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UK Column News Podcast 29th July 2024 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty ninth of July
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Yourself one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to be joined by
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  Speaker 1: Ben Rubin and also by Diane mcaddie from Scotland. Now
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  Speaker 1: we've got a very full news today. There's been so
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  Speaker 1: much happening over the weekend. My choice of a start
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  Speaker 1: topic had to be what was effectively the last Supper
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  Speaker 1: at the Olympics. Let's just have a look at embedded
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  Speaker 1: video in the slide. I'll talk through this, but I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to play this shot because there have been reports that,
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  Speaker 1: of course it wasn't the last Supper. But to me
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  Speaker 1: the moment I saw this horrific video clip and noticed
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  Speaker 1: the little girl who's there to the left of center
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  Speaker 1: in a yellow cloak. I looked at it and I thought,
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  Speaker 1: this can only be mockery of the Last Supper with
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So Christian should really be paying attention to this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just have a look at a This was circulating
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  Speaker 1: on social media, so other people picked up on this
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  Speaker 1: very quickly. The similarities between what was done at the
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  Speaker 1: Olympics and the stylised picture of the original painting. I
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  Speaker 1: think that is on the top line of the Last Supper.
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  Speaker 1: So this was all pretty gruesome, and it got worse
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  Speaker 1: because let's have a look at this a naked blue
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  Speaker 1: man who was raiding in front of that table and
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  Speaker 1: also singing a song as part of the celebrations.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, all will be well.
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  Speaker 3: This part of these ceremonies entitled Liberty and the Quest
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  Speaker 3: for Liberty.
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  Speaker 4: Performing the song costumes.
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  Speaker 1: So there we are. For me, this was overly mocking
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  Speaker 1: the Christian religion. I don't think there was any doubt
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  Speaker 1: about it. The thing I want to actually come to
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  Speaker 1: now is that the Olympics. We'll let this one play
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  Speaker 1: just if you didn't pick up quite what was going
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  Speaker 1: on with the head there, but we have. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's marin Antoinette's head singing or speaking to the audience.
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  Speaker 1: So this was all pretty incredible stuff and I think
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  Speaker 1: quite unpleasant and as a result of the for all,
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  Speaker 1: particularly over the Supper, the Last Supper, it did end
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  Speaker 1: up that the Olympics committee had to make an apology.
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  Speaker 1: So if we can just bring the next video up,
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  Speaker 1: let's have a look at what they had to say.
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  Speaker 5: Really, there was never an intention to show this respect
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  Speaker 5: to any religious group. On the contrary, I think that
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  Speaker 5: to imagine he really try to really intend to celebrate
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  Speaker 5: community tolerance, that was his word yesterday, and are looking
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  Speaker 5: at the result of the pulls that we shared, we
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  Speaker 5: believe that this ambition was achieved. If people have taken
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  Speaker 5: any offense, we are of course really really sorry.
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  Speaker 6: Mavlont subversive need amokey, need to show kick mavone is
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  Speaker 6: implement the.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so if you could just put that one back
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  Speaker 1: up play definitely that one should have played through.
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  Speaker 5: Really, there was never an intention to show this respect
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  Speaker 5: to any religious group. On the contrary, I think that
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  Speaker 5: to imagine he really trying to really intend to celebrate
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  Speaker 5: community tolerance, that was his word yesterday, and looking at
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  Speaker 5: the result of the polls that we shared, we believe
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  Speaker 5: that this ambition was was achieved. If people have taken
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  Speaker 5: any offense, we are of course really really sorry.
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  Speaker 6: Mavlont subversive need amokey, need to show kick mavone is
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  Speaker 6: implement the direc yesoire de republican city, dizzi dere doncrisian
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  Speaker 6: c did gens dizzida the Soulidarity of France, com Vu
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  Speaker 6: of France, of France, and he did the transfer transpar set.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there we are. That was the apology. I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe it was a real apology from the lady, but
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  Speaker 1: I was particularly interested in what Thomas Jolly had to
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  Speaker 1: say because he was talking about kindness. Everything he did
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  Speaker 1: was supposedly kind. But he's also pointing out that in
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  Speaker 1: France you can love who you want, how you want.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to suggest to our audience today that
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  Speaker 1: if Thomas Jolly doesn't understand what's coming as a result
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  Speaker 1: of his efforts, whether he's doing this knowingly or not,
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  Speaker 1: the next taboos to be broken and brought into normal
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  Speaker 1: life are going to be sex with children and sex
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  Speaker 1: with animals, because that is where this society goes if
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  Speaker 1: we allow this type of agenda to continue. But it
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  Speaker 1: took it took the BBC and some of the papers
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  Speaker 1: to actually report a little bit about this man and
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  Speaker 1: his belief So his BBC sport there was no intention
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  Speaker 1: to mock or denigrate anyone. The scene in question was
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  Speaker 1: designed to reference pagan gods, so that's fine. It was
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  Speaker 1: all pagan. That means it's absolutely fine. And it was
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  Speaker 1: a big pagan party linked to the gods of Olympus,
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  Speaker 1: so no trouble at all. He said, You'll never find
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  Speaker 1: in my work any desire to mock or denigrate anyone.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted the ceremony the people together, the reconciles, but
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  Speaker 1: also a ceremony that affirms our public, republican values of liberty,
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  Speaker 1: equality and fraternity. Well that's one way of looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: But then we get into the details. So he's the
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  Speaker 1: artistic director at the Paris Olympic Games, and he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to reflect vibrant, young spirit of Paris instead of the
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  Speaker 1: classic romanticized version that you see in films. Nothing about
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics themselves, but here we are as this will
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  Speaker 1: be one of the most diverse Olympic Games, with many
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  Speaker 1: athletes being queer. He wants the opening ceremony to reflect this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's only a success if everybody feels included. But
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  Speaker 1: now in the sun we learn that Thomas is a
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  Speaker 1: queer actor, comedian and theater director, so we can see
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  Speaker 1: that he is simply bringing his own personal agenda to
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  Speaker 1: the Olympics. And then it goes on to say that
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  Speaker 1: he lives with his partner but this took the biscuit,
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  Speaker 1: which was the Daily Mail, Paris twenty twenty four Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Did everyone get it wrong about that controversial opening ceremony moment?
