Kate Hawkesby: Is Marc Ellis right about New Zealand?

Early Edition with Ryan Bridge · Jul 20, 2023 · 2m

After yesterday’s shooting in Auckland, those words are still hard to believe - 'shooting in Auckland', a lot of debate’s been thrown up around law and order, crime, people on home detention, discounts given to offenders and so on.

There are those saying this was only a matter of time given the state of law and order in this country these days.

I know the state of our country right now is enough to drive people out, I know many who are doing just that - upping sticks and leaving.

I don't know him personally, but Marc Ellis is another of them. The former All Black, and iconic Kiwi personality…