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HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 5 · In the Locker Room presented by Neighborhood Ford Store (Pittsburgh Steelers)

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  Speaker 2: Well Welcome inside the locker room here at Saint Vincent
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  Speaker 2: Collegen with Trope, where we are watching the tail end
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  Speaker 2: of practice, second straight time we've done the show and
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  Speaker 2: been able to watch some practice here.
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  Speaker 3: Max starkson, Yeah, this is a good, good omen because
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  Speaker 3: we're still an acclamation period, right, so it's still only
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and five minutes in those counting at home, that's.
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  Speaker 4: An hour and forty five minutes if you were wondering.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's not allowed to be the full two
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  Speaker 3: plus hour practice. So we're today and tomorrow our last
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  Speaker 3: two of that but we did get pads today, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and so therefore.
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  Speaker 4: There was some more physicality.
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  Speaker 3: I can say pats were clapping because I didn't hear
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  Speaker 3: pads clapping because there were no drills to where the
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  Speaker 3: pads could be clapping. I expected it to be like
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  Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday leading up to Saturday. But still very
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  Speaker 3: good to see the intensity ratchet up again.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see have you seen anybody here or watching
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers flip went out to rereco doubtle during a
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  Speaker 2: drill in which the pocket was being collapsed a little bit. Anybody, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're running a little two minute drill here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a two minute drill. This is the
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  Speaker 3: team drill for the end of practice today. So this
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  Speaker 3: is exciting. So it's good action.
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  Speaker 2: Some pass rush coming? Oh what Aaron Rodgers dark? Beautiful?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely if if you didn't know any of these quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: and Jabell Dean was in pretty good coverage here too.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you don't know any of these quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking and you don't know their ages or anything.
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  Speaker 2: And again, they don't have the names on the jerseys here,
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  Speaker 2: just the numbers. You look at that guy and say,
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  Speaker 2: who's that guy. That guy's the best one. I mean
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  Speaker 2: still with this age Aaron Rodgers. The ball comes out great,
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  Speaker 2: it's on the money, and he was messing around flipping
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  Speaker 2: one underhand when they were throwing it into the net, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, right into the pocket, just you know,
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  Speaker 2: having fun out there. But also just the way the
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  Speaker 2: ball comes out of his hand is really remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: Still oh still, absolutely, you know, one of the best
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  Speaker 3: that can do it. And that's why he's still out here,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why he is who who he is twenty
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  Speaker 3: one years in this league. The guy can go with
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  Speaker 3: the best of them. And if you took the numbers
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  Speaker 3: off with the jerseys and just lined them up right,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you'd be like, boom,
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  Speaker 3: there he is, like eight or whoever that guy shirt
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  Speaker 3: guy with the black cleats on all black cleats that
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  Speaker 3: you know now we're going by cleats.
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  Speaker 4: I like that guy for what he does.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's what really makes you know a
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  Speaker 3: star quarterback, a star quarterback is that he stands alone
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  Speaker 3: even when things are anonymous. Right, you just compare them
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  Speaker 3: apples to apples, don't give them a number, don't give
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  Speaker 3: them a resume.
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  Speaker 4: Or anything. You just let them go out there and ball.
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  Speaker 3: And he's a guy that you would still pick out
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  Speaker 3: of this group before.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And it's going to be you know, we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to talk a lot about personnel groupings and other things.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the tight end position.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that you know, I was talking about
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  Speaker 2: this with with Matt Williamson before practices or during practice
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  Speaker 2: as well, the earlier portions of practice. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: have you're talking about the receiving group. You have two
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  Speaker 2: tight ends who are making a lot of money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I would expect to see both those tight ends
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  Speaker 2: out in the field of a lot. You have three
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  Speaker 2: outside linebackers making a lot of money. I would expect
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  Speaker 2: to see all those three guys out there, not to
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  Speaker 2: justify their salaries. Again, I just want to make this clear.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't about oh, we got to play him because
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  Speaker 2: we paid him. No, you paid them because you want
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  Speaker 2: to play them.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and they're good enough that they should be on
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  Speaker 3: the field, right, that's right. You paid them starter money,
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  Speaker 3: so of course because you believe they're a starter, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So just simply living up to the expectations more so
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  Speaker 3: than trying to justify it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right there. This isn't about justification. Again, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've said this a couple of times. If you if
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  Speaker 2: you want to know what a team thinks about a player,
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  Speaker 2: you know when at a certain point in a guy's career,
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  Speaker 2: look at what they're paying them or or look at
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  Speaker 2: what they invested to get him. We picked him in
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  Speaker 2: the first round. Therefore we think he's good. Therefore we're
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  Speaker 2: going to play him.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: And again we've we talked about this yesterday at length
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  Speaker 2: or the last last show a couple of days ago,
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  Speaker 2: a length that that doesn't mean a guy hasn't come
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere and you don't play him. There's room
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  Speaker 2: for a Willie Parker, there's room for a James Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: there's room for a Donnie Shall. It's been something Warren,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren. Absolutely, there's there are places for those guys
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  Speaker 2: on the Steers hierarchy. But again it's just it just
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  Speaker 2: shows you what they what they think about a player.
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  Speaker 2: A leaping grab, Oh, Roman Wilson did not couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: the second foot down and get that second foot down.
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  Speaker 2: There was a tremendous grab. Leaping grab in the back
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  Speaker 2: of the end zone. I don't know whether he could
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  Speaker 2: have gotten the other foot down. He was spinning and tapped.
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  Speaker 3: The right foot, just that left foot was still swinging
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  Speaker 3: when he stepped out of bound. So I mean, that
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  Speaker 3: would have been a really tough one on his body
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  Speaker 3: positioning to have gotten it there. But once again, when
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  Speaker 3: you're paid and drafted third round, you gotta you gotta
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  Speaker 3: make that happen.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, that's what you're trying to do exactly, kind
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  Speaker 2: of show them that justification.
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  Speaker 4: Justification. That's all it is.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when we're talking about and right now they're
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  Speaker 2: running a play from inside the eight yard line. I
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  Speaker 2: think I think they're gonna call this second. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see the dawn us up on the scoreboard twenty three
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  Speaker 2: seconds left the second and goal, second and goal. See
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  Speaker 2: the little stick down here, but you wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 2: to see the stick from it. I didn't see it
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  Speaker 2: went for Roman again, this time overthrown a little bit
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  Speaker 2: by Rogers. Even that just throw that corner rout. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: it all looked good, It looked good, look good. But
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  Speaker 2: once again third down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it started down, so zero style points.