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  Speaker 1: Alternative theory about controversial Olympics moment? And then it says
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  Speaker 1: Christian Leaders claimed wasn't Sorry, I'll start that again. It's
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  Speaker 1: a bit tricky that headline. Christian Leaders claims really wasn't
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  Speaker 1: referencing the Last Supper. So who was saying it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: referencing the Last Supper? Well, what the Daily Mail did
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  Speaker 1: is referred to this social media post by the Reverend
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Kramer, and he was retweeting somebody else's tweet saying,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, no, it wasn't the last Supper. This was
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  Speaker 1: all about the Greek god of festivity and feasting and
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  Speaker 1: ritual and theater. So I took a look at the
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  Speaker 1: reverend concerned, and we should have a little clip here
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  Speaker 1: where he's being interviewed. Now, the Reverend Kramer is on
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  Speaker 1: the left of your picture.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So as you've kind of like are continuing to write,
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  Speaker 7: I know you're doing your newsletter, do you have like
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  Speaker 7: a specific direction that you're going in that or is
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  Speaker 7: it just kind of like, you know, what comes to
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  Speaker 7: you as as you're observing the church and the world
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  Speaker 7: and things like that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've you know, it definitely started out that way,
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  Speaker 8: like what I'm observing. If like a lot of people
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  Speaker 8: are talking about a particular issue, I'll get a lot
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  Speaker 8: of questions, and so what then I kind of frame
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  Speaker 8: my newsletter around that issue because I really want it
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  Speaker 8: to be something that people are wanting to, you know,
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  Speaker 8: ask questions about or understand a little bit deeper. And
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  Speaker 8: so I think my direction is just that, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I've called it into the gray, but it's that intersection
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  Speaker 8: between the collision of theology and culture and religion and
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  Speaker 8: politics to try to just navigate it with more discernment, right,
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  Speaker 8: because my goal isn't to give answers. I really want
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  Speaker 8: to contemplate these things together. And so that's the direction
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  Speaker 8: that I feel like I want to maintain and dig
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  Speaker 8: into even deeper as we go forward, is to build
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  Speaker 8: our ability to contemplate and to think deeper about these
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  Speaker 8: issues rather than like you're, like you said, the kind
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  Speaker 8: of the clickbait version of these things that we often
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  Speaker 8: make decisions about our conviction over.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there we are what I took out of that
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  Speaker 1: was that he only wants to talk about religion. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really want to take up the rights and wrongs
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  Speaker 1: the morality of it. He just wants to get people
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  Speaker 1: into a cozy discussion where they can all feel comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: whatever angle they come in from. And of course this
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  Speaker 1: was ideal for the Daily Mail because what the male
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  Speaker 1: was trying to do was turn Christians back on other
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  Speaker 1: Christians to try and justify this horrific abuse of the
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  Speaker 1: laugh Supper. But interestingly, social media wasn't impressed with this man,
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  Speaker 1: and these are some of the comments under that video.
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  Speaker 1: It said open dialogue. The irony here is rich Ben
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  Speaker 1: is not only a false teacher, but he never embraces
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  Speaker 1: questions from people who question his line of thinking. He
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  Speaker 1: blocks everybody who challenges him. All the dude wants is
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  Speaker 1: an echo chamber, not a quest for actual truth. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty accurate. I'm going to leave
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  Speaker 1: this for our audience, particularly Christians in our audience, to
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  Speaker 1: reflect on what is being thrown at us as acceptable
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  Speaker 1: behavior in France. But of course we've got the same
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  Speaker 1: agenda being spread throughout the Western societies. Now, what occurs
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  Speaker 1: when things get completely out of control. Well, of course,
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  Speaker 1: young children get abused, and I'm going to move from
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  Speaker 1: that Olympic segment into talking about for NEETHI. We should
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  Speaker 1: have another little clip here which is about a lady
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  Speaker 1: called Natasha. I don't know whether you can find that, Stephanie,
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  Speaker 1: but see whether we can bring that one up. It
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  Speaker 1: was just to give a little bit of introduction. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not Okay, well we'll run with this clip. But an
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  Speaker 1: urban explorer called attack. Here we are an urban explorer
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  Speaker 1: called Natasha that who I was able to speak to
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, has been able to go into the dilapidated
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  Speaker 1: for your house in Scotland to actually take some footage
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  Speaker 1: of what she saw. So let's just have a look
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  Speaker 1: at a few seconds of part of my interview.
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  Speaker 9: With her.
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  Speaker 2: This morning.
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  Speaker 1: You said to me that actually you didn't know an
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  Speaker 1: awful lot about.
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  Speaker 10: No I never bare minimum Yes, sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was one of the places that you
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  Speaker 1: went to. You'd heard some things, but you didn't have No,
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  Speaker 1: we never.
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  Speaker 4: Knew the full extent of it at all.
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  Speaker 9: We knew, you know, there was a bit.
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  Speaker 11: Of the bad history as in, like you know, the
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  Speaker 11: abuse and the women, like the most horrific abuse, you
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  Speaker 11: can imagine.
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  Speaker 10: But I had no idea about the sheer depth of the.
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  Speaker 4: History, so yeah, I just went in there clearly.
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  Speaker 10: Half and half like I just had no idea, so yeah,
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  Speaker 10: I can't really explain it.
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  Speaker 4: So I just knew part of it, yeah, and then it.
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  Speaker 10: Was until afterwards then we found out the full extent
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  Speaker 10: of it.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So this young lady was truly shocked at the huge
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  Speaker 1: interest as a result of her work with two other
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  Speaker 1: people going into what was a pretty scary and dangerous
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  Speaker 1: building to get footage. It's completely highlighted the whole for
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  Speaker 1: Nethie Case and Diane pass over to you for comment now.
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  Speaker 1: But this lady Natasha, to me, has really changed the
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  Speaker 1: whole playing field with for NEEFI because people can now
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  Speaker 1: get an impression of how horrific that place was.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks brand, Yes absolutely that she's the first one who
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  Speaker 4: has been able to access the building. It is privately owned,
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  Speaker 4: and it's been privately owned since ive the late nineties,
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  Speaker 4: and so no one has ever been able to see
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  Speaker 4: what is inside the building. So you can see the
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  Speaker 4: full video if you search for Exploring with Natasha on YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: There's a full thirty minute video of for exploring inside
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  Speaker 4: and outside the building. We have here just a short
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  Speaker 4: clip from that I guess YouTube short as they call
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  Speaker 4: them now, to show you just about a minute of
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  Speaker 4: what she saw when she went to NAPI just a
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  Speaker 4: few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 8: You really not make me cry and you give me
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  Speaker 8: those shine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm not a fun buy. This life gone
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  Speaker 3: into shinees those shine yes.
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  Speaker 10: So that just gives you a short feel for what
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  Speaker 10: it was like.
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  Speaker 4: If we see here there's a photo that I sort
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  Speaker 4: of zoomed in on within the video that I've just
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  Speaker 4: taken a screenshot up there where it says specifically for
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  Speaker 4: Nephew Residential School. It was centered over the fireplace in
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  Speaker 4: one of the main rooms, and you can see they're
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  Speaker 4: the two sisters who built the house, which was the
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  Speaker 4: code's sisters, Margaret and Lillian Cots back in nineteen eighteen
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  Speaker 4: when it was completed. They were heirs to the thread
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  Speaker 4: industry in Paisley, and so you can see there it
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  Speaker 4: says it not for Nehie House when they were there,
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  Speaker 4: it was for Nephew Residential School, and that is key
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  Speaker 4: to the case that is continuing to go on within
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  Speaker 4: Scottish Parliament.
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  Speaker 10: So just an update on the petition situation.
