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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, all system's going clear. You lift up what's up?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Number one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back
- 0:41Speaker 1: for another edition of the First Look this week NFL
- 0:44Speaker 1: Week seven Ahead, We're gonna break down the classic Slate
- 0:46Speaker 1: DraftKings fan duel however you want to put it in there.
- 0:48Speaker 1: We're gonna break down the ten games. It's a seven
- 0:50Speaker 1: to three split this week with the morning and afternoon games.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Got my guy, the big guy here with me is
- 0:55Speaker 1: always big guy. What's going on, my friend? How you
- 0:57Speaker 1: doing doing all right?
- 0:58Speaker 2: Filing pretty strong?
- 1:00Speaker 3: Good?
- 1:00Speaker 2: Ready to break down another one.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Just keep getting to the afternoon with a chance to
- 1:04Speaker 3: spike it and just not get in the right outcomes.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Maybe this is the week. Maybe this is the week.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking about on the Takedown breakdown this week.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I'll get your quick thoughts on just gonna. I want
- 1:13Speaker 1: to hear your opinion. But I don't know why. But
- 1:15Speaker 1: for whatever reason, with NFL, every season, for me, when
- 1:18Speaker 1: I find success or if I find success, I should say,
- 1:21Speaker 1: is it's always later in the season. And I compared
- 1:23Speaker 1: it to golf. I know it's a football show, but
- 1:25Speaker 1: I just said, like it's like the classic slate kicking
- 1:27Speaker 1: the nuts as you call it, and then we just
- 1:29Speaker 1: go crush showdown because we have all the info. Do
- 1:31Speaker 1: you think that's the case. But then if I mean,
- 1:33Speaker 1: the contests are huge, you're not going to avoid them.
- 1:35Speaker 1: But just your quick thoughts on sort of the breakdown
- 1:37Speaker 1: of the season as it kicks in, we get more info,
- 1:39Speaker 1: seems like I start to find more success, at least
- 1:41Speaker 1: for myself.
- 1:42Speaker 2: That is, Yeah, for sure.
- 1:43Speaker 3: I think that as the season goes on, I think
- 1:45Speaker 3: you're going to find out more.
- 1:48Speaker 2: You don't just have to go off the statue.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Also have weeks and weeks of watching people play and
- 1:52Speaker 3: you can pick up little notes just from watching them,
- 1:54Speaker 3: and then a showdown slate that can be a difference
- 1:56Speaker 3: maker because in showdown slates you a lot of times,
- 1:58Speaker 3: especially from a punt, you.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Could just need that one guy to really go off.
- 2:01Speaker 3: So I think there is something to that to gaining
- 2:03Speaker 3: a seasons worth of knowledge before you really can recognize
- 2:06Speaker 3: you full advantage more than just whatever the stone is
- 2:08Speaker 3: showing or whatever tools you use.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the case, and I'm gonna I'm
- 2:12Speaker 1: gonna keep that top of mind. I don't keep a
- 2:14Speaker 1: positive mindset. Things are going pretty good right now, so
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- 2:50Speaker 1: from last week, Big Guy, we'll talk about this one.
- 2:52Speaker 1: B Strands had had their entries in there and we
- 2:56Speaker 1: got one hundred and eighty eight points. Took it down.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Your boy, Baker may Fel, give us your thoughts on
- 3:01Speaker 1: this one.
- 3:02Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I just I just need
- 3:03Speaker 3: to eat crow on the whole. Baker Mayfield not being
- 3:05Speaker 3: a good fantasy quarterback, you might end up being QB
- 3:08Speaker 3: number one this year at Fantasy, which is crazy. I
- 3:12Speaker 3: love the four person stack there, the Bucks four person stack,
- 3:16Speaker 3: which definitely got there.
- 3:19Speaker 2: I rarely.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Two pass catchers and a running back. But maybe it's
- 3:24Speaker 3: some money to look more into, because I definitely got
- 3:26Speaker 3: there and blew out any lineups I had.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking at that too. When we broke
- 3:30Speaker 1: down the winner, obviously it was a little bit. It
- 3:32Speaker 1: was different. They did use four Bucks, but did not
- 3:34Speaker 1: put Baker Mayfield. They played Jordan Love. I think it
- 3:37Speaker 1: would have taken less back.
- 3:38Speaker 2: A naked a naked Jordan Love.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah, naked Jordan Love with four other Bucks. It made
- 3:42Speaker 1: perfect sense, including Sean Tucker by the way, But overall
- 3:45Speaker 1: I thought interesting. The one thing we did break down
- 3:46Speaker 1: on Monday, obviously we're gonna get to the Stone, the
- 3:48Speaker 1: skeleton of the Stone over at Shipped Nation to break
- 3:51Speaker 1: down this first look show. But our tool, the Stone,
- 3:54Speaker 1: you brought it over in the merger. It's been phenomenal
- 3:55Speaker 1: and for NFL it literally had it peg perfect, like
- 3:58Speaker 1: the top optimal on the slate was Bucky Irving. Next
- 4:01Speaker 1: up was Bijon Robinson, Godwin Deontae. All these guys were
- 4:05Speaker 1: in the mix and the one sneaky game we had
- 4:07Speaker 1: for the slate it was Baker Mayfield and Co. At
- 4:11Speaker 1: New Orleans with that game there. So the stack rankings
- 4:14Speaker 1: loved it. All the tools over at Chip and Nation
- 4:16Speaker 1: had it covered, but I thought a pretty good lineup
- 4:18Speaker 1: here overall. Got Dobbins in there with the Chargers, d
- 4:21Speaker 1: the four man stack filled in Downs maybe with the
- 4:24Speaker 1: late Flacco news. Obviously that's the one thing that would
- 4:26Speaker 1: really help a guy like Josh Downs was Flaco at
- 4:29Speaker 1: the Helm, so there was that, and then Deontay Johnson
- 4:32Speaker 1: just filled it out here as the secondary stack with Bijon,
- 4:34Speaker 1: So a really nice build. Congrats to b Strands again.
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- 5:04Speaker 1: let's get to it. We got the main updated week seven.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Our guy, the editor up at the crack of dawn
- 5:10Speaker 1: if you want to call it two thirty one am.
- 5:12Speaker 1: It says on my time, so you know, we're always working,
- 5:14Speaker 1: putting it in around the clock, making sure the work
- 5:16Speaker 1: is done. But this is the stone and I'll let
- 5:18Speaker 1: you kick it off here DJM. We got Seahawks at
- 5:21Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons in Atlanta. Pretty healthy totals for both sides,
- 5:25Speaker 1: so it looks like over fifty point total. Give me
- 5:28Speaker 1: your thoughts on this first one.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Like in a dome, two teams that pass above expectation.
- 5:35Speaker 3: This is a game that you know, like, there's actually
- 5:37Speaker 3: quite a few decent potential shootout games this week, and
- 5:40Speaker 3: I think this is like the first. The good news
- 5:42Speaker 3: is is because there's multiple games, I think that you
- 5:45Speaker 3: might be able to get into this one without it
- 5:46Speaker 3: being completely chalky, because there's gonna be some other spots
- 5:49Speaker 3: for people to want to attack games. Just off the top,
- 5:53Speaker 3: I mean, the Falcons are really cooking. They score at home,
- 5:55Speaker 3: they score in the Dome, and we know the Seahawks
- 5:57Speaker 3: are not afraid to push the ball down the field,
- 5:59Speaker 3: which usually it's a good game.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Pace.
- 6:01Speaker 3: You can see both teams are above average and pace.