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  Speaker 2: I wish there were you know we were talking about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mike McCarthy yesterday, we talked about the personnel
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  Speaker 2: groupings and how much the Steelers used twelve and thirteen personnel.
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  Speaker 2: That's two or three tight ends out in the field.
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  Speaker 2: How much Mike McCarthy in his last year in Dallas
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  Speaker 2: used eleven personnel. That was seventy percent of the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's only one tight end, one running back, one tight
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  Speaker 2: end out there, empty set here for Aaron Rodgers. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, pump faking throwing and intercepted, picked off Jakwan Brisker,
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  Speaker 2: I believe in the corner of the end zone. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not Brisker. That somebody with a single digit number.
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe it's Patrick Queen dropped back there. You
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  Speaker 2: know when I become president, Jalen Ramsey, when I when
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  Speaker 2: I become president. So these are one of those things
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  Speaker 2: like the players roll up their jerseys and you can't
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  Speaker 2: see their numbers, and you know who that arms? Arms
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  Speaker 2: play by play guys, color guys, fans who don't know
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  Speaker 2: who it is. Yeah, illegal, when I become president. Illegal,
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Queen's Patrick Queen. It had to be, Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: had to be because that rolled up and uh, he said.
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  Speaker 3: Because Jalen Ramsey queen was again, Jalen Ramsey is not
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  Speaker 3: practicing the Kawan brisker would have been your next one.
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  Speaker 3: And Mason Rudolph and DK Metcalf have different color jerseys. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: so not going to be able to and then Chris
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  Speaker 3: Boswell doesn't participate in those things.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers threw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, only that's all of our single digit number opportunities, right,
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  Speaker 3: There only.
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  Speaker 2: So many of those to go around, for sure. And
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  Speaker 2: now the second team is going to get their opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to run the ball down the field here. But you
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  Speaker 2: know when when you're looking at you know, when you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the how they're going to utilize the receiving group.
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  Speaker 2: And you have Roman Wilson, and you have Jeremy Bernard,
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  Speaker 2: and you have a coach who has a history of
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  Speaker 2: it's a Howard here.
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  Speaker 4: Howard getting the number two reps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, drill.
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  Speaker 3: So I just wanted to point that out because that
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  Speaker 3: is significant because normally it's Mason Rudolph.
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  Speaker 2: So sorry, right, they know what he can do. It'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting again we talk about what they're going to
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  Speaker 2: do in the preseason. But I just think that if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to try to use those two tight ends,
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  Speaker 2: that's twelve personnel. That usually means, unless of course you
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  Speaker 2: go empty set, you're only going to have two receivers. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they got Metcalf and they got Pittman, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: think those guys are coming off the field very often.
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  Speaker 2: So how they're going to utilize the other guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Bernard, Roman Wilson will be extremely interesting. And I
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  Speaker 2: think those guys are in positions. The great part.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Pittman's running here with the two just make so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So you talk about that versatility and trying to have
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  Speaker 3: professional wide receivers out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other part that is the part that's good
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  Speaker 2: for the Steelers is say a Jeremy Bernard, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a rookie. You don't have to thrust him into action.
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  Speaker 2: You can bring him along slowly.
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  Speaker 3: But and he can be more interchangeable than needing to
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  Speaker 3: be a necessity in that group, right because he is
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  Speaker 3: you know, he has the body type of an X
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  Speaker 3: and and Z.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, and we we kind of talked about
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  Speaker 4: this last week.
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  Speaker 3: Big big trips, little trips, right, big eleven, Little eleven,
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  Speaker 3: you could have that, whereas if you if you want
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  Speaker 3: to insert him in, you can insert him in alongside.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't necessarily have to be a replacement of but
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  Speaker 3: he can. He can change his versatility and doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: to be thrust into a starting role right out the
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  Speaker 3: gates because of you know, the luxury you have of
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  Speaker 3: having multiple wide.
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  Speaker 2: Receivers exactly, and then the other guys, excuse me, earn
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  Speaker 2: a position that you want guys to be in a
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  Speaker 2: position of, and that is earn it. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 2: what you want to play more, I'm not going to do.
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  Speaker 2: I have the luxury of having two tight ends that
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  Speaker 2: I feel really good about. Again, just look at what
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  Speaker 2: you're what the team thinks about these guys, because they've
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  Speaker 2: got big salaries. That doesn't Again, well I don't have
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  Speaker 2: to say this again. I don't have to say this
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  Speaker 2: a thousand times. They're gonna play at Firemouth and Darnel
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  Speaker 2: Washington are gonna play. So if you want to get
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  Speaker 2: into that rotation, you've got to earn it. They're not
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  Speaker 2: casting around looking for boy who's gonna be our fourth receiver. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, you may not need it, right and
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  Speaker 2: if you don't earn it, we've got other personnel, maybe
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  Speaker 2: not exactly you know, the body types or whatever you'd
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  Speaker 2: think of in four wides or what have you. But okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'll scheme it up a little bit differently and and
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  Speaker 2: we'll go with those guys. So I like that because
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  Speaker 2: it creates competition internally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, nobody is assured anything except Aaron Rodgers. That's
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 2: He's starting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is starting Cam Hey, we're starting TJ. Watts
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  Speaker 3: starting outside of that, Like, this is a competition. This
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  Speaker 3: is a brand new slate for a lot of guys.
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  Speaker 3: We talk about Roman Wilson, right because Roman, you know,
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  Speaker 3: fell out of favor with the previous staff. But now
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  Speaker 3: you get to reinvent yourself, right, So you got to
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  Speaker 3: take advantage of those opportunities and for new guys coming
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  Speaker 3: into coming in here.
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  Speaker 4: I get to create a role for myself. Caleb Johnson,
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  Speaker 4: nobody owes him anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he did have an opportunity and he was drafted,
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  Speaker 3: but Mike McCarthy's staff didn't draft, right, guess what, You've
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  Speaker 3: got to go earn that other role. You're competing with
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Warren and Rico Della. But you're competing with Travis
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  Speaker 3: Homer eating Eli heyden Reich, right, even Nowakowski and Lou Nichols.