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  Speaker 4: As a reminder of anyone who might not have seen
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  Speaker 4: where we are with this. Since April of twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 4: there's been a petition active within Scottish Parliament to allow
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  Speaker 4: the for Nezee survivors to access Scotland's redres schee, which
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  Speaker 4: was started under the Child Abuse inquiry.
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  Speaker 10: The issue has been that they have not.
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  Speaker 4: Been able to be considered eligible because of their short
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  Speaker 4: term abuse so to speak, and saying that they were
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  Speaker 4: not actually in a residential home, they were in a
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  Speaker 4: convalescent home, they were in resipe care, all kinds of
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  Speaker 4: things that they've been saying about it. Doctor Mma Fosse,
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  Speaker 4: who was appointed by the Scottish government and which they
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  Speaker 4: called independent, who it's hard to say that she was
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  Speaker 4: actually independent when the government appointed her, has the line
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  Speaker 4: that she put into her so called research and said
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  Speaker 4: that well, they were there for a recouper to holiday,
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  Speaker 4: they were there for convalescence.
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  Speaker 10: We know from my research as well as an article
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  Speaker 10: that I've written.
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  Speaker 4: That you can see the actual evidence that's on the
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  Speaker 4: UK column website that none of this was actually the case.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot of other circumstances that were not
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  Speaker 4: uncovered in the official report from doctor Fosse. So what
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  Speaker 4: I did in support of that petition was I submitted
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  Speaker 4: evidence to Scottish Government back in March with basically trying
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  Speaker 4: to clarify that it was not a convalescent home. It
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  Speaker 4: was an official residential school run by the Corporation of
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  Speaker 4: Glasgow's Strathclyde Regional Council at the time, which makes it
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  Speaker 4: a very different situation. And the fact that local authorities
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  Speaker 4: could grows parents force them to send students.
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  Speaker 9: To the school.
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  Speaker 4: It was not a matter of just a summer holiday,
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  Speaker 4: which is what they've been trying to sail along, which
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  Speaker 4: somehow any way shouldn't if you shouldn't have happened regardless.
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  Speaker 4: So let's take a look at what happens just for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of just a bit of you view as
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  Speaker 4: well as some new updates. This was from the twentieth
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  Speaker 4: of March from the petition's committee up in Scotish Parliament
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  Speaker 4: which I attended.
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  Speaker 13: I guess you and you've got a small supplementary Yes,
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  Speaker 13: thanks to Convenor, we're indicted to Professor Dan mckady for
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  Speaker 13: a submission of delivments of March twenty twenty four and
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  Speaker 13: just reading therefrom, she states the purpose of address for
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  Speaker 13: historical institutional childel abuse should be to benefit survivors. Currently,
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  Speaker 13: the eligibility guidelines specifically exclude survivors of short term residential
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  Speaker 13: school abuse. This is unjust, that's correct. Surely, surely, Deputy
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  Speaker 13: First Minister, your statement today is actually perpetrating a manifest injustice.
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  Speaker 9: So that was in March.
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  Speaker 10: It was very upsetting.
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  Speaker 4: Short of Robinson, the Deputy First Minister at the time,
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  Speaker 4: went on to a bunch of baffling yeah, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know. Sorry, And so then the Petitions Committee went
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  Speaker 4: away and did some work and did some more research,
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  Speaker 4: talked to some legal experts and in the twenty sixth
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  Speaker 4: of June they had another meeting to discuss this. And
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  Speaker 4: this is where we are right up into the sumbreak.
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  Speaker 14: Thank you Comino. Like the evidence we've heard, I wonder
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  Speaker 14: if a committee we'd write to debut the First Minister
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  Speaker 14: to say out the Committe's view for individuals who experienced
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  Speaker 14: abuse care setting should be able to access a redress
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  Speaker 14: scheme regardless of the length of their stay of However,
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  Speaker 14: there was a parental consent for replacement The Committee may
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  Speaker 14: wish to highlight Thompson's slitters view, but the way in
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  Speaker 14: which exclusion have been introduced and applied are inconsistent with
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  Speaker 14: the principles of dignity, respect and compassion which are supposed
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  Speaker 14: to underpin the legislation. Also, the Scottis Government should review
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  Speaker 14: Redress for Survivor's Historic Child Abuse in Care Scotland at
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  Speaker 14: twenty twenty one and consult on expanding the scheme to
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  Speaker 14: include residential institutions that are owned and operated by a state,
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  Speaker 14: regardless of a length of their stay, enable REDRESS to
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  Speaker 14: provide where the abuse was carried out in such institutions
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  Speaker 14: by staff employed by state, regardless of whether parental consent
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  Speaker 14: had been provided for a child to be placed there.
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  Speaker 14: The Committee also recommends that the Scottish Government introduces a
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  Speaker 14: feedback mechanism to improve the collaboration between the government's REGISS
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  Speaker 14: Unit and Redress Scotland, enabling REGISS Scotland to flog any
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  Speaker 14: issue or concerns that they helped.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously that was great news for us and for
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  Speaker 4: anyone who was abused in care for any amount of
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  Speaker 4: time in Scotland, because I would like to think that
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  Speaker 4: the work that I did, and the evidence that I provided,
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  Speaker 4: as well as the legal experts and the others who
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  Speaker 4: are working on behalf of those who were abused in
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  Speaker 4: care that we made a difference in terms of this
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  Speaker 4: Petition's committee agree unanimously, and please remember it's across party committee,
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  Speaker 4: so this doesn't happen very often that they're all in agreement.
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  Speaker 4: But the decision was unanimous. And the part that I
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  Speaker 4: didn't get to show in this clip is that the
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  Speaker 4: next step is that they were going to write to
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  Speaker 4: the Deputy First Minister expressing how they feel about it,
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  Speaker 4: and they are willing to take it to the floor
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  Speaker 4: of Parliament if necessary, once they've returned from the summer break. Unfortunately, however,
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  Speaker 4: we've had some press in recent days to sort of
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  Speaker 4: highlight these sort of progress. So back to the Deputy
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  Speaker 4: First Minister, who was now Kate Forbes, has very unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: taken in the position as we thought she would. We
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  Speaker 4: have to expect it that the same is what John
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  Speaker 4: Swinney said, what John Robinson said that basically, well, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: there's nothing we can do. They don't make the criteria
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  Speaker 4: and she actually used there the words from the so
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  Speaker 4: called Independent researcher about the short term care and about
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the convalescence and they were there for a recruiterative holiday
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and all of those things that weren't even true. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: we can see they're just the lies that keep bidly
• 21:27
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• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to take responsibility and allow anyone who's abused in care
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: for in the amount of time to be eligible for
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: their redress scheme. So, Brian, it's quite an unfortunate situation
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  Speaker 4: at the very top. But I'd like to think that
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: if we have a debate happening when they come back
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: from the summer break, that we will be able to
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: have a conversation and potend to put some more pressure
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: at the top of the Scottish government.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Joanne, thank you for that, and thank you for your
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: excellent work on Behalf of the Ladies, because I am
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  Speaker 1: sure it's made a difference. Going to say, the interview
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  Speaker 3: Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to UK Colin and you're going to take us
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: into class of twenty twenty four so matters politics.