- 6:04Speaker 3: This is a game that it's going to be a
- 6:06Speaker 3: worst case scenario. I'll have at least secondary correlations in it.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call. Score at home, score in
- 6:12Speaker 1: the Dome, a team you might not want to leave alone.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Look at these guys here, because I wonder if after
- 6:16Speaker 1: last week people go away from these dudes, like a
- 6:19Speaker 1: lot of them kind of let them down right last week.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Mooney super popular, McLeod super popular, London super popular, and
- 6:25Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Vijon finally had his good game,
- 6:28Speaker 1: which he should have. It was a great game on
- 6:29Speaker 1: the ground. But just looking early on, the funny thing
- 6:31Speaker 1: is the running back in the opposite side of this
- 6:33Speaker 1: game has the plus matchup, so well, Atlanta is the
- 6:36Speaker 1: favorite at home. You could see it where the Seahawks
- 6:39Speaker 1: come out and kind of find some action early on,
- 6:41Speaker 1: get that thing rolling, and then it ends up being
- 6:43Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousin stacks and the passing attack on the
- 6:46Speaker 1: way back. So I kind of like that. Was there
- 6:47Speaker 1: anything extra on the Seahawks side that stood out for you.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I mean, they're passing the ball a ton. We kind
- 6:52Speaker 1: of know where it's going. But JSN was someone that
- 6:54Speaker 1: popped here for me. It just saw him pop off
- 6:56Speaker 1: the page there.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean js N is definitely getting the targets
- 6:59Speaker 3: you want to see. But I still in a game
- 7:01Speaker 3: like this, I tend to always air on the bigger names,
- 7:03Speaker 3: so i'd probably you know, I might be looking more
- 7:06Speaker 3: at Kenneth Walker. I assume our boy DK metcals Okay, right,
- 7:09Speaker 3: I'm not seeing him on the stone.
- 7:10Speaker 2: He's not out or anything.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Yeah, the original Skeleton Show will still have some things, obviously,
- 7:14Speaker 1: the Devonte Adams trade just happened. Some updates like rush
- 7:17Speaker 1: Rushie Rice will show on even though he's not in.
- 7:19Speaker 1: We always update that after the fact, but we just
- 7:21Speaker 1: use it for the sake of the show. But yeah,
- 7:23Speaker 1: all good there for sure as well.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Really, I really do use this as a first look. So, like,
- 7:27Speaker 3: you know, DK Metcalf could be dead and I wouldn't
- 7:29Speaker 3: even know yet.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Yeah it's possible, but he I think he's good. So
- 7:32Speaker 1: we got that one covered. We'll move on to the
- 7:34Speaker 1: next game. Titans at the Bills give me your thoughts
- 7:37Speaker 1: on this one. Here obviously a pretty ugly total and
- 7:40Speaker 1: just you know, ugly setup on the side. Watching Will
- 7:42Speaker 1: Levis last week, it did not come through for those
- 7:44Speaker 1: of us that took our chances on him. But give
- 7:46Speaker 1: me your thoughts on this one.
- 7:48Speaker 3: I mean, this just feels like a market out kind
- 7:50Speaker 3: of game for me. Maybe if James cooks back, you know,
- 7:52Speaker 3: get them ahead and in a rushing script, maybe he
- 7:54Speaker 3: could fall in the box twice. But like Josh Allen,
- 7:57Speaker 3: they just don't. They're they're games, they just don't. He
- 7:59Speaker 3: just have or even last night against the Jets, you know,
- 8:02Speaker 3: he had one of his better games, and it's still
- 8:04Speaker 3: like he just never really seems like he's ever going
- 8:06Speaker 3: to break the slate, and if he does, he's never
- 8:08Speaker 3: feels like he's going to take any of his pass
- 8:10Speaker 3: catches along with him. The Titans, you know, against this
- 8:13Speaker 3: Bill's defense, eight point underdogs at Buffalo, I just there's
- 8:17Speaker 3: just nobody that's really going to wet my appetite. So
- 8:19Speaker 3: this is probably a game where I'm either looking to
- 8:21Speaker 3: grab a running back like James Cook, or it's you know,
- 8:23Speaker 3: gonna be one of my famous I just Mark it
- 8:25Speaker 3: out kind of games.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Maybe the Bill's defense.
- 8:27Speaker 1: I was wondering. I was gonna say too, like Tony
- 8:29Speaker 1: Pollard popular last week did all right. It was kind
- 8:32Speaker 1: of a median type you know score that he put up.
- 8:35Speaker 1: But I will say he only went up three hundred bucks.
- 8:37Speaker 1: If you watched any of the game last night, I
- 8:39Speaker 1: mean both sides of the ball could run the ball.
- 8:42Speaker 1: We saw Breese Hall was doing just fine. It was
- 8:44Speaker 1: obviously the Bill side that was running a bit more
- 8:45Speaker 1: with Ray Davis all those guys. But like you said,
- 8:47Speaker 1: probably James Cook will be back because he was expected
- 8:50Speaker 1: to be in as of Saturday for this game last night,
- 8:53Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the last minute they said,
- 8:54Speaker 1: we're bringing up Frank R. Junior, and then it's deciding
- 8:57Speaker 1: between Ty Johnson. You know Ray Davis as well as
- 9:00Speaker 1: you know James Cook sitting. So I like that call
- 9:02Speaker 1: out there. It is tough to get to Josh Allen.
- 9:04Speaker 1: I've already called him a mini Mahomes in the sense
- 9:07Speaker 1: of building on DFS slates that are, you know, ten
- 9:09Speaker 1: games plus something like this. It just makes it really
- 9:11Speaker 1: difficult to get it right. You have to dedicate a
- 9:13Speaker 1: lot of your lineups towards him, so probably not somewhere
- 9:16Speaker 1: I go. But I could see maybe Pollard getting into
- 9:19Speaker 1: the mix, unless he gets popular, in which case then
- 9:21Speaker 1: you could take another shot on those the opposite guys again,
- 9:23Speaker 1: like if you look at what Garrett Wilson did last
- 9:26Speaker 1: night to them, Alan Lazard did to them, it was
- 9:28Speaker 1: more than fine, even though they have a pretty good
- 9:30Speaker 1: pass dy on paper, So just little things like that,
- 9:32Speaker 1: but not a game I'm going to be targeting, probably
- 9:34Speaker 1: just starting things off early.
- 9:35Speaker 3: So and it does feel like Pollard's taking over that backfield,
- 9:38Speaker 3: but that's just ain't a great matchup.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Yeah, on paper, like I say, it looks like it,
- 9:42Speaker 1: but it's tough too. And he still is sixty three hundred,
- 9:45Speaker 1: it's not like he's fifty four or fifty two and
- 9:47Speaker 1: we were starving for value. We'll have to see that
- 9:49Speaker 1: as the week goes on. Obviously, the point of a
- 9:51Speaker 1: first look, as you said, we're actually looking at it
- 9:53Speaker 1: for the first time, trying to get some ideas and
- 9:54Speaker 1: concepts here. Let's see if we can find any in
- 9:57Speaker 1: this next game. We've got the Double B's, the AFC
- 10:00Speaker 1: North Battle, the Bengals at the Browns and dog pound baby.
- 10:04Speaker 1: It's tough to go in there and play, I know
- 10:06Speaker 1: from falling the Ravens. But Bengals starting to look good
- 10:09Speaker 1: and people probably liking them. These prices not too insane.
- 10:12Speaker 1: They still kept t Higgins two thousand cheaper than Chase
- 10:15Speaker 1: and he's basically been doing the same thing as Chase overall.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Not not quite the exact same fantasy scores, but close.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting He's getting all the targets though, and
- 10:23Speaker 3: ultimately that's what matters.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see Deshaun Watson and our boy Jamis
- 10:28Speaker 3: Winston are now the exact same price on DraftKings at
- 10:30Speaker 3: forty nine hundred. I wish they'd just play Winston and
- 10:32Speaker 3: we could add in. This game could be real fun.
