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  Speaker 1: room still had Blanca's luggage. Her clothes were folded and
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  Speaker 1: stored as if she had stepped out and planned to return.
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  Speaker 1: A small Mexican flag, the kind a person carries to
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  Speaker 1: feel close to home, was still there. Long strands of
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  Speaker 1: female hair were found on surfaces throughout the space, but
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  Speaker 1: the room had been cleaned, thoroughly, deliberately cleaned, and cleaning
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  Speaker 1: of that kind does not erase everything. Forensic technicians applied luminol,
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  Speaker 1: A chemical that reacts with traces of blood invisible to
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  Speaker 1: the naked eye. The colcane that reacts with traces of
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  Speaker 1: blood invisible to the naked eye. The colcane lit up.
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  Speaker 1: The walls lit up. The bathroom lit up. Blood had
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  Speaker 1: been present throughout the room in quantities and distribution patterns
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  Speaker 1: that indicated the crime had happened there. In that space
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  Speaker 1: where Blanca had been living, a university jacket belonging to
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  Speaker 1: Juan Pablo was still hanging in the room. His name
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  Speaker 1: was on it. Investigators pulled security footage from a shopping
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  Speaker 1: mall in Huacho and found Juan Pablo on camera on
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  Speaker 1: November 8th, the day before the fishermen found the first remains,
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  Speaker 1: purchasing cleaning products. He had been absent from his university
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  Speaker 1: classes from November 7th through November 9th. three days gone
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  Speaker 1: from his academic routine. Three days that aligned precisely with
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  Speaker 1: what the forensic evidence suggested about when Blanca died. Then
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  Speaker 1: came the detail that made the rational sequence stop working entirely.
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  Speaker 1: A neighbor who ran a small store near Blanca's room
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that on November 5th, four days before the body
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  Speaker 1: was found, she had processed a purchase by mobile payment
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  Speaker 1: application on Pablo, and another man had bought eight trash
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  Speaker 1: bags Two packs of cigarettes and cookies. The neighbor remembered
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  Speaker 1: because the payment went through under a registered name. That
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  Speaker 1: name belonged to Edson M. Flores Obregon, a classmate of
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  Speaker 1: Juan Pablo's at the university, the owner of a Bajaj motorcycle.
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  Speaker 1: Eight trash bags. Not one, or two. Eight. The purchase
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  Speaker 1: had been made before any confirmed evidence of violence, before
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  Speaker 1: the luminol result, before any of it. The supplies were
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  Speaker 1: acquired before the room needed to be cleaned, which meant
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  Speaker 1: someone had anticipated. needing them. Every investigator working the case
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  Speaker 1: understood what that suggested, and what it suggested was not
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  Speaker 1: an act of sudden, uncontrolled violence. It pointed to something
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  Speaker 1: that had been thought through. When Juan Pablo was captured
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  Speaker 1: on November 17th in San Juan de la Regancia, the
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  Speaker 1: address he had given Blanca, where he claimed to live,
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  Speaker 1: where he had told her his life was centered, turned
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  Speaker 1: out to be fiction. His actual registered address in the
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  Speaker 1: electoral roll was San Juan de Miraflores, not Huacho, not
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  Speaker 1: anywhere near the university town where he had arranged for
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  Speaker 1: her to stay. He had a lawyer present immediately, Roberto
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  Speaker 1: Amoya Juan Pablo exercised his right to silence in the
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  Speaker 1: first interrogatory on November 14th, but surrendered his mobile phone.
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  Speaker 1: On camera, when questioned informally by journalists outside police custody,
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  Speaker 1: he called Blanca an acquaintance, then he called her a friend. Then,
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  Speaker 1: in a statement that investigators and Blanca's family would not forget.
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  Speaker 1: He called her an indigent, the man who had spent
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  Speaker 1: months building an online relationship with a woman who had
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  Speaker 1: received money and gifts from her, who had watched her
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  Speaker 1: sell everything she owned to travel to his country and
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  Speaker 1: his city, referred to her as a stranger. With no
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  Speaker 1: fixed home, a letter was found on the laptop seized
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  Speaker 1: during his arrest. It was addressed to no one in
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  Speaker 1: particular and read as a farewell. He wrote that someone
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  Speaker 1: had ruined his life. He wrote that life was no
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  Speaker 1: longer worth living under those circumstances. He did not name Blanca.
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  Speaker 1: He did not name what he had done. He framed
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  Speaker 1: himself as the victim of events that had destroyed his future.
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  Speaker 1: His brother was a twin, identical or nearly so. The
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  Speaker 1: defense would eventually circle around questions of identity, of certainty,
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  Speaker 1: of whether the right man had been charged. But Juan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo had tattoos on his left arm, documented by police
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  Speaker 1: at the moment of arrest. His twin did not. The
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  Speaker 1: question collapsed before it could become an argument. Two brothers
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  Speaker 1: who were also police officers completed the picture of a family,
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  Speaker 1: embedded in exactly the institutions that were now pursuing him.