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  Speaker 3: You you've got to go in there and prove your
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  Speaker 3: dominance as as a guy who's going to be counted
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  Speaker 3: in amongst the crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, Bernard made a nice catch.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Bernard made a nice catch along the sideline a
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  Speaker 2: well delivered a ball by Will Howard as well. It's
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  Speaker 2: thirty two seconds in counting as they've taken the ball
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  Speaker 2: to the thirty six yard line here and a deflective
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  Speaker 2: ball up the line of scrimmage with Howard trying to
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  Speaker 2: get one out there. But it is is that little Bruner.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see who deflected it. I was looking at
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  Speaker 2: the offense.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I was wondering if that was Carson's out there,
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  Speaker 3: Carson Castro.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that was Carson.
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  Speaker 3: That was Carson that was out there, I say, and
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  Speaker 3: I say, I say, little Bruner, I apologize. I'm like
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  Speaker 3: because I know his dad, right, and I'm in the
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  Speaker 3: era when his dad played. So I see Carson. Carson
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  Speaker 3: was a young man, but Carson's an adult. So Carson
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  Speaker 3: Bruner number forty four was out there on coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. So and again some of the interesting personnel groupings
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  Speaker 2: that I think we're going to see contestant at Perry
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  Speaker 2: and flag Dale and ever. But they're gonna get daling
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  Speaker 2: for pass interference.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lag came out, saw the saw the referee on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline through it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So that'll give us twenty one second to the ball,
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  Speaker 2: probably inside the fifteen yard line. This is fun. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really enjoying watching watching these guys go at it. So
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  Speaker 2: I just I do think though, Max, that like you said,
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  Speaker 2: so okay, So Caleb Johnson and Roman Wilson, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the in spring ball they were blinking, you know why,
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  Speaker 2: because they were coming out of the doghouse and they
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  Speaker 2: were seeing some light out there. But by the same token,
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  Speaker 2: you know, new staff. They aren't former third round picks. Nope,
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  Speaker 2: They're just guys. They're guys with an opportunity, just like
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  Speaker 2: everybody else. And to some degree, you know what, And
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  Speaker 2: again I don't know what the sliding scale would be
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  Speaker 2: a third round draft choice from another regime versus a
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  Speaker 2: seventh round draft choice from our regime. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where the.
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  Speaker 4: What's the quantifiable, right, what's the value add here?
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  Speaker 2: A seventh rounder for US equels a third rounder for
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  Speaker 2: somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how they're you'd like to think that
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  Speaker 2: again that you know what, what did Mike Tomlin call
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  Speaker 2: the opponent? Name was gray faces? But there's something to
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  Speaker 2: that when a new staff comes in and are they're
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  Speaker 2: evaluating guys and so if you're a if, especially now
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  Speaker 2: in this year, if you're a receiver like a Joaquin
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  Speaker 2: Davis who came in had some time with Denver athletic
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  Speaker 2: freak at Perry I think was a former draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: He's a tall, rangy guy. You know, listen, you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, I want to be one of your
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  Speaker 2: five or six receivers, and so I've got a chance now, right,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a chance to be that guy because I've
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  Speaker 2: got a clean slate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no favoritism, right, there are no favoritism that's being played.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's getting an equal look at it. And then I
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  Speaker 3: also think because of how much work they get early
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  Speaker 3: in that practice, when they have two fields going at
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  Speaker 3: the same pace at the same time, getting the same
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  Speaker 3: amount of plays, that gives you just a better opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: The more reps you get out there to put yourself
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  Speaker 3: on tape, the better opportunity it is for you to
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  Speaker 3: make yourself visible and make yourself known to the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: It's not falling into obscurity because you got two reps
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  Speaker 3: with the fourth string quarterback who knows he's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be here right. Yes, you're not getting the Chris
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  Speaker 3: O Lulakin and the John Rice plumb Lee snaps. You're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get an opportunity to have Will Howard, Drew Aller,
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  Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph and Aaron Rodgers throw you a pass potentially.
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  Speaker 2: And you know I will also say this Max. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy watched a ton of Steelers tape. He watched
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  Speaker 2: a ton of Steelers tape before he got interviewed by
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  Speaker 2: the team. You know, he wanted to know about this team.
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  Speaker 2: And he did know about this team, and he talked
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  Speaker 2: about it as introductory press conference. This is not a
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  Speaker 2: bare cupboard I'm walking into. This is a very good team.