- 10:35Speaker 3: I'll tell you what stands out to me about the
- 10:37Speaker 3: Bengals is it feels like Chase Brown's really starting to
- 10:39Speaker 3: take over that backfield. It's like he's like getting up
- 10:41Speaker 3: to like a sixty forty over Moss. He just looks
- 10:43Speaker 3: better every time he touches the ball. I don't think
- 10:45Speaker 3: this is going to be a shoot him out type game,
- 10:48Speaker 3: and if the Bengals get ahead, maybe this is a
- 10:50Speaker 3: game where you just grab the running back. Hope he
- 10:52Speaker 3: falls in the box once or twice and then counterfeits
- 10:54Speaker 3: that passing game. And I don't even really know that
- 10:56Speaker 3: you need a Browns running back for it. Brown's run
- 10:59Speaker 3: back for it, because.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes perfect sense actually, and it's something I'm
- 11:02Speaker 1: going to be interested to see as well. I wonder
- 11:04Speaker 1: if this Deshaun best buy pricing will entice people at
- 11:07Speaker 1: forty nine hundred just to do it. But I'm with
- 11:09Speaker 1: you both, these rushdes pretty bad a division battle. It's
- 11:13Speaker 1: a tough place to play, and like I talked about
- 11:15Speaker 1: off the top, I could definitely see where both teams
- 11:17Speaker 1: just want to run the ball and just jam it
- 11:19Speaker 1: all day. And that's the thing we did see it
- 11:21Speaker 1: last week, even with Zach Moss everything there. Chase Brown
- 11:24Speaker 1: one hundred bucks more, but I'm not sure exactly where
- 11:27Speaker 1: the other value shakes out. But if you see Pollard
- 11:29Speaker 1: at sixty three, Josh Jacobs down here at sixty four,
- 11:32Speaker 1: stuff like that, maybe he does go overlook Chase Brown
- 11:35Speaker 1: that is, and you could play him at fifty nine
- 11:36Speaker 1: hundred and just hope that's how the Bengals get the
- 11:39Speaker 1: job done, especially if people are going to have interest
- 11:41Speaker 1: in T. Higgins at sixty four hundred when they see
- 11:44Speaker 1: the targets. We talked about the volume all that, and
- 11:46Speaker 1: just say, no, what if I can't fit Chase, I'll
- 11:48Speaker 1: just go to T. Higgins. That could be your sort
- 11:50Speaker 1: of leverage within that game, a little bit cheaper and
- 11:53Speaker 1: at a different position. Anything else there If not, you
- 11:56Speaker 1: could take us into Texans at the Packers.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Yeah, just I'm staying away from Jerome. I mean, I
- 12:01Speaker 3: thought he'd be a little bit better, but it seems
- 12:02Speaker 3: like he's just too banged up. He'd be the only
- 12:04Speaker 3: piece I'd even consider from the Browns, and I'm not
- 12:06Speaker 3: even considering him because of injuries.
- 12:09Speaker 1: And deon. Oh yeah, well we'll get to that those
- 12:11Speaker 1: games later on, but go ahead, sorry, yeah, pop.
- 12:12Speaker 2: In Texans and Packers.
- 12:14Speaker 3: Just another one of those big games that like, I'm
- 12:16Speaker 3: gonna just have to have a piece of. Just like
- 12:17Speaker 3: we looked at that first game. This just I could
- 12:21Speaker 3: totally get down with stacks on both sides of this.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I will tell you.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Stefan Digs at seventy seven hundred maybe a little rich
- 12:26Speaker 3: for my blood, but man CJ. Stroud at seventy one hundred,
- 12:30Speaker 3: taking doll at sixty five. You know, I think that
- 12:32Speaker 3: they're gonna probably score more than the twenty two and
- 12:34Speaker 3: a half. I'm played total just because I think both
- 12:36Speaker 3: these teams, you know, you can see their paces both fast.
- 12:39Speaker 3: They both have efficient third down offenses, which means you
- 12:42Speaker 3: keep the chains moving, keep the score going up. This
- 12:45Speaker 3: is a game I'm gonna have a piece of. Trying
- 12:47Speaker 3: to guess the Packers pass catchers is going to be,
- 12:50Speaker 3: you know, fucking annoying. But other than that, I'm pretty
- 12:53Speaker 3: excited about this game.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no better way to put it than that.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I love that hesitated for a second than dropped it
- 12:57Speaker 1: in there, because it is really tricky. Maybe that's why
- 13:00Speaker 1: the crystal ball reader last week and the twenty dollars
- 13:02Speaker 1: million maker just played him naked. He see, you know what,
- 13:04Speaker 1: to figure it out. He'll find his way around. He's
- 13:06Speaker 1: got enough guys. I just don't know who they'll be.
- 13:08Speaker 1: But I am excited for this game. I think you
- 13:10Speaker 1: nailed it with the pace call. Obviously, two good totals.
- 13:12Speaker 1: We'll see there is bigger game totals on the slate,
- 13:15Speaker 1: So again, I don't think it's going overlooked, but just
- 13:18Speaker 1: to have Jordan Love up against Stroud, two pretty good
- 13:20Speaker 1: quarterbacks going back and forth. We could see it on here.
- 13:23Speaker 1: I mean the past defense for the Packers, And sometimes
- 13:25Speaker 1: I just want to point this out because people don't
- 13:26Speaker 1: always read it the same way. I know Dada is
- 13:29Speaker 1: in there asking about the college football games. You know,
- 13:32Speaker 1: check it out, go in the discord talking them about
- 13:34Speaker 1: the college football stuff for the night. The stone is
- 13:35Speaker 1: gonna be on bigger slates then you'll see tonight. But
- 13:38Speaker 1: I think just in general, and people look at it
- 13:40Speaker 1: Djen like, oh, they're really good against the pass. There's
- 13:43Speaker 1: gonna be no way they're bad against the run. So yes,
- 13:46Speaker 1: that could be a reason to play Jacobs here, and
- 13:48Speaker 1: the price is good and he disappointed some people last
- 13:50Speaker 1: week and all of that. But remember if that doesn't
- 13:53Speaker 1: work out, look at the past defense over here, and
- 13:56Speaker 1: if Stroud starts chucking it early and you're talking about
- 13:58Speaker 1: them being over the total and I know it showso
- 14:00Speaker 1: right now, again, that's just the early week's stone. We
- 14:02Speaker 1: pull in all the actual team data first and then
- 14:05Speaker 1: siphon it out. This is purpose on purpose, so we're
- 14:07Speaker 1: not doing something wrong here, just to note it. But
- 14:10Speaker 1: if that passing game gets going, it kind of forces
- 14:13Speaker 1: it the other way and even though they have a
- 14:14Speaker 1: good passed evense you can just get that going back
- 14:16Speaker 1: and forth. And when you have a pace like that.
- 14:17Speaker 1: So if people are going to Jacobs because of matchup
- 14:20Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, don't be afraid to take
- 14:22Speaker 1: some shots with Love or build out the Strouds side
- 14:26Speaker 1: and just fill it out with one two packers and
- 14:29Speaker 1: do some game stack some three one some you know,
- 14:32Speaker 1: Stroud with one guy and one from the other side.
- 14:34Speaker 1: There's lots of different ways that you can build around
- 14:36Speaker 1: this game. Is there anything else here with the bigger
- 14:38Speaker 1: total that you wanted to talk about or just comparing
- 14:40Speaker 1: it against other games on the slate?
- 14:41Speaker 3: I think, Hutchinson, you know, if this game does kind
- 14:44Speaker 3: of play like we're talking it could I think he
- 14:46Speaker 3: could be a really nice not only stackable piece with Stroud,
- 14:49Speaker 3: but a nice salary relief beat at thirty four hundred
- 14:51Speaker 3: after he didn't do Dick for I think a good
- 14:53Speaker 3: number of people that played him last week.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Just gotta do a quick look ahead. We're not going
- 14:57Speaker 1: to be covering the Sunday night game. But the interesting
- 14:59Speaker 1: stuff is if if Adams is cleared is the first
- 15:01Speaker 1: interesting one, and we'll see him what goes on there
- 15:03Speaker 1: if he comes back from his hamstring quotes Air quotes
- 15:06Speaker 1: their injury. But Russell Wilson is going to be starting
- 15:09Speaker 1: for the Steelers this week. The news just came up,
- 15:11Speaker 1: so make for a fun Sunday night football slate. We're
- 15:14Speaker 1: not here to talk about that right now, but I
- 15:15Speaker 1: just thought I would bring that up as the news
- 15:17Speaker 1: popped up live on the show. We've got next up,
- 15:20Speaker 1: the Dolphins at the Colts, and it's been as the
- 15:26Speaker 1: Dolphins obviously the to of stuff. I mean right now
- 15:30Speaker 1: I saw yesterday. I think he's gonna be coming back
- 15:31Speaker 1: this season, but it doesn't look like any time soon.
- 15:33Speaker 1: I'm not sure I anybody in the chat knows when
- 15:35Speaker 1: that's going to be, but definitely not this week. So
- 15:37Speaker 1: Dolphins at the Colts. Thoughts on this game here and
- 15:40Speaker 1: again we gotta wait and see how the Colts side too.
- 15:41Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting also.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if two were playing, I would be
- 15:45Speaker 3: very interested in some Anthony Richardson stacks at home. But
- 15:48Speaker 3: you know, I just with the Dolphins not having Tua,
- 15:51Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way he plays this week.