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  Speaker 1: That detail appeared in reports without resolution. No one has
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  Speaker 1: explained publicly what that proximity meant for the early days
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  Speaker 1: of the investigation. The prosecution assembled a minimum of 60
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  Speaker 1: elements of conviction. Fiscal Marcos Colantes formalized charges on three counts. Feminicide,
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  Speaker 1: human trafficking, and organ trafficking. The organ trafficking charge carried
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  Speaker 1: the highest public attention and the loudest questions. Vital organs
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  Speaker 1: had been removed from the torso. That was confirmed. Juan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo was a medical student with anatomical knowledge. That was confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: He had posted videos of human organs, hearts, livers, kidneys
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  Speaker 1: on his social media accounts. According to subsequent journalistic investigation,
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  Speaker 1: that was confirmed. What was not confirmed was where the
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  Speaker 1: organs went. Judge Renee Ulguin. in the sentence delivered on
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  Speaker 1: September 12th, 2023, found Juan Pablo Villafuera Pinto guilty of feminicide.
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  Speaker 1: The organ trafficking charge was dismissed for insufficient evidence, not
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  Speaker 1: because the organs had not been removed, not because Juan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo lacked the knowledge to remove them, but because the
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  Speaker 1: prosecution could not prove the organs had moved through any
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  Speaker 1: network or been received by any party. The chain between
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  Speaker 1: extraction and commerce was broken, legally, by the absence of
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  Speaker 1: a traceable transaction. 35 years. That was the sentence. A
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  Speaker 1: reparation of 50,000 Peruvian souls. Roughly 5,350 US dollars was
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  Speaker 1: ordered for the family. The motive, as determined by the judge,
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  Speaker 1: was this. Juan Pablo had begun a parallel relationship with
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  Speaker 1: another woman. through a dating application. While Blanca was living
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  Speaker 1: in Huacho, he had decided to end the situation. Carmen
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  Speaker 1: Marilyn Castillo Jimenez, 26 years old, had known Juan Pablo
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  Speaker 1: for approximately one month when police found him sheltering in
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  Speaker 1: a room she had rented. She knew he was a fugitive.
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  Speaker 1: She was released after questioning. Blanca had traveled across an
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  Speaker 1: ocean for someone who, while she was alive and present
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  Speaker 1: and waiting, had already moved on, the decision to remove
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  Speaker 1: her from the situation entirely had been made according to
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  Speaker 1: the court. Not because of what she was worth, but
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  Speaker 1: because of what she had become, an obstacle. Edson Flores Obregon,
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  Speaker 1: the man whose payment application confirmed the purchase of eight
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  Speaker 1: trash bags four days before the body was discovered, was
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  Speaker 1: summoned to the prosecutor's office. His legal process had not
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  Speaker 1: reached a public resolution. By the time the transcript of
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  Speaker 1: this investigation was compiled, his twin brother gave a statement
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  Speaker 1: defending his sibling's innocence. The remains of Blanca Olivia Arellano
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  Speaker 1: Gutierrez were cremated and repatriated to Mexico in February of 2023.
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  Speaker 1: Her family received what could be returned. The silver ring
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  Speaker 1: was already gone by then. Not lost, but used. It
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  Speaker 1: had done what it was kept to do. It had
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  Speaker 1: brought her name back when everything else had been taken away.
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  Speaker 1: Juan Pablo Villafuerte Pinto was sentenced on September 12th, 2023.
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  Speaker 1: 35 years for feminicide. The charge of organ trafficking was dismissed.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Rene Olguin ruled, There was insufficient evidence of a
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  Speaker 1: completed transaction. The organs had been extracted. They simply could
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  Speaker 1: not be traced to a buyer. That distinction matters in
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  Speaker 1: ways the law did not intend. It means the most
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  Speaker 1: disturbing question the case raised. Whether Blanca had been brought
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  Speaker 1: to Peru specifically to be killed was never answered with
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  Speaker 1: legal certainty. The court found a motive. Juan Pablo had
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  Speaker 1: started a parallel relationship through a dating and decided Blanca
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  Speaker 1: had become an obstacle. A woman he had once called
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  Speaker 1: his partner. A woman he described to investigators as an acquaintance.
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  Speaker 1: An indigent, he said. That was the word he chose.
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  Speaker 1: The farewell letter found on his seized laptop did not
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  Speaker 1: express guilt. It said his life had been ruined. It
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  Speaker 1: said life wasn't worth living this way. There was no
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  Speaker 1: mention of Blanca by name. The family received 50,000 Peruvian
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  Speaker 1: souls in civil reparations at the exchange rate that year,
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  Speaker 1: that translated to roughly 5,350 US dollars. For the life
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  Speaker 1: of Blanca, Olivia Aureliano Gutierrez, her degree, her years as
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  Speaker 1: a taxi driver, during the pandemic, her gaming streams, the
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  Speaker 1: community she had built online, the silver ring she had
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  Speaker 1: kept when she sold everything else, the court assigned that number,
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  Speaker 1: Edson Emma Flores Obregón, The classmate, who had accompanied Juan
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  Speaker 1: Pablo to buy eight trash bags on the 5th of November,
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  Speaker 1: was summoned to the prosecutor's office. His own legal process
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  Speaker 1: remained unresolved at the time this case was last documented.