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  Speaker 2: I'm walking into a team that's got talent and my
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  Speaker 2: goal is to put a seventh Lombardi Trophy on the
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  Speaker 2: on the shelves over there at the Steelers facility. So
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  Speaker 2: there is you know, there's gonna be some preconceived notion
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  Speaker 2: of who can play and who can and then you
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: have communications with the front office staff. Hey, what'd you
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: see in this guy when you selected him. I'm sure
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: these are conversations that are happening, but it's not the same.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think as a staff that's been around these
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: guys for one, two, read for seven, eight, fourteen years,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. I think as time goes on,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: you know, the as the staff you know, huddles together
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: after this year, they might say, okay, well listen, we'd
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: like to keep this guy we lost in free and
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: see we got a hole. Here's a guy over here.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: He was on our roster last year, and I'd like
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: to try to replace him, you know what I mean.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Those are the things I think when you're around a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: team more often over the course of the year, you're
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: gonna have more of those, call them preconceived notions, but
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: also call them educated opinions on guys too well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: And we already saw that. So we did have one
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: move that's we're.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Gonna get to that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying, So they're already starting to gain
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: what they're looking for.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: So to your.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Point, sometimes sometimes it comes a little bit quicker than others,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: but for the most part, that is how you need
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: to do it, because they're trying. They're in the world
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: of now, and as you see with Mike McCarthy and
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: how he likes to run things he doesn't want if
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: he can stave off waiting as much as possible and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: get to it immediately, that's why I think you have
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: all these reps out here, because you also need to
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: expose guys to figure out who's bluffing and who's who's
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: really real, so we can actually give guys legitimate opportunities
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: to make this team.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you underwent a coaching staff change right here for
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Bill Cower and there for Mike Tom and we're gonna
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: risk running a little late unless you would like to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: dive into that after the bis.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Let's do it after this, okay, because it's gonna take
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: a little bit of time to get the get the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: therapy couch.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: In here, and let's talk about it. So we have
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a we have a roster move to tell you about
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: for the Steelers, and it's not insignificant. We're going to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: get to that, and Max is going to tell you
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: what these guys are facing. We're looking at these guys now,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: they're they're breaking down into little position groups. You're doing
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: some post practice work. Max is opening up the window.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether that's to get rid of the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: fly er it is to get the ambients. Okay, I
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: thought it was ambience. I just I think I think
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I just killed the Okay, that's windows closed again. So
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: so we got the jugs machines going. We have guys
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: running more patterns. We have offensive linemen working with each
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: other on drops and other things. So some still some
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: cool stuff happening here on the field at Saint Vincent College.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Max is going to talk about what he just said
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: as far as a new coach and what that means. Also,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: we'll tell you about that personnel moved Steelers made when
• 18:08
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  Speaker 2: It and welcome back inside the locker room. As we
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: see the players sort of dissipating some of this guy's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: still out there. Roland Wilson loves running around in his
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: bare feet by the way out here camp, you never
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: noticed that. Yeah he's got a shirt on today he's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: running around, but just just his pants on and uh
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: like he's out in the backyard.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he realized that today.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: With all of the uh you know, extra padding that
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: he had to wear today, It's like, yeah, that farmers
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: hands is starting to grow a little bit more bolder.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: So you want to cry and create a contrast.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Right yep. So let's talk before we get to the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: roster move the Steelers made. Let's get to what it's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like to undergo a coaching change, and so I'm trying
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: to remember who the the absolute star players were. Ben Roethlisberger,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Troy Paula Malins still on those teams.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Troy Paulamalu, Allen Panica, right, unaffected, Joey Porter largely unaffected.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Jehan's gonna happen with those guys. No never,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Mike Tomlin's gonna walk in and say thank you, right,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: thank you for for a line you'd inherit these guys.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: So for you for some other guys, uh, you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: maybe a little more uncertainty, What was it like?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know it's nerve wracking because you
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: didn't know who was going to be the head coach.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: You'd heard conflicting stories where there's gonna be Russ Grimm,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: kN wizen Hunt and Mike Tomlin. Right, there were there
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: was three coaches in that kind of final mix, two
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: of those currently on the staff, and then of course
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, uh being the young hot coach and out
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of Minnesota uh and a one year defensive coordinator. So
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you're like, man, okay, well you know who's it going
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to be?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And then finally.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Decisions made and you know, you go on the facility,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and you're like, You're like, who and who's he gonna bring?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Who's he going to keep? Right as far as on
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff that I'm going to be familiar with,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and for Mike Tomlin coming in, you know, he did
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: keep a lot of the guys that we knew. The
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: entire deffensive staff was intact.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say it would probably be a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: little bit easier transition for those guys because you know, look,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take anything away from anybody, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and they're coaching acumen and abilities. But when you have
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: when you have your guy right at defensive coordinator, that's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, right.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: It's almost both.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a second head coach, but it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: probably not far away from saying we're gonna you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Dick lebou has you know, you got a lot of input,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Dickie got a lot of say you know, there's some
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: continuity here for the defensive side of the ball.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was pretty much, Hey, coach lebow that's
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: your side of the ball, all right, Hey, hey, keep
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: doing what you were doing, because literally there was no
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: change there, right, you know, it was all right. You know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: you go ahead, do what you need to do, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: there'll be some subtle changes offensive because obviously you did
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: have the departure.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: We'll have a new special.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Teams coach that comes in because when Ken wasn't Hunt
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: got the job for the Cardinals, he brought Rusk Grim
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: with him. He brought Kevin Spence with him. He brought
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: a number of coaches on the offense side of the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: ball with him to Arizona, so there was more voids
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and Bruce Arian state of course, and then went from
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: wide receivers coach up to the offensive coordinating position, and uh,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: you know, Dick Hoak retired and so you had a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: couple of changes where there was availability to bring those
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: coaches in. Now insert a Larry Zerline at the offensive
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: line position, and also you bring in a couple of
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: differ Let me ask you a question, Kirby Wilson at
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the running back jobs.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Did the arians ascension? That's kind of
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: nice thelliteration the arians ascension. It sounds like a Robert
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Lovelum book. Did the arians ascension sort of uh ease
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: any of those anxieties players might have had, or is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: there still I suppose, like I said, I you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: if you're Ben Roethlisberger, you got no anxieties. If you're
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Troy Pullamalalo, I mean everybody's got anxieties, but I mean
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you're not worried about boy. Am I gonna get Am
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I gonna get snaps? Uh? Yeah, Troy, you're gonna get snaps. Yes,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Joey you're gonna get snaps. Yes, Alan You're gonna get snaps. Yes,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Ben you're gonna get snaps. How did you feel personally
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and and do you think other guys? You know, I
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: always I think I use the just rough analogy that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: two or three guys are gonna be hurt by a
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: head coaching change, two or three guys are gonna be
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: helped by a head coaching change. As far as actual
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: job some you know, I don't know whether maybe one
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: or two more guys might descend in the in the ranks,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: one or two guys might descend in the ranks but
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: still stay on the team. Is there a rough number
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of guys that were affected? And what is the anxiety
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: level like for a player? Did you feel like you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: were solidified when the coaching change came? H?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I definitely thought I was solidified and then
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: found out I wasn't. So so, I mean there was
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: a false sense of solidarity, okay, But I think the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: biggest thing was it created opportunities for guys Mike James
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Harrison benefited greatly from Mike Tomlin coming in as head