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  Speaker 9: Indeed, yes, hello, everybody.
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: We've had an influx of new MPs, new politicians coming
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: into our political system, and the election obviously happened a
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: few weeks ago, but it's just been niggling me.
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: Who are all these people? Where have they come from? Right?
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: And then particularly the ones who are in the Labor
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: Party with their thumping majority, who are going to be
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: dictating the direction of the country for the next five years.
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: So I've got two sections and going to start by
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: looking at the MP's who've been in elected into government,
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: and then a bit later in the show, I'm going
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: to look at some of the appointees who've been placed
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: into positions without any kind of democratic process.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: So I'm going to start off by talking about the MPs.
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: The first one that came across my desktop was this
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: lady h Wang Yang, who is the MP for Early
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: and Woodley. She's the first Chinese born citizen British citizen
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: to be elected to Parliament. She's got a pretty thin
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: majority of just one point nine percent, but her background
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: she's an author.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: She was reviewed recently in The Guardian.
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: She received a glowing praise for this book, The Private Revolution,
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: which talks about all young citizens and how their lives
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: were transformed by Deng Gping's reforms in China in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: nineteen eighties. She's also a journalist. This is I think
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: where it gets particularly interesting. She spent eight years as
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: the China correspondent at the FT, including working as the
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: Deputy Bureau chief for the FT in Beijing, and then
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: is the europe China Correspondent based in London, and Financial
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: Times is owned.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: By Nicki Corporation. Nicki is a partner of the World
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: Economic Forums.
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: There's a direct link there between this young woman and
• 24:19
  Speaker 12: the World Economic Forum, who, as we know, are keen
• 24:21
  Speaker 12: to infiltrate and penetrate global governments.
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: Who else have we got here?
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: Laura Elizabeth kirk Smith, who has been elected in to
• 24:32
  Speaker 12: the position of MP for Aylesbury, which has been held
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: by four different members of the Rothschild family at various
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: points through history, and that's obviously nothing to do with her,
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: but I thought that was an interesting tip bit. Aylesbury
• 24:45
  Speaker 12: is where Watston Manor is, which we've spoken about previously.
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: So Laura Elizabeth Kirksmith's background is in corporate communications, so
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: she worked at Portland working with big corporations to help
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: them think about how they communicate to the market, to investors,
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: how they define their policy, that kind of thing. And
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: she was also the UK Executive director for International Rescue Committee,
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: which is the charity which is run by David miller Band,
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: which we have spoken about previously here on the column
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: as being a trojan horse for the globalists and it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: heavily backed by George Soros, and in fact, the IRC
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: gave Soros its Freedom Award back in twenty thirteen for
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: what miller Band described as his tremendous commitment to the
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: advancement of human rights, social justice and democracy around the world.
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: So some interesting connections there. Up in Aylesbury, we then
• 25:42
  Speaker 12: have Katie White obe the Leeds Northwest. She got a
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: solid majority there, well done and her background another fascinating one.
• 25:53
  Speaker 12: There's so many links into global institutions here. So she
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: was the executive director for Advocacy and campaign up until
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: April this year at the WWF, which as we know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: is one of the big vehicles for pushing the climate
• 26:07
  Speaker 12: agenda internationally, one of these big civil society organizations. And
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: then she's also worked as Campaigns director for Europe but
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: one dot Org and the one campaign and that is
• 26:18
  Speaker 12: backed by amongst otherm in the list is absolutely incredible.
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: But the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Bloomberg Bono, the
• 26:27
  Speaker 12: David Geffen Foundation, the Ford Foundation, Open Societies again, the
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: Rockefeller Foundation. So all of these institutions are funding the
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: one dot Org which Katie White was working out in
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: a very senior position not that long ago.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: Again, fascinating links here into the Labor Party. Who else Tom.
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: Hayes in Bournemouth East replaced Tobias Elwood. Good on him,
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: But what's mister Hayes's background? He was a counselor for
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: the Saint Clement's Ward on Oxford City Council up until
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: being appointed as MP, and he was responsible for the
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: zero emission zone in Oxford, which, as we know from
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: speaking about it here extensively over the past few years,
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: is one of the most strict and punitive low mission
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: zones in the UK. Who else have we got Polly
• 27:20
  Speaker 12: Billington the East Thanet started life as a journalist, worked
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: at the BBC as a reporter for the Today program,
• 27:29
  Speaker 12: was then political editor of a news beat which is
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: specifically targeted at young people. As a Radio one program
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: goes out on the radio every day. She was also
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: Hackney councilor for de Beauvois and interestingly she would have
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: been my counselor at some point. So I used to
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: live in the Bova Wa, so we have something of
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: a connection there. And then more interestingly, she was the
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: founder and chief executive of UK one hundred, which is
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: the uk C forty cities climate vehicle funded by Sir
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: Christopher Hone Children's Investment Fund. We've spoke about them last
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: week because Phil Glanville, who is the former mayor of Hackney,
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: now works there in a communications role. They didn't cross over,
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: but I'm almost certain that there would have been some
• 28:14
  Speaker 12: involvement between Polly Billington getting Phil Glanville into that job
• 28:18
  Speaker 12: after he had to step down because of his association
• 28:22
  Speaker 12: with a known pedophile. It's really concerning stuff going on
• 28:26
  Speaker 12: at the top level of these organizations. She also helped
• 28:29
  Speaker 12: run Secon's leadership campaign to get an elective mayor. She
• 28:32
  Speaker 12: was a spad to Ed Millerban. She was a media
• 28:35
  Speaker 12: director for his leadership campaign. The Melaban brothers are very
• 28:38
  Speaker 12: very heavily represented in the new Labor government. There are
• 28:44
  Speaker 12: a lot of their people in there. And then finally,
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: last but not least, David Pinto Dshinski, who is the
• 28:52
  Speaker 12: Member of Parliament for Hendon, and he actually has the
• 28:55
  Speaker 12: smallest majority in Parliament fifteen seats No Point North Fork.
• 29:00
  Speaker 12: Since let's have a little listen to what he had
• 29:02
  Speaker 12: to say out on the campaign trail.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: I owe our country so much. My father is a
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: Holocaust survivor. He came here as a child refugee. He
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: had nothing but was welcome with open arm. Growing up,
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: I had a serious speech event. Many people gave up
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: on me, but dedicated NHS therapists worked with me for
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: years to help me overcome my emission. And the NHS
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: didn't just give me my voice, it saved my daughter's
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: life when she was born extremely premature. These experiences have
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: shaped my values.
• 29:36
  Speaker 15: They are why I've spent years working hard for our community,
• 29:40
  Speaker 15: campaigning for residence rights and helping set up a food
• 29:43
  Speaker 15: bank in West Hendon, fighting for policeholders and tenants in
• 29:46
  Speaker 15: Colindale and mill Hill, volunteering with charities and working as
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: a school governor in Hendon, and helping countless local people in.