- 15:52Speaker 3: I've been here in Week eight would be the most
- 15:54Speaker 3: optimistic he would be back. I just don't think their
- 15:58Speaker 3: offense is ever going to push it. And if they
- 15:59Speaker 3: don't push it, the Colts can go sup or super slow.
- 16:03Speaker 3: They're already one of the slowest teams in the league.
- 16:04Speaker 3: They run the shit out of the ball. Jonathan Taylor
- 16:06Speaker 3: is gonna likely be back this week. This is just
- 16:09Speaker 3: the game. I don't like the pace of games like this.
- 16:11Speaker 3: You know, we see that Dolphins have the fast pace,
- 16:13Speaker 3: but that's you know, that was because half their game
- 16:16Speaker 3: still had two back when they were cooking early in
- 16:18Speaker 3: the season. If you factor in that pace since he's
- 16:21Speaker 3: been gone, they're more like a d rating.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Yeah, this this one's really tough to figure out. The
- 16:26Speaker 1: total is not super high, but it's not you know,
- 16:28Speaker 1: thirty seven or something, so I get it. But you know,
- 16:31Speaker 1: this thing is Tyreek seventy three hundred bucks. But there
- 16:36Speaker 1: was weeks where he literally got outscored by Jared Goff
- 16:39Speaker 1: catching a touchdown in the end zone, worse receiving stats.
- 16:42Speaker 1: He got outscored by by Jared Goff. So we've used
- 16:44Speaker 1: that joke before, but I will say that is seventy
- 16:47Speaker 1: three hundred bucks for Tyreek Hill. I just how do
- 16:49Speaker 1: you think the field adapts to this. Do you think
- 16:51Speaker 1: they just say forget it, I still got a goal
- 16:53Speaker 1: there at some point, or do you think they just
- 16:54Speaker 1: completely stay off him again? Because I'm just no point.
- 16:57Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if Hill a wattle over ten percent.
- 16:59Speaker 2: I mean shock man, that is.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I guess at least somewhat anything.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Like Devin A Chain could be the one that gets
- 17:06Speaker 2: a little bit of love this week.
- 17:08Speaker 3: As I think he'll be back and I think he'll
- 17:09Speaker 3: have that backfield at sixty seven hundred, he's still pretty
- 17:12Speaker 3: electric and they do try to get him the ball
- 17:15Speaker 3: in some creative ways.
- 17:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like he's on track for week seven,
- 17:19Speaker 1: so we'll have to see that. But I mean, the
- 17:20Speaker 1: Colts make every quarterback look good. I would just say
- 17:24Speaker 1: that's at least somewhat enticing for those cheap priced eggs
- 17:26Speaker 1: on these guys. But it's really tough, and even the
- 17:28Speaker 1: double stack I think would be hard to get there.
- 17:30Speaker 1: It's two thousand bucks less for Waddle than Hill, though,
- 17:33Speaker 1: if you think he can do something and you wouldn't
- 17:34Speaker 1: really need necessarily the quarterback to come along, unless you
- 17:37Speaker 1: think he has a ceiling game. Colts is just really
- 17:39Speaker 1: tough to figure out. Besides, you know, with JT coming back,
- 17:42Speaker 1: likely the quarterback situation is always the kicker there though,
- 17:46Speaker 1: and once you kind of know what the quarterback is,
- 17:47Speaker 1: you can kind of know which is what the receiving
- 17:49Speaker 1: options that are possible to be in play.
- 17:52Speaker 3: I thought I read the plan was for Richardson to
- 17:53Speaker 3: be back this week, So I think, to me, that's
- 17:56Speaker 3: a pretty big downgrade to all the pass catchers, obviously,
- 17:58Speaker 3: because Placo knows how to it knows how to sling
- 18:01Speaker 3: the pillar around and get some people involved. Anthony Richardson's
- 18:04Speaker 3: not doing it. Perfect example, when Flacco throws up that
- 18:07Speaker 3: ball to Pittman yesterday when they blitzed everybody and Pittman
- 18:09Speaker 3: catches the go ahead touchdown, Freaking Anthony Richardson would have
- 18:12Speaker 3: just took off and try to run with it.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Yes, exactly that, And that's part of it too, right.
- 18:16Speaker 1: People forget and it's like it's a Anthony Richardson much
- 18:18Speaker 1: better athlete than Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco standard stand in
- 18:22Speaker 1: the box, just sling it out there, get the job done, accuracy, speed,
- 18:25Speaker 1: on the ball and all that stuff that he can do,
- 18:27Speaker 1: not speed on the ground, even though he did have
- 18:28Speaker 1: a nice little run there a couple of weeks ago,
- 18:31Speaker 1: so you never know Flacco with the wheels. But let's
- 18:33Speaker 1: move on. Let's go to this next one, and this
- 18:35Speaker 1: game looks pretty enticing, so we'll probably spend a little
- 18:37Speaker 1: bit of time here. I'm curious to see your thoughts.
- 18:40Speaker 1: But the Lions just slammed the Cowboys last week. I'm
- 18:43Speaker 1: not sure if you think it's a letdown spot because
- 18:45Speaker 1: somehow they're an underdog, even though I get it, the
- 18:48Speaker 1: Vikings undefeated all this stuff. But man, the Lions look
- 18:51Speaker 1: pretty good all season long as well, so.
- 18:53Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I said last week on the show, I'm like, didn't
- 18:55Speaker 3: they just feel like a Lion's blowout? I was like,
- 18:57Speaker 3: this is just one of those shootout games I'm gonna
- 18:58Speaker 3: stay away from. This is not, however, one of those
- 19:00Speaker 3: shootout gas I want to stay away from. I think
- 19:02Speaker 3: the Vikings are legit. I think they're good. I think
- 19:04Speaker 3: they're at home. I mean, they're favored by two and
- 19:06Speaker 3: a half, which seems kind of crazy to me. Their
- 19:08Speaker 3: favorite of the Lions. But this is a game. I
- 19:11Speaker 3: have a feeling this is going to be the most popular,
- 19:13Speaker 3: most shocky game on the slate. So once again, it's
- 19:16Speaker 3: not about if I'm going to play, It's about how
- 19:17Speaker 3: I'm going to play it. And you know, just just
- 19:20Speaker 3: off the hop it just feels like am and ros
- 19:22Speaker 3: do for a Monster game.
- 19:23Speaker 2: He's just like, hasn't done it this year.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Just feels like he's due for like you know, ten
- 19:27Speaker 3: for one, fifty and two touchdowns or something like that.
- 19:30Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, a Sam Darnold
- 19:32Speaker 3: stack with like justin Jefferson and Addison doesn't sound bad,
- 19:35Speaker 3: with like a little David Montgomery run back or something.
- 19:37Speaker 3: So like, there's a lot of ways to try to
- 19:38Speaker 3: get into this game.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this will pick up steam as the
- 19:41Speaker 1: week goes on, but probably should you nailed it there,
- 19:43Speaker 1: It's like you can play them with Jefferson playing that.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Jefferson's also been super tilting to start the season. There's
- 19:48Speaker 1: been multiple slates where he started off huge touchdown yards, catches, everything,
- 19:53Speaker 1: and then just stops it and it ends they're almost
- 19:55Speaker 1: like Zay Flowers. Last week was like I think he
- 19:57Speaker 1: had the whole nine for one thirty two in the
- 19:59Speaker 1: first half and at those exact results. So it's just
- 20:01Speaker 1: one of those things that you can see happen. But
- 20:04Speaker 1: this will be something there. The other thing to monitor though, too.
- 20:06Speaker 1: I should bring this up. I just looked it up.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Originally TJ. Hawkinson was planned for week eight nine, but
- 20:12Speaker 1: he was back at practice today. He's already been activated
- 20:15Speaker 1: good to go when he's good to go, and it
- 20:17Speaker 1: says now he may be back four week seven, so
- 20:20Speaker 1: that would be just more firepower for that offense. And
- 20:23Speaker 1: what's the I think there was on a double check
- 20:26Speaker 1: it here too. I thought there was Aaron Jones news
- 20:28Speaker 1: over the weekend that kind of wasn't super important. Then
- 20:30Speaker 1: it was good early news for Aaron Jones's vikings begin
- 20:34Speaker 1: does some work at practice on Monday, so okay, he
- 20:37Speaker 1: was back at least a practice good to go there.