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: coach because it made it easier to allow Clark Haagen's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: to go and then get a James Harrison in there
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and create a more prominent role for himself just as
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: one guy. As I'm thinking about it, like out loud,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, also you're talking about going back twenty years
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to remember that first year, right, and you know some
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: guys you know, had unceremonious exits or some of them
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: they went one year and then the second year is
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: when they got let go. That was also a feeling
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: out because you know, back then also you didn't want
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: to have to overhaul your roster like what we do now,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: like what omar CON's done over the last three years.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: That was unheard of back in two thousand and seven
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: and eight, Right, That was not the way that you
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: did it. It was incremental changes, very small changes. Maybe you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: had a splash here to splash there, but to churn
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: forty five fifty guys on a roster, which is what
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: omar CON's done over the last two years or last
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: three years.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: That's that's something that's crazy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So, like you said, two to three guys is a
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: big shift, and I think I think that's ten percent.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: That's ten percent of your roster.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, you're absolutely right. So so it is
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a is a significant number. And I think there were
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: guys who were hurt and then there were guys who
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: had a little bit more weight when it came to
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the draft picks that like you said, you're talking about
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: last year's you know, last year's third round pick, is
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: he as valuable as this year's seventh round?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: With the news, right, you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Could see that there was more weight put on the
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: guys he was bringing in versus the guys he in here.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And even though you had one to two, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: you had a championship under your belt, and the team
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: that went to two AFC Championship games, it was like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: but it's not my guys, right, So you kept the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: lord they're aging out or a move need to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: made or whatever, and trying to figure out what's the
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: next step for them. But yeah, there were some guys,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and I just the first one that comes to mind
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: is James Harrison as being a guy who had a
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: smaller role with BC and was more a special teams
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: ace that then ascended and really took off once Mike
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Tomlin came again.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, I was thinking in terms
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of guys in the doghouse or whatever, however you want
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to describe. Caleb Johnson and Roman Wilson, for example, two
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: guys that are examples. But there's probably with a team
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: like that. You know, maybe there were a few guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: where Bill Cower and his coaching staff and again I'm
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: just totally surmising here, but said, hey, you know, these
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: guys are war horses. I've been through the battles with
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: these guys for a couple of AFC Championship games and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, and they're reliable. Yeah they've lost a step,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: but man, I know what I've got in them, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and you know there's a bond there that a new
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: coach might come in and say, well, he's lost a step.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Forget all the other I heard. The only the only
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: words I heard out of that sentence were not warhorse,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: been through it. AFCU I heard. The only thing I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: heard was lost a step. So he's got to go
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and I got to bring somebody else in. I hadn't
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: thought about that aspect of it, the comfort and familiarity. Again,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I think of a player like a Connor Heyward.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I think Connor Hayward was really valued for the number
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of different things he could do. Now he left in
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: free agency. But you know, again, is a new coaching
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: staff going to going to value place value on that
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: or are they going to say, listen, instead of a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: guy that can do five things? Well, do I want
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a guy who might have the potential to do one
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: thing at an extraordinary level and can't do the other
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: four things that a guy like Connor could? You just
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: don't know, You don't know, And I would I would
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: think that's a difficult spot for the players because it
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: casts a lot of uncertainty on your livelihood.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: And you even think about like Alan Fanica, did you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Forced out after his first year with.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Tomlin didn't quite you know, it wasn't quite a fit there,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: So then you know, you kind of ease him and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: also let him know, hey, you can you can go elsewhere, right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: you know, free agency is one of those things and
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: kind of equalizes.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: But that's what you also realize is not necessarily.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Where you'll fall out of favor, but you will be
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: helped along the way down the path of losing favor
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: without it being that name.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Right, right, So I guess one of the other one
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of the other things that I would ask, as far
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: as you know, roster construction and and you know, coaching
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: changes and that kind of thing. Maybe this is maybe
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: this happened more in college than the pros, where you
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: have smaller rosters and you have more track records and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and different things with guys. But did you have guys
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: on your team with the Steelers, particularly in that transition
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: period where you thought, I wonder why X isn't playing more?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Or even I wonder why why is playing so much?
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have guys like that or did you
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: could you see see it in field? Okay?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for the sake of.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: All names will be changed, Yeah, that'll be changed.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was there was a couple of guys that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: played similar positions that I definitely was outed.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: How did he get in there?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And well, certainly certainly it affects you, you know, I mean,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you know, look, uh, you know, let's say you're let's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: say you're the backup to a and this is this
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: is the nature of being a competitor, I think, Max.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Let's say you're the backup to uh, you know, a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: great cornerback, right, you know, as the backup you got
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: there and okay, this guy is really great. But you
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: know what, I can do this and this. You know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: if I was out there, I would do just as
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: good a job is that guy's doing. Right, You have
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to think that way. As an athlete. You have to.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: You won't you want you will not have gotten anywhere
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: close to this, right, yeah, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, So he's six' four and runs a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: four three forty and can do a triple reverse dunk
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: on a. Basketball BUT i can do this, exactly AND
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: i could do, this AND i got as good as
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: scoring to get to that. Position you have to think that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Way that guy can't dribble. It you had to give
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: it to.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Him you, know from the three point, line then he's,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Spectacular but who has to bring it two thirds of
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Up but, honestly even if that guy could, dribble you'd
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: still find something that you thought you could do. BETTER
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: i Guess i'm thinking about like other. Positions were you
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: ever like how come that? Cornerback how come that? Linebacker
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: or did your did YOUR i, mean did you have
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: teammates like? That where LIKE i just don't know why
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: he's playing so much or why he isn't playing.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: More oh, YEAH i, Mean AND i kind of hinted
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: at that with that previous one was you'll see and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: you're looking, LIKE i, mean he's all, right but right
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the guy we had in there before him was way.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: BETTER i was, LIKE i get it's probably a contract
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: year or there's something that they're, seeing But i'm not
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: seeing as far as a production, STANDPOINT i hate going
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: against this. GUY i can't wait to go against this.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Guy and if you have an offensive guy saying that
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: about a defensive, guy.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: That's not a good.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Compliment you want the, Reverse you want the guy that
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: everybody hates to see on the opposite side of the
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: ball versus the guy you can't wait to. SEE i,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: mean that's that's left For sundays when you're on the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: sidelines watching that other side of the ball and it happens.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: To be your guys with the same.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Jersey but that was a question because it was, like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: well what are you trying to prove, here because, like
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: this guy's a known, commodity this guy has the, resume
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: and you let that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Guy go or you? Are you?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Are you let that guy sit on the, bench and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: you're promoting something that we're just not seeing. It and
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: as a veteran, team that's something that this crew is going.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Through.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Right you, know you've Had tomlin for a number of
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: years and then you're having this transition With mike McCarthy
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and it's different and the same thing When Bill kauer
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: To Mike.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: TOMLIN i was with Coach kauer for three. Years it was.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Different and then you're trying to figure out.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: What this new coach is and you're also trying to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: balance your, Life LIKE i gotta keep, going is this
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: SOMETHING i can fit?