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: Edgeware and burnt Home. That's why I'm running to be
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: your local MP.
• 29:57
  Speaker 15: This is a special place, diverse vibles, full of inspirational people.
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: But we're being let down.
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: The Conservatives have crashed the economy, sending our bills, rents
• 30:09
  Speaker 15: and mortgages sowing. They brought our NHS to its knees
• 30:13
  Speaker 15: and broken our police and justice system.
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: We deserve so much better. It's time for a change.
• 30:19
  Speaker 15: As your MP, I will deliver that labor, will provide
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: real help with bills and get the economy growing. We'll
• 30:25
  Speaker 15: invest in one of the largest expansions of training and
• 30:28
  Speaker 15: staff capacity in NHS history, and we'll make our streets
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: safer with more neighborhood police and PCSOs to crack down
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: on crime.
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: We'll fix the mess the Conservatives have created.
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: Very stirring stuff the NHS, setting up food banks, fighting
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: for residents rights and obviously solving the economic crisis, which
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: he claims is caused by the Conservative Party. But unfortunately
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: for mister Pinto Dshinski, I think he probably has to
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: some responsibility for that as well, because before joining parliament
• 31:04
  Speaker 12: he was my slides disappeared. He was a partner for
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: e Y and McKinsey and Company and was a strategic
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: partner of the World Economic Forum helping to implement a
• 31:17
  Speaker 12: great research so I think he probably has to take
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: some accountability for the problems in the country.
• 31:23
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  Speaker 1: how things are being controlled. And I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: somebody from Denmark who pointed a finger at the Fabian
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  Speaker 1: Society and suggested that I should have a look at
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  Speaker 1: some connections. Now it's a little while since I've looked
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: at the Fabians. Ben Rubin has been reporting in more
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: recent UK column news editions, But this is where my
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  Speaker 1: the think tank of the progressive political family at EU level.
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  Speaker 1: Our mission is to develop innovative research, policy advice, training
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  Speaker 1: and debates to inspire and inform socialists and social democratic
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: policies and policies across Europe. Now all of this circles
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: around the Fabians. That's how I came into this material,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but we'll follow it through. The key thing here is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: this is a hub of groups who are essentially active
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: groups in many countries Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: United Kingdom, of course different grades of members, full members
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and associate members. And on the right in red you'll
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: see the linked organizations which they're helping to promote. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I decided just to home in a little bit on
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the links through to the United Kingdom, and I've got
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: some names here Progressive Britain, the Fabian Society itself, the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Institute for Public Policy Research spr I, Greenwich Political Economy
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Research Center, and then there's some for the European Union Solidar.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: We've also got Young European Socialists PEES Women PEES, Committee
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of the Regions Socialists and Democrats and the Party of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: European Socialists. And against that background it's no wonder that,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: with some irony, the map of Europe is read from
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: west to east as opposed to east to west. But
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this is a very very deeply interlinked and interwoven system
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of think tanks and change agender organizations. Now this is
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: one of them, and this to me brings us right
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: back to the debate with Tommy Robinson. So this one's
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: there's a free and democratic Europe countering far right populism.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: So if mister Robinson wants to understand what he's really
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: up against, he needs to start researching the power of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: these organization, these organizations and how deep they are inside
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: not only the politics of UK, but the politics of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the whole of the European region. And of course, excuse me,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: what do they want to get to grips with. They
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: want to get young people as soon as possible. So
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: here we've got an event from the Foundation for European
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Progressive Studies, and of course, if he excuse me, if
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: we look at the audience, we can see that the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: compliant young people who will be the change agents are
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: being gently groomed into the politics of this particular organization.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: But he is Solidar another one of the European connections,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and it says that alliance building is central to solid
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: identity and work. It's essential if we want to achieve social, political,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and economic change. And it talks about effectively being a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: hub to link as many people as possible in this
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: agenda of creating change. Very often, of course, though the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: change is not described. So here's just some of the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: sorts of groupings of partners that they're after trade unions,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: they are after civil society networks, they're after progressive political forces,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and they're after progressive foundations. What does progressive mean, Well,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of course that's never fully defined, but you can take
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: it as being massive change to society as they desire
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and not necessarily what the public themselves desire. Now, can
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we get a bit more feeling for the sorts of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: things that they're doing.
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: Well.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: This is to do with the euse Social Pillar and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the future of the EU social Agenda. So this is
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a particular document. I've just taken one paragraph out of it,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but it says that the welfare state must undergo significant
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: revitalization facilitated by the European Pillar of Social Rights. Is
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the NHS involved in this, I would say almost certainly,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: but of course the government is not declaring it. And
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: if we have a look down here, it says that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: important social partners and civil society insights. Social partners and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the civil society insights are important in shaping policies and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: decisions through what they describe as a shadow social agenda.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Ben very quickly, I'm going to throw this at you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: what's your take on a shadow social agenda being run
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: through the EU political system.
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: It strikes me are the euse probably for isn't it?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think that is the right answer, that we're not
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: clear of the EU and if it can't be overt
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in its political machinations, it's going to do them in
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a covert shadow way. But we'll look at more of
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: this in due course. Here's another bit of this is
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the PES the Party of European Socialists, Socialists and Democrats,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and an example of some of their publications. So we've
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: got a trillion being spent on the European Green Deal.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: There's talk about food supply, climate change and a progressive
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: model for trade and investment. So this is the real
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: agenda shaping UK politics, but we're not being told about it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And what is really insidious is that our own universities
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: are being used as a political weapon against our population
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: by the likes of the Fabian Society and the europe
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: In Union. So this brings us to the University of
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Sheffield and the Sheffield Political Economy Research Institute, which is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: apparently leading the debate on a new political economy and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: spurry as it calls itself, develops and promotes new analysis
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and understanding of quote contemporary capitalism and of the major
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: economic and political challenges arising from it. So this is
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a university working directly with the Fabian system and the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: European organization. And of course here is more of their
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: publications which are clearly designed to influence and drive the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: political agenda, whether the voter likes it or not. And
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: if Sheffield is University is involved, then I can also
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: tell you that Greenwich is also involved. And here is
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the Greenwich Political Economy Research Center which is in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: middle of this Fabian EU political web. And we've got
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a short video here talking us through exactly what they do.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Pay attention.
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  Speaker 10: I'm Muslim On Aaron.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I'm professor of Economics and director of Greenwich Political Economy
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Research Center.
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: The aim of Greenwich Political.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Economy Research Center is to produce research that addresses the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: burning issues of our time, such as inequality in income
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and wealth, gender gaps and pain, employment, climate change, renewable energy, financial.
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: Fragility or innovation.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Do we want to answer the questions which affect people's lives,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: we find progressive solutions for an equitable and sustainable future.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: We want to give the people the assurance that our
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: research will find progressive alternatives.