- 20:38Speaker 1: So yeah, they've got a lot of weapons on this side,
- 20:41Speaker 1: and so does the other side. Tim Patrick got into
- 20:44Speaker 1: the mix last week. Who had that call on the
- 20:45Speaker 1: show is boy Tim Patrick? So he listens to the
- 20:48Speaker 1: Detroit local radio station I think is where he got
- 20:51Speaker 1: the info from on that one. But Goff showed up
- 20:53Speaker 1: in the game on the opposite side of Dak there,
- 20:56Speaker 1: and so I guess you could probably see the same
- 20:57Speaker 1: thing again this week. It's only three hundred bucks more.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Last week it was three hundred bucks less for golf
- 21:02Speaker 1: than Dak. This week it's three hundred bucks more. People
- 21:04Speaker 1: are going to Darnold's side, but goff A Monra and
- 21:07Speaker 1: if he has if a Manra has that big game
- 21:09Speaker 1: at eighty three hundred, you're probably gonna want golf because
- 21:11Speaker 1: that will drag him along in that case. And then
- 21:13Speaker 1: you you know, Sam Laporta had that the touchdown catch
- 21:16Speaker 1: last week, Tim Patrick a cheap option, Javis and Williams
- 21:19Speaker 1: stays in the mix, and the running backs always can
- 21:21Speaker 1: get in the mix as well. So this is definitely
- 21:23Speaker 1: gonna be a target game for sure. We'll see how
- 21:25Speaker 1: it shakes out with ownership, but I like that one
- 21:27Speaker 1: for sure, and then we can move on. So Eagles
- 21:29Speaker 1: at the.
- 21:30Speaker 3: Giants, Yeah, I mean this is just I played Jalen
- 21:34Speaker 3: Hurts his last weekend, paired him up with aj Brown,
- 21:36Speaker 3: almost got the big week I needed. I mean, they
- 21:38Speaker 3: were still solid, but it's like if you haven't seen
- 21:40Speaker 3: the Eagles upcoming schedule, it's like you gotta be considering
- 21:42Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts basically every week for like the next seven weeks,
- 21:46Speaker 3: and as always, it's just who do I pair him
- 21:48Speaker 3: up with. I think when Davante and AJ are back,
- 21:50Speaker 3: I think you can pretty much take Dallas Goddard off
- 21:53Speaker 3: the table. So it's basically just I'm single stacking with
- 21:55Speaker 3: Davante or AJ and just hoping one of the two
- 21:58Speaker 3: goes off.
- 21:59Speaker 2: You know, they both kind of we're solid. Last week.
- 22:02Speaker 3: I wish one of them would have went off, probably
- 22:03Speaker 3: would have done a little bit better, But the tush
- 22:05Speaker 3: push is still there. It seems like when the wide
- 22:07Speaker 3: receivers are there, Barkley gets downgraded. So I'm a lot
- 22:10Speaker 3: less interested in him at eighty two hundred, and I
- 22:11Speaker 3: think the Giants can do just enough, especially with Elik
- 22:14Speaker 3: Neighbors back, to keep the pace of this game up.
- 22:16Speaker 3: This seems like one of those sneaky games that I'm
- 22:18Speaker 3: probably gonna end up running some stacks in.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like that call. Also, by the way,
- 22:23Speaker 1: to Dallas Goddard left the game with a hamstring injury,
- 22:25Speaker 1: so that was something as well that we're going to
- 22:28Speaker 1: be keeping keeping an eye on for this week. What
- 22:31Speaker 1: is the latest Neighbors News.
- 22:34Speaker 3: I mean, he's like he'll he's coming back from concussion.
- 22:37Speaker 3: I was surprised he didn't play this past week because
- 22:38Speaker 3: it's usually only ten days to clear concussion. So I
- 22:40Speaker 3: would say he's ninety nine percent to play. This week's
- 22:43Speaker 3: sign five hundreds A nice little pay spike for him.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Yeah, got he got boosted up quite a bit here. Actually,
- 22:50Speaker 1: you're you're right. The other thing is that you know,
- 22:52Speaker 1: I don't know if people believe in this either, like
- 22:53Speaker 1: how are the Eagles only three and a half point favorites?
- 22:56Speaker 1: But again, it's a it's a tough spot when you
- 22:58Speaker 1: go into these matchups they're going in like people talk
- 23:00Speaker 1: about Hurts at home, all these different factors. But definitely
- 23:03Speaker 1: think this is a more interesting spot. And of the
- 23:05Speaker 1: three quarterbacks on this slate, I should say four actually
- 23:09Speaker 1: because you know I have to include Mahomes even though
- 23:10Speaker 1: never Mahomes, but I was gonna say of Jaden Daniels,
- 23:13Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, the Triple J's, and then Patrick Mahomes.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Of the four priced up quarterbacks, I probably have the
- 23:21Speaker 1: most interest in Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts over Allen
- 23:25Speaker 1: and Mahomes, and I think others will love Jaden Daniels
- 23:27Speaker 1: when we get there. But I think Hurts is always
- 23:30Speaker 1: a little bit interesting for a little bit less, and
- 23:32Speaker 1: this matchup could end up being sneaky, like you mentioned,
- 23:34Speaker 1: sort of a lower total all around, but good pace
- 23:37Speaker 1: on both sides, good opportunity, and the back and forth
- 23:39Speaker 1: that we could end up seeing in this one. Versus
- 23:41Speaker 1: the Bengals Browns earlier in that division game, you're not
- 23:44Speaker 1: as likely to see it because most teams just want
- 23:45Speaker 1: to ground and pound, So it makes perfect sense. One
- 23:48Speaker 1: of the chats said, you know, back to the other game,
- 23:50Speaker 1: Jamison over Brown, it's twenty three hundred bucks. But I
- 23:53Speaker 1: also think it's a little bit different, Like Jamison has
- 23:55Speaker 1: still been sort of the guy that has to catch
- 23:57Speaker 1: that touchdown, catch that bomb, catch that big play. And
- 24:01Speaker 1: I would actually go back for two seconds to spend time.
- 24:03Speaker 1: And I know it's not a big deal, but like
- 24:05Speaker 1: the Raymonds or Patrick's can almost catch the ball that
- 24:08Speaker 1: Jamison Williams can in a spot there and steal that,
- 24:11Speaker 1: whereas a manra is gonna be more like your possession guy,
- 24:14Speaker 1: get all the you know, he'll rack up ten for
- 24:15Speaker 1: one point fifty and then it just ends up does
- 24:17Speaker 1: he get into the box once twice or not at all?
- 24:20Speaker 1: That ends up making or breaking your day. So I
- 24:22Speaker 1: just think that's another way to look at it.
- 24:23Speaker 2: But move on.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Let's go to the Raiders at the Rams, and I think,
- 24:28Speaker 1: what's the situation with Kyron Williams. That's probably the best
- 24:31Speaker 1: place to start, and you could take it over from there.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Well, he's eighty one hundred dollars, So that's that's a
- 24:34Speaker 3: big kick in the nutsright off the bat, because this
- 24:36Speaker 3: seems like a dream matchup for him at home with
- 24:38Speaker 3: a big safe total against the Raiders. I don't I
- 24:42Speaker 3: haven't seen much about his injury situation. I'm over here
- 24:45Speaker 3: looking at my favorite.
- 24:46Speaker 1: No, I think he's good. I just met, like, Yeah,
- 24:47Speaker 1: the price bump to eighty one hundred bucks.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean eighty one hundred dollars. It's just super
- 24:52Speaker 3: hard to pay for any running back, especially a Rams
- 24:54Speaker 3: running back. But man, this does seem like a pretty
- 24:57Speaker 3: safe spot. I wish you were seventy three hundred. I'd
- 24:59Speaker 3: be all in on him, right. But you get to
- 25:00Speaker 3: that eight thousand dollars price tag at running back, it
- 25:02Speaker 3: does it does something to me mentally, so I can't
- 25:07Speaker 3: really get behind many rams. I guess you could do
- 25:09Speaker 3: a ram stack, but got lye. It's so hard for
- 25:12Speaker 3: you know, whenever Pooka and and Cup still being out,
- 25:15Speaker 3: who the hell is he gonna throw the ball to?