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Into or?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Not right?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Process BUT i would say that looking at this type
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: of transition and also doesn't happen that helpening In, Pittsburgh.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: That's, right you know What i'm, Saying LIKE i, mean
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: we're talking about.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: This this is only the third changing of the, guards
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: so to, speak and the fourth head, coach, right so
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: three interchanges in.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Between since nineteen sixty.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Nine this isn't The, jets this isn't The, Cardinals this
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: isn't you, know The, browns this isn't The, jaguars where
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: we've seen seven eight head coaches.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: In the last number of. Years you think about fresh
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: set of, eyes, well that fresh set of eyes is
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: replacing somebody who used to have a fresh set of.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Eyes but by the time they're finished the reaching for the,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: cheaters you, know still got those good. Eyes BUT i
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: just you, know all those things are. FACTORS i, think you,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: know who's that player that's not, playing who's that player
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that's in the, Doghouse who's that player that's valued for
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a different, fit whether that is comfort special, teams they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: do something that hey he's he's really good for this,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: game but he's kind of a tween or another, scheme
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: so he's out These it's gonna be it's gonna be
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: interesting to see whether there are whether we're gonna be
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: surprised by roster. Mos, now part of the reason we're
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: talking about this is there's actual like kind of it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: getting more physical today and we're gonna start to see
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the separation and we'll get in through camp and that
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: sort of. THING i just wonder IF i look at
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the roster and, think, boy it doesn't seem to me
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like there's that many positions up for. Grabs but it's
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: also possible that there are more up for grabs than
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: you might think because of fresh, eyes fresh set of.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Eyes maybe guys were, underutilized maybe guys were valued differently
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: in other. Roles and, yes schematics as, well. Exactly, yeah
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: THAT'S i think WHAT i was alluding to. There, hey
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: we want this out of this, position and so that
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: squeezes somebody else out and creates an opportunity for.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Somebody, yeah philosophy and how they go about the same
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: business that we think looks like the same on the.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Outside but there's a certain. REQUIREMENT i, MEAN i have
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to imagine That mike McCarthy has a list of requirements
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: for each, position what he wants to see a value
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: system took a grading metric on how he looks at,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: it and that's just going to be different from what
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: A Mike tomlin looked, at what.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: A Bill cower looked, at A Chuck no looked.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: At AND i think it's gonna be even more detailed
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: than probably a lot of those other guys because he's
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: been around this. Game he's a veteran coach coming into.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: This you have to think about. This the previous three
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: guys had never been head coaches.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: When they came To.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh this guy's come from.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Two other historic.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Franchises, excellent he gets, here, Yep so it's gonna be
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: different because he's seen what the success looks.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Like and, hell he took one of those trophies from.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Us, yeah that's.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Right so if he knew how to beat, us you,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: know he's definitely gonna bring more insight.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: When he joins, us that's. Right. Yeah, SO i mean
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: a younger coach might, say, oh, look red jelly, beans
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: you know, exactly we don't need red jelly. Beans you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: don't forget. That that's you know, whatever, exactly.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: We're yellow only over here.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly that Doesn't, yeah that doesn't. Work red jelly beans
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: don't show up at, uh don't show up for meetings on. Time,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean so whatever whatever you. Need so it's,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: uh you, know it's it's, yeah you're. Right the wizard
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: sort of a veteran look That mike McCarthy, Has, uh
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: that'll be that'll be fun to watch as. Well so.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: LISTEN a lot going, on including the, roster but we
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: haven't gotten To we are going to get to on
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the other side of the break and we continue in
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the locker room here on The Steelers Audio.
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• 36:44
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• 36:46
  Speaker 2: king and we are getting. READY i just talked to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: our esteemed Producer Dan quinlan about you, know during the
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: break about our preparation for the game next. Week, max
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is it here? Already you're?
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Already you.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Know it was funny we were talking about, well, SORRY
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: i was last. NIGHT i was talking to some of
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the scouts because the scouts just got in and they were, like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: man it's. Crazy i'm, like you, Know Labor day getting
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: moved back a full week Into, september whereas normally right
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the, month and therefore moving camp
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: back to the end Of. July, well college still starts on,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: time and there's scouts who are normally here at camp
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: that are now on the road because things are a week,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: later and so it's just it's crazy to.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Think but then you.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Still move up the window for The hall Of fame,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: game which is coming up this, weekend, right and then
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: that's when everybody else will be coming into their opportunities in.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Preseason we'll be starting in earnest next, week so but
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: we will have our first preseason game come This.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Saturday who is The who's in The hall Of?
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Fame maybe this year is?