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  Speaker 1: He had been there. The payment application confirmed it. What
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  Speaker 1: he knew or did not know about what those bags
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  Speaker 1: were has not been publicly established. Carmen Marilyn Castillo Jimenez
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  Speaker 1: 26 years old who had sheltered Juan Pablo for nearly
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  Speaker 1: a month while knowing he was a fugitive, was released
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  Speaker 1: after questioning. The record does not show a charge filed
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  Speaker 1: against her. The gaming community that had formed around Blanca's dreams,
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  Speaker 1: the one her niece Carla had helped build, the one
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  Speaker 1: that had organized the initial search when Blanca went silent,
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  Speaker 1: continued to document the case after the sentence. Carla had
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  Speaker 1: been the one speaking to media, the one translating the
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  Speaker 1: family's grief into public pressure across platforms. After September 2023,
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  Speaker 1: the family's public statements shifted, not toward peace, exactly, toward
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  Speaker 1: a different kind of vigilance. Blanca's remains had been cremated
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  Speaker 1: in February of 2023, eight months before the sentence was delivered.
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  Speaker 1: Her ashes were repatriated to Mexico. She had left Mexico
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  Speaker 1: City in July of 2022 with a suitcase, a gaming setup,
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  Speaker 1: and a silver ring she refused to sell. She came
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  Speaker 1: home in an urn. The DNA confirmation, the dental records,
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  Speaker 1: The tattoos on the recovered torso, all were sought after
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  Speaker 1: the family, had already identified her by that ring. Commander
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  Speaker 1: Elvis Banyos Valverde of the PNP had confirmed it. The
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  Speaker 1: ring in the photographs matched the ring on the hand
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  Speaker 1: found at Chirillo's Beach. On the morning of November 9th,
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  Speaker 1: the family knew before the laboratory did. There is something
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  Speaker 1: in that sequence that resists comfort. The object Blanca had
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  Speaker 1: chosen to keep. Not the car, not the bicycle, not
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  Speaker 1: the other jewelry, was the one piece of evidence that
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  Speaker 1: made her body recognizable when nothing else could. When I
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  Speaker 1: first traced that detail in the case file, I had
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  Speaker 1: to sit with it for a moment before continuing. The
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  Speaker 1: ring was not incidental. It was the last thing she chose,
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  Speaker 1: and the first thing that brought her home. The last
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  Speaker 1: confirmed image of Blanca alive. is the video call recorded
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  Speaker 1: by her friend Mercedes Gaetan. In it, Blanca wipes tears
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  Speaker 1: from her face. They are tears of happiness, captured by
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  Speaker 1: someone who loved her, preserved by chance. That call happened
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  Speaker 1: sometime before November 6th, 2022, her last post on social media.
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  Speaker 1: Three days later, fishermen walking Chirilo's beach at dawn found
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  Speaker 1: a hand, then a head. The following morning, a torso
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  Speaker 1: near an irrigation canal, organs removed, fingertips gone, the face unreadable.
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  Speaker 1: Juan Pablo had studied how the body works, he used
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  Speaker 1: that knowledge with precision. He is currently serving his sentence
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  Speaker 1: at the Huacho prison, a sane city, where Blanca had
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  Speaker 1: rented a room, where she had set up her gaming equipment,
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  Speaker 1: where she had believed she was building something new. The
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  Speaker 1: irony is geographic and exact. 35 years is the number
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  Speaker 1: the Peruvian justice system assigned. His twin brother, the one
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  Speaker 1: with a law degree, had argued the case involved mistaken identity.
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  Speaker 1: The tattoos on Juan Pablo's left arm had made that
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  Speaker 1: argument impossible before it was fully spoken. Blanca sold her car.
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  Speaker 1: She sold her bicycle. She sold her jewelry. She kept
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  Speaker 1: one ring, silver, personal. She wore it on the flight
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  Speaker 1: that landed in Lima at 2.45 in the morning on
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  Speaker 1: July 28th, 2022. She was 51 years old. She had
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  Speaker 1: reinvented herself twice. Once after the pandemic took her livelihood.
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  Speaker 1: Once when an online community gave her something that looked
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  Speaker 1: like belonging. She never sent a final message home. The
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  Speaker 1: last word her family received from her was the 6th
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  Speaker 1: of November. After that, silence. And then the ring. On
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  Speaker 1: a beach. In the hands of strangers who did not
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  Speaker 1: yet know whose it was. The ring came home. Blanca
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  Speaker 1: came home, and somewhere in Huacho, in the same city
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  Speaker 1: where she had once been alive, unhappy in streaming her
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  Speaker 1: games into the night, the man who killed her wakes
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  Speaker 1: up every morning inside a sentence that will not end
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  Speaker 1: until he is an old man. That is not the
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  Speaker 1: same thing as an answer. It never is. This show
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