- 25:16Speaker 3: He'd being Stafford. It just makes it hard. So I'd
- 25:18Speaker 3: want to go Karen Williams. But then am I that
- 25:20Speaker 3: excited just been eighty one hundred dollars on a rams
- 25:22Speaker 3: running back?
- 25:23Speaker 2: It just gets tough, Okay.
- 25:25Speaker 1: And then we did just get this four hours ago
- 25:26Speaker 1: because I was waiting for the updates since last night.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna come up on this show.
- 25:29Speaker 1: But the Cooper cup Is had a positive workout Monday
- 25:34Speaker 1: and could play this weekend, so there was a question
- 25:37Speaker 1: about him coming back as well. So Cooper Cup could
- 25:40Speaker 1: be in the mix this weekend going up against the Raiders.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Would you have any love for him? I'll look up
- 25:44Speaker 1: his price tray quick just to see. But I didn't
- 25:45Speaker 1: even see.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Cooper Cups seventy nine hundred. Yeah.
- 25:49Speaker 1: See what do you think about that one?
- 25:50Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 25:50Speaker 3: I mean if if Cups sin, I'm a lot more interested.
- 25:53Speaker 3: I want to make sure it's gonna be like a
- 25:54Speaker 3: full workload, not one of those ramping back up type things,
- 25:57Speaker 3: you know, where like they give him sixty percent playing
- 25:59Speaker 3: time this week. But if that's the case, then all
- 26:01Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Stafford cup and then you can
- 26:03Speaker 3: punt with one of those, you know, maybe even Parkinson.
- 26:06Speaker 3: Just a little three man Stafford stack with a twenty
- 26:08Speaker 3: four point team total, that becomes pretty interesting. And the Raiders,
- 26:13Speaker 3: weirdly enough, without Davante Adams, you know, I think that
- 26:16Speaker 3: that makes some of their runback options more appealing.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I want to talk about just
- 26:19Speaker 1: for two seconds, because you know, the thing here is
- 26:21Speaker 1: both when we see that f we get excited over
- 26:24Speaker 1: h at the nation. Obviously that Zamir White was out
- 26:26Speaker 1: last week, Alexander Madison came in, he was, okay, gotta talk.
- 26:29Speaker 1: I think, what do you get a touchdown? And it's
- 26:31Speaker 1: a bit going on there, but just to say fifty
- 26:33Speaker 1: five hundred, So we'd have to wait and see on that,
- 26:35Speaker 1: but I think people would have interest there. You could
- 26:37Speaker 1: see a secondary stack of like the running back with
- 26:39Speaker 1: Cup if he did play anything along those lines, and
- 26:42Speaker 1: then obviously with no Adams, which he hasn't been there anyway,
- 26:45Speaker 1: but the people continue to play a you know, going
- 26:47Speaker 1: up here against a decent past matchup. Jacoby Myers fifty
- 26:51Speaker 1: four hundred Trey Tucker forty two hundred were forcing in
- 26:54Speaker 1: DJ Turner in some spots last week. Again with other
- 26:57Speaker 1: guys missing, it gets a little bit more enticing. So
- 26:59Speaker 1: do you have any any other thoughts on the receiving
- 27:01Speaker 1: options for the Raiders.
- 27:02Speaker 3: I mean, Jacobe Myers makes all the sense in the world,
- 27:04Speaker 3: but like he just hasn't really seized the moments since
- 27:06Speaker 3: DeVante's been out these past everal weeks, So I don't
- 27:09Speaker 3: really know. I guess Trey Tucker would be the one.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Of course, brock Bowers as a beast, but yeah, you know,
- 27:13Speaker 3: fifty hundred dollars tight Ends aren't using my favorite runback options,
- 27:16Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I had a run
- 27:18Speaker 3: back option to be somebody who can really carry a team,
- 27:20Speaker 3: and tight Ends typically can't do that.
- 27:22Speaker 1: That's been the challenge, I know. Even last week people
- 27:24Speaker 1: were getting excited that the payoff options were gonna hit,
- 27:27Speaker 1: and then it still ended up being Kate Otten for
- 27:29Speaker 1: cheap on all the rosters. It ended up being who's
- 27:32Speaker 1: the other guy there? Was somebody else, But yeah, like
- 27:34Speaker 1: I guess Laporta caught a touchdown and stuff, but nothing mattered.
- 27:37Speaker 1: You still ended up getting there with the cheap tight
- 27:39Speaker 1: end last week. So that was the other thing I
- 27:41Speaker 1: was going to bring up. Obviously, getting a ton of
- 27:42Speaker 1: targets per games. Saw the stats on that this week,
- 27:45Speaker 1: so at least somewhat interesting to maybe get some pieces
- 27:48Speaker 1: in this game, but it might end up being some
- 27:50Speaker 1: of the cheaper options that make more sense once the
- 27:51Speaker 1: week goes on. This game is definitely a target game.
- 27:55Speaker 1: I think this is this The biggest total in the
- 27:56Speaker 1: slater is the other one.
- 27:58Speaker 3: It's right there with him, right that fifty two and
- 28:00Speaker 3: a half. So yeah, it's kind of hard to the biggest. Yeah,
- 28:03Speaker 3: it is all.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Right take us into this one because Jayden Daniels came
- 28:06Speaker 1: down to Earth last week with a loss but really
- 28:08Speaker 1: still find in fantasy, had a bad game and put
- 28:10Speaker 1: up twenty twenty one fantasy points. So just to note that,
- 28:14Speaker 1: I mean, going into Baltimore never easy, but now back
- 28:17Speaker 1: at home going up against the Panthers. Can't ask for
- 28:19Speaker 1: a better slash, easier spot or matchup. So what's your
- 28:22Speaker 1: thoughts on this one?
- 28:23Speaker 2: The Panthers played no defense, is my thoughts.
- 28:25Speaker 3: So it's like Jayden Daniels is going to be twenty
- 28:27Speaker 3: percent minimum in tournaments next week, and the question is
- 28:31Speaker 3: just how do you play him? He's the one thing
- 28:32Speaker 3: that you can say about Jaden Daniels. As good as
- 28:34Speaker 3: he's been this year, he's not the easiest guy to stack.
- 28:36Speaker 3: I mean, outside of McLaurin, who are you ever feeling
- 28:39Speaker 3: real confident about stacking him with?
- 28:41Speaker 2: Right?
- 28:41Speaker 3: Like I played him last week. I mixed some Ertz in,
- 28:43Speaker 3: some McLaurin and some Eckler, and it just he doesn't
- 28:46Speaker 3: really take anybody there with him, and it gets very
- 28:49Speaker 3: hard to single stacking. Maybe maybe we need to play
- 28:52Speaker 3: it like the million dollar guy did this last week
- 28:53Speaker 3: and just start playing him naked and go play four
- 28:56Speaker 3: guys from another team, four Raiders or something.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the way.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Or it's just you use him like the love play
- 29:02Speaker 1: and just play him and get whatever he does on
- 29:04Speaker 1: the ground and whatever he's passing around to. But I
- 29:06Speaker 1: do think McLaurin ERTs is how people will go. Ertz
- 29:09Speaker 1: stayed under four k. He got the best buy pricing
- 29:12Speaker 1: as well. He was thirty seven hundred last week went
- 29:14Speaker 1: up to thirty nine. He's still getting targets. It's just
- 29:17Speaker 1: what they're turning into. Everyone says he's dead every game
- 29:19Speaker 1: and he's old and all this. But again, when we
- 29:21Speaker 1: haven't seen these tight ends that light up the position
- 29:24Speaker 1: and you have to play one, sometimes it's just filling
- 29:26Speaker 1: it in as easy as that. And I think you
- 29:27Speaker 1: could go Daniels Ertz and just use it as a
- 29:30Speaker 1: way to say, if I'm playing Daniel, maybe Daniels makes
- 29:32Speaker 1: up for him. And if no tight end breaks the
- 29:34Speaker 1: slate and Daniel says forty or thirty five or something
- 29:37Speaker 1: crazy year and they go off completely, then you'd be fine.
- 29:40Speaker 2: But the other thing the.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Chat brought up, and I think it's at least somewhat interesting,
- 29:43Speaker 1: we have seen when these whoops. I don't know if
- 29:47Speaker 1: you brought that up, but I might have clicked it.
- 29:48Speaker 1: But anyway, last week the DAK side, So it looks
- 29:53Speaker 1: like Jayden Daniels is gonna be dactype ownership here, right.