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: It i'll look it Up saints and Somebody i'm trying.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: To, think, well Because i'm, LIKE i can't believe it's The.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Cardinals cardinals maybe Because Larry fitzgerald is going, In Drew
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: brees is going, In Roger craig is going. In should
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Be Cardinal, saints, RIGHT i think it should Be Cardinal
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: saints that should be playing in the preseason.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Together, Okay i'm gonna figure that out as we go.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Here so a move, Made Darnell, savage let, Go Rayshawn
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: jenkins brought in at the safety. Position so bringing some
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: veteran guys in. There you, know, look brisk you Have
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: brisker and you Have. Elliott then you have a young
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: guy In Robert Spears, jennings athletic guy who The steelers
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: were delighted to find available for them in the sixth, round,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Right they think a lot of his. Athleticism so you're
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: trying to get another safety in, there PREFERABLY i think
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a veteran, guy because when you get a young guy
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Like Spiars, jennings look you want to bring him along
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: at a pace that we talked about this With Jeremy.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Bernard it's nice to have the luxury of bringing guys. Along,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: remember people forget, this Like troy pull them all the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: other guys. Did they didn't just step right in and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: immediately get every single snap they were able to. Develop
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And troy's of course first first speaking of The hall
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Of fame, game first, Ballot hall Of, Famer so the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: ability to be able to maybe.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Roll so we have, There but like you, said the,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: veterans by.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: The, way It's Panthers cardinals in The hall Of fame.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Game when you think about, WHAT i don't know now
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you're gonna make that makes? Sense, yeah good call sitting.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: There so when you when you think about, yes by the,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Way Jack henderson tremendous athlete right back there in the safety,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: position he's got an opportunity to make the. Team BUT
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: i think The steelers look like they're looking for that
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: one extra veteran. Guy and they started With Darnell, savage
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and they tried Out Rayshawn jenkins and they have Cut
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Darnell savage and Added Rayshan jenkins to the. Team veteran
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: guy a little bit older Than, savage been around for
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: a couple of, years longer in THE. Nfl what can
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: he bring to the.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: TEAM i think, vision, vision and experience and communication because
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: that's the other thing you're looking at at the safety.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Position you've got.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: To get everybody else on the back, end you, know
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: involved in talking to each. Other so when you have
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: a veteran back, there you, know you know what the
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: older voice is back. There you know when when when
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the older when the grown folks, speak the young folks, listen,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Right AND i think that's what you kind of get
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: with having A Rayshon jenkins who understands What Patrick graham
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: is trying to. Do it's going to be a different
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: system of. Defense so you want to bring guys in
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: who are first because especially when you come in this, late,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: right you're coming into the beginning of training, camp but
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: yet the end of the acclamation your first, Day Racheon
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: jenkin is in.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Pads you didn't get the four day acclimation with the day, off.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: You didn't get OTA's and mini, camps so you, know
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: you hit the ground. Running SO i think that's also
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: someone that understands the sense of urgency and expediency of the, moment.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Right, so AND i think a guy that is known
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to be able to play some special teams as.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, exactly he's got.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: A history of, it and he's a guy who's gonna
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: be able to just fit. In we talked about the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: more you can do to be, different to be a
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: part of this group and fit in where things are.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Necessary SO i think having him there is going to
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: be key man for Ray. Sean you, know he brings
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: he brings a wealth of. EXPERIENCE i, mean he's a
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: guy who's not unfamiliar with playing in the open area
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: and being able to figure out into some of the man.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Schemes So Patrick grant's gonna have a really good time
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: of having some veterans in this group that he can
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: now depend. On because as we look at, it and
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: this is how it kind of breaks down when you're
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: talking about the. Safeties you got A Amari, harvey you, know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Rookie Robert Spears jennings, rookie you, know and then you
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: have guys Like Jack, Henderson Sebastian. Castro, oh by the,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: way where Does Jalen ramsey when he comes back fit
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: right to that?
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Equation?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Right and then and he is he is a safety
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: blanket type. Guy by the. Way we've Seen castro And
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: henderson back there quite a bit, together right And Brisker,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: yeah SO i, WELL i Think brisker And elliott are
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: you number one two? Starters and then we've Seen henderson
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And castro are running together back at that safety. Position
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: but you also, have like you, Said Robert Spears jennings
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: and then you, Know Jalen ramsey is a he's, in
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: he's A you talk about safety, blankets, okay and guys
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that give you, comfort, Right, yeah he gives you that
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: at A hall Of fame, level which is kind of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: nice to, have. RIGHT i, mean it's one thing to
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: have a safety. Blanket hey can play multiple. Positions this
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: guy go to.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: The hall Of, fame he's a safety.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Tint hey there's safety blankets and then there's a safety.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Tint that's What Jalen ramsey is because he can cover
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the entire top of the back half of your.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Defense, yes and but, again you, know so we talked
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: about that in terms, of you, know who's pushing for a?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Spot who is going to make you do things a
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: little bit? Differently is there a receiver out there that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: gonna make you play a little less twelve than you would?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Think Can Jeremy bernard Or Roman wilson push you off
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: of that? Spot is there a corner who, says, listen
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: he's so, good he's better at corner THAN x is at?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Safety and so let's Move Jalen ramsey back to. Safety
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean these things are. Interconnected they
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: don't happen in a, vacuum but they're certainly worthy of
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: keeping an eye.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: On and they're getting extended views of them because of
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: guys being out.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Right because you don't have A Joey.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Porter jor in there and A Dante, kent you can
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: now roll and get more looks at The Sante samuel
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And Jamel dean and how that looks together in those.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Moments and like you, said For Jalen, Ramsey i'm getting
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: to see More Sebastian, Castro i'm getting to see more
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Of Dalen.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Everett i'm getting to see more of these guys.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: That are gonna be nickel safety types that are going
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: to fill in to your starting unit and be that
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: fifth guy in. There you're getting to see more of
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: them because you have one less guy that you have
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: to get reps for right, now Right so it just once,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: again it just extends the looks and allows you to
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: gather more data points to make more informed decisions in these.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Moments and so you bring in A Rayshawn, jenkins who
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: you see a veteran presence does he still got it
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a right and be you, know what can he.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Still do for? Us can he play that safety?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Position could he be the number two that can bring
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Along henderson Or castro or insert guy. Here can he
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: be that? Compliment and then can he fill in for
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: if An elliott goes?