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: For the problems that matter to their lives.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: These problems happen for complex reasons that include institutional aspects,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: power relations, social norms, and public policies. We use a
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: plurality of methods and theories such as ecological economics, feminist economics,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: institutionalist research, proskeaynes in analysis, or Marxist social theory. We
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: are trying to share our research with the broader public.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: We always organize high profile national and international conferences throughout
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 45:31
  Speaker 10: Are here at the Granwich campus.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: We publish our research in not only our world leading
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: economic journals, but also we make them available free online
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: to the public in the form of Greenwich Papers in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: political Economy and policive briefs. All of these are available
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: on our website as well as the calendar of our events.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So I hope our viewers and listening has caught it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But she's calmly talking about Marxist social theory. That's what's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: being fermented in the background. But the public, of course,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: are largely unaware of what's happening. And I'm going to
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: suggest that Tommy Robinson and his team are also completely
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: unaware of how this country is being subverted. Now his
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Progressive Britain, which is also mentioned in the EU Fabian Web.
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: We are.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Progressive Britain. They say in their own material they're running conferences,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: but essentially they're influencing and if you read the text here,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it says that they're partnering with labor to win. Well,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: labor is won, so we can be sure as to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: what's coming. And if we have a look at some
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of the people, it's very interesting. So out of this
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: little gallery of their team, it was interesting to have
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a look at Adam langele Ben, the executive director. He
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: was previously head of Communications at the Jewish Leadership Council
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and a shadow Person for Regeneration as a Labour councilor
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: in Barnett. He also served as National Secretary of the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Jewish Labor Movement and coal it the referral of the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Labor Party to the Equality and Human Rights Commissioned. So
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: these are not passive activists. They are actually overt and
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I would say pretty aggressive in their actions. If we
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: go in a different direction, we got Roger Little he's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a Labor member of the House of Lords, Special adviser
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to Tony Blair on European affairs and to the European
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Commissioners Peter Mandelson, USA Manuel Barroso. So this man deep
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: into European politics and he's working extremely hard there with
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Progressive Britain. This was a face that I recognized because
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: this is Tudor Evans who was elected to Plymouth City
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Council in nineteen eighty eight and has been Labor of
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the leader of the Labor Group since and of course
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: back in power. So when we look at a simple
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: statement from our MPs, such as this one by local
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: MP Luke Pollart in Plymouth where it's saying that he
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: backs Labour's plan to build one point five million more homes,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: is this a local MP making his own decision or
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: is he simply a puppet following what is actually now
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the EU line. And very quickly, I'm going to say
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: that the links go through to the US as well,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: with the Center of American Progress, and if we have
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a look at the border directors, we're into extremely wealthy
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: people very quickly. So at the end of the broll
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that one up a little bit early. At the end
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's clear that we've got a massive
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: attack on politics as a whole, and the think tanks
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and the change agents are working from plush offices behind
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the scenes, largely unknown by the electorate. And on that note, Diane,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: let's bring you back in what's been happening in the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: US with regard to elections and Democracytently, I have.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: To say that the same powers that seem to be
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: working with Tommy Robinson, whether you're for or against him,
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: or believe in him or not, is the same sort
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: of influence that we need to be aware of in
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: the States with the presidential election. And I think one
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: thing that I want to say that overarches all of
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: this is that we need to be aware of that.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: We need to make sure that they are not winning,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: and by letting them win, that means that they are
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: dividing us, meaning those of us who can think for ourselves,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: and we all.
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: Need to be aware of that.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: But they're not doing that. So I just want to
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: say quickly a little bit about the Trump assassination. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: haven't been on the news since this happened. It's been
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: a crazy few weeks obviously in American politics.
• 49:51
  Speaker 10: But first I would just like to say, regardless of
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: whatever you think of the Trump shooting.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Last week, there was a hearing with the Secret Service
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Director and we can see that there was again across
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: party committee that looked into what she was doing or
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: not doing at the Trump assassination attempt event, and they
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: called on her to resign and they said, basically, you
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: couldn't do anything. You couldn't answer any questions. You didn't
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: answer anything that we asked you, and so we are.
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: Calling you to resign.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: And then we see the resignation letter on the next slide,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: which just basically says, well, I'm sorry, I failed you.
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: Okay, I give up.
• 50:27
  Speaker 11: That's it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: I'm done.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: So what we see from here is, you know, that's
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: the Republican side of things. But the other problem from
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: here is okay, so she's resigned, But what's going on
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: in the Democratic side, I think is very problematic and
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: it's very complicated. So I thought I would explain this
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit, especially for a British audience that might
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: not understand the details of how presidential elections work.
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: So if anyone.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Followed the twenty twenty campaign, Kamala Harris was a mess,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: as it says on this next slide here, and the
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: problem with her was that she had almost no votes
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: in the primary election. She dropped out in twenty nineteen.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: She had no support, she had no money, she ended
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: her campaign, and for those of us who were watching
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: the election closely, when she was chosen to be the VP,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: nobody had ever heard of her, Like who is this woman?
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: We forgot about her because there were a lot of other.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Potential VB candidates that made it further into the election
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: that maybe would have been more successful or maybe actually
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: made more sense.
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: So when we talk about the.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Convention, what does this mean, Well, we had the Republican
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: National Convention a couple of weeks ago that happened sort
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: of to plan other than the Trump banded and everyone
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: talks about. But anyway, this is from a US government
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: source explaining what's supposed to happen at a national political convention.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: And this is on either side, and this is really
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: important to understanding what is supposed to happen compared to
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: what is happening.
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: The national political conventions.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Basically, they send delegates from every state, territory, area of
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: the United States and they are supposed to act on
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: behalf of the people who voted, and the primary election
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: for either the Democrats or the Republicans. The Democrat convention
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: is schedule to happen in a couple of weeks. What
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: happens with the delegates is that they are meant to,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: as it says, they're confirm their choice of candidates. And
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: basically we have pledged delegates. And so the pledged delegates,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: we have almost four thousand delegates in this election. Almost
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: all of them were pledged to Joe Biden because he
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: was the incumbent and he ran again at the time.
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: And that's he was chosen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: But if we look here, okay, so we've got three
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: nine hund and four pledged delegates and just a few
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: that were uncommitted, and the others they weren't even close
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: to him that tried in the democratic process, which is
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: typical for an incumbent president obviously unless something really strange
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: is going on. But it looked like that was what's
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: supposed to be happening. But then what happened next got
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: really really interesting. So when Biden had the bad debate,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: if you all remember that he couldn't speak, he didn't
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: know what he was talking about. And for a long
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: time people have been saying maybe Biden isn't well. I
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: don't blame him for this personally, because my father passed
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: away of dementia, and so I don't want to criticize
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: anyone for having cognitive issues. But the twenty fifth Amendment
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: of the US Constitution is something that is meant to
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: be put into place in the case that the president
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: or the vice president cannot continue to finish their term,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: which basically says that what happens if the president steps
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: down or resigns, or is too unwell to continue or dies.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: And this happened in the wake of the jfk assassination,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: then the vice president becomes president, the Speaker of the
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: House becomes vice president. I'm sort of a succession plan
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: in place. So if that would have happened now and
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Joe said, okay, I'm done, then Kambala becomes president, Speaker
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: of the House becomes vice president, and then we'll deal
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: with the election when we get there. The problem here,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: where it gets really tricky, is that Biden has decided
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: to not step down and dis finish out his term.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: So what happens in this case, Well, the problem the
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: fact that he's waited so long to withdraw.