- 29:55Speaker 1: He's gonna be super popular in the high stakes, super
- 29:58Speaker 1: popular even in the lowes, the lower dollar higher field
- 30:02Speaker 1: like bigger field sizes in the lotteries and stuff. He'll
- 30:04Speaker 1: still be popular. Sometimes you can just hop over to
- 30:06Speaker 1: the other side at one tenth of the ownership and
- 30:09Speaker 1: fill it out that way and still get access to it.
- 30:12Speaker 1: And you and I have talked about this before, but
- 30:13Speaker 1: we you know, we have college football over here at
- 30:16Speaker 1: ship at Nation. You get you and your team brought
- 30:17Speaker 1: it over in the merger. We love to have it
- 30:19Speaker 1: to Stone all that stuff, but college football is super
- 30:21Speaker 1: flex and we're oftentimes playing a quarterback against another quarterback
- 30:25Speaker 1: because we're allowed to not allowed to in Classic slate.
- 30:27Speaker 1: But obviously that's the bigger correlation the most of the
- 30:30Speaker 1: other other correlations people look at. So going to the
- 30:32Speaker 1: opposite side, have anything, do anything for you, I should
- 30:35Speaker 1: say with Andy.
- 30:35Speaker 3: Dalton, Well, first of all, I think of Brian Robinson's back,
- 30:38Speaker 3: which I think he's going to be back this week.
- 30:40Speaker 3: I think that that could be a nice pivot off
- 30:42Speaker 3: of Jayden Daniels because he's not afraid to go pill
- 30:44Speaker 3: for a touchdown or two, and that would be and
- 30:46Speaker 3: he's hardly ever correlated to Daniels. If Daniel's going to
- 30:49Speaker 3: throw one in, it's going to be much more likely
- 30:50Speaker 3: he's thrown it to Eckler than Brian Robinson, but for
- 30:53Speaker 3: the Panthers like Dalton and then like they passed the
- 30:56Speaker 3: ball enough. I mean between Deontay Johnson, Lagett and Jatavian Sanders,
- 30:59Speaker 3: who actually got a lot more involved this week, I
- 31:01Speaker 3: think there is enough value there to consider a Panther
- 31:04Speaker 3: stack and then just go run it back with that,
- 31:06Speaker 3: Brian Robbinson. Now you're in the most shootout type game
- 31:10Speaker 3: and you're building your roster way different than everybody else.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do like that first starters. I'll come
- 31:15Speaker 1: back to the chat in a second, but just to
- 31:17Speaker 1: note it, your call out there was perfect and another
- 31:19Speaker 1: way that you could do it, and I think that
- 31:20Speaker 1: makes it a little bit interesting because it's just another
- 31:23Speaker 1: way to get access to it. And the close thing
- 31:25Speaker 1: to an F that we have on the stone is
- 31:26Speaker 1: a D minus and in report cards and in life,
- 31:28Speaker 1: and so that's a pretty good spot that he would
- 31:31Speaker 1: be as well. Shout out through our guy Hamhock Kenny Wilman.
- 31:34Speaker 1: It was the Kenny w week. He called it out.
- 31:35Speaker 1: He caught that one. He's super sharp, as we know.
- 31:37Speaker 1: But a huge college football week, speaking of that right
- 31:40Speaker 1: on that note. Second in the main on Saturday, and
- 31:43Speaker 1: then goes in ships the evening slate for another twenty
- 31:45Speaker 1: five k, for fifty k plus on the day, a
- 31:48Speaker 1: bunch of other scores as well, some bets and stuff there.
- 31:50Speaker 1: But he said he just stacked Daniels with a pant Like,
- 31:52Speaker 1: just stack Daniels with a panther. He did it last
- 31:54Speaker 1: week in that game with Flowers and it worked great. So,
- 31:57Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think that's another interesting way to
- 32:00Speaker 1: go about it too. You just do Jadeen Daniels, Deontay
- 32:02Speaker 1: Johnson or something like that and call to day. I
- 32:04Speaker 1: think that's another way that you could get access to it.
- 32:07Speaker 1: And most stacking Jayden Daniels are gonna have sixty eight
- 32:10Speaker 1: hundred dollars Terry mclaur It's just another level to it
- 32:13Speaker 1: where if they're gonna stack him, it's gonna be with McLaurin.
- 32:15Speaker 1: They may have Deontay Johnson in there as well, But
- 32:18Speaker 1: if you just have Jaden with Deontay and you're using
- 32:21Speaker 1: both sides to get there, Andy Dalton's not needed Jayden
- 32:24Speaker 1: is it goes to others that people won't have, like
- 32:27Speaker 1: Diami Brown or somebody else, Noah Brown who's gets some
- 32:29Speaker 1: action last week they catch a ball that could end
- 32:31Speaker 1: up being something that you see happen as well. So
- 32:33Speaker 1: I like that call shout out to our guy Hamhock there,
- 32:36Speaker 1: and we're moving quick today. DJ. We were onto the
- 32:39Speaker 1: last game and you know what I'm doing with Mahomes,
- 32:42Speaker 1: So that's easy over there. But I'll let you start
- 32:44Speaker 1: with this game because it's another one with a late game.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Is it the latest game? I was gonna say the
- 32:49Speaker 1: being that it's a seven to three split. We got
- 32:52Speaker 1: the two early evening afternoon games, whatever time's one you're in,
- 32:55Speaker 1: and then the latest game of the day, just the
- 32:57Speaker 1: single to end the slate on unless we get something
- 33:00Speaker 1: like Detroit Dallas hopefully not. That was an injury that
- 33:02Speaker 1: caused that. But Chiefs and forty nine Ers last game
- 33:05Speaker 1: of was.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Like, yeah, definitely never Mahomes with you. I just I
- 33:08Speaker 3: just hate trying to pair them up. I honestly, I'm
- 33:11Speaker 3: looking through the Chiefs here and there's just nobody that
- 33:14Speaker 3: really interests me. If anything, I get in on the
- 33:16Speaker 3: forty nine Ers side, but I see that. You know,
- 33:18Speaker 3: even if Jordan Mason's out, they've already priced up our
- 33:21Speaker 3: dude Garrindo to sixty six hundred, so they say, and
- 33:23Speaker 3: you are getting no value from these forty nine ers
- 33:25Speaker 3: running backs, you know. And if all the forty nine
- 33:30Speaker 3: ers are passing options Jennings Ayuk, Samuel Kittle, if they're
- 33:34Speaker 3: all healthy, you know, they're all usually at a premium
- 33:37Speaker 3: trying to guess which one's going to go off. God,
- 33:39Speaker 3: it's annoying. It's annoying as the Chiefs have been for
- 33:41Speaker 3: the past several years. So even though this game has
- 33:43Speaker 3: a lot has somebody who's inevitably going to go off,
- 33:45Speaker 3: I still might just hold my breath and pray that
- 33:49Speaker 3: just fade this game and hope that I don't whiff
- 33:51Speaker 3: too hard on it.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:52Speaker 1: I wonder if as the week goes on, people will
- 33:54Speaker 1: try to stack it up or do something with it,
- 33:56Speaker 1: just because you get that back and forth battle. It
- 33:58Speaker 1: is the Super Bowl re as well, right that we
- 34:01Speaker 1: were watching in Arizona last year, So it's at least
- 34:03Speaker 1: somewhat interesting that people would be a talking point. I
- 34:06Speaker 1: think people will like that about it. Obviously got to
- 34:08Speaker 1: wait on some of the news with injuries and stuff.
- 34:10Speaker 1: But for me, it's just really tricky to get either
- 34:13Speaker 1: side correct and when you have a full slate like this,
- 34:16Speaker 1: and we targeted some other games along the way. It
- 34:18Speaker 1: makes it so it's not as enticing. Maybe that changes
- 34:20Speaker 1: as the week goes on, but it won't be the
- 34:22Speaker 1: homes for me. It'll be something with the running back,
- 34:24Speaker 1: secondary stacks, the San Francisco forty nine er side, anything else.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Now that we've seen the whole slate stand out to you,
- 34:30Speaker 1: like just an overview, now that you went through all
- 34:32Speaker 1: ten games, what are you sort of thinking and what's
- 34:34Speaker 1: your thoughts now putting it all together?