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Out can he fill in.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: If brisker's you, Know brisker has tie him. Off you
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: want to make sure that there's no significant drop offs
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: when you switch from different personnel.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Group, yes ideally, AGAIN i MEAN i was talking about
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: this With matt before the before.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: We came on the.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Air Matt, williamson you know no. Team you look at
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: your team and know your team the. Best The steelers
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: fans and especially the die hard, ones they know the fifty,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: three they know the. Seventy you, know they know the.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Ninety they've got an idea of. Guys of, course they're
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: not ultimately making the, decisions BUT i can assure you
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: there is no team out there that's looking at their
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: fifty three and, saying we got fifty three pro. Bowlers
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: if he's, hurt he's going to step. In he's going
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to be a pro. Bowler and then if he's, hurt
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: the other guy's gonna step in and he's going to
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: be a pro. Bowler it doesn't. Happen you're always going
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: to have some compromises on your. Roster you're probably going
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to be looking at certain positions in your roster and, saying,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: well he's the best we. Have you, know doesn't mass somenially,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: mean doesn't mean he's the best in the. Game BUT
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: i just think WHEN i look at The steelers, Roster,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: MAX i just don't think there's going to be a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: lot of guys on this fifty three man roster where you're, saying, well,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: okay well we'll have to live with. HIM i just
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good. Players, again we brought
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: it up several times for those that don't listen all the.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Time first of, all shame on, you but you, know
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: just you don't have to look back any further than
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: last year to See Dylan cook And James pierre and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: know that you started with fifty, three but you had
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: many more players in. That now the question, is you,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: know how do you go from from solid and good
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to very? Good and of COURSE i, LISTEN i think
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: if you win your division to make the, playoffs you're very.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Good So, now how do you make that next step
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: to being the team that is going, to you, know
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: win that first round, game win that second round, game
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: start eyeing AN Afc championship. Game that kind of. Team
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: how do you make that next step? Forward because clearly
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: they haven't been able to do That max in the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: last you know what seven, YEARS.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I think it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Is, yeah they've always been in the gooder, category, yes,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: right but sadly, enough only very few dictionaries recognize.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Gooder, yes so you go.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: From good to great and we've kind of been right
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: there in.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Between, yes, goodest yeah, exactly to goodest good er?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Good they need to be good.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Err, yeah they need to be gooder what they?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: DO i think that's THE t shirt we need to.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Hear we need to be? Good err? Yeah is THE
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: t shirt to uh To. NO i don't think THAT'LL
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: i don't think that will. GO i don't think anyone
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: wants to be good Err, no but.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: You want to be Great AND i think that's what
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: we're talking. About how do you make that jump too?
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Great?
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Right because that's the team that wins in the first,
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  Speaker 3: round that's the team that threatens in the, second if
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  Speaker 3: not sneaks into the THE Afc Championship game and may
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  Speaker 3: not win, it but they think About, denver, right The Tim,
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  Speaker 3: tebow like, like how did you get? There you, Know
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  Speaker 3: jacksonville With Blake. Bortles, yeah when they also went To New, england,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Right like you're, like you want to be in that,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: category but actually it's justifiable in spite of that's exactly,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: right you.
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  Speaker 2: Know and just just, QUICKLY i think one more thing
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  Speaker 2: THAT i wanted to talk about with roster. Contruction we'll
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: talk about other stuff in the next. Hour but you,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: know you Have James, pierre you Have Dylan. Cook, now
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: other teams Thought James pierre was going to be the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: guy who went out and got himself on. Track if
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the other team Thought Dylan cook was the guy who's
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: going to come in and start a tackle after the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: injury To Broderick jones and more than a quit, himself
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: well he never would have made it to the practice.
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  Speaker 2: Squad so how do you figure out as a personnel. Guy,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: okay we can sneak. This maybe there's a guy you really.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Like do you risk sneaking him on THE uh raw
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  Speaker 2: in THE uh the practice squad are attempting to because
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: other teams can try to claim them, versus, hey we
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: know this guy is gonna get. Claimed so we know
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  Speaker 2: PLAYER a is going to be. Claimed if we put
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: him on the practice, squad we think we like be
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: actually a little bit, better but we think we can
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: slide him onto that roster. Squad but, then of course
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: you're pulling out your hair if he's. Claimed so that
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be an interesting part of the evaluation process
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Well AND i THINK i think also with that there's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit of. RISK i, mean that's are you
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: are rolling the dice.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: The same you do the same thing in the, draft right.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly we think he's going to be there in the next,
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  Speaker 2: round and we're gonna be checking ourselves if we're crap
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: or you think he's there.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And then somebody jumps in front of you right before
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: you're about to take.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Them that's exactly. Right Fun it's not.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: That i'm talking about the first round now draft this
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: year or anything like. That, no, no, no, no, no
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: this is this is. Hearsay i'm gonna say it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Now i'm glad it worked out that.
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  Speaker 4: WAY i am.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: TOO i, AM i really.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: AM i mean. JOKE i was pissed because you never
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: want to feel like you got Got. Yeah but WHEN
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: i sat back and like.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Will you start to think about it and you start
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: to see things, Unfolded you're, like, no this is this
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: is how it needed to. Be this is what we
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: got the guys that we needed for those. Teams so
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: let me let me just say the Things i'm.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Not i'm not a. Scout i'm not a personnel. Director
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: i'm not a coach who's going to develop this. PLAYER
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: i didn't sit in. MEETINGS i didn't talk to these
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: guys before. Practice they're all the before the doctor either
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  Speaker 2: not a team. Doctor all those things That i'm not,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Right SO i don't want to pretend That i'm anything
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: like that or have any kind Of OH i scouted this.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: GUY I i just like the big large guy At Bright.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: TACKLE i kind of like.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: That.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah and and you, know for all intents and, purposes
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: you might have stayed at a holiday and EXPRESS i made.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Him that's exactly you know what has that's my. Play
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  Speaker 2: that's my plain to, say who the steelership exactly, exactly
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  Speaker 2: express least.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: EXACTLY i love that, Correctly great for so, Lood but you're,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean big bodied individuals who can move exceptionally
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: well are in Rare, yes, fines that's. Right you can't
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: find that type you, know As wolf would, say large prairie.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Mammals, right that's, right you. Can't there are finite species.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: There they're not quite. Endangered but on a football, field
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: you might as well say that between thirty two different
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: places they can. Forage, yeah it's tough to put ten.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Together it. Is its very tough to put ten.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Together and we are a place that we could say
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: we've comprised a lot of. Those and going With maxi On, Achure,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: yes he's a little bit, raw but the traits are,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: there and he ascended and he had a crescendo before the,
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: draft was the way that you want it have happened
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: At Senior, Bowl, yes the ultimate scouting event before you
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: get to the.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: COMBINE i think.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought maybe he ascended quickly to
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a second round, pick and then after The Senior bowl they're, like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: HMM i don't think this guy's gonna.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: Be around make it out the first going to make
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: it out of the first.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Round, hey stick. Around we have lots more to. Come
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: as the practice fields are now emptied of, players they've
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: all gone on and that the fans are still still
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: a few fans up there.
• 51:25
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• 51:29
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  Speaker 2: Going oh it's so.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah so he's here. Today he's over on the baseball
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: field this. Year.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Gotcha that's why they're all watching.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: That so that that's my little junior to your cub.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: REPORTER I proi is he has junior. CLUB i have
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  Speaker 3: to go junior jor cub.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Reporting all, right stick. Around more to come in the
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: locker room when we continue here in this, too There's
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