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: From the race has caused issues in certain states.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: In particular, the laws of to this point for the
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Democratic race has said, for example, well, you can't withdraw
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: this close to the race unless they die or because
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: his name is.
• 54:16
  Speaker 10: Already on the ballot.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: There's been a time limit, especially in certain states, for
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: the states to choose their delegates to go to the
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: national convention and vote for the chosen Canada. So the
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Heritage Foundation, which is a thing take on the conservative
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: side of things the States, has been looking into this
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: and seeing what there are problems.
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: And this was on the first of July, so this
• 54:35
  Speaker 10: was before he withdrew. So then what happened next?
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: If we look at the next slide, we can see
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: then that there was a problem because as soon as
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden dropped out on the first full days, a
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: candidate was really really weird. All of a sudden, Kamala
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Harris was the anointed, chosen, coordinated one.
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: Without really understanding why.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: And this is my question is why was it that
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: they all just ran to Kamala Harris considering she has
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: no record. The record that she does have was really
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: disastrous and she dropped out really early on the race,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: so it would have had a chance according to the
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: rules to maybe have some discussions among the Democratic Party
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: decide what they were going to do. But know, all
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, day one she was in there was
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Kamala is the woman. She is going to fix everything,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: she is going to save the country.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: Whatever.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: So the DNC passed some rules just in very recent times,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: so this was just last week of the twenty fourth,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: they had a meeting and literally changed the convention rules
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: to make it so that they could nominate Kamala virtually
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: rather than coming to the conference in Chicago, which has
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: meant to take place next month, and they vote to
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: approve everything that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: Is going to happen.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: So this timeline is brand new that they've never done
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: it this way before. So they literally changed their rules
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: to put Kamala into place. And it's really really to
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: me a bit. This has never happened before, obviously, but
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: the fact that to me, this does not seem like
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: democratic process.
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: But if there was any question as to.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Whether or not Kambla is actually great to be the
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: chosen one, let's look at this next video and see
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: what the past president had to say.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Kamala, Hi, Hey there, ah, you're both together.
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: Oh it's good to hear you both.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I can't have this phone call without saying to my girl, Kamala,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I am proud of you.
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: This is going to be historic.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: We called to say, Michelle and I couldn't be prouder
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: to endorse you and to do everything we can to
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: get you through this election and into the ovalops.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Michelle, Bractice means so much to me.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I am looking forward to doing this with the two
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: of you, Doug and I both and getting out there
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: being on the road. But most of all, I just
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: want to tell you that the words you have spoken
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: and the friendship that you have given over all these
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: years mean more than I can express.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: So thank you both.
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: It means so much.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: And we're going to have some fun with this too,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: aren't think.
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: So.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Going back to other topics of the news regarding deep
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: state issues and who was doing work, who is pulling
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: wet streams, I think I have the same questions in
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: America right now as we have over here in UK.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Brandy, Ben, trouble world, Diane. But we will continue lifting stones. Ben.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to bring you back talking about Class of
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four again and appointed those who've been appointed
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I will be watching a little bit, but we've taken
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: up a bit of your time, so go ahead.
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: That's fine.
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: What I was thinking, we can maybe skip the video
• 57:41
  Speaker 12: that I've got in there and maybe we can show
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: that in extra because I know that we're running over slightly.
• 57:46
  Speaker 12: So it seems really interesting to hear that. Thank you, Diane,
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: to get that insight into the undemocratic process, right. And
• 57:53
  Speaker 12: actually the people that talk about democracy the most seem
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: to be the ones that are least interested in actually
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: implementing it in practice. And we can see this in
• 58:01
  Speaker 12: the UK because of a series of appointees have been
• 58:06
  Speaker 12: put into very very senior level roles in the British government.
• 58:10
  Speaker 12: I'm going to talk about three today. These are ones
• 58:12
  Speaker 12: that have just jumped out of me over the past
• 58:14
  Speaker 12: couple of weeks. The first is this gentleman Varon Chandra,
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: who has been appointed as a special advisor to Keir
• 58:22
  Speaker 12: Starmer for Business and Investment. He has been the managing
• 58:25
  Speaker 12: partner for Hacklett, which is a corporate intelligence firm founded
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: back in the nineties by a bunch of former MI
• 58:32
  Speaker 12: six guys. So you get the jests with what kind
• 58:36
  Speaker 12: of organization that is. He's pretty high up in the
• 58:39
  Speaker 12: British establishment. He's on the board of the MCC Foundation
• 58:43
  Speaker 12: and he's actually got roots right back into Tony Blair.
• 58:47
  Speaker 12: He helped Blair set up his first foundation when he
• 58:51
  Speaker 12: left office back in two thousand and seven, I believe
• 58:55
  Speaker 12: it was. So let's just talk very quickly about what
• 59:00
  Speaker 12: a SPAD is special advisors. There's quite an interesting role actually,
• 59:04
  Speaker 12: and this podcast was sent to me by Debbie Evans
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: actually last week. Thanks Debbie, and i'd recommend going to
• 59:11
  Speaker 12: have a little listen to it. It's on the Institute
• 59:13
  Speaker 12: Government website. It's called Spadcast, and he basically talks about
• 59:16
  Speaker 12: what is a SPAD, what's the recruitment process.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: Apparently there is no recruitment process.
• 59:21
  Speaker 12: You just get called up, you get asked a few
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: questions and then if they like what they hear, they
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: put you into position.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: And it's a really serious position.
• 59:28
  Speaker 12: Effectively, you're acting as a gatekeeper between the Secretary of
• 59:31
  Speaker 12: State or in this instance the Prime Minister and the Department.
• 59:35
  Speaker 12: They can't manage civil servants, they can't sign off money,
• 59:38
  Speaker 12: but they do have an enormous amount of power.
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: And this guy is, as we've said.
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: Right in the top levels of the corporate establishment now
• 59:46
  Speaker 12: into the political establishment. They've got their hands into the
• 59:53
  Speaker 12: military intelligence apparatus. So against his talking about Hackler the
• 59:58
  Speaker 12: corporate advisory firm that and Challenger has just left to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 12: move into government, they are actually advising the investment security
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 12: unit of the British Military Intelligence on how to spend
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: its money. They've got connections not just into the Labor
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 12: Party but also into the Conservative establishment.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: And Lord William Hague.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 12: Has just been appointed as chair of the Hacklert International
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 12: Advisory Board. So this is very much a Uni party
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 12: type organization working with top international corporations and intelligence agencies,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 12: now right in the heart of the British government, essentially
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 12: acting as a gatekeeper to the Prime Minister and issues
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 12: relating to international business an investment and as I mentioned earlier,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 12: Verurin Chander actually helped establish Tony Blair Associates, which was
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 12: the first vehicle that Blair set up to work on faith,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 12: Africa and climate change, apparently calling to Wikipedia. It was
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 12: shut down in twenty sixteen, but then that went on
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 12: to four essentially the kind of core of what what
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: has become the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change. The
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 12: second person appointed this gentleman, Lord Timpson, Minister of State Prisons,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 12: Parole and Probation. He is a businessman. His father actually
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 12: founded Timpson's group. Timpson is a cobbler. You're going and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 12: get your keys cut there. They're all over the country.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 12: They've got two and a half thousand stalls around the UK.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 12: They also own a bunch of dry cleaners and they
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 12: own Jeeves of Mayfair.