- 34:37Speaker 3: Kind of the same fear I was having last week.
- 34:38Speaker 3: I'm not seeing a ton of value early in the
- 34:40Speaker 3: slate right now. So you know, like whenever you're trying
- 34:43Speaker 3: to build your line up, you almost always need like
- 34:45Speaker 3: that three thousand dollars punt and they're somewhere to try
- 34:47Speaker 3: to make it work. And I'm just not seeing those
- 34:49Speaker 3: as anybody really jumping off and a lot of times,
- 34:52Speaker 3: you know, I like it to be somebody slimy. I
- 34:54Speaker 3: don't want it to be a thirty eight hundred dollars guy.
- 34:56Speaker 3: Then I'm sharing with twenty five percent of the field.
- 34:58Speaker 3: So that's my initial concern right now. So I'm probably
- 35:01Speaker 3: going to be looking at some cheaper stacks, and you know,
- 35:04Speaker 3: and kind of like I did last week, I'm just
- 35:06Speaker 3: gonna have to fade the expensive guys because it's going
- 35:07Speaker 3: to be very hard to get eight thousand dollars guys
- 35:09Speaker 3: into your lineups this week.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And that's sort of what you know.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I will say this, like we talked a little bit
- 35:15Speaker 1: about it on the Monday Show, but I'll bring it
- 35:16Speaker 1: up again here because not everybody watches the Takedown breakdown.
- 35:19Speaker 1: If you want to focus on your process reviewing, go
- 35:21Speaker 1: back and see what other good players are doing all
- 35:23Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. You can go check it out.
- 35:25Speaker 1: It's right here free on this channel. Go check it
- 35:27Speaker 1: out for Monday yesterday. But these ten game slates, I
- 35:31Speaker 1: like them. I would have preferred a six to four split.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I will say that I like that a little bit
- 35:34Speaker 1: better because you get a better AM slate, early slate,
- 35:37Speaker 1: you get a better PM only slate, afternoon only slate,
- 35:40Speaker 1: and then you get a nice split for watching as
- 35:42Speaker 1: a fan. But I will say, just targeting the games
- 35:45Speaker 1: and being willing to you don't have to completely cross
- 35:47Speaker 1: them off just to be so aggressive about it. But
- 35:49Speaker 1: I'm saying when you are thinking about building, you should
- 35:52Speaker 1: be really breaking down. Okay, I'm targeting this spot. That
- 35:55Speaker 1: means I'm leaving out this spot. I know there was
- 35:57Speaker 1: some really good lineups last week. They just said, you
- 35:59Speaker 1: know what, I can't fit Detroit Dallas with that big
- 36:01Speaker 1: total in. Let me just play Montgomery and the Detroit
- 36:05Speaker 1: D and hope that they just blow Dallas out to
- 36:07Speaker 1: your original point on the first look last week. That
- 36:08Speaker 1: was a super sharp move. Even if they didn't have Montgomery.
- 36:11Speaker 1: They just said, I'm not going to be in on
- 36:13Speaker 1: this game. Why not just play the Detroit D If
- 36:15Speaker 1: I land there, nobody's really on them and maybe they
- 36:17Speaker 1: just show up. And I've talked about that in the past.
- 36:19Speaker 1: It's not a guarantee that it's going to happen, but
- 36:22Speaker 1: it really makes sense from a roster construction perspective because
- 36:24Speaker 1: it's not a free square. But it's the idea of
- 36:27Speaker 1: if I'm not on it anyway, why not just play
- 36:29Speaker 1: for the what I'm hoping for that it doesn't not
- 36:31Speaker 1: only does it not go the shootout way, but Detroit
- 36:34Speaker 1: ends up crushing them in the defense is getting in
- 36:36Speaker 1: the mix as well. So I really think just targeting
- 36:39Speaker 1: your spots and finding those. As a week goes on,
- 36:41Speaker 1: we'll have you covered over here. The chat keeps talking
- 36:43Speaker 1: about some of the guys that we see and the
- 36:45Speaker 1: names in and not in the stone. This says the stone.
- 36:48Speaker 1: You can get to it right now on the stone.
- 36:50Speaker 1: But we don't do our update until Wednesday, so it's
- 36:52Speaker 1: in our discord. This comes out every Wednesday. This is
- 36:54Speaker 1: just the skeleton that we use for content purposes to
- 36:57Speaker 1: break down the first look. So all this stuff it's updated.
- 37:00Speaker 1: You guys saw it again. If you watch the takedown breakdown,
- 37:02Speaker 1: you could see that we had the Tampa Bay game
- 37:04Speaker 1: targeted as sneaky. You can see where all the optimal
- 37:07Speaker 1: stuff was on each guy last week to help build
- 37:09Speaker 1: some of the winning lineups that were out there. But
- 37:11Speaker 1: any final thoughts, are you on anything else going on
- 37:13Speaker 1: right now? DJ? Anything else you want to talk about
- 37:14Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
- 37:16Speaker 2: Nope, just excited. I got four or five days to
- 37:18Speaker 2: let it marinate.
- 37:18Speaker 3: I love doing this Fursday, Thursday or Tuesday first look
- 37:21Speaker 3: and then kind of just bouncing ideas around in my head.
- 37:23Speaker 3: And then by Friday, when the injured news starts dropping,
- 37:26Speaker 3: then the thoughts start getting real spicy. I just enjoy
- 37:28Speaker 3: It's all part of the process. And to me, DFS
- 37:31Speaker 3: is a process thing, and you know, I enjoy that
- 37:33Speaker 3: process and it's part of the fun. To me, I
- 37:35Speaker 3: enjoy the process just as much as I enjoy sweating
- 37:38Speaker 3: the lineups.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Yeah, our guy, you know, Nick or was in here earlier,
- 37:42Speaker 1: Uncle Nick Big Nick said GoF much better at home.
- 37:45Speaker 1: But he's talked about this plenty of times over in
- 37:47Speaker 1: the community and in the discord about you know, if
- 37:49Speaker 1: you love the process sometimes more than even the sweat,
- 37:52Speaker 1: like when you get a real sweat, there's nothing better
- 37:54Speaker 1: than Okay, I'm in it now. I'm watching the final
- 37:56Speaker 1: five minutes of this game where it matters for a
- 37:58Speaker 1: six figure swing or whatever it might beefully in my favor,
- 38:00Speaker 1: our favor whoever's watching. My point being, you know, we
- 38:03Speaker 1: do spend a lot of time on this and this
- 38:05Speaker 1: is the fun in being able to go through it.
- 38:07Speaker 1: And I think Nick Guthrie brought up a good point too.
- 38:10Speaker 1: This was something we talked about plenty last week when
- 38:12Speaker 1: Bucky Irving was sort of the only guy, like I said,
- 38:14Speaker 1: was the most optimal I've ever seen anybody in the
- 38:17Speaker 1: Stone to be honest, because it's taking everything into consideration.
- 38:21Speaker 1: That's the benefit. The slate at hand. Last week did
- 38:24Speaker 1: not have a forty three hundred dollars Tyrone Tracy Junior
- 38:28Speaker 1: like the week beforehead It did not have all these
- 38:30Speaker 1: value options. So even though he was going to be
- 38:33Speaker 1: super popular, you kind of had to just get heavy
- 38:35Speaker 1: leverage on heaverage, as I've coined in the past, where
- 38:38Speaker 1: you just go overweight or do what you want to do.
- 38:40Speaker 1: We broke some of that down Monday, but this week
- 38:42Speaker 1: the pricing is up. We are going to be waiting
- 38:44Speaker 1: as the week goes on to see if we can
- 38:46Speaker 1: find value. And that's the fun in it. You kind
- 38:48Speaker 1: of know where we stand now as things starts to drop,
- 38:50Speaker 1: as news comes out, we go in and we sort
- 38:52Speaker 1: of break it all down from there. But it can
- 38:54Speaker 1: make it ugly if you don't have it, and it
- 38:56Speaker 1: really can benefit those that do put in the time,
- 38:58Speaker 1: put in the work to take in everything that we're
- 39:00Speaker 1: putting out and be able to put their thoughts to
- 39:02Speaker 1: it and their own process and be able to find
- 39:04Speaker 1: those winning lineups. So hopefully this helped. That's going to
- 39:06Speaker 1: do for this one. Guys hit the like make sure
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