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  Speaker 9: I believe it is who have got a royal warrant.
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  Speaker 9: They clean the King's suits.
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  Speaker 12: Apparently he popped up earlier this year, Lord Timpson because
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  Speaker 12: and obviously you know now we know in hindsight that
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  Speaker 12: this was essentially a precursor to him being put in
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  Speaker 12: for this job. He wrote this book called The Happy Index,
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  Speaker 12: which he calls Lessons in Upside Down Management. It's about
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  Speaker 12: his values as a leader. It's about focusing on happiness.
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  Speaker 12: And also he talks about the fact that he's spent
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  Speaker 12: a lot of time getting former prison inmates into jobs,
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  Speaker 12: about ten percent of the Timpson workforce of former prisoners.
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  Speaker 12: And let's not run the video because it's a couple
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  Speaker 12: of minutes and we're already over time. But essentially what
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  Speaker 12: he talks about in his maiden speech to the House
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  Speaker 12: of Lords last week, is his desire to turn the
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  Speaker 12: prison system into something that's much more about rehabilitation. You know,
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  Speaker 12: it sounds nice, it sounds very kind and empathetic, because
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  Speaker 12: they're always.
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  Speaker 9: Told to be these days. But basically, when you dig
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  Speaker 9: into it, what are we looking at?
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  Speaker 12: Well, he actually thinks that two thirds of the people
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  Speaker 12: in prison shouldn't be in prison, right And you know,
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  Speaker 12: if we're looking at that kind of mentality, it's pushed
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  Speaker 12: towards reducing sentences. You do wonder whether the prison is
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  Speaker 12: actually a deterrent anymore. You know, it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 12: a punishment. It's supposed to deter people from crime. And
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  Speaker 12: also the question that never gets raised by these people,
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  Speaker 12: and certainly not in my experience from listening to Lord Timpson,
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  Speaker 12: is what about the victims.
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  Speaker 9: The perpetrators of the crime.
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  Speaker 12: Are not victims of the crime, and we're doing a
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  Speaker 12: dis service to victims by letting people out early and
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  Speaker 12: taking this whole kind of.
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  Speaker 9: Line of things. That would be my take on it.
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  Speaker 12: And then finally, last, but certainly not least, Lord Valance
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  Speaker 12: at Trick Balance, one of the key protagonists of the
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  Speaker 12: COVID debarcle.
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  Speaker 9: Over the past few or four.
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  Speaker 12: Years, he's been put into position as Minister of State
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  Speaker 12: for Science, Research and Innovation. We know that he's been
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  Speaker 12: spending time as an advisor to the Tony Blair Institute
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  Speaker 12: for Global Change. He's an extraordinarily high profile person and
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  Speaker 12: the scope of this role is absolutely staggering. So he
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  Speaker 12: is responsible for all public sector research, international science and research,
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  Speaker 12: including space science.
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  Speaker 9: I won't read all of these out, but you should
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  Speaker 9: go and have a look at this.
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  Speaker 12: He's responsible for life sciences and that basically means the
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  Speaker 12: NHS right, so life sciences is how the health system
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  Speaker 12: is described.
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  Speaker 9: He's responsible for life sciences.
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  Speaker 12: He's responsible for ARIA, the Advanced Research and Inventor Agency
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  Speaker 12: that's spending eight hundred billion pounds of tax payer money
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  Speaker 12: on research off the edge of the map, looking into
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  Speaker 12: new technologies and then also looking at how that stuff's going.
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  Speaker 9: To be deployed.
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  Speaker 12: Because he's responsible for tech and innovation across the missions
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  Speaker 12: and we are a mission led government now, so he's
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  Speaker 12: responsible for all technology and innovation across all of the
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  Speaker 12: major programs being put into place by the government. And
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  Speaker 12: he's made one major announcement since being put into position
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  Speaker 12: about three or four weeks ago. And is this one
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  Speaker 12: fascinating and absolutely terrifying when you dig into it. We've
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  Speaker 12: had fifty million pounds unlocked for the UK Biobank, which
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  Speaker 12: is a DNA database which is sitting right at the
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  Speaker 12: heart of the health system, which is a way for
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  Speaker 12: pharmaceutical industry to track and trace and monitor and experiment
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  Speaker 12: on the British population. That's been done in collaboration with
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  Speaker 12: Amazon Web Services aw SO. So this is a public
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  Speaker 12: private partnership. But this builds on something that happened last
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  Speaker 12: year where which they call a public philanthropic consortium which
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  Speaker 12: was set up. So this is a UK government platform
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  Speaker 12: which was seed funded by two billionaires.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: The first one is this guy, Kenneth Griffin, who is
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  Speaker 12: the founder of Citadel, is a hedge fund guy. And
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  Speaker 12: then the second one and most concerning, is this Eric Schmidt,
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  Speaker 12: who is the former chief executive and then exec chairman
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  Speaker 12: of Google but also a trustee of the Builderberg Meetings,
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  Speaker 12: who is making personal investments into core British technological infrastructure
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  Speaker 12: alongside the British state. Absolutely staggering what labor have brought
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  Speaker 12: into power here.
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  Speaker 1: Ben thank you very much for that. I'm afraid we
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  Speaker 1: haven't got more time in this news edition to get
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  Speaker 1: into this, but we're now into the meet. We are
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  Speaker 1: being attacked by this system, and if people want their
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  Speaker 1: country back, the first thing they need to think about
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  Speaker 1: is do they really want the old country back? Or
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  Speaker 1: do they want a new society in this country with
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  Speaker 1: truth and honesty and morality and love and kindness. Is
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  Speaker 1: that where we want to head and if we do
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  Speaker 1: want that to be the case, then we have got
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  Speaker 1: to understand what and how we are being attacked. And
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  Speaker 1: this country is being destroyed, no difference in the parties
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  Speaker 1: and full linkage with massive amounts of money through global companies.
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  Speaker 1: This is effectively a global form of fascism. We need
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  Speaker 1: to understand it for what it is. If we're going
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  Speaker 1: to deal with it. We must leave it there. So
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  Speaker 1: thank you to everybody who's joined us today wherever you
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  Speaker 1: are in the world. And Ben, thank you for joining us, Diane,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. We will be back in a few minutes
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  Speaker 1: for extra time and we'll talk more about some of
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  Speaker 1: these subjects, but we must leave it there. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: By my